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yasemin | <amotoki> i run /opt/stack/horizon, but my devstack env is mitaka version. is there any problem ? | 05:00 |
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amotoki | yasemin: not sure. some has been changed since then and some not. | 05:07 |
amotoki | yasemin: if django complains, you can try envvar DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE=openstack_dashboard.settings | 05:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/i18n master: Mention release note translation removal https://review.openstack.org/494390 | 06:21 |
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robcresswell | ianychoi: o/ How's things going with stable/pike translations? I am wondering when to tag Horizon RC2 | 07:07 |
robcresswell | ianychoi: Also we seem to be getting much bigger translation bot patches for master, than stable/pike, but stable/pike should be the focus. I am not sure though, I may just have seen a couple of patches. | 07:08 |
ianychoi | robcresswell, thanks a lot! Yep although I already noticed, it seems that many I18n people still do translations on master branch | 07:09 |
robcresswell | ianychoi: Maybe it is worthwhile to send an email to remind people? I don't know how that is usually handled :) | 07:10 |
ianychoi | I will do translation merge from master to stable-pike version today night and I would like to check http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-August/003020.html and then tomorrow after translation merge would be the best to tag Horizon RC2? | 07:11 |
ianychoi | robcresswell, sure I would like to also emphasize today IRC meeting (13:00 UTC). | 07:11 |
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ianychoi | robcresswell, I am not still sure (sorry I don't have enough time to test with DevStack) but when I check using https://i18n.external.otc.telekomcloud.com/ (translator/I18nPike17), zh-hans and zh-hanw do not show Chinese characters.. | 07:14 |
robcresswell | ianychoi: Awesome. There is no immediate rush; the hard deadline is 24th, but I would like to tag earlier in case of last-minute issues | 07:14 |
ianychoi | robcresswell, thanks :) So today I would like to discuss more with Frank (eumel8), since he deployed the site and I am not sure whether the site now uses the up to date sources or not | 07:15 |
robcresswell | ianychoi: What are the translation % for those languages? Anythng not translated will just show as English | 07:16 |
ianychoi | robcresswell, 99.06% for zh-CN and 81.21% for zh-TW (stable-pike) | 07:17 |
robcresswell | hmm | 07:17 |
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robcresswell | ianychoi: I am not sure then :( Maybe the language codes are not matching or something | 07:19 |
ianychoi | Hmm.... yep... | 07:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/i18n master: Mention release note translation removal https://review.openstack.org/494390 | 07:46 |
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amotoki | some translators works on translation on weekend, so I usually think Monday or Tuesday is a good timing for final translation import. | 08:26 |
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robcresswell | Okay amotoki | 09:50 |
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eumel8 | my first Executive Order as PTL: catched a new translator for the German team now :-) | 10:04 |
andymccr | congrats eumel8! | 10:05 |
eumel8 | thx andymccr, hopefully you're still with us in the OSA project | 10:08 |
andymccr | eumel8: i will still be around for sure. | 10:08 |
eumel8 | great, are you at the PTG? | 10:09 |
eumel8 | in Denver, I mean | 10:14 |
andymccr | i will be there! | 10:16 |
jpich | Congratulations on your PTLship, eumel8 :) | 10:17 |
eumel8 | thx, jpich :) | 10:17 |
eumel8 | andymccr: maybe we want to try the installation of the translate check server together with the infra-team | 10:18 |
andymccr | eumel8: sure sounds good! | 10:18 |
eumel8 | I think we will have the best progress on-site | 10:19 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/i18n master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/494467 | 10:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/i18n master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/494467 | 12:00 |
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eumel8 | sorry for the fast interruption | 14:01 |
jpich | No worries, time is time | 14:02 |
ianychoi | :) | 14:02 |
amotoki | :) | 14:02 |
jpich | ianychoi: I think "documenting in code" means writing more code, and less documentation :P | 14:03 |
amotoki | btw, no change in meeting time? | 14:03 |
ianychoi | jpich, oh.... yes hahahaha | 14:03 |
amotoki | ianychoi: this effort tries to do similar things we do for configurations (oslo.config) | 14:04 |
ianychoi | jpich, what I thought was that each project team would have more responsibility on how to well document | 14:04 |
ianychoi | Docs team might be decentralized.. | 14:04 |
eumel8 | amotoki: not yet, you have preferations? | 14:04 |
amotoki | eumel8: no preferences. this week meeting time is fine for me as i18n is completely my spare time effort | 14:05 |
amotoki | eumel8: i think 0700 UTC is hard for you | 14:06 |
ianychoi | For me, 13:00 UTC is fine but 07:00 UTC is sometimes hard | 14:06 |
eumel8 | amotoki: not really. I get up mostly early :) | 14:07 |
amotoki | same for me for 0700UTC. it is in office hours and I usually have weekly meeting | 14:07 |
jpich | 0700 UTC can be a bit rough for me too fwiw, though it's still feasible. But prioritise the regular members preferences :) | 14:07 |
eumel8 | now we have summer time and our local wekly meeting is one hour behind shifted | 14:08 |
ianychoi | I don't remember previous IRC meeting times, but I18n team tried to have bi-weekly meeting to make I18n team meeting accessible to every location as much as possible | 14:08 |
amotoki | that's the reason I usually missed 0700UTC meetings :p | 14:09 |
eumel8 | I had this week a virtual sprint starting at 01:00 UTC - THAT'S hard for me ;-) | 14:09 |
ianychoi | Previously, it was 06:00 UTC and 13:00 UTC considering US-EU-Asia time zones, but from about 2 years, there is almost no attendees from US timezone and 07:00 UTC time was set considering more on EU time zones | 14:09 |
ianychoi | eumel8, sorry about last virtual sprint. I just did it with offline local event in Korea | 14:10 |
eumel8 | ianychoi: no worry, it's seems you have done a lot of work there? | 14:10 |
eumel8 | saw some commits and fixes from attendees... | 14:11 |
amotoki | re the virtual sprint, I think we forgot to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493788/ in the meeting | 14:11 |
ianychoi | eumel8, on 01:00 - 06:00 UTC, I emphasized to explain more on I18n team :) and Yep - I encouraged participants to submit a commit :) | 14:11 |
amotoki | (Asian countries have no summer time, so we can easily convert local times into UTC :p) | 14:12 |
ianychoi | It looks so difficult.. I think amotoki's suggestion might address it :) using msggrep (I really did not know that - thanks a lot!) | 14:12 |
ianychoi | I think I can see it on this weekend.. | 14:12 |
amotoki | ianychoi: sounds perfect | 14:13 |
ianychoi | I will meet the original committer on this Saturday offline | 14:13 |
amotoki | perhaps msg*** tools are friends of AJaeger and me :) | 14:13 |
ianychoi | amotoki, you are really pioneer on I18n team with lots of knowledge on dealing with GNU PO files | 14:13 |
eumel8 | ianychoi: you want to double check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493788/ again? | 14:14 |
ianychoi | eumel8, yep - I will do in on this weekend :) Sure | 14:14 |
amotoki | ianychoi: I was a previous maintainer of jman (japanese manuals of linux manual pages) and I learned a lot | 14:14 |
eumel8 | okay, then I leave it as is | 14:15 |
ianychoi | Regarding this, I18n team needs to support documention translation support not only openstack-manuals, training-guides, i18n, but also other repos | 14:15 |
ianychoi | "Generic approach" as amotoki mentioned in the review.. | 14:15 |
amotoki | eumel8: ianychoi: I dont' think we need to block the change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493788/ as it reduces unnecessary strings | 14:15 |
amotoki | we can explore and improve more efficient way | 14:16 |
amotoki | that's the reason I didn't -1 to that | 14:16 |
ianychoi | eumel8, I am sure that current proposal definitely reduces the number of strings in csv :) | 14:16 |
eumel8 | ianychoi: sure - more or less :-)) | 14:17 |
amotoki | I am fine to merge the current version now | 14:17 |
ianychoi | Note that I do not give +2 because I am also a co-author | 14:17 |
amotoki | haha | 14:18 |
amotoki | I just noticed it | 14:18 |
ianychoi | Anyway, I18n sprint in Korea was great to deliver messages to local people that I18n team focus does not limit to translation contribution. | 14:19 |
amotoki | ianychoi: sounds great | 14:19 |
amotoki | ianychoi: how many folks joined it? | 14:19 |
ianychoi | amotoki, total seven but full-time was four actually | 14:20 |
amotoki | ianychoi: nice | 14:20 |
amotoki | ianychoi: as JP community we tend to focus on operator meetups | 14:20 |
ianychoi | amotoki, I see - next February? | 14:21 |
amotoki | next March one is a global event. we also have local ops meetups twice a year | 14:21 |
amotoki | along with OpenStack Days Tokyo and Okinawa Open Days | 14:22 |
ianychoi | Aha great :) | 14:22 |
ianychoi | Yep.. :) | 14:22 |
amotoki | most JP operators read and search english document and sources.... according to my rough survey in OpenStack Days two year ago | 14:23 |
amotoki | ianychoi: is it okay to merge this now and discuss/explore nicer way? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493788/ | 14:27 |
amotoki | ianychoi: we lost several translations due to CSV contents | 14:28 |
eumel8 | only +2 for the review | 14:30 |
eumel8 | we could merge it bit I want to wait for ianychoi | 14:31 |
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ianychoi | amotoki, eumel8: It would be great if you both give +2 for the review :) | 14:38 |
eumel8 | i would give +1 for the workflow. that would be a good stats as PTL for the first day :) | 14:39 |
ianychoi | :) | 14:42 |
amotoki | ianychoi: eumel8: thanks. I pushed it into the gate with some comment. | 14:42 |
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amotoki | we usually do this kind of things in IRC in other projects | 14:43 |
eumel8 | ok | 14:43 |
amotoki | what I believe is important is we should do such in open like IRC :) | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/i18n master: Excludes csv stat data from pot generation https://review.openstack.org/493788 | 14:46 |
eumel8 | ok, time to go home. see you later | 14:47 |
amotoki | have a nice evening :) | 14:48 |
jpich | Have a nice evening! | 14:48 |
amotoki | jpich: you too :) | 14:48 |
jpich | :) | 14:49 |
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