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eumel8 | oops, it's merged : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581000/ | 12:48 |
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eumel8 | and failed: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-ansible/master/propose-translation-update/a0800dd/job-output.txt.gz | 12:49 |
eumel8 | may I forgot git add | 12:52 |
eumel8 | #startmeeting openstack_i18n_office_hour | 12:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 13 12:59:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:59 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_i18n_office_hour)" | 12:59 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_office_hour' | 12:59 |
eumel8 | #topic Open Discussion | 12:59 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack_i18n_office_hour)" | 12:59 | |
eumel8 | Start the meeting ;) | 12:59 |
eumel8 | Welcome to I18n office hour | 12:59 |
ianychoi | i will be online in 15 mins... | 12:59 |
eumel8 | ok | 12:59 |
eumel8 | but will close in time :) | 13:00 |
jpich | Hello | 13:04 |
eumel8 | hello jpich :) | 13:05 |
jpich | eumel8: Are you in Denver? I can't recall | 13:08 |
eumel8 | jpich: I'm already in Berlin :-)) | 13:09 |
jpich | Oh did you only go for the cross-project days? | 13:09 |
eumel8 | no, no Denver travel | 13:10 |
jpich | Ah! | 13:10 |
eumel8 | too many parallel events this week. At the end I was already at home ;) | 13:10 |
jpich | No RDO party for you | 13:10 |
jpich | Fair enough! That way you won't be late for the Summit :-) | 13:11 |
eumel8 | not sure, I have so many other events to organize around the Summit. Hopefully I have time for the main event there ;) | 13:12 |
jpich | haha! | 13:13 |
ianychoi | jpich, oh are u in Denver?! | 13:14 |
jpich | Nope | 13:14 |
ianychoi | jpich, I was in Denver but now am in Korea :( | 13:14 |
jpich | Ah! How was Denver? :) | 13:14 |
ianychoi | Great :) | 13:15 |
jpich | Productive conversations?? | 13:15 |
ianychoi | Sure! So great memories | 13:15 |
eumel8 | I saw only beer bottles and glasses ;) | 13:15 |
ianychoi | #link https://twitter.com/ianychoi/status/1039675065715982336 | 13:15 |
ianychoi | #link https://twitter.com/ianychoi/status/1039301387702624256 | 13:16 |
eumel8 | yeah, the Docs Team :) | 13:16 |
ianychoi | And the following is one of productive conversations, although I was not on Wednesday | 13:16 |
ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134609.html | 13:16 |
eumel8 | ianychoi: is the interview already online? | 13:17 |
ianychoi | Also I18n :) I had nice conversation with openstack-helm team for from Korean to English documentation | 13:17 |
jpich | Nice! | 13:17 |
ianychoi | eumel8, not yet :( | 13:17 |
eumel8 | just wondering, rbowen wasn't there | 13:17 |
ianychoi | Also Doug and Monty kindly tried to help a lot with nice conversation, although the the discussion on the upper link happened on Wed, during my return flight to Korea | 13:18 |
eumel8 | yes, time is running fast | 13:19 |
ianychoi | And I discussed w/ Storyboard team how to I18n-ize Storyboard dashboard, and we discussed some possible ways of I18n-ing Storyboard dashboard | 13:19 |
ianychoi | In addition, FC-sig team really wants to make contributor-guide i18n-ized. Also nice conversation | 13:19 |
eumel8 | nice | 13:20 |
ianychoi | Sorry I couldn't now provide summary - I think I can summarize on this weekend | 13:20 |
ianychoi | eumel8, and... Petr suggested an interesting idea.. merging Docs office hour and I18n office hour into one. How about this idea? :) | 13:21 |
eumel8 | mhm, I don't know. Interests are slidely different. | 13:23 |
eumel8 | But I observ the situation how Docs office hour works and ours also | 13:23 |
ianychoi | I think it is fine since 1) we don't have enough quorum 2) Some interests are duplicated 3) We know each other a lot | 13:23 |
eumel8 | yes, but I was a little bit disappointed when I checked the attendee list on the PTG etherpad for docs/i18n. There are fewer and fewer people every year. I think we have to change things in general. | 13:26 |
ianychoi | eumel8, which possible things in general? | 13:26 |
eumel8 | from my observations you collaborate a lot with other teams or SIGs in Denver. That's be very good. But there is no more work as an independent team - on I18n side and now also on Docs side | 13:30 |
eumel8 | but maybe I'm wrong. Want to talk to Petr also :) | 13:33 |
ianychoi | I think collaboration makes I18n team get more attention and be much stronger with the help inside & outside of the team. I can definitely say that there are more progress on doc translation support, translating whitepapers, additional I18n process on openstack-helm team as a pilot, contributor-guide, and Storyboard. | 13:34 |
ianychoi | Second, it definitely seems that Docs & I18n are stablized, and more additional unofficial projects (from the perspective of TC) want to get more Docs/I18n. | 13:34 |
ianychoi | I cannot say that I am the best to address all possible Docs/I18n issues we are facing. I cannot change current trend and the interest of people and contributors, but what I could do is to share the issues in Docs/I18n which might be related with other projects and discuss how Docs/I18n teams can address | 13:36 |
ianychoi | Aha.. one forgot thing I wanted to share (although eumel8 already knew): AUC criteria and it seems that there is no objection on UC: "i18n would like translators that work on whitepapers or User Survey to get AUC status - Yes no brainer :) | 13:38 |
ianychoi | " from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-stein-ptg | 13:38 |
eumel8 | ianychoi: yes, that's fine and I'm happy with your tireless work, but I don't know if this justify a project team. You had this idea with the I18n SIG. Maybe we want to think about it again. | 13:41 |
ianychoi | eumel8, thanks but you also do tireless work :) | 13:42 |
eumel8 | ianychoi: yes, but this is not endless ;) | 13:44 |
ianychoi | eumel8, I had two different ideas: 1) I18n team -> I18n SIG and 2) I18n team + Globalization SIG. For 1), let's think after I18n team has no PTL candidate. For 2), it seems that more agreement on all OpenStack world might be needed.. | 13:44 |
ianychoi | eumel8, we are now doing well - that's pretty fine and let's seriously consider on next cycle :) | 13:44 |
ianychoi | Me is also under strange situation.. with unstable life in Korea but I am happy to still talk with u | 13:45 |
ianychoi | and many OpenStack contributors | 13:45 |
eumel8 | yes, but somebody has to buy the rolls at the end. You should ask Jimmy for a permanent position at the OSF local office in Korea :) | 13:47 |
ianychoi | Haha.. thanks a lot for such saying but I really don't know how to proceed such position.. | 13:48 |
ianychoi | Perspective and thinking might be very different | 13:48 |
ianychoi | My perspective, your perspective, the perspective of others might be different.. | 13:49 |
eumel8 | ok, have to move | 13:59 |
eumel8 | thx for participating | 13:59 |
eumel8 | cu later :) | 13:59 |
ianychoi | eumel8, cu later :) | 13:59 |
eumel8 | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 13 13:59:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-09-13-12.59.html | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-09-13-12.59.txt | 13:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_office_hour/2018/openstack_i18n_office_hour.2018-09-13-12.59.log.html | 13:59 |
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