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| AJaeger | Morning Daisy, | 07:50 |
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| Daisy | Hi, here | 07:51 |
| Daisy | Hello, AJaeger | 07:51 |
| Daisy | Thank you for ping me. | 07:51 |
| Daisy | I tried to find you in openstack-infra channel, I didn't find your ID. | 07:51 |
| AJaeger | I was offline | 07:51 |
| AJaeger | Let me check the backspace character... | 07:51 |
| Daisy | I guess, the backspace character may be in the translation memory, just a guess. | 07:52 |
| Daisy | I tried to search it, but I didn't find. | 07:52 |
| AJaeger | I can't find it either. | 07:53 |
| AJaeger | Let me check whether somebody else fixed it - I'm downloading the files now manually... | 07:53 |
| Daisy | oh. OK I find them. | 07:54 |
| AJaeger | still a problem ;( | 07:55 |
| AJaeger | But I can't find it in zanata, let me check again | 07:55 |
| Daisy | I find them. :) | 07:55 |
| Daisy | And, I got the translator ID. | 07:55 |
| Daisy | I sent him email this morning. Not sure if he noticed it. | 07:56 |
| Daisy | Do you need me to delete these backspace characters ? | 07:56 |
| Daisy | I will check if the TM is bad or good. | 07:57 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, I just download the po file locally and found the problems. | 07:58 |
| AJaeger | Shall I paste here the broken source strings? | 07:58 |
| AJaeger | Or shall I fix it myself? | 07:58 |
| Daisy | I search them using the translator editor. | 07:58 |
| Daisy | Let me show you if the source strings are same with your results. | 07:59 |
| Daisy | `Bugs: Telemetry v3 (gnocchi) <https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi>`__ | 07:59 |
| Daisy | `Bugs: Workflow service (mistral) <https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral>`__ | 07:59 |
| Daisy | manila-scheduler daemon | 07:59 |
| Daisy | ``trove-conductor`` service | 07:59 |
| Daisy | I found 17 errors. | 08:00 |
| Daisy | Did you find the same ? | 08:00 |
| Daisy | The count of source strings are 17, which have bad translations. That is what I searched in the translation editor. | 08:01 |
| AJaeger | Daisy, http://paste.openstack.org/show/480861/ | 08:01 |
| AJaeger | yes, looks like the same | 08:01 |
| Daisy | ok | 08:01 |
| AJaeger | I didn't count ;) | 08:01 |
| Daisy | I will fix them in the web editor. | 08:02 |
| AJaeger | Yes, we need those to be deleted - otherwise we will not have an import at all. | 08:02 |
| AJaeger | The Zanata-cli errors out if it finds invalid characters | 08:02 |
| Daisy | I have fixed the problems. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | Then I will contact with that translator. | 08:03 |
| * AJaeger downloads to double check | 08:04 | |
| AJaeger | Daisy: everything looks fine now, thanks! | 08:05 |
| Daisy | :) | 08:05 |
| Daisy | Nice. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | The only thing left is to let that translator know about this error. | 08:05 |
| amotoki | hey! btw, preparing zanata.xml is not very easy. don't we add zanata.xml to repositories? | 08:06 |
| Daisy | I only know his email, and I have to contact with him through email. | 08:06 |
| amotoki | Daisy: we need to collect this kind of translation errors. | 08:07 |
| AJaeger | you can use create-zanata from project-config repo | 08:08 |
| Daisy | Yes. Do you want to use wiki or use Etherpad ? | 08:08 |
| amotoki | Daisy: I wonder where is good. wiki, i18n repo, etherpad... | 08:08 |
| Daisy | I'm curious about how the character is inserted. :) | 08:08 |
| Daisy | I mean, the backspace character. | 08:08 |
| amotoki | I noted some points when I fixed warnigs in japanese translation last week (though it is written in Japanese now) | 08:08 |
| Daisy | I need to talk with that translator. | 08:08 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I suggest to use wiki at first, and then move to document after some days. | 08:09 |
| Daisy | using wiki, we could change it frenquently. | 08:09 |
| amotoki | Very tricky point in Japanese translation in RST is that we need a whitespace just between closing RST markup (like ``) and next Japanese character (multibyte). | 08:10 |
| amotoki | otherwise we got "WARNING: Inline interpreted text or phrase reference start-string without end-string." | 08:10 |
| amotoki | I think there are such tricks in each language. | 08:11 |
| AJaeger | amotoki: Ah, that's where those come from. I wondered already... | 08:11 |
| amotoki | Daisy: agree with wiki as a start. | 08:11 |
| AJaeger | amotoki: you can also download a zanata.xml from translate.openstack.org, it's good enough for *downloading* content | 08:11 |
| Daisy | ok. amotoki I will create a wiki page now. | 08:12 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: ah.. thanks. I wasn't aware of it. | 08:12 |
| AJaeger | amotoki: https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/openstack-manuals/stable-liberty/documents | 08:12 |
| amotoki | AJaeger: honestly I used project-config scripts, but I felt it is complicated to normal coordinators. | 08:12 |
| AJaeger | and then on the far right the "..." - more actions | 08:13 |
| amotoki | I finally found out the download link :-) | 08:15 |
| amotoki | it is for download only and it seems I need to move PO files manually | 08:16 |
| amotoki | Daisy: FYI/ our current translaiton guideline and glossary https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ja/convention | 08:20 |
| amotoki | and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ja/glossary | 08:20 |
| Daisy | Ok. Thank you, amotoki | 08:20 |
| amotoki | I think you can see some by using chrome auto translation :) | 08:20 |
| amotoki | you will see many notes which describes contexts or backgrounds. | 08:21 |
| Daisy | amotoki: you copied from chrome auto translation ? | 08:27 |
| amotoki | Daisy: no :-) | 08:27 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I cannot find out which are usin chrome auto translation. | 08:27 |
| Daisy | using | 08:27 |
| Daisy | give me more hints. :) | 08:28 |
| amotoki | Daisy: I think chrome browser tries to translate a page if a language is different from yours. | 08:28 |
| amotoki | Daisy: I sometimes use it to check horizon translations with russian, polish, espanol... | 08:28 |
| Daisy | oh. I am just thinking how to read your pages, because they are in Japanese. Let me try chrome translation. | 08:29 |
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| amotoki | Daisy: I usually see a translation pop-up at the top of a page, but it seems not to work on wiki.openstack.org. | 08:37 |
| amotoki | Daisy: instead, if you click the right button you will see drop-down menu in your page. | 08:37 |
| amotoki | Daisy: I see a menu like "Tranalate into Japanese" in the menu list. | 08:38 |
| Daisy | ok | 08:39 |
| Daisy | I didn't see that menu. So it might because I didn't install a plug in ? | 08:40 |
| Daisy | oh. I didn't use Chrome. :) | 08:40 |
| Daisy | I'm using Firefox. Let me change to Chrome. | 08:40 |
| Daisy | I see it. Thank you. amotoki . | 08:42 |
| amotoki | Daisy: no problem. good to hear that! | 08:42 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Tox tests are broken at the moment. From openstack-infra we are working to fix them. Please don't approve changes until we notify that tox tests work again. | 09:31 | |
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