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| david-lyle | r1chardj0n3s: thanks for running the meeting time poll | 00:01 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | my pleasure :) | 00:01 |
| david-lyle | For tomorrow, I'll stick with the currently scheduled time, but would like to close on future times. | 00:02 |
| david-lyle | knowing you won't be around for the meeting | 00:02 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, sounds good | 00:02 |
| david-lyle | Seems like Wed at 2000 UTC and pick a day at 1200 UTC | 00:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, sounds like it | 00:03 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks to ygbo filling in that blank :) | 00:03 |
| david-lyle | yes | 00:04 |
| david-lyle | ok, I'll respond to the mailing-list with the final result and update the wiki | 00:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks! | 00:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm looking forward to being in meetings in the future :) | 00:05 |
| david-lyle | do both times work for you moving forward? | 00:05 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the 2000 is 7am (6am non-daylight) which works, and 1200 is 11pm/10pm so I should be able to make at least one a week, if not both | 00:07 |
| david-lyle | well aren't we alternating weeks? | 00:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | er | 00:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | sorry, braino, yes | 00:08 |
| david-lyle | I don't have that much to talk about :) | 00:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | as long as you know what's going on ;) | 00:08 |
| david-lyle | was getting worried | 00:08 |
| r1chardj0n3s | so yeah, I should be able to make both :) | 00:09 |
| * david-lyle fills time with ramblings about policy and identity | 00:09 | |
| david-lyle | good | 00:09 |
| david-lyle | yeah 5am will be a little early for me on the one, but time to share some of the inconvenience | 00:09 |
| r1chardj0n3s | the policy stuff is interesting in the angular+REST space - my REST API WIP has included policy checks but I'm going to be removing them - they should be on the client and in the service APIs, not in the REST API layer | 00:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | 5am is yuck, yeah :/ | 00:10 |
| david-lyle | yeah, that should live on the client | 00:10 |
| r1chardj0n3s | thanks for accommodating! | 00:10 |
| david-lyle | I'm up by 5:30 anyway | 00:10 |
| david-lyle | no worries | 00:10 |
| david-lyle | may just need a Horizon API call to validate policy? | 00:11 |
| david-lyle | we don't really want to ship all the policy.json files to the client | 00:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yeah, not sure exactly how the policy stuff in the client will work - it will most likely need API support, but not sure how that'll work | 00:11 |
| r1chardj0n3s | like, we would probably want to be able to pull up a per-user policy definition from the API for the client to use | 00:11 |
| david-lyle | the check needs to happen on load, not on service API call | 00:11 |
| david-lyle | at that point it's too late | 00:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | but I'm not familiar enough with the policy stuff to know how feasible that is | 00:12 |
| david-lyle | unfortunately, that difficult with how the policy engine is built | 00:12 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep, not generating a bunch of service API auth rejections is a good thing | 00:12 |
| david-lyle | *that's | 00:12 |
| david-lyle | well it's pointless, because the APIs can do that | 00:12 |
| david-lyle | wonder if we could package multiple policy validations in one request to Horizon | 00:13 |
| r1chardj0n3s | that would be ideal, yeah | 00:13 |
| david-lyle | these are the rules we care about on the page, what's the result | 00:14 |
| david-lyle | that should be doable | 00:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yep | 00:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | cool | 00:14 |
| r1chardj0n3s | sorry, brb | 00:14 |
| david-lyle | no worries | 00:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Determine environment version based requirement files https://review.openstack.org/119842 | 02:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/136973 | 06:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Jones proposed openstack/horizon: POST instantiation for Django-Angular https://review.openstack.org/136556 | 07:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Jones proposed openstack/horizon: WIP angularize identity users. Restyled. Things left: 1. row delete 2. row disable https://review.openstack.org/133767 | 07:56 |
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| xiaozhi | I accessed through a browser horizon, appeared KeyError, how can I do | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/136973 | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/horizon: Remove password field when creating stack https://review.openstack.org/136990 | 08:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Ability to change modal form backdrop element behavior https://review.openstack.org/113206 | 09:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Support Instances->Disassociate IP action for Neutron setups https://review.openstack.org/136456 | 09:13 |
| MaxV | rdopiera: For the xstatic stuff cores are the same as the horizon team right? | 09:19 |
| pkarikh | gugl: ping | 09:23 |
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| rdopiera | MaxV: yes | 09:37 |
| MaxV | mrunge: can you check that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136806/ is okay for you so that I can update Horizon tests? | 09:38 |
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| mrunge | MaxV, done | 09:57 |
| MaxV | mrunge: thanks | 09:58 |
| mrunge | MaxV, you're welcome! | 09:58 |
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| tsufiev | does anyone know wha't happening with zuul? 2 approved patches here https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Vlad+Okhrimenko%22+status:open,n,z but no sign of them in http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 10:06 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, I got NOT_REGISTERED errors in validation tests | 10:07 |
| mrunge | I assume, zuul is broken. | 10:07 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, I thought repo split is underway, but judging by the ML, it's not started yet. Okay, then waiting for infra folks to fix the problem | 10:08 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, I didn't had the time for this | 10:08 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, and I would announce such a thing on the mailing list | 10:09 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, np, I just feared that I missed it ) | 10:09 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, there will be thanksgiving weekend most probably starting today. | 10:11 |
| tsufiev | mrunge, okay, got it | 10:13 |
| mrunge | tsufiev, we should thank someone, if the gate is fixed before next week, I guess | 10:14 |
| jpich | There's one non-US infra person, crossing fingers he's not on holiday this week too | 10:15 |
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| tsufiev | jpich, I'll try to reach him out | 10:21 |
| jpich | tsufiev: Thanks! It's definitely not just happening with Horizon :( | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcos Fermín Lobo proposed openstack/horizon: Allow metadata addition for image creation https://review.openstack.org/73527 | 10:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed openstack/horizon: Remove port_id from floating ip disassociate https://review.openstack.org/137023 | 11:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jiri Tomasek proposed openstack/horizon: Modal fixes - 2 columns, padding, header, membership https://review.openstack.org/113519 | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jiri Tomasek proposed openstack/horizon: Restyled sidebar to resemble UX guidelines https://review.openstack.org/126289 | 12:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/horizon: Stack update call needs password https://review.openstack.org/135914 | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tatiana Ovchinnikova proposed openstack/horizon: Orchestration Resource types panel https://review.openstack.org/134591 | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix the progress js https://review.openstack.org/136425 | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/horizon: Fix dashboard nav, when panelgroup empty https://review.openstack.org/133696 | 13:43 |
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| jtomasek | jpich, anyone: Hi, any suggestion how can I get the Jenkins tests passing here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113519/ | 14:01 |
| jpich | jtomasek: Looks like the patch somehow breaks our single Tempest dashboard test * looks * | 14:02 |
| jtomasek | jpich: oh, I see some test failure there with <h3>Log In</h3> string | 14:03 |
| jpich | jtomasek: It looks like a dumb test, does your patch changes a class name or something? http://logs.openstack.org/19/113519/22/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/9e45c54/console.html#_2014-11-25_12_50_54_323 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ladislav Smola proposed openstack/horizon: Stack update call needs password https://review.openstack.org/135914 | 14:04 |
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| jpich | Oh, no, it's the log in string itself that has somehow become missing? | 14:05 |
| drewfisher314 | jpich: just wanted to report back on my horizon juno issues on Solaris. I managed to get everything collected, compressed and packaged up very nicely. Thank you so much for your help | 14:05 |
| jpich | drewfisher314: Yay \o/ Glad it's resolved, was there any other tricks beside the collectstatic/compress stuff? | 14:06 |
| drewfisher314 | nope. that was the entire problem. | 14:07 |
| jtomasek | jpich: that h3 has class now, so it does not match the string in the test. | 14:07 |
| drewfisher314 | manage.py w/ django 1.4.11 might have a bug or two in it - i had to do some creative hacking on my side to get it to run against the package build area instead of the tarball | 14:07 |
| jtomasek | jpich: where do I fix it? here? https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest | 14:07 |
| jpich | jtomasek: Oh, I see. So if we replaced the string check with just "Log In" this should work both for the current codebase and for your patch? | 14:08 |
| jpich | jtomasek: Yep! https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_dashboard_basic_ops.py | 14:08 |
| jtomasek | jpich: yes | 14:08 |
| jpich | jtomasek: Feel free to add me as a reviewer when you posted the tempest patch | 14:08 |
| jtomasek | jpich: ok, I'll create patch | 14:08 |
| jtomasek | jpich: ok, thanks! | 14:08 |
| jpich | jtomasek: Great! Much simpler that way, if there's a way to make it work with both :) | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomáš Nová?ik proposed openstack/horizon: Add new directory structure for page objects https://review.openstack.org/106337 | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomáš Nová?ik proposed openstack/horizon: Integration tests - 3 new form fields https://review.openstack.org/133095 | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomáš Nová?ik proposed openstack/horizon: Add navigation among pages https://review.openstack.org/110425 | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomáš Nová?ik proposed openstack/horizon: Add TabbedFormRegion to Integration tests https://review.openstack.org/126478 | 14:09 |
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| robcresswell | jtomasek: Hey Jiri, you there? | 14:16 |
| robcresswell | jtomasek: Removed /opt/stack/horizon, restacked, pulled down patch and restarted server, still seeing the same issue | 14:17 |
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| jtomasek | robcresswell: hey | 14:23 |
| robcresswell | jtomasek: o/ | 14:23 |
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| jtomasek | robcresswell: that's strange, can anyone else test that please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126289/ | 14:25 |
| robcresswell | jtomasek: Mine has just ended up like this now http://i.imgur.com/KsXvgXj.png | 14:25 |
| jtomasek | robcresswell: screenshot would be nice | 14:25 |
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| jtomasek | robcresswell: hmm, that's not what it shoudl look like at all | 14:26 |
| jtomasek | robcresswell: I'll investigate | 14:26 |
| robcresswell | jtomasek: I've tried multiple browsers, so it isnt caching. Is there anywhere else compiled assets would be stored? | 14:26 |
| jtomasek | robcresswell: it seems the new side nav styling didnt get applied at all | 14:26 |
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| robcresswell | jtomasek: Sure, thanks. It looked fine on the previous patchset, I think I +1'd before, so I was surprised when it didn't work. | 14:26 |
| jtomasek | robcresswell: can you test patchset 11 now? | 14:27 |
| robcresswell | jtomasek: Yep, sure | 14:27 |
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| jpich | robcresswell: Are you working directly from /opt/stack/horizon by any chance? | 14:28 |
| jpich | robcresswell: I see the same result you do by default, but if I switch COMPRESS_OFFLINE to False in the local_settings.py then restart apache, it looks nice | 14:28 |
| robcresswell | jpich: Ah that may well be it. I'll check | 14:29 |
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| robcresswell | jpich: Yeah that fixed it. Thankyou. | 14:31 |
| jpich | robcresswell: Ah, cool! david-lyle_afk had a patch merged into devstack recently that changes the default compression | 14:32 |
| robcresswell | jtomasek: I'll remove the review, my mistake. Sorry :) | 14:32 |
| jtomasek | robcresswell: np at all, I am glad it got resolved | 14:32 |
| jpich | I wonder if we just threw another wrench into the difficulty of getting started contributing | 14:32 |
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| robcresswell | jpich: Ha, I just started contributing properly this cycle, lots to learn :) | 14:34 |
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| jpich | robcresswell: Exactly, if the new compression setting is adding another obstacle to new people contributing reviews, maybe we should reconsider. Well, that's just one for now I guess :) But we should keep an eye out on gerrit and IRC | 14:37 |
| tqtran | robcresswell: just curious, but how are you tesitng changes? git pull then restart apache? | 14:37 |
| tqtran | robcresswell: or are you running the django test server? | 14:37 |
| robcresswell | tqtran: Restarting apache at the moment. | 14:38 |
| robcresswell | tqtran: Followed by a thorough code review, of course... | 14:38 |
| tqtran | tqtran: i see, if you use the django test server via the run_scripts, it should pick up any locale changes w/o restarting apache | 14:38 |
| tqtran | tqtran: in fact, it might be easier for you to git clone a separate horizon in your home dir, then launch from there | 14:39 |
| tqtran | im talking to mself lol | 14:39 |
| robcresswell | tqtran: Ah, I'll look into doing it that way then. I dont think that should affect too many patches though. (Now worrying that all of my reviews are wrong...) | 14:40 |
| tqtran | that way, when you restack, it doesnt flush your local settings | 14:40 |
| jpich | There's plenty of ways to work around the issue which are obvious when you're already familiar with the project. But I think using /opt/stack/horizon is the first stop for many new contributors, which is fine | 14:40 |
| tqtran | agreed, i had the same issue when i started out | 14:40 |
| jpich | robcresswell: Nah, no worries about that! People who've been contributing for a while tend to have streamlined their process is all, it's still correct the way you do it | 14:41 |
| robcresswell | jpich: Gotcha. Thanks for the advice. | 14:41 |
| jpich | which happens to be the way I do it too, but I know how to work around most issues I meet by now so my opinion on whether it's easy or not doesn't really matter | 14:41 |
| jpich | robcresswell: You're welcome. Continue to not hesitate asking please :-) The amount of tribal knowledge in OpenStack is staggering | 14:42 |
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| tqtran | tribal knowledge, haha, why is it tribal? | 14:42 |
| tqtran | i dont get the reference | 14:43 |
| jpich | 'cause it's not written anywhere | 14:44 |
| robcresswell | tqtran: I think it tribal refers to groups of people with specific knowledge that others don't know about, because there's no docs. So the IBM guys may know how to do something one way, etc. | 14:44 |
| robcresswell | tqtran: I think that* | 14:44 |
| tqtran | i see, learn something new everyday =D | 14:45 |
| jpich | http://drbacchus.com/tribal-knowledge/ seems like a good reference, sorry for making assumptions! :) | 14:45 |
| tqtran | we should have a section on horizon guide that says "Tribal section" | 14:45 |
| jpich | Then it's not Tribal anymore ;) | 14:45 |
| tqtran | great article | 14:48 |
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| jpich | wuhg: Hi! I see on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109278/ that you were going to open a bug about the redirection test intermittently failing, would you have the bug # handy? | 15:04 |
| jpich | I can't find it | 15:05 |
| jpich | wuhg: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1396194 in the meantime, we can mark it as dup if you had already opened one | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed openstack/horizon: Implementation inline table editing for Users table https://review.openstack.org/122737 | 16:48 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, didn't have the time to ask about the 'horizon/contrib'. I remember this was discussed on summit, for non-integrated projects. Is it planned to appear in Kilo? | 17:02 |
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| jpich | Might need a blueprint for the concept to be fleshed out first? :-) | 17:03 |
| tsufiev | jpich, good point, as always :) | 17:03 |
| tsufiev | jpich, I guess I'll start this one | 17:04 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: yeah, I think a blueprint would be good to carry the discussion | 17:04 |
| david-lyle | I certainly think it needs a limited scope if we move forward with it | 17:05 |
| david-lyle | but testing/review/etc need to be worked out | 17:05 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, okay | 17:06 |
| david-lyle | tsufiev: thanks for getting it rolling | 17:06 |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, I have my own interesting in that - our work on Merlin/Mistral stuff needs to land somewhere :). I think that contrib/ place is a good fit for it | 17:07 |
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| rhagarty | clu_: are you actively working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1386764 ? | 17:26 |
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| clu_ | yes | 17:26 |
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| rhagarty | ok - just checking | 17:26 |
| clu_ | it didn't work on the tabbed table view - that fixed that too | 17:26 |
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| rhagarty | great | 17:27 |
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| mrunge | david-lyle, pong. | 17:55 |
| mrunge | I just saw my name flashing from the meeting. I assume this is due to the repo split? | 17:56 |
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| david-lyle | mrunge: yes | 17:58 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, sorry, my day has just 24 hrs :( | 17:59 |
| david-lyle | no worries, it was more in reference to naming of repos | 17:59 |
| mrunge | ah yes. | 17:59 |
| mrunge | it seems horizon should become renamed to horizon_lib | 18:00 |
| david-lyle | I was trying to recall something you said about not having packages where the primary module was named differently | 18:00 |
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| david-lyle | is that correct? | 18:00 |
| mrunge | regarding openstack-dashboard: | 18:00 |
| mrunge | we have different opinions here | 18:00 |
| mrunge | I strongly prefer not to name it horizon | 18:01 |
| mrunge | about packaging: i don't recall having said something like that. | 18:01 |
| jpich | What about ygbo's suggestion of having a python packaged named "horizon" that still install "openstack_dashboard"? It was quite popular on the list | 18:01 |
| mrunge | that'd be impossible for fedora e.g | 18:02 |
| jpich | His point was that it will also pull horizon_lib (which install "horizon") as a dependency so people won't break | 18:02 |
| jpich | Ok. That would be good to mention that in the thread, or maybe I missed it | 18:02 |
| mrunge | yes, but that's something we would solve via package dependencies | 18:02 |
| david-lyle | that's what I was referring, perhaps my terminology didn't line up | 18:02 |
| mrunge | when installing python-foo, I'd expect a python package named foo to be available | 18:03 |
| mrunge | I assume, this is true for debian as well | 18:03 |
| david-lyle | that was my point | 18:03 |
| mrunge | I still would prefer something like openstack_horizon | 18:04 |
| mrunge | thus we would have a recognizable name | 18:04 |
| mrunge | but it's different from before | 18:04 |
| mrunge | and it would be clearly defined | 18:04 |
| jpich | ygbo's plan got a lot of +1 on the list, it'd be good to add the packaging perspective, it might not be clear to everyone | 18:05 |
| david-lyle | so, essentially, there's no way to accomplish the split without breaking everyone using horizon currently | 18:05 |
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| jpich | if the naming cannot be resolved, Radomir suggested doing the split now and solving the renaming issue later | 18:05 |
| david-lyle | why not horizon and openstack_dashboard again? | 18:05 |
| jpich | which sounds good to make things move forward before k-1 | 18:05 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, when not using horizon and openstack_dashboard as package names, nobody would break | 18:05 |
| jpich | david-lyle: Only Horizon developers understand the difference, what we call the dashboard is "horizon" in people's eyes, marketing collaterals? | 18:06 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, you'd had all my +1s for horizon and openstack_dashboard (same as now) | 18:06 |
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| thiagop | clu_: Hi! I made that JS fix here -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79688/ | 18:07 |
| thiagop | clu_: can you put it on your list? | 18:07 |
| david-lyle | If I, as a deployer have a repo built on top of horizon now and you rename the modules, everywhere I reference the existing packages, I break | 18:07 |
| mrunge | david-lyle, not necessarily | 18:08 |
| david-lyle | mrunge: how so? | 18:08 |
| mrunge | because you would get older dependencies | 18:08 |
| clu_ | hey thiagop: sure! :) | 18:08 |
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| mrunge | or deps would be solved by providing older modules | 18:08 |
| mrunge | but nobody would break | 18:08 |
| mrunge | anyone requiring newer stuff would know about the rename | 18:09 |
| david-lyle | So, the primary was people extend horizon today (maybe transitioning with plugins, but not entirely) is have a copy of the horizon repo that I may or may not have changes in and a second repo that redefines the django app | 18:10 |
| david-lyle | all references in that second repo refer to horizon. or openstack_dashboard. | 18:11 |
| david-lyle | template paths that I override are horizon/ or openstack_dashboard/ | 18:11 |
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| david-lyle | it's not the hardest string replacement in the world, but why would we make them do it | 18:11 |
| david-lyle | *primary way | 18:12 |
| mrunge | when primarily copying to new modules, nobody would break at all | 18:12 |
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| mrunge | but I see your point, when naming that stuff like today, everything would be fine | 18:12 |
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| david-lyle | what's the argument against keeping the names? branding issues? | 18:17 |
| david-lyle | we'll still maintain the horizon repo | 18:17 |
| mrunge | the argument against keeping names was: | 18:17 |
| mrunge | people refer to horizon instead of openstack-dashboard | 18:17 |
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| mrunge | but I assume, people can be educated. | 18:17 |
| david-lyle | we can still use the name | 18:18 |
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| mrunge | of course | 18:18 |
| david-lyle | what does it matter what the repo is named? | 18:18 |
| mrunge | but functions differ | 18:18 |
| mrunge | that doesn't matter at all | 18:18 |
| mrunge | but I'd prefer to be clear | 18:18 |
| mrunge | I would try to rename repos to match packages | 18:18 |
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| mrunge | I mean package names | 18:19 |
| david-lyle | I guess I think the Horizon program still could manage the horizon, openstack_dashboard and django_openstack_auth repos | 18:21 |
| david-lyle | which part is the actual django app is not really a large concern naming wise, it's just legacy | 18:22 |
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| robcresswell | When writing out the conditions that enable or disable a table action (classes in */tables.py) is it better to have each as an individual (if X return false, if Y return false), or better to aggregate them? (if X or Y, return false) | 18:23 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell: I'm not sure there's one right answer | 18:26 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: I was afraid of that :) | 18:26 |
| david-lyle | I tend not to like "if x in None; return True" type logic but it is easier to digest as a whole | 18:26 |
| david-lyle | I imagine leaning toward readability over yucky in python is better | 18:27 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle: Okay, was just curious if we had any established process. Will stick to readable. Thanks. | 18:28 |
| david-lyle | but I'll probably still comment that the first is ugly | 18:28 |
| david-lyle | because it is | 18:28 |
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| david-lyle | doesn't mean it needs to be fixed | 18:28 |
| david-lyle | :) | 18:28 |
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| robcresswell | Another thing that comes up often is how we handle exception messages. Some are very basic, but I see a lot of bug posts asking for more information | 18:30 |
| robcresswell | Is there a set format? Something like "Error over here (error code)" might be more useful than some we currently have, although I guess not all api's throw back nice error codes. | 18:31 |
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| tqtran | r1chardj0n3s: ping | 18:31 |
| tqtran | r1chardj0n3s: should really change name to something easier to type.... | 18:31 |
| david-lyle | tqtran: type r, hit tab | 18:31 |
| robcresswell | tqtran: Just r1 then tabcomplete it :) | 18:31 |
| tqtran | :O | 18:32 |
| tqtran | omg.... | 18:32 |
| david-lyle | keep hitting tab until you get to the right r | 18:32 |
| david-lyle | or what robcresswell said | 18:32 |
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| tqtran | this entire time, i have been doing things the hard way | 18:32 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: I put some feedback on a bug about that | 18:33 |
| tzumainn | tqtran, you mean the 'classic' way | 18:33 |
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| robcresswell | david-lyle: Ah, where was that? | 18:33 |
| david-lyle | wonder which bug that was | 18:33 |
| tqtran | tzumainn: lol yes guess that makes me old and wise right? | 18:34 |
| tzumainn | exactly! | 18:35 |
| tzumainn | I bow to your wisdom, o great sage | 18:35 |
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| Piet | Does anyone recall whether there was a blueprint to improve the UX of the details panel? I've heard rumors, but can't seem to find documentation for it. | 18:36 |
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| david-lyle | robcresswell: I fail launchpad | 18:38 |
| david-lyle | robcresswell: I guess it was a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-error-message-details-for-usability | 18:39 |
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| tqtran | Piet: i think there is a bp for that | 18:49 |
| tqtran | Piet: if i remember, i think ana was working on it | 18:49 |
| woodm19791 | There's an app for that? | 18:49 |
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| woodm19791 | Piet: ana = Anna Kivrokopic | 18:49 |
| robcresswell | david-lyle: Sorry, went to find food. Thanks for the link. | 18:50 |
| tqtran | Piet: really? | 18:50 |
| tqtran | G_G me | 18:50 |
| tqtran | ok forget what i said to minh earlier | 18:50 |
| david-lyle | Piet: it is MIA, I found reviews with links to it, but they fail to link to a bp | 18:53 |
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| Piet | David: Thanks - the reason I ask is that we have some concepts for a Details panel redesign, but don't want to step on any toes | 18:54 |
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| david-lyle | I found the white whale: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/detail-pages-ia | 19:01 |
| david-lyle | Piet | 19:02 |
| david-lyle | ^ ^^ | 19:02 |
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| Piet | David - thanks | 19:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Cindy Lu proposed openstack/horizon: double check admin password when update user password https://review.openstack.org/136874 | 19:11 |
| clu_ | hi david-lyle: can you please assign me to this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/external-documentation | 19:16 |
| david-lyle | clu_: done | 19:17 |
| clu_ | thanks david-lyle! | 19:17 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | morning | 19:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hi tqtran | 19:30 |
| r1chardj0n3s | (my IRC client tab-completes names, makes long ones much easier ;) | 19:30 |
| tqtran | r1chardj0n3s: hey, yeah just learned about that recently | 19:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :) | 19:31 |
| tqtran | r1chardj0n3s: gimme a sec, on call | 19:31 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yup | 19:31 |
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| hurgleburgler | A new blueprint I'd love to own and use a basis for the themeing blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/bootstrap-html-standards | 23:51 |
| hurgleburgler | I'd love feedback about it | 23:51 |
| r1chardj0n3s | hurgleburgler: +1 for deviating as little as possible from bootstrap where possible :) | 23:54 |
| david-lyle | hurgleburgler: can I still hard code all the widths? | 23:55 |
| * david-lyle ducks | 23:56 | |
| r1chardj0n3s | wow, preach the controversy david-lyle | 23:56 |
| hurgleburgler | NOooooOOoo! | 23:56 |
| hurgleburgler | hehehe | 23:57 |
| david-lyle | standards, sheesh | 23:57 |
| r1chardj0n3s | in my day we had tables and no css and we were happy dammit (blinking happily oh yes) | 23:58 |
| david-lyle | and beveled borders | 23:58 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I so don't miss beveled borders | 23:58 |
| david-lyle | one word: 3D | 23:59 |
| hurgleburgler | No worries guys, I found this bootstrap theme this morning: http://contemporary-home-computing.org/1tb/wp-content/uploads/screenshot_460.png | 23:59 |
| r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 23:59 |
| david-lyle | ooh, +1 | 23:59 |
| hurgleburgler | LOL | 23:59 |
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