r1chardj0n3s | notmorgan: that's the keystone endpoint, where the catalog is retrieved from | 00:01 |
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notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: oh so uhm... | 00:01 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: ok phew | 00:01 |
notmorgan | that is not well documented fwiw | 00:01 |
r1chardj0n3s | notmorgan: please file bugs where documentation is not adequate! :-) | 00:01 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: i am working on sub-url mounting all the services and it kindof scared me to read that horizon expected a single endpoint for openstack | 00:02 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: hehe i'll add it to my massive list of "things that need fixing/updates" that will generate lots of bugs/code once i have things functioning | 00:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | notmorgan: yeah :-) | 00:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | notmorgan: since we spend so much time around things it's hard for us to know where the doc blindspots are | 00:03 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: can OPENSTACK_HOST be a URI or does it *have* to be a IP only? | 00:05 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: because the place you get the catlog from my demo is: https://api.tempusfrangit.org/identity/ | 00:05 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: keystone is never on "/" for the host it lives on | 00:05 |
r1chardj0n3s | notmorgan: OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_URL | 00:06 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: so i can just comment out OPENSTACK_HOST? because there are both things | 00:06 |
r1chardj0n3s | (I'm not sure whether OPENSTACK_HOST is used raw, sorry) | 00:06 |
notmorgan | ahhh maybe time to GREP | 00:06 |
notmorgan | :) | 00:07 |
* notmorgan goes looking | 00:07 | |
notmorgan | oh | 00:07 |
r1chardj0n3s | a quick look tells me it's not used | 00:07 |
notmorgan | hah | 00:07 |
notmorgan | it's just used in the default to %strsub into KEYSTONE_URL | 00:07 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: and now the harder question... does horizon handle V2/V3 auth discovery well or do i need to pick the version i want | 00:08 |
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notmorgan | in this case? | 00:08 |
* notmorgan is happy to just pick :) | 00:08 | |
r1chardj0n3s | notmorgan: it will work with both | 00:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | but you need to tell it | 00:08 |
notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: right but i need to specify the one it should use. | 00:08 |
r1chardj0n3s | OPENSTACK_API_VERSIONS | 00:08 |
notmorgan | yah, tells me we need to be better avout that and let it discover longer term | 00:09 |
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notmorgan | but meh for now, easy path :) | 00:09 |
notmorgan | thnx for the help! | 00:09 |
r1chardj0n3s | np! | 00:09 |
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notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: ok last "fun" question | 00:15 |
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notmorgan | r1chardj0n3s: is there a way to make horizon use --insecure (my CA is not trusted cause i'm using letsencrypt) | 00:15 |
notmorgan | found it | 00:16 |
notmorgan | nvm | 00:16 |
zao | Can't you install enough CA certs to cope? | 00:16 |
notmorgan | zao: you can. the issues are requests is a LOT less friendly in many cases. right now i'm just doing --insecure | 00:17 |
notmorgan | zao: this is a POC, the thought is: get it working | 00:17 |
notmorgan | zao: then spin up extra bits | 00:17 |
zao | Alright, didn't look at channel history. | 00:17 |
notmorgan | zao: :) | 00:17 |
notmorgan | zao: my POC is working on sub-url mounted services | 00:17 |
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notmorgan | zao: http://paste.openstack.org/show/480971/ [see my catalog, right now i just need to get nova <-> glance happy and i should have a working cloud] | 00:23 |
notmorgan | zao: and here is my massive-ish list of "wow this needs fixing" so far https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/suburl-mounted-services :) | 00:23 |
zao | Nifty. | 00:24 |
notmorgan | zao: yeah it almost all works atm | 00:25 |
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notmorgan | zao: the limitation is nova doesn't use the catalog to find glance yet | 00:25 |
notmorgan | but working w/ sdague to get that fixed and rolled up | 00:25 |
notmorgan | then we'll be in a good place. | 00:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Display user's description in user detail https://review.openstack.org/253287 | 00:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/horizon: Pagination for flavor - more link https://review.openstack.org/234638 | 01:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Modify the regular expression when you create Pseudo-folder. https://review.openstack.org/243625 | 01:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/horizon: Fix issue when using glance v2 api https://review.openstack.org/249531 | 02:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Jones proposed openstack/xstatic-angular-bootstrap: Update to use setuptools_scm for release version generation https://review.openstack.org/252752 | 02:34 |
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openstackgerrit | sanjana proposed openstack/horizon: Adding Ceilometer Alarm API https://review.openstack.org/215569 | 04:13 |
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openstackgerrit | sanjana proposed openstack/horizon: Adding ceilometer alarms page for -Addition -Deletion -Enabling and Disabling of alarms https://review.openstack.org/251644 | 04:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/253795 | 04:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Modify update user info from pencil icon in keystone v2 https://review.openstack.org/254011 | 05:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Jones proposed openstack/horizon: Fix Create Image angularjs code https://review.openstack.org/251670 | 05:26 |
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wdeclercq | ping robcresswell | 07:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Itxaka Serrano Garcia proposed openstack/horizon: Add Network Port selection to new instance launch https://review.openstack.org/253573 | 08:38 |
betherly | Morning! | 08:46 |
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openstackgerrit | lei zhang proposed openstack/horizon: Put py34 first in the env order of tox https://review.openstack.org/254108 | 10:13 |
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robcresswell | wdeclercq: o/ | 10:23 |
wdeclercq | robcresswell: Hi, I was wondering what you meant exactly about the wrapping in your comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205423/5/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/routers/templates/routers/ports/_setgateway.html Should I put every sentence in a separate <p>{% trans block or something? | 10:24 |
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robcresswell | wdeclercq: Actually, ignore that part of the comment. I was just referring to the line length wrapping | 10:28 |
robcresswell | wdeclercq: Just fix the typo and I think that patch is good to go iirc | 10:28 |
robcresswell | wdeclercq: Sorry for the nitpick | 10:28 |
wdeclercq | np :) | 10:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Wim De Clercq proposed openstack/horizon: Add a snat field to the setgatewayform for admin users. https://review.openstack.org/205423 | 10:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Itxaka Serrano Garcia proposed openstack/horizon: Add ID to security groups on launch instance https://review.openstack.org/254123 | 10:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Wim De Clercq proposed openstack/horizon: Add a snat field to the setgatewayform for admin users. https://review.openstack.org/205423 | 11:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Add identity v3 API filtering to users and projects tables https://review.openstack.org/252488 | 11:38 |
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robcresswell | lhcheng: You get a +2, you get a +2, you get a +2... its like oprah's review day | 11:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Add breadcrumbs on Volume Encryption Details https://review.openstack.org/254167 | 12:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: making integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253608 | 12:57 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Fight non pluggable _go_to_methods in an evil hacky way https://review.openstack.org/253652 | 12:58 |
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lhcheng | robcresswell: hah hopefully we get our open reviews under 300 by end of M | 13:02 |
lhcheng | http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/horizon-openreviews.html | 13:02 |
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robcresswell | "Longest waiting reviews (based on oldest rev without -1 or -2):" | 13:02 |
robcresswell | 470 days | 13:02 |
robcresswell | wow. | 13:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Wim De Clercq proposed openstack/horizon: Add a snat field to the setgatewayform for admin users. https://review.openstack.org/205423 | 13:04 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481009/ Stevedore idea. Working on a POC | 13:04 |
robcresswell | So we can just say "install X plugin" and drop the enabled files. | 13:05 |
lhcheng | robcresswell: nice! I wanted to that, but keeps on slipping on my priority. | 13:06 |
lhcheng | do we still need the plugin to drop the enabled files? can we discover it too? | 13:06 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: discover what sorry? | 13:07 |
robcresswell | The idea is that we can just do pip install magnum-ui etc and reboot and it will work. | 13:08 |
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lhcheng | oh.. I misunderstood the word "drop", I thought drop it in enabled dir. Just realized "drop" as in remove. :) | 13:09 |
robcresswell | Oh sorry, yes, remove. | 13:09 |
lhcheng | yup, that would be awesome. | 13:09 |
lhcheng | we also use stevedore to expose additional command in OSC | 13:09 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: I have a couple patches to overhaul the settings situation too... still need refining though. | 13:09 |
lhcheng | moving to this model is more consistent, and simple | 13:10 |
robcresswell | :D | 13:10 |
lhcheng | I think supporting this plugin model would be even a bigger win than doing angular :) | 13:11 |
lhcheng | I'll be happy to do the reviews for this. | 13:11 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Excellent :D It'll be a little while yet while I get it together and doc/test it. Will put up a POC when its working. | 13:11 |
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lhcheng | robcresswell: awesome :) | 13:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Do not use empty description fields https://review.openstack.org/250306 | 13:24 |
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tsufiev | lhcheng, robcresswell: cool link to the review stats! I've found there another almost ready integration test :) | 13:25 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Interesting that the number waiting on submitter is half | 13:26 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Means we likely have some olf ones to clean up? | 13:27 |
robcresswell | old* | 13:27 |
robcresswell | Some of those patches have been in Horizon longer than I have. | 13:27 |
lhcheng | robcresswell: yeah, we should this give one some love: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59658/ | 13:27 |
lhcheng | hah | 13:28 |
lhcheng | if we knock down the 10 oldest patch, our average review time should get better :P | 13:30 |
lhcheng | tsufiev: glad you found something useful there | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Try to avoid intermittent test_dashboard_help_redirection failure https://review.openstack.org/250839 | 13:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: security group not mandatory to create instance https://review.openstack.org/229835 | 13:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Display user's description in user detail https://review.openstack.org/253287 | 13:31 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Yeah. Thats a really interesting page, thanks for that. | 13:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make nav structure in plugin integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253652 | 13:43 |
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amotoki | Could someone make a comment on the mailing thread on dashboards for neutron subproject? There is no input from horizon side .... | 13:48 |
amotoki | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081050.html | 13:48 |
robcresswell | amotoki: Argh, knew I'd forgotten something. Replying now. | 13:49 |
openstackgerrit | Paul Karikh proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Add identity v3 API filtering to users and projects tables https://review.openstack.org/252488 | 13:49 |
robcresswell | amotoki: Sorry for the delay | 13:49 |
amotoki | robcresswell: thanks. I believe your input would be helpful. | 13:50 |
tsufiev | hmm, it seems someone finally disabled bot notifications here for new CRs upload/ rebases | 13:51 |
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tsufiev | a good decision, will decrease an amount of noise here | 13:51 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: There were new proposal messages just a few minutes ago | 13:51 |
robcresswell | "openstackgerrit> Paul Karikh proposed openstack/horizon:" etc | 13:52 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, ah, my bad. I haven't noticed sahara-dashboard message here because it's not horizon | 13:52 |
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tsufiev | yet I considered them to be the same changeset with Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make nav structure in plugin integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253652 because they fix the same thing | 13:53 |
tsufiev | the cognitive error :) | 13:53 |
robcresswell | amotoki: So all neutron plugins will live in a single repo? | 13:53 |
robcresswell | Like neutron-plugin-dashboards | 13:53 |
amotoki | robcresswell: honestly I am still wondering what is the best approach... | 13:54 |
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robcresswell | amotoki: What is the difference between b and c? | 13:54 |
amotoki | robcresswell: option (c) means that dashboard impl exists in 'dashboard' directory in each subproject. | 13:55 |
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amotoki | robcresswell: option (b) shares a repo for dashboards. | 13:56 |
robcresswell | Ahh, I See | 13:56 |
amotoki | robcresswell: I think the big difference is that dashboard code and other codes exist in a single repo or not. | 13:56 |
amotoki | robcresswell: as far as I investigated, it affects translation maintenance much (including the infra script). | 13:57 |
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robcresswell | amotoki: Yes, I've been looking into translation stuff. Currently the infra stuff uses run_tests, which I do not really like. | 13:58 |
robcresswell | May require some new scripts | 13:58 |
amotoki | robcresswell: most tox envs in horizon repo are a proxy to run_tests.sh. | 13:59 |
robcresswell | Becaue django expects translations at $APPPATH/locale, but infra expects $APPPATH/<project_name>/locale | 13:59 |
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robcresswell | :/ | 13:59 |
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amotoki | precisely, the infra script expsts $REPONAME/locale. | 14:00 |
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robcresswell | Puts us in a funny place. horizon-cisco-ui uses the traditional way, but I don't think Django will work with that. | 14:01 |
amotoki | django expects $APPPATH/locale/{django,djangojs}.pot. | 14:01 |
robcresswell | May have to override the middleware with some hackery. | 14:01 |
amotoki | yes, i see hroizon-cisco-ui has locale files in a deeper place. | 14:02 |
robcresswell | amotoki: Yeah, they are where infra expects | 14:02 |
robcresswell | I dont think django will work with that. | 14:02 |
amotoki | honestly, I would like to have a function in the infra script which handles django locale structure. | 14:03 |
robcresswell | There is a LOCALE_PATHS setting, but currently plugins dont have a good way to update settings. | 14:03 |
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robcresswell | amotoki: That would be nice. I was speaking earlier and they seemed to insist on run_tests | 14:04 |
robcresswell | I have no idea why | 14:04 |
robcresswell | It would be nicer to just use pybabel directly | 14:04 |
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amotoki | I will investigate more and can talk with Andreas about the approach. | 14:05 |
amotoki | perhaps a important thing to be considered is how we handle multiple django apps in a repo. | 14:06 |
amotoki | the other is how we handle $APPPATH which is different from a repo name. | 14:06 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make nav structure in plugin integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253652 | 14:07 |
robcresswell | amotoki: I was surprised that we don't just use the setup.cfg values. They specify paths, but the paths *must* match the repo name it seems. | 14:07 |
robcresswell | Makes the config a little redundant. | 14:07 |
robcresswell | amotoki: Currently there are 3 different scripts for django-related translations - horizon, d_o_a and magnum_ui | 14:08 |
robcresswell | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/scripts/propose_translation_update.sh#L137 | 14:08 |
amotoki | robcresswell: yeah... I was surprised too. | 14:08 |
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robcresswell | I think we will need to work with infra and make a generic propose_django_translation section. | 14:08 |
robcresswell | To cover horizon/d_o_a magnum etc. | 14:09 |
amotoki | due to this limitation, for example, python-novaclient has novaclient directory for python code and python-novaclient for locale :-( | 14:09 |
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amotoki | totally agree. | 14:09 |
robcresswell | amotoki: horizon-cisco-ui has horizon_cisco_ui and horizon-cisco-ui currently :( | 14:09 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make nav structure in plugin integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253652 | 14:10 |
amotoki | robcresswell: is there any convenient way to retrieve a pot file path in setup.cfg? | 14:11 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: making integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253608 | 14:12 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make nav structure in plugin integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253652 | 14:12 |
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robcresswell | amotoki: It's listed in a couple of the settings https://github.com/openstack/horizon-cisco-ui/blob/master/setup.cfg#L46 | 14:13 |
robcresswell | Ideally those config values would just be altered to 'locale', and drop the 'horizon-cisco-ui' part | 14:14 |
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amotoki | robcresswell: horizon-cisco-ui installs horizon_cisco_ui.cisco as django app. don't we need to place the locale file to horizon_cisco_ui.cisco.locale ? | 14:16 |
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robcresswell | amotoki: Er, yes I think you're right. | 14:18 |
robcresswell | Either way, current way is wrong. | 14:18 |
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amotoki | agree | 14:18 |
robcresswell | The other alternative is that when I finish my settings fixes, you can just append to LOCALE_PATHS | 14:18 |
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robcresswell | That would likely be easier. | 14:19 |
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amotoki | that would be easier, but the default path still looks important. | 14:26 |
robcresswell | LOCALE_PATHS is viewed before the default anyway | 14:27 |
robcresswell | amotoki: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/topics/i18n/translation/#how-django-discovers-translations | 14:27 |
robcresswell | All paths listed in LOCALE_PATHS in your settings file are searched for <language>/LC_MESSAGES/django.(po|mo) | 14:27 |
amotoki | yes. i am looking at the same page :) | 14:27 |
robcresswell | $APPPATH/locale/<language>/LC_MESSAGES/django.(po|mo) | 14:27 |
robcresswell | $PYTHONPATH/django/conf/locale/<language>/LC_MESSAGES/django.(po|mo) | 14:27 |
robcresswell | ah okay, sorry :) | 14:27 |
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doug-fish | amotoki: robcresswell - hi guys - I'm actually just starting to look at translatability for neutron-lbaas-dashboard ... and trying to catch up on your conversation ... are you saying that every plugin will need to have an entry in settings/local_settings in order to have translations found? | 14:29 |
amotoki | IMO, LOCALE_PATH are for deployers and distro packages. we can ask them to ensure LOCALE_PATHS is configirued, or provide working default locale paths. | 14:30 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: Either that, or convince infra to have some new scripts I think | 14:30 |
robcresswell | Or every plugin copies run_tests | 14:30 |
amotoki | doug-fish: the conversation originally started from dashboards for neutron subprojects http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081050.html | 14:31 |
robcresswell | Which I dislike. I dont even know why we use run_tests as it is when we have tox :p | 14:31 |
doug-fish | We are talking about problems with message discovery? or finding translations at runtime? | 14:31 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: finding translations for plugins | 14:31 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/topics/i18n/translation/#how-django-discovers-translations | 14:31 |
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robcresswell | Django expects different paths to infra's automation | 14:31 |
robcresswell | The best solution IMO would be to write a propose_django_translations job in the jenkins scripts | 14:33 |
robcresswell | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/scripts/propose_translation_update.sh#L137 | 14:34 |
robcresswell | Something that would work for propose_horizon and propose_magnum_ui I think. | 14:34 |
doug-fish | yeah, I can see that - to capture noise that is in the run_tests script like https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/run_tests.sh#L432 | 14:34 |
robcresswell | yep | 14:34 |
doug-fish | do you know of any special challenges for javascript translations? | 14:35 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: There is a note in the docs about JS specifically, so I imagine issues | 14:35 |
robcresswell | https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/topics/i18n/translation/#javascript-catalog-view | 14:35 |
robcresswell | tbh I'm pretty buried in settings/stevedore/ng-create-net atm so I don't have a great amount of time to look into this too, but its really key for this cycle. | 14:36 |
doug-fish | right - we have that working for Horizon itself, but not sure if plugins can successfully have translated javascript catalogs served | 14:36 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: I think the only extension that should currently work for translations is magnum_ui | 14:37 |
robcresswell | that has $APPPATH/locale | 14:37 |
robcresswell | but it also has a unique infra script, and duplicates all 600 lines of run_tests so I dont hold it up as a good example of a plugin atm. | 14:38 |
doug-fish | I think I saw it has its own custom infra code | 14:38 |
doug-fish | :-) | 14:38 |
robcresswell | The infra code we need also has to support multiple locale files in the same repo, like horizon/o_d | 14:39 |
doug-fish | I wonder if we should revisit that | 14:39 |
doug-fish | do we need multiple locale files? | 14:39 |
doug-fish | I mean - I know we need separate js/py but do we really need horizon/openstack_dashboard? | 14:40 |
robcresswell | for Horizon and openstack_dashboard? I don't actually know how they are served | 14:40 |
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doug-fish | I did at one time, but will have to look through it again to get it back into my head. :-\ | 14:40 |
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robcresswell | doug-fish: Would you/ anyone on your team have time to look into this and work with infra? | 14:41 |
doug-fish | You'd probably be stuck with getting me to work on this. :-) | 14:41 |
robcresswell | I don't have any minions unfortunately :( | 14:42 |
doug-fish | psh. I don't have minions. | 14:42 |
doug-fish | I spout off what I think should be done. Sometimes that works. | 14:43 |
robcresswell | haha | 14:43 |
amotoki | what can we say now as horizon side? $APPPATH/locale/<lang>/LC_MESSAGES/{django,djangojs}.po works both for python and JS? | 14:43 |
doug-fish | I had expected to be looking at this only for the lbaas plugin, sounds like I need to consider a bigger scope - things are quite right overall with our translation capture/runtime behavior, right? | 14:43 |
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doug-fish | s/are/aren't | 14:44 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: Yeah, we don't currently have a reliable structure for our plugins | 14:44 |
robcresswell | for using their translations | 14:44 |
amotoki | doug-fish: yeah. we need to consider it for our all plugins! | 14:44 |
robcresswell | first step would be to check magnum_ui does actually work too. At least then we can confirm that $APPPATH/locale is reliable. | 14:45 |
robcresswell | Then we need to prod infra in the right direction | 14:45 |
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doug-fish | I'll be spending time with it -- gotta run | 14:47 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: The reason for dual locale files is for single repos carrying different things. So, one repo may have a dashboard for one thing, and a bonus panel for another. | 14:47 |
robcresswell | doug-fish: Sure, thanks doug! | 14:47 |
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amotoki | doug-fish: ping | 15:21 |
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doug-fish | amotoki: hi | 15:21 |
amotoki | doug-fish: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244444, is it better to enable argularjs based lbaas dashboard by default now? | 15:21 |
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doug-fish | I think so ... as far as I can tell the python based code is a shell that shows some UI but doesn't actually interact with the v2 apis | 15:22 |
amotoki | doug-fish: I checked my env and the current LBaaS v2 python-based dashboard does not work | 15:22 |
amotoki | in launching a load balancer. | 15:22 |
doug-fish | right | 15:22 |
doug-fish | nor does it show existing v2 load balancers | 15:22 |
doug-fish | however, the angular based code does both of those things (at least, in review code does) | 15:22 |
amotoki | yes. it seems there is no need to support python-based one once the angularjs one is fully funcational. | 15:23 |
amotoki | okay, I will update it. | 15:24 |
doug-fish | great, thanks. | 15:24 |
doug-fish | amotoki: BTW, if you are able to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252871/ at the same time I think that would add a nice milestone: this provides the ability to create a v2 load balancer object | 15:25 |
doug-fish | no listeners, but a load balancer. | 15:25 |
amotoki | doug-fish: sure. hopefully tomorrow. | 15:26 |
doug-fish | amotoki: super, thanks! | 15:27 |
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robcresswell | lhcheng, tsufiev: Just wanted to mention https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252961/ again, since you both expressed interest before. | 16:03 |
lhcheng | robcresswell: I got stuck thinking of an alternative for the changes in local_settings.py | 16:05 |
lhcheng | wish there is better way to make the changes less painful for upgrade | 16:06 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, creating 1k of fake cinder volumes right now to evaluate performance gain :) | 16:08 |
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openstackgerrit | George Peristerakis proposed openstack/horizon: Display event stream in the instance audit tab https://review.openstack.org/188134 | 16:13 |
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robcresswell | tsufiev: Awesome! | 16:17 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Oslo config? | 16:17 |
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robcresswell | lhcheng: What is the 'panel_customization' setting? | 16:34 |
lhcheng | robcresswell: I meant changes on the template cache loader, wondering if there is a way to make the changes in setting file less painful for upgrade | 16:35 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Ah, sorry | 16:35 |
robcresswell | lhcheng: Unsure. We should've deprecated them beforehand I think. | 16:36 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, 2:05 (non-cached) vs 0:43 (cached) for 1k volumes, not bad | 16:38 |
robcresswell | \o/ | 16:38 |
lhcheng | robcresswell: yeah :( django 1.8 still support the old TEMPLATE setting, thinking if there some way we can make it less painful for upgrade (by having some extra code), and then deprecate it later. | 16:39 |
robcresswell | If someone uses the old setting, it'll just throw the dj1.8 deprecation warning wont it? | 16:39 |
lhcheng | robcresswell: yup | 16:39 |
robcresswell | well.. problem solved? :p | 16:40 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, I wonder, how much would be the gain if we switched to Jinja2 | 16:41 |
robcresswell | tsufiev: There are other possibities. We could reduce the number of includes on the data_tables etc. | 16:42 |
lhcheng | no, we're forcing the operators to change the settings. I am thinking if we should add a note on our Deployment section about this new setting to improve performance. And mark the setting as deprecated for now. Then in "O", switch the default setting to use CACHE_LOADER | 16:42 |
robcresswell | :/ | 16:43 |
tsufiev | robcresswell, IIUC, using cached loader should eliminate overhead for template inclusion, right? | 16:43 |
lhcheng | so in "M", the changes just go into the docs. | 16:43 |
robcresswell | We want to hold off on a ~60% reduction in load times, so that deployers don't have to alter a key name in their settings? | 16:43 |
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lhcheng | robcresswell: we'll still document it, if ops want the performance gain they'll update their settings. | 16:45 |
lhcheng | I'm thinking more from upgrade perspective. If you look at django, they didn't force user to change the settings. | 16:46 |
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robcresswell | lhcheng: I can just change the old setting if you want | 16:48 |
robcresswell | cached loader was added like... years ago | 16:48 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, IMO we should encourage using cached loader immediately | 16:53 |
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robcresswell | Sure thing. I'll just update the old settings. Tests running now. | 16:53 |
tsufiev | I guess we cannot do this in stable branches (it's a pity) | 16:53 |
robcresswell | Django still support the old TEMPLATE_* settings, so we can keep the old setting format and still use the loader | 16:54 |
tsufiev | lhcheng, can we ^^^? | 16:54 |
openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Add Cached loader for templates https://review.openstack.org/252961 | 16:56 |
openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Add Cached loader for templates https://review.openstack.org/252961 | 16:57 |
robcresswell | tsufiev, lhcheng ^ | 16:57 |
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lhcheng | robcresswell: oh you can do that?? :) | 17:04 |
lhcheng | nice! | 17:05 |
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robcresswell | :) | 17:08 |
lhcheng | sweet, thank you! | 17:08 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, will upgrade my +1 to +2 ASAP :) | 17:09 |
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robcresswell | Still waiting for david-lyle to give your core powers huh? :) | 17:10 |
tsufiev | yep | 17:10 |
robcresswell | thanks lhcheng | 17:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Lin Hua Cheng proposed openstack/horizon: Fixes heat templates hidden parameters are not loading problem https://review.openstack.org/150567 | 17:19 |
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robcresswell | ducttape_: ping. Wondered if you still had a large deployment to test something against :) | 18:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Lin Hua Cheng proposed openstack/horizon: Fixes heat templates hidden parameters are not loading problem https://review.openstack.org/254342 | 18:24 |
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openstackgerrit | David Lyle proposed openstack/horizon: Removing sahara specific exception ref https://review.openstack.org/254343 | 18:25 |
lhcheng_ | mfisch: ^^ fixes your annoying heat issue | 18:26 |
r1chardj0n3s | morning | 18:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Itxaka Serrano Garcia proposed openstack/horizon: Add Network Port selection to new instance launch https://review.openstack.org/253573 | 18:49 |
ducttape_ | robcresswell - have a review for me to check out? | 18:49 |
ducttape_ | and how big is big? | 18:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Add style to wrap pre tag https://review.openstack.org/250146 | 18:53 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, ducttape_: guys, please keep me posted about the results, regardless what you'll find | 18:53 |
tsufiev | 3 times is a rare gain :) | 18:54 |
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tsufiev | ducttape_, FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252961/ | 18:54 |
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robcresswell | ducttape_: Just looking for sheer numbers on tables basically | 18:57 |
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robcresswell | ducttape_: As tsufiev mention ^^ | 18:58 |
ducttape_ | ok, can do | 19:00 |
robcresswell | Awesome, thanks | 19:00 |
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r1chardj0n3s | the latest in the xstatic saga, infra spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253296/ and example migrated project https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252752/ would appreciate "you're crazy" comments as appropriate pls :-) | 19:09 |
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robcresswell | r1chardj0n3s: Legendary levels of patience, it seems | 19:28 |
robcresswell | Will look in the morning. | 19:28 |
robcresswell | :D | 19:28 |
r1chardj0n3s | we'll get there :-) | 19:28 |
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robcresswell | tqtran: responded to theme preview comments. I think you're missing the point of it | 19:35 |
robcresswell | Gotta step out for food. | 19:35 |
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tqtran | robcresswell: ok, will read | 19:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Paulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/horizon: Adding Identity NGProjects API https://review.openstack.org/208581 | 19:52 |
openstackgerrit | Paulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/horizon: Adding Identity NGProjects Panel https://review.openstack.org/199139 | 19:53 |
openstackgerrit | Paulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/horizon: Adding Identity NGProjects Create Action - Details https://review.openstack.org/215352 | 19:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Paulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/horizon: Adding NGProjects Create Action - Members https://review.openstack.org/245340 | 19:53 |
openstackgerrit | Paulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/horizon: Adding NGProjects Create Action - Quota https://review.openstack.org/252412 | 19:53 |
errolpais | Hey all, rajatvig, kyleolivo and I are planning to start development for the 'Create Key Pair' screen under the 'Launch Instance' work flow. We could use some reviews for the page design: https://openstack.invisionapp.com/d/main/#/console/5574142/119969778/preview Please take a look! | 19:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: Single Row Action button should appear as buttons https://review.openstack.org/243796 | 20:08 |
openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Add Action to delete multiple and single images to images panel https://review.openstack.org/217422 | 20:08 |
openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: Allow passing item in the actions directive https://review.openstack.org/254365 | 20:08 |
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rajatvig | tqtran_: have addressed a small set of concerns on the actions directive. addressing the prefix bit of the feedback next. have two ideas. will try to see how to create relevant patches | 20:09 |
tqtran_ | ok perfect, ping me when you have something up | 20:09 |
flwang | mrunge: ping, re https://review.openstack.org/246009 | 20:14 |
jasondotstar | howdy horizon team | 20:15 |
jasondotstar | I've got a qn re: defining use cases | 20:15 |
ducttape_ | robcresswell - that is about 50% faster | 20:16 |
ducttape_ | 400 items in a table view - 18 seconds, with robcresswell patch - 8 seconds | 20:17 |
ducttape_ | 8) | 20:17 |
jasondotstar | I'm looking for someone who may have helped to define the use cases for horizon. I'm in the process of establishing the openstack vahana project (a reignite of the openstack ios client) | 20:17 |
jasondotstar | and I'm thinking it could be helpful to talk to someone involved with the use case documentation for horizon. | 20:17 |
ducttape_ | jasondotstar - I think you might be good to talk w hurgleburgler1, about horizon supporting responsive design | 20:18 |
jasondotstar | ducttape_: +1 | 20:19 |
ducttape_ | or try the alternate horizon css themes and see where they are, for responsive support | 20:19 |
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ducttape_ | I think they partially support what you are looking for. you can argue about having a native ios client too, but responsive design seems like a good starting point | 20:19 |
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hurgleburgler1 | 'material' is much more responsive than 'default' , we're hoping to get much farther along on that front. | 20:20 |
hurgleburgler1 | We're making a lot of progress on this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/bootstrap-html-standards | 20:20 |
hurgleburgler1 | which will help out with the ground work needed | 20:20 |
hurgleburgler1 | As far as use cases go, #openstack-ux might be a good place to ask questions also | 20:21 |
jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: +1 | 20:21 |
hurgleburgler1 | the closer that we get to responsive + client side rendering, the easier it will be to eventually wrap horizon in cordova to support not just ios, but also android | 20:21 |
jasondotstar | we did think of talking to the ux team | 20:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Paulo Ewerton Gomes Fragoso proposed openstack/horizon: Adding hz-if-neutron-extensions directive https://review.openstack.org/252597 | 20:22 |
hurgleburgler1 | Its hard to know exactly what the current use cases are … we have to rely on surveys, which might not be entirely accurate | 20:22 |
jasondotstar | we're focused on native ios..... i could get into some of the brainstorming convos we've had around mobile web vs. native | 20:22 |
jasondotstar | but i won't eat up the channel with that.... right now, we just want someone to point us in the right direction regarding use case defining | 20:23 |
jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: re: survey reliance - +1 | 20:24 |
hurgleburgler1 | I'd reach out to ux about use cases | 20:25 |
hurgleburgler1 | there aren't may yet, as far as horizon goes | 20:25 |
hurgleburgler1 | probably even less if you are only going to support ios | 20:25 |
jasondotstar | we've heard about the Cordova effort, but I've yet to see how far that's progressed.... | 20:25 |
hurgleburgler1 | in horizon or in general? | 20:26 |
jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: +1 - thing is... we're not sure if an 'app' is the end goal - we are considering iOS framework(s) as the end-goal deliverable as well. | 20:27 |
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r1chardj0n3s | jasondotstar: frameworks for interfaces as a deliverable? | 20:28 |
jasondotstar | r1chardj0n3s: correct. we're thinking about that...... | 20:28 |
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rajatvig | tqtran_: https://review.openstack.org/254365 fixes the item issue. fixing the callback issue now. | 20:29 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make integration tests pluggable https://review.openstack.org/253608 | 20:29 |
tqtran_ | rajatvig: ok, will look a bit later today | 20:29 |
rajatvig | cool. | 20:30 |
jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: so we were thinking that it could be valuable to see what the horizon use cases are | 20:30 |
jasondotstar | b/c they could potentially be parallel to what the vahana use cases could be. | 20:30 |
jasondotstar | or at least give us a starting place :-) | 20:30 |
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r1chardj0n3s | jasondotstar: I just have to ask: why not do this in a cross-platform manner - the app doesn't have to be that fancy, and you'd get Android users on board too | 20:39 |
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r1chardj0n3s | jasondotstar: or, support the new work in Horizon to produce more client-side interfaces which are responsive | 20:40 |
Piet | Has everyone voted for the location of the Horizon/UX onsite? | 20:40 |
r1chardj0n3s | jasondotstar: I'd be very interested to know the thought process behind going full iOS-exclusive app | 20:40 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: how many responses you got? | 20:41 |
hurgleburgler1 | jasondotstar Piet might be able to provide some insight on those use cases too | 20:41 |
jasondotstar | well there are a couple reasons (in my mind): | 20:41 |
jasondotstar | 1- less wrapping this in Cordova (which could prove do negate this reason), the native apps have higher engagement numbers | 20:42 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: 20 responses | 20:43 |
jasondotstar | 2- Again, not knowing much about Cordova..... with the native iOS app we've direct access to device features | 20:43 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: that sounds pretty good | 20:43 |
jasondotstar | 3- and this is just a pure honestly play on what I prefer: I'm just not that interesting in doing mobile web (HTML/JS) work | 20:43 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: yep | 20:43 |
jasondotstar | s/interesting/interested | 20:44 |
jasondotstar | I'd like to explore running a dashboard app on tvOS | 20:44 |
hurgleburgler1 | The seemlessness of a Cordova app relies heavily on the app's ability to mock mobile experiences … which is getting easier and better every day | 20:44 |
Piet | jasondotstar: Are you working on a mobile app for Horizon? | 20:44 |
jasondotstar | notifications on the apple watch for alerts | 20:44 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: iOS in particular | 20:45 |
jasondotstar | Piet: yes. | 20:45 |
jasondotstar | iOS native as r1chardj0n3s says. | 20:45 |
r1chardj0n3s | jasondotstar: so this is an excuse to play with all the shiny things, got it :-) | 20:45 |
Piet | jasondotstar: Why iOS native? | 20:46 |
jasondotstar | r1chardj0n3s: you could say that. but I've been in CloudOps | 20:46 |
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jasondotstar | I'd love to see alerts on my watch for failures in my OpenStack deployment(s) | 20:46 |
Piet | One of the challenges is that we really don't understand the use cases around mobile | 20:47 |
jasondotstar | right!!! | 20:47 |
jasondotstar | Piet: +100 | 20:47 |
jasondotstar | that's why I'm here. | 20:47 |
jasondotstar | :-) | 20:47 |
Piet | :^) | 20:47 |
Piet | Would like to understand the use cases around the overview panel first | 20:48 |
jasondotstar | I did a lightning talk on this at the Tokyo Summit | 20:48 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: I'd say it'd be worth taking the results of the survey and contacting the highest-rated host location(s) and getting confirmation before the next horizon meeting this week | 20:48 |
Piet | Mobile or Dashboard design | 20:48 |
hurgleburgler1 | https://github.com/leecrossley/cordova-plugin-apple-watch | 20:49 |
Piet | OK to introduce bias and talk about results? | 20:49 |
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jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: looking.... | 20:49 |
jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: looks interesting | 20:50 |
Piet | Portland seems to be the winner | 20:50 |
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r1chardj0n3s | Piet: it'd be great to be able to get the venue and date nailed down this week, yeah | 20:50 |
Piet | Austin/San Antonio are a close second if you combine them | 20:51 |
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r1chardj0n3s | Piet: bleh :-) | 20:51 |
Piet | Oddly, some people voted for one and not the other | 20:51 |
r1chardj0n3s | we're gonna be stuck in Austin for the next summit ;-) | 20:51 |
hurgleburgler1 | I might be able to get to Portland! | 20:51 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: Which one is bleh? | 20:51 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: austin and san antonio ;-) | 20:51 |
jasondotstar | so is there a real Cordova effort atm? | 20:52 |
hurgleburgler1 | baby steps … We have to become responsive and then client side | 20:52 |
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hurgleburgler1 | well … client side effort is going on at the same time | 20:52 |
hurgleburgler1 | but nothing is in concrete yet | 20:52 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: Claire mentioned that we may be able to get a space in downtown Portland | 20:53 |
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r1chardj0n3s | Piet: ok, so that's where I was headed with the confirming with the venues that won the poll before the meeting | 20:53 |
jasondotstar | hurgleburgler1: where can i be a 'fl on the wall' ? | 20:53 |
jasondotstar | s/fl/fly | 20:53 |
jasondotstar | here? | 20:54 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: then we can just present the winning location in the meeting, hopefully, and save ourselves a bunch of waffle | 20:54 |
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Piet | r1chardj0n3s: Yeah, I kind of want to get started so the folks traveling can buy their tickets | 20:54 |
Piet | So, dates.... | 20:54 |
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Piet | Kind of a wash, but weeks of Feb 8th and 15th got the most votes | 20:57 |
hurgleburgler1 | jasondotstar likely here | 20:57 |
hurgleburgler1 | Feb 8th is better than Feb 15th! | 20:57 |
r1chardj0n3s | I cannot attend Feb 8th :-P | 20:58 |
Piet | Less than three votes between the highest and lowest | 20:58 |
hurgleburgler1 | Ah dang it, I can't on the 15th | 20:58 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: Feb 8th is is! ;^) | 20:58 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: :-P | 20:58 |
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Piet | r1chardj0n3s: 15th? | 20:59 |
jasondotstar | alright. | 21:00 |
jasondotstar | well, I'll poke the ux folks, see what the have for me | 21:00 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: I believe that the 15th might be better for David, as well | 21:00 |
r1chardj0n3s | Piet: yeah 15th or the week after are the only ones that work for me, sadly. I simply cannot leave the country on the 8th | 21:00 |
jasondotstar | but if either you have *any* interest in this effort, #openstack-vahana | 21:00 |
jasondotstar | plz join. | 21:00 |
hurgleburgler1 | what about the week after? | 21:00 |
Piet | jasondotstar: I am kind of the UX folks | 21:00 |
jasondotstar | oh.... | 21:00 |
jasondotstar | ok | 21:00 |
hurgleburgler1 | jasondotstar piet is ux ptl | 21:01 |
* jasondotstar salutes. | 21:01 | |
hurgleburgler1 | there are number of us that are ux cores also | 21:01 |
Piet | jasondotstar: Actually, there are about five UX cores in this channel | 21:01 |
matt-borland | :) | 21:01 |
r1chardj0n3s | hurgleburgler1: 15th or 22nd work, yes | 21:01 |
jasondotstar | Piet: +1 | 21:01 |
hurgleburgler1 | piet how were the votes for the 22nd? | 21:02 |
Piet | Feb 22 got the least votes | 21:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | interesting - I wonder why | 21:02 |
r1chardj0n3s | too far out for some maybe? | 21:03 |
hurgleburgler1 | maybe its more like a 3/4 cycle then | 21:03 |
Piet | But, again, the difference between top and bottom is 14 and 11 votes respectively | 21:03 |
Piet | r1chardj0n3s: hurgleburgler1 Yeah, my concern is pushing out too far and not being able to act of the stuff before the Summit | 21:05 |
r1chardj0n3s | yep | 21:05 |
hurgleburgler1 | yeah | 21:05 |
r1chardj0n3s | I gotta run, hopefully back in a bit | 21:05 |
Piet | jasondotstar: What did you need from me? | 21:05 |
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jasondotstar | Piet: so we are looking to put together some use cases | 21:08 |
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jasondotstar | as you said, we need to define them for a mobile client (or frameworks consumable by iOS interfaces) | 21:08 |
jasondotstar | so we wanted to get an idea of what use cases were out there | 21:09 |
jasondotstar | just to gain a starting place | 21:09 |
jasondotstar | also, we could use someone's help | 21:09 |
jasondotstar | obvs someone interested in the native iOS approach | 21:09 |
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jasondotstar | to also help us with the use case work as well. | 21:10 |
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Piet | It occured to me, as I was walking Bugs, that the use cases around mobile are kind of tied to use cases around the dashboard/overview | 21:13 |
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Piet | Years ago, the use case was that operators wanted good alerts rather than perform actions | 21:14 |
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jasondotstar | Piet: +1 | 21:14 |
Piet | Possibly some actions around resolving alerts, ie restart | 21:15 |
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robcresswell | tqtran_: Thanks Thai! I'll throw something together to make the nav nicer for ya | 21:16 |
tqtran_ | sweeeet! | 21:16 |
jasondotstar | Piet: +1. we're thinking along the same lines. | 21:17 |
robcresswell | Ah damn erics gone, but looks like he was able to repeat the tests tsufiev, dropped from 18 secs to 8 on 400 items | 21:17 |
jasondotstar | if the end goal is an app, it'd be more of a companion app to the fully featured web console | 21:17 |
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jasondotstar | so we agree that only a subset of actions would be available | 21:19 |
jasondotstar | Piet: ^^ | 21:19 |
Piet | jasondotstar: Kind of curious to hear how hurgleburgler responded when you said native app | 21:19 |
Piet | jasondotstar: very focused subset | 21:20 |
jasondotstar | the mention or the Cordova effort came up | 21:20 |
jasondotstar | s/or/of | 21:20 |
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hurgleburgler | Piet and I argue about the viability of mobile in Horizon :-D | 21:20 |
jasondotstar | so I wanted to know how far along this effort is b/c if most ppl are rallying around that, it might be difficult to drum up interest in a native iOS project... | 21:21 |
Piet | jasondotstar: One approach would be to run a survey to operators with a list of all possible tasks and assign them to web, tablet and moble | 21:21 |
jasondotstar | +1 | 21:21 |
jasondotstar | like that idea. | 21:21 |
robcresswell | I think basic responsiveness is one thing | 21:22 |
robcresswell | But in terms of mobile, there are way better uses of developer time right now :/ | 21:22 |
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hurgleburgler | Its important to note that general mobile use cases won't help to validate the importance writing an IOS specific app | 21:23 |
Piet | robcresswell: Thats kind of my impression. There are a ton of priorities for horizon that are a bit higher although I think the survey is a good thing. | 21:24 |
Piet | Checking out for a bit - back in an hour | 21:24 |
jasondotstar | perhaps we try for the survey | 21:27 |
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jasondotstar | what's the preferred method to set something like that up? CIVS? | 21:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Itxaka Serrano Garcia proposed openstack/horizon: Add ID to security groups on launch instance https://review.openstack.org/254123 | 21:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: Single Row Action button should appear as buttons https://review.openstack.org/243796 | 22:28 |
openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: Allow passing item in the actions directive https://review.openstack.org/254365 | 22:28 |
openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Add Action to delete multiple and single images to images panel https://review.openstack.org/217422 | 22:28 |
openstackgerrit | Rajat Vig proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Allow callback prefix for actions directive https://review.openstack.org/254415 | 22:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Kyle Olivo proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Adding multiple row actions for the Image table https://review.openstack.org/217964 | 23:32 |
openstackgerrit | Kyle Olivo proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Adding multiple row actions for the Image table https://review.openstack.org/217964 | 23:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Kyle Olivo proposed openstack/horizon: WIP: Adding multiple row actions for the Image table https://review.openstack.org/217964 | 23:41 |
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