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| Daisy | terriyu: ping | 02:04 |
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| terriyu | Daisy: hi, are you around? | 06:00 |
| Daisy | terriyu: Yes, I'm. | 06:09 |
| terriyu | Hi Daisy | 06:09 |
| Daisy | terriyu: is it late for you now ? | 06:09 |
| terriyu | I'm up late today | 06:09 |
| terriyu | it's fine, we can talk | 06:09 |
| Daisy | ok. Thank you for keeping late. | 06:10 |
| terriyu | no problem, I stay up late sometimes | 06:10 |
| terriyu | I got Devstack running on a VM and I was able to change translations on the Horizon dashboard | 06:10 |
| terriyu | then I was reading through the Ansible scripts | 06:10 |
| Daisy | Great. | 06:10 |
| terriyu | I don't know Ansible, but I got the general idea of what each task was supposed to do | 06:11 |
| Daisy | I think the next step is to use Openstack infra scripts to run DevStack and set up VM. | 06:11 |
| Daisy | Sorry I may not make sense. | 06:11 |
| terriyu | oh ok | 06:11 |
| terriyu | no, that makes sense | 06:12 |
| terriyu | so I should look at | 06:12 |
| terriyu | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/ | 06:12 |
| terriyu | ? | 06:12 |
| Daisy | I mean, finally, our VM should be provisioned and all the software need to be set up by automation tools, for example, OpenStack, Zanata client. | 06:12 |
| Daisy | Yes, that is what I'm talking about. | 06:12 |
| Daisy | I have studied how to set up Zanata client by Puppet. | 06:13 |
| terriyu | but the first step is to setup Devstack | 06:13 |
| Daisy | I know how to set up Zanata client by Puppet now. | 06:13 |
| Daisy | Yes. | 06:13 |
| Daisy | We should set up Devstack, use Devstack to set up OpenStack, install Zanata. | 06:13 |
| Daisy | And then, we need to use daily jobs to pull translations. | 06:13 |
| terriyu | to setup Zanata, do you install the transifex-client pip package? | 06:13 |
| Daisy | No, I don't use transifex. | 06:13 |
| terriyu | oh ok, I thought the Ansible script used transifex | 06:14 |
| amotoki | I think you need to look at devstack-gate. It is just a wrappper of devstack which configures various configuration patterns of testing | 06:14 |
| terriyu | ok, understood | 06:14 |
| amotoki | and collect various logs after devstack & tempest run. | 06:14 |
| Daisy | Ansible scripts are using Transifex. We will change them to use Zanata command. | 06:14 |
| terriyu | I haven't looked at devstack-gate yet | 06:14 |
| terriyu | hi amotoki | 06:15 |
| terriyu | I'm helping Daisy with the translation check website | 06:15 |
| Daisy | terriyu: I will create some repo in github to share codes between us. When I'm done, I will let you know. | 06:15 |
| amotoki | terriyu: hi | 06:15 |
| amotoki | yeah, I know. | 06:15 |
| Daisy | amotoki is the author of Ansible scripts. | 06:15 |
| terriyu | thanks for sharing your Ansible scripts, amotoki | 06:16 |
| Daisy | So terriyu: you study how to set up Devstack with automation tools. I study how to change amotoki's script to pull translations from Zanata. | 06:16 |
| terriyu | It was helpful to get an idea of how the translations work | 06:16 |
| terriyu | Daisy: okay, sounds like a good plan | 06:17 |
| Daisy | and I will create repo to share codes between us. | 06:17 |
| terriyu | Daisy: so basically I should study the devstack-gate code ? | 06:17 |
| Daisy | I think so. | 06:17 |
| Daisy | terriyu: according to Elizabeth's email, I think so. | 06:17 |
| terriyu | Daisy: I will double check with pleia2 | 06:18 |
| Daisy | That's great, terriyu . | 06:18 |
| Daisy | Do you have close connect with her ? | 06:18 |
| amotoki | I wonder how will be our machine lifecycle. | 06:18 |
| terriyu | I have her email | 06:18 |
| terriyu | We chatted once on IRC | 06:19 |
| Daisy | OK. I believe she will help. | 06:19 |
| terriyu | She's my mentor for the scholarship, so she wil definitely help | 06:19 |
| Daisy | great, terriyu . | 06:19 |
| terriyu | Daisy: anything else you can think of, that we should discuss? | 06:19 |
| Daisy | No, terriyu . I very appreciate your help. | 06:20 |
| terriyu | Daisy: thanks for helping me, too | 06:20 |
| terriyu | Daisy: have a good day | 06:20 |
| Daisy | Keep contact. Talk to you next time. Have a good sleep. | 06:20 |
| amotoki | terriyu: good night. If you have qustions, let me or daisy know. | 06:21 |
| Daisy | thank you, amotoki . :) | 06:21 |
| amotoki | Daisy: btw, do you have a chance to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262545/? | 06:21 |
| Daisy | let me see. | 06:22 |
| Daisy | I don't follow up with it. Thank you for the reminder, amotoki . I will take a look. | 06:23 |
| amotoki | And this is WIP patch to improve the related scripts. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266565/ | 06:23 |
| Daisy | btw, amotoki , I read every word carefully in the emails between Doug and you. I will see how to respect the reviews you made in the previous IBM translations. | 06:25 |
| Daisy | I began to understand why you want to use Gerrit to review glossaries and translations. | 06:26 |
| amotoki | Daisy: regarding IBM translation import, I wonder how we can improve the process and collaborate with. | 06:26 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I have an idea. I want to get your inputs. | 06:27 |
| amotoki | Daisy: most teams have no human resources, so it is important to share guidelines within a language. | 06:27 |
| amotoki | if we work on various conventions first, we need to spend more reosources for reviews. It is not productive. | 06:27 |
| amotoki | Daisy: anyway your input would be appreciated :) | 06:28 |
| Daisy | amotoki: reviews made in Zanata are not easy to collect, because they are dispersed in every single translations. It's hard to collect them together and make them useful for further translations. Comments in Gerrit is easier to collect and read. | 06:29 |
| pleia2 | terriyu: I'm only around for a moment, but I did want to mention that you don't want to use Ansible, the scripts you looked at might have, but that was just one deployment, we use puppet | 06:30 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I wonder if it is possible to ask Doug to upload their translations to our i18n repo. We review them by Gerrit. When we said it's ok to merge, we have some robots to merge them. | 06:30 |
| terriyu | pleia2: Yes, I know that. The Ansible scripts are "inspiration". | 06:31 |
| amotoki | Daisy: yeah... but we decided to use Zanata for reviews.... | 06:31 |
| pleia2 | terriyu: ok good :) | 06:31 |
| Daisy | amotoki: in that way, Doug's contributions are calculated as codes contributions, not as translations. | 06:31 |
| amotoki | Daisy: honestly speaking, I believe I don't have time to review them in this release (katomo might have enough time though) | 06:32 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I don't like to make branches. Last time the merge of two branches by accident scared me. I don't want that happened again. | 06:32 |
| amotoki | Daisy: as I mentioned in the mail, we can merge server translations from IBM as-is without reviews. | 06:33 |
| amotoki | Daisy: personally I would like to discuss guidelines (in Japanese) in Nxx cycle and update translations in Nxx cycle | 06:33 |
| amotoki | rather than discussing individual details. | 06:34 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I have had a lot of translations in translate.openstack.org. I don't know if to. many branches might break Zanata | 06:34 |
| Daisy | Sorry, we have had a lot of translations in translate.openstack.org. I don't know if too many branches might break Zanata | 06:34 |
| Daisy | amotoki: ok. Get your point. I think the server translations are OK too. | 06:35 |
| amotoki | Daisy: I am okay with any way as long as it does not override existing translations. | 06:35 |
| Daisy | amotoki: anyway, the reviews you made to the previous IBM batch translations should be respected. I will talk with Zanata team to see if there is easy way to read those review comments. | 06:36 |
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| amotoki | Daisy: date-based search seems not to work :-( | 06:44 |
| amotoki | Daisy: I tried "last-modified-after:2015-09-22" but "Approved" is also included in "modified".... | 06:45 |
| Daisy | let me try. | 06:46 |
| Daisy | which project did you made a lot of comments ? Nova ? | 06:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Harshada Mangesh Kakad proposed openstack/i18n: Replace deprecated library function os.popen() with subprocess https://review.openstack.org/267718 | 17:20 |
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