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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/i18n master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/598047 | 06:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/i18n master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/598047 | 07:02 |
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| eumel8 | #startmeeting openstack_i18n_office_hour | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 30 13:01:53 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_i18n_office_hour)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_office_hour' | 13:01 |
| eumel8 | Hello, and welcome to I18n office hour! | 13:02 |
| jpich | Hello! | 13:08 |
| eumel8 | hello jpich! | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | we are the only one to celebrate release day? :) | 13:11 |
| jpich | haha, is it actually out?? I didn't see any email | 13:15 |
| eumel8 | At 3:00 UTC is a bigger party: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2018-August/015751.html | 13:28 |
| eumel8 | docs going live in this minute: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/598150/ | 13:28 |
| jpich | oooh :) | 13:38 |
| eumel8 | we hanging around in #openstack-release | 13:54 |
| eumel8 | so will the meeting close here :) | 13:55 |
| jpich | Ok! | 13:55 |
| eumel8 | #endmeeting | 13:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack goes multilingual! | I18n & L10 channel" | 13:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 30 13:55:19 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-08-30-13.01.html | 13:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-08-30-13.01.txt | 13:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-08-30-13.01.log.html | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi | Nice celebration :) | 15:53 |
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| ianychoi | Just one update: Thanks to one small event in Korea with university students on recent two days with me, Korean upstream training material has 100% translations although there is minor translation sync job failure: http://zuul.openstack.org/builds.html?job_name=propose-translation-update&project=openstack%2Ftraining-guides | 16:42 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I would like to start some discussion on having a "i18n-doc-tools" repo (naming is just an example) like http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-doc-tools | 16:54 |
| ianychoi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572559/ is still on stuck with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/588110/ . | 16:56 |
| ianychoi | To make simpler on a single job, I think adding shell script files on project repos is not a good idea. If a library can be installed like openstack-doc-tools for project doc translation support and this library can deal with project doc translation build, it would very nice. | 16:57 |
| eumel8 | yes, saw it | 17:01 |
| eumel8 | an ansible role is also an option, depends on the content | 17:02 |
| ianychoi | I want to support to build translated doc using like "tox -edocs" | 17:03 |
| ianychoi | I don't know how to use ansible role using tox.. do you have an idea? | 17:03 |
| eumel8 | it's a standard job, I had it today in project-config/playbooks/project-config/run-tox.yaml | 17:09 |
| ianychoi | What I meant, executing "tox -edocs" *locally* | 17:09 |
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| eumel8 | something from publish-openstack-tox-docs-base job | 17:09 |
| ianychoi | e.g., $ git clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack/i18n && cd i18n && tox -edocs | 17:09 |
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| ianychoi | Docs build on governance has changed | 17:10 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580495/ | 17:11 |
| ianychoi | Now PTI uses tox environment | 17:11 |
| eumel8 | in zuul-jobs is a role tox, so you can simply run that playbook and that should call tox -edocs | 17:11 |
| ianychoi | For example, my laptop | 17:12 |
| ianychoi | How can I install openstack-zuul-jobs and make use of such jobs locally? | 17:12 |
| ianychoi | Two things from now: 1) I think you are good at ansible things but unfortunately I am not good at those things 2) I would like personally to focus on development on Python pypi library :) | 17:13 |
| eumel8 | thats an interesting question and I'm on it. Zuul jobs respective ansible playbooks should be run also on your laptop | 17:18 |
| ianychoi | I agree with you and although such repo is developed it needs to be integrated with openstack-zuul-jobs and project-config, which eumel8 would definitely help :) | 17:19 |
| eumel8 | yes, I'm on that way, but my zuul instance won't work well at the moment so it needs a deeper investigation with parent jobs and something like that. But it's helpfull to understand Zuul in general | 17:22 |
| eumel8 | here is an example for include ansible in tox: https://github.com/eumel8/ansible-otc/blob/galaxy/tox.ini#L21 | 17:23 |
| eumel8 | problem was: i moved roles out of the repo and needs the documentation from there to build sphinx doc | 17:23 |
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| ianychoi | Oh there is also ansible-otc :) | 17:34 |
| eumel8 | unfortunatelly I had no time to talk to students like you to force translation work in German. It was my plan after OSD in Krakow | 17:38 |
| ianychoi | It would not be possible if I have a full-time job + I am not an user group organizer | 17:39 |
| eumel8 | user group organizer is also nice | 17:48 |
| eumel8 | but difficult, I think | 17:48 |
| eumel8 | but depends on the people | 17:49 |
| ianychoi | It gets more difficult as time goes and there are more open sources: not only OpenStack but also Kubernetes, Prometheus, Istio, and so on.. | 17:51 |
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| ianychoi | Good things might be more collaboration with many open source groups locally or embracing all in a user group - such thinking seems not easy but I think I can enjoy :) | 17:52 |
| eumel8 | I saw the pictures on twitter and I think it's the different culture. We don't celebrate anything here :( | 17:56 |
| ianychoi | Ah, and I have briefly tested another direction on translating from non-English to English | 18:10 |
| ianychoi | 1. uploading pot source from non-English (e.g., German, Korean) 2. translating non-English to English as po | 18:11 |
| eumel8 | interesting | 18:12 |
| ianychoi | I wanna more test: extracting non-English characters using sphinx-build command from non-English rst files and converting English po to new English pot for future translation from English to other non-English languages | 18:12 |
| ianychoi | Yep :) although more testing is needed, I think such flow should work well :) | 18:13 |
| ianychoi | openstack-helm team is interested in such flow | 18:13 |
| ianychoi | In openstack-helm team, I heard that Korean documentation is active and the team members are interested in such flow | 18:14 |
| eumel8 | funny thing ;) | 18:19 |
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