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| jpich | ianychoi: I'm merging the Korean translation into stable/ocata now \o/ \o/ \o/ Thank you :D | 09:46 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, it's my pleasure :) | 09:47 |
| ianychoi | jpich, I have not asked to rsimai yet... | 09:47 |
| jpich | ianychoi: I think eumel8 did the original translation | 09:48 |
| ianychoi | rsimai, jpich is triplo-ui i18n liaison, and she said that the ratio of German translation in troplo-ui has been decreased. Would you translate triplo-ui with German translators inclduing eumel8 and other German translators? | 09:49 |
| ianychoi | jpich, yep but I would like to talk with language coordinator first - it would be the best and right way for better communication :) | 09:49 |
| jpich | Understood! :) | 09:50 |
| jpich | https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/tripleo-ui/stable-ocata | 09:50 |
| jpich | rsimai: Tripleo-ui is low on the priority dashboard so if there is just no time for stable/ocata this time around, I understand. With the help of ianychoi I wanted to give a notification before the language is removed :) | 09:51 |
| jpich | ianychoi: Do you think it would be possible to merge Japanese and Chinese into master now? There shouldn't be new strings now | 09:52 |
| ianychoi | jpich, it would be possible but merge applies to all the languages from a version to another version | 09:52 |
| jpich | ianychoi: Oh, I didn't realise that. That's fine I think, I didn't want to create extra work for languages less than 100% :) | 09:53 |
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| rsimai | ianychoi, jpich: good day! | 10:24 |
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| rsimai | I guess we've indeed neglected triplo-ui a bit, probably it's not too much used ... | 10:24 |
| rsimai | let me have aa look ... | 10:25 |
| jpich | Hello! It is a new project, only i18ned since Ocata | 10:25 |
| jpich | so although eumel8 kindly translated into german to 100%, we found multiple i18n bugs/missing strings and the ratio dropped to ~41% | 10:26 |
| rsimai | huh, can't see it in ocata at all .. | 10:28 |
| rsimai | reality is, there are not so many German translators. I can send a heads-up but not sure if there's strong interest ... | 10:29 |
| jpich | https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/tripleo-ui/stable-ocata/languages/de ? | 10:30 |
| jpich | It wasn't on the priority dashboard at all for Ocata though if that's where you're looking | 10:30 |
| rsimai | right, something wrong with my zanata :-) | 10:30 |
| jpich | It's totally fair if you would prefer not to worry about it for the last cycle, I wanted to give a heads-up before the language gets removed in stable/ocata :) | 10:31 |
| jpich | I'd appreciate if you let people know anyway since there isn't a huge amount of strings, but if that doesn't happen it's ok | 10:31 |
| rsimai | so I can offer to send it to the team but I wouldn't promise. I have no time atm. What is the deadline? | 10:31 |
| rsimai | until when would that need to be completed to avoid the language drops? | 10:33 |
| jpich | I was going to remove support for obsolete languages at the end of the week but I could postpone to early next week? In any case if the translations are done later, the translation bot will propose the language again so it's ok, the support will also be added back :) | 10:34 |
| jpich | Also if people are interested I posted a screenshot with the current German translations a few weeks ago :) http://i.imgur.com/nr40qTX.png | 10:34 |
| rsimai | I see. I'll send a heads-up and I guess then it's safe you continue with the remove by end of week. | 10:35 |
| jpich | Thanks so much! I appreciate you spreading the message :) | 10:35 |
| jpich | And special thanks to eumel8 as well for the initial translation, we were very happy to see it land!! | 10:35 |
| jpich | Thanks rsimai | 10:39 |
| rsimai | will mention eumel8 and your thanks :-) | 10:39 |
| jpich | Appreciate :) | 10:46 |
| jpich | * I appreciate it :) | 10:46 |
| rsimai | jpich: mail sent, thanks for the heads-up ;-) | 10:47 |
| jpich | rsimai: Yay, thank you! | 10:47 |
| jpich | robcresswell: I think I remember you (?) saying during the PTG that backports with string changes were never allowed in Horizon. Do you happen to know if this is documented somewhere in the i18n or horizon docs? I thought it'd be mentioned under https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#appropriate-fixes but it isn't at the moment | 11:03 |
| jpich | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103279.html is also interesting although it didn't really reach a clear conclusion | 11:04 |
| robcresswell | They used to not be allowed under stable policy iirc | 11:04 |
| robcresswell | lemme look | 11:04 |
| jpich | I recall the same, with exceptions possible if notifying the i18n list but I can't find a doc of some sort to share with my team | 11:04 |
| robcresswell | Maybe it got updated away | 11:05 |
| jpich | :') | 11:05 |
| robcresswell | It's definitely been a policy for a long time | 11:05 |
| jpich | Maybe it was only in a wiki somewhere. I can't figure out where else to look | 11:05 |
| robcresswell | :( | 11:05 |
| robcresswell | Sorry jpich | 11:05 |
| jpich | No worries, thank you for looking robcresswell! | 11:06 |
| jpich | ianychoi: For now if I tell my team to consider *extremely* carefully and to notify the i18n team, do you think that be sufficient? | 11:09 |
| jpich | I'm going to try to add something to the stable branch guide too, get the conversation started again somewhere where the conclusion can be stored | 11:10 |
| jpich | s/stored/recorded/ | 11:10 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, as I18n PTL, I welcome all feedback and I do my best to help from the feedback. But as robcresswell said, OpenStack teams take care of releases with relevant plan. I truly now understand that tripleo-ui follows cycle-trailing as we discussed during PTG, but please also understand that it depends on the different nature and resources from different language team. From my perspective with official status with German, rsimai kindly does his | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | effort on OpenStack translation contribution. | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | jpich, so please don't lower your voice but welcome feedback from translators :) | 14:01 |
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| jpich | Absolutely, thanks ianychoi | 14:02 |
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| jpich | I'm grateful for the original German translations, it's too bad if it can't work out this time (and our own fault in tripleo-ui). I hope next cycle we can include all the of the translators' work :) | 14:07 |
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