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openstackgerrit | Tim Landscheidt proposed a change to openstack-infra/git-review: Retrieve remote pushurl independently of user's locale https://review.openstack.org/64307 | 01:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Variable for launching tempests baremetal scenario https://review.openstack.org/64399 | 07:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Haomeng,Wang proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Ironic requires pyghmi>=0.5.8 https://review.openstack.org/64408 | 08:39 |
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yfried | clarkb: ping | 10:39 |
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mikal | I think I just found a zuul bug | 11:50 |
mikal | Do I get a cookie? | 11:50 |
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ekarlso | mikal: you get a cracker ;) | 11:52 |
mikal | Dammit | 11:55 |
mikal | How safe is it to remove zuul's local git repository? | 11:59 |
mikal | Will it rebuild it? | 11:59 |
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yfried | clarkb: ping | 12:30 |
openstackgerrit | David Caro proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added config options to not overwrite jobs desc https://review.openstack.org/52080 | 12:32 |
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fungi | yfried: clarkb is usually active starting around 18:00 utc | 13:08 |
fungi | mikal: zuul current versions of zuul like we're running will replace git clones as needed if it finds them missing (though removing them while jobs which need refs already constructed within them could cause those jobs to fail | 13:09 |
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fungi | yfried: regarding your mailing list thread about the nested qemu virtual machines in devstack-gate tests pinging hosts on the internet, have you tried recreating a devstack environment with the same configuration we use for tests to see if it's configured adequately for that? | 13:26 |
fungi | yfried: you can use the instructions at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/README.rst#n100 to try it out yourself and troubleshoot whatever might not be configured correctly | 13:27 |
yfried | fungi: 1. thank you | 13:27 |
yfried | fungi: 2. no I haven't | 13:27 |
fungi | yfried: as for the nameservers of the devstack vm (the nova compute instance/hypervisor host from the qemu vm's perspective) you might be able to have tempest tests scrape /etc/resolv.conf and then perform remote execution on the guests (you'd want to discuss it with the tempest developers on #openstack-qa probably) | 13:29 |
yfried | fungi: 3. for now I have decided to leave this, because it doesn't test openstack, but rather an external dns. I am satisfied with pinging the default GW | 13:29 |
fungi | yfried: that seems more practical anyway | 13:30 |
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yfried | fungi: yeah, I was going to do that until I realized that I don't actually test the openstack env, and, more importantly - I might get the gate blacklisted on the dns servers | 13:31 |
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fungi | in theory, it's the gateway's job to see that other packets get in and responses can get back (thus nat or whatever), so tests of the gateway itself should probably be a separate thing entirey | 13:31 |
fungi | entirely | 13:31 |
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fungi | so many typographical errors... i've not had my coffee yet this morning | 13:32 |
ArxCruz | ALL: I'm running devstack in 1st lvl, and one of my tempest tests are failing because can't connect through ssh. I've created one machine manually and added the ping and ssh ports on secgroup, and I can't ping nor ssh to the vm, does anyone know what's can be happening? | 13:33 |
ArxCruz | or help me to debug, I'm kinda lost :/ | 13:33 |
fungi | ArxCruz: are you sure the virtual machines booted completely and are configured with an appropriate ip address on their filesystems? | 13:36 |
fungi | or if you're using dhcp, do the dhcpservice logs indicate they requested addresses? | 13:36 |
ArxCruz | fungi: yes I can connect to my vm trhough 192.168.32.8 and the VM I create have 10.0.0.2 | 13:36 |
ArxCruz | it's even have floating ip assigned in one of the tests | 13:36 |
ArxCruz | | d449ae3c-96e2-4668-b759-c154a42e1f73 | teste | ACTIVE | None | Running | private=10.0.0.2 | | 13:37 |
fungi | but you can't ping the 10.0.0.2 guest from the devstack/nova compute/hypervisor host? | 13:38 |
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ArxCruz | fungi: exactly | 13:47 |
ArxCruz | fungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/58553/ | 13:48 |
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fungi | ArxCruz: do you have console access to the vm (nova novnc or something?) | 14:04 |
ArxCruz | fungi: no, novnc doesn't work on power :/ | 14:04 |
ArxCruz | you mean, the 10.0.0.2 vm right ? | 14:04 |
fungi | yeah | 14:04 |
ArxCruz | no :( | 14:05 |
ArxCruz | it's the cirros image | 14:05 |
fungi | i wonder whether you can configure your guest images to use a virtual serial console (i do that on xen virtual machines, but haven't tried it in an openstack context) | 14:05 |
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anteaya | can someone open an etherpad and tell me if they also are having issues with it today, or if it is just me? | 14:06 |
anteaya | I updated firefox yesterday, so it might just be me | 14:07 |
fungi | anteaya: seems fine to me... | 14:08 |
anteaya | when I open the etherpad, I get a warning about an unresposive script and the content slowly climbs down the page | 14:08 |
anteaya | okay | 14:08 |
fungi | anteaya: maybe tried a different pad? is the one you're opening really huge? | 14:08 |
anteaya | it is fairly large | 14:09 |
anteaya | will try a different one | 14:09 |
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fungi | i'll see if the server is having resource starvation issues | 14:09 |
anteaya | creating a new pad works | 14:10 |
anteaya | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-qa-neutron | 14:10 |
anteaya | this was the one I was trying to view | 14:10 |
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fungi | resource utilization on the etherpad server seems to be within usual tolerances | 14:13 |
anteaya | hmmm, okay | 14:14 |
fungi | but yeah, my browser is not having a lot of fun trying to open that particular pad | 14:14 |
anteaya | I have closed the pad and now my fan has calmed down, it was sucking up some cpu | 14:14 |
anteaya | hmmm, perhaps it is the size of the pad? | 14:14 |
anteaya | do we have any known limits for pad size? | 14:14 |
fungi | no idea. it is definitely causing my browser to eat up all of the 1gb of ram on this netbook and start chewing on swap space | 14:15 |
anteaya | well we have discovered there is a limit | 14:16 |
anteaya | or suggested limit | 14:16 |
fungi | it finally levelled out and finished loading | 14:16 |
anteaya | ah, okay | 14:16 |
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anteaya | I'll get one of the largest contributors to break it into smaller pieces | 14:16 |
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jroovers | anteaya, here | 14:43 |
anteaya | thanks | 14:43 |
anteaya | fungi: do you have a moment for some advice please? | 14:43 |
fungi | anteaya: sure | 14:43 |
anteaya | jroovers: submitting this patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62867/ | 14:43 |
anteaya | and then had an issue with git and submitting this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64434/ | 14:44 |
anteaya | was wondering if you could suggest the best way forward | 14:44 |
anteaya | jroovers: did you submit more than the 2 patches? | 14:44 |
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anteaya | ah great | 14:45 |
fungi | yay netsplits | 14:45 |
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anteaya | jroovers: welcome back | 14:46 |
jroovers | anteaya, sorry, not sure what happened there | 14:46 |
anteaya | net split | 14:46 |
anteaya | this was my last question for you: jroovers: did you submit more than the 2 patches? | 14:46 |
fungi | so, i guess i'm lacking some context there... what problems with git, and what specifically is advice needed for? i see two fairly similar tempest changes submitted for review | 14:46 |
fungi | one of which was abandoned in favor of the other | 14:46 |
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jroovers | fungi, yes | 14:47 |
anteaya | fungi: I am thinking the two patches should be one | 14:47 |
anteaya | and that jroovers would have made them one had he had the git knowledge to do so | 14:47 |
anteaya | so addressing the git knowledge | 14:47 |
fungi | oh, as in the intent was to submit a new patchset on 62867 rather than create a separate change? | 14:47 |
anteaya | I do believe so | 14:47 |
jroovers | fungi, yes that was my original intent - but I couldn't figure that out | 14:47 |
jroovers | fungi, so the question now is, how should I proceed? | 14:49 |
fungi | the main things which control that are that the new commit must be for the same project (tempest, nova, et cetera), target branch (master, stable/havana, milestone-proposed, and so on), and the "Change-Id" header line in the commit message has to stay the same | 14:49 |
fungi | in this case it looks like you were targeting the same project and branch with your commit, but created a commit message with a new Change-Id header line | 14:50 |
jroovers | well, I did that on purpose as I did not know how to properly merge the master into my outdated branch | 14:51 |
fungi | note too that the gerrit commit hook which git-review installs will generate a change-id and append it to your commit message if one is not already included, so most likely you created a new commit message with no change-id and git-review gave you a new one | 14:51 |
jroovers | fungi, exactly | 14:51 |
fungi | oh, so you're struggling with the topic branch rebase workflow described in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow#Long-lived_Topic_Branches ? | 14:52 |
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fungi | that entire wiki page is a good one to keep under your pillow | 14:53 |
jroovers | mm, why didn't I think about rebasing :( sorry, again, not a git genius | 14:54 |
jroovers | fungi, ok moving forward | 14:54 |
jroovers | do I abandon the new patch, reopen the old one | 14:54 |
jroovers | and rebase? | 14:54 |
anteaya | jroovers: the only thing I ask you to keep in mind, is to ask questions | 14:54 |
jroovers | anteaya: yes, I know. Sorry about that. The urge to move forward was bigger than ask questions first - happens sometimes. lesson learned. | 14:55 |
anteaya | jroovers: thanks :D | 14:55 |
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anteaya | fungi: what do you think? | 14:57 |
anteaya | work off the newest patchset, or the old one that has the history? | 14:58 |
fungi | sorry, stepped away to get a coffee refill | 14:59 |
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anteaya | mmmm coffee | 15:00 |
fungi | if you want to preserve the review history of the original, for the benefit of reviewers who have already weighed in on earlier patchsets, you would probably abandon the new one and restore the old one, then check it out and rebase it, then push a new patchset to it | 15:00 |
ekarlso | Hmm, how does python 3.3 work with eventlet ? | 15:00 |
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jroovers | fungi, anteaya, ok let me just do that - if nothing else, I can go though the process of learning how to do that | 15:01 |
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anteaya | ekarlso: I don't believe it does | 15:03 |
anteaya | ekarlso: so not at all | 15:03 |
anteaya | it's a problem | 15:03 |
fungi | ekarlso: i asked google, and the first hit was https://github.com/eventlet/eventlet/issues/6 | 15:03 |
anteaya | jroovers: awesome | 15:03 |
ekarlso | hmmm, how does ceilometer cope with python3 then ? | 15:04 |
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anteaya | ekarlso: you might ask in #openstack-ceilometer, though things seem kind of quiet in there atm | 15:07 |
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jroovers | fungi, I could use a little help with the rebasing | 15:08 |
fungi | you bet | 15:08 |
jroovers | fungi, http://paste.openstack.org/show/58574/ | 15:09 |
jroovers | fungi, not sure what to do, I'm getting that prompt when rebasing | 15:11 |
fungi | jroovers: that's the effect of using -i (interactive). it throws you into an editor with a list of the commits which diverge from the rebase branch and you can choose to pick them, squash, edit and so on | 15:12 |
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fungi | in this case just leave the default (pick) there and write/quit your editor | 15:12 |
jroovers | fungi, mm "fatal: Needed a single revision, Invalid commit name: f5c7799" | 15:13 |
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fungi | jroovers: did you maybe modify the contents of that editor session before you exited it? | 15:14 |
jroovers | fungi, I don't think I did, but I might have, sorry. Let me just retry | 15:15 |
fungi | i've not seen that error message before, but it sounds like maybe git is expressing a syntax error with the rebase instructions | 15:15 |
jroovers | fungi, if I changed anything it was maybe adding a blank line | 15:15 |
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jroovers | fungi, in any case, I'll just retry | 15:16 |
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fungi | croberts: please disable your away message. thanks! | 15:18 |
fungi | croberts: (or rather, prevent it from echoing to the channel at least) | 15:19 |
jroovers | ok fungi, i retried that | 15:19 |
jroovers | fungi, getting error now that the rebase did not complete because of a conflict | 15:20 |
jroovers | is there a simple way to just use the incoming file | 15:20 |
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jroovers | fungi, ping | 15:25 |
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fungi | yes, so this is of course the main reason for rebasing... to be able to tackle merge conflicts | 15:27 |
fungi | jroovers: if you 'git status' it should (among other things) give you a list of which files are changed incompatibly in both branches | 15:28 |
jroovers | fungi, yes, indeed | 15:28 |
fungi | the "both modified" files | 15:28 |
jroovers | fungi, yes | 15:28 |
jroovers | fungi, so is there a way to just use the incoming file and remove my version | 15:29 |
jroovers | or do I need to manually inspect that file | 15:29 |
fungi | edit each of those, looking for the <<<<<<, ======, >>>>>> markers around the old and new chunks which conflict and edit them to look the way you want | 15:29 |
jroovers | fungi, ok, so there is no automatic way to just use the incoming file (SVN, or a least my SVN client is able to do that) | 15:29 |
fungi | git will keep the conflicting context as small as possible, so hopefully there's not a lot which needs fixing | 15:30 |
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yfried | clarkb: here? | 15:30 |
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fungi | yfried: it's 7:30 am local time where he lives... he doesn't usually get active in here until closer to 18:00 utc | 15:31 |
fungi | you could checkout the file from a particular commit and replace the one in your rebase | 15:31 |
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fungi | jroovers: ^ | 15:31 |
yfried | fungi: that's ~3hr from now? | 15:32 |
yfried | fungi: tnx. I'll try then | 15:32 |
jroovers | fungi, ok, let me try to do that | 15:32 |
fungi | jroovers: but hopefully there's not a lot to fix in the conflicting version, so the editor may just make short work of it | 15:32 |
fungi | yfried: roughly, yes | 15:32 |
fungi | jroovers: it's good experience anyway, since there will be times when that is the only way to reincorporate conflicting changes on two branches in a rebase/cherry-pick/merge/whatever | 15:33 |
fungi | so getting used to what those markers look like and how to discern what to fix between them should eventually become second nature | 15:34 |
fungi | jroovers: anyway, once you've edited any of the "both modified" files into the condition you want them, 'git add' each of those files (which marks them as fixed in the rebase) and then do a 'git rebase --continue' | 15:35 |
jroovers | fungi, ok thanks | 15:35 |
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fungi | after that, you'll get a commit message editor session which you can amend as needed (might want to remove the "conflict" lines which get added to it since they're mostly noise), and then use 'git show' to see if the resulting rebased patch accidentally picked up unintended changes | 15:36 |
fungi | if so, i usually just manually edit the commit to fix them if they're not too out of control, and 'git commit --amend' again | 15:37 |
fungi | then repeat your inspection with 'git show' and if you're satisfied, 'git review' so it gets sent to gerrit as a new patchset for that change | 15:37 |
jroovers | ok, let me try to work through that :-) | 15:38 |
jroovers | so, while I'm doing that, quick side question | 15:38 |
jroovers | if I'd ever needed to rebase from a different branch | 15:38 |
jroovers | different from master that is, a patch that is not merged yet | 15:39 |
fungi | right, to create a dependency between those changes in gerrit | 15:39 |
jroovers | ok, so that is that "add dependency" section on the wiki | 15:40 |
fungi | yeah, you can check that change out into a separate branch (easy to do with 'git review -d <changenum>') and then rebase on that | 15:40 |
jroovers | fungi, so and if you are already working on a patch and you then want to create that dependency? | 15:42 |
jroovers | fungi, I reckon you would need to checkout the dependency patch and then rebase your patch on that? | 15:43 |
jroovers | fungi, ok basically the same as updating the parent commit which is also explained in that "Add dependency" section" | 15:44 |
jroovers | thanks | 15:44 |
fungi | jroovers: yep... you would commit any in-progress changes on your topic branch, checkout the parent change into a new branch, then change back to your topic branch and rebase against the other branch for the parent change instead of master | 15:44 |
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fungi | there are slightly (only slightly) simpler ways to do this with git review's -x (cherry-pick) feature if both changes are already in gerrit, but they're not recommended until you get more accustomed to how rebase works (since it's similar, just a somewhat different ordering of the workflow) | 15:47 |
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anteaya | fungi: I am trying to view the gerrit stream, what am I doing wrong? http://paste.openstack.org/show/58583/ | 15:48 |
anteaya | spotted it | 15:50 |
anteaya | example.com, d'oh | 15:50 |
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malini | hello..I have an abandoned change that I am trying to restore https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60858/ & for some weird reason I dont see the Restore Change button. I am logged into gerrit. Any pointers on whats going on ? | 15:53 |
fungi | malini: are you the change owner on it? only the change owner or a global gerrit administrator can restore an abandoned change | 15:56 |
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fungi | at least in the version of gerrit we're running. when we get on a newer gerrit release we'll be able to grant that permission to core review teams via an acl | 15:57 |
malini | fungi: I submitted the patch..So tht shud make me the owner, rt? | 15:57 |
anteaya | malini: you are listed as the owner | 15:57 |
fungi | malini: correct... it does say "Owner: Malini Kamalambal" | 15:58 |
fungi | account 6971 | 15:58 |
anteaya | malini: do you have more than one email or username associated with the account? | 15:58 |
malini | antaeya: I have more than one email id in the acct..But I am using the rackspace id as the primary | 15:58 |
anteaya | malini: go to settings | 15:59 |
fungi | the bigger concern is that there might be more than one account... https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ | 15:59 |
anteaya | what is the account id you see when you are signed in? | 15:59 |
malini | anateaya: 7498 | 15:59 |
fungi | malini: see if it says your account id is 6971 | 15:59 |
fungi | aha, so you have two accounts in gerrit | 15:59 |
anteaya | found the problem | 15:59 |
malini | aah..I didnt know I had two | 15:59 |
malini | Can I merge the two or abandon one of them? | 16:00 |
anteaya | fungi can manually | 16:00 |
fungi | your ssh username is associated with 6971 but apparently your launchpad openid is associated with 7498 | 16:00 |
anteaya | you can't | 16:00 |
jroovers | fungi, many thanks for all the help | 16:01 |
fungi | jroovers: you're welcome | 16:01 |
anteaya | jroovers: it worked? | 16:01 |
jroovers | anteaya, it did | 16:01 |
anteaya | \o/ | 16:01 |
anteaya | good questions asking jroovers | 16:01 |
jroovers | anteaya, thanks again for the guidance :-) | 16:01 |
malini | fungi, anteaya: wht are my options now? just stop using one of them? | 16:01 |
anteaya | jroovers: my pleasure | 16:01 |
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anteaya | malini: fungi is looking at your accounts in the db | 16:01 |
malini | thank you!! | 16:02 |
anteaya | fungi will tell you your options in a minute | 16:02 |
fungi | malini: for reference http://ci.openstack.org/gerrit.html#duplicate-accounts-in-gerrit | 16:02 |
anteaya | jroovers: my goal in life is to be helpful | 16:02 |
jroovers | anteaya: you are doing a pretty good job :-) | 16:03 |
anteaya | jroovers: thanks | 16:03 |
fungi | malini: i can remove the ssh username from your old account and add it to the new one, but you'll probably also need to agree to the individual cla in gerrit with your current web account | 16:03 |
jroovers | anteaya, fungi, gotta run for a while, thanks again | 16:03 |
anteaya | jroovers: cheers | 16:03 |
malini | fungi:sure..I will sign the cla | 16:03 |
malini | fungi: I signed the CLA on acct ID 7498 | 16:04 |
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fungi | malini: okay, i've moved your ssh username to the new 7498 account and cleared the contact information from the old 6971 account so that it doesn't cause any conflicts | 16:09 |
fungi | malini: you'll probably also need to re-add your ssh key at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/ssh-keys | 16:10 |
malini | fungi: does 7498 have two email IDs associated with it? | 16:11 |
malini | I login with my gmail id, but see work id as the preferred one | 16:11 |
fungi | malini: a rackspace one and a gmail one are listed in gerrit | 16:11 |
malini | fungi: & its ok to have two email ids associated with one acct, rt? | 16:12 |
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fungi | malini: yes, it's an intended feature. you should be able to see them all listed (and see which one is preferred) at https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact | 16:12 |
malini | fungi: awesome…thanks a lot !!! | 16:13 |
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malini | I think I am all set now :) Thank You fungi & anteaya ! | 16:19 |
fungi | malini: you're welcome | 16:22 |
spredzy | hi, for some reason I have this url https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/124256 i being redirected to something that is irrevelant, who should I address the problem to ? | 16:23 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 124256 in gnome-app-install "gnome-app-install crashed with TypeError in show_description() (dup-of: 122914)" [Undecided,New] | 16:23 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 122914 in gnome-app-install "gnome-app-install crashed with TypeError in show_description()" [Undecided,Fix released] | 16:23 |
fungi | malini: i also restored 60858 for you since i suspect the differing account id numbers would have caused gerrit to prevent you from doing that | 16:23 |
dkranz | fungi: Do we throw away log file for older builds but keep the console files? | 16:24 |
fungi | spredzy: https://review.openstack.org/64308 should fix it | 16:24 |
jeblair | dkranz: we treat all the files the same | 16:25 |
fungi | dkranz: no, we throw away all logs on logs.o.o at the same time (6 months age) | 16:25 |
malini | fungi: will I have issues with any other outstanding patches I have - like this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63449/ | 16:25 |
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spredzy | fungi, ok thanks for the info | 16:25 |
dkranz | jeblair. fungi : ok, then there is some strange problem with logstash. I will send an email as there are too many details. | 16:25 |
fungi | malini: you shouldn't have any trouble with your other changes unless they get abandoned (since you won't be able to restore them and would need to ask for help in here) | 16:26 |
malini | fungi: I'll try to keep that one alive :) | 16:26 |
malini | Thanks again! | 16:26 |
fungi | malini: but any new changes you upload will have your current account as the owner rather than your old one | 16:26 |
fungi | dkranz: logstash.o.o and logs.o.o expire data independently (2 weeks on the former, i believe), but i think data is still dropped for all files at a consistent time regardless of the log file name | 16:28 |
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dkranz | fungi: Makes sense. I am constructing a kind of bug report for a strange issues. | 16:29 |
fungi | can't wait to read it | 16:31 |
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dkranz | fungi: logstash is failing to find a match for "Domain not found: no domain with matching uuid" in http://logs.openstack.org/30/52930/14/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/12d79d2/logs/screen-ceilometer-acompute.txt.gz even though it is there. | 16:33 |
dkranz | fungi: I searched with message:"Domain not found: no domain with matching uuid" AND filename:"logs/screen-ceilometer-acompute.txt" | 16:34 |
dkranz | fungi: I find a hit in the console.html and see the error message in the acompute log but logstash is not seeing it in acompute | 16:34 |
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jeblair | dkranz: i don't think acompute is indexed in logstash | 16:38 |
fungi | dkranz: logstash doesn't index debug log lines, for what it's worth (turned out to be too much data). i haven't looked yet to see what level that line is being reported at | 16:38 |
fungi | jeblair: oh, good point | 16:38 |
fungi | i didn't even think about that | 16:38 |
dkranz | jeblair: Ouch. Is there a reason? | 16:38 |
jeblair | dkranz: people keep adding new log files? :) | 16:38 |
dkranz | jeblair: This has driven me nuts for the last two hours! | 16:39 |
dkranz | jeblair: How do I add it? | 16:39 |
dkranz | jeblair: I'm getting rid of whitelist entries and trying to verify that they did not happen in the last two weeks! | 16:39 |
jeblair | dkranz: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/logstash/jenkins-log-client.yaml | 16:40 |
dkranz | jeblair: ok, thanks. I'll fix this. | 16:40 |
jeblair | dkranz: if it's oslo log format, it should be fairly easy to add | 16:40 |
jeblair | dkranz: if it's not one of the log formats already defined, then logstash will need to be taught to parse it: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/logstash/indexer.conf.erb | 16:41 |
dkranz | jeblair: Actually there are lots missing, including all the ceilo files. | 16:41 |
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dkranz | jeblair: I am going to change tempest to dump all log errors instead as we now do for neutron. | 16:42 |
dkranz | jeblair: We should do that anyway. | 16:42 |
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jeblair | dkranz: i don't understand "I am going to change tempest to dump all log errors instead as we now do for neutron." | 16:42 |
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dkranz | jeblair: RIght now only non-whitelisted errors are dumped into the logs. | 16:43 |
dkranz | jeblair: the console I mean | 16:43 |
dkranz | jeblair: We made an exception for neutron because we gave up on a whitelist | 16:43 |
dkranz | jeblair: Too many issues | 16:43 |
jeblair | dkranz: oh, ok. good idea. will they be annotated or in different sections so you can see what's whitelisted and what's not? | 16:43 |
dkranz | jeblair: sdague and I discussed this before holidays | 16:43 |
dkranz | jeblair: They will be annotated as whitelisted or not | 16:44 |
dkranz | jeblair: Same sections as now, per log file | 16:44 |
jeblair | dkranz: cool | 16:45 |
dkranz | jeblair: It's still kind of a problem that log files are missing from logstash. I don't think many people know they have to do that manually | 16:45 |
dkranz | jeblair: None of the ceilo logs are there | 16:45 |
jeblair | dkranz: we can re-process old builds if you need it. | 16:45 |
dkranz | jeblair: I don't think it's necessary but we should fix it going forward. | 16:46 |
dkranz | jeblair: Is keeping this up to date on infra or projects that have log files? | 16:46 |
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jeblair | dkranz: anyone who wants a log file indexed can add it or request it be added. | 16:49 |
dkranz | jeblair: ok, I'll send out an email about this so more people will know. | 16:50 |
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jeblair | dkranz: we can't automatically index all log files because some human work is needed to understand the formats, and it's not useful to index everything | 16:50 |
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dkranz | jeblair: I understand. But clearly the ceilometer log files should be there. | 16:51 |
jeblair | dkranz: indexing comes at a cost, not only in space, but mostly in time (in terms of the speed of elasticsearch) | 16:51 |
jeblair | dkranz: sure, just letting you know why it's not automatic. | 16:51 |
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dkranz | jeblair: I guess we don't yet have a ceilo bug in elastic recheck :) | 16:51 |
jeblair | good for ceilo! :) | 16:52 |
dkranz | jeblair: Yes, they have also been most aggressive at getting rid of bogus ERRORs | 16:52 |
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banix | Have just started setting up our 3rd party testing setup and have a few questions; I have jenkins running with Gerrit plugin and after setting up the info about the Gerrit server the Test Connection returns Success but on top of the page I get the following: | 17:04 |
banix | The connection to Gerrit is down! Check your settings and the Gerrit server. | 17:04 |
banix | Since the connection is down, Jenkins cannot determine the Gerrit version. So all Gerrit features have been enabled. | 17:04 |
openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Publish elastic-recheck documentation. https://review.openstack.org/61300 | 17:04 |
banix | What am I doing wrong? | 17:05 |
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fungi | banix: did you try a jenkins restart after enabling/configuring the plugin? | 17:09 |
banix | no | 17:10 |
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fungi | banix: in the past i've seen jenkins sometimes fail to properly represent which plugins need a jenkins service restart when being enabled/configured | 17:10 |
banix | fungi: thanks. let me do that. | 17:11 |
fungi | banix: i'm digging through the documentation for that plugin to see whether it indicates a jenkins restart is needed | 17:12 |
banix | fungi: That did it; | 17:12 |
banix | I get: The connected Gerrit's version is a snapshot version. Jenkins cannot fully determine what features are available, so all features have been enabled. | 17:12 |
banix | I suppose that is the expected response. | 17:13 |
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fungi | banix: yeah, that sounds better. we do run a fork of 2.4.4 so it may report as a snapshot in the plugin, not sure since we don't actually use it upstream | 17:14 |
banix | Let me ask one more question; As I go through setting things up I do not want to mess things up on the review system by sending bogus reviews. Is there a knob I can use to make sure I do not send anything back. | 17:15 |
fungi | banix: you might start by configuring it only to watch changes to openstack-dev/sandbox and then upload some test changes there | 17:16 |
fungi | not sure what level of control the trigger plugin gives you over commenting/voting (i'd need to read the docs for it myself) | 17:17 |
banix | fungi: thanks | 17:18 |
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fungi | jeblair: clarkb: just a heads up, i'm working from the beach this week, so intend to be away from the computer around 17:00-21:00 utc daily to go out and do things, but will be back in the evenings to collaborate on stuff | 17:18 |
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clarkb | morning | 17:20 |
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clarkb | yfried: I am here now | 17:23 |
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yfried | clarkb: good morning | 17:23 |
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clarkb | dkranz: I disagree about clearly ceilo should be there. We don't test it at all iirc | 17:25 |
clarkb | dkranz: so there is little value in indexing those logs | 17:25 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Publish elastic-recheck documentation. https://review.openstack.org/61300 | 17:25 |
clarkb | dkranz: I am fine with indexing those logs if there is value in it, but my understanding is that the value is minimal currently | 17:26 |
yfried | clarkb: I posted a question to the mailing list about fwaas and found out that the guys writing neutron fwaas are unfamiliar with the problem you mentioned. They also didn't know it was disabled. Could you please post to the thread why fwaas is disabled at the moment? | 17:26 |
clarkb | yfried: sure, let me dig up the history on that and I will repsond | 17:26 |
yfried | clarkb: tnx | 17:26 |
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dkranz | clarkb: Sure. There are four patches in the tempest queue around adding ceilometer tests. | 17:28 |
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clarkb | to top post or not to top post | 17:30 |
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fungi | i find i spend an inordinate amount of time reformatting the snipped thread history in my replies because so many list participants don't know how to not top-post | 17:31 |
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clarkb | I am just going to break the trend and bottom post :) | 17:32 |
dkranz | clarkb: I was going to send out an email sharing the fact that a log file has to be entered manually for it to be indexed by logstash, along with a list of log files that are in the logs dir of builds but not in logstash. | 17:32 |
dkranz | clarkb: I got burned this morning by not knowing this. | 17:32 |
dkranz | clarkb: I really don't want to get into telling people whether or not their logs should be indexed but you can certainly reply | 17:33 |
clarkb | dkranz: it is easy to check... | 17:34 |
clarkb | search for filename:"nameofyourfile" | 17:34 |
dkranz | clarkb: What is easy to check? | 17:34 |
clarkb | dkranz: whether or not the file is indexed | 17:34 |
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zaro | morning | 17:35 |
dkranz | clarkb: Yes, but you first have to know that it is a manual process and that it is not done "automatically" by infra. | 17:35 |
clarkb | dkranz: why? | 17:35 |
clarkb | you can just ask it if the data is there... | 17:35 |
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clarkb | knowing that it is a manual process helps understand the larger toolset but isn't necessary to see if the data is available | 17:35 |
dkranz | clarkb: This morning I was trying to see if it was ok to remove a ceilo whitelist entry since one of my bugs was closed. | 17:36 |
dkranz | clarkb: So I used logstash to check it it had shown up since the commit | 17:36 |
dkranz | clarkb: But I saw nothing for any date and became suspicious | 17:37 |
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dkranz | clarkb: So now I know but it is not obvious | 17:37 |
dkranz | clarkb: ANd there are missing files in logstash which I'll bet are missing only because folks don't know they have to be added | 17:37 |
dkranz | clarkb: I assumed (reasonable, IMO) that doing a logstash search was the same as searching all the project logs from a build, but over all builds in a given time period but I was wrong. | 17:39 |
clarkb | unfortunately the lack of logging consistency makes that very hard :) which is why my suggestion is to actually search for any data before specific data | 17:40 |
clarkb | gives you a very quick answer on whether or not the data is available | 17:40 |
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clarkb | yfried: responded | 17:49 |
jeblair | fungi: enjoy! | 17:50 |
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dkranz | clarkb: It looks like the change to dump logs for all builds rather than just on success is not working. Seeing this: | 17:58 |
dkranz | clarkb: /opt/stack/new/devstack-gate/devstack-vm-gate.sh: line 349: [[: stable/grizzly: division by 0 (error token is "grizzly") | 17:58 |
jeblair | dkranz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63934/ | 17:58 |
dkranz | jeblair: I see | 17:59 |
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dkranz | jeblair: So right now we will not actually fail jobs with new bogus ERRORs | 18:00 |
jeblair | dkranz: i believe that's the case. | 18:04 |
dkranz | jeblair: ok, hopefully it will get fixed soon. I just noticed it checking on how my change do dump all errors looked. But didn't see any. | 18:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Setup tooling and jobs for openstack Gerrit ver 2.8 and beyond https://review.openstack.org/60348 | 18:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Aaron Greengrass proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Expands ldap support in the gerrit module to deal with nonstandard ldap configurations. https://review.openstack.org/64456 | 18:49 |
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bknudson | lately it seems like bug refs in gerrit aren't linking to launchpad... | 18:56 |
bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62815/ | 18:56 |
bknudson | has "bug 1154809" in a comment | 18:56 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1154809 in python-keystoneclient "Volume detach fails via OSAPI: AmbiguousEndpoints" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154809 | 18:56 |
jeblair | bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64308/ | 18:57 |
bknudson | but the link is to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/1154809,n,z rather than the launchpad bug (thanks uvirtbot) | 18:57 |
bknudson | jeblair: ok, thanks! | 18:57 |
bknudson | don't all changeid's begin with I? | 19:00 |
clarkb | bknudson: jeblair: I went ahead and approved it, will need a gerrit restart to take affect | 19:00 |
jeblair | bknudson: there's also git sha links | 19:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Match Gerrit changeid after all other commentlinks https://review.openstack.org/64308 | 19:02 |
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clarkb | jeblair: I am going to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64212/ (just a heads up as you didn't approve it) | 19:09 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Use JJB --delete-old option to keep job list clean https://review.openstack.org/64212 | 19:12 |
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jeblair | clarkb: thx; one of us can probably fix things if it deletes all the jobs. :) | 19:21 |
clarkb | yup easy enough to rerun by hand without that option | 19:22 |
clarkb | jeblair: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62069/ I think we can remove your -2 now that the transaction stuff is in jeepyb | 19:22 |
clarkb | is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62739/2/modules/jenkins/manifests/params.pp an indication we should be thinking about mariadb support? | 19:24 |
reed | fungi, clarkb, since these merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61901/ does it mean that we're sending these messages now? | 19:24 |
clarkb | reed: no, the dryrun option is provided so taht we can observe it before mail is sent | 19:24 |
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reed | clarkb, so we're dryrunning them? | 19:25 |
clarkb | yup | 19:25 |
reed | thanks | 19:25 |
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ArxCruz | fungi: figure out the problem with ping and ssh on cirros image | 19:47 |
ArxCruz | the image is failing to start, with an exception, even though it's showing as ACTIVE in nova, and Running in virsh | 19:48 |
bknudson | does reviewday provide the raw data? (like json) | 19:53 |
clarkb | I don't think so | 19:54 |
clarkb | pleia2: ^ ? | 19:54 |
bknudson | looks like it generates index.html. | 19:56 |
bknudson | would be interesting to integrate reviewday into next-review | 19:56 |
jeblair | bknudson: yeah, it aggregates data from other public sources, like lp, so it probably didn't occur originally that a json output of that would be useful... | 19:58 |
jeblair | bknudson: but it does take a long time to run, so i could see how it would be | 19:59 |
jeblair | bknudson: you could probably have it spit one out pretty easily: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/reviewday | 19:59 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Unpin keyring, just skip keyring 2.0 https://review.openstack.org/58362 | 20:18 |
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harlowja | qq, if anyone is around | 20:23 |
bknudson | I tried running reviewday locally and it doesn't get any data for some reason. | 20:23 |
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bknudson | seems like it will be easy enough to generate json. | 20:24 |
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clarkb | harlowja: go for it | 20:28 |
harlowja | clarkb thx, just wondering about a testing scenario for taskflow that i'm not exactly sure how to do, taskflow has a backend that can interact with mysql (and it'd be nice to use that instead of sqlite for testing, or in addition to sqlite), and was wondering how hard is it to do that (like setup mysql along with taskflow so that taskflow tests can use it)? | 20:29 |
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clarkb | harlowja: all of the unittests slaves have postgres, mysql, and zookeeper available to them. On the centos machines mongodb is available as well | 20:30 |
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harlowja | intersting | 20:30 |
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clarkb | harlowja: so you can just use them on those slaves. For the single use slaves, the job setup scripts have sudo rights and can do whatever they like | 20:30 |
harlowja | cool, so doesn't seem like it would be that hard | 20:31 |
clarkb | it shouldn't be. You can look at the nova DB migration tests to see how to use the DB servers running on the slaves and devstack gate + devstack setup and install mysql or postgres every job run | 20:32 |
harlowja | kk, thx clarkb | 20:32 |
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mtaylor | morning all | 20:43 |
clarkb | mtaylor: woah its you different nick too | 20:44 |
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mordred | clarkb: thanks. ewww | 20:45 |
jeblair | mordred: o/ | 20:45 |
mordred | jeblair: so, we went to the big bend hot springs two mornings ago - were there 2 hours - from dawn to the sun cresting the mountains ... | 20:46 |
bknudson | I think my reviewday problem is because I don't have keys for "ssh review.openstack.org gerrit query ..." | 20:46 |
mordred | jeblair: nobody else there - had it all to ourselves | 20:46 |
jeblair | bknudson: anyone can do that, just make sure you have the right port "-P 29418" | 20:46 |
mordred | jeblair: how're things round here? | 20:47 |
jeblair | mordred: fairly quiet | 20:47 |
mordred | jeblair: excellent | 20:47 |
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bknudson | the port didn't help, tried ssh review.openstack.org -p29418 gerrit query "status: open project: openstack/keystone branch: master" | 20:52 |
bknudson | got "Permission denied (publickey)." | 20:52 |
bknudson | maybe I've got something set up wrong in env | 20:52 |
jeblair | bknudson: should be the regular key you use with gerrit; that command wfm. | 20:52 |
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bknudson | jeblair: ah, I needed -l blk-u | 20:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Aaron Greengrass proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Expands ldap to deal with nonstandard ldap configs. https://review.openstack.org/64456 | 21:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Generate JSON https://review.openstack.org/64471 | 21:26 |
bknudson | there it is | 21:26 |
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clarkb | jeblair: want to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62984/ before I approve it? that change should trigger the jjb job cleanup | 21:43 |
jeblair | clarkb: ack | 21:44 |
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jeblair | aprvd | 21:45 |
openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Cleanup projects https://review.openstack.org/64474 | 21:46 |
openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed a change to openstack-infra/reviewday: Add identity-api to projects https://review.openstack.org/64475 | 21:46 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Further setup of openstack-doc-tools https://review.openstack.org/62984 | 21:47 |
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clarkb | jeblair: re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63019/ not sure what sort of review we want to give changes like that | 21:57 |
clarkb | jeblair: but it has two +2s and I don't see anything wrong with it. | 21:57 |
jeblair | clarkb: i think fungi was getting at the idea that we should let it sit in review for a bit for people to object to the idea of changing the default.... | 21:58 |
clarkb | oh I see | 21:58 |
jeblair | clarkb: but it's been in gerrit for a while and is easily revertable if people don't like it, so i think it's ready to merge whenever. | 21:59 |
fungi | yep, agreed | 22:00 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: cacti: re-run data queries each time we try to add graphs https://review.openstack.org/63029 | 22:00 |
fungi | those who snooze, lose. i for one welcome our high-density overlords | 22:00 |
clarkb | jeblair: fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63190/4 I am slightly worried that may end up doing nasty things if /dev is configured just right on peoples boxes | 22:01 |
fungi | the irony was i added my "let it sit a bit" comment just before i saw phil day objecting to the ephemeral filesystem default change a couple days ago | 22:01 |
fungi | clarkb: are you suggesting it should move up a layer into the launch/nodepool-prep scripts, or just that it needs extra safeguards? | 22:04 |
clarkb | I am thinking moving to a layer that folks won't blindly execute to install puppet would be good | 22:05 |
clarkb | a script called install_puppet.sh should install puppet, not also format on of your devices... | 22:05 |
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jeblair | clarkb: hrm; i see your point (though it's designed to install puppet for the purpose of turning a node into an infra-style machine)... | 22:07 |
jeblair | but we could have launch-node.py execute a different script for that | 22:08 |
jeblair | so launch-node runs "prepare-node" and then "install-puppet" | 22:08 |
fungi | s/install_puppet.sh/destroy_system_and_install_puppet.sh/ | 22:08 |
jeblair | or that | 22:09 |
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fungi | another possibility is that launch/prep scripts just touch a top-level file or pass an envvar as a flag which install_puppet.sh looks for to know it's being run in that context | 22:12 |
mikal | Good morning | 22:12 |
mikal | So, I think I found a zuul bug last night | 22:12 |
fungi | allowing us to keep the logic in that script still | 22:12 |
mikal | The hard way of course | 22:12 |
fungi | mikal: yes, i'm curious to hear the details on this one--been waiting for the sun to rise over there | 22:13 |
jeblair | fungi: that would work too | 22:13 |
mikal | So... one problem is I don't have heaps of debuggin detail | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for Github notifier https://review.openstack.org/63583 | 22:13 |
mikal | But the punch line is that the git repo that zuul maintains had a patch merged to master that wasn't merged in the upstream master | 22:14 |
jeblair | i'm waiting to read about the zuul bug and either be helpful or pretend i'm not here | 22:14 |
mikal | And that caused a bunch of our test runs to fail | 22:14 |
mikal | Heh | 22:14 |
mikal | I've kept the repo if that helps, and we have debug logging turned on in zuul | 22:14 |
mikal | But I'm not sure where to start looking | 22:14 |
jeblair | mikal: so the actual branches in the repo don't matter so much as the zuul refs | 22:14 |
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mikal | jeblair: hmmm, we were seeing the workers have an invalid master as well, which does matter for our tests | 22:15 |
mikal | (We do a db upgrade to the start of master _before_ we test the patchset) | 22:15 |
jeblair | mikal: best way to do that is to use git.o.o to prep your worker repos | 22:16 |
jeblair | mikal: basically, the zuul repos are unreliable as sources of git data _other_ than the zuul refs | 22:16 |
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mikal | Hmmm, ok | 22:16 |
jeblair | mikal: perhaps it's a documentation bug then. i admit, that might be a handy thing for someone to know. | 22:17 |
mikal | Yeah, I'm pretty sure turbo hipster is cloning the git repo from the zuul instance | 22:17 |
fungi | yeah, our tests fetch all official refs from a separate reliable remote, and only fetch zuul's scenario refs from the git repos on the zuul server | 22:18 |
mikal | Yeah, TH is definitely cloning the zuul repo | 22:18 |
jeblair | mikal: i'd expect that as long as you ended up with an valid local repo, you should still be able to fetch the zuul ref and do a hard reset to it... | 22:18 |
mikal | That's relatively easy for me to change | 22:18 |
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mikal | jeblair: so the problem was that master had a schema version that the patchset didn't | 22:19 |
mikal | jeblair: so "db sync" failed with a version missing error | 22:19 |
jeblair | mikal: do you do a hard reset to the zuul ref? | 22:19 |
jeblair | mikal: or do you merge the zuul ref? | 22:19 |
mikal | We do a reset() on the master branch, then a fetch() and a checkout() of the testing reference | 22:20 |
mikal | I'm not 100% sure if reset() is a hard reset. I suspect soft. | 22:20 |
mikal | But I think cloning git.o.o is a good idea | 22:21 |
jeblair | mikal: i'd recommend using this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/jenkins/files/slave_scripts/gerrit-git-prep.sh | 22:21 |
fungi | mikal: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/jenkins/files/slave_scripts/gerrit-git-prep.sh | 22:21 |
fungi | heh | 22:21 |
mikal | As mentioned, we need a clean master as well as the testing reference | 22:21 |
jeblair | mikal: you can use that script as-is (it's fully parameterized); or you can just follow the steps in it. it's time-hardened. :) | 22:21 |
mikal | Cool | 22:22 |
mikal | I will steal it sometime today then | 22:22 |
jeblair | mikal: why do you need a clean master? | 22:22 |
fungi | but yeah, you could reset --hard origin/master, then do whatever you need (or checkout -b it from there) then reset --hard again to the zuul ref | 22:22 |
mikal | jeblair: because we run it before we run the patchset | 22:23 |
jeblair | mikal: ak | 22:23 |
jeblair | ah | 22:23 |
mikal | jeblair: we upgrade the db to the state of master, and then test the patchset | 22:23 |
mikal | to ensure upgradability | 22:23 |
mikal | But one of the changes I made chasing this is that we now do an entirely new clone of a repo per test | 22:23 |
mikal | So if I move that clone to git.o.o I think that will help a lot | 22:23 |
jeblair | mikal: (fyi, the reason the branches in zuul are garbage is because the python git module is not sophisticated enough to do merge operations outside of a working copy, so the zuul repo is the working copy as it builds the zuul refs) | 22:24 |
fungi | shouldn't need to re-clone on every test... that's fairly inefficient (especially for projects as large as nova) | 22:24 |
jeblair | mikal: yeah, if you could avoid re-cloning, that would be great. :) | 22:24 |
jeblair | we were never even that mean to github. :) | 22:24 |
mikal | Heh | 22:25 |
mikal | Well, if you're good... | 22:25 |
mikal | I can turn that off again now that I understand the problem more | 22:25 |
jeblair | mikal: yeah, gerrit-git-prep will work fine with long-running workspaces | 22:25 |
fungi | we have proved that (and when it hasn't for some corner case, we have fixed that) | 22:26 |
jeblair | mikal: or if you adopt the devstack-gate approach of throwaway nodes, what we do there is clone the repos for the snapshot image, so the delta to current master is < 24h. | 22:26 |
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mikal | jeblair: I'd like to move to nodepool, it was just one problem too many for now | 22:28 |
mikal | jeblair: perhaps I can trick you into helping me do it at the atc meetup | 22:29 |
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jeblair | mikal: i'm easily fooled and you're a regular tom sawyer. | 22:32 |
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* fungi will let jhesketh white-wash that fence | 22:35 | |
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mordred | don't we have hipsters to do that? | 22:43 |
mordred | fungi: http://www.thebeveragejournal.com/assets/fireflymoonshine.jpg | 22:43 |
mordred | fungi: look at what the hipsters are doing now | 22:43 |
fungi | if it doesn't make you go blind, it wasn't distilled in a proper chevy radiator | 22:44 |
mordred | fungi: ++ | 22:45 |
fungi | mordred: that is a pretty frightening turn of events though | 22:45 |
mordred | fungi: right? I mean ... blueberry moonshine? | 22:45 |
fungi | the only moonshine is the clear kind in the unlabeled mason jar. great for cleaning battery terminals too | 22:46 |
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clarkb | is that the legal moonshine stuff that is being made now? | 22:51 |
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mordred | clarkb: yeah | 23:20 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Rename launchpad parameter to group https://review.openstack.org/63157 | 23:27 |
mordred | yay! | 23:27 |
jeblair | mordred: now we _have_ to switch to storyboard, and soon, because that's really confusing with launchpad. :) | 23:28 |
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fungi | i consider that more kindling on the fire | 23:31 |
mordred | jeblair: well, that makes it much easier for me to write the storyboard patch to support reading projects.yaml :) | 23:32 |
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harlowja | could i bug anyone for a +2/approve on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53974/ | 23:39 |
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harlowja | thx clarkb | 23:43 |
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clarkb | jeblair: I just found the "fix hacking" zuul changes. maybe we can be more explicit by removing hacking from zuul and friends completely? | 23:44 |
jeblair | clarkb: well, we discussed adding a comment indicating that it's on purpose, and not an oversight... | 23:44 |
jeblair | clarkb: but monty has convinced me there are some things we could benefit from hacking | 23:45 |
clarkb | jeblair: I can live with that as long as we ignore 302 :) | 23:45 |
jeblair | clarkb: so i'd like to figure out how we do that (i think py3k compat is a good idea; licenses are good; am ambivalent about sorting imports; and don't get me started on space and puncuation checks). | 23:46 |
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jeblair | clarkb: anyway, i'm thinking some beers in australia might help. | 23:47 |
clarkb | ++ | 23:47 |
clarkb | jeblair: when do you get on a plane for that? I leave Friday evening | 23:47 |
jeblair | clarkb: same; and get there sunday afternoon! it's so far away! | 23:47 |
clarkb | yup I am going through dubai on my way there | 23:48 |
clarkb | going the other way around is slightly more flight time but less time overall (fewer layovers) | 23:48 |
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anteaya | clarkb jeblair where are you staying? | 23:53 |
jeblair | anteaya: four points | 23:53 |
clarkb | hilton | 23:53 |
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mikal | When do you get into Perth? | 23:54 |
mikal | What time? | 23:54 |
anteaya | I'm at the hilton too | 23:54 |
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clarkb | mikal: sunday early afternoon iirc | 23:54 |
anteaya | I had a bad four point experience in Mississagua | 23:55 |
pleia2 | anteaya: me too, want to do beach on saturday? :) | 23:55 |
anteaya | pleia2: beach yes | 23:55 |
* anteaya check iternary | 23:55 | |
mikal | So, there's conference rego on Sunday, which I'd recommend people do to avoid a crowd | 23:55 |
mikal | And so you can sleep in Monday | 23:55 |
mikal | mordred: I also wanted to talk to you about the OpenStack miniconf... | 23:55 |
jeblair | mikal: 4:30pm, Sun 5 Jan | 23:55 |
mikal | jeblair: hmmm, that's too late for rego unfortunately | 23:56 |
anteaya | flight lands at 2:10pm | 23:56 |
mikal | jeblair: rego closes at 5pm IIRC | 23:56 |
anteaya | so should be available for socializing around 4pm I think | 23:56 |
anteaya | I'll be grumpy | 23:56 |
mikal | Heh | 23:56 |
pleia2 | hah | 23:56 |
mikal | I have a thing at 6pm, but I am sure I can sneak in a beer before it if you're interested | 23:56 |
jeblair | mikal: i just learned i'm speaking at the ci miniconf on monday, hopefully early | 23:56 |
anteaya | just giving you the heads up | 23:56 |
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mikal | jeblair: ahh yeah, the program for that miniconf is very OpenStack centric, which amuses me | 23:57 |
jeblair | mikal: i'm going to give a ci overview talk, and try to mention all the related talks later in the week (including yours!) | 23:57 |
clarkb | 12:25pm for me right after noon | 23:57 |
mikal | jeblair: yeah, I figured I'd camp in that miniconf on Monday and be sarcastic | 23:57 |
mikal | clarkb: is that final flight domestic? | 23:57 |
clarkb | mikal: no, from dubai | 23:58 |
mikal | Oh, ok | 23:58 |
mikal | I get in about then, but domestic obviously | 23:58 |
jeblair | mikal: i count 4 openstack-itself related talks in the main program, and 4 openstack-infra talks (!) i think that's pretty cool. :) | 23:58 |
clarkb | I am seattle to dubai, dubai to perth | 23:58 |
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jeblair | mikal: openstack-itself has a miniconf, and well, i expect us to be well represented in the ci miniconf as you say. :) | 23:58 |
mikal | Well, people whine that there's too much openstack content, but what they're really saying is that they wised gnome was still cool like it was ten years ago | 23:58 |
jeblair | mikal: heh | 23:59 |
mikal | s/wised/wished/ | 23:59 |
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