| mordred | fifieldt: yeah - I'd love if we can reach out and fix it on their side instead of hammering down on them - I'm happy that they're setting something up and all | 00:00 |
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| fifieldt | ok, I might send an email to a few of you with a bilingual speaker CCd (someone who also works for IBM) | 00:02 |
| mordred | coolio | 00:02 |
| * fungi notices talkings | 00:02 | |
| mordred | look! it's a fungi! | 00:02 |
| * fifieldt ducks | 00:02 | |
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| fungi | cyeoh said he'd reached out to jishaomei asking to shut it off (they apparently used their own contributor account to report back as a third-party testing system, and seem to have a very limited grasp of english or else don't read instructions and don't reply on mailing list threads they start) | 00:06 |
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| fifieldt | yes, last I heard he had already done that to no avail | 00:07 |
| fifieldt | I'll CC him too :) | 00:07 |
| fungi | last i saw on the ml, which was before the auto-comments began, was that krtaylor was going to help them out | 00:07 |
| fungi | well, i think cyeoh didn't expect to hear back until chinese business hours | 00:07 |
| fifieldt | oh, this was yesterday? | 00:07 |
| fungi | 11:10 <cyeoh> ogelbukh: yes I suspect so, hopefully should stop within 12 hours (the person I think it is went home about an hour ago) | 00:08 |
| fifieldt | coolo | 00:08 |
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| fifieldt | I guess I'll wait a while then | 00:09 |
| * fifieldt is awake and working for next hours anyway | 00:09 | |
| fungi | i figure a few more hours at this point can't hurt, and if it continues past that we can consider something more drastic | 00:09 |
| fifieldt | ook | 00:09 |
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| fungi | i'm just hesitant to disable that account because it's a code contributor account, not only one for an automated system | 00:10 |
| fifieldt | indeed | 00:10 |
| fungi | but, maybe it would more readily get their attention if they couldn't push any new patches | 00:10 |
| fifieldt | yes, but maybe after a few hours, as you say :) | 00:10 |
| fungi | mordred: so the dependent stack of three jeepyb changes starting with https://review.openstack.org/59084 addresses the manage-projects refactor, or are there other patches which also go along with those? | 00:12 |
| mordred | fungi: the gerritlib patch | 00:13 |
| mordred | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/59105 | 00:14 |
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| fifieldt | anyway, I have an email good to go for a few hours if we need it | 00:15 |
| fungi | got it--saw you mention it but hadn't looked yet so didn't realize it was related | 00:15 |
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| fungi | fifieldt: okay, awesome | 00:15 |
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| mordred | fungi: the gerritlib one is easy. and I think once it lands we should cut another gerritlib | 00:23 |
| fungi | okay | 00:25 |
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| mordred | the other ones - the first two are going to be annoying to review because of code moves/shifts | 00:27 |
| mordred | but they _shouldn't_ do much different functionality-wise | 00:28 |
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| fungi | mordred: hah, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256138 is amusing (pbr taking its own version from the version override in the calling environment) | 00:43 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1256138 in pbr "OSLO_PACKAGE_VERSION affects pbr's own egg version" [Undecided,New] | 00:43 |
| mordred | hahahahahahaha | 00:52 |
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| fungi | i imagine an ouroboros buried somewhere deep in pbr's version handling routines | 00:59 |
| clarkb | there is a pbr windows bug that looks fun too | 01:02 |
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| zul | fungi: ping still around? | 02:02 |
| fungi | zul: yep | 02:03 |
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| zul | fungi: suppose you couldnt get the /var/log/libvirt/libvirtd.log when that happens as well cant you? | 02:04 |
| fungi | zul: i build another vm and run it again i suppose | 02:05 |
| fungi | er, i can | 02:05 |
| zul | fungi: cool thanks | 02:05 |
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| fungi | zul: as luck would have it, i hadn't deleted that vm yet anyway | 02:10 |
| zul | fungi: sweet | 02:10 |
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| fifieldt | mordred, fungi - you want me to send that email now regarding jishaomei? | 02:38 |
| pabelanger | Reading http://ci.openstack.org/jeepyb.html#launchpad-bug-integration doesn't give any information about what the ~/.launchpadlib/creds format should be for the launchpad integration. Any pointers? | 02:38 |
| fifieldt | see notify_impact.py for an example | 02:39 |
| fungi | fifieldt: if it' stiff going on, i suppose so | 02:39 |
| fifieldt | ok | 02:39 |
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| fungi | er, if it's still going on | 02:39 |
| fifieldt | it was 30mins ago | 02:39 |
| fifieldt | sent, anyway | 02:41 |
| fungi | k. if it continues, i can clear the ssh key to stop it and hopefully get some more immediate attention | 02:41 |
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| fifieldt | I got an immediate response from daisy | 02:43 |
| fifieldt | s/I/we | 02:43 |
| pabelanger | okay, looks like launchlib generates it on first run | 02:44 |
| fungi | pabelanger: i believe when launchpadlib is imported, it spawns a browser to interactively log you in through openid and caches the creds there | 02:44 |
| pabelanger | fungi, Yup, you are correct | 02:44 |
| fungi | ahh, yup | 02:44 |
| pabelanger | thanks | 02:44 |
| fungi | fifieldt: great! | 02:44 |
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| cyeoh | fifieldt: hi | 02:53 |
| fifieldt | hi cyeoh | 02:53 |
| cyeoh | fifieldt: are you talking about the gerrit postings by jishaomei? | 02:53 |
| fifieldt | yessir | 02:53 |
| cyeoh | ok so I've tracked them down - it is a CI system that has been accidentally posting updates | 02:54 |
| cyeoh | it should be turned off now (if not then very soon) | 02:54 |
| fifieldt | brilliant | 02:54 |
| fifieldt | might want to also reply to that email to daisy with what you've got | 02:55 |
| cyeoh | they weren't aware that their system was posting messages | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | happens :) | 02:55 |
| cyeoh | ah, just saw the email. I'll reply. | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | cheers | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | I think we'll still need help | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | with the official request | 02:55 |
| fifieldt | for an account | 02:55 |
| pabelanger | [2013-11-28 21:51:18,278] INFO com.google.gerrit.common.ChangeHookRunner : hook[patchset-created] output: update-bug: error: unrecognized arguments: --is-draft false --topic temp/demo | 02:56 |
| pabelanger | looks like gerrit 2.5 adds some additional flags | 02:56 |
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| cyeoh | fifieldt: np. Yea I'm not sure what the status is of that request | 02:56 |
| fifieldt | because last I spoke to mikal, they were still harassing him directly | 02:56 |
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| fifieldt | so that all needs to be explained | 02:57 |
| fifieldt | and it's probably best done in chinese | 02:57 |
| fifieldt | :) | 02:57 |
| fifieldt | thread's linked from the email if you want to read it | 02:57 |
| cyeoh | unfortunately I can't do the chinese bit :-) But I did send her an email asking her to keep her email messages on the mailing list | 03:01 |
| cyeoh | if they're continuing to occur, please let me know (and feel free to ping me if anything else like this crops up in the future) | 03:02 |
| fifieldt | cheers cyeoh | 03:03 |
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| fifieldt | nothing's merged in the last hour | 03:03 |
| fifieldt | so we'll have to wait a bit | 03:03 |
| cyeoh | yea - I only managed to get through about 20 mins ago and they are working on it now, so hopefully won't see any more. | 03:04 |
| fifieldt | btw fungi, that "welcome message" code is up for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58900/ -- I think it will fail spectacularly, to be honest. Is there a way we can test it aside from me setting up my own gerrit? | 03:04 |
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| fungi | fifieldt: we can adjust it to only get applied to review-dev and exercise it there | 03:07 |
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| fifieldt | yes, I think it's going to need that | 03:07 |
| fifieldt | ok, well I'll wait for the code review and fix it up based on feedback, then submit the patch to config for review-dev | 03:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tom Fifield proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Add script to post a gerrit welcome message https://review.openstack.org/58900 | 03:12 |
| fifieldt | updated the commit message to reflect that | 03:12 |
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| Daisy | Hi, Lin | 03:22 |
| lianglin | Hi Daisy | 03:23 |
| lianglin | anything I can do? | 03:23 |
| Daisy | fifieldt: are you there? | 03:23 |
| Daisy | Let's ask. | 03:23 |
| fifieldt | yes Daisy, I'm here | 03:23 |
| Daisy | lianglin is colleague of Shao Mei | 03:23 |
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| fifieldt | hi lianglin :) | 03:23 |
| Daisy | They want to know if they need to recover those patches they affected. | 03:24 |
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| Daisy | Who can help? | 03:24 |
| lianglin | hi fifieldt | 03:24 |
| fifieldt | it's actually OK, I believe | 03:24 |
| fifieldt | it just posted an extra message | 03:24 |
| fifieldt | but didn't affect anything | 03:24 |
| fifieldt | fungi might still be awake | 03:24 |
| fifieldt | fungi, lianglin is a colleague of Shao Mei | 03:25 |
| fifieldt | fungi is my colleague at the OpenStack Foundation, working on the infrastructure | 03:25 |
| lianglin | I saw there is a blank review record in the patch set - is it ok? | 03:25 |
| fifieldt | lianglin, yes - for example if we look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58792/ , there's just this message: | 03:25 |
| Daisy | They have disconnected from openstack CI system. | 03:25 |
| fifieldt | Patch Set 3: | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | Starting gate jobs. http://172.16.2.118/status | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | it doesn't vote | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | and the patch goes on to merge OK | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | so we don | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | t | 03:26 |
| lianglin | that would be good | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | need to do any recovery I think | 03:26 |
| lianglin | very sorry about the accident :P | 03:26 |
| fifieldt | it's OK :) | 03:26 |
| fungi | yes, it wasn't causing any direct harm, it was just being noisy | 03:26 |
| lianglin | :) | 03:27 |
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| lianglin | we don't know the result post back -we're in testing now | 03:27 |
| fifieldt | I think the infrastructure team also has review-dev.openstack.org, which you could use for further testing if you wish | 03:27 |
| fifieldt | but I'm not an expert in that :) | 03:27 |
| lianglin | we're building our own CI infrastructure | 03:28 |
| lianglin | to test features like DB2/QPID support | 03:28 |
| fifieldt | it sounds like a good plan | 03:28 |
| fungi | several developers had brought it to our attention, so just wanted it silenced unless it had test results to report | 03:28 |
| fungi | thanks for taking care of it | 03:29 |
| lianglin | yes a changed made to zuul now | 03:29 |
| fifieldt | yes, thanks for working so quickly | 03:29 |
| lianglin | it won't post result again | 03:29 |
| lianglin | I need to thanks Chris and Daisy notify... | 03:29 |
| lianglin | we don't know the result post back... | 03:30 |
| fifieldt | I've made a similar mistake on another project before :) | 03:30 |
| fungi | we welcome posting results, so long as they're actually results | 03:30 |
| fifieldt | indeed, that's true | 03:30 |
| fifieldt | fungi, do you know the status of the system account request? | 03:30 |
| Daisy | Thank fifieldt for bringing it up. | 03:31 |
| fifieldt | based on the mailing list, it looks like the request for the system account is still pending | 03:31 |
| lianglin | we're pending on the CLA internal | 03:32 |
| fifieldt | I think we need to communicate that the need for the account is "DB2/QPID support testing" | 03:32 |
| fifieldt | oh, right :) | 03:32 |
| fifieldt | as long as we're not preventing you from making progress | 03:32 |
| lianglin | well use a functional ID instead | 03:32 |
| fifieldt | cool | 03:32 |
| lianglin | instead shaomei's personal account | 03:32 |
| fifieldt | sounds like everything is 100% ok then :) | 03:32 |
| lianglin | unit test part looks ok now | 03:33 |
| fungi | fifieldt: shaomei had requested an account created to have the same e-mail address as shaomei was already using, and gerrit won't allow multiple accounts with duplicate e-mail addresses | 03:33 |
| lianglin | still need to working on the gate test | 03:33 |
| fifieldt | sounds like excellent progress, lianglin :) | 03:33 |
| lianglin | agree :) | 03:33 |
| fifieldt | if it' | 03:34 |
| fifieldt | s | 03:34 |
| fifieldt | ok, | 03:34 |
| fifieldt | I might just update the mailing list thread | 03:34 |
| fifieldt | to let the community know the status | 03:34 |
| fifieldt | unless you prefer to keep it "low profile" for now | 03:34 |
| lianglin | thank you~~~ you know I always join a wrong IRC channel for openstack-infra.. | 03:35 |
| lianglin | just back to the correct one now :P | 03:35 |
| fifieldt | ha, I do the same thing with #openstack-doc vs #openstack-docs :) | 03:35 |
| fifieldt | welcome back :) | 03:35 |
| lianglin | guys, I'll be active here | 03:35 |
| lianglin | :) | 03:35 |
| fungi | glad to have you! | 03:36 |
| lianglin | :) | 03:36 |
| lianglin | need to leave now ~ thank you guys | 03:37 |
| fifieldt | thanks lianglin, jishaomei, Daisy :) appreciate your work | 03:37 |
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| jishaomei | I will build our gerrit test enviroment, and using id for our ci system test. | 03:39 |
| fifieldt | 谢谢 jishaomei 不要担心今天 ：） | 03:40 |
| fifieldt | 我们要帮你准备最好的CI系统 :) | 03:41 |
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| ArxCruz | jishaomei: do you work at IBM? | 04:13 |
| ArxCruz | jishaomei: if yes, I have puppet recipes for all CI to configure gerrit, jenkins, zuul and nodepool I can send to you later :) | 04:16 |
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| ArxCruz | well, I think I'm the only one awake at this time x) | 04:17 |
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| fifieldt | ArxCruz, I'm awake too :) | 04:19 |
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| fifieldt | and I believe the answer to your question is 'yes' | 04:20 |
| ArxCruz | fifieldt: we need a life then :) | 04:20 |
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| fifieldt | yes, yes we do :) | 04:21 |
| ArxCruz | :) | 04:21 |
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| ArxCruz | I will watch some movie and wait for sleep to come :) | 04:24 |
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| fifieldt | jishaomei, it still looks active from 5 minutes ago | 04:31 |
| fifieldt | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56878/ | 04:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Make ChangeLog more condensed https://review.openstack.org/52367 | 05:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Let git do mailmap mapping for us https://review.openstack.org/54050 | 05:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Enable wheel processing in the tests https://review.openstack.org/56817 | 05:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Clean up integration script https://review.openstack.org/56816 | 05:31 |
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| jishaomei | @fifieldt I stoped our zuul enviroment now, then it never report to comunity. | 05:39 |
| jishaomei | I will set up our internal test gerrit envirment. | 05:40 |
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| chandankumar | hello | 06:17 |
| chandankumar | How to rename a file in git? | 06:17 |
| chandankumar | when i am renaming the file, the gate is failing | 06:18 |
| chandankumar | i have renamed the file using git mv | 06:18 |
| chandankumar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58986/ | 06:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Clean up integration script https://review.openstack.org/56816 | 06:24 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Enable wheel processing in the tests https://review.openstack.org/56817 | 06:24 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/pbr: Make sphinx builders configurable in LocalBuildDoc https://review.openstack.org/57892 | 06:24 |
| ArxCruz | [02:13:58] <ArxCruz> jishaomei: do you work at IBM? | 06:26 |
| ArxCruz | [02:16:26] <ArxCruz> jishaomei: if yes, I have puppet recipes for all CI to configure gerrit, jenkins, zuul and nodepool I can send to you later :) | 06:26 |
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| lianglin | @ArxCruz, hi yes shaomei is at IBM | 06:49 |
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| jishaomei | @ArxCruz Hi,ArxCruz.thanks very much.My notes id is Shao Mei SM Ji/China/IBM and email is jishaom@cn.ibm.com.you can raech by st/email. | 07:35 |
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| * markmc is sure there was | 10:46 | |
| markmc | can't find it in the timeslider thing | 10:46 |
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| mordred | woah. that's so many patches | 14:01 |
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| sdague | mordred: silly rest of the world not celebrating 'merican holidays :) | 14:31 |
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| fungi | markmc: can you provide the link for the pad in question? apparently there was an issue with the timeslider on another pad recently after someone had accidentally deleted a bunch of content from it, and clarkb ended up using the admin api to recover a previous iteration so it could be pasted back in | 14:31 |
| markmc | fungi, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseOsloMessaging | 14:32 |
| markmc | fungi, I had to manually restore from revision 773 | 14:32 |
| markmc | fungi, timeslider doesn't seem to be working at all now | 14:33 |
| * markmc tries again | 14:33 | |
| markmc | fungi, ok, timeslider is working .. still don't see a way to revert to a revision, though | 14:34 |
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| fungi | i think i've just always cut-and-pasted from the old version into the new one. it's far from ideal, but then again it's not really designed so much as a document revision control system either | 14:36 |
| markmc | ok | 14:36 |
| markmc | I thought there might have at least been "revert to starred revision" | 14:36 |
| markmc | must be imagining it | 14:36 |
| markmc | copy-and-paste loses formatting | 14:36 |
| markmc | annoying when someone comes in and just tramples over the etherpad like that | 14:37 |
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| fungi | yes | 14:37 |
| markmc | thanks | 14:37 |
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| fungi | markmc: it's possible the "undo" button, after some number of iterations, will get you back to the state you're looking for... not sure if it only undoes your own edits or everyone's | 14:39 |
| markmc | fungi, AFAICT, it's only your own edits in this session | 14:39 |
| * markmc experiments | 14:39 | |
| markmc | yeah, seems so | 14:40 |
| fungi | unfortunate | 14:40 |
| fungi | just to confirm, the button within the etherpad interface emblazoned with an arrow going in a widdershins orientation | 14:41 |
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| fungi | and yeah, it seems to only go back one step for me in the pad i'm testing, even though i made multiple edits | 14:42 |
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| fungi | though that could be due to me starring the previous change, no idea | 14:43 |
| mordred | I was just thinking that for the next summit | 14:44 |
| mordred | or even for not summit | 14:45 |
| mordred | that we make a thing that can take the etherpad and transfer it to a wiki page for us | 14:45 |
| mordred | because etherpad is great for the real-time shared editing | 14:45 |
| mordred | but once the high bandwidth is done, wiki is really a better format for longer term storage and minor editing | 14:45 |
| fungi | the api is pretty straightforward, but yeah somewhere to capture it for longer-term async collaboration would be great | 14:46 |
| mordred | I was thinking about that from the storyboard perspective too | 14:46 |
| mordred | if you think about the idea of blueprinting | 14:46 |
| mordred | and the fact that the features of wikipedia and the features of etherpad are both features you want to use at different points in time | 14:46 |
| mordred | but also the features of bug tracking | 14:46 |
| fungi | mmm, have special tagging in an etherpad which would allow storyboard to import tasks/stories from a pad once the version is starred? | 14:46 |
| mordred | that would be neat | 14:47 |
| mordred | ttx, cody-somerville: ^^ think about the above in your brainhole too | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install requirements repo on slaves https://review.openstack.org/59191 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use requirements project list for mirror selection https://review.openstack.org/58153 | 14:48 |
| fungi | also perhaps callouts from storyboard with a "whiteboard this" button for etherpad or whatever other collaboration platform du jour | 14:48 |
| mordred | ++ | 14:48 |
| mordred | the original launchpad blueprint design overall was that the blueprint was the tracking vehicle for state | 14:48 |
| mordred | and that the bulk of the spec that was being tracked would be in a wiki somewhere | 14:48 |
| mordred | but the wiki was not integrated so the idea really sucked | 14:49 |
| fungi | sounds sort of like a kanban vision | 14:49 |
| mordred | but I think the underlying realization that there is a spec and there is the work to implement the spec | 14:49 |
| mordred | is sound | 14:49 |
| zigo | mordred: My experience at both debconf + openstack summit is that we should switch to gobby rather than etherpad! :) | 14:49 |
| mordred | heh | 14:49 |
| zigo | Hi by the way. | 14:49 |
| zigo | :) | 14:49 |
| mordred | zigo: hi! | 14:49 |
| mordred | zigo: I do not believe you will get people to switch to goby :) | 14:49 |
| zigo | mordred: Any thought on what I asked you about, for building the Debian packages within openstack-infra? | 14:50 |
| mordred | zigo: yes - I still think it's great - and I think pabelanger has gottena little further | 14:50 |
| mordred | with the holiday, I have not been able to poke at it directly myself yet | 14:50 |
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| zigo | pabelanger: Hi there! :) | 14:50 |
| zigo | mordred: Thanks giving holidays, you mean? | 14:51 |
| mordred | zigo: yes indeed | 14:51 |
| mordred | zigo: fungi may also know a little about the work pabelanger is doing | 14:51 |
| fungi | zigo: mordred: https://review.openstack.org/56107 as a starting point, yes | 14:51 |
| mordred | fungi: zigo was talking with me about potentially moving the debian packaging for openstack into infra systems | 14:51 |
| mordred | fungi: I was telling him that pabelanger was working on the structure fr us to be able to deal with packaging repos at all | 14:52 |
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| fungi | i think it probably makes sense to start with pabelanger's zuul packaging and get it to the point where we think the layout is sane | 14:52 |
| zigo | Yeah, this happened just right after 10 days of down time of alioth.debian.org which pissed me quite a bit. | 14:52 |
| zigo | Also, Alioth is reaaaaly slow. | 14:52 |
| fungi | yes, teh alioth outage is unfortunate | 14:52 |
| fungi | not to mention the recovery was less than perfect | 14:53 |
| fungi | but they did some rather amazing work recovering the db from a failed disk array (not merely degraded) | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Prykhodchenko proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adds devstack-gate tests for Ironic https://review.openstack.org/53917 | 14:54 |
| zigo | The point is, they should be using distributed storage (Ceph, anyone?), but they don't want to hear about remote storage, so it will stay dangerous. | 14:54 |
| zigo | Anyway, that's not the point. | 14:54 |
| fungi | right, there is still a lot of oldthink and old-world inertia in the infrastructure there, but i'm not sure they're closed to those ideas, it's just not what they have | 14:54 |
| zigo | My point is that I would like to start having tests on each git commits. | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use requirements project list for mirror selection https://review.openstack.org/58153 | 14:55 |
| zigo | I have that to some degree with my own infrastructure. | 14:55 |
| fungi | i think that's grand, personally | 14:55 |
| zigo | Though I would like to push this further with openstack-infra. | 14:55 |
| fungi | i want to see us not only run tests on the packaging state, but go ahead and build packages in a chroot from every iteration of it | 14:55 |
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| zigo | That's what I do using cowbuilder! | 14:56 |
| zigo | (jenkins + cowbuilder + some personal scripts) | 14:56 |
| fungi | yup, having it autorun pbuilder/cowbuilder, lintian, piuparts and so on for each commit, plus being able to review the code for commits to that, all seems great | 14:56 |
| zigo | What'd be great would be to build packages on each *upstream* commits, and run tempest with that. | 14:56 |
| zigo | I have no idea how to make this happen though, but I'd be happy to learn / help anyone. | 14:57 |
| zigo | I mean... I have no idea how to access the openstack-infra stuff... | 14:57 |
| zigo | I of course know how to build packages, run piuparts, lintian and all... | 14:58 |
| fungi | so anyway, one step at a time, the current idea is that for each project being packaged we have a code review repository with branches for each distro/release inside that | 14:58 |
| fungi | the review i linked above is where pabelanger is going to import his debian packaging for zuul so we can play with that idea and see whether it works like we expect | 14:58 |
| zigo | Oh ok. | 15:00 |
| zigo | Is the yaml something for jenkins-job-builder? | 15:01 |
| fungi | for debian/ubuntu packagers, we want to make sure that the layout is suitable for their typical git-buildpackage workflows. i'm sure the red hat/suse/et cetera crowds have some similar workflows we want to accommodate on their branches as well | 15:01 |
| fungi | that yaml is actually configuration for zuul | 15:01 |
| zigo | Ok. | 15:01 |
| fungi | right now it's just a stub which tells zuul we're not running any jobs for changes on that repo, and then we'll add some once it's imported and we're happy with the state | 15:01 |
| zigo | My workflow is described here: http://openstack.alioth.debian.org/ | 15:01 |
| fungi | but yeah, once pabelanger isn't idle in here, he can probably provide a lot more detail | 15:02 |
| sdague | fungi / mordred as you guys are active, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53879/4 I always get confused about where else I need to add a new job to get it working | 15:03 |
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| fungi | sdague: hmmm... "Job gate-grenade-devstack-vm-stable not defined" | 15:04 |
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| fungi | sdague: ahh, yes, in the projects.yaml for jenkins_job_builder | 15:04 |
| fungi | sdague: just a sec i'll get you a link | 15:05 |
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| fungi | sdague: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml#n1009 | 15:07 |
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| fungi | sdague: though i am somewhat confused as well. i think what it should need is already there | 15:09 |
| sdague | oh... I wonder if this is because that job isn't on anything yet | 15:09 |
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| fungi | well, {pipeline}-grenade-devstack-vm-stable is in the devstack-jobs group | 15:10 |
| fungi | oic | 15:10 |
| fungi | no, wait, scratch that | 15:10 |
| sdague | fungi: hmmmm | 15:10 |
| sdague | yeh, I'm confused | 15:10 |
| fungi | that group is in the jobs list for the devstack-jobs meta project | 15:11 |
| fungi | and has pipeline gate and check sections there | 15:11 |
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| sdague | fungi: ok, so I'm still confused (might be not enough coffee) as I don't see any current grenade defs over there | 15:19 |
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| fungi | yeah, i'm still due another coffee, but digging into the repo to see what else we're doing for gate-grenade-devstack-vm | 15:20 |
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| fungi | sdague: bingo! | 15:28 |
| fungi | change "job" to "job-template" and you'll be golden | 15:28 |
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| fungi | so, so, so easy to miss it was staring me in the face all along | 15:28 |
| fungi | (in devstack-gate.yaml) | 15:29 |
| sdague | oh... right :) | 15:29 |
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| fungi | seems it really WAS the lack of coffee | 15:29 |
| sdague | :) | 15:30 |
| sdague | ok, inbound | 15:30 |
| sdague | lets see what else I screwed up | 15:30 |
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| sdague | fungi: sweet, that seemed to work | 15:36 |
| mordred | fungi: I just had a terrible idea | 15:36 |
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| * sdague tries to figure out if terrible idea > exciting idea? | 15:36 | |
| fungi | mordred: terrifying, i assume | 15:37 |
| mordred | fungi: what if we could write things in zuul that would allow us to calculate/construct/inject sets of jobs for projects programatically | 15:37 |
| mordred | fungi: such as, "if a project has an entry in openstack/requirements:projects.txt, run the requirements gate job on it" | 15:37 |
| mordred | (I just noticed a project that's bounded by the mirror but doesn't use the requirements gate job is what made me think about it) | 15:38 |
| sdague | mordred: or something that at least lints the current configs and figures out there are missing jobs | 15:38 |
| sdague | I'm sure we've got some whacky missing ones in there | 15:38 |
| fungi | zuul would need to retrieve and inspect that, of course, and do we gate changes to that in with any changes to projects which are listed there as well? if so, how do we calculate that? | 15:38 |
| mordred | not sure | 15:39 |
| mordred | like I said, it's probably a terrible idea | 15:39 |
| fungi | just thinking through whether this steps into gödel incompleteness | 15:39 |
| mordred | but we _do_ have an ever increasing sea of jobs | 15:39 |
| fungi | yes, havign some means of determining which jobs to run without some giant laundry list which is prone to get stale... makes sense | 15:40 |
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| pabelanger | zigo, mordred, fungi ohai | 15:56 |
| zigo | pabelanger: Hi! | 15:56 |
| pabelanger | I'm up for a discussion about packages, but can't right now. | 15:58 |
| pabelanger | well maybe for a few minutes | 15:58 |
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| hashar | pabelanger: hi, regarding packaging all Zuul dependencies are in Debian/unstable now :] | 16:11 |
| hashar | python-gear has been accepted, should show up soon hopefully. | 16:12 |
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| pabelanger | hashar, Nice! Seen that, very cool | 16:17 |
| yolanda | mordred, jeblair, i'm going to work on the jenkins-job-builder flush cache bug. We agreed to create a ignore_cache option in jenkins_jobs.ini , and that will be used to add the --ignore-cache flag right? | 16:18 |
| hashar | pabelanger: python-gear was the remaining blocker. voluptuous version used to be but Zuul now support the version in Debian :] | 16:18 |
| pabelanger | hashar, I have start importing zuul's debian packaging into -infra, review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56107/ | 16:20 |
| pabelanger | and there is some good excitement from zigo and others to help move more debian packages into -infra :) | 16:20 |
| zigo | Yeah! | 16:21 |
| zigo | I am. | 16:21 |
| hashar | you might want a new hierarchy of gerrit projects | 16:21 |
| hashar | we put us in operations/debs/* | 16:21 |
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| hashar | pabelanger: and it seems zigo is interested in having some CI for the openstack debian packages :] | 16:22 |
| pabelanger | Indeed | 16:23 |
| hashar | I have been using a set of shell scripts for that: http://jenkins-debian-glue.org/ | 16:23 |
| pabelanger | I think the plan is to get etherpad going and do a brain dump | 16:23 |
| pabelanger | and see how best to get packages built | 16:23 |
| zigo | More accurately, I'm all for moving what I have already privately, to something better and community maintained+contributed. | 16:23 |
| hashar | if your package matches the git buildpackage conventions, that works out of the box | 16:23 |
| pabelanger | for example, I use pbuilder with my jenkins to get packages created, but that might be a lot of un-needed overhead | 16:23 |
| zigo | They do. | 16:23 |
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| zigo | I use cowbuilder... | 16:24 |
| pabelanger | Yup | 16:24 |
| zigo | And Jenkins too. | 16:24 |
| zigo | Though sbuild would be even better (that's what the buildd use). | 16:24 |
| hashar | a random example https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/view/Ops-DebGlue/job/operations-debs-pybal-debian-glue/ | 16:24 |
| hashar | and a job with lintian errors https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/view/Ops-DebGlue/job/operations-debs-wikistats-debian-glue/ | 16:25 |
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| pabelanger | hashar, Right, to looks like a bunch of us do something already today. Just a matter of picking a directly and getting it into -infra | 16:26 |
| pabelanger | One of the first tasks would be to get a debian package built, then deal with adding other checks for lint. | 16:27 |
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| pabelanger | zigo, You don't see automated upload into Debian do you? I suspect it will still be a manual upload for security reasons | 16:28 |
| zigo | pabelanger: If I do automatic upload to Debian, someone will kill me!!! | 16:28 |
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| pabelanger | Right, so the way I see that working is we can still tag a release in gerrit but a DD / DM would use the tag to sign and upload into Debian. I believe that should work | 16:29 |
| zigo | That's a working work flow. | 16:30 |
| zigo | :) | 16:30 |
| pabelanger | Nice | 16:30 |
| fungi | just for the record, that is precisely what i envisioned as well, so thumbs-up from me | 16:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add a check for file with only comments https://review.openstack.org/59090 | 16:32 |
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| pabelanger | So, I see us starting with 1 package first, likely on zuul-dev / jenkins-dev, until we work out the workflow and bugs. | 16:34 |
| pabelanger | I don't think it will take much to get a package built and working | 16:34 |
| zigo | We could work on an incubated package later on, for tests, like for example trove... | 16:34 |
| zigo | (I have that one already in Debian...) | 16:34 |
| pabelanger | Ya, JJB could be using too, that is in Debian already too | 16:35 |
| pabelanger | Either or | 16:35 |
| pabelanger | I think there is a separate discussion from -infra POV about consuming the packages (eg: packaging repo) but I think that can be worked on once we get all the build stuff addressed | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Fix for adding comments to tasks https://review.openstack.org/59051 | 16:38 |
| mordred | consuming the packages for us is purely about the infra packages | 16:39 |
| mordred | such as zuul and nodepool | 16:39 |
| zul | what about newer versions of puppet | 16:39 |
| mordred | for those, having a local reprepro repo that we publish to automatically and which our nodes are configured to consume will work great | 16:39 |
| * zul likes throwing fuel to the fire | 16:40 | |
| mordred | I don't think we really want to get into that game | 16:40 |
| mordred | it's too much | 16:40 |
| mordred | the _only_ reason we want to make packages of zuul and friends | 16:40 |
| zul | please dont :) | 16:40 |
| mordred | is because doing upgrades of trunk commits using just setuptools is not great | 16:40 |
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| mordred | and the interaction with puppet is even worse | 16:40 |
| mordred | so, for things that we install globally onto a server currently from a git checkout of master or from a pip release from repos that we own ourselves | 16:41 |
| mordred | we'd like to install from packages instead, because puppet is better at dealing with that | 16:41 |
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| mordred | but we still want to be able to track master or pip releases | 16:41 |
| mordred | depending on the project | 16:41 |
| mordred | (gerritlib latest tag is what we'd want to install, zuul master is what we'd want to install) | 16:42 |
| fungi | well, and installing those things from packages plays more nicely with the existing packages on those systems from the upstream distro (as opposed to pip stepping all over you filesystem contents) | 16:42 |
| mordred | but luckily, that is REALLY easy to encode ina local set of repos | 16:42 |
| mordred | fungi: exactly | 16:42 |
| fungi | mordred: speaking of pip, i'm still a little unclear from your comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51425/16/modules/pip/lib/puppet/provider/package/pip3.rb how it knows whether it's installing packages into paths seen by the different interpreters on the system (they are distinct) | 16:44 |
| mordred | fungi: I'm not sure I understand your question? | 16:45 |
| fungi | mordred: the point of having two pip providers is so we know which entrypoint to call specific to the interpreter we want to have those packages available | 16:46 |
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| fungi | keep in mind that we're not using the system default python interpreter for those systems where we're running python3.3 jobs | 16:48 |
| mordred | right. so | 16:49 |
| fungi | so pip needs to know to install packages into paths searched by "some other python" | 16:49 |
| mordred | pip3 calls get-pip with python3 | 16:49 |
| pabelanger | mordred, Agreed about your comments about using puppet for packaging (setuptools) | 16:50 |
| mordred | which, aiui, will install a pip tied to python3 | 16:50 |
| mordred | this does not create providers which can be installed on the same box | 16:51 |
| mordred | so your box can either have pip2 or pip3 provider | 16:51 |
| fungi | oh | 16:51 |
| mordred | because pip does not work the other way really, and our attempts to get it to without virtualenvs are fraught with peril | 16:51 |
| fungi | so that is somewhat of a step backward, but probably acceptable since as you say it wasn't really 100% supported the other way | 16:52 |
| mordred | we have pip and pip3 on the same box with the current thing? | 16:53 |
| fungi | yes, installed from deb packages | 16:53 |
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| fungi | we install the python-pip and python3-pip packages | 16:54 |
| mordred | oh. pip installed from debs | 16:54 |
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| mordred | suck | 16:54 |
| mordred | because I want to stop doing that because it's even evil-er | 16:54 |
| mordred | I hate all of this | 16:54 |
| fungi | and really, puppet kept that from being particularly workable since it won't let you install two packages with the same name via different providers (it considers them globally unique and you can't really "rename" them to work around that) | 16:54 |
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| fungi | so at any rate, i should probably spin up a precisepy3k-dev1.slave and we can test whether it's sane (if you haven't taken it that far yet) | 16:57 |
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| fungi | mordred: also, edward raigosa generously uploaded a new patchset which rebased that change and also altered the pip3_cmd search list in ways potentially incompatible with what get-pip is installing (i haven't tested it to confirm though) | 17:04 |
| mordred | fungi: well... he's actually been testing the patch internally | 17:05 |
| fungi | okay, awesome | 17:05 |
| * fungi cheers | 17:05 | |
| mordred | BUT - we shoudl do likelwise, because I do not think he's got our jenkins slaves created yet | 17:05 |
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| fungi | yeah, i think we don't have a py3k dev slave yet, but i'll confirm | 17:06 |
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| gordc | quick q for anyone, did the requirements auto-patch jobs get disabled? (i vaguely remember this being discussed at summit although i could just be dreaming that up.) | 17:08 |
| fungi | gordc: yes. there's work in progress to fix the branch awareness for that job, but it's disabled until that works correctly | 17:15 |
| gordc | fungi: cool cool. thanks for the info. | 17:16 |
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| fungi | grrr... novaclient.exceptions.OverLimit: Quota exceeded, too many key pairs. (HTTP 413) | 20:28 |
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| anteaya | that is a new one for me | 20:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ruslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Adding six dependency https://review.openstack.org/59235 | 20:46 |
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| fungi | anteaya: keypairs get generated ephemerally to communicate with launched servers. sometimes our tools fail to delete them (random api communication failures and so on) and they accumulate until we exceed the number allowed | 20:52 |
| fungi | which leads to being unable to launch a new server in a region/availability zone where that's happening | 20:53 |
| fungi | just have to go through, identify teh keypairs which really are actively in use and delete the cruft | 20:53 |
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