| fungi | it may make sense to reapply puppet configuration first to reset as much of that as possible | 00:00 |
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| fungi | since that will hopefully fix ownership and permissions back on any critical files we tracked in the manifest | 00:00 |
| fungi | however, that will also undo local edits you've done to, for example, the apache vhost so you'd need to remember to redo those if so | 00:01 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i'd like to merge 63019. i think the best way to get more feedback on it at this point is to start running it and see if people feel strongly about it. it's completly (and trivially) reversible, so i think doing so is low-cost. | 00:15 |
| jeblair | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63019/ | 00:16 |
| jeblair | (i'm personally in favor of it; it looks like the original sketches i drew when i designed nnfi) | 00:16 |
| Alex_Gaynor | jeblair: complaint about the code: if you `command click` the link to the review, it still minimizes the box :( | 00:16 |
| Alex_Gaynor | jeblair: probably the minification shouldn't happen if a modifier key is held down | 00:17 |
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| jeblair | Alex_Gaynor: i think even a regular click on the link causes it | 00:18 |
| Alex_Gaynor | jeblair: it does, but if you're leaving hte page who cares ;) | 00:18 |
| jeblair | Alex_Gaynor: it still bothers me a little (it provides the wrong kind of visual feedback -- you clicked to leave the page, not to modify it, why is it being modified?) but i agree it has less of a real effect | 00:19 |
| jeblair | Alex_Gaynor: either solution (don't change when clicking the link, or don't change when holding a modifier would be an improvement) | 00:20 |
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| fungi | jeblair: i'm fine with it merging, i just didn't want to approve it myself if there were people who still wanted to weigh in, as opposed to the typical "2x +2 and you're in" | 00:49 |
| fungi | at this point it's been stable for about a week with no objections, so seems like it's had plenty of time now | 00:51 |
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| clarkb | sqlalchemy 0.9.0 is a thing now | 00:53 |
| clarkb | they warn that pinning will probably be necessary :/ | 00:54 |
| fungi | a "working" thing, or a "broken" thing? (or do we not yet know whether the cesium atom decayed and released the cyanide gas canister?) | 00:54 |
| clarkb | I think they consider it working. I highly doubt openstack will work with it | 00:55 |
| clarkb | but it is on pypi | 00:55 |
| zaro | clarkb, jeblair, fungi : please review-dev.o.o a quick test run. it finally looks to be working now. | 00:57 |
| fungi | zaro: funny, i had just now re-checked it on a whim. looks good so far! | 00:57 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: zuul status: Collapse changes by default https://review.openstack.org/63019 | 00:57 |
| clarkb | zaro: I notice that the plugins list is empty, does that mean even the default plugins are not installed? | 00:57 |
| zaro | found one problem. new user signup, agreeing to license causes don't have permission error. | 00:58 |
| clarkb | zaro: did the upgrade kill the CLA signing? I have to resign the CLA looks like | 00:59 |
| zaro | gotta head out now. but will check the .war i used. i thought it was the _full_ released one, but might be just gerrit without plugins. | 00:59 |
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| fungi | clarkb: zaro: agreed, it seems to think i haven't signed the icla, even though the db still has my entry in there as valid | 01:10 |
| fungi | and trying to agree to it again is giving me "The page you requested was not found, or you do not have permission to view this page." | 01:10 |
| fungi | quick, to the logs! | 01:10 |
| jog0 | WAT https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63567/ | 01:11 |
| clarkb | jog0: welcome to the jungle | 01:12 |
| * jog0 carefully his steps and walks away | 01:13 | |
| clarkb | jog0: tl;dr I think that is what happens when you have users that don't use git review | 01:13 |
| jog0 | backtraces ^ | 01:13 |
| clarkb | it is possible to push specific commits without their dependencies | 01:13 |
| jog0 | clarkb: o_O | 01:13 |
| clarkb | I am trying to remember the circumstances around that | 01:13 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: didn't you run into that once? | 01:14 |
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| clarkb | jog0: basically that change will need to be rebased and you can ask the contributor how they pushed it in the first place | 01:15 |
| clarkb | chances are drafts, no git review, or cherry pick are involved | 01:15 |
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| jog0 | clarkb: done | 01:17 |
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| fungi | clarkb: zaro: the only anomalous thing i can find in the gerrit and apache logs so far is that my browser is trying (and failing) to get /accounts/self/avatar?s=100 | 01:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: silly avatars | 01:18 |
| fungi | and i don't think that would be likely to cause the icla weirdness | 01:18 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I agree | 01:19 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: run into what? | 01:19 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: cannot merge because parent commit is unknown | 01:19 |
| clarkb | in gerrit | 01:19 |
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| fungi | clarkb: what's weird is that zuul was able to check out the change successfully so that tests could be run | 01:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya, I think the parent may be in git but not tracked as a change in gerrit | 01:22 |
| fungi | agreed, trying to see if i can tell how/why | 01:23 |
| fungi | git log claims the parent change is I6683c41d39685dcb7f7a619a36210a987c9e9825 | 01:23 |
| fungi | a.k.a. https://review.openstack.org/62819 | 01:24 |
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| fungi | but its sha in the git log (de7ad2c) is not the sha of any of the patchsets for that change | 01:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: and patchset 4 of the broken change depends on the previous patchset of 62819 | 01:25 |
| clarkb | somehow they got detached | 01:25 |
| clarkb | there is a group of users out there not using git-review because apparently they were told that was a work around for the auto rebasing (which we actually want in most cases) | 01:26 |
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| clarkb | does 62819 have a draft patchset 10? | 01:27 |
| fungi | doesn't seem to, no | 01:29 |
| fungi | however git log claims "CommitDate: Tue Dec 31 11:14:40 2013 +0800" for 62819, which is newer than the last patchset in gerrit | 01:30 |
| fungi | about two minutes earlier than the latest patchset for 63567 | 01:31 |
| fungi | so i suspect that the author rebased them, but then only pushed the tip commit to review rather than the parent with it | 01:32 |
| fungi | er, but then how did de7ad2c get into gerrit... | 01:33 |
| * mordred is a fan of our new review-dev overlord | 01:34 | |
| clarkb | fungi: de7ad2c got in because it was dragged in by the broken change | 01:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: so the git bits have it but gerrit never saw it | 01:34 |
| fungi | mmm... that seems like a bit of an oversight, that gerrit allows that to happen at all, but i guess i'm overlooking some reason why that's acceptable or possibly even necessary under some circumstances | 01:36 |
| clarkb | I think it is a bug | 01:36 |
| lifeless | isn't it because gerrit does a merge not a rebase, to bring revisions in ? | 01:38 |
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| lifeless | If the rev being merged had a dep which was evolved then landed, the prior change id shows as merged | 01:39 |
| lifeless | in gerrit's head, but not in gits head. | 01:39 |
| lifeless | basically, standard git rules - either use merge everywhere, or rebase everywhere. | 01:39 |
| clarkb | lifeless: no the problem appears to be that gerrit never had a change created for the parent commit | 01:39 |
| clarkb | the commit is in git itself, but Gerrit doesn't know about it from a review standpoint | 01:39 |
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| fungi | in other news of the weird, gerrit 2.5 added the ability to code-review acl changes ("save for review" button on acl editor ui) | 01:41 |
| fungi | automatically adds project owners to the change (which thankfully for us is just "administrators" so no new back door there) | 01:41 |
| clarkb | fungi: it will also prevent ssh event stream for most users by default | 01:42 |
| clarkb | we will need to update the ACLs for that | 01:42 |
| fungi | yep, i saw that mentioned | 01:42 |
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| fungi | more relevant to the current problem at hand, contributor agreements changed in 2.5 to be config-centric and use the db less... so that might point to our behavior change there. still digging into the details and seeing whether that evolved further by 2.8 | 01:43 |
| fungi | "Add a new schema to move the ContributorAgreement, AccountAgreement, and AccountGroupAgreement information into the All-Projects project.config." | 01:44 |
| fungi | (from the 2.5 release notes) | 01:44 |
| fungi | 2.6 added some contributor agreement documentation | 01:46 |
| fungi | seems nothing new mentioned in 2.7 or 2.8, so that narrows the scope of what we need to look at i think | 01:46 |
| fungi | https://review-dev.openstack.org/Documentation/config-cla.html | 01:48 |
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| fungi | looks like the upgrade routine did copy the relevant agreement configs from the database into refs/meta/config for all-projects | 01:55 |
| fungi | however the icla config section refers to a group named "CLA Accepted - ICLA" | 01:57 |
| fungi | and that group is not in the groups list that i can see | 01:57 |
| fungi | so that *might* be the issue | 01:57 |
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| fungi | while the docs don't say, i suspect the account_agreements table is no longer used, and group membership is the only mechanism used for that now | 01:58 |
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| fungi | which means we'll probably need to precreate and auto-add all icla signers to "CLA Accepted - ICLA" prior to (or while) upgrading | 01:59 |
| fungi | clarkb: zaro: ^ | 02:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: interesting | 02:00 |
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| clarkb | fungi: should I try accepting it through the normal process and see what happens? | 02:01 |
| fungi | it looks like the autoverify feature now adds your account to the specified group in the all-projects project.config now instead of adding an entry to the table in the db | 02:02 |
| fungi | clarkb: if you try accepting it, you get an error right now | 02:02 |
| fungi | i'm thinking that's probably because it wants to add you to the group since you aren't in it, but then discovers that group dne | 02:02 |
| fungi | current hunch--haven't actually tried to prove that out | 02:03 |
| clarkb | Cannot store contact information | 02:03 |
| clarkb | oh the group DNE | 02:03 |
| fungi | oh, that's separate. i didn't try adding contact info since it seemed to know i'd already filed contact info in march | 02:04 |
| fungi | the error i get is the vague one i mentioned earlier about "page doesn't exist or maybe you don't have permission to view this page" | 02:05 |
| fungi | which i think is it trying to access the nonexistent group to add me to it | 02:05 |
| fungi | anyway, need to split for a bit, but back in a while | 02:06 |
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| fungi | we'll of course also want to test contact info mechanics once we work out the cla issues (separate but interrelated features) | 02:10 |
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| clarkb | woah when did https://pypi.python.org/pypi/libvirt-python happen and why wasn't it bigger news around here? | 05:28 |
| clarkb | if no one has sorted that before I get back from LCA I am going to have to make nova consume that instead of system pacakges | 05:29 |
| clarkb | (this depends on updating libvirt on precise whcih require cloud archive which doesn't work, but there is real incentive now) | 05:29 |
| fungi | i saw it got discussed that the effort was underway--is it operable now? | 05:30 |
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| clarkb | fungi: its on pypi | 05:30 |
| fungi | well, yeah, *something's* on pypi at least ;) | 05:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: it requires newer C libvirt than what we have on precise because the linkage stuff wasn't correct until later | 05:31 |
| fungi | i have to assume something working | 05:31 |
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| fungi | sure, that much i'd have expected anyway | 05:31 |
| clarkb | so it won'y actually build against our current slaves, we need to get the gate working with newer libvirt | 05:31 |
| clarkb | 0.9.8 iirc | 05:31 |
| fungi | yeah, any news on the "libvirt breaks tempest tests" front? i haven't checked back in on that bug in a while | 05:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think it is still broken | 05:32 |
| clarkb | its kind of hilariously bad because in theory that means openstack doesn't work on newer ubuntu | 05:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add libvirt-python in prep for using pypi libvirt https://review.openstack.org/64595 | 05:33 |
| clarkb | pushed that to get it up, I don't expect it to actually pass check testing | 05:34 |
| fungi | i didn't really understand how there was such excitement to get that turned on, so we did, everything broke, someone worked on it for a while, said "it's fixed!" but i decided to try it anyway and... nope, still broken | 05:34 |
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| fungi | since i've not noticed new updates on the bug, i'm guessing people lost interest in figuring out why it was broken | 05:34 |
| clarkb | the excitement for me is we can stop using system packages in nova tox.ini virtualenvs | 05:35 |
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| fungi | oh, i understand the excitement in being able to use all sorts of new features which come with the various packages in uca. what i don't understand is why there's not been more effort to get it to work | 05:36 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think the incentive has been minimal, but with libvirt-python being a thing I have reason to spend time on it | 05:36 |
| clarkb | really we should point Mr. Berrange at it and beg, but I think the fact that ubuntu is broken hurts us | 05:37 |
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| fungi | i couldn't agree more | 05:37 |
| clarkb | worst case icehouse maintains status quo and juno hops on trusty with whatever libvirt is available there | 05:38 |
| clarkb | I completely missed the J name vote somehow, but my vote wouldn't have mattered anyways | 05:41 |
| fungi | i wanted jekyll, but juno will be easier to type i guess, so there's always that | 05:42 |
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| clarkb | ya but juno is that movie | 05:42 |
| clarkb | also a city in alaska | 05:42 |
| clarkb | >_> | 05:42 |
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| fungi | and a goddess in the roman pantheon | 05:45 |
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| clarkb | we need to strategically plant the 'R' release summit in seattle. For Rainier | 05:47 |
| fungi | or just plain rainy | 05:49 |
| clarkb | I would accept rainy as well | 05:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kei YAMAZAKI proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix multibyte character problem https://review.openstack.org/64610 | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add libvirt-dev in anticipation of python-libvirt https://review.openstack.org/64611 | 15:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: ^^ that's needed for https://review.openstack.org/64595 | 15:36 |
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| anteaya | the place in Alaska is Juneau | 16:03 |
| anteaya | Juno isn't my favourite goddess but she'll do | 16:03 |
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| mordred | I can't believe we didn't pick jekyll - that seemed like such an obvious choice | 16:29 |
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| annegentle_ | mordred: juno all the way baby | 16:30 |
| annegentle_ | any ideas for how to get enough entropy on a cloud server to generate my key? fungi ideas? | 16:30 |
| annegentle_ | it has been sitting there for about 10 minutes now | 16:33 |
| clarkb | anteaya thats the joke :P | 16:35 |
| clarkb | mordred cool thanks (it needs newer libvirt too iirc) | 16:36 |
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| fungi | annegentle_: oh, wow... i usually generate mine locally, but... i guess just keep waiting? | 17:29 |
| fungi | (presumably it's finished now? hopefully?) | 17:29 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: sorry I am so out of touch lately | 17:48 |
| anteaya | I feel like I am in the twilight zone | 17:49 |
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| anteaya | does each jenkins have its own nodepool? or is there one nodepool for all the jenkins? | 17:59 |
| anteaya | a jenkins has an upper limit of about 185 jobs running on individual nodes, yes? | 17:59 |
| anteaya | does nodepool have an upper limit? | 17:59 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: one nodepool for all. nodepool limits tend to come from the cloud providers when they rate limit it | 18:43 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: great thanks | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-dev/hacking: Properly show licensing text https://review.openstack.org/64618 | 19:27 |
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| anteaya | so this is the slide I have created that show gerrit, zuul, gearman, jenkins and nodepool: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxz9xw5hw9d03va/gerrit_zuul_jenkins_01.png | 20:00 |
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| anteaya | let me know where I err | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: looks correct, note that most nodepool hosts are connected to jenkins at all times | 20:15 |
| anteaya | nodepool hosts | 20:17 |
| clarkb | the VMs spun up and deleted by nodepool | 20:17 |
| anteaya | so would that be the blue shape creating the stars? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | no the stars | 20:18 |
| clarkb | the stars are slaves right? | 20:18 |
| anteaya | yes | 20:18 |
| clarkb | ya the slaves then | 20:18 |
| anteaya | nodes/vms/slaves | 20:18 |
| anteaya | I thought nodepool had a reserve of nodes at all times | 20:18 |
| anteaya | and that a jenkins would go fetch a node from the pool when it wanted one | 20:19 |
| clarkb | there is a reserve of nodes at all times but they are already given to the jenkins | 20:19 |
| anteaya | then nodepool would notice one was missing and spin up a replacement | 20:19 |
| anteaya | ah | 20:19 |
| anteaya | that was the part I was missing | 20:19 |
| anteaya | are the equally distributed to all the jenkins? | 20:19 |
| anteaya | the reserve nodes | 20:20 |
| clarkb | yes | 20:20 |
| anteaya | great thanks | 20:20 |
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| anteaya | will try to depict that relationship | 20:20 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: does refreshing give you an edited image? | 20:29 |
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| anteaya | if not: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxz9xw5hw9d03va/gerrit_zuul_jenkins_01.png | 20:33 |
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| clarkb | that look sgood | 20:45 |
| anteaya | thanks | 20:45 |
| anteaya | moving on | 20:46 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, hate to bug you, but ... is zuul unhappy? | 20:47 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: a quick glance doesn't indicate so. What are you seeing? | 20:48 |
| clarkb | oh a refresh returns nothing | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | no jobs running (just did a recheck) | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | and it errored trying to merge a patchset that was based on current master? | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63564/ | 20:49 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: have a link to that? | 20:49 |
| anteaya | I also see no jobs running: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 20:49 |
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| clarkb | it may have run out of file descriptors again :( | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | ah boo | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | :( | 20:49 |
| clarkb | I really thought my change would fix that but no apparently not | 20:49 |
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| clarkb | morganfainberg: give me a couple minutes I will kick it | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | sure thing | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | glad i caught it now rather than.. say in the rush tomorrow morning right? | 20:50 |
| morganfainberg | ;) | 20:50 |
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| morganfainberg | because... there will be a rush :P | 20:50 |
| anteaya | hung over code | 20:50 |
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| morganfainberg | anteaya, lol. NaH, just watched the Rose Parade from my office window(s). figured i'd get some work in while i was in the office | 20:51 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 20:51 |
| clarkb | why are you in the office? | 20:51 |
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| anteaya | why not? | 20:51 |
| clarkb | also putting the games on ESPN is seriously irritating | 20:51 |
| anteaya | why? | 20:51 |
| anteaya | advertising? | 20:51 |
| clarkb | anteaya: ESPN requires cable or satellite | 20:51 |
| anteaya | oh | 20:51 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, so i could look out of the window and see the rose parade live :) it's kinda nice watching it live w/o needing to camp out | 20:51 |
| clarkb | I want to pay for neither. Prior to the espn deal all BCS games were broadcast | 20:51 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: oh gotcha | 20:52 |
| clarkb | derp | 20:52 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, advantages to living in Pasadena and working from an office with a view of colorado blvd. | 20:52 |
| anteaya | since we have been on satelitte for tv for the last 10+ years, that isn't an obstacle for me | 20:52 |
| anteaya | If I wanted to watch ESPN | 20:52 |
| anteaya | morganfainberg: how was the parade? | 20:53 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, was pretty cool | 20:53 |
| anteaya | nice | 20:53 |
| morganfainberg | Stanford's marching band was _awesome_. also one of the other bands did gangnam style as their song, was entertaining | 20:53 |
| morganfainberg | the details on the floats are really cool when you're seeing them from like ~25ft away compared to on tv. | 20:54 |
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| clarkb | zuul has been kicked | 20:56 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, thank you much | 20:56 |
| anteaya | I just checked, I get TSN and ESPN if I want to pay more - I don't | 20:56 |
| anteaya | if I wanted to watch sports I would be watching the winter classic | 20:57 |
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| morganfainberg | anteaya, clarkb, is it just my browser or ... is the CSS/display kinda wonky on http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ now, i only see [openstack/keystone <patch> <time>] but no stats on the jobs running? | 20:57 |
| anteaya | sold out crowd, I understand | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | i accept it might be my browser | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | or is that intended. | 20:58 |
| anteaya | morganfainberg: this is a new patch that just went in | 20:58 |
| anteaya | click the job, it expands | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | .. *sighs* sometimes i feel less than bright | 20:59 |
| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63019/ | 20:59 |
| anteaya | no no | 20:59 |
| anteaya | I just read it today | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | ah | 20:59 |
| anteaya | I would have responded the same as you | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | maybe we should get a little + thing on there. | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | or other iconography that indicates it expands | 20:59 |
| anteaya | yeah, it isn't obvious it is clickable | 21:00 |
| anteaya | my cursor moves from an arrow to a vertical line when I hover over the job | 21:00 |
| anteaya | I like it | 21:00 |
| morganfainberg | mine stays an arrow | 21:00 |
| anteaya | does it | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | yep. chrome | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | on os x | 21:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Give Zuul file descriptor breathing room. https://review.openstack.org/64621 | 21:01 |
| clarkb | I don't expect jeblair to like 64621 but should give us more room to grow before it falls over | 21:01 |
| anteaya | firefox and ubuntu | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, sometimes you need to fix an issue until the long-term solution can be found | 21:02 |
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| anteaya | I like the zuul collapse/expand, it will make viewing the page for a specific patch easier | 21:03 |
| anteaya | the learning curve with be... well a curve | 21:03 |
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| anteaya | here is a slide for how to evaluate what tests we are running by looking at the jenkins jobs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mrt5sury7i51md7/jenkins_jobs.png | 22:03 |
| anteaya | as in how to find the jobs | 22:03 |
| anteaya | am I missing anything important? | 22:07 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: this job has failed: https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg-isolated/351/console | 22:26 |
| anteaya | does it have anything to do with file descriptors? | 22:27 |
| anteaya | the message mentions a file discriptor issue | 22:27 |
| anteaya | descriptor | 22:27 |
| clarkb | no the file descriptor leak message in the jenkins console logs is harmless | 22:27 |
| clarkb | it is just a warning that the job created files outside the workspace | 22:28 |
| clarkb | that is a legit failure | 22:28 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 22:28 |
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