kfox1111 | but it would be better to share the code properly rather then forking like that. | 00:00 |
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david-lyle | ideally all toolkit pieces would be separate from horizon, django stuff too | 00:00 |
kfox1111 | yeah. that would be nice. | 00:01 |
david-lyle | big lift though to get there | 00:01 |
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kfox1111 | yeah. I think doing just a bit of the angular stuff might not be too bad. the xstatic stuff makes that pretty seamless. | 00:01 |
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kfox1111 | I did hte same thing with the app-catalog-ui plugin. seperated the angular bits into app-catalog-common and pulled it back in with xstatic. wasn't very difficult. | 00:02 |
david-lyle | the tangling of our mess is more complete, I'm quite certain | 00:03 |
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kfox1111 | well, the magicsearch and table widgets are pretty standalone. I was able to seperate those for sure. :) | 00:03 |
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kfox1111 | might just start there and see what else is then easily seperable. | 00:04 |
david-lyle | kfox1111: probably. There is also pushback on soooooooo many xstatic packages | 00:04 |
david-lyle | seem creating 30+ packages for horizon is frowned upon by distros :) | 00:04 |
kfox1111 | yeah, I get that. | 00:04 |
kfox1111 | but forking the code between app-catalog and horizon is probably frowned apon by them more. :) | 00:05 |
kfox1111 | they really hate forks. :) | 00:05 |
david-lyle | what they don't know ... | 00:05 |
david-lyle | I agree | 00:05 |
kfox1111 | well, we can talk about it more at the summit. | 00:06 |
david-lyle | sure | 00:06 |
kfox1111 | Thanks. :) | 00:06 |
kfox1111 | oh. and dynamic xstatic too. :) | 00:06 |
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kfox1111 | tripped against that with the app-catalog-common xstatic package. | 00:07 |
r1chardj0n3s | more talking about xstatic at the summit! YES! | 00:07 |
kfox1111 | app-catalog-ui depends on app-catalog-common but there's no way to tell horizon to load the extra package. | 00:07 |
* kfox1111 chuckles | 00:07 | |
r1chardj0n3s | </sarcasm> | 00:07 |
kfox1111 | I fudged a workaround but only one plugin can do the workaround at a time. so really less then ideal. | 00:07 |
david-lyle | kfox1111: you and hurgleburgler should talk | 00:08 |
kfox1111 | k | 00:08 |
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hurgleburgler | :-O | 00:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Shan Guo proposed openstack/horizon: Refactor openstack_dashboard tabs.py code https://review.openstack.org/307533 | 01:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/django_openstack_auth: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/305177 | 03:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Implement Manage Attachments in Instances https://review.openstack.org/305479 | 03:58 |
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wangbo | :q | 05:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Fix doc build if git is absent https://review.openstack.org/305021 | 06:33 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/horizon: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/307602 | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Testing latest u-c https://review.openstack.org/303429 | 08:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcos Fermín Lobo proposed openstack/horizon: No hostname validation in launch instance angularjs panel https://review.openstack.org/244145 | 08:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Check that row is defined when wait cell status https://review.openstack.org/307667 | 09:20 |
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mrunge | robcresswell, good morning, I just checked in launchpad, don't we "release" there any more? | 09:27 |
mrunge | last "release" was mitaka-rc1? | 09:27 |
mrunge | with matching bugs and blueprints targeted there | 09:27 |
robcresswell | Oh, I may have overlooked updating something | 09:28 |
robcresswell | mrunge: It doesnt look like we've been adding milestones past RC for a long time | 09:29 |
robcresswell | Hmm, wait there is Liberty just no Mitaka | 09:30 |
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mrunge | robcresswell, it might be the case either david or I created that manually | 09:33 |
mrunge | not sure if we should continue that | 09:33 |
mrunge | is there a value in? | 09:34 |
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robcresswell | Currently the last listed release and download on LP is Liberty | 09:34 |
mrunge | yes, or does it just mean, everything depending on launchpad won't get any newer than liberty? | 09:35 |
robcresswell | We have tags and milestones for Newton for tracking | 09:35 |
robcresswell | for bugs/ bps etc | 09:35 |
robcresswell | But LP hasn't been used for releasing for a while now, I thought | 09:35 |
mrunge | milestones and releases are different | 09:36 |
mrunge | and a "release" will just inherit all milestones and will close then blueprints etc | 09:36 |
robcresswell | As I understood it, you define a milestone and release it whenever? | 09:36 |
mrunge | at the end, you're able to see what's implemented in a release | 09:37 |
mrunge | yes, that's acurate, iirc | 09:37 |
robcresswell | But yes, the last milestone listed for Mitaka was RC1 | 09:37 |
robcresswell | There is no 9.0.0 release | 09:38 |
robcresswell | mrunge: I'll ask david about it later. I think he should have done it at the end of Mitaka, but may have forgotten. Not entirely clear to me whose responsibility that is now. | 09:40 |
mrunge | robcresswell, at the end it falls back to your plate | 09:40 |
robcresswell | Yes :) | 09:41 |
robcresswell | I'll go ask in the release channel. | 09:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Yury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test remove protected image https://review.openstack.org/281235 | 09:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Use breadcrumb nav across Horizon https://review.openstack.org/284421 | 09:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Use breadcrumb nav across Horizon https://review.openstack.org/284421 | 09:55 |
openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Improve Source step volume selection in LI https://review.openstack.org/304140 | 09:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Yury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test remove protected image https://review.openstack.org/281235 | 10:05 |
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robcresswell | tsufiev: I can't recall if I linked you to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306769/ but it seems like the type of patch you may like :) | 10:25 |
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openstackgerrit | LIU Yulong proposed openstack/horizon: Add floating IP panel to admin dashboard https://review.openstack.org/143628 | 10:28 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Added tests for check RC files from API Access page https://review.openstack.org/268056 | 10:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Add test for volumes attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/275231 | 10:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/horizon: Remove redundant line to open login page https://review.openstack.org/306686 | 10:32 |
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tsufiev | robcresswell, sure, I do like it :) | 10:42 |
tsufiev | was going to look inside this week | 10:42 |
robcresswell | It flags some interesting results. Like the sidebar takes a weirdly long time to load; something like 200 - 400ms per request, even with caching. | 10:43 |
robcresswell | Same with tables; even very small tables have long render times. I think we need to reduce the logic in these templates. | 10:44 |
robcresswell | If we do that and also look into Jquery table polling, I think we could make scale handling in instances etc much more manageable. | 10:45 |
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tsufiev | yeah, that would be really nice | 10:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Provide integration test for managing a project's members https://review.openstack.org/168935 | 10:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Revert "Angular vs. Django Table Danger Button Inconsistency" https://review.openstack.org/307711 | 11:04 |
openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Revert "Angular vs. Django Table Danger Button Inconsistency" https://review.openstack.org/307711 | 11:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: [WIP] Glance images async upload https://review.openstack.org/230434 | 11:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcos Fermín Lobo proposed openstack/horizon: No hostname validation in launch instance angularjs panel https://review.openstack.org/244145 | 12:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Kenji Ishii proposed openstack/horizon: Remove unnecesarry files on Create Network https://review.openstack.org/307099 | 12:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Added test for check stacks creation and deletion functionality https://review.openstack.org/266368 | 12:51 |
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mflobo | hi all, do you know if there is a recent mistral demo video? What I found is from 2014 (mistral-0.1 version) | 13:13 |
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robcresswell | mflobo: Try #openstack-mistral | 13:24 |
robcresswell | :) | 13:25 |
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mflobo | yeah, sorry, I explained poorly, I was asking about mistral-ui demo for Horizon. I remember some video, but I can not find anything. Anyhow, I'll ask to #openstack-mistral too. Thanks | 13:27 |
openstackgerrit | Rob Cresswell proposed openstack/horizon: Fix incorrect breadcrumb on Admin > Details https://review.openstack.org/296964 | 13:30 |
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robcresswell | mflobo: I'm not aware of any I'm afraid | 13:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Yury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test for flavor metadata update https://review.openstack.org/293860 | 13:33 |
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tsufiev | mflobo, did you mean Mistral Workbook Builder UI demo? | 13:45 |
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mflobo | I guess that is the fullname :) | 13:45 |
tsufiev | mflobo, the repo is at https://github.com/openstack/merlin/tree/master/extensions/mistral but I don't think anybody is currently working on it | 13:46 |
tsufiev | I was driving it mostly, but the project didn't get enough traction to continue investing time into it | 13:47 |
mflobo | tsufiev, any reason? | 13:47 |
mflobo | I see | 13:47 |
mflobo | os, I guess there is no official mistral-ui, right? | 13:48 |
tsufiev | mflobo, https://github.com/openstack/mistral-dashboard | 13:48 |
openstackgerrit | Yury Tregubov proposed openstack/horizon: Added test for flavor metadata update https://review.openstack.org/293860 | 13:48 |
mflobo | tsufiev, oh, great, thanks | 13:49 |
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robcresswell | mrunge: The release time has spoken! No need for any formal "release" on LP. So we can just use the milestones for our internal tracking. | 13:51 |
robcresswell | Mainly because its useful to build a priorities list. | 13:51 |
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mrunge | robcresswell, ack, thanks for clarifying that | 14:24 |
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lcastell | morning all o/ | 14:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Eric Peterson proposed openstack/horizon: Add router L3 agent info to info page https://review.openstack.org/306619 | 14:48 |
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robcresswell | morning | 14:52 |
openstackgerrit | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/horizon: No lock required for reading secret key https://review.openstack.org/307859 | 14:56 |
openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Integration test for New Launch Instance wizard https://review.openstack.org/297277 | 14:57 |
lcastell | in case you have some spare time :-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304693/ any feedback is welcome | 15:00 |
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tsufiev | lcastell, it's a highly competitive area (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/horizon-integration-tests-coverage+status:open) :) | 15:05 |
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mrunge | robcresswell, may I ask you over to #openstack-meeting-3? Stable meeting? | 15:07 |
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lcastell | yeah tsufiev :-), and it looks like there's still plenty of work to do there | 15:08 |
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ducttape_ | something is messed up with my collect static etc. getting no css love, even after removing all my pyc files, re-run collect static.... did I miss a memo ? :\ | 15:09 |
mrunge | ducttape_, maybe you need to remove py[oc] files? | 15:10 |
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robcresswell | mrunge: I joined | 15:13 |
mrunge | thank you robcresswell | 15:13 |
mrunge | it will be at the end of the meeting though | 15:14 |
mrunge | I'll ping you then again | 15:14 |
ducttape_ | thanks mrunge, I had some minor diffs with local_settings and now stuff works for me.... I can't explain what was going on, but it works now ;) | 15:14 |
mrunge | ducttape_, glad you solved it | 15:14 |
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* mrunge doesn't like if something just changes status without understanding "why" | 15:15 | |
ducttape_ | me too, I don't like not being able to explain it ;) | 15:16 |
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ducttape_ | mrunge: it seems to occur when I switch my cache to be django.core.cache.backends.memcached.MemcachedCache, instead of the default... just switching that causes my issue | 15:18 |
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ducttape_ | david-lyle: don't you use memcached for work ? | 15:20 |
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ducttape_ | hmm, memcached restart fixed it. whatever | 15:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/horizon: Make configurable the default date range used on Overview panel https://review.openstack.org/238204 | 15:30 |
openstackgerrit | Sergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Attach test logs individually for each test https://review.openstack.org/307880 | 15:31 |
openstackgerrit | Sergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Attach test logs individually for each test https://review.openstack.org/307880 | 15:32 |
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tsufiev | https://twitter.com/stelian/status/720913927639560194 OMGWTFLOL | 15:38 |
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mrunge | tsufiev, *evil grin*, did you ever work for a government? | 15:40 |
mrunge | tsufiev, I totally get, it's not your UI | 15:40 |
mrunge | but, I've seen comparable stuff in governmental apps | 15:41 |
ankur-gupta-f1 | tsufiev: pure evil whoever did those | 15:41 |
tsufiev | mrunge, nope, I didn't | 15:42 |
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tsufiev | comments are especially funny | 15:43 |
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ediardo | I wonder if they used loop to populate that or entered each option line by line | 16:02 |
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ducttape_ | robcresswell - something perhaps for next meeting or summit talk - horizon uses limits for a lot of usage information pages. It would be nice to move to quotas. Limits are like a grizzly approximation for what quotas provide. The code for this is kind of a mess, not sure who would care about this stuff. | 16:07 |
david-lyle | ducttape_: with microversions the extensions part went away in nova correct? | 16:07 |
ducttape_ | quotas are new hotness, and we don't really use them. (new hotness being something like 3 or 4 years old) | 16:07 |
david-lyle | the reason we moved before was that quotas was an optional extension | 16:08 |
ducttape_ | I'm not sure, but I know hp moved back to using limits for public cloud for horizon | 16:08 |
david-lyle | I believe you did most of that work :P | 16:08 |
ducttape_ | but that seems like less of a concern at this point | 16:08 |
ducttape_ | yes, which is part of why I hate it with the fire of 1000 suns | 16:08 |
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ducttape_ | anywho, it's a mess, and doesn't really provide everything we need at least | 16:09 |
ducttape_ | I'm not looking forward to the vision quest which is re-writting this stuff | 16:09 |
david-lyle | ducttape_: sure, we have to start fighting microversions anyway | 16:10 |
david-lyle | I don't think openstack wants a UI TBH | 16:10 |
ducttape_ | do you have more background on that ? | 16:10 |
david-lyle | microversions? | 16:10 |
ducttape_ | yeah | 16:10 |
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david-lyle | parts of the API are supported in particular microversions | 16:11 |
david-lyle | the fun part is that breaking backward compatibility is OK in microversions | 16:11 |
ducttape_ | I've also seen the discussion on where openstack releases were completely independent pieces etc... not sure openstack wants any collection of software that works | 16:11 |
david-lyle | so version 1.2.3 may work, but 1.2.4 may not | 16:11 |
david-lyle | so your choice is to know this a call 1.2.3 for certain calls and 1.2.4 for others | 16:12 |
david-lyle | ducttape_: you've hit it on the head | 16:12 |
ducttape_ | this rates pretty high on my list of terrible ideas | 16:12 |
david-lyle | the kit mentality is lazy | 16:12 |
david-lyle | and pushes all the hard work on you | 16:12 |
ducttape_ | clearly the people with this idea have never tried to use / deploy openstack | 16:12 |
david-lyle | :) | 16:13 |
sjmc7 | we’re also struggling with the same thing :) | 16:13 |
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sjmc7 | as, presumably, will any service that interacts with another | 16:13 |
ducttape_ | this is kind of the point of creating an api layer, to have something you could depend upon | 16:14 |
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david-lyle | depend is a strong word, maybe have strong superstitions about ? | 16:14 |
ducttape_ | if I wanted software stack that may or may not work, I'm not sure why have QA / gate jobs..... why have reviews..... why do any of the work to enforce any level of quality | 16:16 |
ducttape_ | it's like subjective art | 16:16 |
ducttape_ | anywho, I'm going to pretend like this idea doesn't exist on start looking at the don quixote task of rewriting quotas | 16:17 |
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david-lyle | well it maintains devstack, and that's all you really need | 16:17 |
david-lyle | :( | 16:18 |
ducttape_ | devstack might be the worst thing that ever happened to openstack, because it gives a place where you can hire developers in complete isolation | 16:18 |
* ducttape_ is in a dark place atm | 16:19 | |
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openstackgerrit | Juan Pablo lopez Gutierrez proposed openstack/horizon: Security group add/delete rules integration tests https://review.openstack.org/306526 | 16:22 |
david-lyle | ducttape_: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/086459.html re:microversions | 16:22 |
ducttape_ | thanks for cheering me up ;) | 16:23 |
david-lyle | happy to share the joy where I can | 16:24 |
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robcresswell | david-lyle, ducttape_: Did Nova adopt semver without actually using semver? | 16:31 |
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david-lyle | robcresswell: they don't use semver for microversions | 16:31 |
robcresswell | Just a thing that looks like it | 16:32 |
robcresswell | "more complicated from development | 16:32 |
robcresswell | perspective which leads to slow down the evolution of API changes." | 16:32 |
ducttape_ | poor them | 16:32 |
robcresswell | Sounds like openstack :D | 16:32 |
ducttape_ | yes, if only developers could break everything more quickly - that is really what is needed | 16:33 |
ducttape_ | :P | 16:33 |
robcresswell | haha this is a strange thread. I don't know much about Novas versioning, but it looks like a semver structure without any of the semver guarantees | 16:33 |
david-lyle | ducttape_: you should really know what version to pin all your API calls to | 16:33 |
david-lyle | doesn't everyone? | 16:34 |
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ducttape_ | so we have 15 openstack projects, and I need to coordinate all their interdependancies on what apis they need | 16:34 |
david-lyle | ducttape_: who else would do it ? | 16:35 |
david-lyle | :( | 16:35 |
ducttape_ | and we don't want developers to be burdened with this type of work | 16:35 |
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david-lyle | ducttape_: again, it's just a kit, if you're crazy enough, you can build a cloud | 16:36 |
david-lyle | that should be the new mission statement | 16:36 |
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robcresswell | We need an openstack-grumpy irc channel. | 16:36 |
* robcresswell ducks | 16:37 | |
ducttape_ | we already have that, it's the operators channel robcresswell | 16:37 |
robcresswell | ah, makes sense | 16:37 |
ducttape_ | this room is the land of sunshine, puppy dogs, and ice cream | 16:37 |
robcresswell | :( | 16:38 |
med_ | #openstack-grumpy? I thought that was called "#openstack" or "#openstack-dev" | 16:39 |
ducttape_ | robcresswell - don't be sad, this is normal give and take. developers come up with half baked idea, and others push back on it. it's normal ;) | 16:39 |
* med_ needs the "it's just a kit" with an openstack logo at the top and legos at the bottom shirt.... | 16:40 | |
david-lyle | med_ sign me up for one | 16:42 |
ducttape_ | I think I found nova! http://www.wearethepractitioners.com/images/default-source/blog-content-images/lego-mess.jpg It's in there, keep looking! | 16:42 |
david-lyle | LOL | 16:43 |
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med_ | oh that's definitely nova. | 16:46 |
med_ | mostly in the big green "bin" | 16:46 |
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tsufiev | judging by completely unrelated py27/py34 and selenium-headless failures at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307667/ we're broken again by some external dependency | 17:11 |
tsufiev | does anyone know the details? | 17:12 |
itxaka | looks like novclient? novaclient.v2 import volume_snapshots as vol_snaps | 17:14 |
tsufiev | yeah, seems so | 17:14 |
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itxaka | woah | 17:15 |
itxaka | ,python-novaclient==4.0.0 | 17:15 |
itxaka | I got 3.4.0 locally | 17:15 |
itxaka | on requirements: python-novaclient!=2.33.0,>=2.29.0 # Apache-2.0 | 17:15 |
david-lyle | yeah https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/tree/4.0.0/novaclient/v2 | 17:16 |
david-lyle | removed volume_snapshots | 17:16 |
* tsufiev filing a bug | 17:16 | |
tsufiev | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1572246 | 17:17 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1572246 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "Horizon gate is blocked after python-novaclient==4.0.0 release" [Critical,New] | 17:17 |
itxaka | tsufiev++ | 17:17 |
david-lyle | tsufiev: are you on this, or do you want me to? | 17:17 |
tsufiev | david-lyle, I don't mind if someone takes this | 17:18 |
tsufiev | had other plans for the evening :) | 17:18 |
david-lyle | tsufiev: just didn't want to step on your toes :) | 17:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: Images tables uses action promises https://review.openstack.org/291846 | 17:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergei Chipiga proposed openstack/horizon: Attach test logs individually for each test https://review.openstack.org/307880 | 18:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Borland proposed openstack/horizon: Move magic-search bar out of the smart-table structure https://review.openstack.org/297291 | 18:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Ankur proposed openstack/horizon: Implement Manage Attachments in Instances https://review.openstack.org/305479 | 19:01 |
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openstackgerrit | David Lyle proposed openstack/horizon: Fix tests broken by novaclient 4.0.0 release https://review.openstack.org/308025 | 20:39 |
david-lyle | That should fix the check and gate runs ^^^^^^^^^^^ | 20:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Diana Whitten proposed openstack/horizon: Many dropdown actions are white text on white background https://review.openstack.org/308074 | 23:37 |
r1chardj0n3s | welp. someone has committed something to Horizon master that's broken the swift ui action buttons :/ | 23:40 |
r1chardj0n3s | rendering is broken. onclick is broken. | 23:41 |
r1chardj0n3s | \o/ | 23:41 |
david-lyle_ | yay testing | 23:41 |
r1chardj0n3s | I think someone's disabled the click-through protection... | 23:41 |
r1chardj0n3s | (also) | 23:41 |
david-lyle_ | r1chardj0n3s: it was a good run | 23:42 |
r1chardj0n3s | ya | 23:42 |
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