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| clarkb | nibalizer: mordred http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/puppet.conf.erb#n20 so that line needs to say store,puppetdb? | 02:13 |
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| AaronGr | clarkb: correct, assuming you want both on disk and in puppetdb. | 03:32 |
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| blkperl | hi, i'm working with nibalizer on puppetdb, can someone cat /etc/puppet/puppet.conf into a gist and post it here | 05:34 |
| blkperl | mordred: ^ clarkb: ^ fungi: ^ | 05:35 |
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| clarkb | blkperl can you see my link in sb? | 05:47 |
| clarkb | that is the file | 05:47 |
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| blkperl | clarkb: yeah i don't have sb :) | 06:12 |
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| anteaya | blkperl: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/puppet.conf.erb#n20 | 13:03 |
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| mordred | blkperl, AaronGr, clarkb: actually, the puppet.conf on the master is this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/74092/ | 13:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Store puppetmaster reports in puppetdb https://review.openstack.org/82349 | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add parameters for mavencentral auth https://review.openstack.org/82354 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Rename accessbot config file to match manifest https://review.openstack.org/82355 | 15:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove files from puppet urls https://review.openstack.org/82359 | 15:15 |
| mordred | fungi: morning | 15:15 |
| mordred | fungi: you may have noticed that I'm working through errors that we can now see via puppetdb.openstack.org ... | 15:16 |
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| fungi | mordred: yep, saw. very awesome | 15:20 |
| * fungi is mostly afk, what with cramming wedding and an unexpected move into the next few months--weekends and evenings are no longer my own for a while | 15:21 | |
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| mordred | fungi: nod. well, enjoy that :) | 15:26 |
| fungi | yup. so much fun i can hardly contain myself | 15:27 |
| mordred | wow | 15:27 |
| mordred | best error I've ever seen | 15:27 |
| mordred | err: /Stage[main]/Openstack_project::Cacti/File[/etc/apache2/conf-available/cacti.conf]/ensure: change from absent to file failed: Could not set 'file on ensure: cannot generate tempfile `/etc/apache2/conf-available/cacti.conf20140323-28690-1f63lt8-9' at /opt/config/production/modules/openstack_project/manifests/cacti.pp:29 | 15:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Remove files from puppet urls https://review.openstack.org/82359 | 15:28 |
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| jeblair | mordred, nibalizer: puppetboard! | 15:34 |
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| jeblair | mordred: that error makes sense -- there is no "/etc/apache2/conf-available" directory (nor should there be, i think. i believe the 'available' thing is only for sites and mods) | 15:36 |
| jeblair | mattoliverau: http://puppetdb.openstack.org/report/latest/cacti.openstack.org | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove extra g722 sounds https://review.openstack.org/82360 | 15:41 |
| mordred | jeblair: devstack-launch, centos6-dev1 and precise-dev1 are all unsued now, yeah? | 15:42 |
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| mordred | jeblair: also, I'm super stoked that we have puppetboard now | 15:43 |
| mordred | nibalizer: ^^ | 15:43 |
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| clarkb | mordred why did the puppet.conf erb not match reality? also yay puppetboard | 15:44 |
| mordred | clarkb: I honestly have no idea. best I can tell someone manually edited puppetmaster's puppet.conf? that seems like a weird choice for any of us to make though | 15:45 |
| mordred | clarkb: also, puppet agent was not running on puppetmaster | 15:45 |
| clarkb | that'll do it | 15:46 |
| mordred | clarkb: http://puppetdb.openstack.org/report/storyboard.openstack.org/ecc673898d13812a8c087071e7c886c643c8adbd | 15:47 |
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| mordred | the virtualenv package has a flapping failure - it doesn't fail on ever run | 15:47 |
| mordred | but also, I've verified that both pip and virtualenv are installed there | 15:47 |
| mordred | so wtf | 15:47 |
| dstufft | software is bad | 15:47 |
| dstufft | that's the reason | 15:47 |
| mordred | dstufft: ++ | 15:47 |
| mordred | dstufft: you have an alert on pip don't you? | 15:48 |
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| dstufft | ha | 15:48 |
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| dstufft | no I don't actually :) | 15:48 |
| mordred | hehe | 15:48 |
| dstufft | I just sense it | 15:48 |
| mordred | nicely done | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Remove pip version specifier https://review.openstack.org/82356 | 15:48 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think now that we have puppetboard - the first large-scale patch we should land is the pip one | 15:48 |
| clarkb | ya | 15:49 |
| jeblair | mordred: istr that occasionally pip gets confused about what versions of things are installed and reports wrong ones | 15:50 |
| mordred | yah | 15:50 |
| mordred | http://puppetdb.openstack.org/node/summit.openstack.org | 15:50 |
| mordred | if you llook at all of those reports | 15:50 |
| mordred | theyr'e all upgrading virtualenv from 1.10 to 1.10.1 | 15:51 |
| pleia2 | puppetboard \o/ | 15:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Do not sync requirements to pbr https://review.openstack.org/82361 | 15:51 |
| mordred | clarkb: ooh! the puppetboard virtualenv module has given us an accurate virtualenv_version fact | 15:55 |
| blkperl | mordred: awesome, you got reporting on puppetboard working :D | 15:57 |
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| blkperl | mordred: so nibalizer and I need the puppetmaster logs to find puppet3 deprecation warnings, but were not sure if its actually free of sensitive data, so someone would have to look it over first | 16:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use virtualenv_version fact to unconfuse puppet https://review.openstack.org/82362 | 16:03 |
| mordred | blkperl: ok - where are they/which logs? | 16:03 |
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| blkperl | mordred: grep puppet-master /var/log/syslog | 16:04 |
| clarkb | blkperl: deprecation warnings happen master side so dont end up in agent reports? | 16:05 |
| blkperl | clarkb: right | 16:05 |
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| blkperl | also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80469/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80470/ should be safe to merge | 16:06 |
| mordred | blkperl: scanning the results of that it looks clean | 16:07 |
| blkperl | mordred: oh, i know why | 16:07 |
| jeblair | i'm preparing to restart zuul | 16:08 |
| nibalizer | hi | 16:08 |
| blkperl | mordred: http://puppetdb.openstack.org/fact/puppetversion I think they all need to be 2.7.2* to have deprecation warnings | 16:08 |
| blkperl | a lot of those versions probably don't have the deprecation warnings | 16:08 |
| mordred | blkperl: no - I mean I looks clean from having secrets in it | 16:10 |
| blkperl | mordred: oh :) | 16:10 |
| nibalizer | could we do the classic share /var/log/puppet over http thing? | 16:10 |
| mordred | blkperl: we should probably set a thing to keep us current on puppet version | 16:11 |
| nibalizer | access to the logs is exactly what we need | 16:11 |
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| blkperl | nibalizer: I think we will still need a noop run against a puppet3 master, im not sure if puppet 2.7 throws out all the deprecation warnings we need | 16:12 |
| nibalizer | yea | 16:12 |
| nibalizer | i agree | 16:12 |
| mordred | nibalizer: for now - http://paste.openstack.org/show/74097/ | 16:12 |
| mordred | enjoy | 16:12 |
| nibalizer | <3 | 16:13 |
| blkperl | awesome <3 | 16:13 |
| nibalizer | mordred: jeblair fungi so we'd like to fire up a puppet 3 master and have the rooters do dry runs against it on the nodes | 16:13 |
| nibalizer | we'll get the commits in place, can someone requisition a virtual machine and maybe puppet.o.o for us? | 16:13 |
| clarkb | jeblair: picking up the noop change? | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | blkperl: i think we should paramaterize install_puppet.sh | 16:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yes | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | well we'll have to paramaterize everything else too | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | (modules/openstack_project/manifests/puppetmaster) | 16:14 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: yeah, no problem; we'll probably spin up the machine after the commits have landed | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | oh wait are we in a soft freeze ? | 16:14 |
| nibalizer | waiting on the massive pip change? | 16:14 |
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| jeblair | mordred: ^ are we ready to freeze for that? | 16:15 |
| blkperl | of course its all apache errors :) | 16:15 |
| mordred | jeblair: perhaps we should put the hieradata into a private git location that both puppetmasters could pull from -so that we could migrate a node at a time to the puppet3 without too much crazymaking? | 16:16 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I think we shoudl rebase the change | 16:16 |
| mordred | first | 16:16 |
| mordred | jeblair: I can do that real quick | 16:16 |
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| nibalizer | is the private hiera data not under git right now? | 16:17 |
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| mordred | it's under git - but it's just a local repo | 16:17 |
| nibalizer | oh i see | 16:17 |
| nibalizer | +1 to putting it in a private git location | 16:17 |
| jeblair | mordred: yeah, i think we could just have one master pull from the other | 16:17 |
| nibalizer | although i wonder, do we really have a private git server set up? | 16:18 |
| mordred | jeblair: good idea | 16:18 |
| mordred | nibalizer: nope - but what jeblair just said ^^ | 16:18 |
| nibalizer | yea that works | 16:19 |
| jeblair | zuul is restarted | 16:20 |
| jeblair | Zuul version: 2.0.0.114 | 16:20 |
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| jeblair | probably about time for a release :) | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix deprecation warnings in gerrit module https://review.openstack.org/82364 | 16:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i restarted the mergers too, so init scripts and re-registration should be fixed there | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | William Van Hevelingen proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Resource references should be capitalized https://review.openstack.org/82365 | 16:22 |
| blkperl | nibalizer: maybe we should coordinate :) | 16:22 |
| nibalizer | blkperl: did we just do the same thing | 16:22 |
| blkperl | yes | 16:22 |
| nibalizer | hahhahahaha | 16:23 |
| nibalizer | o/ | 16:23 |
| jeblair | nibalizer, blkperl: fixing it twice makes it twice as fixed | 16:23 |
| * blkperl kills mine | 16:23 | |
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| nibalizer | okay well im actually going back to bed, but everything is awesome! | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make pip install from upstream better https://review.openstack.org/51425 | 16:25 |
| mordred | jeblair: ^^ | 16:25 |
| mordred | jeblair: amazingly, I did not have to resolve any rebase conflicts | 16:25 |
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| anteaya | I just have to say that you two have the best names nibalizer and blkperl | 16:28 |
| anteaya | I keep waiting to see one of you add "III" to yours | 16:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair awesome | 16:28 |
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| mordred | clarkb: you wanna look the pip patch over too? | 16:30 |
| clarkb | mordred maybe later, doing weekend morning things now. including watching kansas lose to stanford | 16:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: the tourney is a bit cray cray this year | 16:32 |
| blkperl | anteaya: thanks :) | 16:33 |
| anteaya | :D | 16:34 |
| anteaya | so we are in soft freeze on puppet changes until 51425 merges, yes? | 16:34 |
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| mordred | anteaya: I'm down with that if jeblair, clarkb, fungi and SergeyLukjanov are | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use virtualenv_version fact to unconfuse puppet https://review.openstack.org/82362 | 16:37 |
| anteaya | mordred: k great | 16:38 |
| anteaya | mordred: did a quick pass of 51425 for glaring format things, found some | 16:39 |
| mordred | anteaya: oh yeah? cool | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make pip install from upstream better https://review.openstack.org/51425 | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use virtualenv_version fact to unconfuse puppet https://review.openstack.org/82362 | 16:43 |
| mordred | anteaya: fixed ^^ | 16:43 |
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| anteaya | mordred: thanks | 16:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix centos image name in region-b https://review.openstack.org/82369 | 17:02 |
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| mordred | jeblair: any thoughts on killing {devstack-launch,precise-dev1,centos6-dev1}.slave.openstack.org ? | 17:04 |
| jeblair | mordred: i think launch can go; i don't think nodepool is working on jenkins-dev yet, so that makes those slaves possibly the only ones attached to dev; we may want to hold onto those | 17:05 |
| mordred | jeblair: ahhhh... I wasn't grokking that they were attached to dev in my headbrain | 17:05 |
| mordred | jeblair: should I fix puppet on them then? | 17:05 |
| jeblair | mordred: maybe? not if it's too much trouble, since i imagine we actually want them gone once nodepool works there | 17:06 |
| jeblair | mordred: but if it's easy, sure why not? | 17:06 |
| mordred | jeblair: k. I'll see what i can do | 17:07 |
| mordred | I mainly wanted to get puppetboard fairly green so taht we can start responding to not-green as an issue | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | William Van Hevelingen proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix @var deprecation warnings in drupal templates https://review.openstack.org/82373 | 17:15 |
| zaro | mordred: so i got a little more info on cross project commits. | 17:17 |
| zaro | mordred: looks like their initial idea is to add functionality to git to make it similar to the 'repo' scm | 17:18 |
| zaro | mordred: to support that feature. | 17:18 |
| zaro | mordred: i don't know repo so i'm not sure what that would entail. | 17:19 |
| mordred | zaro: hrm. so, repo is a tool they use that we looked at but decided to not use | 17:19 |
| mordred | zaro: they use it instead of git-review to submit things to gerrit, for instance | 17:19 |
| mordred | but it's designed so that you can essentially grab all of the related repos for a project at once | 17:19 |
| zaro | mordred: android uses it and their plan is to have android project that use repo for cross project commits to switch to using git. | 17:20 |
| mordred | and make a feature branch across them | 17:20 |
| mordred | nod | 17:20 |
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| mordred | it'll be interesting to track work on that and possibly provide feedback or collaboration | 17:20 |
| mordred | mainly because we need to be able to do what we do with zuul - which is probably not a use case that gets considered much :) | 17:21 |
| zaro | zuul is definately not on their radar. | 17:21 |
| mordred | yeah - coordinated cross-project gating is a thing not many people do | 17:22 |
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| zaro | from my understanding repo defines all project depencies with some manifest and they plan to use the same idea and somehow that invovles git submodules. | 17:23 |
| mordred | yeek | 17:23 |
| clarkb | repo is a for loop around git review for strict dependencies | 17:23 |
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| zaro | if repo is analogus to git-review i'm not sure how that involves sumbmodules | 17:23 |
| clarkb | for example to build android you need a bunch of stuff, repo will make sure you have all of it | 17:24 |
| mordred | yah - and allow you to easily create and submit changes across multiple modules | 17:24 |
| mordred | but it doesn't really come with any enforcement of those things on the gerrit server side | 17:24 |
| mordred | which is fine if you're manually landing patches and if it's ok to produce a possible intermediate broken state | 17:25 |
| mordred | err: Failed to apply catalog: Invalid parameter psql_path at /etc/puppet/modules/postgresql/manifests/server/role.pp:61 | 17:26 |
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| mordred | I'd like to disagree with it | 17:26 |
| mordred | I believe that yes, in fact, it is a valid parameter | 17:26 |
| boris-42 | mordred jeblair sorry for interruption guys, but is there any command to stop gate job ? | 17:30 |
| mordred | boris-42: no- but you can leave a -2 vote to block it from landing | 17:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: http://puppetdb.openstack.org/report/review.openstack.org/f64c8c5e7ba634f0b3f1296c25f2c0c633978b71 why are those jars being removed? | 17:30 |
| clarkb | boris-42: you can also push a new patchset to kill it if you don't have -2 power | 17:31 |
| boris-42 | mordred so actually the case is another.. sometimes job sticks in one of the gates (cause of race condition) | 17:31 |
| boris-42 | mordred and you would like to kill it and recheck =) | 17:31 |
| boris-42 | mordred something like "git recheck --force" | 17:32 |
| clarkb | boris-42: push a new patchset | 17:32 |
| clarkb | is the only way to immediately stop gating something | 17:32 |
| mordred | clarkb: I do not know - that's a good question | 17:32 |
| boris-42 | clarkb I think that it will be nice to extend "git recheck" functionality.. | 17:33 |
| clarkb | boris-42: why? | 17:33 |
| clarkb | boris-42: sorry I don't think a new subcommand is really necessary to expose implementation specific queuing behavior | 17:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: all of the reports say that so I don't think it is actually removing them | 17:34 |
| boris-42 | clarkb hm there are some cases where it is useful, e.g. patch is not your =) | 17:35 |
| boris-42 | clarkb and author of patch is not online.. | 17:35 |
| clarkb | boris-42: right, just push a new patchset | 17:35 |
| clarkb | git push (or git review) is your command | 17:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: I can confirm that the jar files are still there | 17:36 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I have NO IDEA why the psql_path error above is happening on centos6-dev.slave.openstack.org | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | clarkb yep I know that works, but cleaner solution is "recheck" command | 17:36 |
| zaro | had an interesing question come up at the conference. | 17:36 |
| clarkb | boris-42: I disagree :) | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | clarkb =) | 17:36 |
| clarkb | boris-42: the nice thing about the push is everyone can see the history of it | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | clarkb okay I am just newbie=) | 17:36 |
| clarkb | there is no side channel that will need a second set of reporting so that when people go wtf they can figure out what happened | 17:36 |
| clarkb | kicking something out of the gate is intentionally a bit hard and currently has a paper trail | 17:37 |
| zaro | can you have zuul merge dependent commits before executing tests? | 17:37 |
| boris-42 | clarkb ok =) i was speaking just from user side | 17:37 |
| zaro | i mean 'all dependent' | 17:37 |
| clarkb | boris-42: right | 17:37 |
| mordred | zaro: well... | 17:37 |
| boris-42 | clarkb e.g. now we are sometimes waiting 1hrs and then doing recheck =) | 17:37 |
| clarkb | boris-42: I don't want any user to be able to snipe my change without a paper trail :) | 17:37 |
| mordred | zaro: yes and no | 17:37 |
| boris-42 | clarkb reasonable=) | 17:37 |
| clarkb | boris-42: today any user can but they must leave a paper trail | 17:37 |
| mordred | zaro: it will definitely merge all of the dependent changesets before running tests on the final changesets | 17:38 |
| mordred | zaro: but currently we require that each of the changesets in the sequence pass tests itself- so we will ALSO test the combinations of the changesets leading up to the final state | 17:38 |
| mordred | zaro: we consider doing that a feature, because of folks doing continuous deployment | 17:39 |
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| clarkb | boris-42: I think there is a balance between abuse of the system (whcih we have seen, it isn't an imaginary problem) and ease of use | 17:40 |
| zaro | mordred: ahh, ok i didn't think it was possible atm. | 17:40 |
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| clarkb | boris-42: so somethings are harder than they could be but are often intentionally that way to discourage abuse | 17:40 |
| boris-42 | clarkb sure agree | 17:40 |
| boris-42 | clarkb one question do you have wiki page?) | 17:40 |
| zaro | mordred: the other use case someone came up with is that they didn't have as much testing resources and wanted to bunch up the changes before testing. | 17:41 |
| anteaya | boris-42: wikipage for what? | 17:41 |
| boris-42 | clarkb e.g. in Rally we have some kind of introduction on wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rally | 17:41 |
| boris-42 | anteaya ^ | 17:41 |
| anteaya | for how to snipe a patch? | 17:41 |
| boris-42 | anteaya for everything | 17:41 |
| clarkb | boris-42: we do https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/InfraTeam also http://ci.openstack.org | 17:41 |
| mordred | zaro: yah. we explicitly dont' want to do that ourselves | 17:41 |
| mordred | zaro: although I totally grok the desire some folks might have | 17:41 |
| boris-42 | clarkb i would like to contribute a bit in Wiki as well | 17:41 |
| mordred | zaro: for us - zuul is designed to test _more_ things, not less - with the assumption that we have scalable clouds to deal with resources | 17:42 |
| mordred | zaro: I do not think zuul would be the right choice for anyone who is resource constrained | 17:42 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so reviews + wiki to make it easily to involve new developers and reviewers | 17:42 |
| boris-42 | in infra team | 17:42 |
| zaro | mordred: it's in situations where they have variable resources. sometimes a lot and sometimes a little. | 17:43 |
| anteaya | boris-42: here are the docs for ci.openstack.org: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/doc/source | 17:43 |
| anteaya | offer what ever patches you see fit | 17:43 |
| boris-42 | anteaya ivestigeting docs | 17:44 |
| anteaya | k | 17:45 |
| boris-42 | anteaya thanks | 17:45 |
| anteaya | np | 17:45 |
| anteaya | I look forward to your patches | 17:46 |
| boris-42 | anteaya so my idea is next | 17:46 |
| boris-42 | anteaya we have for example this page http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html | 17:47 |
| anteaya | boris-42: you read the -infra meeting logs, correct? | 17:47 |
| anteaya | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/ | 17:47 |
| boris-42 | anteaya not but will start=) | 17:47 |
| anteaya | great | 17:47 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I just started yestarday=) | 17:47 |
| anteaya | it is a good way to see what we are thinking | 17:47 |
| anteaya | and what is most important at the moment | 17:47 |
| anteaya | okay welcome | 17:47 |
| boris-42 | anteaya yep I will take part in meetings | 17:47 |
| boris-42 | anteaya so about this page http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html | 17:48 |
| boris-42 | anteaya there is not enough information about this project | 17:48 |
| anteaya | boris-42: this is a good etherpad to spend some time with: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infrastructure-priorities | 17:49 |
| boris-42 | anteaya so new developer is not able to understand for 5 minutes how it works | 17:49 |
| anteaya | zuul can't be understood in 5 minutes | 17:49 |
| boris-42 | anteaya everything can be=) | 17:49 |
| anteaya | what information do you want to page to include? | 17:49 |
| boris-42 | anteaya a lot of diagrams | 17:49 |
| anteaya | boris-42: I want to eat what you do for breakfast | 17:49 |
| anteaya | diagram away | 17:49 |
| anteaya | I have yet to see a good diagram be refused | 17:50 |
| boris-42 | anteaya like in Rally we have refused | 17:50 |
| boris-42 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/File:Rally-Actions.png | 17:50 |
| anteaya | I believe your wiki page has diagrams | 17:50 |
| anteaya | you don't need to sell me on rally | 17:50 |
| anteaya | so if you want diagrams on the zuul page | 17:51 |
| anteaya | make them and offer them as a patch | 17:51 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I would like to make them=) | 17:51 |
| anteaya | great | 17:51 |
| anteaya | I look forward to seeing your diagrams | 17:51 |
| boris-42 | anteaya so I am just speaking about what I would like to concentrate=) | 17:51 |
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| anteaya | have you looked at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infrastructure-priorities yet? | 17:51 |
| boris-42 | anteaya looking | 17:51 |
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| anteaya | those are the infrastructure priorites that jeblair has identified | 17:52 |
| clarkb | boris-42 doc updates (particularly for clarity) are always welcome. it is not always easy to see where the deficiencies are if you already understand it | 17:52 |
| anteaya | status alert system and translation tools need someone to work on them | 17:53 |
| boris-42 | clarkb yep so you get new member "me" | 17:53 |
| boris-42 | clarkb and I don't understand how it works | 17:53 |
| jeblair | boris-42: http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html isn't designed to teach you everything about zuul -- it's designed to teach you about how zuul is configured and operated by openstack infra | 17:53 |
| boris-42 | clarkb and will have that "first" impression | 17:53 |
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| jeblair | boris-42: but more importantly, it's designed to point you to where you can find more information | 17:54 |
| anteaya | boris-42: the best place to start to understand infra is to read the meeting logs and the channel logs | 17:54 |
| jeblair | boris-42: like zuul's reference manual: http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/ | 17:54 |
| boris-42 | anteaya imho code is better=) | 17:54 |
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| anteaya | boris-42: then you won't understand infra | 17:54 |
| jeblair | boris-42: which _is_ designed to explain how zuul works | 17:54 |
| anteaya | since infra is people who write code | 17:54 |
| anteaya | the code is the tools that do the work | 17:54 |
| anteaya | the people are the ones that decide how to make the tools do what they do | 17:55 |
| anteaya | and why | 17:55 |
| dstufft | jeblair: can I say it's really confusing to have http://ci.openstack.org/zuul.html and http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/ be two entirely different things | 17:55 |
| anteaya | if you just want to understand a given tool, like zuul then the code is a great place to work from | 17:55 |
| boris-42 | dstufft +1 =) | 17:55 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I would like to make developer2developer instruction | 17:56 |
| boris-42 | anteaya about how everything is organized and how infra team works | 17:56 |
| anteaya | boris-42: okay that is different than contributing to infra | 17:56 |
| boris-42 | anteaya disagree | 17:56 |
| boris-42 | =) | 17:56 |
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| anteaya | why do you need infra knowledge for developer2developer instruction? | 17:56 |
| boris-42 | anteaya probably this will be cleaner: developer_of_infra 2 future_developer_of_infra | 17:57 |
| anteaya | most developers need to know how to interpret status.openstack.org/zuul | 17:57 |
| anteaya | not how zuul works | 17:57 |
| anteaya | great | 17:57 |
| jeblair | boris-42: http://ci.openstack.org/project.html | 17:58 |
| boris-42 | anteaya future developers of Infra should get High level understanding about how everything in Infra works | 17:58 |
| anteaya | channel logs and meeting logs are a great place to start | 17:58 |
| anteaya | everyting in infra is a moving target | 17:58 |
| anteaya | which changes daily | 17:58 |
| boris-42 | anteaya yep, but global scope and projects are not | 17:58 |
| anteaya | developing in infra is more about daily communication habits than code | 17:58 |
| anteaya | great | 17:58 |
| boris-42 | anteaya but agree that such page should be updated every day/week | 17:58 |
| anteaya | it is | 17:59 |
| anteaya | they are called channel logs | 17:59 |
| anteaya | and infra devs consume them daily | 17:59 |
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| boris-42 | jeblair so the issue of that page, I read it, and I don't know even what project I should look for.. | 17:59 |
| anteaya | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/ | 17:59 |
| boris-42 | anteaya btw about that logs, sorry for putting Rally as a sample, but this page is much better https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rally/Updates for tracking project updates | 18:00 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya so probably that will be nice to have a person that will write such updates weekly, so you don't need to read a lot to get understanding about what is happening in infra =) | 18:01 |
| anteaya | boris-42: if you are volunteering to be that person, that is great | 18:02 |
| anteaya | I'm sure the information you provide will be consumed | 18:02 |
| boris-42 | anteaya I will, but I need some time to understanding infra=) | 18:02 |
| boris-42 | understand* | 18:02 |
| anteaya | boris-42: yes I understand | 18:02 |
| boris-42 | jeblair so probably I should just try to start writing some wiki pages, about how I understand Infra as a newbie | 18:03 |
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| boris-42 | jeblair then this should be reviewed by cores to ensure that I didn't mix everything=) | 18:04 |
| boris-42 | anteaya ^ thoughts ? | 18:04 |
| anteaya | boris-42: you might consider starting out with some blog posts | 18:04 |
| anteaya | then move them to wiki pages once you have a sense of things | 18:04 |
| anteaya | that is what I did | 18:04 |
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| boris-42 | anteaya I may write it at the end, but it simpler to me to work with wiki… | 18:06 |
| mordred | I will say that I agree with boris-42 that there is a deficiency here, so I welcome efforts in this direction | 18:06 |
| mordred | we've got some excellent detailed docs | 18:06 |
| mordred | but what's missing is a top level big-picture thing for folks with no pre-existing context | 18:07 |
| boris-42 | mordred yep to "join in" | 18:07 |
| boris-42 | mordred and I will try to make such one | 18:07 |
| mordred | boris-42: wootr | 18:08 |
| boris-42 | mordred So I don't wan't to write docs in wiki page=) just diagrams and text to get involved and understand where you should look and what you should look =) | 18:08 |
| mordred | boris-42: yah | 18:08 |
| jeblair | please don't put important docs in the wiki. they won't be reviewed or updated by cores | 18:08 |
| jeblair | and i'd really rather we not end up with a bunch of docs about how to contribute to infra in the wiki that quickly go out of date | 18:08 |
| jeblair | so if you find some introductory material is missing from http://ci.openstack.org/index.html please add it | 18:09 |
| mordred | yeah - I think almost all of this, if not all, can go there ^^ | 18:09 |
| jeblair | but also know that documentation is _intentionally_ not detailed | 18:09 |
| boris-42 | jeblair actually I don't think that at the "high level" scope there is a lot of changes | 18:09 |
| jeblair | because it points to other sources of more detailed documentation | 18:09 |
| jeblair | (which, in turn, if they are missing details, should be updated) | 18:09 |
| boris-42 | jeblair okay I will work on this page http://ci.openstack.org/index.html | 18:09 |
| mordred | jeblair: I don't thin kit's detailed info that's missing, I think it's top level narrative - what is this system in the first place | 18:10 |
| boris-42 | mordred yep goal is to hide all details) | 18:11 |
| mordred | (essentially, a doc version of our intro presentations that we do) | 18:11 |
| boris-42 | mordred btw what intro presentation?) | 18:13 |
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| mordred | boris-42: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/publications/ | 18:17 |
| mordred | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/publications/overview/ is a good one | 18:17 |
| boris-42 | mordred thanks! =) | 18:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: ooh - I hadn't seen the logstash diagram: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/publications/overview/#%2834%29 | 18:18 |
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| boris-42 | mordred nice presentation =) | 18:22 |
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| clarkb | mordred that was part of my lca talk and jeblair put it in the overview too | 18:43 |
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| mordred | clarkb: "man puppet-kick" | 18:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: we've been making this too hard | 18:58 |
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| jeblair | mordred: not keen on allowing incoming connections to agents on hosts | 19:23 |
| jeblair | mordred: (but perhaps would be okay with a good iptables config that allows only from puppetmaster) | 19:26 |
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| * fungi barely skimmed... okay with puppetry soft freeze for ramming big refactors through | 19:35 | |
| fungi | and agree with jeblair that puppet-kick would need some tighter access controls, iptables works | 19:35 |
| fungi | also, boris-42, welcome and thanks! | 19:36 |
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| * fungi gets back to crating up the various albatrosses he wears around his neck | 19:37 | |
| boris-42 | fungi hi there=) | 19:39 |
| clarkb | graphite looks broken again | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Drive puppet from the master https://review.openstack.org/80976 | 19:39 |
| clarkb | ViewDoesNotExist: Could not import graphite.render.views. Error was: No module named timezone | 19:39 |
| clarkb | gonna guess another django incompatibility | 19:39 |
| mordred | clarkb: awesome | 19:39 |
| * clarkb would debug but going back to weekend now | 19:40 | |
| clarkb | spring is sort of here time to walkt o the lake and find beer | 19:40 |
| mordred | fungi, jeblair: that patch is a sketch of iptables and puppet auth controls | 19:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm cheering for the shockers right now | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | mordred: is that wichita state? | 19:41 |
| clarkb | mordred: our broadcast has been interrupted with news conferences about the landslide all day | 19:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: GROSS | 19:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: has the landslide changed? like, is there anything you need to know about it really? | 19:42 |
| mordred | clarkb: (and yes, wichita state) | 19:42 |
| mordred | clarkb: they're leading kentucky right now | 19:42 |
| clarkb | mordred: the governor is trying to get the feds to declare a state of emergency | 19:42 |
| clarkb | 18 people missing | 19:42 |
| mordred | clarkb: I suppose that's important | 19:43 |
| jeblair | mordred, nibalizer: why does puppetboard only show the last 10 reports for a host? | 19:49 |
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| jeblair | mordred: did you start puppet on graphite? | 19:52 |
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| jeblair | mordred: you need to check out graphite-web version 7f8c33da809e2938df55c1ff57ab5329d8d7b878 | 19:54 |
| jeblair | mordred: graphite 0.9.x branch is broken with this issue https://github.com/graphite-project/graphite-web/issues/650 | 19:54 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes. k. let me go do that - should we fix in puppet? or disable puppet on the host explicitly? | 19:55 |
| jeblair | mordred: probably just pin graphite-web to that sha in puppet for now | 19:56 |
| mordred | k. will do right now | 19:56 |
| jeblair | gotta run | 19:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pin graphite-web https://review.openstack.org/82380 | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Pin graphite-web https://review.openstack.org/82380 | 20:04 |
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| boris-42 | mordred ^ oh how fast=) | 20:04 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: its hardcoded | 20:06 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ^^ fixed | 20:16 |
| lifeless | mordred: back in the land of compatible tz's? | 20:17 |
| mordred | lifeless: yup! and also of better internets | 20:17 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I was just looking at http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppetdb/latest/maintain_and_tune.html#monitor-the-performance-dashboard | 20:20 |
| mordred | nibalizer: is that something we should expose in some manner? | 20:20 |
| nibalizer | maybe | 20:21 |
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| nibalizer | my concern is that 8080 is the unathenticated trust-everybody endpoint, i wonder if the metrics are exposed on the secure endpoint | 20:21 |
| nibalizer | also as we were talking in the meeting a couple weeks ago, we don't have anyone on call to respond to pages | 20:22 |
| nibalizer | so we could dump it in graphite just to keep it | 20:22 |
| nibalizer | actually those metrics are definitely exposed via the secure endpoint | 20:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create propose_translation_update for horizon https://review.openstack.org/82176 | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: propose_translation_update: Handle .tx/config in git https://review.openstack.org/82384 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Create propose_translation_update for horizon https://review.openstack.org/82176 | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use rolled-up nodepool stats https://review.openstack.org/82388 | 20:59 |
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| mattoliverau | jeblair: Yay! Puppetboard!! | 21:19 |
| mordred | mattoliverau: it's exciting isn't it? | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah, it really is :) But looks like it will be a source a many more bugs... now that the world can see puppet errors :P | 21:34 |
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| mordred | yah | 21:51 |
| mordred | mattoliverau: otoh - maybe we can fix them | 21:52 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 21:56 |
| mattoliverau | lol, defintely, maybe now that the puppet runs are more visible we can fix the problems and the old puppet hanging bugs could be thing of the past :) | 21:58 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 21:58 |
| mattoliverau | morning jhesketh | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: fix installation of nodepool on jenkins-dev https://review.openstack.org/61321 | 22:00 |
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| fungi | mattoliverau: it's worth pointing out... the bugs were already there | 22:21 |
| fungi | however, only a handful of us with access to the syslog on each of those systems was finding and fixing them previously | 22:21 |
| fungi | now you can instead! ;) | 22:21 |
| mordred | yay! | 22:24 |
| mattoliverau | fungi: that's true, I can indeed :) | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fixup logstash vhost template to use @global vars https://review.openstack.org/80469 | 22:30 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: have you tested https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71739/ with puppet apply? | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fixup lodgeit templates to use @global vars https://review.openstack.org/80470 | 22:31 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: from reading the docs, it appears it might be tricky to deal with | 22:40 |
| mordred | nibalizer, AaronGr: in general, it's extremely important that "git clone git://git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/config ; cd config ; puppet apply $some_amount_of_command_line_args" works ... or something of similar complexity | 22:41 |
| nibalizer | so long as we bring a hiera.yaml and specify it we should be ok with puppet apply | 22:42 |
| mordred | nibalizer, AaronGr: a "git grep 'puppet apply'" in the config repo will show the places where we use the form | 22:42 |
| mordred | k- I _think_ we might need to specify it via --confdir (in 2.7 it's expected to be in $confdir/hiera.yaml) - but I'm pretty sure I agree with you | 22:43 |
| lifeless | rustlebee: can I get a copy of the crontab you used for reviewstats? | 22:43 |
| lifeless | rustlebee: I've setup a VM to host a temporary copy of it on | 22:44 |
| mordred | nibalizer: we might have more problems with the path specification, since we won't be doing puppet apply rooted on /etc/puppet | 22:45 |
| mordred | nibalizer: can we reference confdir in hiera.yaml ? | 22:45 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: http://paste.openstack.org/show/74106 | 22:59 |
| mordred | nibalizer: perhaps like that | 22:59 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: or more completely: http://paste.openstack.org/show/74107 | 23:10 |
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| lifeless | wow | 23:16 |
| lifeless | 2014-03-23 22:10:25.272 | Cloning into 'devstack-gate'... | 23:16 |
| lifeless | 2014-03-23 22:10:25.433 | Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure | 23:16 |
| lifeless | 2014-03-23 22:10:26.551 | [SCP] Connecting to static.openstack.org | 23:16 |
| lifeless | 2014-03-23 22:10:30.705 | [SCP] No file(s) found: logs/** | 23:16 |
| lifeless | ever seen failures like that ? | 23:16 |
| lifeless | 2014-03-23 22:10:31.000 | [SCP] ‘logs/**’ doesn’t match anything, but ‘**’ does. Perhaps that’s what you mean? | 23:16 |
| lifeless | http://logs.openstack.org/40/75540/11/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/b7a841c/console.html | 23:17 |
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| mordred | lifeless: I have not - although | 23:19 |
| mordred | 2014-03-23 22:10:25.249 | git.openstack.org: Temporary failure in name resolution | 23:19 |
| mordred | seems to be your real problem | 23:19 |
| lifeless | ah gnnnnar | 23:19 |
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| lifeless | I'm thinking we want a local git mirror in this cloud too | 23:21 |
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| mordred | that - and/or also getting dns fixed | 23:22 |
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| lifeless | mordred: dns isn't broken | 23:25 |
| lifeless | mordred: networking is | 23:25 |
| lifeless | mordred: (dns for that vm is 8.8.8.8) | 23:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Set paramiko version > 1.9.0 https://review.openstack.org/82404 | 23:38 |
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| jeblair | lifeless: why do you say networking is broken? | 23:41 |
| lifeless | jeblair: because we regularly see small networking issues in this rack | 23:45 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i think in this case, dns really is broken | 23:46 |
| lifeless | jeblair: PXE, TFTP, DNS, wget performance, a raft of things. | 23:46 |
| clarkb | lifeless: isn't it that infiniband stuff? | 23:46 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i see a lot of similar failures, and we just merged some changes on friday to image builds related to dns | 23:46 |
| lifeless | clarkb: a lot of it certainly was/is, and we've only fixed the network node. | 23:46 |
| jeblair | lifeless: picking a ready tripleo node at random, i see that resolv.conf says: nameserver 192.168.1.1 | 23:46 |
| lifeless | whaaa | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Shorten update spinner fadeout on status page https://review.openstack.org/82019 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add support to status page to collapse changesets https://review.openstack.org/82018 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add expand by default option to status page https://review.openstack.org/82290 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add a total progress bar to each change https://review.openstack.org/82017 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Format change headers like infra's status page https://review.openstack.org/82016 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add a filter box to status.html https://review.openstack.org/82279 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Build status page more jquery like https://review.openstack.org/81717 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Update zuul's status page to bootstrap 3.1.1 https://review.openstack.org/82013 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add demo support for openstack's live zuul feed https://review.openstack.org/82014 | 23:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add in progress bars for jobs https://review.openstack.org/82015 | 23:47 |
| jeblair | lifeless: that's surprising, our change from friday should have set it to 127.0.0.1, which is a caching-forwarding resolver that, in this case should be forwarding to 8.8.8.8 | 23:47 |
| jeblair | lifeless: the second part of that is correct (unbound is running and configured correctly to forward to 8.8.8.8; i don't know why resolv.conf has the rfc1918 addr though) | 23:48 |
| lifeless | jeblair: thats plain wrong, bad network configuration fo rthe test network. | 23:48 |
| lifeless | at a guess | 23:48 |
| lifeless | poking now | 23:48 |
| jeblair | lifeless: it got it from the eth1 dhcp lease | 23:49 |
| lifeless | jeblair: thats what I expected | 23:49 |
| lifeless | fail | enable_dhcp | True | | 23:50 |
| lifeless | gnar neutron subnet-update is so useless! | 23:51 |
| jeblair | lifeless: i _thought_ i tested the tripleo node; any chance something about this changed in the past week or so? | 23:51 |
| lifeless | no | 23:51 |
| jeblair | lifeless: in that case, i'm sorry i didn't catch this in testing | 23:52 |
| lifeless | ok, enable_dhcp set to False for that | 23:53 |
| lifeless | oh no, thats not what I wanted. | 23:53 |
| lifeless | I want to disable dns_nameserver | 23:55 |
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| lifeless | 1.1 is owned by the dhcp agent | 23:56 |
| lifeless | actually, I'm not sure that I *can* disable this | 23:56 |
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