Thursday, 2017-12-07

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eumel8good morning07:20
eumel8ianychoi, amotoki: are you're around?07:21
eumel8ianychoi, amotoki: I wanted to move on with zanata upgrade. To hotfix your login issues on translate-dev my idea was to remove your accounts and now I realize it's not possible via web-ui07:26
eumel8ianychoi, amotoki: I created a second account for me and this works, so I didn't wait until the openid issues are fixed.07:27
openstackgerritFrank Kloeker proposed openstack/i18n master: Add I18n PTL guide  https://review.openstack.org/52505107:32
eumel8brb :)07:32
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ianychoieumel8, would u share the ID and password?08:38
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eumel8ianychoi: which ID?09:15
eumel8ianychoi: there are still task open, like register new user: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-zanata-test-for-translate-dev09:16
ianychoieumel8, openstackid is not working? "After that a redirect to https://translate-dev.openstack.org/404 occurs (page not found)"09:25
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eumel8ianychoi: openid is working, it's redirect only to a none existing page09:46
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ianychoieumel8, hmm should I register with a new e-mail address?10:21
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ianychoieumel8, I added some comments on the first part.10:35
eumel8ianychoi: new address would be good.10:42
ianychoieumel8, I tried but it did not work10:43
eumel8ianychoi: but your're in10:45
eumel8ianychoi: with ianychoi_dev10:45
eumel8ianychoi: so email verification is working?10:45
ianychoieumel8, I deleted openid connection10:45
ianychoieumel8, such deletion must not work in Zanata10:45
eumel8ianychoi: yes, this is a requirement. or use another browser10:45
eumel8I added ianychoi_dev as admin10:46
ianychoieumel8, I cannot access ianychoi_dev account now hmm10:47
eumel8ianychoi: but the account is enabled, try another browser10:48
eumel8ianychoi: ah, mom. you need also another openstack-id10:49
eumel8and the registration server has a htaccess protection10:50
eumel8that was my last try there10:50
ianychoieumel8, hmm when I press "Register for an OpenStack ID", https://devbranch.openstack.org/join/register page can be seen but it asks me additional authentication. Same as u?10:53
eumel8ianychoi: yeah10:53
eumel8ianychoi: the registration service is behind that protection10:54
ianychoieumel8, hmm some assistance from openstackid developers would be needed10:54
eumel8ianychoi: you can check https://openstackid-dev.openstack.org/accounts/user/profile10:54
ianychoiSebastian Marcet and Jimmy McArthur10:55
ianychoi should be the right person to ask for this problem.10:55
eumel8ianychoi: i think the openid link is stored in zanata database.10:55
ianychoieumel8, that's why I shared one Etherpad...10:55
eumel8ianychoi: maybe a fresh zanata database would solve some problems. but not the htaccess protection of the openid-dev service. it's not useful10:58
ianychoieumel8, would you add more problems on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/translate-dev-openstackid-issues and make louder voice on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-December/005715.html ? I cannot think better approach now..10:58
ianychoieumel8, for htaccess on devbranch.o.o, Jimmy McArthur takes care of this.10:59
eumel8which team is Jimmy?10:59
ianychoieumel8, https://www.openstack.org/foundation/staff - OpenStack Foundation and he manages all web parts in www.openstack.org and openstackid development.11:00
eumel8ianychoi: question for me is, we wait until the dev server problems are solved or we move on with live update next week?11:01
ianychoieumel8, you can test more :) For me I cannot help other tests since I do not have the access to translate-dev.o.o11:01
eumel8ianychoi: mhmm, I try to remember, how I generated a second account with access to the dev platform. Maybe I wasn't never there before.11:02
eumel8ianychoi: but I tested the new version on my own environment a lot.11:03
ianychoieumel8, by the way IMO removing openid connections in Zanata might not be suitable for production. It would be so severe disaster if some users use this functionality - Zanata database in production might be so messed..11:04
ianychoieumel8, did u also create a new account?11:04
ianychoieumel8, I tried to do step by step from OpenStack Foundation account registration in translate-dev.openstack.org.11:05
eumel8ianychoi: yes, but not on translate-dev because the registration service for openstackid is not working. Was that the reason, why it was to live connected in the past?11:05
eumel8ianychoi: we can reconfigure translate-dev to connect to openstackid live11:06
ianychoieumel8, infra team will object this, since me, infra team, and openstackid developers already agreed on using openstackid-dev during previous Pike cycle. I tried to describe in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/translate-dev-openstackid-issues as much as possible for a long story.11:07
ianychoieumel8, I am so sorry that I cannot help now unfortunately...11:09
eumel8ianychoi: I saw it. Don't worry. Project management by me is: don't build depedencies. I wouldn't mix up this problems on translate-dev with zanata upgrade. Most use cases are fine, only thing are sync jobs. That's not easy testable for me.11:13
ianychoieumel8, the main point for translation sync job is related whether Zanata APIs for translation sync work fine or not. From my remembrance, I cloned openstack-infra/project-config and executed translation import & export scripts with a API key for translate-dev.o.o and checked like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436394/ .11:19
ianychoieumel8, I agree with your project mgmt. perspective - not mixing with openstackid-dev issue & translate-dev.o.o would be so nice idea. But "Remove connection" functionality should not be shipped in production: You might see "Remove connection" button in https://translate-dev.openstack.org/dashboard/settings and if u click the button I am sure that u might see disaster.11:23
ianychoieumel8, if some more configuration changes on openstack-infra/puppet-zanata address the problem, it would be best. However, if the problem cannot be solved, then upgrading to lower Zanata version or waiting for a new fixed Zanata version would be nice I think..11:24
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eumel8ianychoi: you mean remove connection in openstackid service or in zanata? I've got lost a little bit12:09
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ianychoieumel8, yes if a user clicks "remove connection" button in production, we cannot help the user.14:06
eumel8ianychoi: okay, but this is not a problem specific for zanata.14:11
eumel8ianychoi: I think this is only an overview about current authentificated services.14:13
eumel8https://openstackid.org/accounts/user/profile there is the same list for me14:13
ianychoieumel8, hmm can you see "remove connection" button on https://translate-dev.openstack.org/dashboard/settings page?14:14
ianychoieumel8, if you click the button then there is no pointer for your Zanata account, which implies that you cannot the your Zanata ID forever.14:14
ianychoieumel8, FYI: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-i18n/%23openstack-i18n.2017-12-06.log.html#t2017-12-06T01:20:24 => Interestingly, the functionality works unfortunately..14:19
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eumel8ianychoi: yes, in live I can also delete the oauth set16:10
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ianychoieumel8, omg :(16:20
eumel8ianychoi: I think this would only force a new auth login mask16:23
eumel8ianychoi: but I wouldn't test it ;)16:24
ianychoieumel8, I already tested. Plz do not test - if u test then u might lose the access to your account16:24
eumel8ianychoi: alright, but it's the same situation like dev and prod env16:39
ianychoieumel8, this is why such functionality should be removed16:40
eumel8workshop finished, move computer :)16:43
ianychoieumel8, :)16:43
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