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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add read-only tracking superproject for OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/50212 | 02:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Parameterize server OpenStack-isms https://review.openstack.org/33926 | 02:41 |
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| mordred | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/50212 should handle your request from yesterday | 02:51 |
| lifeless | mordred: cool, thanks! | 02:51 |
| lifeless | now I need to actually use it ... ;) | 02:51 |
| mordred | lifeless: well, it needs to land first | 02:52 |
| mordred | lifeless: but it SHOULD magically do the thing you want | 02:52 |
| lifeless | mordred: it's independently useful right? | 02:53 |
| mordred | lifeless: no idea | 02:53 |
| lifeless | we'll find out ;) | 02:53 |
| mordred | lifeless: I cannot think of another use for it | 02:53 |
| mordred | lifeless: BUT - you do have A use for it | 02:53 |
| mordred | and it's pretty low overhead | 02:53 |
| lifeless | great | 02:53 |
| lifeless | good combination | 02:53 |
| mordred | so, we'll see if someone else has one | 02:53 |
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| reed | ttx, you there? | 08:40 |
| ttx | reed: yes | 08:41 |
| reed | ttx, check #openstack, fifieldt and I need your help | 08:41 |
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| salv-orlando | hi, I've hit two distinct bugs in a single zuul jobs, can I do a recheck for both? | 12:12 |
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| Bada | HI guys, I'm trying to run HyperV on top of KVM (openstack) but it failed. Kvm nested in kvm works but not HyperV. Does anyone have an idea or ever tried it ? Many Thanks ! | 12:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomas Sedovic proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Jenkins jobs for tuskar-ui https://review.openstack.org/50317 | 12:35 |
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| fungi | Bada: this channel is where we coordinate running the developer community infrastructure--you probably want #openstack (or maybe #openstack-dev but that's focused more on future development of openstack software, not general support). you might also have more luck posting your question on https://ask.openstack.org/ | 12:56 |
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| salv-orlando | fungi: something more infrastructure-y from me. We noticed the arping utility is causing kernel crashes in the devstack machines used for gating. Kernel crashes started when kernel 3.2.0.54.64 was published. | 13:06 |
| salv-orlando | we are disabling by default use of arping in neutron at the moment. But longer term what should we do? Do you usually talk directly with ubuntu kernel maintainers for this kind of issues? | 13:07 |
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| fungi | salv-orlando: yes, we run vanilla ubuntu kernel images | 13:08 |
| fungi | salv-orlando: i'd suggest checking whether they already have a bug open on it | 13:09 |
| fungi | also pestering zul about ubuntu bugs we encounter sometimes helps ;) | 13:09 |
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| salv-orlando | fungi: thanks, I will file a bug with ubuntu if I do not find any. | 13:11 |
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| fungi | also, kernel crash when running something as innocent as arping? scary! | 13:11 |
| salv-orlando | not a fatal crash | 13:13 |
| salv-orlando | it looks like an issue while switching ip namespaces | 13:13 |
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| salv-orlando | fungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/48056/ | 13:13 |
| mordred | morning fungi | 13:15 |
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| fungi | mordring, morned | 13:16 |
| * fungi gets more coffee | 13:16 | |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add hacking to the projects list https://review.openstack.org/50346 | 13:17 |
| mordred | fungi: so - your three patches for mirror override stuff from yesterday | 13:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/gitdm: Add an employee to UnitedStack https://review.openstack.org/48597 | 13:23 |
| mordred | fungi: if I'm reading it right, setting DEVSTACK_GATE_REQS_INTEGRATION=1 will prevent mirror overriding, yeah? | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Correct Tomas' name. https://review.openstack.org/50240 | 13:38 |
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| fungi | mordred: only if the project being tested is openstack/requirements | 13:46 |
| fungi | mordred: otherwise (pbr, jeepyb, pypi-mirror, whatever) gets tested against the normal mirror | 13:46 |
| fungi | that's my interpretation of what you were trying to accomplish with the original patch anyway. if not, i'll respin it | 13:47 |
| fungi | this just moves the selection logic out of the job and the pbr integration script and into devstack-gate | 13:47 |
| fungi | which i think is what jeblair was getting at, at any rate | 13:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updated api.yaml for the netconn-api v1.0 and v2.0 refs - pom location changed https://review.openstack.org/49030 | 14:00 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: did the fix to the release process for WSME land (the thing with the git repo name not matching the project name)? | 14:01 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: yes, that should work now | 14:04 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: great, thanks! | 14:04 |
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| mordred | fungi: ah. great. that makes sense | 14:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Diane Fleming proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Updated api.yaml for the netconn-api v1.0 and v2.0 refs - pom location changed https://review.openstack.org/49030 | 14:17 |
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| fungi | mordred: this is that change of yours which went through review forever, had templating issues which i thought i solved, turned out to be broken so we quickly reverted, i reproposed with the correct escaping in the shell, then it was suggested to change the implementation, then it sat on my back burner and collected dust for waaay too long | 14:18 |
| fungi | so if it's irrelevant now after 2 months, that's fair... but it looked like it was still probably something we wanted | 14:19 |
| * fungi is trying to dust the cobwebs out of his wip changes and get back on track | 14:19 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix parameter for old Ubuntu Install Guide https://review.openstack.org/50367 | 14:25 |
| AJaeger | infra-team, ^^ is an "obvious" typo, could you get this in so that the Grizzly docs for Fedora are shown again? | 14:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fix parameter for old Ubuntu Install Guide https://review.openstack.org/50367 | 14:29 |
| fungi | AJaeger: ^ | 14:29 |
| AJaeger | fungi, jeblair: Thanks a lot for the super-fast approval! | 14:29 |
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| fungi | it was an extremely easy review ;) | 14:31 |
| jeblair | mordred: were you planning on responding to my comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35535/9 ? | 14:31 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ah! sorry - they got lost back in history. patch coming | 14:32 |
| jeblair | mordred: woot | 14:32 |
| AJaeger | fungi, still an embarrasing typo I made ;( | 14:33 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, how long does it take until the change can be used? Is it ready once merged or does it need some deployment time? | 14:34 |
| jeblair | fungi: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50197/1 is the '--no-mirror' case handled? | 14:34 |
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| fungi | jeblair: i think so, unless i'm misreading the script. since it's getting called from devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh i put the logic there where mirror selection was already being set | 14:37 |
| fungi | jeblair: that is one of a set of three interrelated patches to pbr, devstack-gate and config | 14:37 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh, so does the d-g change need to merge first? | 14:38 |
| jeblair | then pbr, then config? | 14:38 |
| fungi | jeblair: that script isn't being run yet, since the config change is to start running it | 14:38 |
| fungi | so pbr and d-g could merge in parallel | 14:38 |
| jeblair | ok | 14:38 |
| fungi | but the config change is self -2'd waiting on those to be in good enough shape to go ion | 14:38 |
| fungi | in | 14:38 |
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| fungi | just to prevent accidental disasters | 14:39 |
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| fungi | i see now that i forgot to set a consistent topic on those three patches | 14:40 |
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| fungi | https://review.openstack.org/41256 is the config capstone for the others and has a comment linking to them both | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Require python-cinderclient>=1.0.6 https://review.openstack.org/50372 | 14:46 |
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| devananda | g'morning! | 14:52 |
| devananda | unit test question for you guys -- I see a mixture of 'def tearDown' and 'self.addCleanup' in Nova -- is there a preference for new code to use one or the other? | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Remove now-deprecated fetch-remotes command https://review.openstack.org/49958 | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Do repo processing in an existing local dir https://review.openstack.org/35535 | 15:06 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ^^ let me know if you think that addresses your concerns? | 15:09 |
| mordred | devananda: yes! | 15:09 |
| mordred | devananda: tearDown should NEVER EVER EVER be used and should be deleted from all code | 15:09 |
| devananda | mordred: awesome, that's what I thought | 15:09 |
| devananda | thanks! | 15:09 |
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| mordred | devananda: you're welcome! | 15:09 |
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| devananda | mordred: fwiw, there are 65 cases of 'def tearDown' in nova | 15:13 |
| devananda | ...in nova/nova/tests/* | 15:13 |
| mordred | devananda: yeah. we haven't gotten to all of them yet | 15:14 |
| clarkb | morning | 15:15 |
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| mordred | devananda: thanks - I sent out a mailing list message about that. | 15:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: morning! | 15:24 |
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| pabelanger | eep | 15:31 |
| pabelanger | just got OverLimit: This request was rate-limited. (HTTP 413) from nodepool | 15:31 |
| pabelanger | odd | 15:31 |
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| fungi | ttx: diffing the current email-stats.sh script i ran for summit passes and ptl elections, these are the projects on gerrit which are not currently represented (not counting anything in the stackforge org): http://paste.openstack.org/show/48091 | 15:36 |
| fungi | ttx: do you want any of those included before i generate the electorate list for the tc elections? | 15:37 |
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| fungi | most of the missing ones are incubated or recent library/infra projects | 15:38 |
| fungi | plus a few obsoleted/deprecated projects | 15:38 |
| ttx | fungi: I'd say we should include most of them | 15:38 |
| ttx | fungi: I'll etherpad it so that we can editit | 15:38 |
| fungi | k | 15:38 |
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| jeblair | fungi, ttx: there are a lot more infra projects than are listed there | 15:47 |
| fungi | jeblair: that's the missing diff | 15:48 |
| jeblair | fungi: ok | 15:48 |
| fungi | e.g. all the ones not already being accounted for in the script | 15:48 |
| ttx | fungi: current project list looks alright to me (all bu the NONO/deprecated stuff) | 15:49 |
| fungi | just making sure i get an appropriate patch submitted to the script so it's being tracked appropriately for future runs | 15:49 |
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| fungi | ttx: jeblair: thanks for clarifying! patch coming up | 15:50 |
| ttx | fungi: next time it should consume from the governance repo (we shall have projects listed there) | 15:50 |
| fungi | ttx: perfect | 15:50 |
| fungi | i'll be happy to integrate that into the process once it's ready | 15:50 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I should've checked git review before sending that email. it does all the things | 15:56 |
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| jeblair | i'm starting to think git-review should enforce a topic length limit | 16:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm good with that | 16:03 |
| mordred | I think git review is the right time for it | 16:03 |
| mordred | jeblair: btw - it doesn't come up for _us_ very often - but the "check for oustanding changes" report should really only show outstanding merges and not all the patches being merged | 16:05 |
| mordred | because WOW it's a scary output, even if you're done things right | 16:05 |
| jeblair | heh | 16:05 |
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| Ajaeger1 | jeblair, clarkb thanks for your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49429/, so this is not working as suggested. | 16:11 |
| Ajaeger1 | Do you have any other idea on how to do this - running a post job only based on conditions? | 16:11 |
| jeblair | Ajaeger1: i'm afraid not; the post and release jobs all operate on ref-updated events, which aren't actually linked to gerrit changes -- just raw git commit shas | 16:12 |
| jeblair | Ajaeger1: not at the moment; why is it important? is it just not to be wasteful, or is there a functional reason not to run it? | 16:13 |
| Ajaeger1 | just not to be wasteful | 16:13 |
| mgagne | Anyone knows why some cloud providers (rackspace/hp) have metadatas in their images prefixed by com.x._1_? My question is: is it added by a known tool used to manage images? | 16:14 |
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| jeblair | Ajaeger1: then it wouldn't worry too much about it for now; merged changes happen far less often than new patchset uploads, so it's not too big of a deal. | 16:14 |
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| Ajaeger1 | jeblair: ok, then I'll abandon the change. | 16:15 |
| Ajaeger1 | jeblair: thanks! | 16:15 |
| jeblair | Ajaeger1: no problem! | 16:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Preserve merges when doing a rebase https://review.openstack.org/50400 | 16:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Ignore content of merge commits in reporting https://review.openstack.org/50401 | 16:16 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ok. I did both of those things ^^ :) | 16:17 |
| jeblair | mordred: awesome. i should get around to reviewing them in 2-3 weeks. :) | 16:18 |
| mordred | jeblair: that's as I expect :) | 16:18 |
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| mordred | ttx: btw - I proposed a new thing yesterday that will add a task for you | 16:23 |
| ttx | I need ot go now | 16:24 |
| ttx | can you explain that later to me ? | 16:24 |
| mordred | ttx: yup | 16:24 |
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| pleia2 | syntax highlighting \o/ | 16:51 |
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| dkranz | jeblair, mordred : If some one wanted to contribute (not me) in the ci/infra area, which of "general ci/infra" or "tripleo-related" needs more help? | 16:54 |
| mordred | dkranz: general ci/infra | 16:54 |
| dkranz | mordred: OK. Is there a list of projects somewhere? | 16:55 |
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| mordred | dkranz: tripleo-related is sexy enough from a product perspective that it's less hard to convince companies to pony up humans :) | 16:55 |
| mordred | dkranz: we've got a bug list at bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci | 16:55 |
| dkranz | mordred: :) | 16:55 |
| mordred | dkranz: and also just popping in here and saying hi is a great start | 16:55 |
| jeblair | dkranz: http://ci.openstack.org/ has information about the team, how to get started contributing, all the systems, etc | 16:56 |
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| dkranz | jeblair, mordred : Thanks. JUst wanted to make sure you were still "recruiting" :) | 16:57 |
| mordred | dkranz: oh god yes | 16:57 |
| dkranz | mordred: Hate to ask, but to you have anything that looks like a "job description"? | 16:58 |
| jeblair | dkranz: (about the docs -- that should make some good bedtime reading, we still love people coming in and talking to us!) | 16:58 |
| fungi | the first thing a new infra contributor can do to help is get familiar with how things work and assist in triaging questions in this and other irc channels, on the -infra ml and other openstack mailing lists, and in open bug reports | 16:58 |
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| dkranz | mordred: In terms of skills needed, etc. | 16:58 |
| mordred | dkranz: we should make one of those | 16:58 |
| fungi | basically providing some cushion for the random interrupts we get while developing on new stuff | 16:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add basic nodepool documentation page https://review.openstack.org/50194 | 16:58 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'd add 'work on a low-hanging-fruit' but to that list as well | 16:59 |
| jeblair | s/but/bug/ | 16:59 |
| dkranz | ok. Thanks guys. I'll see what I can do. | 16:59 |
| fungi | jeblair: yep, totally agree | 16:59 |
| jeblair | mordred, dkranz: ++ job description; put it in the ci docs? | 17:00 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: thanks for all the reviews! | 17:00 |
| dkranz | jeblair: Sure, and on the infra home page. | 17:00 |
| fungi | oh! right. review code. and then review more code | 17:00 |
| jeblair | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 17:00 |
| jeblair | pleia2: thanks for all the changes! :) | 17:01 |
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| jeblair | fungi, mordred: are you guys on the same page wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48064/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50198/ ? | 17:02 |
| mordred | jeblair: ignore mine for now, let fungi's land, and hten I'll go back and fix mine | 17:03 |
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| fungi | note that "mine" is really also mordred's, it's just been festering in my change bucket since it was previously reverted on a minor parsing issue | 17:04 |
| fungi | and then subsequently reworked/adjusted/rebased as needed due to subsequent re-reviews | 17:04 |
| fungi | though 50198 is merely the d-g part which got broken out from it | 17:05 |
| fungi | and i still agree with the general sentiment from 50198, that mirror selection logic should ultimately move out of d-g itself in favor of reusing select-mirror.sh instead | 17:06 |
| fungi | er, general sentiment from 48064 i mean | 17:06 |
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| jeblair | fungi: when does DEVSTACK_GATE_REQS_INTEGRATION=1 and ZUUL_PROJECT!=openstack/requirements ? | 17:07 |
| fungi | jeblair: when the requirements-integration job gets run for changes to pbr, jeepyb, pypi-mirror, et cetera | 17:08 |
| fungi | jeblair: calling context is in https://review.openstack.org/41256 | 17:09 |
| jeblair | fungi: got it, thx | 17:10 |
| fungi | not 100% sure i got it right (or necessarily completely grasped what you were asking for) but that's a first stab at any rate | 17:10 |
| mordred | fungi, jeblair: btw, I thinkn this is actually ready for review now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48803/8 | 17:10 |
| mordred | fungi, jeblair: and I bring it up because it's related to general thinking about mirror selectoin and select-mirror.sh | 17:11 |
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| mordred | if you look at the build logs, I turned on debug output, so you can (if you're crazy) verify for yourself that it is building both tarball and wheel mirrors, and that pbr is appropriately installing from the wheels | 17:12 |
| fungi | mordred: what are the implications on (say) ubuntu precise or rhel 6 packagers if we start requiring pip 1.4 for essentially all projects in icehouse? | 17:14 |
| mordred | fungi: none | 17:14 |
| mordred | fungi: they should be turning off the pip code in their packages | 17:14 |
| fungi | ah, right | 17:14 |
| mordred | fungi: which can be done via a simple env var in their packaging scripts | 17:14 |
| fungi | question retracted | 17:14 |
| mordred | it's a very good question | 17:15 |
| fungi | i was thinking of pip purely as a runtime dependency here, forgetting that it's special insofar as that they can ignore/remove that dependency themselves | 17:15 |
| mordred | oh, that reminds me, I need to make the patch dstufft suggested and have --single-versoin-externally-managed also turn off pip processing | 17:15 |
| mordred | fungi: yah - that was early complaint from folks | 17:15 |
| mordred | it _should_ be ok | 17:16 |
| mordred | and if it's not, it's a bug | 17:16 |
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| jeblair | sdague: your thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50242/1 would be appreciated | 17:21 |
| dstufft | mordred: alterantively only publish wheels :] | 17:22 |
| jeblair | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50317/ | 17:22 |
| * dstufft is feeling snarky | 17:22 | |
| mordred | dstufft: well... we're kinda going to half-way do that | 17:22 |
| dstufft | oh yea? | 17:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove query for closed bug 1223469 https://review.openstack.org/50414 | 17:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1223469 in cinder "Volume create tgtadmin fails with error code 22" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1223469 | 17:23 |
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| fungi | dstufft: it provides a good way for us to potentially publish/consume prereleases of libraries on pypi if the prereleases are wheels-only uploads, since old pip won't see them and new pip will treat them as not-a-release-version | 17:24 |
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| dstufft | oh right | 17:24 |
| mordred | dstufft: what fungi said | 17:24 |
| dstufft | I forgot about that | 17:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: I discovered the -B flag to git checkout over the weekend | 17:26 |
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| clarkb | ooh that looks useful | 17:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: which does a checkout of the branch and then a reset of it to the target | 17:26 |
| mordred | so - git checkout -B foo origin/master will create a new branch called foo if it doesn't exist, change to it if it does, and in both cases will reset it to be the same as origin/master | 17:27 |
| jeblair | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49894/ | 17:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: excellent. do we want to squash those two, or leave them as two? | 17:29 |
| jeblair | mordred, clarkb, fungi: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50187/ ? when that merges, i can take another shot at running the gearman bursting code in production | 17:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: leave as is; i just aprvd your change it's based on | 17:29 |
| mordred | jeblair: oh - the parent is already aprvd | 17:30 |
| mordred | gotcha | 17:30 |
| jeblair | mordred: thought you might want to review it though since it's very similar | 17:30 |
| clarkb | jeblair: looking | 17:30 |
| clarkb | I think I am going to spin up a new etherpad-dev afterall. The DB stuff is already done I just need to spin up the host and flip over DNS | 17:30 |
| clarkb | and I can do that without scheduling an outage | 17:30 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Provide a more generic run-tox.sh. https://review.openstack.org/43145 | 17:34 |
| pleia2 | hmm, is gerrit not sending emails or is it just me that's broken? | 17:39 |
| jeblair | clarkb, mordred, fungi: ^ that change (43145) could break everything, so, uh, heads up. :) | 17:40 |
| * fungi nods. fun! | 17:40 | |
| clarkb | jeblair: thanks I will keep my eyes open | 17:40 |
| sdague | jeblair: commented | 17:42 |
| mordred | whee | 17:45 |
| clarkb | pleia2: I seem to still be getting mail | 17:47 |
| clarkb | pleia2: this despite trying to make the mail stop >_> | 17:47 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: ok, thanks | 17:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: add user to openstack-config https://review.openstack.org/50425 | 17:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb, mordred, fungi: here's a broken job because the jenkins jobs haven't updated yet https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-neutron-python27/2221/console | 17:52 |
| mordred | jeblair: excellent | 17:53 |
| jeblair | so i think we're in the window where scripts have updated but jjb is chugging through lots of job updates | 17:53 |
| jeblair | (it will probably hit the timeout, so i'll look for that and run again manually if needed) | 17:53 |
| pleia2 | zaro: saw you're speaking at jenkins conf - cool! (a wikimedia guy asked me if your talk is worth seeing, I say "yes yes, go go!") | 17:53 |
| openstackgerrit | DennyZhang proposed a change to openstack-infra/gitdm: add user to openstack-config https://review.openstack.org/50425 | 17:54 |
| dkranz | clarkb: The gate seems a little healthier now. Do you still want to push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49466/ | 17:56 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair: Q: when nodepool is running, are you getting any sort of rate-limits back from the APIs (HP, rackspace, etc)? I only ask because I seem to get a fair bit from OpenStack | 18:02 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: lemme check | 18:02 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: do you have a traceback handy so i search for the right thing? | 18:05 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: also you know by default it tries to internally rate-limit to 1 request per second to a given provider; and that's configurable in the yaml file? | 18:06 |
| clarkb | dkranz: I am not sure. I don't think it is magically making everything better | 18:09 |
| clarkb | dkranz: but it does seem to run a little faster on rackspace nodes | 18:09 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: well, I added some code to get_console_output() and seeing some rate-limits: http://pastebin.com/ik9jN5St | 18:09 |
| dkranz | clarkb: It never merged... | 18:09 |
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| pabelanger | but, I think it might just be my code | 18:09 |
| clarkb | dkranz: right | 18:09 |
| pabelanger | however, just curious if you see anything is general | 18:09 |
| dkranz | clarkb: I was doing reviews and noticed it so wanted to know whether to +2 or if you would abandon | 18:10 |
| clarkb | dkranz: I am not sure. It was an experiment. I think having more test runs is potentially valuable but you guys would know better than me | 18:10 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: OK | 18:11 |
| clarkb | sdague: ^ do you have an opinion? | 18:11 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: i think there's a command to show you the rate limits, perhaps getting console output is more limited than 1/s. "grep rate-limit *" returns nothing in our logs. | 18:11 |
| clarkb | basically I was curious to see if we saw a linearish speedup on testing after adding more workers (we don't I didn't expect us to though) | 18:11 |
| sdague | clarkb: opinion on? | 18:12 |
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| clarkb | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49466/ it doubles the number of tempest testr workers | 18:13 |
| sdague | I could go either way on it | 18:13 |
| sdague | actually, I think we should probably be doing thread override in devstack gate instead of in tempest | 18:14 |
| sdague | now that I think about it more | 18:14 |
| sdague | so we could control which clouds / jobs got it | 18:15 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair: 2013-10-08 13:52:12.319 31811 TRACE nodepool.ProviderManager OverLimit: This request was rate-limited. (HTTP 413) | 18:15 |
| clarkb | we can do it there too | 18:15 |
| pabelanger | but ya, will check it out | 18:15 |
| pabelanger | but mostly curious | 18:15 |
| clarkb | just pass in the nproc*2 value when invoking tox | 18:15 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, mordred: the tox/unittest job changes have landed, and more recent unit test jobs seem to be running the new script which works | 18:16 |
| jeblair | https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-nova-python27/6755/console | 18:16 |
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| clarkb | hurray | 18:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb, sdague: on what basis would we decide to do nproc*2? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | jeblair: it was an experiment (with no clear indication of success) to see if more concurrent test runners would reduce test run time (eg work around non CPU blockages) | 18:18 |
| clarkb | jeblair: it appears to help on the rackspace slaves but no the hp slaves | 18:18 |
| clarkb | but minimally | 18:18 |
| jeblair | i'm wondering if it's compatible with the workload in tempest, why not have it be there? | 18:19 |
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| clarkb | because it is user configurable and special snowflakes aren't great. d-g in this case is basically a user doing config | 18:20 |
| jeblair | (i'm not keen on micro-tuning devstack slave usage; i'd at least want to know what kind of criteria we'd be using to select such an option) | 18:20 |
| clarkb | spinning up a new etherpad-dev now | 18:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so i'm very resistant to "do this on rax but not on hp"; i'm only somewhat resistant to "do this on all d-g slaves" -- however, as you know I think the more d-g diverges from what users actually run locally, the worse off we are | 18:21 |
| jeblair | so if it's a sensible default for tempest, i think we should seriously consider putting it there | 18:22 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't think we should special case the slave types | 18:22 |
| jeblair | sdague: ^ | 18:22 |
| clarkb | just noting that it helps one and not the other (but if we do double the test runners we should double them everywhere) | 18:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ok; that wasn't clear to me earlier, thanks. | 18:22 |
| clarkb | you do make a good point about if $thing is sensible for tempest then tempest should just do it | 18:23 |
| clarkb | so we should probably spend a little more time on figuring out if it is sensible | 18:23 |
| fungi | Ryan_Lane: do you have any mw plugin suggestions for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233059 | 18:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1233059 in openstack-ci "Set up governance wiki pages as read-only copies of reference repo" [High,Triaged] | 18:23 |
| sdague | yeh, I feel like unless this is a rush we should wait post summit | 18:23 |
| sdague | as I think we'll bring it up in the parallel testing talk | 18:24 |
| sdague | maybe 2* is the right model, but let's discuss it there | 18:24 |
| clarkb | sdague: wfm | 18:25 |
| dkranz | clarkb: That seems reasonable. Can you mark the patch WIP? | 18:25 |
| clarkb | dkranz: yup doing that now | 18:25 |
| clarkb | new etherpad-dev is building now | 18:28 |
| clarkb | Hope to juggle DNS after the meeting. Then we can have people really testing the new node.js and etherpad lite | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add ability to do smart backwards compat testing https://review.openstack.org/41945 | 18:37 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: yes? | 18:44 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: yes? | 18:45 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: you linked a review to me | 18:47 |
| lifeless | jeblair: with no comment or question | 18:47 |
| lifeless | 06:22 < jeblair> lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50317/ | 18:47 |
| jeblair | lifeless: would you please review that change? | 18:48 |
| lifeless | jeblair: sure thing | 18:49 |
| annegentle_ | reed: or clarkb or fungi: was Sept 23rd the last run of ATC invites sent? So Savanna which incubated 9/24 wouldn't be part of that run? | 18:49 |
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| clarkb | annegentle_: I think fungi did the listing | 18:53 |
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| jeblair | meeting time! | 19:00 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: i generated a more recent list for reed which covered up through the 26th, but did not include savanna | 19:02 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: ttx and jeblair worked with me today on an updated list of projects counting for the tc vote | 19:03 |
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| annegentle_ | fungi: okay, is it intended to include Savanna? | 19:05 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: yes | 19:05 |
| annegentle_ | fungi: ok cool | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding a Gerrit third-party testing account https://review.openstack.org/50448 | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding a Gerrit third-party testing account https://review.openstack.org/50448 | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-large-ops job https://review.openstack.org/50449 | 19:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merlijn van Deen proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Split git rev-parse --show-toplevel --git-dir on newline https://review.openstack.org/50451 | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | Curious to know if there are any further comments regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49020/ | 19:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add initial files for tripleo in the gate. https://review.openstack.org/49454 | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 19:51 |
| anteaya | ttx: if you are still around, any thoughts on when I would find one of these for Icehouse? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule | 19:51 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: nodepool isn't auto-updated right now, so the nodepool portion of that won't immediately take effect | 19:51 |
| anteaya | I personally am interested in the dates for feature freeze, if you know what they are yet | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: I think the release schedule is hashed out during the summit | 19:51 |
| anteaya | pleia2: \o/ | 19:51 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 19:52 |
| anteaya | then no, no answer for me yet | 19:52 |
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| pleia2 | jeblair: ok, do we need to schedule a time for that, or does it take place at an interval..? | 19:52 |
| ttx | anteaya: I confirm what pleia2 said. I should start working on it though. | 19:53 |
| anteaya | ttx don't want to rush you | 19:53 |
| anteaya | just trying to figure out the best dates for opw interns | 19:53 |
| ttx | need to book my ski vacation first | 19:53 |
| anteaya | the ff tends to halt their work | 19:53 |
| anteaya | ah yes, priorities | 19:54 |
| anteaya | book book book | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix parsing gearman status https://review.openstack.org/50187 | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: I think we have 3 ~7 week milestone cycles | 19:54 |
| clarkb | the last one ends in feature freeze | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | at the very least you should be able to guestimate what ttx will come up with :) | 19:54 |
| anteaya | yeah though I thought for grizzly the one over christmas was 6 weeks long | 19:54 |
| * anteaya tries waving her hand | 19:55 | |
| anteaya | the 17th, what do you know? | 19:55 |
| clarkb | I am removing the old etherpad-dev DNS records now | 19:55 |
| anteaya | so November 14th is the kick off for Icehouse? | 19:56 |
| ttx | always scary when the last test to complete is the unit tests for python 2.6: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ (top of gate) | 19:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add read-only tracking superproject for OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/50212 | 19:58 |
| ttx | ar ethose really taking 45 minutes ? | 19:58 |
| klrmn | lifeless: can you give me some idea what to expect from TestResourceManager in the even that make(), clean() or _reset() throws an exception? does it matter what test runner is being used? | 19:58 |
| ttx | anteaya: the kick-off for Icehouse was last week | 19:58 |
| anteaya | ah | 19:59 |
| ttx | anteaya: except for swift where the RC1 is not out yet, probably tomorrow there | 19:59 |
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| lifeless | klrmn: hmm, I don't know - thats about 8 years old now. | 19:59 |
| anteaya | okay I will count again from October 3 | 19:59 |
| lifeless | klrmn: if your test environment fails horribly, I'd expect the runner to bail out | 19:59 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: is swift 1.10.0 or 1.9.0 for havana? | 20:00 |
| notmyname | anteaya: 1.10.0 | 20:00 |
| ttx | anteaya: it's an art | 20:00 |
| clarkb | new etherpad-dev records created. DNS should shake those out in a bit. I am going to find lunch while I wait | 20:00 |
| ttx | annegentle_: 1.10.0 | 20:00 |
| annegentle_ | thanks ttx and notmyname | 20:00 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: I have to be on the road at the time of the project meeting, but I did want to remind people to work on release notes, the doc team did some divvying up and will help | 20:00 |
| anteaya | ttx yes, I do hope to learn more at the summit, oh wise one | 20:00 |
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| jog0 | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50449/ | 20:01 |
| jog0 | I guess we don't run new jobs against config | 20:01 |
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| anteaya | notmyname: sorry I didn't acknowledge, thanks | 20:02 |
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| klrmn | lifeless: perhaps i should read the code =) | 20:03 |
| lifeless | klrmn: it's pretty simple | 20:04 |
| lifeless | klrmn: so that might indeed be an idea :) | 20:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update official list of ATC-qualifying projects https://review.openstack.org/50468 | 20:13 |
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| fungi | jog0: if i understand your question, nope. we'd need to spin up a throwaway ci infrastructure stack to really do that effectively | 20:16 |
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| anteaya | ttx I see you said in the meeting channel that Havana PTLs are still in their seats | 20:23 |
| anteaya | I thought that the new round of PTLs are in their chairs as of last Thursday/Friday | 20:24 |
| anteaya | so I'm wrong (what's new) | 20:24 |
| anteaya | when do new PTLs get in the seats? | 20:24 |
| ttx | PTLs are linked to a release cycle | 20:26 |
| ttx | I don't want to teach the new ones their job in the last week | 20:26 |
| ttx | anteaya: They are in their seats already. Except that the two cycles overlap :) | 20:27 |
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| reed | annegentle_, savanna is not part of the previous releases so no ATC invites for them | 20:28 |
| annegentle_ | reed: ah ok | 20:29 |
| reed | will savanna have its own track at the design summit? | 20:29 |
| dstufft | mordred: clarkb have you seend any 503 or timeout errors from pypi in the last day or so | 20:29 |
| reed | indeed | 20:29 |
| reed | annegentle_, so probably that's a bug in our process | 20:30 |
| reed | will talk to ttx tomorrow about it (I'm in Europe) | 20:30 |
| anteaya | ttx: okay, heads up then if you need to emit a clarifier at the kick off of the project meeting | 20:31 |
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| annegentle_ | reed: it does, but I think it's lumped in with others | 20:31 |
| anteaya | I may have caused some confusion for you amongst the PTLs | 20:31 |
| annegentle_ | reed: oh in Europe! Cool. Any chance you can get that blog post up? | 20:32 |
| annegentle_ | reed: (just since it has a deadline in the request) | 20:32 |
| annegentle_ | reed: it's formatted for WordPress | 20:32 |
| reed | annegentle_, which one? | 20:32 |
| annegentle_ | reed: just emailed it a bit ago | 20:32 |
| reed | oh | 20:32 |
| reed | :) that's why | 20:32 |
| annegentle_ | reed: if it's really late for you though it's ok | 20:33 |
| * fungi is going to go grab some grub for a bit, and will then bbl | 20:33 | |
| reed | sure, I'm waiting for my tea to cool down | 20:33 |
| ttx | reed: I think they should be included, because there will be a savanna track | 20:34 |
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| ttx | reed: we are including them in the TC elections list fwiw | 20:34 |
| ttx | but I agree the timing between incubation status and sending invites is a bit tricky | 20:35 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: okay, for now I just disabled rate_limit for me, but will see about adding in retry support for nodepool | 20:38 |
| pabelanger | that seems to work for now | 20:38 |
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| * reed grawls | 20:40 | |
| reed | any other project whose contributors need to be invited besides Savanna? | 20:40 |
| anteaya | try not to get dirty | 20:40 |
| anteaya | grawling sounds like dirty work | 20:40 |
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| reed | anteaya, really? | 20:41 |
| * anteaya offers a hard hat and safety glasses | 20:41 | |
| reed | no, really, that's a serious English question | 20:41 |
| anteaya | yeah, I would want my coveralls and safety boots if I am to grawl | 20:41 |
| anteaya | I don't know what it means | 20:41 |
| * reed fires up the web to find out | 20:41 | |
| anteaya | but that's how it sounds to me | 20:42 |
| reed | annegentle_, don't you have an account on the blog where you can draft the post yourself? just asking | 20:42 |
| anteaya | ew, I just saw the urban dictionary | 20:42 |
| anteaya | I would turn down that work all together | 20:42 |
| anteaya | not even coveralls and safety boots would convince me | 20:42 |
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| reed | ewww | 20:44 |
| anteaya | I wonder if you meant grok | 20:44 |
| anteaya | grok might be what you meant | 20:44 |
| reed | I misspelled it, should have said growl http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=growl (first two meanings) | 20:44 |
| anteaya | TIL | 20:44 |
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| reed | but OMG, urbandic is a trove of weird meanings | 20:45 |
| anteaya | I am not reading any more urban dictionary today | 20:45 |
| anteaya | just ew | 20:46 |
| reed | anteaya, thanks for the heads up though | 20:46 |
| anteaya | yeah, a really great conversation happened | 20:46 |
| reed | definitely I won't gr[a|o]wl anymore in public :) | 20:46 |
| anteaya | good idea | 20:46 |
| reed | lol | 20:46 |
| * anteaya heads for her suitcases to pack | 20:46 | |
| reed | I will instead explicitly mention "cookie monster vocals" | 20:47 |
| anteaya | hey that works | 20:47 |
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| clarkb | dstufft: I haven't but I haven't been looking too closely | 20:54 |
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| dstufft | clarkb: ok, was just wondering, Fastly said rollout should be done or near done by now so they should be gone and were asking to confirm | 20:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add etherpad-dev to cacti server. https://review.openstack.org/50478 | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | if we can get that in that would be great. I am going to fiddle with the load testing program now | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | dstufft: we could artificially create some load by running the requirements pbr install test thing | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add etherpad-dev to cacti server. https://review.openstack.org/50478 | 21:08 |
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| mgagne | answering my own question I asked hours ago: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CommonImageProperties | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | woot I got etherpad-dev to fall over (apache MaxClients did it) | 21:24 |
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| dstufft | clarkb: that'd be cool | 21:32 |
| scairbus | Is there any documentation available on hooking gerrit up to github with jeepyb? I can get it all setup and compiled, but don't see anything about what the next steps are | 21:37 |
| scairbus | I want to sync an existing project from github into gerrit, what I've read seems to only cover setting up a new project | 21:39 |
| clarkb | scairbus: jeepyb can only sync when creating a new project. It doesn't sync after that | 21:39 |
| scairbus | hmm, ok thanks! | 21:40 |
| clarkb | well maybe that isn't entirely true since mordred just added a thing | 21:40 |
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| mordred | clarkb: what did I do? | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-large-ops job https://review.openstack.org/50449 | 21:41 |
| clarkb | scairbus: mordred did just add a thing to jeepyb (like literally yesterday and may not be merged yet) that will fetch refs and shove them into gerrit's git | 21:41 |
| clarkb | but it only fetches it doesn't try to do anything beyond that | 21:41 |
| fungi | scairbus: after that, what we do is have gerrit replicate forcibly into github to overwrite the contents there, and run a bot to periodically close github pull requests with instructions for submitting to gerrit | 21:41 |
| scairbus | so I could potentially migrate over then? | 21:42 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. we can mirror and track an 'upstream' repo with jeepyb (patch not landed yet) | 21:42 |
| mordred | scairbus: the model I'm using it for looks something like this | 21:42 |
| mordred | project X has a locatoin, let's call it github/X | 21:42 |
| mordred | I make a repo in my gerrit, and I tell it to sync from github/X | 21:42 |
| mordred | with jeepyb | 21:43 |
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| mordred | jeepyb, every time manage-projects is run, fetches all refs and branches from github/X and pushes them to the gerrit repo | 21:43 |
| mordred | I leave those branches alone, but they are a source I can do stuff with that's in gerrit | 21:43 |
| mordred | then, I make additional branches in my gerrit, say product/master | 21:44 |
| mordred | and I do my dev on that | 21:44 |
| mordred | and from time to time, I merge from master (which is synced from github/X) to product/master | 21:44 |
| mordred | the result of which is a merge commit to be reviewed in gerrit | 21:44 |
| scairbus | ok cool | 21:44 |
| mordred | against the product/master branch - but NOT code reviews for any of the patches that are being pulled in from github/X | 21:44 |
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| mordred | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35535/ | 21:45 |
| mordred | scairbus: there is the patch that implements sane versions of that | 21:45 |
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| scairbus | great, thanks. I'll keep an eye out for that. | 21:46 |
| scairbus | I'll play around with a test repo in the meantime and see if it'll work for us | 21:47 |
| mordred | scairbus: does the thing above sound like something along the lines of what you were looking for then? | 21:47 |
| mordred | neat! | 21:47 |
| scairbus | yeah, I think so | 21:47 |
| mordred | excellent | 21:47 |
| mordred | scairbus: there is an option in the projects.yaml file | 21:48 |
| mordred | for you to be able to add a prefix to the branch names | 21:48 |
| mordred | so the other way you could organize | 21:48 |
| mordred | is to set target_prefix = upstream | 21:48 |
| mordred | and then when manage-projects pushes the branches, it will push to upstream/$branchname | 21:48 |
| mordred | so if you were to use this to mirror nova, for instance, you'd get upstream/master, upstream/stable/grizzly etc | 21:48 |
| mordred | so that you can do your dev locally on master and merge from upstream/master - if that makes more sense to your brain | 21:49 |
| scairbus | yeah, that could help | 21:49 |
| mordred | I'm trying to push a model internally where we treat openstack/nova:master as identical, and then put each prodcut divergence into its own branching namespace | 21:49 |
| mordred | but hte tool supports both models | 21:49 |
| scairbus | cool, I'll play around and see which one works better for us. thanks! | 21:50 |
| mordred | speaking of ... | 21:51 |
| mordred | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35535/ | 21:51 |
| clarkb | initial etherpad-dev load testing is :/ first immediate problem is apache can only handle 256 concurrent connections | 21:52 |
| clarkb | I can bump MaxClients in apache | 21:52 |
| mordred | scairbus: upstream-prefix: upstream - not target_prefix - it's in the comments... | 21:52 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I has question ... | 21:52 |
| scairbus | ok cool thanks | 21:52 |
| mordred | clarkb: since it's on top of cloud dbs now ... | 21:52 |
| clarkb | but we also seem to run into load problems when apache fills up its queues. Not sure if apache or node at fault there | 21:52 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I don't know | 21:53 |
| mordred | how terrible does it get if you spin up more than one etherpad, load balance it, and point them all at the same db | 21:53 |
| mordred | (like, is there any local state that's stored not in db?) | 21:53 |
| clarkb | mordred: I figured that was the question and I don't know | 21:53 |
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| mordred | clarkb: nod | 21:53 |
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| clarkb | mordred: a github issue from 2 years ago says you cannot load balance individual pads because of the way etherpad lite buffers stuff in memory (local state) | 21:56 |
| clarkb | https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/357 | 21:56 |
| fungi | but lb on a hash of the url should work fine, i expect | 21:56 |
| clarkb | getting in the ~180 client range is enough to make etherpad-dev fall over | 21:56 |
| clarkb | fungi: yeah, but all of my testing has been against a single pad so far | 21:57 |
| fungi | distribute on something along the lines of int(url)%nodes | 21:57 |
| clarkb | so it may work, but not help | 21:57 |
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| fungi | ahh, right, so if you want to scale up the number of clients interacting with a single pad, agreed it doesn't help you much | 21:57 |
| clarkb | https://bitbucket.org/rbraakman/etherpad-stresstest is what I am running (note the readme isn't correct you need to qmake then make) if other folks want to try it. | 21:58 |
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| fungi | though in the dev sessions i was in at previous summits i don't think i ever saw anything around/beyond 50 clients connected to a pad at any point in time. it might gave also been breaking though, for all i know | 21:58 |
| clarkb | I am running one more set of clients for 5 minutes then will probably start doing code review | 21:58 |
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| clarkb | fungi: yeah I think ~30 total clients with maybe 1/3 of that actually adding content is tpyical per session | 21:59 |
| clarkb | then we run about 10 of those concurrently | 21:59 |
| jeblair | hang on | 21:59 |
| jeblair | 21:53 < clarkb> initial etherpad-dev load testing is :/ first immediate problem is apache can only handle 256 concurrent connections | 21:59 |
| jeblair | 21:54 < clarkb> I can bump MaxClients in apache | 21:59 |
| * fungi hangs on | 21:59 | |
| jeblair | clarkb: did you do that? | 21:59 |
| clarkb | jeblair: no | 21:59 |
| jeblair | clarkb: apache does not come tuned out of the box for any particular app... | 22:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: the best way to look at maxclients is that it's protection for your app | 22:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so you should set it to a value that's appropriate | 22:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (and the related Max values) | 22:00 |
| clarkb | ok I will fiddle with those values. I think we need >1 connection per client | 22:02 |
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| jog0 | so I just realized i haven't gotten a gerrit email since this morning | 22:06 |
| jog0 | I wonder if thats me breaking some setting by accident | 22:06 |
| clarkb | jog0: pleia2 mentioned similar. I wonder if gmail went derpy | 22:06 |
| jog0 | clarkb: gmail derpy .. never! | 22:06 |
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| jog0 | I have gotten other emails recently | 22:07 |
| jeblair | jog0, pleia2: if you provide your email addresses i'll check | 22:07 |
| jog0 | joe.gordon0@gmail.com | 22:07 |
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| jeblair | mordred: you broke it | 22:07 |
| jeblair | 2013-10-08 14:49:05 1VTYav-0007Ok-0o == joe.gordon0@gmail.com R=smarthost defer (-1): error in smarthost router: no host(s) specified for domain * | 22:07 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Make gerrit email server configurable" https://review.openstack.org/50498 | 22:08 |
| mordred | jeblair: yay! | 22:08 |
| jog0 | haha and for a while I thought I was getting my review queue way down | 22:08 |
| mordred | jeblair: why did ours apply the smarthost config - wasn't that in a conditional? | 22:08 |
| mordred | <% if smarthost -%> | 22:08 |
| * mordred is angry | 22:09 | |
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| * fungi blames teh puppetz | 22:09 | |
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| mordred | seriously -what's wrong with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50498/1/modules/exim/templates/exim4.conf.erb | 22:10 |
| jeblair | mordred: does empty string eval to false? | 22:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Make gerrit email server configurable" https://review.openstack.org/50498 | 22:10 |
| jog0 | jeblair: will I get the backlog of emails? | 22:11 |
| mordred | jeblair: should I make the default value false perhaps? | 22:11 |
| jeblair | jog0: yes | 22:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Revert "Make gerrit email server configurable"" https://review.openstack.org/50500 | 22:11 |
| fungi | that is, unless gmail desides to scoff at the sudden flood of pending messages from review.o.o | 22:11 |
| jog0 | fungi: haha will let you know soon | 22:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Un-Revert "Make gerrit email server configurable" https://review.openstack.org/50501 | 22:13 |
| mordred | there it is with the default value set to false instead of to '' | 22:13 |
| jeblair | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50500/ ? | 22:13 |
| * fungi is similarly confused by duelling reviews | 22:14 | |
| mordred | jeblair: I commit --amended 50500 and got 50501 | 22:14 |
| fungi | weird | 22:15 |
| jeblair | mordred: 50500 did not come with a change id | 22:15 |
| mordred | blast. I should have manually copied it in | 22:15 |
| fungi | ahh, so it didn't. and yes, git-revert does not call the commit hook because $git_reasons | 22:15 |
| mordred | I've abandoned 50500 | 22:16 |
| mordred | 50501 is the thing I would want | 22:16 |
| jeblair | mordred: lgtm, but i'm going to let you approve it, or test it in a development puppet --environment | 22:17 |
| mordred | jeblair: k | 22:17 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm angry at ruby/puppet for not letting me write that, you know, the way it was written | 22:17 |
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| jog0 | I am getting emails again | 22:20 |
| jog0 | just a few so far | 22:21 |
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| fungi | (test in development puppet --environment on review-dev and look at the resulting exim4.conf should also work very safely) | 22:26 |
| mordred | fungi: but that involves, you know, typing and stuff | 22:30 |
| fungi | i feel for you | 22:30 |
| mordred | life is hard | 22:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Change test_queries from logical AND to OR https://review.openstack.org/50160 | 22:34 |
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| clarkb | bumping connection numbers for the worker mpm seems to help, though weird things happen when you restart apache and not etherpad | 22:44 |
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| clarkb | seems like connections may not ever make it all the way through the proxy in that case. I am poking at it some more | 22:44 |
| openstackgerrit | David Lyle proposed a change to openstack/requirements: bumping django_openstack_auth version https://review.openstack.org/50505 | 22:45 |
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| clarkb | bumping the connection limits helps. It allowed my 150 lurker with 30 writer test to run successfully. I am now running 5 * (30 lurkers and 10 writers) whcih should be more similar to the summit and that seems to be doing well | 23:01 |
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| clarkb | I am going to let those changes simmer. Feel free to hit etherpad-dev as well | 23:04 |
| clarkb | now time for some code review before the end of the day | 23:04 |
| openstackgerrit | litong01 proposed a change to openstack/requirements: module six needs to be updated to at least 1.3.0 https://review.openstack.org/50507 | 23:16 |
| mordred | oh god | 23:16 |
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| mordred | dhellmann: ping | 23:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50212/ is a lot more simple than I expected. +1 from me with questions | 23:17 |
| clarkb | I will -2 50507 if no one else does first... | 23:17 |
| mordred | Alex_Gaynor, dhellmann: we're still in requirements freeze, right? we should embargo that ^^ until icehouse opens? or? | 23:17 |
| clarkb | I think we should embargo it completely until we have a better story for requiring much newer versions of things like six | 23:18 |
| clarkb | last time we tried to bump six it caused problems all over because six is used everywhere. We need to be careful about sequencing | 23:18 |
| mordred | clarkb: well, I think the big key was that the version bump had an api conflict, no? | 23:19 |
| pleia2 | thanks re: emails :) | 23:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: answers to questions: reviewing things - dunno? If ttx proposes adding a new project to the list at some point in icehouse (say, such as savana) | 23:19 |
| clarkb | iirc it was purely version related (pip doesn't resolve them nicely) | 23:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think someone needs to be able to review that | 23:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: the changes from gerrit itself will just happen automatically | 23:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: +1 as I wrote the question I realized there are thing to review | 23:20 |
| mordred | :) | 23:20 |
| mordred | for the other - I have no idea | 23:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: for the other thing I think the new repo is valuable either wya | 23:20 |
| mordred | I think if the merge-10-at-once thing happens as a single gerrit operation, we'll only get one new commit | 23:20 |
| mordred | but yeah, I think it's still valuable | 23:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: if we don't get the entire sequence thats fine we still get something that was tested together | 23:20 |
| mordred | since what you want out of it is a sequence of valid combos | 23:20 |
| mordred | yup | 23:20 |
| mordred | ttx is going to be so happy he has one more thing to do on release day too... | 23:21 |
| * mordred may help him with it the first time | 23:22 | |
| mordred | since the first time will be in a week | 23:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: I remember the six problem now | 23:22 |
| * mordred needs to play with tag interactions - thinks that a tag of 2013.2 on the super repo should result in the corresponding release tags for the sub repos | 23:23 | |
| clarkb | mordred: we wanted an upper bound, problem is projects that had not been updated with six would pull in newer version then something with the upper bound would fail to install | 23:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: so slightly different than the proposed change here | 23:23 |
| clarkb | I think we should be ok with the lower bound | 23:23 |
| mordred | agre | 23:23 |
| mordred | still, I don't want to throw a new six version at ubuntu this close to their freeze | 23:23 |
| clarkb | ++ | 23:24 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: fungi: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48108/1 I am fine with limiting the set to the headers in the wiki (basically deprecate the other forms), did we decide that losing links in the comments that do "bug XXXXXX" was something we are ok with? | 23:27 |
| clarkb | oh hmm we seem to have two regexes now. one that captures bug foo and the other for the headers | 23:28 |
| clarkb | I guess that is an in between | 23:29 |
| fungi | yes, that was the compromise for the compromise | 23:29 |
| clarkb | gotcha /me reviews properly then. Will approve if it looks good | 23:29 |
| clarkb | it has been approved. We should see that in ~25 minutes | 23:30 |
| fungi | it was based on a request made by sdague some weeks back | 23:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Limit bug links in Gerrit to recommended headers https://review.openstack.org/48108 | 23:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Updated api.yaml for the netconn-api v1.0 and v2.0 refs - pom location changed https://review.openstack.org/49030 | 23:38 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove tuskarclient pylint job. https://review.openstack.org/49965 | 23:44 |
| lifeless | who can I pester for some second +2's ? | 23:45 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: me. You just got one (gerritlib change) | 23:45 |
| lifeless | clarkb: cool! https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/4190 | 23:45 |
| lifeless | clarkb: has a raft of others with a ./ already | 23:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/gerritlib: Allow ctrl-Cing gerritlib programs. https://review.openstack.org/49333 | 23:46 |
| jog0 | ^ woot! | 23:50 |
| uvirtbot | jog0: Error: "woot!" is not a valid command. | 23:50 |
| mordred | soren: I vote for # as a control character | 23:51 |
| jog0 | what does uvirtbot do anyway? | 23:51 |
| clarkb | jog0: it gives you bug titles and links | 23:52 |
| clarkb | bug #1234567 | 23:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1234567 in mailman "Czech catalog bug" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234567 | 23:52 |
| jog0 | ohh right that thing | 23:52 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Document bootstrapping of Gerrit ACLs. https://review.openstack.org/45011 | 23:52 |
| jog0 | I am glad to see the Xzech catalog for mailman is fixed | 23:53 |
| jog0 | Czech | 23:53 |
| fungi | for us, spews details/links for lp and bz bugs | 23:53 |
| fungi | laaaaaaaag whee! | 23:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Document spinning up a derived zuul. https://review.openstack.org/45164 | 23:53 |
| lifeless | mordred: I need a hand in my pbr patches | 23:56 |
| lifeless | mordred: there is this xattr failure in check, and I have NFI why | 23:56 |
| mordred | lifeless: I'm going to blame ... uhm ... evil | 23:56 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I just rechecked it thinking that the problem was with the pypi CDN which should be better now | 23:57 |
| clarkb | I could be terribly wrong | 23:57 |
| lifeless | isn't pbr using the mirror ? | 23:57 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Docs on bringing up Jenkins in new infrastructures. https://review.openstack.org/45216 | 23:57 |
| lifeless | mordred: this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48803/ confuses me | 23:58 |
| clarkb | lifeless: not the raw install job | 23:58 |
| lifeless | clarkb: -oh- | 23:58 |
| clarkb | unless I am completely mistaken (keeping up is hard) | 23:58 |
| fungi | clarkb: and there are more changes up to change that again ;) | 23:58 |
| clarkb | fungi: I have basically decided I will do my best to review and keep up with what I can then refresh my cache on demand for $issues | 23:59 |
| clarkb | problem now is knowing when my brain cache needs flushing | 23:59 |
| lifeless | when it ihurts | 23:59 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm trying to switch to the "start the review" method, but i'm still too underwater to see it make a difference yet | 23:59 |
| fungi | er, "star the review" | 23:59 |
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