Sunday, 2017-04-09

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ianychoieumel8, oh are u online now?13:07
eumel8yes, take a loook what's going on :)13:08
ianychoiThanks...13:08
ianychoiI may need to open time slot survey for preparing Boston Summit13:09
eumel8yes. I've just finished german glossar translation and awaiting next task :)13:12
ianychoieumel8, glossary translation? You created more on glossary words for German?13:13
eumel8Glossary, yes. it's nearly 100% done13:15
ianychoiAha I see. Submitting a patch to openstack/i18n repository is a good idea I think.13:16
ianychoi(I am not still sure.. Someone thinks that glossary translation is related to common in openstack-manuals)13:16
eumel8Yes, it's in common. And we have this problem with sort. In German it's another alphabetical order then in English. So it's need a review.13:17
ianychoiYep.. I have heard it from rsimai13:17
ianychoiBut technically addressing it seems difficult now13:18
eumel8I tried to understand the mechanism of the build process. Somewhere is this sphing thing running and that's responsible for sort.13:19
eumel8you have the same problems in kr?13:19
ianychoieumel8, yep.. but hope that new Babel 2.4.1 would solve it :)13:20
ianychoieumel8, just Sphinx parses glossary documentation according to the current order - this is what I understood13:21
ianychoiI have sent an e-mail to you13:21
eumel8ah, ok13:22
eumel8that's also my experience. Source strings needs some additional flags for the correct sort order in other languages13:23
ianychoiYep... To change it, I think it would be much nice if someone would contribute to Sphinx to support such functionalities13:24
eumel8it's the timezone in Doodle my time or yours?13:25
ianychoiAha.. it is based on UTC13:27
eumel8ok, then I have to adjust...13:31
ianychoiYep.. thanks do you wanna add more timezone?13:32
eumel8finished13:33
eumel8no thanks, it's difficult enough ;)13:33
eumel8some tools have this online correction of timezones. that's I'm asking13:34
eumel8Friday we have Public Holiday13:35
ianychoieumel8, yep I forgot adding timezone information :) In here, I prefer to mention UTC :)13:35
ianychoiWow.. which holiday? Specific to German or EU?13:35
eumel8Easter. A thing from a man called Jesus. He was gone and later he came back. That's the reason that we don't have to work on 2 days every year ;)13:38
eumel8https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter13:38
eumel8but as I can see, you have some nice other public holidays: https://www.timeanddate.de/feiertage/suedkorea/13:40
ianychoiAha.. I see :) It would not be a holiday at least in Korea :(13:41
ianychoiKorea is one of countries which have less number of holidays..13:42
eumel8but you have Buddha's birthday and Day of the childs. Much better then old religios colored holidays.13:45
ianychoiWow.. yes. That's true but I think I will be in Boston :)13:46
ianychoithis year13:46
eumel8you have to celebrate there. You need some flags or flowers? ;-)13:48
ianychoiI booked my flight from Korea to Boston on Apr 27th for several reasons - I want to attend to Boston Upstream training on May 6-7 without jat lag 2) May 9 is Korea new president election day and May 4-5 are the date for whom not to stay in Korea and by April 30th is the date for vote for Korean who physicall stays abroad.13:48
ianychoiThis flight is the only way for me to make my vote for the next president :)13:49
ianychoiBuddha's day is something traditional with Buddha + Children day is not related to nationality - flag is not needed13:50
eumel8a pity13:50
ianychoiFor flowers, there is some special flowers for Buddha but I am not too much interested.. and I do not have my children :)13:50
ianychoiAnyway.. haha13:51
ianychoiI am happy that I would stay longer in Boston :)13:51
eumel8haha, and: who's your favorite president? ;)13:51
ianychoiHaha.. recently, previous Korean president was impeached13:51
ianychoiNow it is a kind of hot potato.. :)13:52
eumel8:)13:52
ianychoiI am observing and seeing who would be the best next president.. and I really want to present my one vote :)13:52
eumel8we have the same (since ages): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel13:54
eumel8and we have also election this year13:54
eumel8I think in Sep13:54
ianychoiAha.. Merkel13:55
ianychoiBy the way, I want to ask again: when will you come to Boston?13:55
ianychoiI think you will leave from Boston on Friday morning13:55
eumel8Friday evening13:56
eumel8and arriving Tuesday evening13:56
eumel8but late13:56
eumel8where are you stay there?13:57
ianychoiAha.. let me see13:58
ianychoiBoston Park Plaza  during May 7-1213:59
ianychoiBefore that... I would stay at Hi-hostel Boston - which is so cheap haha13:59
ianychoiwith some travel14:00
eumel8I know. Just wondering that not so many people blame the prices in Boston.14:01
ianychoiAccommodation is so expensive in Boston.. how about you? Near to Summit place?14:02
eumel8directly14:02
eumel8at the end it was the same price then other hotels somewhere outside.14:03
eumel8I don't know so much about Boston.14:03
ianychoiAha.. I see14:04
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ianychoiI don't know too much but when I searched accommodations, the daily price was at least around ~200 USD, however during PTG, it was aroung ~130-150 USD14:05
eumel8A saw in Atlanta something around 60~90 USD. 200 is too much.14:08
ianychoiYep.. it might be14:12
ianychoieumel8, one question: for https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18315/participating-in-translation-makes-you-an-internationalized-openstacker-and-developer?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fboston-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fspeakers%2F9464%23eventid%3D1831514:28
ianychoiI will definitely stay during the presenation.14:28
ianychoiMay I participate in the presentation? Or the presentation by you and @jftalta would be also nice?14:28
eumel8you can participate, sure!14:31
eumel8you have some ideas for the talk? I would talk only about experience and culture.14:32
ianychoiI am not pretty sure.. but I think jftalta has contributed a lot as an I18n French coordinator the longest among three14:33
ianychoiSo he may have better position giving something historical and more idea with detail insight14:33
ianychoieumel8, you are working in Telecommunication company and contribute a lot with your free time - so you would be better position with your own experience and culture14:34
ianychoiI might have better position from Asian culture and experience14:34
eumel8cool14:35
ianychoi+ Something more entire I18n perspective - relationship with developers and operators from PTL, infrastructure things, and coordinating with different languages14:35
eumel8maybe both of you have more experience also with local translation team and how to build them14:35
ianychoiNote that.. the title includes "developer" and "internationalized". You think that I18n activities affected your career as your current job or better communicating with developers?14:37
eumel8true14:38
ianychoiYep.. Launchpad, Gerrit and other tools.. at least I think - these are currently from just my thinking14:38
eumel8but the title is " Participating in translation makes you an internationalized OpenStacker & developer". And it's on Beginner level. So you want the catch new people and aquire for I18n.14:40
eumel8focus not so much on current developer14:41
ianychoiAha.. when I first read the title, the focus would be the developers who want to work internationally14:41
ianychoihaha14:41
eumel8ok :)14:42
eumel8but good to hear about the background from jftalta14:43
ianychoiBut.. it would be also nice if the presentation would give idea how to better understand developers for translators14:43
ianychoiYep +1 :)14:43
ianychoiHmm, for me it might be better to sleep now..14:45
eumel8ok14:45
ianychoiIf @jftalta is online, would you share our talking?14:46
eumel8sure14:46
ianychoiOr the link: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-i18n/%23openstack-i18n.2017-04-09.log.html#t2017-04-09T13:07:4214:46
eumel8and awaiting the doodle poll14:46
ianychoieumel8, have a good Sunday afternoon, evening, and night :)14:46
eumel8yes, good night, ianychoi :)14:47
ianychoi:)14:47
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