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| sdague | lifeless: I can approve that through. | 00:03 |
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| lifeless | sdague: cool; thanks | 00:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Pin Sphinx. https://review.openstack.org/61921 | 00:08 |
| fungi | sdague: if you are around for interrogation, i tried a similar sphinx pin on tempest stable/havana but i think something else is broken there causing discover to throw an exception and not run unit tests... suspecting there's something i need to backport from master for that but not quite sure what | 00:13 |
| sdague | fungi: that's entirely possible | 00:14 |
| sdague | review? | 00:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Copy libvirt log files after tempest run https://review.openstack.org/61892 | 00:14 |
| sdague | realize our tox is kind of weird as well... so it might not be the target you were expecting | 00:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Copy libvirt log files after tempest run https://review.openstack.org/61892 | 00:15 |
| fungi | sdague: current iteration is https://review.openstack.org/62243 because i was mislead by the missing tempest.conf message i think | 00:15 |
| fungi | i abandoned the pure sphinx pin in favor of squashing it with that as an experiment, but to no avail | 00:16 |
| sdague | so I think there is a master fix for that | 00:16 |
| sdague | the stress test thing, but dkranz might know more. He was working mkoderer_ on it | 00:16 |
| sdague | I know there was some work to resolve that recently. | 00:16 |
| fungi | okay, no worries. i'll pester them when it's not a weekend | 00:16 |
| fungi | thanks! | 00:17 |
| sdague | yeh, we also mostly don't touch our stable branches | 00:17 |
| sdague | unless someone really wants to do backports | 00:17 |
| sdague | which is probably why it wasn't noticed yet | 00:17 |
| * fungi had sort of noticed, since he was trying to backport a tox.ini patch. like pulling a loose end on a sweater | 00:17 | |
| lifeless | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60380/ since you are around | 00:18 |
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| fungi | lifeless: commented on the review, but one issue spotted. should be simple to correct | 00:32 |
| fungi | just wasn't certain what the actual intent was there | 00:32 |
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| lifeless | ah nuts | 00:33 |
| lifeless | yes I was | 00:33 |
| fungi | i assume the reason for having it spam the nova channel is that this destined for the compute program eventually | 00:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Gantt repositories. https://review.openstack.org/60380 | 00:35 |
| lifeless | its because thats a place to start | 00:35 |
| lifeless | it's intended to service all programs eventually | 00:36 |
| fungi | is the idea to have it end up elsewhere eventually? oslo? | 00:36 |
| lifeless | yes, no | 00:36 |
| lifeless | it's not a library | 00:36 |
| lifeless | it's not an HTTP API | 00:36 |
| lifeless | crack, hole, look what I found. | 00:36 |
| fungi | separate dedicated openstack program for scheduler services? | 00:36 |
| lifeless | perhaps | 00:36 |
| lifeless | for now, governance wise it's a little bit of nova | 00:37 |
| lifeless | with big ideas | 00:37 |
| fungi | nifty | 00:37 |
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| lifeless | fungi: thanks | 00:46 |
| lifeless | fungi: now to find another -core :) | 00:46 |
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| mordred | lifeless: gannt needs python-grizzly-bitrot-jobs ? | 04:08 |
| notmyname | mordred: does your browser of choice support svg? what's your opinion on serving an svg vs a jpg? | 04:14 |
| mordred | notmyname: I believe it does - and I think svg is lovely | 04:19 |
| notmyname | great :-) | 04:20 |
| mordred | notmyname: isn't IE the only thing that doesn't support svg anymore? | 04:20 |
| notmyname | doing my nightly ritual of futzing with the gate status graph. svg makes my retina display pretty | 04:20 |
| mordred | nice | 04:20 |
| notmyname | mordred: IE? infinite electronics? inline elements? I know of no such browser called "IE". I think that was a nasty rumor css gurus try to spread | 04:21 |
| mordred | hehe. | 04:21 |
| StevenK | mordred: http://caniuse.com/svg | 04:22 |
| mordred | oh neat | 04:23 |
| notmyname | mordred: if you want to see the marked difference of svg, load up http://not.mn/gate_status.html now | 04:26 |
| notmyname | tell me when you have it up | 04:26 |
| mordred | k. up | 04:26 |
| notmyname | mordred: now reload it | 04:27 |
| mordred | pretty | 04:27 |
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| notmyname | I'm still trying to get the left/right numbers the way I like them. I may try switching the sides next (% on right, gate depth on left) | 04:28 |
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| notmyname | mordred: do you know if graphite.o.o uses memcache? if so, (when I'm "finished") I'll add the cacheTimeout param so it can serve the graph from cache | 04:30 |
| mordred | notmyname: I do not believe we use memcache - lemme go look | 04:34 |
| mordred | nope | 04:35 |
| mordred | no memcache | 04:35 |
| notmyname | mordred: ok. I'm going off only http://graphite.readthedocs.org/en/latest/render_api.html#cachetimeout | 04:35 |
| mordred | notmyname: go ahead and set it - we may hit the day where memcache is helpful :) | 04:35 |
| notmyname | mordred: and it's probably a non issue if the system load is low | 04:35 |
| notmyname | mordred: well, I won't yet in case it messes with my rapid ish reloads for tests :-) | 04:36 |
| mordred | ++ | 04:36 |
| notmyname | I gotta be done first | 04:36 |
| notmyname | and when a programmer tells you he's trying to get done... ;-) | 04:36 |
| mordred | yeah. good luck with that :) | 04:40 |
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| notmyname | heh | 04:42 |
| notmyname | mordred: reload now. a few more tweaks (mostly my flopping the sides). any suggestions on further ways to improve the readability or values graphed? | 04:42 |
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| notmyname | protip: if "tequila bar" is actually in the name of your restaurant, you should probably have a list of tequilas on the menu. "we have patron" just doesn't cut it | 04:46 |
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| lifeless | mordred: no; did I leave that in there? | 05:14 |
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| mordred | lifeless: yah | 06:20 |
| mordred | notmyname: ++ | 06:20 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Gantt repositories. https://review.openstack.org/60380 | 06:22 |
| lifeless | fungi: mordred: fixed ^ {removed bitrot jobs} | 06:22 |
| mordred | lifeless: thanks! | 06:22 |
| * mordred figured that gantt hasn't had time to bitrot yet | 06:22 | |
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| clarkb | I am now in the wrong state | 07:35 |
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| fifieldt | sounds like fun | 07:40 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: welcome! | 07:40 |
| clarkb | pleia2: the nights here are about as cold as the days in seattle | 07:42 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: yeah, it's been cold lately :\ | 07:42 |
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| pleia2 | got down into the 30s last week, mass chaos :) | 07:43 |
| clarkb | ha | 07:44 |
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| praneshp | http://logs.openstack.org/92/62292/3/check/gate-entropy-python33/621a118/console.html | 08:18 |
| praneshp | the gate-test for py33 | 08:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Use yaml local tags to support including files https://review.openstack.org/48783 | 09:11 |
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| bogdando | was: workon https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258244 fix and verification loks OK, PRD-2630 (incomplete info provided yet), finishing demo for PoC of PDU fencing | 09:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258244 in fuel "kickstart config for master node does not contain latest fixes for slave nodes" [High,In progress] | 09:34 |
| bogdando | will: pick some issues from buglist, reviewing, finishing demo for PoC of PDU fencing | 09:34 |
| bogdando | oh sorry , wrong channel :D | 09:35 |
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| portante | Regarding notmyname's graphs: http://not.mn/gate_status.html | 13:12 |
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| portante | Can we tell when a job failes because the test marked it as a FAILURE vs pip failed to install, or some other infrastructure reason? | 13:13 |
| portante | And if so, do we think that would be a material difference? | 13:13 |
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| portante | clarkb, jeblair: FYI job https://review.openstack.org/60215 got resubmitted again | 13:16 |
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| fungi | yup, i've been watching it. seems to be back to looping | 14:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yanis Guenane proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: New project request: eDeploy https://review.openstack.org/62377 | 14:36 |
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| pafuent | Hi | 14:40 |
| pafuent | Jenkins started a gete job for my patch, but in Zuul I saw as SKIPPED | 14:40 |
| pafuent | What is the meaning of SKIPPED? | 14:41 |
| pafuent | s/gete/gate | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Ghe is tripleo-core now. https://review.openstack.org/61900 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add repo openstack-doc-tools https://review.openstack.org/62222 | 14:45 |
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| anteaya | pafuent: what patch? | 14:47 |
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| pafuent | anteaya: This one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61218/ | 14:48 |
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| anteaya | pafuent: interesting | 14:49 |
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| anteaya | that patch is out of the queue, every test listed as skipped and no test failing, so I have no idea what removed it from the queue | 14:50 |
| anteaya | we will have to wait for the logs to see what more we can learn | 14:50 |
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| pafuent | anteaya: ok, so there is something I can do, like a reverify or something like that? | 14:53 |
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| anteaya | pafuent: don't know, would help to find out why tests were skipped | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | well you can reverify but it might just happen again | 14:54 |
| anteaya | I checked your dependencies on that patch, in case that was causing an issue, but you don't have any | 14:54 |
| sdague | fungi: you understand graphite? | 14:55 |
| sdague | I'm trying to figure out why the counts on success / fail aren't integers | 14:55 |
| sdague | http://graphite.openstack.org/render/?from=-168hours&target=stats.zuul.pipeline.gate.job.gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full.{SUCCESS,FAILURE}&format=raw | 14:55 |
| fungi | pafuent: anteaya: that usually means it's in merge conflict, either with the tip of its target branch or with a change ahead of it in the gate | 14:55 |
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| anteaya | fungi: what is the way forward in the case of a merge conflict, a rebase? | 14:56 |
| fungi | sdague: i've poked at it a teensy bit, but i usually spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find data sources (and haven't used any of its advanced modeling or summarization) | 14:56 |
| fungi | anteaya: yep | 14:56 |
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| sdague | fungi: yeh, honestly, I think graphite is the wrong tool for trying to do analysis on these data sets | 14:57 |
| fungi | sdague: you mean like the 0.0166666666667 value in there? | 14:58 |
| sdague | yep | 14:58 |
| pafuent | anteaya: fungi: so I need to do a rebase and submit a new patch? | 14:58 |
| anteaya | pafuent: so looks like after it gets finished and it has its reports, you need to rebase | 14:58 |
| sdague | fungi: it's consistent | 14:58 |
| anteaya | just rebase | 14:58 |
| anteaya | but don't do it until the patch ahead is finished in the gate | 14:58 |
| fungi | sdague: well, that's 1/60 fraction rendered as a float approximation, fwiw | 14:58 |
| anteaya | because you might need that patch merged for the rebase to work | 14:59 |
| fungi | sdague: so "60" might be a clue here | 14:59 |
| sdague | yeh | 14:59 |
| sdague | so the buckets seem to be 60 s buckets | 14:59 |
| fungi | pafuent: you should figure out whether your patch is in merge conflict with the branch or merely with another change ahead of it for the same project+branch combo | 14:59 |
| sdague | so it's basically treating that as whether it's signaled high for 1 second | 15:00 |
| fungi | pafuent: if the latter, you'd want to first see whether that one you're conflicting with passes tests and merges | 15:00 |
| anteaya | pafuent: or at least that patch ahead of it finished doing whatever it is going to do, before you rebase | 15:00 |
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| pafuent | anteaya: fungi: ok, so I need to wait to see what happens with that patch ahead, and then do a rebase from gerrit | 15:02 |
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| sdague | so I guess because it's a guage and not a count, does that mean that if 2 things happen at the same second, they are squashed? | 15:03 |
| fungi | pafuent: like i said, first make sure you're not just failing to merge to the branch itself. if you are, waiting is probably not necessary | 15:03 |
| fungi | instead i'd say just rebase and see if you can get a fresh approval | 15:04 |
| pafuent | Ok | 15:04 |
| fungi | sdague: that's my interpretation | 15:04 |
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| pafuent | fungi: ok | 15:04 |
| sdague | hmmm... that's unfortunate. What I'd actually like is the events raw, success vs. fail + timestamp | 15:05 |
| sdague | I wonder if that's available anywhere? | 15:05 |
| pafuent | anteaya: fungi: thanks so much | 15:05 |
| fungi | sdague: i suspect not. graphite is probably not preserving that time series record (for the sake of efficiency), but i don't know enough about it to say that's the case for certain | 15:06 |
| sdague | yeh, that's fair | 15:06 |
| sdague | I could rebuild the last 2 weeks of it out of elastic search | 15:06 |
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| sdague | maybe I'll ask jeblair when he gets up about it | 15:07 |
| fungi | i recommend that | 15:07 |
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| sdague | it actually occurs to me that we could do a predictions market on the chance of the top change making it through, and how many changes deep we can get before we're more than 50% chance of failure | 15:11 |
| miqui | clarkb: i noticed there is a new version of zuul...is there a list of changes/fixes or new features in this release somewhere (i.e. README?) | 15:11 |
| sdague | which would be a good way to categorize things. But you'd actually want to take into account all the jobs. | 15:11 |
| miqui | or...should just checkout zuul proj in launchpad? | 15:12 |
| sdague | which means much more complicated analysis than just those 6 jobs listed | 15:12 |
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| fungi | sdague: i think that was the gist of the gate depth resource waste argument notmyname was making | 15:13 |
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| sdague | I guess I didn't catch that | 15:14 |
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| fungi | with a really detailed analysis we could probably even figure out at what point the resource starvation from gate resets degrades overall throughput of patches | 15:14 |
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| sdague | I do think notmyname did some good cumulative numbers here, but I think graphite stops being useful for doing this pretty quickly. We need to be pulling it back into numpy I think to do real analysis | 15:15 |
| fungi | but adding max dependent pipeline depth variability into zuul would probably be a good way to introduce all sorts of ugly bugs, so probably not something we would ultimately want to implement (vs putting more time into good qa for the code being gated) | 15:16 |
| sdague | yeh, I'm less interested in changing zuul's behavior at this point. Though it would be interesting to realize how quickly your chance of succeeding dropped below 1% | 15:16 |
| fungi | miqui: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/NEWS.rst | 15:16 |
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| fungi | miqui: the only thing we use launchpad for is bug tracking | 15:17 |
| fungi | so not much else to check out on launchpad | 15:17 |
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| miqui | fungi: right, thanks...i was looking in launchpad for a list of fixed bugs in zuul 2.0.... | 15:20 |
| fungi | miqui: oh, yes those should be listed as "fix-released" hopefully, though i don't think there's any series targeting for them | 15:21 |
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| miqui | fungi: .. k thanks fungi....our zuul setup stopped working after going from 1.3 to 2.0... | 15:22 |
| miqui | so we are looking into that.. | 15:23 |
| fungi | miqui: alternatively, hopefully commit messages in the revision control log will mention what bugs are fixed as well http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/log/ | 15:23 |
| fungi | miqui: but yes, that NEWS.rst should mention all the breaking changes since 1.3 | 15:23 |
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| miqui | fungi: cool thanks... | 15:23 |
| fungi | things like needing a gearman plugin for your jenkins master(s), necessary changes in layout.config and so on | 15:24 |
| fungi | er, layout.yaml | 15:24 |
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| sdague | fungi: ok, I just gave up on the os-loganalyze patches, there is just too much going on in them. I provided some feedback to solly on that | 15:37 |
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| sdague | I need them smaller to make heads or tails of them | 15:37 |
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| fungi | yeah, i did not find time to do an especially in-depth analysis either since they look like a substantial rewrite of the original | 15:41 |
| fungi | too much to digest | 15:42 |
| fungi | i like where it's headed, just can't quite tell how it gets there | 15:42 |
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| sdague | yeh, and there is a bunch of unrelated cleanup in the big patch | 15:43 |
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| sdague | it's actually a patch which is 3x the size of the current code base :) | 15:43 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: I remembered which patch I needed to backport to fix the import errors: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62401/1 | 15:46 |
| fungi | mtreinish: awesome! thank you!!! | 15:46 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: sure, np you can rebase on the top of that branch and everything hopefully will pass | 15:47 |
| fungi | i'll abandon my last failed attempt and rebase the tox.ini changes onto yours | 15:47 |
| fungi | yup | 15:47 |
| fungi | thanks again | 15:47 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: sure np, it's my fault for not backporting the fix (and forgetting about the change) | 15:48 |
| fungi | you're far from the only person who's left stable branches of their project untestable, so don't feel too bad ;) | 15:48 |
| fungi | i hit more than a few on that mass-backport | 15:49 |
| mtreinish | fungi: except tempest is only tests... | 15:49 |
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| fungi | true | 15:49 |
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| fungi | jd__: on https://review.openstack.org/60509 in turns out there's no zookeeper-server rpm available in centos 6.x or epel... was that supposed to be something else? (i hunted around and couldn't find an obvious candidate you might have meant) | 15:51 |
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| annegentle_ | Anyone have a good regex I could use for watched projects to look at an entire directory, like doc/source? I see it's available in https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/user-search.html but really want an example... | 15:52 |
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| annegentle_ | I tried file:doc/source/^.*\.rst$ | 15:53 |
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| annegentle_ | maybe I have to escape the /? | 15:53 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: ^ usually means beginning of a line, so makes little sense in the middle of a pattern | 15:55 |
| annegentle_ | fungi: oh crap I suck at regex | 15:55 |
| fungi | that said, i haven't played with gerrit's file pattern match syntax, so maybe it's "different" | 15:55 |
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| fungi | having a look at the doc for it now | 15:55 |
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| fungi | yeah, their examples for file patterns also only use ^ at the start of the entire pattern (modulo quoting) | 15:56 |
| annegentle_ | fungi: now it doesn't like the $ | 15:57 |
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| annegentle_ | fungi: I could just watch for file:^.*\.rst | 15:57 |
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| fungi | yeah, that seems consistent with their xml example | 15:58 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: i have a feeling it may not support path matches, only the actual base filenames (their examples seem limited entirely to the latter) | 15:59 |
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| jeblair | sdague: the graphite link you sent earlier is 'events-per-second' aggregated to 60-second buckets | 16:01 |
| mattymo | buckets of fun | 16:01 |
| jeblair | sdague: this link: http://graphite.openstack.org/render/?from=-168hours&target=stats_counts.zuul.pipeline.gate.job.gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full.{SUCCESS,FAILURE}&format=raw | 16:01 |
| sdague | jeblair: so can I get the raw events? | 16:02 |
| jeblair | sdague: is the raw count of events in each 60 second bucket | 16:02 |
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| sdague | I guess if it's events per second, I can work backwards | 16:02 |
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| jeblair | sdague: the second link isn't events per second; it's 'events' | 16:03 |
| annegentle_ | fungi: ok, fair enough. I can do what I need with the crude "all the rst things all the time" :) | 16:03 |
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| sdague | jeblair: ah, sorry, didn't realize that was a different link :) | 16:03 |
| jeblair | sdague: the other thing to understand about the system is this isn't just graphite -- it's also statsd | 16:04 |
| jeblair | sdague: https://github.com/etsy/statsd/blob/master/docs/metric_types.md | 16:04 |
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| jeblair | sdague: so before data goes to graphite, it goes through statsd which does some processing and aggregation | 16:04 |
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| sdague | jeblair: ok, so I think that stats_counts link will give me what I need | 16:04 |
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| jd__ | fungi: no I didn't check extensively, if you can't find it just drop it, having one available and installed on Ubuntu is good enough | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: No zookeeper packages on CentOS slaves https://review.openstack.org/62411 | 16:11 |
| fungi | jd__: ^ (thanks for confirming!) | 16:11 |
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| notmyname | is it possible for a group in gerrit to have "mark WIP" or "restore change" etc on patches that they don't own? eg I'd like to be able to do such on some swift patches | 16:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Add --csv-rows option https://review.openstack.org/60115 | 16:27 |
| russellb | notmyname: yeah, we have it set to allow all of nova-core to set WIP | 16:28 |
| russellb | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/nova,access | 16:28 |
| russellb | we don't have restore set that way ... not sure if you can, but if so that would be handy | 16:29 |
| fungi | notmyname: mark as wip yes. restore abandoned changes is not an acl permission in gerrit 2.4 (only change owners and gerrit administrators can do it) but we will supposedly have it available to us when we upgrade to 2.8 or 2.9 | 16:29 |
| notmyname | fungi: ah, cool. russellb: thanks | 16:29 |
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| notmyname | fungi: can we get the bit twiddled for swift similarly? | 16:30 |
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| fungi | notmyname: you bet--just a sec and i'll propose the change | 16:30 |
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| jeblair | i think the intent was to set that for all projects, but it seems that may have been forgotten | 16:30 |
| fungi | jeblair: how about i just propose that then | 16:31 |
| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 16:31 |
| fungi | everything in openstack.*/ | 16:31 |
| jeblair | ya | 16:31 |
| fungi | coming right up before we forget yet again | 16:31 |
| notmyname | so eg https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/swift is a view only and not where changes are made? | 16:31 |
| jeblair | notmyname: we manage all the acls through git so anyone can propose changes to them | 16:32 |
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| jeblair | notmyname: (an admin _can_ make a change there, but that's not our policy) | 16:32 |
| fungi | notmyname: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls | 16:32 |
| fungi | is where we manage them | 16:33 |
| notmyname | thanks | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Don't fix disks before rexecing https://review.openstack.org/60961 | 16:36 |
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| sdague | fungi: I apparently have duplicate name syndrome in gerrit again | 16:52 |
| fungi | sdague: too fun. i'll check it out in a bit. did your lp profile change? i wonder whether that caused them to change your openid url | 16:53 |
| sdague | lp didn't change | 16:53 |
| sdague | I did have a change on emails | 16:53 |
| sdague | maybe I screwed something up in the process | 16:53 |
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| fungi | sdague: it looks like there's a new account associated with a new lp openid url and your old ibm e-mail address | 17:00 |
| sdague | fungi: interesting... | 17:00 |
| sdague | what account name? | 17:00 |
| fungi | just a minute... i have to remember how to run api queries against lp to fond out | 17:01 |
| fungi | er, find | 17:01 |
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| fungi | sdague: when i query the lp api for each of those openid urls, they both return the same lp account | 17:05 |
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| fungi | so i guess this is the same old "multiple openid urls from launchpad" issue | 17:05 |
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| sdague | interesting | 17:06 |
| fungi | sdague: anyway, i can clear that new openid off the new account and replace the old openid url on your normal account with it | 17:07 |
| fungi | we'll see how that works out | 17:07 |
| fungi | just a sec | 17:07 |
| sdague | sounds good | 17:07 |
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| jeblair | ArxCruz: i don't think the order you specified for the zeromq patches is right | 17:08 |
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| ArxCruz | jeblair: the first one is already merged | 17:09 |
| jeblair | ArxCruz: I think 59995 needs to merge next, then 59993 | 17:09 |
| jeblair | ArxCruz: (but you specified the other order) | 17:09 |
| ArxCruz | jeblair: hmmm let me check | 17:09 |
| ArxCruz | jeblair: you're right | 17:09 |
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| jeblair | ArxCruz: ok cool | 17:09 |
| ArxCruz | jeblair: updating the order | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Arx Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Replace DEVSTACK_GATE_ZEROMQ for DEVSTACK_GATE_MQ_DRIVER in jjb https://review.openstack.org/59995 | 17:11 |
| fungi | sdague: see if it's working any better now. i nulled out the full name and preferred e-mail address on the new account too, so it doesn't cause lookup confusion in the webui | 17:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Arx Cruz proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Replace DEVSTACK_GATE_ZEROMQ for DEVSTACK_GATE_MQ_DRIVER https://review.openstack.org/59993 | 17:11 |
| ArxCruz | jeblair: done | 17:11 |
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| sdague | fungi: i think it's good now | 17:12 |
| jeblair | ArxCruz: thx | 17:12 |
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| fungi | notmyname: jeblair: ^ | 17:30 |
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| notmyname | fungi: thanks | 17:39 |
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| anteaya | fungi: does 62428 remove wip powers from the submitter, if the submitter is not core on the project in question? | 17:43 |
| fungi | anteaya: it does not. it only adds wip control for the cores | 17:43 |
| fungi | a lot of our projects were already set that way, so the change is merely making the others consistent with them | 17:44 |
| anteaya | very good | 17:44 |
| anteaya | good idea | 17:44 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, lifeless: if you have a chance to look at this, that would be great: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61120/ | 17:54 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, lifeless: it's a new django project and i want to make sure testing starts off right there. | 17:55 |
| clarkb | jeblair: will take a look at ina bit, just got internets | 17:55 |
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| ruhe | before you +1 it please notice, that it has py26 broken | 17:56 |
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| jeblair | ruhe: it looks like py26 is not broken because of that patch, right? | 17:57 |
| ruhe | right, it was broken before | 17:57 |
| jeblair | ruhe: i think the next step is to add non-voting test jobs for it | 17:57 |
| jeblair | then people will see the breakage, and once it gets fixed, we can make them voting | 17:57 |
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| ruhe | jeblair: right | 17:58 |
| ruhe | and SergeyLukjanov already took care of that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61119/ | 17:59 |
| jeblair | ruhe: ah, cool, we should leave a 'recheck no bug' comment then. | 18:00 |
| * jeblair just did that | 18:01 | |
| jeblair | oh | 18:01 |
| jeblair | it was added to experimental :( | 18:01 |
| jeblair | i would have added it as non-voting gate | 18:01 |
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| jeblair | (the job isn't experimental, it's just broken) | 18:02 |
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| jeblair | annegentle_: can you make "openstack-admins" the maintainer of https://launchpad.net/openstack-org ? | 18:05 |
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| ruhe | jeblair, i'll make it non-voting | 18:06 |
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| ruhe | i just need to understand wether there is some secret sort order of non-voting jobs in layout.yaml or it's just a heap :) | 18:12 |
| jeblair | ruhe: ideally it should be sorted, but it is not. | 18:14 |
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| jeblair | ruhe: order only matters for job names with regexes; so it should really be: 1) regex jobs sorted in desired order of application 2) all other jobs alpha sorted | 18:15 |
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| ruhe | jeblair, since they're not sorted at this moment i'll just add it to the bottom of 2) | 18:16 |
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| jeblair | ok | 18:19 |
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| jasond | where can i find the source code for the "check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full" test? i didn't see it in the repo at github.com/openstack/tempest | 18:24 |
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| ruhe | jeblair, there it is ^ | 18:24 |
| jeblair | ruhe: cool, thanks | 18:24 |
| ann_ | where do i download debian installable pkg for Zuul? | 18:25 |
| jeblair | jasond: the "check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full" job runs the tempest "full" test suite (which includes thousands of individual tests) | 18:26 |
| jeblair | ann_: pabelanger is working on zuul packaging | 18:26 |
| mfer | jeblair a couple weeks ago we were talking about clients/bindings and openstack... remember? | 18:26 |
| pabelanger | jeblair, ann_ Indeed. There are actually some reviews up, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/zuul-packaging,n,z but lacks reviews | 18:27 |
| jeblair | mfer: something non-python, as i recall? | 18:27 |
| pabelanger | need to get the word out | 18:27 |
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| mfer | jeblair yes. at the time we were talking about golang | 18:28 |
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| mfer | i was wondering if you could take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62069/ ... for PHP | 18:28 |
| pabelanger | And since 2.0 is tagged, I want to get that into Debian right away now | 18:29 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: i may not have added that to my watched projects list. i will correc.t | 18:29 |
| jeblair | mfer: it's on my list of changes to review | 18:29 |
| mfer | thanks | 18:29 |
| mfer | if you have questions i'm glad to talk about it in depth | 18:29 |
| jeblair | mfer: fyi, a similar situation will apply -- we'll only be able to use the version of php available in the OS distros of the OS's that openstack is currently targeting | 18:30 |
| jeblair | mfer: (so whatever is in precise and centos6 at the moment) | 18:30 |
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| zul | im so not backporting php | 18:31 |
| mfer | jeblair i understand. i'm happy to work out other testing methonds for the time being | 18:31 |
| mfer | zul doesn't that sound like fun? ;-) | 18:31 |
| zul | it isnt | 18:31 |
| mfer | jeblair i'll ask where the bounds are and then work within or around them for testing. | 18:32 |
| mfer | zul i was just trolling you a little. i would never ask someone to do that. i entirely understand. | 18:32 |
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| jasond | jeblair: i'm trying to identify which specific test was running when the error in http://logs.openstack.org/17/61717/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/3b776c3/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz was encountered. is there any way of doing that? | 18:34 |
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| jeblair | jasond: you might want to ask over in #openstack-qa. I'm not sure of the process myself, but I'm hoping the tenant ids or something similar can help narrow that down. | 18:35 |
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| jasond | jeblair: will do, thanks | 18:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Add new hook flags for gerrit 2.5 https://review.openstack.org/61560 | 18:47 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: thanks for the ping, have put some thoughts on the review | 18:51 |
| lifeless | jeblair: I don't have the review bandwidth to shepard storyboard in my daily review run, but I'm bery happy to be pinged on specific reviews or for direct questions | 18:52 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: understood; since it's right at the beginning i'm hoping we can get testing set up correctly so we don't start off with technical debt. | 18:57 |
| lifeless | jeblair: yup! | 18:58 |
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| jeblair | zaro: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+spec/gerrit-2.8-upgrade | 19:05 |
| jeblair | zaro: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit-2.8-upgrade | 19:05 |
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| ann_ | <pabelanger> i checked the link you provided above... with some review information on zuul | 19:09 |
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| ann_ | so from this i understand as of today, there is no zuul debian pkg available, right? it is Work In Progress | 19:10 |
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| annegentle_ | jeblair: sorry, I thought I already did | 19:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Setup tooling and jobs for openstack Gerrit ver 2.8 and beyond https://review.openstack.org/60348 | 19:16 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: we have a minor disagreement on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61892/ | 19:25 |
| pabelanger | ann_, correct. A lot of dependencies were missing from Debian, up until recently | 19:25 |
| pabelanger | I suspect it will land in Debian for the new year | 19:25 |
| ann_ | so as of now, if i need to install... what are my options? give me some pointers pls | 19:26 |
| clarkb | jeblair: looking | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: thanks, will update my review | 19:26 |
| jeblair | ann_: we run from source, and our servers are managed by puppet. you can see our config here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/ | 19:27 |
| clarkb | jeblair: responded | 19:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: cool, thx. i'll go along with compression then too. | 19:30 |
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| zaro | jeblair: reading now | 19:32 |
| pabelanger | ann_, pip install zuul should get you started | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | ann_, and http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | you can see how -infra does it via their puppet manifests | 19:36 |
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| zaro | jeblair: we have the option to set abandon privileges to groups in new gerrit, should that be mentioned in etherpad? | 19:38 |
| lifeless | fungi: hey, a q on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62428/1 | 19:39 |
| lifeless | fungi: does that stop individuals WIPing their own work ? | 19:39 |
| lifeless | fungi: or does it merge in '-core can WIP' with individual WIPing? | 19:39 |
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| ann_ | cool... thanks i will try it out | 19:42 |
| jeblair | lifeless: it additionally allows core to wip | 19:42 |
| lifeless | jeblair: thanks, cool | 19:42 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: also if you have a second - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62443/ - I've 0 | 19:43 |
| lifeless | 'd it as I don't know enough history | 19:43 |
| lifeless | jeblair: but my inclination would be to not disable things :) | 19:44 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: just seeking -infra experienced opinion for my infra-core emulator | 19:44 |
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| fungi | sorry... power here was bouncing like a rubber ball. think it fried some less-important stuff not on ups too. so wonderful | 19:45 |
| fungi | seems to have stabilized again, at least | 19:45 |
| jeblair | lifeless: for jobs where they really ought to be passing and think that making failures visible to devs and reviewers, non-voting check/gate jobs are appropriate | 19:45 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i think experimental is better for jobs that we're really unsure of, or are still being developed off in a corner | 19:46 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: non-voting is better for 'last stages before enablement' | 19:46 |
| lifeless | jeblair: ok; so this is for - AIUI - a project where the initial upload to gerrit was broken on a support platform | 19:47 |
| lifeless | jeblair: I guess I'm asking if that gets different treatment | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: since the 2.6 jobs are part of a standard battery we expect every project to pass, i think it's worth the computation cost to remind devs of that. | 19:48 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: it doesn't come up that often; but yeah, i think in general when new openstack projects are accepted, we have often added the standard jobs an non-voting until they pass. | 19:49 |
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| jeblair | rather 'jobs as non-voting' | 19:50 |
| lifeless | jeblair: oh, so by special I meant, keep it voting because its standard' | 19:50 |
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| lifeless | jeblair: given the three choices of no jobs, non-voting, voting. | 19:50 |
| jeblair | lifeless: ah, if we added it as voting, then the next patch would have to fix it, which is a really big hammer. so we don't normally add voting jobs when they are known to be broken. | 19:51 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: i expect/hope that someone will fix 2.6 soon once they notice it's broken, and then it can be made voting | 19:52 |
| lifeless | jeblair: ack, thanks. This is why I asked :) | 19:53 |
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| ruhe | lifeless, i (or someone else) will move it back to voting once python26 gets fixed. at this moment we'd like just a simple subset of tests to pass to build up sufficient test coverage on top of that later | 19:55 |
| fungi | trivia... i have just discovered that if i set my user agent string to "NCSA Mosaic/1.0 (X11;SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m)" gerrit/gwt has no clue what to render any longer. cute | 19:56 |
| sdague | so we're doing late merge conflict checking now right? | 19:57 |
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| jeblair | sdague: i don't understand the question | 19:59 |
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| fungi | has anybody noticed that a ton of nova tempest jobs in the gate are running over an hour long? that's not typical is it? | 20:03 |
| sdague | when we do we do the merge conflict detection on a gate job? | 20:04 |
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| jeblair | sdague: when prepping the zuul ref | 20:07 |
| sdague | ok | 20:08 |
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| fungi | sdague: if i get where you're going with that question, since the introduction of the nnfi algorithm we've switched back to not immediately kicking changes out of a dependent pipeline if there is a merge conflict, and are back to giving it a chance to merge if things ahead of it don't merge (even if they can't merge to the branch tip) | 20:08 |
| sdague | fungi: yeh, that's where I was headed | 20:08 |
| sdague | ok, so is that the reason why you see leaves hanging out for a long time | 20:09 |
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| sdague | because they are in a merge conflict, thus no runable | 20:09 |
| fungi | yep | 20:09 |
| sdague | cool | 20:10 |
| clarkb | you can hover over the red dot and it tells you what it is red | 20:10 |
| sdague | might be nice to provide some UI on that | 20:10 |
| clarkb | s/what/why/ | 20:10 |
| sdague | ah, gotcha | 20:10 |
| fungi | sdague: as for my question, tempest jobs taking over an hour... that's atypical right? | 20:10 |
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| sdague | fungi: yes.... we're working on that one | 20:10 |
| sdague | it's a nova patch we need to revert | 20:10 |
| fungi | okay, didn't know whether that was a known issue | 20:11 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62421/ | 20:11 |
| fungi | ouch | 20:11 |
| sdague | that one might be eligible for ninja merge | 20:11 |
| sdague | especially as I think it's still the top of the nova tree | 20:12 |
| sdague | russellb: you be ok with that? | 20:12 |
| sdague | fungi: or at minimum, bounce it to the top on the next reset | 20:12 |
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| sdague | as it should make the entire queue process at lot faster | 20:13 |
| russellb | yeah fine with whatever you guys think | 20:13 |
| russellb | it's approved, so whatever | 20:13 |
| fungi | sdague: yeah, i don't want to introduce an unnecessary reset, but as soon as the rest of these up top merge in it seems appropriate | 20:13 |
| sdague | fungi: it looks like 6 patches are about to merge, then I'd bump this one up | 20:14 |
| * fungi nods | 20:14 | |
| fungi | basically slip it in front of 62401,1 as soon as 56438,8 gets booted out | 20:15 |
| fungi | clarkb: jeblair: does that seem reasonable? | 20:15 |
| fungi | or should we wait until the current patchset of that revert passes check tests? | 20:16 |
| sdague | fungi: at this point the risk is low, we'd like it in as soon as possible. It was unfortunately pep8 failed because of comment line length (due to Revert "" being added to first line) | 20:19 |
| fungi | looks like everything except unit tests passed on patchset 2 and python27 unit tests have passed on the new patchset, (removing test_dispatch_not_enough_param) | 20:19 |
| fungi | so seems safe. promoting now | 20:20 |
| sdague | thanks | 20:20 |
| fungi | hopefully that'll speed everything up | 20:20 |
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| sdague | yep | 20:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add pywbem to global-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/48269 | 20:25 |
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| mfer | jeblair thanks. | 20:36 |
| mfer | jeblair i think i'm missing some part of the process. what doe it take for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62069/ to be approved and merged? | 20:36 |
| jeblair | mfer: another infra-core dev taking a look and approving. though i just remembered, new project creation is frozen because of a bug. :( | 20:37 |
| mfer | doh | 20:38 |
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| jeblair | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1242569 | 20:38 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1242569 in openstack-ci "manage-projects error on new project creation" [Critical,Triaged] | 20:38 |
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| * mfer wishes he knew enough about the infra to work this | 20:41 | |
| fungi | mtreinish: is there still another backport missing? http://logs.openstack.org/11/62211/4/check/check-grenade-dsvm/3d3296a/console.html#_2013-12-16_17_28_20_045 seems to be failing because lxml is missing system dependencies, which doesn't seem likely to be a nondeterministic bug to me | 20:43 |
| jeblair | mfer: yeah, i'm afraid it touches a lot of moving parts, so creating a test environment will be somewhat complicated. | 20:43 |
| mfer | jeblair i see that. if there was something i could do to help i'd be glad to. but, i know i can't dive in and get that setup any time soon | 20:44 |
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| jeblair | mfer: i'm hoping someone will at least be assigned to it this week. | 20:45 |
| jeblair | then we'll have a better idea of when it will be fixed | 20:45 |
| mtreinish | fungi: lxml requires some dev packages to be installed to build correctly. Although I think the ubuntu python-lxml packages normally fulfill the lxml version in requirements so that isn't an issue normally. That or we install the libxml2-dev and libxslt-dev packages in a normal gate run. (I can't remember which it is. | 20:45 |
| mfer | clarkb ping | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Import the openstackid authentication project https://review.openstack.org/61250 | 20:47 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: yeah, i'll go hunting in the devstack logs to see if it forgot to install them | 20:47 |
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| zaro | fungi: you have time today to talk about private gerrit for security patches? | 20:51 |
| mtreinish | fungi: oh, I figure it out you added the pip install -U to tox in that patch | 20:51 |
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| mtreinish | so it's trying to build lxml and it doesn't have the deps | 20:51 |
| mtreinish | normally we just use the ubuntu version | 20:51 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: aha! is this because site-packages is also enabled? | 20:52 |
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| fungi | zaro: yes, i had some comments in the works for that patch. let me see where i left it | 20:52 |
| fungi | last time i tried to set aside a chunk of time to focus on it, jenkins01 decided to fall over. hopefully this time it will go better' | 20:53 |
| mtreinish | fungi: yeah, although I'm not sure why we don't hit it on the other jobs. (unless it's grizzly grenade doesn't install the 2 -dev packages) | 20:54 |
| zaro | clarkb: ohh yeah, talking about jenkins01. how's the updated jenkins holding up? | 20:54 |
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| fungi | zaro: i rolled it back on saturday | 20:54 |
| zaro | fungi: ohh? what happened? | 20:54 |
| fungi | zaro: the scp publisher plugin was copying console logs before they were completely there or something, so we were ending up with truncated console.html files on the logserver | 20:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add 2 new ci publication branches to gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/62095 | 20:55 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think it's more likely that the console log copier was interrupted before it finished | 20:56 |
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| fungi | oh, so some thread reaper stopping it mid-transfer | 20:56 |
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| fungi | that makes sense | 20:57 |
| anteaya | mfer clarkb is in a meeting all day today, just post your question, someone else may be able to help | 20:57 |
| mfer | anteaya thanks. i just found that out on the conference call i'm on. funny how communication channels work. | 20:57 |
| zaro | jeblair: fungi : is that a plugin bug or something with core? | 20:58 |
| fungi | zaro: plugin, i think clarkb forked it from somewhere a while back? | 20:58 |
| jeblair | zaro: probably a bug in scp plugin -- the console log copying is very special | 20:58 |
| anteaya | mfer: :D | 20:59 |
| mfer | i just sent an email when I learned that | 20:59 |
| anteaya | k | 20:59 |
| mfer | why use one form of communication when 3 will work :) | 21:00 |
| anteaya | coverage | 21:00 |
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| fungi | zaro: https://github.com/jenkinsci/scp-plugin | 21:01 |
| mtreinish | fungi: yeah that's exactly what it was grizzly devstack doesn't install libxslt1-dev | 21:02 |
| mtreinish | fungi: it was added in: 31ffddd5b700a326df4ff0259da3c6412881db08 and 71d5630c4ad2dd74964119a4ad8f16833f61fc21 | 21:03 |
| mtreinish | I'm not sure either is really backport friendly though | 21:03 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: so maybe havana tempest tox.ini should just omit the -U i guess | 21:03 |
| fungi | i'll give that a try | 21:03 |
| zaro | fungi: did we notice anything else? | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | fungi: actually nm I was wrong, it's just missing a 1: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/files/apts/ceilometer-collector?h=stable/grizzly#n6 | 21:04 |
| fungi | zaro: that was the only think spotted out of the ordinary for the 18 hours or so it ran over friday night | 21:04 |
| fungi | er, thing | 21:04 |
| apevec | fungi, ping - I'm finally running process-fixcommitted-bugs.py script for 2013.2.1 and LP is throwing 503 at me, | 21:05 |
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| apevec | with the error message: At least 4 queries/external actions issued in 0.98 seconds OOPS-13500bba52a398e7e948fa66cc85e298 | 21:05 |
| apevec | fungi, is that DoS protection? | 21:05 |
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| zaro | fungi: cool. i'll take a look into that. | 21:05 |
| fungi | apevec: not sure... maybe? ttx? have you seen that error? | 21:05 |
| lifeless | apevec: the OOPS can be diagnosed in #launchpad | 21:06 |
| fungi | apevec: if it is a throttle, maybe we add some time.sleep() calls to the script | 21:06 |
| lifeless | apevec: the OOPS system captures PII so it's not accessible to non-LP-devs. | 21:06 |
| lifeless | fungi: it's not a throttle. | 21:06 |
| fungi | good | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | fungi: or maybe not, it looks like that links to the right package name. | 21:06 |
| lifeless | the timing data is irrelevant. | 21:06 |
| mtreinish | fungi: oh, i'm being dumb is ceilo even installed? | 21:06 |
| lifeless | Failing that fast I suspect an assertion is being hit. | 21:06 |
| fungi | mtreinish: probably not, since it wasn't graduated in grizzly | 21:07 |
| apevec | lifeless, thanks, I'll try #launchpad | 21:07 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: yeah so we probably just need to add it to the list for package list for grizzly devstack and that will solve your problem | 21:08 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: i can propose a backport in that case. we probably need libxslt1 and lxml-dev? | 21:08 |
| fungi | er, modulo correct speeeling | 21:09 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: 3rd Party Testing Dec 19th at 2200 UTC in -alt just announced in -meeting | 21:13 |
| jeblair | anteaya: can you add more words to that? :) | 21:13 |
| anteaya | sure | 21:13 |
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| anteaya | the neutron group that meets to discuss 3rd party testing, a requirement for plugins as of I2 will be meeting this Thursday Dec. 19th at 2200 utc in -alt | 21:14 |
| anteaya | I mentioned to clarkb because he attended last time, and i was grateful he did | 21:14 |
| jeblair | anteaya: cool, thanks | 21:15 |
| anteaya | thanks for asking :D | 21:15 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: do you think all of https://review.openstack.org/38127 needs backporting to grizzly, or is a more trivial addition warranted there? | 21:17 |
| * fungi just realized he should probably be asking on #-qa, oops | 21:18 | |
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| mtreinish | fungi: I think just the packages would be fine, but sdague is the one to probably ask | 21:25 |
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| fungi | thanks | 21:26 |
| sdague | fungi: I could see that backporting to havana, I'm not sure we care in grizzly | 21:26 |
| sdague | this is really about developers | 21:26 |
| mtreinish | sdague: it's a havana grenade thing | 21:27 |
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| jog0 | jeblair: how can I make zuul report to graphite when a change passes or fails in th gate queue | 22:26 |
| jog0 | jeblair: and report when there is a gate queue reset | 22:26 |
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| jog0 | sdague: ^ I think thats the best way to find out what the gate failure rate is | 22:30 |
| jeblair | jog0: add it to reportItem in scheduler.py | 22:32 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1261554 in python-keystoneclient "Keystoneclient revocation list is not multi-thread/process safe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1261554 | 22:36 |
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| sdague | jog0: so the thing is it's going to jump all over based on what's in it it, as every change has different components | 22:37 |
| sdague | so it will be a number :) | 22:37 |
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| jog0 | sdague: agreed | 22:37 |
| sdague | so I actually have this other idea | 22:38 |
| jog0 | sdague: it will very literally be the overall gate failure reate | 22:38 |
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| jog0 | rate* | 22:38 |
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| sdague | which I'm trying to relearn enough numpy to do | 22:38 |
| sdague | but I think what we actually want is to show our prediction on how likely every element in the gate is likely to succeed | 22:39 |
| sdague | which will actually give us a gate half life | 22:39 |
| sdague | basically how deep we think we've got a 50% chance of merging | 22:39 |
| sdague | and that's probably the best health indicator | 22:39 |
| jeblair | jog0: yeah, a better number from zuul would be the rate for the shared change queue, however, they have really long names which are not suitable for storing in graphite | 22:39 |
| sdague | jeblair: well that discounts unit test races | 22:40 |
| sdague | which are real things | 22:40 |
| jeblair | sdague: that's not my intent -- unit test jobs are still part of projects that share a change queue | 22:41 |
| jog0 | sdague: you have to factor in the NNFI scheduling | 22:41 |
| jog0 | or w/e it is called | 22:41 |
| sdague | jog0: if yuo know the topology of the queue, it's easy | 22:42 |
| jeblair | sdague: i think jog0's intent is to get pass/fail percentanges for each change that leaves the openstack gate | 22:42 |
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| sdague | because you've got success rate predictions for each change based on history, and you multiply them | 22:43 |
| sdague | jeblair: yep, I get that | 22:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: translating that into technical terms, the easiest thing to do is to record pass/fail each time a change in the gate pipeline is reported | 22:43 |
| sdague | jeblair: sure | 22:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: the problem with that is that includes info for stackforge and infra and projects that don't share the devstack-tempest change queue | 22:44 |
| sdague | jeblair: right | 22:44 |
| jeblair | sdague: and while zuul does _know_ about the differences there, obviously, unfortunately its name for the devstack-tempest change queue doesn't fit on one irc line | 22:44 |
| jeblair | which leaves us with a practical problem for how to record that stat. | 22:45 |
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| * jog0 just wants more numbers to play with | 22:46 | |
| jeblair | doing it at the pipeline (as opposed to queue) level will be an imperfect approximation | 22:47 |
| jeblair | and i also think that if those numbers are recorded, that head and overall numbers should be reported separately | 22:48 |
| jeblair | because they are probably both of interest, but different. | 22:48 |
| fungi | zaro: i've added a bunch of comments to https://review.openstack.org/47937 but it looks really great. also as for the rst file, note that you can preview it at http://docs-draft.openstack.org/37/47937/13/check/gate-ci-docs/0739e5a/doc/build/html/review-security.html (though you want to add it to the list in doc/source/systems.rst as well) | 22:48 |
| jog0 | jeblair: you want to write the patch? | 22:48 |
| jog0 | sounds like you ahve a better idea then me | 22:49 |
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| jeblair | jog0: not at the moment. i think getting the numbers right is going to take some thought, and i'm happy enough with the existing approximations that i don't think it's a top priority. | 22:52 |
| jog0 | jeblair: what about graphite for gate resets | 22:52 |
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| jeblair | jog0: same issues | 22:54 |
| jog0 | queue vs pipeline? | 22:54 |
| jeblair | yep, and head vs non-head | 22:54 |
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| jog0 | jeblair: why is head vs non-head an issue | 22:55 |
| jog0 | I just want to know how common resets occur in gate | 22:55 |
| jeblair | jog0: not an issue as much as it's important to understand how it impacts the numbers. | 22:56 |
| jog0 | jeblair: go on | 22:56 |
| jeblair | jog0: what's a reset? when the change at the head fails or when any change fails? why is one or the other of interest? | 22:56 |
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| jog0 | anything resets | 22:57 |
| jog0 | I want to see how often gate resets because the more resets the slower / worse off things are | 22:57 |
| * fungi is popping out for dinner, but will be back soon for more hacking | 22:57 | |
| jeblair | jog0: if you only look at resets at the head, that should actually be equal to 'change at head fails', and that number is basically 'likelyhood that any single change will fail'. | 22:57 |
| jeblair | jog0: if you look at resets across all changes in the queue, the reset rate will increase as the queue gets longer | 22:58 |
| jog0 | jeblair: hmm good point | 22:59 |
| jeblair | jog0: since there's nothing to normalize that against (you don't log a "not reset"), that means that stat may actually be measuring "length of queue" more than "occurrence of resets" | 22:59 |
| jog0 | so resets and head | 22:59 |
| jog0 | anyway I will mull this over a bit more, need to chat with sdague a bit more first | 23:00 |
| jeblair | however, it's possible that stat may still be interesting; it certainly seems inversely proportional to the efficiency of the system | 23:00 |
| jeblair | i will mull as well. | 23:01 |
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| jog0 | jeblair: cool, see you tonight | 23:05 |
| jeblair | jog0: yep! | 23:05 |
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| clarkb | ~. | 23:15 |
| clarkb | silly ssh | 23:15 |
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| reed | speaking of ssh, any rackspace cloud user here? :) I can't find a way to store my ssh key there so I can login via ssh in the newly created vm | 23:19 |
| jeblair | reed: you might be able to use the command line client to do it ('nova keypair ...') | 23:20 |
| reed | thanks jeblair, will look into that | 23:21 |
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| jeblair | that ^ is going to let us make layout.yaml _so much smaller_. | 23:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Copy libvirt log files after tempest run https://review.openstack.org/61892 | 23:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken'ichi Ohmichi proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Copy libvirt log files after tempest run https://review.openstack.org/61892 | 23:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Add Python3 deprecated assert* to HACKING.rst https://review.openstack.org/62136 | 23:47 |
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| sdague | reed: the devstack-gate pattern uses file injection for it | 23:47 |
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| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate | 23:48 |
| reed | sdague, thanks | 23:48 |
| sdague | look at the nova boot command in there | 23:49 |
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| mgagne | zaro: ping | 23:54 |
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| lifeless | hi | 23:58 |
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| lifeless | did something fail in new project mirroring ? | 23:58 |
| lifeless | (looking for gantt stackforge repos) | 23:58 |
| lifeless | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/gantt | 23:59 |
| lifeless | (openstack sorry but yeah - empty) | 23:59 |
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| lifeless | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-ganttclient looks fine though | 23:59 |
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