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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/i18n master: Import Tools page from OpenStack Wiki https://review.openstack.org/489021 | 09:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/i18n master: Sync zanata IDs to Korean member list https://review.openstack.org/485966 | 09:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/i18n master: doc: Add Zanata CLI information https://review.openstack.org/489020 | 09:25 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: hi, you ping-ed me last night. | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, hi now fine :) I wanted to ask you whether translation memory stores translations for deleted projects regarding http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-July/002980.html but I checked that Zanata has them :) | 13:48 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: actually I don't know that. I think we need to ask alex | 13:49 |
| amotoki | if there are some branches (versions in zanata) it seems we can re-use trnaslation memories from other projects. | 13:50 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: thanks for sending a mail to summarize the current situation on doc-migration and translations! I thought the same but failed to find enough time to write it | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, https://www.dropbox.com/s/3oo7si4q9fji1pa/translation_memory_test_Zanata_ja_networking-guide.png?dl=0 => master version of networking-guide was deleted but I can see strings in translation memory on networking-guide, Japanese, stable-ocata version :) | 13:52 |
| amotoki | just from my experience, translation memory suggests candidates from all versions. | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | Aha I see - so great :) | 13:54 |
| amotoki | if some stable versions exist, they will be used. in other word, if some noisy version exists, words from such version are also displayed. | 13:54 |
| amotoki | honestly I hope someone else jump into the infra area related to documentation translation in the next cycle | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | But project deletion might imply the deletion of translation memory - I was worried about that point but now it should be fine | 13:55 |
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| amotoki | it some project deletion planned? | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | s/project/documents in a project | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | For example, master version of networking-guide was already deleted | 13:56 |
| amotoki | ah i see | 13:56 |
| amotoki | networking-guide is one of special documents which are versioned. | 13:56 |
| amotoki | isn't ocata and newton versions kept until EOL of corresponding branches? | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | Translation memory section displays the strings in a deleted document. In fact, I did not suspect such kind of things for the last log deletion on server project. | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | For me, I think we can make the EOL documents and/or projects as read-only | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/openstack-manuals => stable-liberty and stable-mitaka are marked as read-only | 13:58 |
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| amotoki | +1 for keeping them | 13:58 |
| amotoki | i think that is what we are doing for horizon or other translations | 13:59 |
| amotoki | we see read-only version stable-(mitaka|liberty) in horizon | 13:59 |
| amotoki | oh,, parallel meeting time for neutron and neutron-fwaas | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Aha okay. See u later :) | 14:00 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: hi again | 15:02 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, yep :) | 15:03 |
| amotoki | i think we need to confirm Alex or zanata team on Zanata behavior | 15:03 |
| amotoki | we have less experience on deleting something | 15:03 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: btw, re zanata-users-sync, I see some tricky behavior. the order of members in zh-CN has been changed from the last member sync | 15:06 |
| amotoki | do you think it is better our script sorts members in the alphabetical order? | 15:07 |
| ianychoi | Hmm really | 15:07 |
| amotoki | now we can sync automatically, so we have less need to keep the same order | 15:07 |
| ianychoi | It seems that Zanata sometimes display the order differently? | 15:08 |
| amotoki | i don't know but guess so :( | 15:08 |
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| ianychoi | Oh interesting :) Really, the order for one ID in zh-CN team was changed! | 15:12 |
| ianychoi | The addition of Zanata IDs were suggested from contributors and following the order same as Zanata ID was logical to validate whether the ID is really in Zanata or not by manual observation. | 15:13 |
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| ianychoi | Now although the script is a little bit brittle, it helps to validate the existence of Zanata IDs in language teams. | 15:14 |
| ianychoi | So I think changing to alphabet orders on the script, the upper comments parts in the yaml file, and I18n contributor guide documentation look pretty fine | 15:15 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: I think we are in the same page :) | 15:25 |
| ianychoi | :) | 15:26 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: the script is fragile, but we can disable it (drop it from pep8 commands) if it becomes completely broken immediately | 15:26 |
| ianychoi | I see | 15:26 |
| amotoki | I really hope someone jump into the infra area related to documentation translation | 15:27 |
| amotoki | I will have less time on the i18n side in the next cycle | 15:27 |
| ianychoi | Yep.. I see :) Me would be the same but I would like to stay in the team as much as I can :) | 15:28 |
| amotoki | it is same for me | 15:28 |
| amotoki | hmm..... my zanata-cli cannot talk with Zanata.... what happens?? | 15:29 |
| ianychoi | Which version of zanata-cli do you use? | 15:29 |
| amotoki | it is 4.2.1 | 15:30 |
| amotoki | too new? | 15:31 |
| ianychoi | Same. For me, "zanata-cli stats" command works well | 15:31 |
| ianychoi | now | 15:31 |
| amotoki | I installed it by 'brew install zanata-client' | 15:32 |
| amotoki | I got java.lang.NullPointerException :( | 15:32 |
| ianychoi | Aha.. macOS environment? My current execution environment is Ubuntu 16.04 and I installed it using 0install | 15:33 |
| amotoki | which jre version do you use on Ubuntu xenial? | 15:34 |
| ianychoi | $ java -version | 15:34 |
| ianychoi | openjdk version "1.8.0_131" | 15:34 |
| amotoki | hmmm.... zanata-cli on Ubuntu 16.04 fails with the same error too... | 15:35 |
| amotoki | i am using openjdk-8-jre:amd64 8u131-b11-2ubuntu1.16.04.3 | 15:36 |
| ianychoi | 8u131-b11-2ubuntu1.16.04.3 | 15:36 |
| ianychoi | Same as you hmm... | 15:36 |
| amotoki | so there seems another cause | 15:37 |
| ianychoi | The error message just shows Null pointer exception? Would there be more information? | 15:37 |
| amotoki | like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/617138/ | 15:38 |
| amotoki | no useful information | 15:38 |
| ianychoi | http://paste.openstack.org/show/617139/ | 15:38 |
| ianychoi | I think I need to test on horizon repository | 15:39 |
| amotoki | suddenly I got a solution | 15:39 |
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| amotoki | after removing :443 from translate_openstack_org.url=https://translate.openstack.org:443/ in zanata.ini | 15:40 |
| amotoki | it works well | 15:40 |
| amotoki | looks like a regression in zanata-cli | 15:40 |
| ianychoi | translate_openstack_org.url=https://translate.openstack.org/ | 15:40 |
| ianychoi | Aha..... | 15:41 |
| amotoki | I maintain my zanata.ini in my private git repo, so I am using the same file long.. | 15:41 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2017-03-01.log.html#t2017-03-01T23:37:22 | 15:42 |
| ianychoi | On last Zanata upgrade on March this year, aeng configured the URL to https://translate.openstack.org | 15:43 |
| amotoki | ah..... | 15:44 |
| ianychoi | It was because translate.o.o domain now is a kind of virtualhost - it actually translate01.openstack.org | 15:44 |
| amotoki | I recreated my dev machine today and it hit the problem.. | 15:44 |
| ianychoi | So, changing to "translate_openstack_org.url=https://translate.openstack.org/" would be fine? | 15:45 |
| amotoki | looks fine | 15:45 |
| amotoki | btw, how did you search IRC log so far? | 15:45 |
| ianychoi | Manually in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/ using keyword "443", since I remember the last Zanata upgrade :) | 15:46 |
| amotoki | ah... your memory is very goooood | 15:47 |
| ianychoi | Haha... thanks :) | 15:48 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: can you talk with Sungjin to drop his -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485966/ ? | 15:51 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: I can resync the list and we can approve it soon now. | 15:51 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, yep :) He was worried about getting the original author the credit of commit | 15:54 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, Or let's make another commit and abandon 485966 | 15:55 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: ah.. we can propose another sync patch | 15:55 |
| amotoki | it is just a maintenance | 15:55 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, +1 :) | 15:55 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: will push it as a commit for future reference | 15:56 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, I see. Thanks a lot! | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack/i18n master: Sync Zanata translator list https://review.openstack.org/489646 | 15:58 |
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