Friday, 2014-07-04

clarkbjhesketh: you need to import traceback00:00
clarkboh wait there it is00:00
clarkbI am blind00:00
clarkb:(00:00
jheskethclarkb: wasn't sure if it was worth importing for the whole thing00:00
clarkbya its probably fine there00:00
jheskethgiven that there's a lot of static requests00:01
jheskethhopefully the gc gets it00:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Capture apache configuration files  https://review.openstack.org/10274500:12
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anteayamorganfainberg: thank you00:28
anteayaI'm betting dhellmann is gone for the weekend00:28
anteayaI'll try again next week00:28
openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add in rewrite rule to check swift  https://review.openstack.org/10472300:28
jheskethclarkb: ^ what do you think about that approach00:28
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anteayajhesketh: s/incase/in case?00:30
jheskethyeah00:34
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ianwclarkb: question on partitions in images for d-i-b ... do you know anything about that?01:05
clarkbI don't01:07
clarkbbut I think we go with one big partition01:07
clarkbthen at bound we mount the ephemeral drive as swap and /opt01:08
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lifelessdib can either buidl a single partition or a disk image, see the vm element for how the code to do the full disk is done01:08
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clarkbs/bound/boot/01:08
anteayaI'm turning in01:10
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anteayaenjoy 4th of July everyone who celebrates01:10
anteayaI'll do my best in channel tomorrow01:10
ianwlifeless / clarkb : ok, so we want for openstack-infra single partition?01:18
clarkbianw: we want a disk image eg qcow2 with a single partition01:18
ianwclarkb: ok, got it.  having a few issues with the bootloader for centos images, but it's getting there01:20
clarkbdamnit gmail01:22
clarkbexcessive bounces01:22
clarkbarg01:22
clarkbclearly this is the thing that will get me to use sup01:22
adalbasanteaya, it didnt work changing that option. There is some issue updating setuptools. I'll need more time investigating that, but i ll be out tomorrow.01:23
adalbasthat will go to the weekend :)01:23
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jeblairlifeless: would you mind not stacking your changes together?  i'm not going to merge the openstack-specific changes (i'm fine leaving them outstanding in gerrit so that you can share them with people who would like to cherry-pick them, until the infrastructure is in place to implement a complete solution)01:31
jeblairlifeless: but it might be nice to merge the other ones01:32
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jeblairlifeless: and nice going on the gitpython patch; it's good to see the project isn't abandoned (i was starting to wonder)01:34
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mordredjeblair: he landed a gitpython patch?01:35
jeblairmordred: yeah, they apparently have a 0.3 branch with some development happening on it01:36
mordredneat!01:36
mordredthat's so much better than them not having that01:36
mattoliverauanteaya: good night :)01:38
jeblairdevananda: in case no one has given you the spiel -- gertty isn't ready for full-time use yet.  i haven't released it or even announced it.  it's under heavy development and may change drastically at any time in possibly backwards-incompatible ways.  :)01:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Formatting the json for readability  https://review.openstack.org/10461201:42
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mordredok. landing the ansible puppet change and babysitting03:19
pleia2\o/03:19
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mordredpleia2: or, maybe I'll rebase first03:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Notify in IRC when puppet run fails  https://review.openstack.org/9651903:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use ansible instead of direct ssh calls  https://review.openstack.org/8782103:25
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add playbook for cleaning workspaces  https://review.openstack.org/9664603:25
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mordredoh! new error ...03:48
* mordred will no longer land tis now03:48
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morganfainberganteaya, yep yep :)03:59
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morganfainbergmordred, aww. new errors ftl04:00
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jesusaurusoh cool, the precise apply test is voting now05:09
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tchaypois it just me or does the new change screen not show dependencies?05:17
tchaypoor maybe that "related changes" thingy on the top right is a carefully-disguised dependencies list?05:17
tchaypoeven if it is, the new screen seems to lack a "rebase" button05:18
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lifelessjeblair: I'll happily put the ones you want to merge at the bottom of the stack; if there are other ones you want split out please let me know and when I get a few minutes I'll see about that05:45
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mattoliverauI'm calling it a day, night all, have a great weekend, especially to all the Americans who get to have a long one :)06:43
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YorikSarAre there any infra-cores awake here?06:46
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YorikSarAh, I see the date.06:47
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lifelessjeblair: so I think we should create local refs in the gertty git repos06:54
lifelessjeblair: otherwise git-gc --auto will delete commits older than 2 weeks06:54
lifelessjeblair: and git will trigger that itself automatically from time to time. If we create local refs we can control this (delete the refs when the review is merged or abandoned, for instance)06:55
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tchaypoSo the new elastic-rechecks page - does it look at logs from the experimental triple0 jobs?06:57
tchaypoi cant see any of the bugs I keep hitting, so I don't know what to do now except "recheck no bug" all the things, which doesn't seem like a useful thing to be doing06:58
lifelessso don't do that07:02
lifelesselastic recheck only knows about bugs registered with it07:02
lifelessif you see someting fail, and e-r doesn't have it, file a new bug (if needed) and add a pattern to e-r (if missing)07:02
lifelessthen reheck bug07:02
lifeless#07:02
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tchaypoI can't tell if e-r has it07:11
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lifelesstchaypo: look in it's patterns list in the repo07:16
lifelessjerryz: pushed up a gertty fix to prevent gc's :)07:16
lifelessbah07:16
lifelessjeblair: pushed up a gertty fix to prevent gc's :)07:17
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lifelessdevananda: clarkb: I've gotten to the bottom of 'very high sync counts'07:34
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lifelessdevananda: clarkb: its missing - due to git gc - revisions being redownloaded. One count for each revision, so something that hits .../36 might have up to 36 missing revisions07:34
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EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104244/07:48
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SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, aprvd07:52
EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: awesome ! thanks :-)07:52
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, np07:52
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lifelessclarkb: devananda: myu fix for that is up in gerrit, and its -waaay- faster :)07:56
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EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: do you know how many time it takes to have the repo in github/stackforge?08:18
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, it could take up to an hour after merged state08:20
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, if everything will be ok ;)08:20
EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: makes sense08:20
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EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: it's done, cool08:26
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, great08:26
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EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: funny fact though, I'm not core in the module (i'm part of puppet-core)08:38
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markmcSergeyLukjanov, you can delete branches from gerrit repos, I assume ?08:39
markmc$ git push gerrit :heads/refs/publish/bp/oslo-messaging-greenio-executor08:39
markmcremote: Branch refs/heads/heads/refs/publish/bp/oslo-messaging-greenio-executor:08:39
markmcremote: You need 'Push' rights with the 'Force Push'08:39
SergeyLukjanovs markmc, sure08:39
* markmc is an idiot08:40
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SergeyLukjanovmarkmc, "sure" was about >> [10:39:43]  <markmc> SergeyLukjanov, you can delete branches from gerrit repos, I assume ?08:40
markmcSergeyLukjanov, could you delete the heads/refs/publish/bp/oslo-messaging-greenio-executor from oslo-specs :)08:40
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SergeyLukjanovmarkmc, done08:43
markmcSergeyLukjanov, w00t :)08:43
SergeyLukjanovmarkmc, sleepy weather here08:44
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Migrate superusers to a team  https://review.openstack.org/10479909:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/python-jenkins: Fix `tox -e doc` duplicate id error  https://review.openstack.org/10461509:47
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add various translation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/9823809:48
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add various translation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/9823810:04
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Merger: support for finding branches in remote  https://review.openstack.org/9216111:12
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EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: I've got this strange issue where gerrit did not put right permissions for puppet-trove module, and looking at http://puppetdb.openstack.org/node/review.openstack.org I can see puppet ran well, any thoughts?11:25
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, yup, it looks strange11:26
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/stackforge/puppet-trove,access11:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Remove obsolete #openstack-climate channel  https://review.openstack.org/9491311:30
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EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: weird, it should be part of puppet-core team11:35
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SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, yeah, sounds like an issue during running manage-projects12:02
SergeyLukjanovEmilienM, /me trying to remember where the it writes logs12:02
EmilienMSergeyLukjanov: yeah, puppet logs would be useful to see if there is any change12:03
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openstackgerritafazekas proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add f20 experimental job to tempest  https://review.openstack.org/10487812:14
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Add accessor for Repo._initialized  https://review.openstack.org/9748712:23
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: cloner to easily clone dependent repositories  https://review.openstack.org/7037312:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/reviewstats: Updating Horizon core with recent changes  https://review.openstack.org/10435312:25
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, where can I find logs for manage-projects? (creation of puppet-trove projects failed with no acl set)12:27
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fungiSergeyLukjanov: possibly in the syslog, or on ci-puppetmaster. rerunning it on just that project, it's complaining that the groups file doesn't exist... http://paste.openstack.org/show/85483/12:48
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fungiyeah, there's apparently quite a few new projects for which it failed to create a groups file according to the syslog on review.o.o, and lots more where it's failing to load the acl12:58
SergeyLukjanovfungi, ok, thanks12:58
SergeyLukjanovfungi, oh12:58
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fungithe list of projects is http://paste.openstack.org/show/85485/13:03
fungicorresponding failures in the gerrit error log look like http://paste.openstack.org/show/85486/13:06
SergeyLukjanovhm13:06
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SergeyLukjanovfungi, it sounds like we're really trying to push incorrect config13:07
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fungiSergeyLukjanov: possibly, but it would help to figure what about those subset of projects is causing it to complain13:07
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izinovikhello13:14
izinovikdoes `nova-network' service uses mysql database to store its data?13:15
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: cloner to easily clone dependent repositories  https://review.openstack.org/7037313:18
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anteayao/13:20
anteayaizinovik: I don't know, have you tried #openstack-nova?13:20
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hasharfungi: the poor git-review install would fail if one is missing pbr :-/13:34
hasharpkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: git-review13:34
hasharaise DistributionNotFound(req)  # XXX put more info here13:34
hasharfungi: that is a known problem. IIRC there is a bug filled for it against either pip or pbr.13:34
ttxUpdated Branch model at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Branch_Model -- yay13:39
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anteayayay13:42
anteayaI saw you were busy fixing all the wikis13:42
hasharyou should install the WikiLove extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiLove13:42
hasharthat lets user give kitten and barnstars on a user talk page to cheer them up13:43
hasharheck you can even send beers! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Hashar13:43
ttxanteaya: always funny how fast that can get out of date :)13:43
anteayattx would you like me to point out what I think is a minor grammar fix, or shall I fix in place?13:44
anteayattx yes13:44
ttxfix in place please13:44
anteayakk13:44
* ttx hopes he didn't abused masculines this time13:44
hasharttx: the diagram is neat ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/File:Branchmodel.png )13:44
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ttxhope so :) took me a bit of time13:45
hasharttx: MediaWiki has support for SVG , that would give the ability to fork / enhance the graph13:46
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ttxhashar: yeah, I got lazy when I exported13:48
anteayattx no no gender pronoun changes needed :D13:49
anteayajust verb tense things13:49
ttxanteaya: I'm getting better at this :)13:49
anteayayou are13:49
anteayaI wouldn't never know this if I didn't grow up with it13:49
anteayamy mom had the best grammar and vocabulary13:49
anteayavocabularly13:50
ttxhrm, i'm not sure "Reddit Gardening" really should have favved my "Wiki gardening" tweet13:50
anteayaneither of my parents could spell though, they decided not to tell us kids in hopes we would be able to spell13:50
anteayathat didn't work13:50
anteayathe reddits are all over the twitter13:50
anteayanot sure what the push is13:51
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add various translation jobs  https://review.openstack.org/9823813:52
anteayaI love how Zuul is friendly in your wiki13:52
anteaya:D13:52
fungihashar: yeah, i thought the latest pbr was supposed to have fixed that (or maybe it has to do with too-old pip?)13:56
hasharmaybe :-(13:56
fungihashar: which pip --version do you have?13:57
hasharoh it is a coworker having the issue. asking him13:58
hasharpip 1.0 works for me hehe13:59
fungihashar: could be something about setuptools not pulling in pbr from the setup_requires in setup.py14:00
fungimordred: ^ is that failure mode familiar to you? (assuming you're around?)14:00
fungiSergeyLukjanov: i have a hunch as to why a lot of those acls are failing to apply. i should be able to prove my theory here shortly and push up a fix if it turns out to be correct14:01
anteayattx so I need to populate: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html mind if I steal directly from the ptl guide?14:01
ttxanteaya: sure do, it should be mostly up to date now14:01
anteayathank you14:01
fungibut first i need coffee. 150kph winds will really keep you awake at night14:02
anteayafungi: wow14:02
anteayamuch damage so far?14:02
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hasharfungi: we have hit it in JJB previously. Monty is aware of it and commented on https://bitbucket.org/pypa/setuptools/issue/209/setup_requires-and-install_requires-dont14:03
hasharfungi: patch is pending :] \O/14:04
anteayattx making tweaks to the ptl page, revert them if you want to14:06
ttxanteaya: for my defense, this "he" was there before :)14:07
fungianteaya: well, i cancelled my plans to have lunch at this brewery http://wwwcache.wral.com/asset/news/local/2014/07/04/13787290/manteo1-646x485.jpg14:07
anteayattx  I understand, it is gone now14:08
openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add XStatic-* projects with packaged static files for Horizon  https://review.openstack.org/9571614:08
anteayafungi: yeah, well I think you made a good call there14:08
anteayafungi: another day might be better14:08
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add xstatic-packaged JavaScript libraries for Horizon  https://review.openstack.org/9779314:09
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s0neaanteaya, we set up our system (jenkins master and jenkins slave) and i assumed that the next step is to run the dsvm-tempest-full tests. is that right?14:11
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joaahh.. I need to finish that too :x well, will be for next week I guess.14:12
anteayauh, not yet14:12
anteayas0nea: start out by tracking just the openstack-dev/sandbox repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/sandbox/14:13
anteayayou will need to clone that repo and offer a patch to trigger your system14:13
anteayaplease limit yourself to only 2 or 3 patchsets14:13
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anteayayou can offer many patches to a patchset14:14
anteayawe have found some folks testing their ci systems offer more than 50 different patchsets, please don't do that14:14
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anteayaon the sandbox repo we can see your commit message and tests your log url14:15
anteayaas well as see how your logs are formatted and ensure they are browsable and have utc timestamps14:15
anteayawhich are all requirements14:15
anteayas0nea: does that make sense?14:15
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anteayas0nea: and yes you can run the tempest-full tests, but start out by running them on the sandbox repo only14:21
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s0neaanteaya, yes, ok... and you need the log url to have a look in our jenkins console output? - so our jenkins master requires a public ip address?14:22
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openstackgerritNikita Konovalov proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Migrate superusers to a team  https://review.openstack.org/10479914:26
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s0neaanteaya, i just want to test our environment... to see if all is configured well. does it make sense just to click on the run dsvm-tempest-full button when check and gate are set to noop-check-communication in the zuul/layout.yaml file?14:31
anteayas0nea: no, we don't need to access your jenkins master14:33
anteayas0nea: we need a link to the logs14:33
anteayalook at the last comment from jenkins on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101361/14:34
anteayamany links to logs14:34
anteayas0nea: see this neutron patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102465/14:35
anteayalook at the comment from jenkins14:36
anteayahere is tempest-dsvm-neutron-full job logs: http://logs.openstack.org/65/102465/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/670aeea/14:36
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anteayas0nea: this is what the devs are used to seeing, the closer you can match that format and browsing experience, the happier the devs are14:37
s0neaanteaya, and the dsvm-tempest-full job does the upload automatically?14:40
anteayaI don't know14:40
anteayakeep in mind I have never set up this system myself14:40
anteayaI just try to keep all the people talking to each other and attempt to make as many people happy as I can14:41
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anteayaI often fail, but I do try14:41
anteayaI haven't had time to try to do this for myself14:41
anteayawhich is why the third party meetings are so important14:41
anteayayou can ask questions like this at the meeting and get a response from people who know the answer14:41
anteayaI don't know the answer14:42
anteayaand hopefully after meeting some of these people, you continute to talk to them and learn14:42
anteayaand one day, hopefully you will help someone else14:42
anteayathat's the goal14:42
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s0neaok, that also helps me a  lot :)14:42
anteayas0nea: great14:43
anteayaI'm glad to hear that14:43
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Refactor clonemapper internal structure  https://review.openstack.org/10491014:43
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s0neaanteaya, ok, so thank you for your time. i will join the meeting next monday14:45
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anteayas0nea: great, feel free to add an item to the agenda to make sure you have a chance to ask your question14:48
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s0neayes14:52
anteayagreat14:57
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yolandahi, anyone familiar with error "ImportError: No module named DataSourceNone" when booting nodepool instances?14:59
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yolandafungi, jeblair, mordred ^15:02
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anteayattx if I am on this page: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron?searchtext=juno15:03
anteayattx how do I find the page that identifies which bps are targetting for a specific milestone?15:03
anteayahi yolanda15:03
anteayaI don't know the answer to your question15:03
anteaya:(15:03
yolandahi anteaya15:03
yolandahaving that problem booting a devstack-node on hpcloud15:03
anteayareally?15:04
anteayajust regular devstack?15:04
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/juno15:04
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-215:04
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ttxanteaya: does tat help ^?15:04
anteayattx yes, it does, thank you15:04
anteayaI need to write docs for things I don't know how to do15:05
yolandaanteaya, well, image built with disk image builder15:05
anteayayolanda: ah15:06
anteayayes, I have never worked with dib yet, so you know way more than I do15:06
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yolandaanteaya, it's quite strange, because i saw it working, i think that when i build the images on my workstation they work fine , but when i do it from another hpcloud instance, they fail with that error15:14
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Set py33 job for python-manilaclient as votable  https://review.openstack.org/10491815:14
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Added devstack job for manila  https://review.openstack.org/9993315:18
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds some text to Targeting Blueprints  https://review.openstack.org/10492115:21
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anteayayolanda: how odd15:23
anteayayolanda: have you tried another hpcloud region?15:23
anteayado you think that might make a difference?15:23
anteayattx I welcome your thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104921/215:24
anteayamy inital draft at targetting blueprints instructions for project drivers15:25
anteayaso that includes ptls of openstack and stackforge projects, I do believe that is the reason for using project drivers and not ptl in the documentation15:25
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openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for timing out ceilometer unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/10492515:28
yolandaanteaya, no, i'm trying now adding a nocloud element15:28
yolandacloud-init-nocloud, that looks related to datasources15:29
openstackgerritMark McLoughlin proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for timing out ceilometer unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/10492515:31
anteayaI don't even know what nocloud is15:32
yolandaanteaya, just testing adding a different element, no idea if that will work15:32
anteayaah15:32
anteayaokay, well go you15:32
anteayaI hope you learn a lot15:32
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yolandaaccording to doc: Configures cloud-init to only use on-disk metadata/userdata sources. This will avoid a boot delay of 2 minutes while polling for cloud data sources such as the EC2 metadata service.15:33
yolandaso as i'm getting a no datasource error, it's worth a tyr15:33
yolandatry15:33
anteayaah15:34
anteayayes, I agree, good thinking15:34
anteayaand reducing boot delay ftw15:34
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clarkbyolanda: I havent seen that before but I didnt get far enough to try booting images on hpcloud15:44
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clarkbgood to see fungi is still with us15:44
anteayait is15:45
anteayahey clarkb15:45
yolandaclarkb, one thing is see on nodepool, is that i need to include one element that is an operating system15:45
yolandaso i included ubuntu, and then this calls to an element that may be modifying cloud-init15:46
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anteayaclarkb: can you look at the difference between patchset 8 and 9 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95716/9 for me, is this a rebase?15:46
yolandait's relying on a DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES var15:46
ekarlsojamielennox: u around boss ?15:46
yolandaso i'm just trying to setup that, we may need to add this to nodepool config15:46
clarkbyolanda: the ubuntu element does that?15:46
yolandaclarkb, yes15:46
yolandaif you look at ubuntu deps15:47
clarkbgotcha so ya telling it to configdrive or whatever may help15:47
yolandait's calling cloud-init-datasources15:47
yolandaclarkb, and then, according to README in that element:15:47
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clarkbthough really we may not need it at all since we bake ssh key into it15:47
yolanda    export `DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES`="Ec2, ConfigDrive, OpenStack"15:48
yolandaIncluding this element without setting `DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES` will cause15:48
yolandaimage builds to fail.15:48
yolandaclarkb, but i don't know why ubuntu is including that dep15:48
clarkbanteaya: yup that looks like a rebase15:48
anteayaclarkb: kk thanks15:48
yolandaother elements as debian don't do it15:48
clarkbyolanda: oh I see it needs to be configured15:49
yolandaclarkb, but why do ubuntu depend on that?15:49
clarkbprobably because it is assumed you will need cloud init15:49
yolandaclarkb, then we will need to have a way to specify datasources on nodepool, and export this var15:50
yolandaif not any build is going to work15:51
clarkbya we can probably set it in our dib elements?15:51
yolandaclarkb, but datasource should depend on provider...15:51
anteayaI set the git branch to 'targetting-blueprints' for this patch and it got shortened to bp/s ha ha ha15:51
anteayahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/104921/15:52
clarkband ConfigDrive is probably what we want because mordred and jeblair were talking about that15:52
yolandasome providers could use Ec2, some others could use Openstack, right?15:52
clarkbyolanda: they all do config drive today15:52
clarkbrax and hpcloud15:52
clarkbit is possible that in the future that will need to be smarter15:52
yolandaclarkb, if that's a common option, we should export that in some of our elements15:53
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yolandai exported the var as Ec2, i'll do a test to check if instances are booting, and i also can test with ConfigDrive15:53
clarkbgreat curious to see what you discover15:54
yolandaok, i'll keep you informed15:54
clarkbbut it is time for more world cup and independence celebrating15:54
anteayaenjoy15:55
ttxyay game15:56
clarkbttx I might have to root for france15:57
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openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: (WIP) Zuul cloner per project override branch (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/10492916:00
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds some text to Targeting Blueprints  https://review.openstack.org/10492116:00
anteayattx go france16:00
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hashar\O/16:00
hasharoff as well, enjoy the weekend16:00
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mordredyolanda, clarkb: configdrive ++16:11
* mordred admits he's rooting for germany16:11
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anteayathen I definitly have to pick france16:12
mordredein gooooooooooooooool!16:15
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clarkbunivision comentarista is losing his voice16:15
clarkbI only got 0.75 Os16:16
mordredheh16:16
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mordredI would like to indicate to everyone that this: http://logs.openstack.org/21/87821/18/check/gate-config-puppet-apply-precise/176c5bc/console.html is not useful output16:17
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds some text to Targeting Blueprints  https://review.openstack.org/10492116:18
mordredjesusaurus: if you happen to be awake and aroudn ... ^16:18
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mordredoh wow. also - sudo mv /tmp/hosts /etc/hosts16:20
clarkbthats from puppet16:20
mordredhow am I supposed to test this?16:20
clarkband hosts is for the hpcloud fqdn thing16:20
mordredyah16:20
mordredbut it just does it16:20
mordredhow am I supposed to run this locally?16:20
clarkbwell before the etc hosts thing you could just run it16:20
mordredhow about we just fix the host files at node creation and not in the puppet test?16:21
clarkbif you can do that I like it16:21
clarkbnodepool needs a new feature/bugfix iirc16:21
mordredah16:22
mordredk16:22
clarkbor cloud init16:22
mordredI'll stop complaining about that then16:22
mordredclarkb: but seriously - there is no error in that test run16:23
clarkbbut since its puppet apply --noop you can just run it16:23
clarkbmordred there is16:23
mordredwhere?16:23
clarkbuser or target is mandatory16:23
clarkbthat is all puppet is saying16:23
mordred_Where_ ?16:23
mordredI hate puppet16:23
clarkbask puppet16:24
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clarkbpuppet error states are weird16:24
clarkbreturn codes are wrong16:24
clarkbmessages arcane16:25
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mordredwell, also we're throwing the output into dev/null16:27
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Make puppet apply failures debuggable  https://review.openstack.org/10493316:28
clarkbmordred only the non errors16:28
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mordredclarkb: I cannot tell what is wrong with that output16:28
mordredit is completely unusable as output16:28
mordredto be able to debug the failure16:28
mordredso while it may be correctly identifying an error16:29
mordredit is not telling me what the error is16:29
clarkbdoes stdout tell you?16:29
clarkbright16:29
mordredstdout _might_ tell me where to look16:29
clarkbso your change only makes the test run longer16:29
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mordreddoes it make it run longer with usable output?16:29
clarkbits an ssh_authorized_key issue according to google16:30
mordredWHERE?????16:30
mordredthat's what I'm complaining about16:30
clarkbmordred you made the parallel test runs run serially16:30
mordredand I printed the constructed thing that's being tested, and I stopped squelching output in an attempt to get an output that makes the error debuggable16:30
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clarkbbut neither of those things will help16:31
mordredo_O16:31
clarkbbecause the puppet error is braindead16:31
mordredthen why are we gating on it?16:31
clarkbbecause it is a real error16:31
mordredyou do realize why I'm frustrated, right?16:32
clarkbyes16:32
mordredok16:32
clarkbbut you need to realize this is puppet failing not the test16:32
mordredI have NO IDEA how to fix that error, because there is no information about the error anywhere in any output16:32
clarkbif your code merged without the test we would be more frustrated16:32
mordredI'm sure we would16:32
mordredI'm not saying taht we shouldn't test this - I just want more output so that I know which chunk of puppet is failing16:33
clarkbI think we assumed puppet would do that for us16:33
mordredwhen I run test.sh locally, I get TONS of output16:34
clarkbusually it says blah derp file foo:line number16:34
mordredso I'm confused as to why we're not seeing it16:34
clarkbdifferent versions of puppet?16:34
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clarkbanyways the stderr output has been sufficient to make this voting (fix all existing problems)16:37
clarkbso this is new and exciting behavior16:38
anteayaI tell tell how excited mordred is16:39
clarkbmordred you need to remove the print0 in your change16:39
mordredclarkb: yah. I'm going to abandon my change for now and try to debug - I've held a nodepool node and am running there by hand16:40
mordredclarkb: btw - --debug >/dev/null is a bit contradicatory ;)16:49
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clarkbright so if we want parallel and all that output we should write to file per puppet apply and cat post loop16:50
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clarkband maybe only cat if test fails? otherwise very noisy16:51
mordredyah16:51
swestonGood morning, all.  Has anyone had any issues with the scp plugin in Jenkins?  I was unable to pass the copyConsoleLog environmental variable into my Jenkins slaves so I recompiled it to get it working.  I am now wondering what the proper fix might be.16:53
mordredclarkb: ok. I found the error - you're right - even ALL of the debug output was not useful16:54
mordredclarkb: because puppet sucks just that much16:54
mordredclarkb: which I find ... frustrating16:55
anteayasweston: hi, I don't know16:55
yolandaweird, i hardcoded ConfigDrive into cloud element, but i still get the same error16:55
anteayayolanda: :(16:55
mordredsweston: you know we use a modified version, yeah?16:55
swestonmordred:  of scp  plugin?  I did not know that, no16:56
mordredclarkb: ^^ where does one get out copy? I forget16:56
mordredyolanda: hrm16:56
swestonanteaya: ok, thank you for the response, though16:56
yolandaand now that i see how it's installed, if there wasn't any datasource preset, it should be raising an error and exiting16:57
anteayattx I added a bit about specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104921/16:57
clarkbmordred tarballs.o.o16:57
mordredyolanda: we're not using cloud-init for anything ourselves right now, right?16:57
swestonmordred: clarkb: and where should this be documented, if anywhere?16:57
mordredyolanda: can we just disable cloud-init?16:57
anteayamordred: where can third party ci's find our version of the scp plugin?16:58
yolandamordred, i can disable calling to that element16:58
anteayaI didn't know we used a modified version16:58
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clarkbanteaya: tarballs.o.o should have it16:58
mordredclarkb: oh - actually, didn't we get that landed upstream?16:59
anteayaclarkb: ah sorry, I didn't catch that comment earlier ws for me17:00
* anteaya goes to look at the tarballs17:00
* sweston is looking at the git logs for scp17:00
yolandamordred, i commented the whole set, i'll retry17:00
clarkbmordred oh right jeblair is maintainer17:00
clarkbso ya its github17:00
mordredanteaya, sweston: sorry, I was lying before17:00
clarkbbut not released iirc17:01
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Notify in IRC when puppet run fails  https://review.openstack.org/9651917:01
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Use ansible instead of direct ssh calls  https://review.openstack.org/8782117:01
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add playbook for cleaning workspaces  https://review.openstack.org/9664617:01
clarkbbecause prior to jeblair maintainership the upgrade path was broken17:01
clarkband we still havent fixed that17:01
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swestonmordred: not lying, imho ... just inaccurate. lying implies malice ;-)17:02
mordred:)17:02
* mordred is yelling at puppet this morning, so the malice may have slipped in17:02
anteayaI don't think mordred is capable of malice17:02
swestonhehe17:02
anteayarage yes, not malice17:03
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* sweston yells at puppet alot17:03
* sweston and Jenkins too17:03
anteayaI yelled at the bylaw officer yesterday17:03
swestonbylaw officer?17:04
anteayaapparently he will only enforce parking (4 streets of metered parking in the whole town) and take water samples17:04
anteayayeah17:04
anteayaI think 6 straight nights of fireworks is too much17:04
swestonhehe17:04
swestonfines are only enforced where *you* park, anteaya17:05
anteayaclarkb: are one of these it? https://github.com/search?q=jenkins+scp+plugin&type=Repositories&ref=searchresults17:05
anteayasweston: exactly17:05
mordredhttps://github.com/jenkinsci/scp-plugin17:05
mordredyou just need tip of master there17:05
sweston^^ yes17:05
clarkbanteaya https://github.com/jenkinsci/scp-plugin17:06
anteayaso do we add documentation to tell third party ci to use that link to get the plugin?17:06
anteayaor do we have a better plan?17:06
swestonbut I had an issue passing in the copyConsoleLog environmental variable17:06
mordredwell, and then they'll have to build it - we should really publish a copy onto tarballs17:06
anteayaI'm all for a publish a copy onto tarballs17:07
swestonI am wondering if it was because I am not using zmq17:07
anteayahow do we do that?17:07
swestonor maybe I had an issue with setting the copyConsole option17:08
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swestonor both, hard to know, because by the time I recompiled I realized that you cannot just restart Jenkins to reload the plugins, you have to delete the hpi file and copy it back in17:09
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mordredanteaya: done: http://tarballs.openstack.org/ci/scp.jpi17:09
anteayamordred: you are awesome17:10
anteayasweston: can you use that tarball and document your experience?17:10
anteayawe need to ensure it works and then document it for others17:10
anteayacan you help me with that?17:10
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swestonmordred: yes, thanks.  took me like 40 minutes to download that code and run it yesterday for compilation17:11
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swestonanteaya: yes, I can do that.17:11
swestonanteaya: but I might take the rest of the day to relax.  it's hard to focus when there's beach and water all around you :-)17:12
anteayasweston: of course, enjoy the beach17:12
anteayalet's share the plan at the next third party meeting17:12
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anteayaand then maybe we can get some more help, if we need it17:13
swestonanteaya: ok, good plan.  I like planning plans17:13
anteayaand go for a swim, by all means17:13
anteaya:D17:13
swestonhehe17:13
swestonok, I will talk to everyone monday then.  have a wonderful weekend :-)17:14
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* mordred is once again going to try to land and babysit the ansible patch17:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Use ansible instead of direct ssh calls  https://review.openstack.org/8782117:15
anteayayou are a hopeful chap17:15
mordredclarkb: i do not believe that, in soccer, it is allowed to just grab a dude and pull him to the groudn like that17:15
clarkbmaybe in argentin17:16
mordredgood point17:16
mordredclarkb: also, are we happy enough with the state of mirroring for me to land the follow on remove things patches?17:17
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clarkbI think so?17:21
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clarkberror rates seem to have fallen since image rebuilds17:21
clarkband we know how to make bandersnatch work17:21
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mordredyah. did you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104574/ ?17:23
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clarkbya actually but didnt have time to process it17:26
clarkbI think you need to setup logging before getting the logger17:26
clarkbotherwise you just get defaults17:26
mordrednod. I'll do that - can't hurt in any case17:27
mordredok. previous puppet run done - here goes nothing...17:27
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yolandaso mordred, commenting the cloud-init element it worked17:31
yolandai wonder why it's a dep for ubuntu element17:32
mordredyolanda: because the tripleo guys assume that everyone wants cloud-init17:32
anteayahey more rain17:32
anteayawho'da thought17:32
mordredyolanda: I believe we should submit a patch to remove the direct depend17:33
yolandamordred, so porblem i see is that the output of cloud-init is that17:33
yolandadatasource_list: [  $DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES, None ]17:33
yolandaand hpcloud doesn't seem to like the None item there17:34
yolandamordred, any idea why that "None" is there?17:35
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greghaynesadam_g: ^17:46
greghaynes(he wrote it)17:46
greghaynesso, I think there is a None datasource17:46
greghayneshttp://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/datasources.html#fallback-none17:47
greghaynesIt might be worth changing that element so that default for $DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES is None, otherwise it doesnt append None17:49
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix the sshd config to for inbound ansible  https://review.openstack.org/10494317:49
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EmilienMfungi: so I did the patch to move puppet-trove to stackforge. But it seems there had a bug in gerrit config. What can I do to fix this out?17:57
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jesusaurusclarkb: it looks like that sporadic nodepool timeout bug hit me again17:59
jesusaurusclarkb: does http://logs.openstack.org/08/104708/1/check/gate-nodepool-python26/bfa06e8/console.html look like what you thought was fixed a while back?17:59
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clarkbya18:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fix the sshd config to for inbound ansible  https://review.openstack.org/10494318:04
openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/jeepyb: Make manage-projects group regex less strict  https://review.openstack.org/10494518:05
funginow that i have my chili at a stopping point, mystery solved ^18:05
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fungiEmilienM: i think that will fix the bug18:06
fungii'm going to try that momentarily18:06
fungiEmilienM: yep, that fixed it18:10
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EmilienMfungi: awesome, thanks a lot18:11
fungii've got a full manage-projects run underway to fix the others18:13
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fungiwe've still got problems convincing gerrit to accept acls for the attic projects, but i care a lot less about those on a holiday. fixing whatever's causing that (apparently separate) issue can wait for a workday18:18
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mordredfungi, clarkb: ok. ansible puppet is live and seems to be working18:21
mordredI'm going to be running a few more runs by hand just to double check18:21
yolandamordred, tried with ConfigDrive datasource, no error there, but instances don't boot properly18:21
yolandatrying with Ec2 now18:21
mordredyolanda: when you say instances don't boot properly - you maen adding configdrive option to the nova boot command doesn't get us a good image?18:23
yolandamordred, i mean that i used ConfigDrive on DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES var18:24
yolandanot sure if i need to add anything else to use ConfigDrive18:25
mordredyou do - you have to tell the nova boot to use config drive18:25
yolandamordred, just booting instances from nodepool18:25
yolandacan i send this option somewhere?18:25
mordredyolanda: yah. we'd need to add an argument in the nova boot call ...18:25
yolandalet me try to spin one by hand18:26
mordredyolanda: I thnk it's config_drive=True in the create call18:26
mordredyolanda: --config-drive=true if you do it on the command line18:27
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mordredyolanda: then I think the ConfigDrive option to DIB_CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES will cause cloud-init to mount and read the config drive volume18:28
openstackgerritAntoine Musso proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Refactor clonemapper internal structure  https://review.openstack.org/10491018:28
mordredfungi, clarkb: we have a surprising number of unhappy puppet runs18:29
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mordredfungi, clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/85506/18:30
mordredignore the unreachable ones for now18:30
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yolandamordred, yes, with that option, cloud-init runs18:33
mordrednice18:33
yolandaso if we are sure that we will be using configdrive in our images, i'll add this option to nova in nodepool18:34
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yolandamordred, you need to export that DIB var in some of the elements in your changes in config for nodepool? where will yo do it? (i just hardcoded it into cloud element for testing)18:36
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mordredhrm. it seems like we might want to add a cloud-region config var to nodepool18:40
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mordredconfig-drive=true or something similar18:40
mordredand then - oh, wait. no. duh18:40
mordredstop listening to me18:41
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anteayaokay paste 500ing on my all the time is really irritating18:47
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anteayait isn't just occasionally anymore it is consistently18:47
anteayahey Mahati_18:47
anteayaMahati_: is working on windows for money and wants to learn open source18:48
anteayaI'm helping her get started18:48
Mahati_Hello! Thanks for intro Anita.18:49
anteayapaste 500s and 500s and then I clear cookies and it 500s still18:49
anteayaboth firefox and chrome18:49
anteayahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/85507/18:50
anteayaso what is happening on the server when I see these spaces in the graphs: http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=14&page=218:51
anteayaand paste resolves for me now18:52
Mahati_oh good18:52
Mahati_i was looking into that18:52
yolandamordred, well, we need to know if we need to spin up the instance using config-drive or not. Or we just rely that all the images will need config-drive?18:52
anteayaMahati_: okay so your git review -s command worked, well done18:52
Mahati_yup18:53
anteayaMahati_: what is the next instruction in the docs?18:53
mordredyolanda: or - for now - we could go the other way - since we don't really use the information in config drive or ec2 for anything18:53
mordredyolanda: and could just go with "None" - untill we figure ou if configdrive works properly everywhere18:53
yolandamordred, i had to remove the "None" option to make it work in hpcloud18:54
yolandait was the reason why cloud-init was giving error18:55
mordredoh right.18:55
yolandaso either we disable all the cloud element there, or we set something18:55
mordredI'm annoyed that we're fighting cloud-init when we don't use cloud-init18:55
yolandamordred, instances looked fine just disabling it, so maybe we just remove it from ubuntu deps? do you know if it will affect anything else?18:56
mordredyolanda: I think that's the right chocie18:56
greghaynesWell just have to add it into devtest in tripleo land, but thats not a big deal18:56
mordredultimately there are some places we might want to chose to use it - but we don't, and our two clouds have different points of view ... so having cloud-init is actually more pain than not today18:57
greghaynesSo, we will need a second patch to tripleo-incubator before we could merge removing that dependency18:57
Mahati_anteaya: it says Development workflow -> Working on Bugs: TODO: Finding a bug in launchpad and assigning it to yourself.18:57
yolandamordred, ok, let me file the bug to be reviewed, i'll be outside next week but i'm returning at the end of the week18:58
mordredkk18:58
anteayaMahati_: ah okay18:59
anteayawell I'm working right now on changing the docs so that people learn the workflow using a test commit18:59
anteayaso while i do that18:59
anteayayou have cloned the sandbox repo, so inside there create a new branch18:59
anteayathen create a file and put some content in it19:00
anteayado git status and paste your command & output19:00
Mahati_anteaya: Okay19:00
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yolandamordred, https://review.openstack.org/10494919:03
Mahati_anteaya: http://paste.openstack.org/show/85508/19:05
Mahati_anteaya: created a file and staged it19:06
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install gcc on zuul hosts  https://review.openstack.org/10495019:08
anteayaMahati_: okay good work19:09
anteayanow keep in mind openstack is all python19:10
anteayaso can you change the ruby file to a python file?19:10
anteayaso hello.py?19:10
Mahati_anteaya: yup sure!19:10
anteayathanks19:10
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Mahati_anteaya: http://paste.openstack.org/show/85512/19:20
Mahati_anteaya: done. pasted it there19:20
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds instructions for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495119:22
anteayaMahati_: sorry I was gone so long: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104951/1/doc/source/developers.rst19:22
anteayaMahati_: can you read through that and do your best to follow the instructions?19:23
anteayalet me know if you have questions19:23
Mahati_oh okay. You just added patch :)19:24
anteayagreat so you are on line 183 of the new instructions I posted19:24
anteayayes19:24
anteaya:D19:24
anteayathat is the goal of learning the workflow19:24
Mahati_nice way to go!19:24
anteayalets find out how well the instructions work19:24
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anteayathanks19:24
anteayathanks for the help19:24
Mahati_yup, will read through and let you know19:25
anteayaI didn't know what was missing19:25
anteayathanks19:25
Mahati_no problem. Thank *you*19:25
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Adds instructions for new developers to use sandbox  https://review.openstack.org/10495119:35
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove puppetdb storeconfig setting  https://review.openstack.org/10495419:41
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Add playbook for cleaning workspaces  https://review.openstack.org/9664619:46
Mahati_anteaya: http://paste.openstack.org/show/85516/19:46
Mahati_Sorry, it initially said i didn;t have my contact info updated on gerrit. Hence so much time.19:46
Mahati_anteaya: and it shows two patchsets on the url19:47
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Mahati_anteaya: I have made another edit. So you should now see, 3 patchsets on this url: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104953/19:50
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove salt  https://review.openstack.org/9636119:51
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Remove old salt references from the puppet  https://review.openstack.org/9636219:51
anteayaMahati_: nicely done19:51
anteayacongratulations19:51
anteayaensuring you use git commit --amend to send subsequent patchsets is the key here19:52
anteayaokay what next19:52
anteayahmmmm19:52
anteayahave you reviewed any patches yet?19:52
anteayaMahati_: are you willing to review this patch for me? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104951/19:53
Mahati_:D thanks.19:53
Mahati_yes, sure19:53
anteayathank you19:53
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Trap for stale packages and purge them  https://review.openstack.org/10457419:55
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Mahati_anteaya: A suggestion. I initially did not understand how to differentiate the title & body (it was vi editor for me). So maybe a link to the gitcommitmessages: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Summary_of_GIT_commit_message_structure would help?20:03
Mahati_anteaya: title & body after 'git commit' command20:05
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mordredgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool20:09
anteayaMahati_: sounds like a good suggestion to me20:10
anteayaI'll make that change20:10
anteayathanks Mahati_20:10
Mahati_so do i add that comment there?20:11
anteayasure20:11
anteayaare you signed into gerrit?20:11
Mahati_yup20:11
anteayagreat20:11
anteayaso let's practice making an inline comment20:11
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anteayaso on the line where you want the url20:11
anteayaclick it20:11
anteayaa text box should open up20:12
anteayaenter your message20:12
anteayaand remember others will see you message with no context of our conversation20:12
anteayaso make sure teh comment has context by itself20:12
anteayado you see the text box yet?20:12
Mahati_oh yes20:12
Mahati_i did.20:13
anteayagreat20:13
anteayaenter your message and save20:13
anteayathen go up to the parent page20:13
Mahati_It says draft saved20:13
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anteayaand at the very bottom click either the review or comment button20:13
anteayayes, so the comment is a draft20:13
anteayabut isn't posted yet20:13
anteayaso you are the only one who can see it right now20:13
anteayaso now add the review and vote -120:14
anteayasince you would like an edit before you vote +120:14
anteayaand click submit20:14
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anteayaI have another thunder storm coming in and have to disconnect soon20:17
anteayaMahati_: how are you doing?20:17
Mahati_oh! Sorry! Done20:17
Mahati_Added a -120:17
Mahati_You should be able to see that20:17
Mahati_and yay! that's my first review :D Thanks to you!20:19
Mahati_anteaya: and yay! that's my first review :D Thanks to you!20:19
anteayayay20:19
anteayawell done20:19
Mahati_:D20:19
anteayayes I can see it20:19
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anteayaI have to disconnect now, go forth and review20:20
anteayaI'll be back later after the storm20:20
Mahati_anteaya: okay. Sure. Thank you so much for your time!20:20
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Mahati_anteaya: Take care. Have a good day.20:20
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Log run_all output  https://review.openstack.org/10495821:20
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nibalizermordred: go blow something up!21:27
mordrednibalizer: bah21:29
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Apply defaults to job-templates parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10002021:53
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Integration tests for templates defaults  https://review.openstack.org/10313421:53
openstackgerritVitaliy Lotorev proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add logfilesize plugin support (doc,tests)  https://review.openstack.org/10337221:57
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Continue reporting on URL format KeyError  https://review.openstack.org/10496322:48
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anteayaso here's some fun23:48
anteayaI lost internet at my house23:48
anteayaannnnd found out, by trying to connect to wifi at my neighbour's (which still has internet) that I can't connect to wifi since I upgraded to trusty23:48
anteayawooooooo23:48
anteayathis is the issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/322707/ubuntu-13-04-amd64-libnm-glib-problem23:49
anteayaso far I can't find the fix23:49
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anteayaI seem to have the latest version: http://paste.openstack.org/show/85521/23:54
anteayathere seems to be a -dev lib which I don't have so I will get that23:56
anteayaI'll reboot, there goes my pretty etherpad colour *sniff*23:57
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