Monday, 2014-06-09

anteayado we know any six maintainers?00:00
Alex_GaynorI already pinged the six maintainer00:00
anteayathanks00:00
anteayawhat timezone is that person in?00:00
Alex_GaynorWest coast US00:00
anteayawhy do they release on a sunday?00:00
Alex_Gaynor:shrug:00:01
mordredAlex_Gaynor: we should start keeping a record of how many times openstack deps make releases and how many times they break things and present it next year at pycon00:01
anteayait is 5pm on a Sunday west coast time, why is that the preferred release time?00:01
mordredAlex_Gaynor: you know, maybe during tip bof00:01
Alex_GaynorThat's when he has some free time I guess?00:01
Alex_Gaynormordred: Pretty sure the graph is something like: 80% setuptools, 20% everything else00:01
anteayainteresting00:01
mordredAlex_Gaynor: :)00:01
Alex_GaynorI feel bad for the setuptools maintainer, he inherited a project with limited testing infrastructure, and 10 years of bizzare hacks on top of it00:02
Alex_Gaynorif this isn't fixed in a few, I'll send a PR to pin six00:02
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mordredAlex_Gaynor: yah.00:14
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clarkbdont pin six00:16
clarkbpinning six is worst thing ever00:17
Alex_Gaynornoted00:17
clarkbit is a forward compat lib so pretty much needs to be unpinned :(00:17
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mordredclarkb: but it broken00:25
clarkblast time we pinned six it made everything break00:25
mordredclarkb: yah. I mean, I agree with you00:26
clarkbif you need to exclude a six release00:26
mordredclarkb: but also, it's broken00:26
clarkbdont pin it00:26
mordredoh - just adda  !x.x.x yeah?00:26
clarkbyes00:26
mordrednod00:26
clarkbor is it != ?00:27
clarkbin any case do that :)00:27
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mordredclarkb: what are you doing here - aren't you supposed to be in BC?00:30
clarkbI am waiting for my return boat00:33
clarkbthe museum kicked everyone out at 500:33
anteayaclarkb: did you have a good time until you got kicked out of the museum?00:34
clarkbyup victoria is nice00:34
anteayayay00:35
anteayaanything memorable?00:35
anteayadid you see anything that caught your attention?00:35
clarkbalso the chip and pin cards have a nice side effect of paying the bill at your table so you can let the computer figure out tip00:36
anteayayes00:36
clarkbthe parliament building tour was good00:36
anteayanice00:36
anteayadid they talk about just the building?00:36
clarkband royal bc museum is good00:37
anteayaor did you get a helping of canadian politics00:37
anteayacool00:37
anteayadid you see any first nations art?00:37
clarkbnot politics but government structure00:37
anteayacool00:37
mordredok. just so everyone knows - the first run of the stackalytics processor takes FOREVER00:38
mordredand it is spending 80% of the time trying to get info from the openstack foudation community management system00:38
anteayainteresting to know00:39
mordredYorikSar: any idea what it thinks it's going to do with that data?00:39
clarkbanteaya: also I learned everything costs more but food is better00:41
clarkband yall do nationalistic pride like we do00:41
mordredah. it seems it's for a report that exists but that is unlinked from the main page so far00:41
mordredhttp://stackalytics.com/report/members00:42
* mordred assumes this means it's a work-in-progress report00:42
anteayaclarkb: yeah, we be fairly unhumble in some respects00:49
anteayathe old retired folks have more time for flag waving than others00:49
anteayaVictoria is the retirement capital of Canada00:49
anteayaglad you are enjoying the food00:49
anteayacosts are higher since restaurant staff are paid a minimum wage00:50
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clarkbthey are in washington and oregon too00:51
anteayacool00:51
anteayaI am glad to hear that00:51
anteayayay washington and oregon00:51
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clarkbbeacon hill park was neat too00:54
clarkbthe herons are nesting right now00:54
mordredooh. herons00:55
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mordredok. http://stackalytics.openstack.org is running and populated with data. there's a 4 hour cron job01:04
mordredit's a little wonky, which I think is probably due to the differences in mod_wsgi and uwsgi01:05
mordredso we probably do want to figure out how to run in a uwsgi container01:05
anteayaI have never been to beacon hill01:09
anteayaI feel I am missing out01:09
anteayayay stacklytics.o.o01:09
clarkband did you know women fill the 3 most powerful positions of BC government01:11
alkari1@ mordered @mordred_phone : Thank you01:13
anteayaclarkb: I know that the premier is female01:13
anteayaI didn't know women had the 3 most powerful positions though01:14
clarkbspeaker and lt gov too apparently01:14
anteayafor a time we had parity in provinciap premiers01:14
anteayacool01:14
anteayawe had 6 women and 7 men as leaders of provincial governments01:14
anteayaI was so proud seeing that photo01:14
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mgagne1if we could have a way to permalink comments in Gerrit, that would be great.02:30
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mgagnezaro: ^ =)02:38
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lifelesswhere do gertty bugs belong ?03:33
lifelessalso, I'm lost on why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93253/ is throwing a jenkins error.03:34
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harlowja_at_homelifeless, jenkins mad at u it seems03:44
lifelessharlowja_at_home: its mad mad mad03:52
harlowja_at_home:)03:52
harlowja_at_homelike a hatter, ha03:57
Alex_Gaynorclarkb, anteaya, mordred : six is fixed04:03
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lifelessblah, gertty crash - antone seen04:48
lifeless  File "/home/robertc/.virtualenvs/openstack/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gertty/view/diff.py", line 340, i04:48
lifeless    diff = self.file_diffs[oldnew][path]04:48
lifelessKeyError: '/COMMIT_MSG'04:48
lifelessanyone, that is04:48
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YorikSarmordred: No idea. I guess it's fetching info about developers and company affilation.05:12
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lifelesswhere does one report bugs about not being able to report bugs on gertty in storyboard ?05:30
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flashgordonI see no progress on the gate over the weekend05:46
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harlowja_at_homejogo, ya, it seems to have gotten a teenie bit better, but not much05:53
lifelessjogo: indeed05:53
lifelessjogo: I'm seeing a bug you downgraded from critical to high now showing up on rechecks05:53
lifelessjogo:  recheck bug 127550005:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1275500 in nova "Cannot reboot instance: Network filter not found: Could not find filter" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127550005:54
jogomatt riedemann made some good progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/129847205:56
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1298472 in tempest "SSHTimeout in tempest scenario tests using nova-network" [Critical,In progress]05:56
jogolifeless: hmm if there is no ER query for that make sure there is05:57
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jogoand that will help us better triage its real priority05:57
lifelessjogo: there is05:59
lifelessjogo: 10-15 a day started up recently05:59
lifelessso its not at the 80/day level05:59
lifelessbut its not trivial either05:59
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jogolifeless: bumping that back up to critical seems reasoanble to me06:01
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lifelessdoing so06:01
lifelessok so sphinx is driving me batty06:01
lifelesson my pbr spec in oslo-specs06:01
jogooh haha yeah06:02
jogoits very finicky06:02
lifeless06:02
lifeless/home/robertc/work/oslo-specs/doc/source/specs/juno/pbr-semver.rst:202: SEVERE: Title level inconsistent:06:02
lifelessAssignee(s)06:02
lifelessAssignee(s) a06:02
SergeyLukjanovfolks, I've been afk whole weekend << mordred, fungi, clarkb06:02
lifeless-----------06:02
lifeless-------------06:02
lifelessif I change that to06:02
jogoohh that one06:02
lifelessit works Just Fine06:02
lifelessW06:02
lifelessT06:02
lifelessF06:02
lifelesssame indent character06:02
jogoanyway back to the weekend for me.06:03
jogohave fun lifeless ;)06:03
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lifelessjogo: no suggestions ?06:03
jogolifeless:  patch?06:03
lifelessjogo: boom tish06:04
lifelessjogo: btw want to meet up when i"m in sunnyvale?06:04
jogosure, when will that be?06:04
lifelesssee your work email or g+ :P06:04
lifeless22nd through 27th06:04
jogomy work email won't me me login for some reason -- sorting out tomorrow06:05
jogog+ whats that ? haha anyway sounds good06:05
jogoo/06:05
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SergeyLukjanovmordred, btw I don't know how stackalytics works internally, only high-level things06:10
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krotschecklifeless: What’s wrong with storyboard?06:35
krotschecklifeless: Ah, nevermind06:36
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lifelesskrotscheck: I wanted to file a bug on gertty06:41
lifelesskrotscheck: gertty claims its using storyboard as bugtracker06:41
lifelesskrotscheck: I tried to add a story but it appeared to do nothing06:41
lifelesskrotscheck: I then tried to file a bug on storyboard itself, but that appeared to do nothing.06:41
lifelesskrotscheck: then I asked here.06:41
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krotschecklifeless: Yeah, I’ve already found the issue06:59
krotscheckPatch incoming shortly06:59
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krotschecklifeless: I lied. I found something that’s breaking storyboard, however it’s probably not related to your ability to create a story (i.e. I was able to create a new story just now). Did you happen to capture your http request log to see what the server reported back?07:07
openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Revert "Name fields checked with regex"  https://review.openstack.org/9870107:08
krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: I was just working on that!07:08
krotscheckCongrats on the fast fix :)07:08
NikitaKonovalovI've just noticed that Storyboard is not serving stories at all07:09
krotscheckNikitaKonovalov: Yeah, we’ve got a bunch of stories with nonconforming characters in the titles.07:09
lifelesskrotscheck: I did not07:14
* krotscheck makes a note to add good error messaging in the UI....07:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Revert "Name fields checked with regex"  https://review.openstack.org/9870107:15
lifelesskrotscheck: let me bring it up again07:15
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lifelesskrotscheck: looks like filing wasn't broken - listing was07:15
lifelesskrotscheck: so I've filed dups...07:16
lifelessclarkb: ^07:16
krotschecklifeless: Makes sense. That merge that just went in should have fixed the listing, give it a bit to propagate.07:16
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lifelesskrotscheck: how do I delete  https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/125 ?07:16
krotschecklifeless: Click on the little pencil icon next to the title, then click on “Remove this story"07:17
lifelessand 124 ?07:17
lifelessI didn't see a pencil07:18
lifelessis it possible that wouldn't show up if you're not logged in?07:18
lifelesshah07:18
lifelessand after deleting 12507:19
lifelessits logged me out again07:19
lifelessthats a bit harsh07:19
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lifelesskrotscheck: is hiding some but not all the UI for actions when logged out deliberate or oversight ?07:20
lifeless(the answer influences the bug I'll file :))07:20
lifelessand the bugs didn't get deleted07:22
lifelessok, I'll file a bug on that07:22
lifelessalso on the speed07:22
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lifelesskrotscheck: filed a bunch of bugs07:37
lifelesskrotscheck: all of them should be reproducible in dev if you put a latency applier on your local connection (and I *reallllly* encourage you to do that - it makes visibility into latency related performance issues about a 1000% easier)07:38
lifelesskrotscheck: [that and running ssl locally too, because of the changed cache rules HTTPS has]07:38
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openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Match #1298472 fingerprint against console tag  https://review.openstack.org/9871608:38
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names  https://review.openstack.org/9872810:05
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names  https://review.openstack.org/9872810:09
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names  https://review.openstack.org/9872810:22
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added test for Projec Groups API  https://review.openstack.org/9874511:22
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Update method improved in db api  https://review.openstack.org/9876011:58
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openstackgerritTom Fifield proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a mailing list for Win The Enterprise WG  https://review.openstack.org/9876212:01
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1275500 to match more broadly  https://review.openstack.org/9876712:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Match #1298472 fingerprint against console tag  https://review.openstack.org/9871612:27
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: remove 1285908 query  https://review.openstack.org/9877412:32
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fungianteaya: i didn't mean to imply i'd be able to graph that (i don't know who voted and who didn't but as an election official perhaps civs will tell you?), just that i could get you the raw commit counts per contributor if you have the rest of the data you need to do the comparison12:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: remove 1285908 query  https://review.openstack.org/9877412:47
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Kiallfungi: could I convince you to do another review for the designate devstack gate? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98584/ - I've realized exercises are disabled by default, so I'd like to be able to run just the designate ones via the post_test_hook until we get some tempest plugins in place (Which I can then copy the solum pattern of installing and running them via post_test_hook)12:50
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Kiallfungi: thanks :)12:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Move designate pre/post dsvm hooks to the designate repo  https://review.openstack.org/9858413:05
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: StoryBoard search spec  https://review.openstack.org/9725413:06
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sdaguefungi: can we get a promote on this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98632/13:17
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mesteryMorning folks!13:19
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phschwartzmorning infra. Finally pain free and hoping to get some work done :)13:22
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sdaguefungi / SergeyLukjanov either of you guys have time for a promote?13:30
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Added field restrictions and error messages to project forms  https://review.openstack.org/9587313:30
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Validate Project and Project Groups names  https://review.openstack.org/9872813:32
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anteayafungi: ah okay, well it turns out it is academic anyway since the system we use simply tells me who is eligble to vote, I have access to zero data about who actually took the time to cast a vote13:38
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anteayaAlex_Gaynor: yay, thanks for helping six to be fixed13:39
Alex_Gaynoranteaya: Let's not give me too much credit, all I did was file an issue and complain on IRC :-)13:40
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anteayaAlex_Gaynor: I give you credit for that13:40
anteayaAlex_Gaynor: thank you13:40
Kiallsdague: re the designate gate API call - I realized on Saturday (after sending the email on Friday) that the devstack-gate doesn't run the exercises by default anymore. fungi just landed a change to the gate job that will let me run them. The 1 API call you saw was a call to do some initial config, the output is buried in the middle of devstacklog.txt.gz @ http://bit.ly/Uo8TVQ .. the actual exercises should be running once the series of13:41
Kialldesignate devstack patches I made over the weekend land.13:41
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sdagueKiall: ok, cool13:42
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Kiall(I *only* have 13 patches pending to our DevStack plugin - lots of cleanups + additions + updates to match current devstack patterns ;))13:44
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bookwarhi all, Is it possible for third-party voting CI (fuel-ci) to become a required CI for corresponding projects(stackforge/fuel-*)? I'd like to disable merging the code if it doesn't have +1 from CI13:45
sdagueyeh, so I'm not actually looking at patches that aren't gate related until the failure rate drops13:45
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anteayabookwar: that is not possible13:50
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anteayabookwar: code merges based on the gate13:50
anteayabookwar: we aren't going to set a precident for code only merging based on feedback of a third party ci13:51
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anteayaif you don't want the code to merge, but the tests in teh gate13:51
anteayas/but/put13:51
bookwaranteaya: ok, thanks13:52
anteayaanytime13:52
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fungisdague: promoting 98632 now13:55
sdaguefungi: thanks13:56
fungisdague: looks like it's 4 minutes from getting enqueued, so i'm going to wait for it to end up in the gate rather than manually enqueuing13:57
fungiand then i'll send it to the front of the line13:57
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sdaguefungi: sounds good13:57
sdagueyeh, last test is just uploading artifacts now13:58
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fungisdague: should we add any others behind it? (98515,2, 97757,1)13:58
sdaguefungi: it's in13:58
sdaguefungi: sure13:59
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make mistral-dsvm jobs voting  https://review.openstack.org/9879913:59
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fungidone. looks like there was a failure at the head of the gate in the last few minutes, so no real loss there14:00
sdaguethe fact that py34 tox doesn't work in ubuntu makes me kind of sad14:00
sdaguemeans I can't actually iterate on any python 3 fixes14:00
fungisdague: known bug? need newer tox?14:00
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sdaguefungi: honestly, I don't know14:01
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fungisdague: i see some recentish bugs (in the past ~8 months) about virtualenv support for 3.414:02
openstackgerritPhilip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creation of vinz project in the openstack-infra scheme.  https://review.openstack.org/9395314:03
fungisdague: if you're using our posargs methodology then you're stuck running tox 1.6 (at least until 1.8 is available) which bundles a releatively older virtualenv, so might not have 3.6 fixes14:03
fungier, 3.4 fixes14:04
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sdagueyeh, it's just frustrating14:04
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sdaguehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/83416/14:05
phschwartzfungi: anteaya: Mind taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93953/ to make sure nothing is missing.14:05
fungisdague: if so, that's probably going to delay our ability to ditch the py3k-precise nodepool node type14:05
anteayaphschwartz: morning, it is on my review list14:05
fungihere's hoping holger releases 1.8 soonsoonsoon14:05
anteayatop of my todo list today is sdague's state of the gate email and anything I can do to help14:06
phschwartzanteaya: ty, finally got back to it after my back injury now that I can sit in a chair for extended periods of time.14:06
anteayaa healthy gate makes for a better week14:06
anteayaphschwartz: I'm sorry to hear about your back, what happened?14:06
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phschwartzanteaya: slight bulging disc between L4 and L5 that I got from hitting rocks under the surf when I dove into the water at the beach to grab a 2 year old that went under and didn't come back up.14:07
sdaguefungi: hmmm... if I purge out virtualenv from pip and use the ubuntu packaged one this seems like it's working now14:07
anteayadid you get the 2 year old?14:07
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phschwartzanteaya: yeah. I got him and he is ok other then getting really scared that day and swallowing some water.14:08
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anteayaphschwartz: glad to hear you saved him14:08
phschwartzanteaya: it was worth the back injury to make sure a child was ok14:09
anteayaphschwartz: I hear that14:09
anteayaphschwartz: well done14:09
anteayaphschwartz: well I hope stretching and yoga and physiotherapy are in your long term plans14:09
anteayaphschwartz: and yes, I will review your patch14:09
anteayaphschwartz: welcome back14:09
sdagueoh, that just gets me to an obscure testr failure14:10
phschwartzanteaya: they are, and ty14:10
anteaya:D14:10
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fungisdague: it's possible you could upgrade to latest virtualenv in the tox environment and then reuse it to see if there's a recently fixed virtualenv bug blocking you14:10
fungior it could be that testr also has 3.4 issues ;()14:11
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sdagueoh - https://bugs.launchpad.net/testrepository/+bug/122944514:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1229445 in testrepository "db type could not be determined (dup-of: 1212909)" [High,Triaged]14:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1212909 in testrepository "ImportError _bsddb with deadsnakes python2.6 anydbm" [Critical,Triaged]14:11
sdaguewhich means you can never have a unit test env that tests both 2 and 3, because if 2 runs first it creates testr db files that 3 can't read14:12
anteayafungi: I'm just thinking about stats, would it be worthwhile to do a pie graph just showing how many of 1510 contributors have 1 commit and how many have more than 1?14:12
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fungianteaya: what we could probably do is find the upper bound and make bands with the top x%,y%,z%,whatever contributor groupings and then count the percentage of each of those who voted14:14
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fungiand note the number of commits at each group boundary in case we later want to consider a minimum commit cut-off or something14:15
anteayaokay, let's do that14:15
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anteayawe can have the data as a point of conversation14:16
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anteayathere are various interpretations of what would be involved to change the commit cut-off from anything other than one14:16
fungii can get you the lists of voters in each band (maybe we do bands of 10% increments)14:16
anteayawhich is why I changed directions and went with increasing participation14:16
fungidoing grouping is crucial however, since exposing a commit count+vote would actually destroy voter anonymity14:17
anteayawhat would happen if we did 1 commit, 2 commits, 5 commits, 8 commits and then bands of 10?14:17
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anteayasince it is the difference in the lower numbers that I really would like to see14:17
fungionce we have the raw correlation (which we can't publish for privacy/anonymity reasons) we can play with slicing and dicing it however we want i guess14:18
anteayawe don't have any data on who voted14:18
openstackgerritDavid Johansen proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding second failure option to the email-ext module  https://review.openstack.org/9880314:18
anteayathe system we use doesn't give me that data14:18
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anteayaI only have the voters list I fed in, so eligible to vote14:18
fungianteaya: oh, civs won't tell you whether or not a particular member of the electorate voted? in that case we can't really put this analysis together14:18
anteayacorrect, I have no idea who voted14:19
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anteayaI just wanted to see from the voters list, what percentage of people had 1 commit, or 2 commits, or 5 commits14:19
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anteayabut I still won't know who voted and who didn't14:19
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anteayawe are guessing that people with more commits are more likely to cast a ballot14:20
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anteayabut we have no data on that, nor will we have14:20
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fungiahh, maybe. in that case stackalytics probably already has a graph for committer % breakdown (which will be ~=voters)14:21
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anteayahmmmm, okay I will look14:21
fungiyeah, if there's no actual correlation to votes cast we need to worry about, then there's plenty of raw data and analysis already out there about our contributor base14:22
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anteayathere is no actual graph, but for icehouse stackalytics tracks 1202 contributors, 344 of which have 1 commit so 344/1202 is 28.6 percent14:25
anteayaso if we assume that most of that 28.6 percent are not voting in the tc election, that is a large number14:26
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sdagueanteaya: yeh, I think that was the idea. Assume that if you had a single commit accepted the likelyhood of voting was low14:27
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anteaya318 commiters with 1 commit in havana, out of 1051 tracked contributors = 30.2% for havana14:28
anteayajust icehouse and havana voted last election14:29
anteayabut I am going to look at the other releases to see if we have been sitting around 30% single contribution perencentage14:29
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Added 'docs' job for manila project  https://review.openstack.org/9846514:42
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anteayaI added my numbers to the bottom of this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/electoral-discussion-May-2014-numbers14:47
anteayathe thing I was wondering as I did this, how many commiters made 1 commit in a release and made 1 or more than 1 in a following release14:47
fungianteaya: that gets into relatively complex data mining to trend individual contributor growth patterns in aggregate. not my field ;)14:48
fungii know some people who know some people though...14:48
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anteayaha ha ha14:50
anteayamore than I want to get into on a Monday morning before I have had food14:50
anteayaor even after food14:51
fungiyeah, this is when you need some friends with degrees in social statistics14:51
anteayaso I'm not sure if I have provided clarity here, or muddied the waters14:51
anteayaI don't think I have any friends like that14:51
anteayaI'm going to have to get out of the house and meet some people14:52
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fungii used to work at a company (in the beforetime, in the long-long-ago) which analyzed anonymized chains of web browsing patterns out of packet captures at internet service providers. there's a whole science to that sort of analysis14:53
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anteayawow14:53
anteayaI don't what to know about the patterns14:54
anteayas/what/want14:54
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: do not override ceilometer default polling interval  https://review.openstack.org/9881514:54
fungiright. we had a department full of phd statisticians and social scientists for it14:54
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phschwartzIs salt actually being used in infra right now or is that still the basis of having everything ready for a time when salt might be used?14:54
anteayabet you they were fun at parties14:54
anteayaphschwartz: salt is being removed14:55
anteayaphschwartz: we are moving to ansible14:55
anteayamordred has some patches up14:55
anteayaI am sad about it14:55
fungiphschwartz: we never got very far into using it for anything other than running commands in aggregate across static jenkins slaves, and then got rid of most of our static jenkins slaves14:55
phschwartzmordred: do you have links to your patches where you moved to ansible. I want to take a look to see if I can help at all with the work I have done for our mirror of infra internal at Rax14:56
fungiphschwartz: however mordred has recently also been playing with ansible for remote execution, so i suggested he talk to you once you were back14:56
anteayaArxCruz: are you around today?14:56
fungiha!14:56
fungiphschwartz: you read my mind ;)14:56
phschwartzfungi: :)14:56
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phschwartzI have playbooks that use the ansible rax modules to replace launch_node.py and for automated creation of the puppetmaster so I defn am interested in where he was going with it.14:57
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anteayaphschwartz: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/config+branch:master+topic:ansible,n,z14:58
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phschwartzanother question. Any chance infra is interested in an update that makes domain name being used configurable instead of hard coded? I did the work to create our mirror of infra and it should be adaptable upstream15:00
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fungiphschwartz: sounds like that might be something which could be easily abstracted out in site.pp? though there are several large puppet manifest refactoring efforts underway one of which might already be doing that15:04
* fungi needs to get caught up on reviews15:05
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phschwartzfungi: that is exactly how I did it. in site.pp. I will wait to see what else is going on. I want to finish reviewing these reviews from mordred first15:05
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fungiphschwartz: in fact, if you want to go hunting in openstack-infra/config changes for ongoing puppet improvements which need reviewing, and help pick them apart for bugs, that would be a huge help15:08
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phschwartzfungi: I will do that today. I promised you guys I would get more involved so might as well live up to that promise :)15:09
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fungiphschwartz: there is no better way to get involved than to review, so thanks!15:10
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phschwartzfungi: anteaya: ok, I am blanking or just not been around enough recently. Can one of you point me to what I might have screwed up. http://logs.openstack.org/53/93953/6/check/gate-config-layout/fefbbe7/console.html15:26
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dhellmannmordred: how did you manage to vote "verified" on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97872/ ?15:26
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sdaguedhellmann: extra special powers15:27
dhellmannsdague: I thought maybe he had turned into a bot.15:27
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fungiphschwartz: "Job vinz-docs [...] vinz-pypi-upload not defined" so probably something's off-kilter with your job templates... looking at those now15:27
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anteayaphschwartz: py33 isn't in python-jobs15:29
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anteayayou need python3-jobs (I think) to call py33 jobs15:29
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fungiphschwartz: oh, well for starters {name}-pypi-upload isn't a job template any longer... now there are {name}-pypi-wheel-upload and {name}-pypi-both-upload15:29
fungi(the latter of which uploads both wheels and tarballs)15:30
mordreddhellmann: I used special cow powers15:30
phschwartzah, I see the issue. The first failure I had was because the code was outdated. I rebased and didn't notice that the jobs had changed15:30
mordreddhellmann: (actually, that was an oops, sorry about that)15:31
anteayamordred: stay in your lane15:31
fungimordred: super cow powers? (¡supercow al rescate!)15:31
mordredphschwartz: hey!15:32
phschwartzfungi: let me fix those issues and also mirror the puppet-storyboard additions also15:32
fungiphschwartz: sounds like a good idea15:32
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phschwartzmordred: I took a look at your reviews for ansible. Like what is there :)15:33
phschwartzmordred: I am going to adapt my stuff to use it instead of bothering with more changes to it.15:33
phschwartzmordred: I did have one question on one review that I posted as a comment in it though15:33
mordredphschwartz: awesome! I'm very pleased with it so far - in fact, I think I'm going to submit a talk somewhere about "ansible+puppet"15:33
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phschwartzmordred: That is how we run all of our infra here at Rax.15:34
phschwartzansible + puppet in masterless mode.15:34
fungiansipet... puppible...15:34
mordredphschwartz: ++15:34
mordredphschwartz: I don't see the question...15:35
phschwartzmordred: it is on https://review.openstack.org/9636215:35
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mordredthanks15:36
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phschwartzmordred: I have been trying to figure the best way to work out how infra uses puppet and how we have things internal here. I have been having trouble with puppetmaster as I  am just not familiar with how it does key management15:36
mordredphschwartz: ah - so my idea is that we'd land the one before this one and let it run to remove things, and then later we'd land that patch15:37
phschwartzmordred: That is what I thought which is why I wanted to ask and make sure.15:37
mordredphschwartz: so, the main thing with puppet master is that in a manual world it expects that the first time a node runs puppet, it will contact the puppetmaster and this will create a cert signing request on the puppetmaster15:37
mordredand then on the puppetmaster you're supposed to go and say "oh, look, the mail server wants to join"15:38
mordredthis is, of course, stupid15:38
mordredso in launch_node, we run commands on the puppetmaster to pre-create a key for a given hostname, then we copy that key on to the host when we create it15:38
mordredso that when it talks to the master it's already been pre-signed on the master15:38
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phschwartzok, I see what your doing and that is what got me confused. I should have traced through it more.15:39
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fungithis has one crypto down-side, which is that anyone who gets their hands on a copy of the keys from the puppet master can now impersonate any server it knows about. in practice this is basically a non-issue however15:39
mordredphschwartz: are you using ansible to do the nova api calls for node creation too? you said you're using it for launch_node15:39
fungisince the puppet master also has the ca key and can revoke/replace any keys it wants15:39
mordredyeah. pretty much getting your hands on the puppetmaster though means you rule the world15:40
phschwartzmordred: I am. I have some things that I would have to clean up, but I can share it after I do that. It uses the rax module to create instances and then uses the same module to do dns updates/additions15:40
mordredfungi: since we're talkinga bout it - if you wanted to review those ansible patches I would not be offended :)15:40
mordredphschwartz: ah. well piddle. I was hoping you were using the nova module - but I'd like to see the code whenever you feel like sharing so I could learn from it15:41
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mordred(we have other people running infra not on rax, so we try to stay away from using _anything_ that's not 100% openstack - rax dns is one thing where we're making an exception at the moment, but we're not 100% thrilled about it15:42
phschwartzI can pretty easily convert it to the nova module, but that doesn't get us the dns handling. That would still need the rax module15:42
phschwartzLet me make some changes to it and I will move it to use the nova module and move the dns to a segregated role that uses the rax module.15:43
mordredyeah. that sounds like a win15:43
mordredI mean, our script right now prints out rax-dns commands15:43
fungibasically the *only* reason we're using the rax dns api client is because there is no official openstack dnsaas _yet_15:43
* mordred is looking forward to rax moving to designate15:43
phschwartzmordred: you and me both. We have an unrestricted dns api account for our deployments to use, but if we have to recreate a large portion of our control plain, we end up flooding the dns api for our apikey and have to throttle back.15:45
mordredhaha. nice15:45
phschwartzBut we are talking about a thousand+ of requests in a min15:45
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mordredbelieve me - we know exactly what you mean WRT flooding cloud apis :)15:46
fungisdague: gate stability seems to have improved dramatically15:46
mordredfungi: also, I'd love your opinion as a greybeard on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92677 - the code works, I think the outstanding questio is really "should we"15:47
anteayafungi: yay15:47
fungimordred: can we hook that up to an sms gateway?15:48
sdaguefungi: yeh, so that indicates that basically all the failures are the fact that after nova-network runs a certain number of computes, it goes silly15:48
fungisdague: makes sense. i was wondering how that one revert accomplished that (server reuse sounded like something which would have caused *more* problems, not less)15:49
fungimordred: so if we do this, should we actively try to limit our status updates to 120 characters to prevent truncation/splitting?15:50
jogofungi: I see pypi.openstack.org is still not automatically updating after a new hacking release  http://pypi.openstack.org/openstack/hacking/ latest is 0.9.115:51
mordredfungi: nah - I think we should do status updates that are what we want to say to IRC - I'd see it purely as an additional way for us to get the word out - because we _still_ have people who don't notice when we send out updates15:51
fungijogo: i'll check the log on it. i ironed a bunch of bugs out of the new wheel uploading mechanisms last week15:51
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fungibut there could still be more15:51
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jogofungi: cool, thanks15:52
fungijogo: did you maybe need to force a refresh? looks there to me15:52
jogofungi: that is the last blocker to release hacking 0.9.115:53
jogofungi: I see 0.8.1 not 0.9.115:53
fungijogo: uploaded last night (05:50 utc)15:53
jogoat http://pypi.openstack.org/openstack/hacking/15:53
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fungijogo: oh, on the mirror15:53
fungidurr15:53
fungii read that as pypi.python.org15:54
fungichecking the mirror job logs now ;)15:54
jogooh haha thanks15:54
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fungiso the *good* news is that wheel+tarball uploads to pypi seem to be reliable now (except for data-only projects with no python modules in them)15:55
fungi(which is a bug in wheels, which i need to get around to filing)15:55
jogoohh python15:55
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mordredfungi: can we loop up on the data-only projects issue15:56
mordredI beleive Iw as supposed to look in to work arounds)15:56
fungijogo: working as designed...15:56
fungijogo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/global-requirements.txt#n14015:56
fungimordred: i build a very trivial workaround (proposed to one of tie in https://review.openstack.org/98456 after testing it works)15:57
fungier, built15:57
fungimordred: but it looks like there's more interest in seeing it fixed in the wheel package instead15:58
mordredfungi: gotcha. cool15:58
mordredfungi: if we've got a simple workaround (even if it's ugly) and upstream sees it as a bug15:58
jogofungi: ohh I thought we had as special clause for hacking, but this makes more sense15:58
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fungijogo: yes, if newer hacking isn't allowed in global-reqs, we're not going to mirror it15:59
jgriffithmriedem: fungi either of you have an objection to me creating a non-voting job for cinder conf up to date check?15:59
mordredfungi: we _could_ potentially put in a thing to pbr that would detect a lack of package and if so add a blank file15:59
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fungijgriffith: sounds like a fine idea to me15:59
mordredfungi: but leaving well enough alone also seems like a good idea15:59
jgriffithmriedem: fungi it seems there will be a revolt if I remove it entirely15:59
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jgriffithfungi: good enough for me... I'll see what I can work out16:00
fungimordred: yeah, dstufft agreed it's a bug, i was just too far under water last week to find time to file it16:00
mordred++16:01
sdaguefungi: more importantly that server reuse patch actually passed through check and gate fine, which means it passed tempest running those tests at least 10 times with no fails16:01
mordredfungi: with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96636 - it makes me wonder if, if we do go down this path (which rax also being down the path makes me even more excited to do) - whether we shouldn't split out that tree into its own tree that we git sync similar to but different from infra/config16:01
mordredsdague: nice!16:02
mordredsdague: what's the tl;dr on the server reuse patch? I tried to find the convo in the scrollback but failed...16:02
fungisdague: not only that, it was rechecked several times and passed every one16:02
sdaguemordred: well, not nice, because reverting it made things better16:02
sdaguefungi: no, I mean the initial patch16:02
sdaguethat was reverted16:02
fungisdague: oh! i thought you meant the revert16:03
sdaguefungi: nope16:03
fungiweird16:03
sdagueI went back to make sure it wasn't one of the ones I asked you to ninja merge16:03
sdagueand it wasn't16:03
sdaguemordred: the actions tests in tempest reuse a guest (and rebuild it if it looks funky) because they all do odd things to guests and so would be otherwise expensive16:04
sdagueI thought that was adding variability, so made it not do that and start a new guest each time16:04
sdagueand that all passed16:04
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sdaguethen sun spots shifted16:04
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sdagueand nova network stopped being able to create networks in any vaguely reliable way16:05
sdagueand reverting that patch seems to have made it better16:05
fungisdague: though actually, that patchset failed a couple of tempest jobs with unidentified failures in resize tests, and dkranz did a recheck no bug on it16:05
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sdaguefungi: they were identified resize failures16:05
fungiaha16:05
sdaguejust not in the patch stream16:05
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add hacking 0.9.0 series  https://review.openstack.org/9882416:05
jogofungi: ^ I think that should do it16:05
sdaguewe had a resize patch fix running in parallel16:05
fungigot it16:06
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mordredsdague: wow.16:06
mordredsdague: this makes me want to call elastic-recheck "sunspots" btw16:07
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sdague:)16:07
mriedemfungi: yeah we got the resize/migration failures fixed last week via another revert16:07
fungioh, awesome16:08
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sdagueso... here is the suspicious part16:09
openstackgerritPhilip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creation of vinz project in the openstack-infra scheme.  https://review.openstack.org/9395316:10
sdagueafter the revert of mriedem's patch - http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJidWlsZF9zaG9ydF91dWlkOjEwNWRiNjggQU5EIG1lc3NhZ2U6XCJJbnN0YW5jZSBzcGF3bmVkXCIiLCJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJvZmZzZXQiOjAsInRpbWVmcmFtZSI6IjYwNDgwMCIsImdyYXBobW9kZSI6ImNvdW50IiwidGltZSI6eyJ1c2VyX2ludGVydmFsIjowfSwic3RhbXAiOjE0MDIzMzAxNjA5Mjl916:10
sdaguesorry, mriedem's revert of my patch16:10
phschwartzanteaya: fungi: I think I have the issue fixed, lets wait for check to run and see.16:10
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sdaguewe spawn 230 guests in a tempest full run16:10
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sdaguebefore, http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJidWlsZF9zaG9ydF91dWlkOjg1MTJmZTIgQU5EIG1lc3NhZ2U6XCJJbnN0YW5jZSBzcGF3bmVkXCIiLCJmaWVsZHMiOltdLCJvZmZzZXQiOjAsInRpbWVmcmFtZSI6IjYwNDgwMCIsImdyYXBobW9kZSI6ImNvdW50IiwidGltZSI6eyJ1c2VyX2ludGVydmFsIjowfSwic3RhbXAiOjE0MDIzMzAwNTU4MzJ916:11
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sdague27816:11
sdagueand with a magic number in between16:11
fungiand here i thought 3 was a magic number16:11
arunkantHi..still waiting for merge of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95842/. It was code reviewed by keystone core and infra core earlier...still waiting for this merge to happen as this one blocking another keystone change.16:11
sdague:)16:11
fungithough i guess 256 wouldn't have worked as well in the song16:11
mordredsdague: wait - you're telling me that we're tripping ... a 256 problem?16:12
mordredin python code?16:12
mordredwhat, are we doing bitshifting?16:12
fungi<<2416:12
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mordredfungi: please tell me you're just kidding16:13
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mriedem256 == fixed ips?16:14
fungimordred: i am just kidding16:14
mordredwow. you are not kidding16:14
fungibut yes, we're inheriting from ye olde ipv416:14
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mordredfungi: go "git grep '<<'" in the nova repo16:14
zaromorning16:14
mordrednova/ipv6/account_identifier.py:    static_num = netaddr.IPAddress(0xff << 24)16:14
jogohaha16:14
fungimordred: now you have me afraid16:14
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mordrednova/ipv6/account_identifier.py:                   int(hashlib.sha1(project_id).hexdigest()[:8], 16) << 32)16:15
mordrednova/tests/virt/vmwareapi/test_driver_api.py:        mem_kib = long(self.type_data['memory_mb']) << 1016:15
fungieek! there should already be a primitive for that16:15
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mordredfungi: now, luckily, the ipv6 dir is the only place that we're doing that that's not in extension land16:15
fungiif you're bitshifting with crypto libraries, "you're doing it wrong"[tm]16:15
mordreduhm. yeah16:16
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sdaguemordred: network_size                   = 25616:16
fungialso, seriously, someone did <<10 when they could have just added *1024?!? madness16:16
jogosdague: so how do folks use more then 256 instances with nova network?16:16
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mordredjogo: who needs more than 256 instances?16:17
sdaguejogo: I don't know for sure that it's the issue16:17
mordrednova/tests/test_nova_manage.py:                            network_size=256,16:17
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sdaguehowever, the fact that our failure rate went way up once we crossed that boundary, and way down once we came back, is suspicious16:18
mordred++16:18
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sdagueespecially given that the changes *should* have made us more reliable16:18
sdagueas we were using a clean guest each time16:18
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jogoyeah. I wonder if vishy is around this week. He knows more about nova-net then anyone else16:18
fungisdague: i guess the question, sparked by mriedems comment, is have we hard-coded a /24 somewhere in devstack/tempest which is getting filled16:18
sdaguefungi: actually I think we don't set anything, and nova default is 25616:19
fungiaha16:19
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fungiand that sounds like something which should be fixed (why would that even have a default? wouldn't almost everyone need to change it?)16:19
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openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add md5 checksum to groups tarball publisher  https://review.openstack.org/9723816:20
sdaguehonestly, I think it's fine as a default16:20
sdaguethe real probably is you can't read a n-net log - http://logs.openstack.org/05/98505/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/e6e28c2/logs/screen-n-net.txt.gz16:20
fungii think 2^64 (one ipv6 network) makes a more sensible forward-looking default ;)16:20
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sdaguefungi: also realize that all the ips have to be preallocated, so that's super painful16:21
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derekh_sdague: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98154/  we fully intend to add tempest to our overcloud job in the near future (we're currently fucosed on the reliability of the image builds and simple deployment)16:21
fungioh, ouch. okay that sounds like a design flaw too16:21
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vishyjogo: sup?16:22
fungii guess the goal is to let neutron solve this problem16:22
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jogovishy: ^ read backlog, nova-network issues16:22
jogosdague: ^16:22
fungiin which case nova-net defaults seem a little less worrisome in the face of ipv6land16:22
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fungiforward-looking and nova-network probably don't really need to be found in the same sentence16:22
vishyjogo: just skimming but is the issue that you can’t create a network larger than 256 addresses?16:23
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ArxCruzWho ping me?16:23
ArxCruzCan't see in the logs :/16:23
jogovishy: with the default network_size=256 yes.16:23
jogosdague dug into this the most16:24
sdaguejogo: no, you misread it16:24
vishybecause I noticed a “feature” recently in nova network that you have to specify a larger network_size to create something bigger16:24
fungiArxCruz: anteaya, about 1.5 hours ago16:24
vishywhich makes no sense16:24
ArxCruzfungi: thanks16:24
vishyhold on one sec brb16:24
ArxCruzanteaya: sorry, had to head to dentist did I miss the meeting ?16:25
sdaguevishy: we noticed the reliability of tests dropped dramatically after we created > 250 guests during a test run16:25
jogosdague: woops, I did16:25
sdaguenot all at at once16:25
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sdaguejust over the life of the test run16:25
sdaguewhich is really suspicious16:25
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vishyok back16:26
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vishyso is the network larger than 256?16:26
sdagueno16:26
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vishyi wouldn’t be surprised if we are running out of fixed ips16:26
sdaguevishy: we're deleting the guests16:26
vishyespecially if the fixed ip release code is failing somehow16:26
sdagueprobably never more than 4 at a time are up16:26
sdagueright16:26
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sdaguethat's my suspicion16:26
vishythat has happened before :)16:26
vishydid this just start recently?16:26
vishydo you have logs from a failed run?16:27
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sdaguehttp://logs.openstack.org/98/98098/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/8512fe2/ - failed run16:27
sdaguevishy: well we crossed that boundary only very recently16:28
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vishysdague: lease/release looks fine there16:31
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sdaguevishy: yeh, like I said it's mostly suspicious16:33
mordredsdague: yah - if something is broken in ip delete, then you'd really only see that if you made more nodes than the network size over the run life16:33
vishywhat was the actual failure?16:33
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mordredand, just for the record, as consumers of openstack, we've certainly run in to problem with delete not delting things :)16:33
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Shrewsi hate when my things aren't delted  :)16:34
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sdaguevishy: at some point we couldn't ssh into a guest to verify it16:35
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sdagueand the likelyhood of that happening seems to be much higher if we allocate more than 256 guests16:36
vishythat is a really tough issue to debug16:36
vishywithout having a failed env up16:36
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vishythere could be so many things going wrong16:36
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vishycould be iptables, stale mac cache, hypervisor failure, etc.16:37
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sdagueright, this is the reason I was trying to drum up someone to make n-net be a bit more deliberate about logging what's going on :)16:38
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vishysdague: it seems odd that we are using 172.24.4.116:40
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vishyas a floating ip16:41
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clarkbo/16:46
mordredlook, it's a clarkb16:46
notmynamegood morning -infra16:47
notmynameI saw late last week that there were some long gate queues. has that been cleaned up? looks shorter today. is that because it's fixed or because of the weekend?16:47
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vishysdague: I’m suspecting stale arp cache16:48
vishywhere do we connect from?16:48
vishyi note that send_arp_for_ha=False in our config16:48
vishywe are reusing the same floating ip for a bunch of tests16:49
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mordrednotmyname: a little of both - it's still being worked16:51
mtreinishvishy: it's all run on the same host16:51
notmynamemordred: ok, thanks16:51
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vishymtreinish: hmm that’s odd16:52
mordredclarkb: ooh, neat. the fine folks at stackalytics (thanks ilyashakhat) merged most of my patches over the weekend - except for one which had a bug16:52
clarkbmordred: nice16:52
notmynamemordred: I'm looking at a 28-patches long dependency chain being merged this week. based on the numbers from last friday, that would take about 6 months. so you can understand how I'm worried16:52
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clarkbbefore I dive into more dib this morning isthere naything I can do to help with the gate triage?16:53
mtreinishvishy: it's run in the gate slaves, so devstack on a single node which also runs the tempest tests16:53
vishymtreinish: and we don’t get the console log from the vms anwhere do we?16:53
mordrednotmyname: yes indeed16:53
mtreinishvishy: on some failures we do, I have a patch out which fixes it for the majority case: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98446/16:54
vishysdague: i think i need the vm console logs (and preferrably syslog) to have a chance to debug this16:54
sdaguevishy: syslog for the box is there16:55
clarkbpleia2: that your for the e-r docs16:55
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vishysdague: i need for the vm16:55
pleia2clarkb: sure16:55
sdaguevm console logs is something we're working on16:55
mtreinishvishy: here is a console log from a ssh timeout failure: http://logs.openstack.org/46/98446/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/5e97e50/console.html.gz#_2014-06-06_18_56_04_17716:55
notmynamemordred: so that being said, I'm not sure what the possibilities are. one thing I've thought of (but don't know if it works) is to have one merge commit for the chain and only test/gate that one. but our current automatic tooling doesn't support that16:55
mordrednotmyname: ah, but it does16:56
sdagueso this is another curiosity - eyJzZWFyY2giOiJcImxhenkgbG9hZCBvcGVyYXRpb24gb2YgYXR0cmlidXRlICdmaXhlZF9pcCcgY2Fubm90IHByb2NlZWRcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiNjA0ODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQwMjMzMjg4MTYyNH016:56
clarkbmordred: you don't have a link to your slave DB changes handy do you?16:56
mordredclarkb: one sec16:56
sdaguethose are all ERROR at success16:56
notmynamemordred: tell me more :-)16:56
clarkbmordred: I should start there as my next steps are to dib unittest slaves16:56
openstackgerritPhilip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creation of vinz project in the openstack-infra scheme.  https://review.openstack.org/9395316:56
mordredclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98586/216:56
clarkbdanke16:56
mtreinishsdague: broken link...16:56
mordrednotmyname: if your sequence of things is in a branch16:57
phschwartzgod, my hands typing hate me today16:57
sdaguemtreinish: search for - "lazy load operation of attribute 'fixed_ip' cannot proceed"16:57
mordrednotmyname: then we can make a merge commit to master of that branch16:57
mordrednotmyname: and then all of the tooling will DTRT16:57
vishysdague: i think it couldn’t hurt to turn on send_arp_for_ha, might be nice to see if it helps16:58
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mordrednotmyname: you re-worked the patch series into a more readable series for review from what was in your feature branch, right?16:58
notmynamemordred: but to get the chain into gerrit, it has to pass all the gate tests anyway, right? (I'm not worried about check tests since those are parallel)16:58
sdaguevishy: sure16:58
notmynamemordred: correct. it's not a branch with a merge commit to master now, but it could be. right now it's just a set of patches to master with dependencies16:59
mordrednotmyname: we can force-push the tip of your changes to the feature/ec branch which will get the refs into gerrit16:59
mordrednotmyname: then make the merge commit to master which would be the thing that would have to pass tests16:59
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mordrednotmyname: so it would still need to be tested before landing on swift master16:59
notmynamemordred: ah. and clarkb won't come stab me for that? ;-)16:59
mordrednotmyname: he may come stab you. he's shifty16:59
clarkbmordred: I wanted to avoid breaking history on that branch17:00
notmynamemordred: right. and in fact, the set of patches are for reviewable chunks. but really all anyone is concerned about is the final result of all of them.17:00
clarkbmordred: the mp branches have taught us our lesson about that17:00
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mordredclarkb: yah. but in this case, I believe this particular set of patches has gone through review and testing so far, no?17:00
mordrednotmyname: right17:00
clarkbmordred: not if you are force pushing over them17:01
clarkbthe code in feature/ec currently has gone through that process17:01
notmynameclarkb: mordred: yes, somewhat. the reorged patches that are currently proposed are what are getting full review from the community17:02
mordredclarkb: aiui, this is the same code, just broken up into different chunks for ease of review17:02
mordredI mean, we could ALSO just propse a merge commit of the feature/ec branch in its current state17:03
notmynamemordred: correct17:03
notmynamemordred: no, we don't want that17:03
mordredand use the 17 patch re-working as the place for review17:03
mordredk17:03
* mordred just thinking out loud right now17:03
clarkbmordred: my issue is less with review and testing and more with moving a branch pointer to historically different code breaks in funny ways17:04
clarkband isn't really nice to downstream cloners17:04
mordredclarkb: we could make a new branch17:04
reedis access to our gerrit via API documented somewhere?17:04
clarkbmordred: that would be fine by me17:05
reedchecking ci.openstack.org, can't find it17:05
mordredclarkb: "feature/ec-review" - and push the tip of the review series to that once the review series has been fully +2'd17:05
clarkbreed: yes, if you click along the top bar of gerrit there is a Documentation tab17:05
mordrednotmyname: ^^17:05
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reedah, interesting, clarkb thanks... only available to authenticated... now I see it :)17:06
clarkbreed: and from there you can get to https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/rest-api.html17:06
notmynamemordred: clarkb: well on other logistics issue. the current feature/ec branch doesn't have _any_ erasure code stuff on it. and in fact, we'd like to do the erasure code work the same way, and we'd prefer the feature/ec name there since it's a good name for what we'll actually be doing. that's a separate conversation for later, but FYI17:06
clarkbreed: it should be available unauthenticated too17:06
mordrednotmyname: kk17:06
mordrednotmyname: I'm sure we can figure out something :)17:06
* mordred needs to AFK for a bit17:06
reedthe url seems to be, the link 'documentation' appeared only after I logged in17:06
mordredreed: awesome17:06
notmynamemordred: clarkb: our current goal is to approve on Wednesday17:06
clarkbreed: I am not logged in and it is there for me17:06
reeduhm17:07
mordrednotmyname: ok. just come poke us in here and we can work with you on the actual logistics17:07
notmynamemordred: ok, so to make sure I understand what you were proposing....17:07
reedweird17:07
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notmynamemordred: continue to review the current patch chain. then create feature/sp-review (note s/ec/sp). then propose merge commit and approve that17:08
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notmynamemordred: what if we just reproposed the patch chain to a feature/sp-review now? and worked from there? either way, how do we get the patches (not the merge commit) into gerrit without having to wait 6 months for the gate?17:09
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vishysdague: another useful thing that would be nice to have on failure would be the output of sudo iptables -nvL and sudo iptables -t nat -nvL and sudo ip addr and sudo brctl show17:12
vishyin other words a dump of all networking info from the box17:12
sdaguevishy: yeh, we do that some times. Definitely trying to think about a centralized location for postmortem dump so we can do that consistently17:13
sdagueit's been mostly ad-hoc applied in really troublesome tests at this point17:13
anteayamordred: can you take a minute and respond to this please? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037025.html17:14
anteayaI'm really not a fan of different groups of third party ci folks doing different things for each project17:15
anteayaI don't seem to be yelling loud enough though17:15
anteayaor anyone else who can stem this line of thought17:15
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anteayafungi: cool17:16
anteayaArxCruz: no not yet but I do need to chat with you17:16
ArxCruzanteaya: O.O what I did wrong ?17:17
anteayanothing17:17
ArxCruzoh, then okay :)17:17
sdaguefungi: do we have a dns bug open with rax?17:17
sdaguehttp://logs.openstack.org/98/98098/2/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/bab1954/ - failure is rax can't resolve mirror.rackspace.com17:17
clarkbmordred: I don't think the change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88479/16..18/modules/iptables/manifests/init.pp will work as expected. facter gives us a string not a boolean and puppet conditionals are bong hits. so in_chroot = 'false' would match that same condition I think17:17
anteayaI need you as a guinea pig for a thing we are doing to stream line info for third party ci17:17
clarkbmordred: I can test this though17:17
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sdagueclarkb: is there any way to add more capacity to the ES cluster? We keep going into runaway state just when we need that data the most17:20
clarkbsdague: what do you mean by capacity?17:20
clarkbwe are already at 6 X 60GB 8Vpcu nodes17:20
sdagueprocessing capacity17:20
clarkbwe can add more nodes17:20
clarkbbut its not cheap17:20
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clarkbalso what runaway state?17:21
clarkbthe logstash job queue?17:21
sdagueyeh17:21
clarkboh so thats actually logstash and we can add more of those nodes as well17:21
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sdagueright now that's what's biting us17:21
clarkbwe shouldn't need ES nodes actually I think they are hodling up17:21
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sdaguesure17:21
clarkbwe just can't deal with the volume of logs produces17:21
* clarkb looks at tempest logs :P17:22
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sdagueif you want to dump the tempest logs again, I'm fine with it. Though they are trumped by a factor of 3 by ceilometer in syslog17:22
clarkbsdague: right but unfortunately those are the only swift proxy logs we get17:22
sdagueyeh, but the swift proxy logs are never helpful anyway17:23
notmyname??17:23
clarkboh in that case should we start with approving your os loganalyze change?17:23
clarkbsdague: you mentioned it was completely untested so I didn't want to dive in with it17:23
sdagueclarkb: let me sort out lunch, then I'll test it17:23
clarkbsdague: awesome17:24
clarkbfungi: mordred: we have 16 x 4GB 4vcpu logstash worker nodes17:24
clarkbfungi: mordred what do you think of adding 4 more?17:24
sdaguenotmyname: the most interesting thing we've every gotten out of swift proxy logs is the 503 error. But they don't provide any operational information about what fails, so they are fundamentally not very useful for debugging things17:25
clarkbthe other option is to scale up. but the logstash stuff scales horizontally well so I am partial to that method17:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add basic elastic-recheck docs page  https://review.openstack.org/9848117:25
vishysdague: looking through the logs i think i may see the issue17:27
vishyit looks like floating ips are associated immediately after the server is created17:27
vishythat may not be safe17:27
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vishysdague: floating ips should not be associated until after the server is running17:28
notmynamemordred: how would we get the patches onto a feature branch? would that be some -infra operation to push them there once the patch chain is proposed?17:28
mriedemsdague: clarkb: fwiw, i don't think we're using tags:"tempest.txt" in any e-r queries right now - had one last night but it wasn't catching grenade fails on the n-net ssh timeout bug17:28
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vishysdague: ah nm i misread17:28
clarkbnotmyname: it is probably easier to create the branch first and push them directly to that branch17:29
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notmynameclarkb: there is still a little flux in the patches. so getting the chain approved would be less burdensome for getting the patches on a feature branch, right?17:30
clarkbnotmyname: I don't think so. proposing a chain to a branch is as easy as git review branchanme17:31
clarkband as long as you don't approve them until they are actually ready you can reorder and refactor all you want17:31
notmynameclarkb: right. I just don't want to need to have all 27 patches go through the gate check. I just want the last merge commit.17:32
clarkboh I don't think there is any way around that17:32
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notmynameclarkb: that's the issue though. that's the fundamental problem I started talking with mordred about17:33
clarkbbut it is also a fundamental git bisectability thing17:33
vishysdague: definitely does look like it is floating ip related by the log that mriedem sent17:33
clarkbnotmyname: probably better to discuss with mordred then17:33
notmynameclarkb: also, I'm ok with keeping the current feature/ec branch for historical reasons, but if so I'd prefer to have it renamed17:34
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vishythere is a small possibility there is not enough entropy for the vm to complete the ssh handshake in time17:35
vishybut that seems less likely17:35
clarkbwe do install that entropy package on the slaves but the qemu VMs may not have it17:35
fungiclarkb: more logstash workders seems fine if we expect the load to continue17:35
mtreinishvishy: yeah we increased the ssh timeout by about 100sec to test and it still failed at about the same rate so it's probably not that17:36
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* fungi is kinda afk a bunch this afternoon. landlord for the old place decided to start showing it to prospective tenants while i'm still living here, which kinda gets in the way of working17:36
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mriedemfungi: just work from the closet17:36
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mriedemfungi: when they open it to look around, surprise!17:36
fungimriedem: heh, that would be awesome17:37
fungibut instead of being awesome, i'm going to try and work from the car via netbook over mobile network17:37
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clarkbfungi: I really like working from parks on sunny days17:40
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clarkbhighly recommended17:41
pleia2thoughts on modernizing this slide? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/publications/overview/#(31) (templates, some current jobs) or do we want to keep it old style simple?17:41
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pleia2I'm giving the overview talk as a keynote next week in Croatia17:41
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clarkbpleia2: the potential problem with templates is they don't convey much info to someone looking at it for the first time17:42
pleia2clarkb: yeah17:42
clarkbpleia2: I would stick with that slide as is because it is a bit more meaningful17:42
clarkbif more verbose17:42
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lifelessmordred: I could use a hand with this weird pbr on python26 issue at the bottom of my stack17:47
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boris-42clarkb h ithere17:48
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boris-42for some reason I am not core in osprofiler17:50
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boris-42should I do something else except https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97778/4/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/stackforge/osprofiler.config17:50
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boris-42lifeless hi, btw are you going to move subunit  to stackforge?17:51
lifelessboris-42: no, github17:53
jogosdague mriedem: wow its nice to see things getting back to not horrible (http://jogo.github.io/gate/)17:55
boris-42lifeless why?17:55
mriedemnot horrible is not horrible17:57
mriedemagreed17:57
lifelessboris-42: because stackforge is part of openstack, and subunit is generic; because my subunit collaborators don't like gerrit; because latency on getting stackforge things fixed is behind {all official things} and for small teams latency is a killer.17:57
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mtreinishjogo: there was a period of 100% failure on partial n-cpu grenade?17:59
jogosdague: perhaps its time to explicitly send an email out saying its ok to start approving code?17:59
jogomtreinish: it was grenades in general17:59
jogobut yeah bad17:59
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openstackgerritPhilip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creation of vinz project in the openstack-infra scheme.  https://review.openstack.org/9395318:04
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SergeyLukjanovsdague, oh, I've been on driving lessons18:06
boris-42lifeless ok18:06
SergeyLukjanovsdague, now, ready for ninja merges18:06
SergeyLukjanovmorning folks :)18:06
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* clarkb installs squid to make dib go faster18:07
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sdaguevishy: cool, thanks for looking. I wonder if the larger number of guest creates means we were effectively leaking a floating ip at some point, but the system didn't realize it.18:14
sdaguejogo: honestly, we're at complete capacity right now anyway. And I'd like to figure out if things are holding.18:15
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jogoholding?18:16
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jogosdague: good point, about the at capacity part, not sure what you mean by holding18:17
sdaguefailure rates18:18
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jogosdague: ahh yeah, I agree18:22
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fungiclarkb: sunny days here at the moment == ~33c and no breeze18:34
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fungiso as tempting as the park idea is, i'll save it for cooler conditions18:35
clarkbfungi: wow. I should really keep quiet about how nice our weather here can be >_>18:35
clarkbthough we put up with drizzle for half the year to make up for it18:35
fungineedless to say, part of the reason i'm moving to the coast next week ;)18:36
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zaromgagne: i don't see a use case for perma link gerrit comments18:41
mgagnezaro: referring to them in email or blog post rants? :D18:42
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mgagnezaro: [citation needed]18:42
mgagnezaro: that's my use case =)18:42
clarkbyeah would be good18:42
fungimgagne: especially rants18:42
clarkbotherwise you have to say commetn from foo on $date18:42
mgagneclarkb: I looked for an HTML element id but couldn't find any =(18:43
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zaromgagne: did you try on gerrit-review.googlesource.com18:45
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mgagnezaro: haven't found much :-/18:47
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sdaguefungi / clarkb: what do you guys think of this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98815/ ?18:52
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fungisdague: i agree that we shouldn't set that in devstack-gate and let devstack decide what's sane18:53
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sdaguefungi: in this case it will go all the way back to the ceilometer defaults, which I think is appriopriate18:53
sdagueit will also mean a reduction of ceilometer polling by a factor of 4018:54
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fungisdague: git blame tells me https://review.openstack.org/78537 originally put it there (just a few months ago)18:54
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jogosdague:  unrelated but fun ceilometer patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98301/18:55
lifelessclarkb: if you have a second, I am confused about the error on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93253/18:55
fungisdague: to avoid timeouts on related tempest tests waiting for the interval to elapse18:55
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sdaguefungi: honestly, if the tests depend on a polling cycle, they are broken18:55
clarkbsdague: I am fine with it18:55
clarkboh is that why18:56
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fungiwas it for this abandoned test from around that timeframe, i wonder? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80965/3/tempest/api/telemetry/test_telemetry_pollster_api.py19:00
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fungiaha, nope. it's to support https://review.openstack.org/64136 and its children (not yet approved). see comments around march 6th19:05
fungisdague: you probably want to -1 those on these grounds19:05
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fungito at least give the ceilo devs a heads up19:06
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sdaguesure19:08
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fungisdague: and 98815 probably needs to be proposed as an actual revert of 78537 for better bookkeeping19:09
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clarkbfungi: ++ and thanks for the legwork19:10
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zzelle_hi everyone,19:10
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zzelle_it seems you healed the gate ?19:11
fungizzelle_: yes, through great feats of collaboration, many recent bugs have been squashed and things are now flowing a bit more smoothly again19:12
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: construct syslog debug level  https://review.openstack.org/9786319:12
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fungithough it's still a little twitchu19:12
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Kiallsdague: Heya - Designate exercises running correctly :) http://logs.openstack.org/88/98788/6/check/gate-designate-devstack-dsvm/98b5704/console.html19:12
zzelle_fungi, good job guys :)19:12
fungiKiall: congrats!19:12
sdagueKiall: cool. is there a topic to get through those reviews?19:13
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fungii think now we're just being crushed under the (relatively light) weight of all the changes nobody approved while things were bad19:13
sdagueclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/97863 is the os-loganalyze filter with tests19:13
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clarkbsdague: reviewing19:14
Kiallsdague: yes, but there all on the Designate side - The designate core folks are working through reviews of them now :) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/designate+branch:master+topic:devstack,n,z19:14
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sdagueclarkb: oh, I think I forgot the sample file19:20
clarkbsdague: ya was just looking at tests thinking there is no file here :)19:20
sdagueI'm working up a time link patch right now19:20
sdagueso as soon as I do that one, I'll rebase and get the test file in19:20
clarkbok19:21
lifelessclarkb: any thoughts?19:21
mriedemi'm probably late to the party, but is logstash kaput right now?19:21
clarkblifeless: sorry haven't looked at it yet19:22
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clarkblifeless: that change edits requirements and adds things that are not compatble with global requirements19:23
lifelessclarkb: but its teh global requirements update change, no ?19:24
clarkblifeless: http://logs.openstack.org/53/93253/7/check/gate-os-cloud-config-requirements/427e7e7/console.html#_2014-06-09_04_05_51_59419:24
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clarkblifeless: yes19:24
clarkblifeless: it is a bug where the requirements themselves are not gated in that way19:24
lifelessclarkb: so the global change is making changes that are not allowed per global.19:24
clarkblifeless: correct19:24
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lifelessclarkb: so what should we do ?19:24
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clarkbthere is an open bug somewhere and I thought yolanda was working on it. But basically fix global requirements19:25
clarkbthe sphinx update is an actual bug. pretty sure we don't want to do updates that way19:25
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clarkbbecause half your projects install one version. the other half install the other and they are at the mercy of pip dep resolution19:26
fungimriedem: logstash is backlogstash at the moment19:26
mriedemok19:26
fungimriedem: see the "logstash job queue" graph at the bottom of http://status.openstack.org/zuul/19:27
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openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: construct syslog debug level  https://review.openstack.org/9786319:29
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: support date linking in syslog  https://review.openstack.org/9886719:29
sdagueclarkb: that should have it19:29
pleia2looks like the chef folks would appreciate some eyes on this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98084/19:29
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lifelessclarkb: oh, what should the sphinx version look like ?19:36
clarkblifeless: we should increase bounds in overlapping manners19:36
clarkblifeless: global requirements didn't do this19:36
sdagueclarkb: I actually think the issue is global requirements did do it19:37
clarkblifeless: iirc there was a bug in 1.2.X. so we probably need >=1.something,!1.2.X,<1.3.X19:37
clarkbsdague: they weren't overlapping19:37
sdagueI believe there was a misunderstanding with the implementation of the overlapping requirements enforcement19:37
clarkbsdague: there definitely is19:38
sdagueso it doesn't run on gr19:38
clarkbsdague: but global reqs is at fault for this particular issue19:38
clarkbit is a real bug19:38
clarkbsdague: correct19:38
sdagueok, but the non overlapping issue was mostly to handle our mirrors19:38
sdagueso that's just done and in the past now19:38
clarkbsdague: no that isn't why19:39
sdaguewell that's why I wanted to put it in :)19:39
clarkbsdague: overlapping is required to make devstack work19:39
clarkbotherwise what happens is you install everything and end up with pip installing version X but half your projects need version Y and refuse to work19:39
sdagueoh, so this is a different issue19:39
clarkbwithout overlapping requirements there is no way to move the entire project to the new stuff19:40
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sdagueok, fair19:42
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phschwartzanteaya: fungi: if you could be so kind as looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93953/ now. It should be ready for review.19:51
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Removed PostGres from code and documentation  https://review.openstack.org/9887019:52
openstackgerritSean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Revert "Set CEILOMETER_PIPELINE_INTERVAL to 15"  https://review.openstack.org/9887119:52
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clarkbsdague: well I was going to wait for the os log analyze change to go through jenkins before approving, but it has to pass those tests anyways +2 +A from me19:55
sdagueclarkb: sounds good19:55
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anteayaphschwartz: *nod, working on a few other things atm, I'm not ignoring you though19:55
sdagueyeh, it looks like it's about an hour to allocate nodes in check right now19:55
sdagueclarkb: I also think that's part of the logstash backup, our throughput on jobs is much higher given the greater number of jobs per patch19:56
sdagueand the check queue is up to 16719:57
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bknudsonlifeless: 1326504 is the bug for requirements overlap checking20:03
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devanandasdague: given J1 coming in a few days and that ironic was totaly blocked for the last week, I'd like to try landing a bunch of ironic patches in the next 72 hrs20:04
devanandasdague: does that seem feasible // reasonable?20:04
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lifelessclarkb: bknudson: ok so I'm still confused; do I a) do nothing and it will fix itself eventually; b) propose some change to global-requirements to unblock stuff; c) run around in a panic; d) ???20:06
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fungilifeless: i think the proposed revert of the original (incorrect) job needs to get some visibility so reqs proposals work again20:07
Kiallfungi / lifeless .. you convince people to +2/+A this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97893/ ;)20:07
lifelessgive me commit access :P20:08
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lifelessok so that needs clarkb or jeblair or mordred or SergeyLukjanov or jhesketh  :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97893/ <- requirements jobs are near-universally failing right now.20:08
fungiyup. anybody with a requirement or test req on sphinx can't update their reqs20:12
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phschwartzanteaya: ty, not in a rush. Just letting you guys know I got the check gate to pass for it.20:17
anteayaphschwartz: cool, thanks a good first step20:17
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phschwartzfungi: I will clean that up. Vim hates me and has stopped showing trailing white space :(20:23
fungiphschwartz: you should give it a talking to20:24
phschwartzfungi: I am about to slap it around a bit and rewrite my .vimrc it is pissing me off enough20:24
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phschwartzfungi: as to the non-voting on the pecan gate tests. I agree. Just need to figure out the correct place to make it non-voting.20:27
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openstackgerritPhilip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creation of vinz project in the openstack-infra scheme.  https://review.openstack.org/9395320:30
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fungiphschwartz: where you set the unused vinz-python33 job non-voting which you didn't need (because you're not configured to run it) instead add the job name there. then leave the job in the check pipeline but remove it from the gate pipeline (nobody looks at non-voting job results after a change has merged, so they're just wasted resources there)20:33
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fungiphschwartz: that would have the effect of running the cross-test script for vinz non-voting on new changes proposed to pecan (but get an okay from one of the pecan ptls first too)20:34
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openstackgerritPhilip Marc Schwartz proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Creation of vinz project in the openstack-infra scheme.  https://review.openstack.org/9395320:35
phschwartzthat fixes it then, forgot to remove it from the gate. :(20:35
phschwartznot my day20:35
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix collection of *.failure files  https://review.openstack.org/9888520:43
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Update apt cache before installing UCA keyring  https://review.openstack.org/9888620:44
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mriedemfungi: clarkb: mordred: can we move this so we can debug some grenade failures that started showing up last week? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98885/20:45
openstackgerritAndrew Melton proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add idmapshift for Nova  https://review.openstack.org/9888820:46
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openstackgerritAndrew Melton proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add idmapshift for Nova  https://review.openstack.org/9888820:47
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: construct syslog debug level  https://review.openstack.org/9786320:48
fungimriedem: it'll be about 1.5 hours before that starts running check jobs though, so no actual way to observe the fix... but given the current backlog and need to press forward on the stability front i'm okay approving it blind20:48
fungiit at least looks correct and is quite trivial, so i'm not inclined to spend time testing it myself20:48
mtreinishfungi: and we know what's currently in tree doesn't work either :)20:49
mriedemfungi: sure. given how many times i've seen grenade fail with no services started since last week, it might even test itself20:49
mtreinishso it's not like it'll be worse20:49
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fungimriedem: all's the better20:49
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fungii'll let sdague approve and then i'm okay enqueuing+promoting it if we're worried we won't be able to iterate on it fast enough20:50
fungithough i need to start cooking dinner soonish20:51
fungiso will try to keep one eye on irc20:51
lifelessdhellmann: spec updated20:52
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lifelessdhellmann: I note that oslo-specs isn't advertised on IRC?20:53
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sdaguemriedem: +A20:56
sdaguefungi: I'd also say that one is fair to promote, because it should help expose20:57
mriedemsdague: thanks20:57
clarkbaroo? sorry was eating lunch20:58
dhellmannlifeless: I think the bot config is there, but there was an issue with the bot dying last week. I don't know the current state.20:58
sdagueso that ssh (possibly floating ip) failure is still there20:59
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sdaguejust had something get bombed on it21:00
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lifelessdhellmann: ack21:01
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clarkbmordred: are you still around? the unbound stuff is not really working the way I expect it to with your latest stack21:09
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mordredclarkb: sup?21:10
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clarkbmordred: I don't see where in the dib stuff you set install_resolv_conf to false21:10
clarkbmordred: and unbound updating my resolv.conf is failing dib builds21:11
clarkbmordred: was it just removed in a rebase somewhere?21:11
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clarkbmordred: I think I can just hardcode install_resolv_conf => false in prepare-node21:11
mordredclarkb: hrm. it's entirely possible it got borked ina  rebase21:11
mordredclarkb: ++21:11
clarkbok wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something21:12
mordredclarkb: did the database grants patch look ok to your brain?21:13
Shrewsdevananda: sdague: https://review.openstack.org/98201 finally passed testing. Would love to see you guys review that so we can push it through and avoid the ironic mess again.21:13
clarkbmordred: mostly. But it doesn't quite work. The mysql service breaks in dib21:13
clarkbmordred: also the slave_db.pp has requires on things that won't exist if you instantiate that file directly21:13
clarkbmordred: I am working towards testing and cleaning it up but have hit the unbound thing :) hope to have concrete useful feedback soon21:14
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mordredclarkb: spectacular21:14
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clarkbmordred: though I am beginning to consider encoding all of the initial state setup in dib directly.21:15
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clarkbmordred: so have puppet install and configure mysql. Then dib in post-install.d can add users, edit perms, and add schemas21:15
mordredclarkb: I have also considered that21:15
mordredclarkb: I think the "make sure it's encoded in two different places" thing is the really hard part21:16
clarkbin this case we won't have to manage a split brain if we get all slaves on dib21:16
mordred++21:16
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mordredI mean, we'll have a split brain just for a transition period - but yes21:16
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clarkbright21:16
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clarkbbut I need to see how clunky this is with the puppet before I recommend ^21:17
mordredclarkb: basically, we can just have puppet do openstack_project::template and then rewrite the slave config in dib, yeah?21:17
mordredclarkb: ++21:17
clarkbmordred: no I don't want to rewrite the whole slave config yet :)21:17
mordred:)21:17
clarkbpuppet is really good at installing things21:17
clarkbI think I want it to install mysql and postgres too21:17
mordredoh - I read what you said properly21:18
mordredclarkb: so, keep the split in the db patch - but just remove the slave_db.pp and rewrite _that_ in dib21:18
clarkbyup21:18
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clarkbmordred: mostly because figuring out various config options and which package to install across distros and so on is in puppet and working and working well21:20
clarkbmordred: once we have that writing a make DB script is easy21:20
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clarkbmordred: looks like you can't set mysql root password if the service is off...21:23
clarkbmordred: I think we can get away with that21:24
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clarkbmordred: oh and I am going to push a change to go back to if in_config == 'true' because facter gives us a string not a boolean21:27
clarkbmordred: so setting that to 'false' in facter will still evaluate to true in puppet without the string comparison21:28
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for Ironic bug 1328274  https://review.openstack.org/9890521:32
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1328274 in ironic "devstack jobs failing due to n-cpu issues updating resources from conductor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132827421:32
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openstackgerritElizabeth K. Joseph proposed a change to openstack-infra/publications: Add instructions for using template  https://review.openstack.org/9890621:34
pleia2(officially not explaining that again :))21:35
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openstackgerritAndrew Melton proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add idmapshift for Nova  https://review.openstack.org/9888821:41
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mordredpleia2: did yuo see my latest crack? https://review.openstack.org/9867021:41
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pleia2mordred: yeah, I actually just mentioned that in an hp email "but our template is still slidy right now" ;)21:43
mordredpleia2: I haven't figured out how to hook the zuul demo into the reveal slide advancement thing21:43
mordredpleia2: but something tells me someone like krotscheck could figure it out in like 4 seconds21:44
pleia2mordred: ah yeah, web people do magic21:44
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mordredpleia2: I particularly like the vertical slide serieses - they make for a fun organization and an easy way to have drill-down slides or to just show an overview slide21:44
pleia2I'm also working on updating some of the screenshots in the overview, new gerrit and zuul page is really old21:44
mordred++21:45
anteayaI'm following pleia2's advice, you change too fast mordred21:45
anteayadon't get me wrong you are very entertaining21:45
anteayabut too mecurial for me to tie a horse to21:45
mordredpleia2: well, we should maybe land the first patch of mine from the overview branch21:45
mordredpleia2: I did several updates in there21:45
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pleia2mordred: or do the template branch first?21:46
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Setup a private gerrit instance for security reviews  https://review.openstack.org/4793721:46
mordredpleia2: either way - just calling out that we've potentially got some fun merging coming up21:46
pleia2mordred: yeah21:46
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clarkbmordred: mv: cannot create hard link `/tmp/image.2l9ceN8b/mnt/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/pg_stat_tmp/pgstat.stat' to `/tmp/image.2l9ceN8b/mnt/lib/modules/3.2.0-64-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia': Operation not permitted21:48
clarkbmordred: I have no idea why that is happening but I got puppet to run without creating any of the dbs and users21:48
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clarkbmordred: but no image due to ^21:48
clarkbthis is troubling for a few reasons. first we don't need nvidia drivers so o_O. second why is it hardlinking those two things together? Is this something you have seen before?21:49
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mordredI have not seen that21:50
mordredlifeless: ^^ why does postgres want nvidia?21:50
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fungiuh woa21:55
lifelessmordred: wait what21:55
lifelessmordred: thats very very very very very wrong21:55
fungihardlink pgstat.stat to the nvidia lkm driver directory?21:55
clarkbya21:55
clarkbI have no idea why that happened. running again to see if it is reproduceable21:55
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* fungi picked the wrong time to look at irc with food in mouth21:56
clarkbdib did correctly fail so not worried about weirdness getting onto slaves. just trying to build images21:56
fungithis almost looks like some sort of subtle backdoor hack21:57
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fungi"grant the postgres daemon the ability to write kernel drivers"21:57
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Setup a private gerrit instance for security reviews  https://review.openstack.org/4793721:57
fungimore likely inodes got screwed up in the filesystem table21:58
fungibut still a little scary21:58
clarkbhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/83452/21:58
clarkbnext run just ran into sha256sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match21:58
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clarkbso ya I think I may have fs corruption21:58
* clarkb tries again21:59
mordredlifeless: your tool is breaking clarkb's filesystem21:59
clarkbhrm that is consistent now21:59
clarkbtime to clear cache21:59
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clarkbrm'ing things in cache got beyond the hash check22:00
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* fungi is now less frightened22:00
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lifelessmordred: yeah no.22:05
ianwfungi: looks like it's some gpu accelerated db thing -> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PGStrom?22:06
ianwfungi: agree, first thought was "rootkit" :)22:06
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clarkboh neat except hrm22:07
ianwoh, fs corruption is even more likely22:08
clarkbianw: yeah it may be fs corruption22:08
ianwthere's no other references to such a thing i can find22:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix collection of *.failure files  https://review.openstack.org/9888522:08
clarkbthe current run is puppeting now should get a good idea of whether or not this is consistent from that22:09
clarkbI am going to start putting my patches up into gerrit so that someone else can try to independently test as well22:09
clarkbmordred: ^22:09
fungiianw: any sufficiently advanced rootkit is indistinguishable from random filesystem corruption (apologies to arthur c. clarke)22:09
mordredclarkb: awesome22:09
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jogofungi: http://logs.openstack.org/98/97598/1/check/check-grenade-dsvm-partial-ncpu/2125f27/console.html#_2014-06-09_19_16_59_23122:11
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sdagueclarkb: do you have to tell the logstash workers which files have INFO filters on them?22:14
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clarkbsdague: no, it applies the filter to everything22:16
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sdaguecool22:17
sdagueclarkb: this would be a nice land as well - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98867/22:18
fungijogo: "Raised if a server responds with a HTTP status code that we don’t understand"22:18
fungijogo: i'll check the apache error logs22:18
sdaguethen we'd have linking in syslogs22:18
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint fur bug 1268725  https://review.openstack.org/9891322:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1268725 in openstack-ci "ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='pypi.openstack.org', port=80): Max retries exceeded" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126872522:19
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jogofungi: looks like you filed a bug for that a while back22:19
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Split the database grants into their own class  https://review.openstack.org/9858622:21
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool  https://review.openstack.org/8847922:21
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add additional node types to dib elements  https://review.openstack.org/9056522:21
clarkbmordred: ^ those are the changes I am currently working iwth22:21
clarkbassuming I actually applied the diffs properly22:21
clarkbmordred: note the changes to not manage mysql service, not set root db passwords, rename node-bare to node-thick, and check in_chroot as a string not boolean value22:22
clarkbmordred: oh and set the don't install resolv conf flag22:22
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fungijogo: hm... so i find absolutely no reference to that get in the error log/22:23
clarkbI need to pop out shortly to pick up new glasses \o/22:23
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clarkbwaiting for current dib run to do its thing before I disappear though22:23
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clarkbwoot it is qemu image converting now22:25
clarkbmordred: can you grab those changes and dib node-think instead of node-devstack?22:25
jogofungi: perahps a network issue22:25
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clarkbmordred: and independently verify this mostly works22:26
fungijogo: no mention of it in the access log either. i suspect hpcloud might put a layer 7 proxy in front of http requests... anybody knowing internals of hpcloud confirm?22:26
clarkbfungi: pretty sure there is fancy load balancer there22:26
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mordredclarkb: I can - but I'm about to run out the door to a doctor's appointment22:26
clarkbmordred: no rush then22:26
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anteayamordred: be well22:27
fungii can't imaging a "network problem" causing a slave in hpcloud to get an "unrecognized http status code" from a server in rackspace because of a "network issue"22:27
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fungier, splicing sentences in my brain again22:27
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fungiand typing horribly22:27
fungii should just officially start my evening22:27
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mordredanteaya: regular stuff- nothing big22:29
anteayaglad to hear it22:29
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Setup a private gerrit instance for security reviews  https://review.openstack.org/4793722:36
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fungizaro: awesome! i need to find time to look at that ^ between meetings tomorrow22:38
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sdagueclarkb: any update on getting some more logstash workers cranking?22:59
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mattoliverauMorning everyone!22:59
clarkbsdague none sorry. I am afk now to get glasses23:02
clarkbI can start spinning up nodes later this evening23:03
sdagueok, the other thing, before I call it a night, the gerrit reset votes on commit change?23:04
sdagueis that something there is a review for already?23:04
clarkbI have no idea where that is23:04
sdagueI'm definitely getting massively broken by the current behavior23:04
clarkbother people were working it I think23:04
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sdagueok, I'll poke in the morning23:04
clarkbfungi ^ was that you?23:05
clarkbiirc it required manual acl update23:05
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove duplicate query for 1326820  https://review.openstack.org/9891923:13
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fungiclarkb: sdague: oh, it requires a push of an all-projects config (acl) update and then hopefully not a restart23:19
fungii was hoping zaro would weigh in when i was asking about it last week in case there's something i'm missing to adjust it in the webui23:20
fungibut for whatever reason it looks like those options may only be switchable by setting them in the acl file directly, and not at all implemented as a setting in the web interface23:21
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zaromissed that fungi.  but i think changes to all-projects config does not require gerrit restart.23:25
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fungizaro: that's a plus at least. any feeling for why the switches to control resetting votes on rebases or commit message changes aren't exposed in the webui for editing the all-projects acl?23:26
zarofungi: i have no idea.  some things are exposed while others can only be done by pushing all-projects.config  i think labels is another thing that can only be configured in project config files.23:27
jogodo we have any way of tracking how many gate jobs get invalidated?23:28
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jheskethMorning23:30
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fungizaro: okay, cool. just making sure that was reasonable/normal23:31
fungijogo: #define "invalidated"23:31
jogofungi: thrown out23:32
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jogoas I have a hunch we are throwing out more then usual now, which is why we we are using all the cloud23:32
fungiaborted/cancelled because of a new patchset upload or gate reset ahead of them prior to completing the job?23:32
jogogate reset23:32
fungiwe might have graphite counts on started and success/failure, which could yield a difference... nothing cooked though afaik23:33
jogoahh thanks23:35
jogoin other news ceilometer unit tests fail 16% of the time in the gate23:35
fungithat's an entirely unsurprising statistic considering what i've seen of them in the gate23:36
devanandahi! i'm seeing many *-tempest-dsvm*ironic* tests failing due to what seem to me to be network failures23:37
devanandais this a known issue right now?23:37
jogoohhh that goes to 18% in a week23:37
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zarojhesketh: hey.23:40
jheskethHello zaro!23:41
anteayamorning jhesketh23:41
jheskethMorning anteaya23:41
zarojhesketh: unfortunately i don't think breaking up jjb is gonna work for hipster use case.23:42
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jheskethhmm, interesting, why's that zaro?23:43
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zarojhesketh: jjb is designed to inject xml into it's data structure.  All of the jjb modules (like publisher, wrapper, reporters, etc..) create xml directly.  it's never stored in any other data structure.23:44
jheskethyeah, that was the challenge I faced when I looked at it.. that's why I worked around it by converting xml to dict23:45
jheskethhowever jeblair thought it was possible, so I'd like to get his thoughts23:45
anteayamorning mattoliverau, I am reading backwards23:45
mattoliverauanteaya: lol, morning. Have a good weekend?23:45
zarojhesketh: hmm, i'm not seeing an easy way to do it without rewritting all of those modules.23:46
jheskethzaro: is it possible to expand all of the templates/groups/projects etc into individual jobs before passing off to the modules?23:46
anteayamattoliverau: I did actually23:47
anteayamattoliverau: saw a cow and calf moose and stared a long time at a wolf23:47
anteayawe looked at each other for like 5 minutes before the wolf moved off and I saw its tail23:48
zarojhesketh: it doesn't seem like it to me because the modules are the thing that are creating the jobs.23:48
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove duplicate query for 1326820 and 1326855  https://review.openstack.org/9891923:48
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jheskethzaro: hmm... might need to consider a large refactor23:50
jheskethor something new in TH that just interprets the files correctly23:50
adam_ghas anything changed to image builds recently that would cause this to pop up on HP slaves but not RAX? https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132675423:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1326754 in tripleo "Ubuntu CI failures  : Unable to locate package ubuntu-cloud-keyring" [High,In progress]23:51
fungiadam_g: we use the sources lists provided on the base images, which aren't created by ubuntu but rather by the providers. my guess would be that hp does not add it to their images but rax does23:53
fungiadam_g: actually, i think the images we're using in hpcloud are actual ubuntu-provided images now (as of about a month ago), but that rax still rolls their own23:53
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fungiadam_g: we do a lot of fiddling already to deal with the differences between base images in various providers. hopefully now that we can start using glance in hp and rax that will subside soon23:55
adam_gfungi, yeah.. the package is on the mirrors referenced by the HP nodes. i wonder if the HP nodes are coming up with a completely cold apt cache.23:55
zarojhesketh: i think it would need to be large refactor.  it would require making generic parts of jjb (templates, jobs, project, macros etc..) agnostic to the data structure used in derived tools so that jenkins part can use xml and hipster part can use dict.23:56
fungiadam_g: oh, possible... though devstack should retry to apt-get update of an apt-get install fails23:56
fungis/of/if/23:56
adam_gfungi, the errors happening outside of devstack itself.23:56
adam_ghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/98886/ should help if that is the issue23:57
mattoliverauanteaya: wow!23:57
fungiadam_g: oh, looking23:57

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