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| Ng | lifeless: you .o/'d last night. I was snoozing. sup? | 08:38 |
| joa | hi o/ | 08:38 |
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| izinovik | hi stackers | 09:48 |
| izinovik | is it appropriate place to ask questions about how nova-network functions ? | 09:48 |
| kashyap | izinovik, This channel is for OpenStack infrastructure related topics | 09:49 |
| izinovik | kashyap, could you redirect me to right place ? | 09:49 |
| kashyap | izinovik, If you're facing issues w/ current git, then #openstack-nova is the right place, if you're facing issues with current stable release (IceHouse), then probably ask.openstack.org | 09:50 |
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| yolanda | hi anteaya, i just updated publication with right formatting, and updated content | 10:29 |
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| joa | anteaya: krtaylor_: I don't see much changes compared to when I left for my holidays on the Next 3rd-party meeting agenda. Was the meeting cancelled ? I should be available for today's meeting (maybe not up until the end but at least partly) | 10:35 |
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| krtaylor | joa, no, see the meeting logs, we had a good discussion and cinder ci status overview, we saved your topic to discuss with you | 11:59 |
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| anteaya | yolanda: okay great | 12:05 |
| anteaya | hi joa and krtaylor | 12:05 |
| _dguerri | Hello there. anteaya told me that she want to discuss this review https://review.openstack.org/109292 (inclusion of git-upstream in stackforge) during the next infra meeting. Who can add this topic to the agenda, please? | 12:05 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: so do you have time to talk about december? | 12:05 |
| anteaya | _dguerri: you can | 12:05 |
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| _dguerri | oh, really... cool :) | 12:05 |
| _dguerri | will do then | 12:05 |
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| anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting | 12:06 |
| krtaylor | hi anteaya | 12:06 |
| anteaya | hi krtaylor | 12:06 |
| anteaya | running away to a meeting or do you have a few? | 12:06 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, sure, for a little bit, warning - I am caffeine depleted | 12:06 |
| anteaya | np | 12:06 |
| anteaya | so december | 12:06 |
| anteaya | what things do we want to accomplish? | 12:07 |
| anteaya | one item is a face to face with third party ci admins so they can meet each other | 12:07 |
| anteaya | and teach each other | 12:07 |
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| anteaya | tutorial style | 12:07 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, its hard for me to think past summit, but yes | 12:08 |
| anteaya | also clarkb had a good suggestion to open it up for more general automated testing topics | 12:08 |
| anteaya | and draw in other folks | 12:08 |
| anteaya | well we have to get something figured out for there to be an event | 12:08 |
| anteaya | else it disappears | 12:08 |
| anteaya | what do you want to accomplish? | 12:08 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, I think some way for summaries of systems to be shared by those that cannot attend would be good define | 12:08 |
| dguerri | anteaya thanks. just added it | 12:09 |
| anteaya | dguerri: great thanks | 12:09 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: how is that different from what we have now? | 12:09 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, well, I was thinking it could be joint infra/thirdparty, we'll need infra there to get anything done | 12:09 |
| anteaya | it would be good to have as much of infra as can attend | 12:10 |
| anteaya | I disagree we need infra there to get anything done | 12:10 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, what we have now could work, the systems pages could be that framework, if it was used that way | 12:10 |
| anteaya | I think the folks attending third party meetings are getting a lot done | 12:10 |
| anteaya | let's work towards using that way | 12:10 |
| krtaylor | absolutely, not what I meant | 12:10 |
| anteaya | I want infra there, but I don't want the success of the event to be defined by jim's schedule for instance | 12:11 |
| krtaylor | also infra work | 12:11 |
| anteaya | since we haven't asked him what he wants yet | 12:11 |
| anteaya | right | 12:11 |
| anteaya | we can have some code sprint type work done | 12:11 |
| anteaya | like on pulling out a module or somethign | 12:11 |
| krtaylor | yes, I want more work on post summit decisions on jenkins, testing, storyboard, etc | 12:13 |
| krtaylor | not just third party focused | 12:13 |
| anteaya | sounds good | 12:13 |
| anteaya | I don't know about storyboard | 12:13 |
| krtaylor | like just happened | 12:13 |
| anteaya | that would be tough to pull off | 12:13 |
| anteaya | sounds like you want an infra meetup | 12:13 |
| krtaylor | whys that | 12:13 |
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| krtaylor | yes, with ci improvement as the focus | 12:14 |
| krtaylor | and other things, but primarily CI | 12:14 |
| krtaylor | I think the meetup/sharing event needs to happen at summit | 12:15 |
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| krtaylor | it will be hard for someone with a limited travel budget to attend both | 12:15 |
| anteaya | I think we are not at all on the same page | 12:15 |
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| anteaya | what just took place in darmstadt was a qa/infra meetup | 12:15 |
| anteaya | that is not what I want this event to be | 12:16 |
| anteaya | I want this event to be a chance for third party people to meet and learn from other thrid party people | 12:16 |
| anteaya | since there seems to be some myth than they can only do things once someone has blessed them | 12:16 |
| anteaya | and I need to dispell that myth | 12:16 |
| anteaya | there are many things third party folks can do to self regulate | 12:17 |
| anteaya | and teach each other | 12:17 |
| anteaya | and offer patches to code and documents that would improve their experience | 12:17 |
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| krtaylor | absolutely, thats why I wanted to form this group | 12:17 |
| anteaya | that is what I would like to focus on | 12:17 |
| anteaya | that is what I would like us to discuss | 12:17 |
| krtaylor | but I don't think it would work as a mid-cycle | 12:18 |
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| anteaya | it isn't a mid-cycle | 12:18 |
| anteaya | this is a third party meetup | 12:18 |
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| anteaya | expanded to include other folks interested in automated testing and quality frameworks | 12:18 |
| anteaya | some of which may have nothing to do with openstack | 12:18 |
| krtaylor | then why not at summit with better attendance? | 12:18 |
| krtaylor | oh, not OS, hm | 12:19 |
| anteaya | openstack is openstack | 12:19 |
| anteaya | OS is operating system | 12:19 |
| krtaylor | heh, with more coffee it is | 12:19 |
| anteaya | because I have no time at summit | 12:19 |
| anteaya | and noone else in infra has time at summit | 12:19 |
| anteaya | and summit is already planned | 12:19 |
| anteaya | we can't plan an event to take place at summit now | 12:19 |
| anteaya | we have no space in the schedule and no rooms | 12:20 |
| anteaya | summit planning took place long ago | 12:20 |
| anteaya | we can't just add events to summit | 12:20 |
| krtaylor | ok, thats why I was wondering | 12:20 |
| anteaya | good thing we are talking | 12:20 |
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| krtaylor | I doubt all sessions are planned, but I agree that space has been allocated | 12:21 |
| anteaya | so we need an event for third party folks to meet and talk to and learn from other third party and automated testing folks | 12:21 |
| anteaya | the time for sessions has been allocated | 12:21 |
| krtaylor | last summit, I was trying to organize a meetup where we used some common area, it turned out to be the dev lounge, so it wouldnt have worked anyway | 12:22 |
| anteaya | the most you can do at summit is gather some folks for drinks, informally | 12:22 |
| anteaya | since formal events are by lottery under the organization of the foundation | 12:22 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, ok, I am beginning to understand your vision, and I agree it is needed, what I saw all along too | 12:23 |
| anteaya | so let's consider summit unavailable for this kind of event | 12:23 |
| anteaya | great | 12:23 |
| krtaylor | I just see some problems getting good attendance | 12:23 |
| anteaya | so Austin | 12:23 |
| anteaya | it depends on what we are offering | 12:23 |
| anteaya | and I'm curious to know what you mean by good attendance | 12:23 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, I have sent out the request through the proper channels, should know soon | 12:23 |
| anteaya | I see 30 - 50 being no problem at all | 12:24 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: okay thanks, keep me informed | 12:24 |
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| krtaylor | really, my last event, we didnt break 20 | 12:24 |
| anteaya | since it if takes too long or the answer is no, we have to come up with a back up plan | 12:24 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: which event was that? | 12:24 |
| krtaylor | although it was tight focused, and planned last minute | 12:24 |
| anteaya | I think the planned last minute might be the key there | 12:25 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, agreed, it might not be a bad idea to see about a second location as a backup | 12:25 |
| anteaya | okay I put out some feelers already and can follow up with an email | 12:25 |
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| anteaya | what event was the last event to which you are refering? | 12:26 |
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| krtaylor | I organized a Linux/Android multimedia mini-summit in Austin on our campus, I was the Linaro multimedia tech lead at that time | 12:27 |
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| anteaya | that isn't even the same audience | 12:27 |
| krtaylor | on assignment into Linaro from IBM | 12:27 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, nope, not even close | 12:28 |
| anteaya | so yay for getting 20 people | 12:28 |
| anteaya | well done | 12:28 |
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| yolanda | anteaya, thx, i think formatting is fine now, but i'd like to have some feedback about topics | 12:28 |
| anteaya | so since I have zero plans to set up an entity to collect admission fees, let's just agree to make the event fee-less | 12:28 |
| anteaya | we get someone to pay for the room at a hotel and we ensure the hotel is close to restaurants | 12:29 |
| * krtaylor isn't sure but that he may have just been insulted on his summit marketing skillz :) | 12:29 | |
| anteaya | and then attendees do their own rooms and food and we get someone to cover the cost of the meeting room and av needs | 12:29 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: not at all | 12:29 |
| anteaya | I was complimenting you | 12:30 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, agreed, no registration | 12:30 |
| anteaya | no we need registration | 12:30 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, it would be IBM sponsored | 12:30 |
| anteaya | what we don't need is fees | 12:30 |
| krtaylor | right no fee | 12:30 |
| anteaya | well good | 12:30 |
| krtaylor | they would have to pay to get there and lodging | 12:30 |
| anteaya | let's get an email saying IBM will cover the room at a hotel and av needs | 12:30 |
| anteaya | then we will acknowledge them as sponsor | 12:30 |
| krtaylor | no, on campus | 12:30 |
| anteaya | hmmmmm | 12:31 |
| krtaylor | thats the only way we could do it | 12:31 |
| anteaya | really? | 12:31 |
| krtaylor | yeah, room/av is "free" that way | 12:31 |
| anteaya | well what kinds of food options are available on IBM campus? | 12:31 |
| krtaylor | we have full catering from our on-site cafeteria | 12:32 |
| anteaya | by attendees will have to pay our ot pocket | 12:32 |
| krtaylor | and restaurants close | 12:32 |
| anteaya | what choices will attendees have | 12:32 |
| anteaya | how close for restaurants? | 12:32 |
| anteaya | can people walk in 10 minutes or less? | 12:32 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, I'd see about IBM picking that cost up, maybe dinners are on the group but breakfast/lunch shouldnt be a problem | 12:33 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, there are several close, 10-15 min walk | 12:33 |
| anteaya | well if IBM wants to pay for two meals a day, that is acceptable to have it from the campus caterers then | 12:34 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: how close are hotels? | 12:34 |
| krtaylor | I can't say for sure IBM will yet or not, but I can ask :) | 12:34 |
| anteaya | that is fine | 12:34 |
| anteaya | just outlining what we would need | 12:34 |
| krtaylor | there are prob 4-5 hotels within a mile | 12:34 |
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| anteaya | okay | 12:34 |
| anteaya | what size of rooms can we get? | 12:35 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, like I said, I have a notebook with all we'll need to get done, all contacts, everything | 12:35 |
| anteaya | great | 12:35 |
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| anteaya | what size of rooms are available? | 12:35 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, room - I think I can get one of the big rooms, 40-50 shouldnt' be a problem | 12:35 |
| krtaylor | we have 3 or 4 that would work | 12:36 |
| anteaya | is there a room that would take 75 people if we got that many? | 12:36 |
| krtaylor | no, I think we'd have to cap it, but that seems to be a common approach | 12:36 |
| anteaya | so the largest room on the ibm campus could take 50 people max? | 12:37 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, I need to check that | 12:38 |
| anteaya | kk | 12:38 |
| krtaylor | maybe larger | 12:38 |
| anteaya | let's find out | 12:38 |
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| anteaya | so let's ensure we get confirmation that we can get a meeting room for at least 50 people for the first two days of Dec 1-5 2014, and break out rooms for the last 3 days of that week, about 15, 20 people per room, 3 or 4 of those | 12:39 |
| anteaya | av needs | 12:39 |
| anteaya | and breakfast and lunch for 50 people | 12:39 |
| anteaya | can you get that confirmation by August 15th? | 12:40 |
| anteaya | because if you can't, I will need time to find an alternate | 12:40 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, will do my best, anything else? :) | 12:43 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: that is all I can think of | 12:43 |
| anteaya | if we can get confirmation of that by August 15th, then we have enough to move ahead | 12:43 |
| anteaya | if other requirements come up, we can address them as they arise | 12:43 |
| anteaya | but we need this in place to even say we are having an event | 12:43 |
| anteaya | and thanks | 12:43 |
| anteaya | keep me posted | 12:44 |
| krtaylor | the other prob is the time, right after turkey day in the US I believe | 12:44 |
| * anteaya moves off to breakfast and resetting the pressure switch on the pump | 12:44 | |
| krtaylor | some might not be back from holidy to fly out on the 1st | 12:44 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: then more space for folks from not us to attend | 12:45 |
| anteaya | I think we will be full with a waiting list | 12:45 |
| anteaya | my estimate | 12:45 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, we can talk about that part later though | 12:45 |
| krtaylor | cool | 12:45 |
| krtaylor | I was thinking 3-4 day would work too | 12:45 |
| krtaylor | but let me find the rooms and get approval, then we can figure that out | 12:46 |
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| yolanda | here, i have a question. I need to upload a change, but it depends on another change in different project | 13:01 |
| yolanda | how does this work? | 13:02 |
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| anteaya | yolanda: you have to manually state the dependency in a comment in the patch | 13:13 |
| anteaya | and tests will fail until the dependency is merged, if tests depend on it | 13:14 |
| * anteaya hopes she has finished any home plumbing for the day | 13:14 | |
| yolanda | anteaya, so i leave a message in comment, something like Depends-On: xxx ? | 13:14 |
| anteaya | well I wouldn't put in the commit message | 13:15 |
| anteaya | just as a comment on the patch | 13:15 |
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| anteaya | but yes, something like that | 13:15 |
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| yolanda | ok | 13:15 |
| yolanda | anteaya, i'm working on some changes to allow having project descriptions automated into Gerrit, so i need updates in gerritlib and jeepyb, that's why i asked | 13:15 |
| anteaya | makes sense | 13:16 |
| anteaya | and awesome work | 13:16 |
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| AJaeger | SergeyLukjanov, fungi : Could you review https://review.openstack.org/109795, please? | 13:18 |
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| joa | anteaya: Now that I've unstacked my mails, back to CI (Now to set-up the cinder specific part) \o/ | 13:28 |
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| anteaya | joa: \o/ | 13:28 |
| anteaya | and welcome back | 13:28 |
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| joa | I hope my etherpad feedback before leaving was useful to you | 13:29 |
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| anteaya | I honestly can't remember | 13:30 |
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| anteaya | don't take that personally though | 13:30 |
| anteaya | do you have the etherpad link? | 13:30 |
| joa | no worries. I still have it on hand | 13:31 |
| anteaya | or remember the topic? | 13:31 |
| anteaya | great | 13:31 |
| joa | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Setting_up_a_3rd-party_CI___Issues_encountered | 13:31 |
| anteaya | thanks | 13:31 |
| * anteaya reads again | 13:31 | |
| joa | was kind of a summary of everything I had to understand before being able to set up the basic CI | 13:31 |
| anteaya | oh yes, yes yes yes | 13:31 |
| anteaya | this is awesome | 13:31 |
| anteaya | thank you | 13:31 |
| joa | Thought that making a list out of it might be a good basis for a tutorial-like thing | 13:31 |
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| anteaya | right | 13:32 |
| anteaya | good idea | 13:32 |
| anteaya | we have a new repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/infra-manual/ | 13:32 |
| anteaya | it is a manual | 13:32 |
| joa | oh good | 13:32 |
| anteaya | and spot for third party has just been created | 13:32 |
| anteaya | would you be willing to transfer your etherpad to the manual? | 13:32 |
| joa | I guess it will be updated properly in parallel of the main openstack-infra/config repo ? | 13:33 |
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| joa | I am, | 13:33 |
| anteaya | here is where it is published: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/ | 13:33 |
| anteaya | no, the manual is independent of the config repo | 13:33 |
| anteaya | and we are working on making the infra-manual to be a one stop guide for folks | 13:34 |
| joa | mhhh I mean, if some important thing changes (like the syntax to match trigger comments), it should be reflected in the manual repo too | 13:34 |
| anteaya | so if there is material published in two places we are working on making the material availabe in the manual and deleting other sources | 13:34 |
| anteaya | oh yes | 13:34 |
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| anteaya | yes, I see what you mean, yes, the manual must be kept up to date | 13:35 |
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| joa | Okay so the third-party is still empty as I see | 13:35 |
| joa | do you want me to putmy etherpad in a... redacted way ? (or at least a first attempt) | 13:35 |
| anteaya | start with one section | 13:35 |
| anteaya | look at the developer guide for an example | 13:36 |
| anteaya | break it up with headings | 13:36 |
| anteaya | since it will be the initial patch part of the feedback might be on how to set up this section | 13:36 |
| anteaya | so have a thick skin | 13:36 |
| anteaya | offer something and we will go from there | 13:37 |
| joa | okay, might not be done for today but I'll work on it. Do you have any deadline for this ? | 13:37 |
| anteaya | no | 13:37 |
| anteaya | no deadline | 13:37 |
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| joa | alright | 13:37 |
| anteaya | just offer something when you are ready, don't try to make it a masterpiece, just offer some patch | 13:38 |
| anteaya | and we will review | 13:38 |
| joa | okay | 13:38 |
| anteaya | thanks | 13:38 |
| anteaya | :D | 13:38 |
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| joa | you're welcome (also, if my feedback can help other people this way, it's all the better) | 13:38 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | AJaeger /me looking | 14:04 |
| AJaeger | SergeyLukjanov, thanks! | 14:04 |
| AJaeger | and fungi: Thanks as well! | 14:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | AJaeger, approved | 14:04 |
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| AJaeger | SergeyLukjanov, there's one more I'd like to see in for translations: https://review.openstack.org/108464 - and then there's the specs publishing: https://review.openstack.org/106100 . Thanks! | 14:05 |
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| jbryce | hi infra folks, what’s the total number of projects running through our infrastructure now? (i know i’ve asked this before, but i couldn’t easily lay my hands on the link to list) | 14:28 |
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| mordred | jbryce: 370 | 14:30 |
| mordred | jbryce: and just fyi, the following command will tell you that ... ssh -p 29418 review.openstack.org gerrit ls-projects | wc -l | 14:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | i assume that contains stackforge ? | 14:30 |
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| mordred | yup. 172 if you grep out stackforge | 14:31 |
| jbryce | mordred: thanks. can you point me to where the file is that contains the list? | 14:31 |
| mordred | jbryce: absolutely - one sec | 14:31 |
| mordred | jbryce: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/review.projects.yaml | 14:31 |
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| jbryce | awesome thanks | 14:32 |
| jbryce | gathering data for irs meeting tomorrow morning | 14:32 |
| mordred | ooh. excellent | 14:32 |
| mordred | the stackforge modules then are actually pretty important then | 14:33 |
| mordred | as many of them don't have direct things to do with openstack | 14:33 |
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| jbryce | mordred: exactly | 14:35 |
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| needscoffee | good morning :) | 14:39 |
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| krtaylor | sweston, ping, were you going to create a terms patch for third-party.rst? | 14:53 |
| krtaylor | sweston, else I can if you want | 14:53 |
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| yolanda | hi mordred, i sent you a review for the openstack-infra/config nodepool stuff | 14:57 |
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| yolanda | it was related to linux-headers-* packages for devstack, they aren't working for debian | 14:57 |
| yolanda | i was thinking in removing the package install from the element, and move it to devstack_node script, as we do with other dependent packages | 14:58 |
| yolanda | what do you think? | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Added LIKE search to project groups https://review.openstack.org/106457 | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/storyboard: Project Group member DELETE and PUT method have better results https://review.openstack.org/106507 | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | mordred: if you have a sec, I need another +2 on the change to add oslo alphas to the global requirements list | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109338/ | 15:01 |
| fungi | jbryce: if you need any more detailed data, let me know | 15:02 |
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| yolanda | mordred, jeblair, i also have a working version of nodepool , quite tested, can i get some review on it? | 15:03 |
| mordred | dhellmann: zomg. does it actually work now? | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | mordred: as far as I can tell | 15:04 |
| mordred | yolanda: yah. seems fine by me (the move of linux-headers) | 15:04 |
| mordred | yolanda: and yes, I'll look at the patches today | 15:04 |
| mordred | dhellmann: woot! | 15:04 |
| fungi | mordred: at least until the cheeseshop breaks it (currently under discussion) | 15:04 |
| yolanda | mordred, thx | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | mordred: that pbr fix for argparse was the last change, and that works locally, so... | 15:04 |
| mordred | fungi: wait - what? | 15:04 |
| yolanda | i can do the changes of linux-headers myself | 15:05 |
| fungi | mordred: did you see the thread on the packaging sig list last week? | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | fungi: shoot me | 15:05 |
| mordred | fungi: no. I did not | 15:05 |
| yolanda | mordred, i'll just update your openstack-infra/config patch with that | 15:05 |
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| mordred | fungi: is there a tl;dr or should I go read the thread? | 15:05 |
| mordred | yolanda: awesome | 15:05 |
| fungi | concerns have been raised that allowing uploads of wheels without accompanying tarballs could lead to pypi distributing compiled binaries without distributing source for them, which might violate some free software licenses | 15:05 |
| yolanda | i also pushed a pair of changes to gerritlib and jeepyb that can be useful | 15:06 |
| * fungi will dig up the thread | 15:06 | |
| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106100 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109675/ now have two +2s by fungi and SergeyLukjanov (thanks!) but no approval. Any infra core around for the +A, please? | 15:06 |
| mordred | fungi: the same can be done right now with eggs | 15:07 |
| mordred | why is this pypi's problem? | 15:07 |
| fungi | mordred: yeah, i know. i think there are just people who feel they need to be the license police | 15:07 |
| mordred | oh, well, they REALLY don't want to | 15:07 |
| mordred | because then they open themselves to liability, and it's almost impossible to get right | 15:08 |
| mordred | they really want ot be a common carrier | 15:08 |
| mordred | and behave as one | 15:08 |
| fungi | mordred: dhellmann: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2014-July/024575.html | 15:08 |
| fungi | r1chardj0n3s_afk: can probably discuss at length when he's awake | 15:09 |
| mordred | r1chardj0n3s_afk: I would VERY much like to talk to you about that ^^^ | 15:09 |
| fungi | dstufft also had some input on that thread (basically pointed out that we're doing exactly that right now) | 15:09 |
| mordred | awesome | 15:09 |
| * dhellmann considers building a pypi replacement | 15:10 | |
| mordred | "Also, reject uploads that are not released under a DFSG license or lack man | 15:10 |
| mordred | pages." | 15:10 |
| mordred | please tell me that daniel holth was trolling | 15:10 |
| fungi | i mainly only injected a plea for an alternate means of accomplishing what we're doing now via some more sane mechanism if they're seriously entertaining making that enforcement choice | 15:10 |
| mordred | that's the most absurd thing I've ever heard | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Shirley proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added support for JClouds Blobstore https://review.openstack.org/107515 | 15:10 |
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| dstufft | mordred: it's trolling | 15:10 |
| fungi | yeah, i think the dfsg comment was trolling | 15:11 |
| dstufft | daniel has an odd sense of hjumor | 15:11 |
| fungi | or more to the point, illustrative sarcasm | 15:11 |
| mordred | ok | 15:11 |
| mordred | just making sure | 15:11 |
| mordred | it's tough to tell with dfsg comments ... :) | 15:12 |
| dstufft | I'm meh on mandating sdists | 15:12 |
| salv-orlando | mestery, mtreinish, sdague: we’re reading to make the neutron full job voting. Overall failure rate below 10%, below 5% if patches with problems are excluded. if you have time, please re-review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88289/ | 15:12 |
| mordred | Nick says sane things | 15:12 |
| * salv-orlando obvisouly wanted to write “we’re ready" | 15:12 | |
| jbryce | fungi: the yaml gives me most of what i need. always interested in use cases of the non-integrated projects if anyone’s heard of new ones | 15:12 |
| dstufft | I understand the reasoning behind it, but I don't think it's going to be overlly useful and it prevents a trick | 15:12 |
| mordred | "Packages without readily available | 15:12 |
| mordred | source uploads just won't be redistributed" | 15:12 |
| dstufft | yea | 15:12 |
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| dstufft | basically that | 15:12 |
| mordred | dstufft: what if we _do_ have a source tarball for a different version? | 15:13 |
| dstufft | there are lots of ways to make it so a linux can't distribute your thing | 15:13 |
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| fungi | jbryce: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml is probably also a useful accompaniment (for the non-stackforge projects anyway) | 15:13 |
| mordred | I can't believe I'm about to say the next thing ... | 15:13 |
| dstufft | mordred: I dunno, I wasn't at EuroPython | 15:13 |
| dstufft | I know about as much as is on that thread | 15:14 |
| mordred | dstufft: they do realize that there are other things that are important than just getting included in the distros, right? | 15:14 |
| dstufft | I think it's a more or less pointless argument made by some random distro people | 15:14 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:14 |
| dstufft | but that's OK, I'm getting better at arguing with distro people | 15:14 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: thanks for the udpate and for the work on this! | 15:15 |
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| dstufft | mordred: just to be clear, I doubt anything will come of it | 15:15 |
| mordred | dstufft: phew | 15:15 |
| * fungi can't imagine any distro worth discussing would be retrieving a wheel and building a distro package based on its contents | 15:15 | |
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| mordred | fungi: also, it turns out you don't have to distribute source with binaries, even for the GPL | 15:15 |
| mordred | the source just has to be available | 15:16 |
| dstufft | fungi: well I think the thing is that by not uploading a sdist a distro can't package your thing | 15:16 |
| dstufft | and the distros obviously don't like that | 15:16 |
| fungi | mordred: correct. i suspect the "concern" raised is that wheels (which as you point out is also just as true for eggs) could encourage upstreams to no longer bother distributing source code corresponding to their releases | 15:16 |
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| dhellmann | it's true that not having the sdist on pypi makes distro packaging slightly more challenging for smaller projects | 15:16 |
| mordred | yup | 15:17 |
| mordred | but you know what, the packager who wants to package a project should discuss that with the upstream if/when the packager wants to package that project | 15:17 |
| mordred | it's not a thing that's systemically accomplished | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:17 |
| mordred | in debian, an ITP is filed, generally by a human who cares | 15:17 |
| fungi | i think the problem is the other way 'round though... if you don't put your release tarballs somewhere easily accessible to the public at large, distros aren't going to package and redistribute it. not sure why this is a problem for the distros themselves, just for the upstreams | 15:18 |
| mordred | that human has the ability to find where the source code actually lives | 15:18 |
| mordred | exactly | 15:18 |
| dstufft | fungi: because it makes more work for the distro people if they want to package your thing | 15:18 |
| dstufft | because now they have to convince you to publish an sdist | 15:18 |
| dstufft | instead of being able to just consume an already existing one | 15:18 |
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| mordred | dstufft: yup. but that's still not pypi's problem | 15:19 |
| mordred | anywho - dhellmann, I'll go poke your change now | 15:19 |
| dstufft | well yea, my response is more or less http://i.minus.com/ibflqegIrPmuwL.gif | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | mordred: thanks | 15:19 |
| mordred | dstufft: ++ | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | jbryce: also this patch and its dependency are additions to the governance/programs.yaml file that haven't been merged yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107395/ | 15:23 |
| clarkb | btw I restarted zuul on saturday | 15:23 |
| jbryce | anteaya, fungi: thanks | 15:24 |
| AJaeger | clarkb, thanks! | 15:24 |
| clarkb | there was a change that git wedged and it was writing gigs of logs. I couldnt figure a better way to unwedge it. was going to debug more this morning | 15:24 |
| AJaeger | btw. there're three jobs at the top of the check queue that need to be restarted somehow... | 15:24 |
| anteaya | jbryce: may those consuming the slides you prepare understand the contents | 15:25 |
| fungi | clarkb: saw that--do you need a bug opened and were you working on a patch? | 15:25 |
| fungi | clarkb: though i guess debugging more first makes perfect sense | 15:25 |
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| clarkb | no bug yet or patch | 15:26 |
| jbryce | anteaya: ha! there’s definitely some “up-leveling” i’m working on here = ) | 15:26 |
| anteaya | may it go well | 15:26 |
| anteaya | :D | 15:26 |
| clarkb | I wanted to resume weekend :) | 15:27 |
| fungi | understandable | 15:27 |
| fungi | and thanks for triaging' | 15:27 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: yeah, i suspect the nova-docker change at the top is killing its worker for that one job in such a way that zuul thinks jenkins is broken and keeps restarting it | 15:28 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: the stuck jobs for the nova and neutron changes after it look like zuul never got the completion message from jenkins | 15:29 |
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| fungi | the three stuck jobs are all on jenkins05, which isn't responding on its webui at the moment | 15:30 |
| fungi | i'll dig deeper | 15:30 |
| fungi | also the gate is full of breaking | 15:31 |
| fungi | that unstable ceilometer docs job seems to have failed to upload some files | 15:31 |
| AJaeger | fungi, wasn't jenkins05 not reachable last week ? | 15:31 |
| fungi | static.o.o might be in trouble | 15:31 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: yes, i believe so. this time it's less impacting, so i may leave it broken and open a support ticket | 15:32 |
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| fungi | jenkins05 is responding to icmp echo requests, but i don't get the sshd banner on 22/tcp | 15:33 |
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| fungi | oh yeah, the docs-draft docroot on static.o.o is smack full | 15:35 |
| AJaeger | docs-draft? Is the documentation team creating too much content? ;( | 15:36 |
| fungi | i've added the remaining ~100gb we had in the vg to docs-draft (bringing it up to 1.5tb) | 15:37 |
| fungi | as soon as the fs resize completes, i'll start runnign a find to make sure we're properly expiring old content | 15:38 |
| fungi | but at least this should lift the pain | 15:38 |
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| fungi | yeah, looks like it's just been steady growth... http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=718&rra_id=all | 15:40 |
| AJaeger | fungi, yeah, looks like no deletion or too late | 15:41 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: well, i don't think it's that we're not deleting. i think it's just that we're adding more projects with more gate-foo-docs jobs which all publish to docs-drafts and we may need to further shorten our retention window | 15:42 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, are these that large? I think openstack-manuals is the largest one... | 15:43 |
| fungi | i believe when this came up a month ago i pointed out that the cron job which expires old content wasn't being aggressive enough, and SergeyLukjanov said he'd look at patching it | 15:43 |
| AJaeger | There'S a single dent in the last graph a month ago but steady growth afterwards | 15:44 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: yeah, that dent was when SergeyLukjanov manually deleted some older files | 15:47 |
| AJaeger | ah, ok... | 15:47 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: right now http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/log_archive_maintenance.sh currently only deletes *.gz files older than 21 days under /srv/static/docs-draft (and empty directories) but i think we can get rid of the -name \*.gz in there and have it apply to all files besides what's in lost+found | 15:51 |
| fungi | i'm testing that now and will push up a review of the same momentarily | 15:51 |
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| AJaeger | indeed, that would not delete lots of files - see http://docs-draft.openstack.org/97/109097/2/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/b8cfc81/publish-docs/ | 15:52 |
| AJaeger | That should contain many files that are just plain html - or graphics etc. | 15:52 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, if you do what I guess you change, you get my +1 once I'm back from dinner ;) But first cycling home... | 15:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: ok I think I see the bug, will capture that and push a possible fix | 15:55 |
| fungi | clarkb: awesome | 15:56 |
| clarkb | except maybe I need to dig through the 28GB of logs to be really sure | 15:56 |
| fungi | ick | 15:56 |
| clarkb | I see why we got stuck. I do not know why we tried to double report a change | 15:57 |
| fungi | i'd be willing to blame that part on gerrit | 15:57 |
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| fungi | though you *might* find some java stacktrace in its log from when it tried to report the merge in the event stream or as a result of a query from zuul or something | 15:58 |
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| joa | anteaya: krtaylor: I'm going home to do the meeting from there. I should not be too late but just in case, I'm telling you both. | 16:02 |
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| anteaya | joa: kk | 16:03 |
| anteaya | fungi: glad static.o.o waited for you to return before filling up | 16:03 |
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| clarkb | fungi: the longer I look at this the more i am confused. zuul is maintaining this state internally and getting otu of sync with itself | 16:05 |
| clarkb | so I think the fix may be more subtle than I thought /me goes back to drawing board | 16:05 |
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| clarkb | fungi: jhesketh jeblair mordred SergeyLukjanov https://bugs.launchpad.net/zuul/+bug/1349486 | 16:17 |
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| clarkb | I think I am going to have to find my log mandoline and dig into where this started | 16:18 |
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| fungi | okay, the jenkins05 network failure recurrence is opened as support ticket 140728-ord-0010200 and i'm leaving the server in a broken state for now in case that assists the support techs in determining the underlying cause | 16:30 |
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| clarkb | 2014-07-26 00:13:36,483 is approximately when zuul wedged itself /me uses grep -B and -A | 16:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: rgr | 16:32 |
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| fungi | i am going to head out and grab lunch, then come back and hopefully get some proper reviews and coding done | 16:33 |
| clarkb | SSHException: Key-exchange timed out waiting for key negotiation bam that may have been the cause | 16:34 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1288899 in oslo "Unrelated failure in tests.unit.rpc.test_fake.RpcFakeTestCase.test_multithreaded_resp_routing" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1288899 | 16:37 |
| clarkb | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/zuul/scheduler.py#n1447 is where zuul had the ssh exception | 16:37 |
| clarkb | so I should be able to write a patch in a bit | 16:38 |
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| clarkb | reportItem() is actually fairly complicated.. | 16:53 |
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| asselin | clarkb, I got the nodepool nodes to go offline. How to you get them deleted and new ones created? | 17:02 |
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| clarkb | asselin: nodepool should do that automatically. it will mark and delete nodes that have completed testing | 17:04 |
| clarkb | asselin: then backfill those nodes with new nodes | 17:04 |
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| dstufft | mordred: do you know anyone at puppetlabs by any chance ;P | 17:06 |
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| dstufft | I know you use puppet | 17:06 |
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| clarkb | dstufft: a couple did or do hang out here | 17:08 |
| clarkb | Hunner: ^ | 17:08 |
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| craigbr | anteaya: Hi | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Fixed modules for project group admin. https://review.openstack.org/109438 | 17:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Added user administration interface https://review.openstack.org/109439 | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Simplify change reporting to handle errors better https://review.openstack.org/110066 | 17:16 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair jhesketh SergeyLukjanov mordred ^ | 17:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Added pagesize to browse service. https://review.openstack.org/109372 | 17:16 |
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| mordred | clarkb: item.reported = not self._reportItem(item) | 17:17 |
| mordred | that's just gross - but yeah | 17:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya | 17:18 |
| clarkb | I could change that up too, not quite sure why the logic is inverted there, but that is the way it was | 17:18 |
| mordred | well, because returning 0 is a success return code, even though 0 is false | 17:19 |
| clarkb | oh its the return code from ssh | 17:19 |
| clarkb | I get that code now | 17:19 |
| clarkb | it is to early in the morning | 17:19 |
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| mordred | clarkb: we could change the name from reported to need_to_report - because if the 0 from ssh gets returned, then you no longer need to report the value ? | 17:20 |
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| mordred | but that probably wants to be a follow on patch | 17:21 |
| mordred | since it probably has knock on effects | 17:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya that would make it easier to read | 17:22 |
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| ArxCruz | jhesketh: hey, ping when you're available :) | 17:33 |
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| Hunner | dstufft: Sup? | 17:36 |
| armax | is there anyone that could help with these two reviews? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106901/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106902/ | 17:37 |
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| armax | we’re trying to wrap up with Neutron DVR | 17:37 |
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| armax | and having an experimental job to test DVR with it would get us a long way in shaking out the last remaining bugs | 17:38 |
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| armax | I hate to nag people here :) I appreciate anyone’s help | 17:38 |
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| asselin | clarkb, what's the sequence of event to help debug the issue. Zuul tells jenkins to put the node off line. Nodepool detect's the node is offline, then deletes it. nodepool detects it needs to launch new nodes and does so? | 17:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add experimental job Neutron DVR testing on single node https://review.openstack.org/106902 | 17:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Armando Migliaccio proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Adds DVR related env variable to devstack-vm-gate.sh https://review.openstack.org/106901 | 17:47 |
| clarkb | asselin: zuul tells jenkins to run a job and mark the node it runs the job on offline when the job starts, jenkins completes the job and emits an event over the 0mq event publisher saying the job is done, nodepool receives the job complete event and marks the node that ran that job for deletion, nodepool node deleter thread deletes the node | 17:47 |
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| notmyname | interesting. the check jobs are fired off when I -2 a patch | 17:55 |
| clarkb | notmyname: it has been suggested by jogo iirc to change that | 17:56 |
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| anteaya | craigbr: hi | 18:12 |
| jogo | notmyname: yup, talked to jhesketh about getting it done | 18:13 |
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| craigbr | anteaya: In regards to https://review.openstack.org/108630, is the acl file optional? I thought it was required | 18:13 |
| clarkb | craigbr: the file itself is required, jeepyb knows where to look for that file by default so you don't have to list it in the projects.yaml file in all cases | 18:14 |
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| craigbr | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/108630 doesn't add an acl file and there isn't one there already | 18:15 |
| craigbr | with the right name | 18:16 |
| anteaya | craigbr: correct | 18:16 |
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| craigbr | anteaya: That wasn't fixed on the second patch set but it still got a +2 so I was wondering if I was confused | 18:17 |
| anteaya | craigbr: now if there were a line in review.projects.yaml headed acl-config: then an acl file wouldn't be required for that patch | 18:17 |
| craigbr | anteaya: right. I checked for that | 18:17 |
| anteaya | or if there is an acl file with the project name already in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/stackforge which there isn't | 18:18 |
| anteaya | craigbr: so you are correct, -1 patch needs an acl file | 18:18 |
| anteaya | good eye, sir | 18:18 |
| craigbr | anteaya: I will do that. Thanks | 18:18 |
| anteaya | link to an example of an acl file so they can use that as a template | 18:18 |
| anteaya | we need to ensure they know how to get a +1 when we give a -1 | 18:18 |
| craigbr | Good idea. I didn't do that on the first one | 18:19 |
| anteaya | that is okay | 18:21 |
| anteaya | you are learning | 18:21 |
| anteaya | and doing a good job | 18:21 |
| anteaya | keep it up | 18:21 |
| craigbr | The check for an acl file seems like a fairly simple check to write for a check job. I'll see if I can add that | 18:21 |
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| Shrews | Are there any known issues going on with our git repos right now? | 18:23 |
| Shrews | per: http://logs.openstack.org/39/94439/16/check/check-grenade-dsvm-icehouse/bca2fd6/logs/devstack-gate-setup-workspace-new.txt.gz#_2014-07-28_17_12_50_973 | 18:24 |
| fungi | clarkb: interestingly, your 110066 reporting fix to the scheduler does not actually collide with my 104963 | 18:24 |
| clarkb | Shrews: not that I know of. what are you seeing? | 18:24 |
| Shrews | clarkb: see link | 18:24 |
| clarkb | Shrews: are you here in hilsboro? | 18:24 |
| Shrews | clarkb: no :( | 18:24 |
| fungi | i bet he's nearish to a hillsborough though | 18:25 |
| clarkb | ok that job ran on a rax dfw node which is where the zuul mergers are hosted | 18:25 |
| clarkb | Shrews: but I Think that failure may be ok in some cases | 18:26 |
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| clarkb | Shrews: basically git tries to get refs that may not be there for all the projects | 18:26 |
| fungi | Shrews: that job checked out the tip of stable/icehouse for tripleo-incubator | 18:26 |
| clarkb | ya I think that isn't what made it fail | 18:26 |
| * Shrews keeps searching for more error msgs.... | 18:27 | |
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| clarkb | Shrews: look in grenade.sh | 18:27 |
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| clarkb | er the log with that prefix | 18:27 |
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| fungi | Shrews: since your change is targeting tempest master and that job is testing tempest master changes against stable/icehouse branches, i think that's correct behavior (unless there was a tripleo-incubator stable/icehouse change ahead of it in the gate, but this failure was in the independent check pipeline so there wouldn't have been) | 18:27 |
| clarkb | Shrews: http://logs.openstack.org/39/94439/16/check/check-grenade-dsvm-icehouse/bca2fd6/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2014-07-28_17_41_24_125 | 18:28 |
| Shrews | fungi: ah, thx for the explanation | 18:28 |
| Shrews | clarkb: still waiting for that one to d/l.... | 18:28 |
| * Shrews needs more b/w | 18:28 | |
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| fungi | Shrews: the git fetch errors are mainly because git doesn't have a way to query remotes for a ref without trying to get them directly, and then throws ugly errors if they're not there | 18:28 |
| clarkb | ya it was slow for me at intel | 18:28 |
| clarkb | I did it thorugh my socks proxy though | 18:29 |
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| Shrews | ah, no haz taskflow. thx clarkb and fungi | 18:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Add task_id to Timeline Event info https://review.openstack.org/106759 | 18:37 |
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| angdraug | I have a q about gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/107908 | 18:38 |
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| angdraug | last comment from gerrit is "The change requires a local merge to resolve." | 18:38 |
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| angdraug | however when I rebase the change locally, there's no conflict! | 18:38 |
| angdraug | what's it complaining about? | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Adding api events notifier and listener https://review.openstack.org/102842 | 18:38 |
| angdraug | is its failed merge attempt logged anywhere? | 18:39 |
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| clarkb | angdraug: gerrit uses jgit not C git. jgit is different than C git in its conflcit resolution and sometimes this happens | 18:40 |
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| clarkb | angdraug: pushing a manually update will fix it | 18:40 |
| clarkb | * manual update | 18:41 |
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| redrobot | hi, is Sergey Lukjanov around? RE: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109398/ | 18:42 |
| fungi | angdraug: right, gratuitously rebasing on the tip of the target branch should solve it even if cgit is smart enough to know there are no conflicts | 18:42 |
| angdraug | ok thanks. I guess I was right to suspect that it won't carry the +1/+2 from previous patch set in this scenario | 18:42 |
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| fungi | angdraug: it *may* (gerrit relies on comparing the git patch-id which is fairly forgiving) | 18:42 |
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| angdraug | actually yeah, it just did | 18:43 |
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| fungi | i actually think it's *too* forgiving in that regard | 18:43 |
| fungi | git was written for maintaining c source code, where whitespace is non-semantic | 18:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add commands to go to the prev/next change in the list https://review.openstack.org/109637 | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add a command to return to the change list https://review.openstack.org/109636 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Allow the default project change list query to be customized https://review.openstack.org/109635 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add an example gertty.yaml for OpenStack https://review.openstack.org/109634 | 18:44 |
| fungi | so git patch-id ignores whitespace changes | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Use account table in search https://review.openstack.org/109633 | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Add account table https://review.openstack.org/109632 | 18:44 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ohai! :) when you get a chance there are a couple zuul bug fixes floating around | 18:44 |
| fungi | which for python are often quite significant | 18:44 |
| jeblair | (teensy bugfix to the patch at the bottom of that stack) | 18:44 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: plural? :) | 18:44 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya fungi has one and I had one | 18:44 |
| clarkb | 11066 and 104963 | 18:45 |
| jeblair | clarkb: thx, will review now | 18:45 |
| clarkb | arg I used lp for the zuul bug | 18:45 |
| clarkb | I fail | 18:45 |
| fungi | mine is probably fairly low-priority, and just addresses the changes which fail to get reported on when a parent change fails in a dependent pipeline | 18:45 |
| jeblair | clarkb: zuul bugs are still in lp | 18:45 |
| clarkb | oh good | 18:45 |
| fungi | whereas clarkb's addresses a (hopefully rare) deadlock | 18:45 |
| redrobot | SergeyLukjanov ping | 18:46 |
| jeblair | clarkb: what was the issue that triggered your deadlock? | 18:46 |
| fungi | (pipeline deadlock, not a process deadlock thankfully) | 18:47 |
| clarkb | jeblair: late friday, zuul stopped doing all work not in check. It got an SSHException when trying to check if a change merged. At that point it went into an infinite loop failing to report that change | 18:47 |
| clarkb | jeblair: basically every time it processed queues it failed on that change, then tried to process queues again | 18:47 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: if you go to zuul.o.o:/var/log/zuul/clarkb there is a file with the relevant logs | 18:48 |
| clarkb | I had to slice through many gigs of logs to find that :) | 18:48 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so the trigger was a transient network error at a certain place? | 18:48 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yup | 18:48 |
| jeblair | ok, thx | 18:48 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: when_it_happened.txt is the file | 18:48 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: on saturday I restarted zuul manually to get past the issue | 18:50 |
| clarkb | decided to do that after I saw the size of the log files | 18:50 |
| clarkb | and it was halting stuff | 18:50 |
| clarkb | today I caught up and properly debugged it | 18:50 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: when_it_happened.txt sounds like a fanfic ebook from usenet. i like it. :) | 18:52 |
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| * fungi concatenates and uudecodes it for later reading | 18:53 | |
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| fungi | (must have been compressed as a .Z file before posting... go figure) | 18:54 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: two items on tomorrow's agenda from the third-party meeting | 19:00 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, whew, we always fill an hour, even with a sparse agenda :) | 19:01 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: we do, lots of questions | 19:01 |
| anteaya | you run a good meeting, kurt, well done | 19:01 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, thanks! | 19:01 |
| beecee | krtaylor: to continue the discussion, which link were you referring to? | 19:01 |
| anteaya | jeblair: tomorrow's infra-meeting agenda that is | 19:01 |
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| anteaya | beecee: so are you familiar with this page? http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#requirements | 19:04 |
| krtaylor | beecee, which driver will your CI system be testing? | 19:04 |
| armax | clarkb: thanks for the reviews, I adjusted the patches to address your comments | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | thanks | 19:05 |
| armax | clarkb: thank you | 19:05 |
| beecee | anteaya: only in the last 2 weeks | 19:05 |
| krtaylor | beecee, for instance, nova requirements are here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 19:06 |
| beecee | krtaylor: cinder/zadara . we first heard about it from DuncanT-'s mail out, and my boss handed off the task to me, so I'm coming at this fresh | 19:06 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i'm a little worried that with your fix we could end up in an infinite reporting loop | 19:06 |
| clarkb | jeblair: hrm maybe. like if gerrit goes sideways | 19:07 |
| krtaylor | beecee, understood, there are several -cinder groups starting to test drivers | 19:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb: there are two actions handled in the reporting: leaving a vote and verifying that the change merged (if applicable) | 19:07 |
| clarkb | or that change makes itself unhappy | 19:07 |
| anteaya | beecee: you hadn't heard about the need to test your driver prior to DuncanT's email? | 19:07 |
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| anteaya | beecee: just trying to understand your perspective here | 19:07 |
| krtaylor | I was about to ask the same | 19:07 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: also if you can review this series: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/gerrit+branch:openstack/2.8.4,n,z | 19:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair I can look at it more in the afternoon | 19:08 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: this is to get me gerrit permissions to create and edit third party ci accounts | 19:08 |
| clarkb | it did bend my mind a bit this morning | 19:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: in fact, i think your change would report results twice for the incident that triggered this | 19:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: because it was the verification that failed, not the actual reporting | 19:09 |
| clarkb | right so there is a check to see if we reported | 19:09 |
| beecee | anteaya: there's a difference between myself hearing about it, and the company hearing about it. I hadn't, and from asking around internally, the people previously responsible for openstack integration hadn't either | 19:09 |
| clarkb | so it would report and succeed then verification failed | 19:09 |
| anteaya | zaro: I think we have some rebase syntax in this file: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109796/1/Documentation/cmd-set-account.txt | 19:09 |
| anteaya | line 26 <<<<<<< HEAD | 19:09 |
| clarkb | so next time through it skips reporting and verification succeeds | 19:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ah true, so it would not report twice | 19:10 |
| anteaya | and line 41 >>>>>>> aa49e27... Allow to delegate modify account commands to non administrators | 19:10 |
| clarkb | jeblair the important bit is the first part of reportItem() | 19:10 |
| anteaya | beecee: okay, so that is a gap we need to address | 19:10 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, will do | 19:10 |
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| anteaya | beecee: because it is hard to address something if you don't know about it | 19:10 |
| jeblair | clarkb: okay, so we may actually be sufficiently protected | 19:10 |
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| beecee | anteaya: in previous companies, I did CI stuff, so I'm personally in favour of having everything continually tested, but I'm chasing the formal rationale from openstack as to why actual $$ should be spent ;) | 19:11 |
| anteaya | beecee: so let's continue, so here you are, you found the third party meeting, well done and you know about the ci.openstack.org third party requirements | 19:11 |
| anteaya | beecee: got it | 19:11 |
| anteaya | beecee: let's start from your prior experience then | 19:11 |
| anteaya | that sounds like a happy place | 19:12 |
| anteaya | and then expand | 19:12 |
| jeblair | clarkb: okay, so i think we're only as suceptible to reporting loops as we are now (and that would be only if gerrit records a vote but still returns error). i think that's okay. | 19:13 |
| clarkb | cool | 19:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: if we wanted to be extra paranoid, we could eject the change from the queue with a try/finally around reportItem | 19:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but i don't think that's necessary | 19:13 |
| jeblair | at least, not yet :) | 19:14 |
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| beecee | anteaya: the formal requirements that I've found are technical in nature. the assumption is that you've woken up one day and said 'hey, I've got a 3rd party driver that I want to maintain in openstack, how do I go about testing it on every commit' | 19:15 |
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| beecee | anteaya: I haven't found the political requirements, only hints that there are some and there are deadlines for test-it-or-lose-it | 19:16 |
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| beecee | anteaya: and this may well be that I haven't been previously involved in openstack development | 19:17 |
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| anteaya | beecee: political requirements | 19:17 |
| anteaya | not sure what you mean there | 19:17 |
| htrmeira | Hi guys, I am having some troubles creating a guest image for trove, does anyone know where can I find a tutorial? | 19:18 |
| mordred | anteaya: the ramifications of not chosing to test your driver on every commit | 19:18 |
| mordred | anteaya: the 'why' as it were | 19:18 |
| anteaya | htrmeira: have you spent time in the trove channel yet? | 19:18 |
| anteaya | htrmeira: #openstack-trove | 19:19 |
| anteaya | mordred: ah | 19:19 |
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| htrmeira | Not yet. Thanks anteya. =) | 19:19 |
| beecee | mordred/anteaya: and the per-project cut-off dates for not doing so | 19:19 |
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| anteaya | beecee: well you have it already, if you choose to not test your driver, it will eventually be deprecated from openstack | 19:19 |
| beecee | anteaya: yes, I know that. but where is that written? | 19:19 |
| anteaya | beecee: what project? cinder right? | 19:19 |
| anteaya | well it is just in the logs | 19:20 |
| beecee | anteaya: cinder specifically, openstack in general | 19:20 |
| anteaya | beecee: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2014-07-28.log | 19:20 |
| anteaya | right | 19:20 |
| anteaya | well we haven't put it in front of the technical committee | 19:20 |
| anteaya | since right now we are working hard to get things shored up | 19:21 |
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| anteaya | and deadlines are on a per project basis | 19:21 |
| anteaya | but openstack's axiom is if it isn't tested, it's broken | 19:21 |
| anteaya | and the third party code didn't come in through the front door | 19:21 |
| anteaya | is sort of eased in through the side, one project at a time | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Kim Jensen proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-manual: Added some initial content in Peer Review before ReviewChecklist link https://review.openstack.org/107588 | 19:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexandre Viau proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Added Jenkins jobs for Surveil https://review.openstack.org/110094 | 19:22 |
| anteaya | until it threatened the stability of one notable project | 19:22 |
| anteaya | so openstack as a whole is trying to do this dance | 19:22 |
| anteaya | and right now everyone is doing it differently | 19:22 |
| anteaya | and we are on a spectrum, which we are trying to formalize | 19:22 |
| anteaya | but we aren't there yet | 19:22 |
| anteaya | and when we try to formalize too quickly we risk upsetting some folks, who want to play but didn't know what was expected of them | 19:23 |
| anteaya | such as yourself | 19:23 |
| anteaya | so there is a balance | 19:23 |
| anteaya | but the quality was in question | 19:23 |
| anteaya | and needed to be addressed | 19:23 |
| anteaya | so actually a lot of this current situation comes from last release and the initiative of neutron | 19:24 |
| anteaya | and my stick weilding in that program | 19:24 |
| krtaylor | yes, and there is a lot of "understood" info that is in the process of being written down, its getting better | 19:24 |
| anteaya | so we have started to get some process in place | 19:24 |
| anteaya | not fast enough for some, too fast for others | 19:24 |
| anteaya | so trying to keep the group together is a lot of running from edge to edge | 19:25 |
| anteaya | exhausting | 19:25 |
| anteaya | and if you wait for formalized policy you will honestly be missing the boat | 19:25 |
| anteaya | join us and make the policy | 19:25 |
| anteaya | don't wait to read it | 19:25 |
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| beecee | anteaya: join the openstack side, we have cookies (and proto policy) ? | 19:26 |
| anteaya | sort of yea | 19:26 |
| anteaya | if that sells you on it, we can put it on a t-shirt | 19:26 |
| anteaya | if not, I have more | 19:26 |
| anteaya | been doing this dance almost a year now | 19:26 |
| beecee | anteaya: sorry if I'm making you repeat this, but that's the core of my comments, finding out this stuff as a newbie is very hard | 19:27 |
| anteaya | but the heart of it is, if it isn't tested, it's broken | 19:27 |
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| krtaylor | hm, prob closer to "we have beer" | 19:27 |
| anteaya | and all else comes from that | 19:27 |
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| anteaya | 'cept I don't drink, so beer doesn't sell me | 19:27 |
| krtaylor | good for you | 19:28 |
| anteaya | beecee: I understand that | 19:28 |
| anteaya | I have no problem repeating it | 19:28 |
| fungi | clarkb: mordred: jeblair: if you find yourselves periodically getting unsubscribed from lists.o.o mls like i am, i've tracked down a significant cause... some worms are spoofing mailer-daemon and postmaster for that fqdn in list posts, mailman is rejecting the posts and bouncing them to *us* and them my mta (but also at least gmail) is rejecting them as containing malware, and mailman incorrectly | 19:28 |
| fungi | identifies these as us bouncing ml post deliveries and increments our bounce scores | 19:28 |
| anteaya | interesting to have a chance to get a larger perspective once in a while | 19:28 |
| anteaya | beecee: and thanks for taking the time to ask | 19:28 |
| anteaya | beecee: are we getting any closer to getting you what you need? | 19:28 |
| mordred | fungi: uhm. wow | 19:28 |
| fungi | clarkb: mordred: jeblair: i'm not sure yet what the best solution to that is | 19:29 |
| mordred | fungi: nntp | 19:29 |
| fungi | mordred: oh, right. problem solved! | 19:29 |
| krtaylor | beecee, is anyone working on a cinder equivalent of the nova supported hypervisor matrix? | 19:30 |
| krtaylor | although that is prob a -cinder question | 19:30 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: yeah that is probably a cinder question | 19:30 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: what matrix are you referencing? is it a wikipage? | 19:30 |
| beecee | krtaylor: no idea. | 19:31 |
| fungi | clarkb: mordred: jeblair: i changed my exim config to start freezing those instead of rejecting them, and so far they have all been zip mime attachments identified by clamav as worm.mydoom-27 | 19:31 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 19:32 |
| griff | krtaylor: no, not really. Cinder has a different view on that. Closest we have is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderSupportMatrix | 19:32 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Update oslo requirements to use juno dev versions https://review.openstack.org/109338 | 19:32 |
| beecee | krtaylor: there's also a 3rd party matrix for cinder | 19:33 |
| krtaylor | griff, very nice, I didn't know about that one | 19:33 |
| beecee | krtaylor: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/certified-drivers | 19:33 |
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| anteaya | griff: yeah, when are we going to get the word certified removed from that wikipage? | 19:35 |
| anteaya | griff: do you have a timeline? | 19:35 |
| anteaya | I have asked cinder several times | 19:35 |
| griff | anteaya: as I said before I don't care... but if it makes people happy I'll update the wiki page right now | 19:36 |
| anteaya | great thanks | 19:36 |
| anteaya | it would make me happy | 19:36 |
| griff | anteaya: *who* is Cinder? Never met him/her :) | 19:36 |
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| anteaya | well the cinder team/program | 19:36 |
| griff | anteaya: I know.. I was joking | 19:36 |
| fungi | cindy maccinder | 19:36 |
| anteaya | griff: kk | 19:36 |
| griff | fungi: :) | 19:37 |
| anteaya | the moments to successfully troll me are few and far between | 19:37 |
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| griff | anteaya: what did you and the others decide would be an acceptable name? | 19:37 |
| anteaya | anything that means tested that isn't a version of certified | 19:38 |
| anteaya | I'll get teh link from the tc logs | 19:38 |
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| griff | anteaya: it's fine, I'll just change it to tested | 19:39 |
| griff | anteaya: IIRC you didn't like verified either | 19:39 |
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| beecee | griff: is the 'certified' from the so-called 'certification' test that driver_certs/cinder_driver_cert.sh runs? | 19:39 |
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| griff | beecee: yes | 19:39 |
| griff | beecee: and it was in fact a certification. But please don't get that debate started again. It's far too painful | 19:39 |
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| anteaya | griff: item 2.b: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-06-17-20.03.html | 19:40 |
| anteaya | beecee: you can read the thread here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/036933.html | 19:40 |
| beecee | griff: that puts a crimp in my plans to print out our 'cert' test and frame it ;) | 19:41 |
| anteaya | beecee: and the meeting log here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-06-17-20.03.log.html | 19:41 |
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| anteaya | griff: I don't recall expressing an opinion on verified, but tested was mentioned in the tc logs, so that is a direction I can support | 19:42 |
| griff | anteaya: updated, please check and give your approval if you have a moment | 19:42 |
| anteaya | I might have expressed an opinion on verified, I just don't recall doing so | 19:42 |
| anteaya | griff: what is the link? | 19:42 |
| griff | use the old one, it should redirect | 19:43 |
| anteaya | kk | 19:43 |
| griff | I'd like to test that as well | 19:43 |
| * anteaya backscrolls | 19:43 | |
| griff | Just ripping out wiki's isn't helpful, as some use bookmarks :) | 19:43 |
| beecee | griff: redirect works | 19:43 |
| griff | beecee: thanks! | 19:43 |
| anteaya | no redirect for me | 19:43 |
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| anteaya | url still is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/certified-drivers | 19:44 |
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| griff | anteaya: that's because it's a redirect | 19:45 |
| beecee | griff: and the wiki sent me two email notifications about it, guess I checked some notify-me box when I updated it | 19:45 |
| griff | anteaya: do you or do you not see the updated title and the removal of the word certified? | 19:45 |
| griff | beecee: :) | 19:45 |
| anteaya | okay that works https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers | 19:45 |
| anteaya | yes that works | 19:46 |
| fungi | anteaya: note that its title is now "Cinder/tested-3rdParty-drivers" and below that it says "Redirected from Cinder/certified-drivers" | 19:46 |
| griff | anteaya: cool. I'll remove the original link after a bit and replace it with a page that just says "not here anymore go here instead" | 19:46 |
| fungi | so yes, that latter url is now the canonical one | 19:46 |
| anteaya | as a small side note we are working toward using third party or third-party rather than 3rd party, to make searching and filtering easier | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/requirements: Don't use SQLAlchemy 9 version < 0.9.7 https://review.openstack.org/109238 | 19:46 |
| griff | anteaya: of course you are :) | 19:47 |
| anteaya | but that is more krtaylor bug, so I'll let him have that one | 19:47 |
| anteaya | griff: thanks for the update | 19:47 |
| anteaya | it looks good | 19:47 |
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| anteaya | beecee: so this is what the process looks like | 19:49 |
| anteaya | beecee: welcome | 19:49 |
| anteaya | beecee: let me know when you have enough to carry something to management | 19:50 |
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| beecee | anteaya: still reading the certifed mail thread | 19:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Simplify change reporting to handle errors better https://review.openstack.org/110066 | 19:54 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ^ though i assume we don't need to rush to restart | 19:54 |
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| rcarrillocruz | zaro: hey mate, are you around? | 19:56 |
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| anteaya | beecee: make yourself some popcorn and take some water with you, it is a chewy chat | 19:56 |
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| anteaya | okay I have to start getting packed | 19:57 |
| anteaya | so much for actually making slides today | 19:57 |
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| anteaya | hope brisbane doesn't mind me just nattering on about something to do with logs | 19:57 |
| anteaya | I'm going with less clothes this time and laundry soap | 19:57 |
| anteaya | let's find out if this is a good direction | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | fungi probably not | 20:09 |
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| anteaya | beecee: also something else to keep in mind is that customers/consumers of openstack compliant third party products are currently invited into the third party space | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/zuul: Continue reporting on URL format KeyError https://review.openstack.org/104963 | 20:13 |
| anteaya | and I am teaching them how to read the logs and assess the stability of code patches in gerrit as well as getting involved in reviews | 20:13 |
| anteaya | beecee: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040648.html | 20:14 |
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| asselin | clarkb, how does os-infra install rabbit mq needed by nodepool? | 20:19 |
| clarkb | rabbit mq? | 20:20 |
| clarkb | There shouldnt be a rabbit | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | just zeromq and gearman | 20:20 |
| asselin | clarkb, sorry...ok...zeromq...will search again | 20:20 |
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| anteaya | asselin: let's try to not use os as a short form for openstack | 20:21 |
| anteaya | os means operating system | 20:21 |
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| asselin | anteaya, ok good to know | 20:21 |
| anteaya | if you want to use o.o for the domain openstack.org that is something we are used to | 20:21 |
| anteaya | asselin: thanks | 20:21 |
| asselin | anteaya, thanks for the alternative | 20:21 |
| anteaya | np | 20:21 |
| anteaya | for some reason we are starting to see it and os always means operating system to me | 20:22 |
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| asselin | yeah, there's a reason why they have dictionaries for acronyms | 20:24 |
| fungi | asselin: i believe it just gets pyzmq from pypi. i've seen cryptic issues arise from using it backed by a system install of libzmq1 instead of its internal implementation (which tends to happen if you install debian's python-zmq package for example) | 20:25 |
| asselin | fungi, ok thanks...looking for the o.o puppet script that installs it...hoping to just copy that | 20:25 |
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| fungi | asselin: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/nodepool/manifests/init.pp#n86 | 20:27 |
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| fungi | asselin: we have a puppet vcsrepo object which clones/updates the nodepool git repo and then a subscribed exec which calls pip install on it | 20:27 |
| asselin | fungi, that's what I used.... | 20:28 |
| fungi | asselin: pip in turn pulls down any missing dependencies listed in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/nodepool/tree/requirements.txt | 20:28 |
| asselin | fungi, to install nodepool....how can I check if it's running? | 20:28 |
| fungi | asselin: service nodepool status | 20:29 |
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| asselin | fungi, * nodepool is running | 20:29 |
| fungi | there you go... off to the races | 20:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Petrello proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Run pecan py33-scaffolds jobs on py3k-precise nodes. https://review.openstack.org/108798 | 20:29 |
| asselin | fungi, ok I see..I though it was a separate process....will look into nodepool. thanks | 20:30 |
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| fungi | asselin: nodepoold will appear in your process list when it's running, and probably will correspond to a pid in /var/run/nodepool.pid | 20:30 |
| fungi | sorry, /var/run/nodepool/nodepool.pid | 20:31 |
| asselin | fungi, I'm running nodepoold -d 'manually' as nodepool user.... | 20:31 |
| asselin | I can try it as a service and see if that helps | 20:31 |
| fungi | asselin: oh, okay. i think that should work too if you want to run it in the foreground to debug | 20:31 |
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| fungi | asselin: running 'sudo nodepool image-list' and 'sudo nodepool list' will hopefully yield useful information if it's doing something, as will looking at its logs in /var/log/nodepool and the mysql db it's using to track status detauks | 20:33 |
| fungi | details | 20:33 |
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| asselin | fungi, I think I found the issue. I need to configure zmq-publishers correctly. | 20:34 |
| asselin | to be the same port as jenkins I assume | 20:35 |
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| Ajaeger1 | SergeyLukjanov: is there any special reason that you +2ed but not approved the specs.o.o publishing patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106100 ? | 20:36 |
| fungi | asselin: yes, probably so. ours is a list of master urls like tcp://jenkins03.openstack.org:8888 | 20:37 |
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| asselin | fungi, how do you know which port? is it the same as the jenkins http port? | 20:38 |
| asselin | fungi, or do you need a separate jenkins plugin for zmq? | 20:38 |
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| fungi | asselin: there is a jenkins zeromq publisher plugin | 20:39 |
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| asselin | fungi, ok thanks found it: Event Publisher (via ZMQ PUB SUB) 0.0.3 | 20:40 |
| fungi | asselin: zmq-event-publisher yep | 20:40 |
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| asselin | fungi, thanks found it here: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/jenkins.pp#n81 | 20:46 |
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| asselin | fungi, jeblair any idea when this will be released? https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/jenkins.pp#n84 | 20:47 |
| fungi | asselin: i'm not certain what the latest thinking was there... i believe it's a fork of a deprecated/defunct plugin to which console log collection was added, but no idea if the idea is to recombine it or take it over or what | 20:52 |
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| fungi | i find old discussions about abandoning it in favor of the publish-over-ssh plugin, but its current state still seems to lack console log collection based on my (albeit cursory) review | 20:55 |
| asselin | fungi, ok I see. Do you know if anyone is working on finding a solution to this? | 20:56 |
| fungi | asselin: not to my knowledge. i think most current effort in openstack-infra is tending toward working on replacing jenkins rather than further improvements to jenkins plugins we're running | 20:57 |
| asselin | fungi, ok yes I remember that discussion. ok I'll leave it as-is then. | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Added specification for storyboard subscription https://review.openstack.org/95307 | 21:10 |
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| fungi | jenkins05 returned to the network on its own at 1930 utc. no indication in any of its logs that it thought anything was wrong (continued running cron jobs and whatnot during the outage) just like back on the 23rd | 21:13 |
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| Ajaeger1 | fungi: it finally had some storage on draft-docs ;) | 21:14 |
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| fungi | i'll gracefully restart the jenkins service on it and proceed with nodepool cleanup | 21:14 |
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| fungi | (graceful jenkins shutdown, delete all jenkins05 nodepool nodes, start jenkins service again) | 21:14 |
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| beecee | fungi: I've sometimes seen machines become invisible to the network because their MAC address expired from their local switch because the machine wasn't sending any traffic to refresh the entry. | 21:17 |
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| fungi | beecee: not the case here... these servers are in constant communication with one another (cacti server polling snmp on them, puppet master logging in to apply manifests, jenkins communicating build status and jobs via zmq and gearman to zuul/nodepool, slave agent keepalives to all connected slaves, et cetera) | 21:19 |
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| jeblair | asselin: i think we broke backwards compatability in the scp plugin | 21:30 |
| jeblair | asselin: so i don't think we should release it until it's fixed | 21:30 |
| jeblair | asselin: i don't think anyone is working on fixing it | 21:31 |
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| jeblair | i'm also a little uncomfortable releasing it because the licensing situation is not clear | 21:31 |
| jeblair | not sure i want to put my name on that :) | 21:31 |
| asselin | jeblair, ok makes sense | 21:31 |
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| jogo | graphite logs look a bit funny today http://jogo.github.io/gate/ | 21:41 |
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| anteaya | jogo: static.o.o filled up for a bit off the top of the day | 21:44 |
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| anteaya | jogo: might that explain the 100% failure rate? | 21:44 |
| jogo | anteaya: hmm yeah that may be it, thanks | 21:45 |
| anteaya | np | 21:45 |
| anteaya | jogo: how is nova meetup? | 21:45 |
| anteaya | and when do you land in brisbane :D | 21:46 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 21:46 |
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| jogo | way too soon | 21:46 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 21:46 |
| jogo | nova meetup is good | 21:46 |
| anteaya | cool | 21:46 |
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| jogo | oh I have some slides for you | 21:46 |
| jogo | i'll email them | 21:46 |
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| anteaya | do you | 21:46 |
| anteaya | I'll take slides | 21:46 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:46 |
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| anteaya | jogo: oh and markmcclain is trying to figure out migrations so they work with neutron and nova | 21:47 |
| anteaya | jogo: you'll help him with that, will you? | 21:47 |
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| anteaya | jogo: which email inbox should I be staring at? | 21:48 |
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| anteaya | ah I see them, thanks | 21:49 |
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| anteaya | jogo: well from slide 5 I can focus on the logs for those tests | 21:50 |
| anteaya | that sets you up well | 21:50 |
| jogo | anteaya: yeah | 21:50 |
| anteaya | particularly tempest | 21:50 |
| anteaya | since unit tests logs can be a bit all over the place | 21:51 |
| jogo | yeah there can be some good tie ins | 21:51 |
| anteaya | but I can give them a hat tip | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | yes, having your slides helps thanks | 21:51 |
| jogo | anteaya: your talk is right before mine, right | 21:51 |
| jogo | anteaya: great | 21:51 |
| anteaya | well sdague's slides, arent' they | 21:51 |
| jogo | anteaya: sorry for taking so long to send 'em | 21:51 |
| jogo | anteaya: shhh | 21:51 |
| anteaya | jogo: yes, I am your warm-up act | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | jogo: :D | 21:51 |
| jogo | and yes thank you sdague | 21:51 |
| anteaya | jogo: np, I don't even have mine started | 21:51 |
| anteaya | so I'll just focus on setting up your slides | 21:52 |
| anteaya | makes it consistent for the audience | 21:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for nova-network floating IPs bug 1349590 https://review.openstack.org/110142 | 21:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1349590 in nova "nova-network appears to lock up while associating floating ip's" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1349590 | 21:52 |
| anteaya | nice graphics | 21:53 |
| anteaya | what app was used, inkscape? | 21:53 |
| jogo | anteaya: which graphics? | 21:53 |
| jogo | all were open office I think | 21:53 |
| anteaya | slide 16 | 21:53 |
| anteaya | really, open office does that? | 21:53 |
| anteaya | I am impressed | 21:53 |
| anteaya | yay I got a mention on slide 22! | 21:54 |
| anteaya | thank you | 21:54 |
| jogo | hehe thank sdague too | 21:54 |
| jogo | (thank him for most if it actually) | 21:54 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 21:55 |
| anteaya | I think we each have half an hour or something | 21:56 |
| anteaya | we can arm wrestle for time once you are jet-lagged in brisbane | 21:57 |
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| anteaya | I'll win | 21:57 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning all | 22:16 |
| anteaya | morning mattoliverau | 22:16 |
| mattoliverau | jogo, anteaya: you both ready for your flights down under? :) | 22:18 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Install modules before running puppet apply test https://review.openstack.org/110145 | 22:18 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: ^^ | 22:18 |
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| anteaya | mattoliverau: I leave the house tomorrow at 9am | 22:19 |
| anteaya | working on getting my things packed | 22:19 |
| anteaya | no idea when jogo's flight leaves | 22:19 |
| anteaya | he is in oregon | 22:19 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: that may just break if we are in a weird place. that is fine I guess and would confirm more weirdness | 22:20 |
| anteaya | mattoliverau: the weather looks like it is sunny and in the 20's every day all week | 22:20 |
| anteaya | is kim jensen in channel? | 22:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix neutron func job to install neutron and deps https://review.openstack.org/110147 | 22:21 |
| mattoliverau | Anteaya, cool, it should be nice weather, Brisbane in winter is lovely and warm :) | 22:21 |
| anteaya | would be nice if she could respond to my comment on her -1: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104951/ | 22:21 |
| anteaya | mattoliverau: nice | 22:21 |
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| anteaya | mattoliverau: to be honest, I still can't even think about it, I'm functioning on autopilot | 22:22 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: yeah, it would also uncover issues where we make a change to a module version, then an incompatible change gets merged after the module change but before nodepool updates its images | 22:22 |
| mattoliverau | anteaya: I think jogo traveling with Mikal as he is going from mid cycle to pycon, I think. | 22:23 |
| jogo | mattoliverau: I am on mikals flight | 22:23 |
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| jogo | mattoliverau: it makes lif easy | 22:23 |
| mattoliverau | anteaya: with all the traveling you've done recently I'm not surprised | 22:23 |
| anteaya | mattoliverau: and more to come, 3 this trip | 22:24 |
| anteaya | my longest yet | 22:24 |
| anteaya | jogo: nice, when do you land? | 22:24 |
| mattoliverau | jogo: nice, and you get an endless supply of mikal patented sarcasm the whole way, so worth every dollar ;) | 22:25 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:26 |
| anteaya | i want to hear mikal giggle for 20 minutes again | 22:26 |
| anteaya | made the summit for me | 22:27 |
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| mattoliverau | anteaya: lol, yeah, make sure you bring a USB pet rock :) | 22:28 |
| jogo | anteaya: the morning of my talk | 22:30 |
| jogo | mattoliverau: amen | 22:30 |
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| anteaya | mattoliverau: ha ha ha | 22:33 |
| anteaya | jogo: you will be one bleary eyed boy | 22:34 |
| anteaya | hopped up on caffiene | 22:34 |
| anteaya | not sure I will be able to be in the same room as you | 22:34 |
| anteaya | mattoliverau: ah just invoking the rock does it | 22:34 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:34 |
| beecee | I know I'm going to regret asking this, but 'usb pet rock' ? | 22:35 |
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| beecee | Was that another bit of silliness from the last summit? | 22:36 |
| anteaya | well it went like this | 22:36 |
| anteaya | so on the saturday after summit me and the australians went to the atlanta aquarium | 22:36 |
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| anteaya | and I loved it, and they had to keep fetching me | 22:36 |
| anteaya | we had a great time | 22:36 |
| anteaya | we went to the gift shop | 22:36 |
| anteaya | and pleia2 had been sick and couldn't make it to summit, so I bought her a stuffed otter by way of saying we miss you | 22:37 |
| anteaya | and so they were waiting for me in the gift shop | 22:37 |
| anteaya | so then I finished and we left | 22:37 |
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| anteaya | turns out jhesketh had also made a purchase | 22:37 |
| anteaya | a rock | 22:37 |
| anteaya | with a usp cable stuck to it | 22:37 |
| anteaya | in a box, with a booklet of instructions | 22:38 |
| anteaya | and mikal lost his mind | 22:38 |
| anteaya | couldn't stop giggling | 22:38 |
| anteaya | for like 20 minutes | 22:38 |
| anteaya | best time of the summit | 22:38 |
| nibalizer | what did lsusb show? | 22:38 |
| anteaya | every time he was in danger of stopping he would ask jhesketh a question about the purchase | 22:38 |
| anteaya | jhesketh: ^^ ? | 22:39 |
| nibalizer | we need to know | 22:39 |
| anteaya | like how much he paid for it | 22:39 |
| anteaya | jhesketh said it was on sale | 22:39 |
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| anteaya | that was good for about another 5 minutes | 22:39 |
| anteaya | mikal also asked if there was a book of instructions | 22:39 |
| anteaya | there was | 22:39 |
| anteaya | it was blank pages | 22:39 |
| jogo | anteaya: yeah, it will be interesting, that is for sure | 22:40 |
| anteaya | that was good for a few minutes as well | 22:40 |
| beecee | anteaya: not the strangest usb thing I've seen. skymall back from atlanta offered a 'usb paper towel holder' with an interchangable wine stopper as an ornamental feature on top | 22:40 |
| anteaya | beecee: ha ha ha | 22:40 |
| anteaya | beecee: like because when I have wet hands needing usb activity is my first though | 22:40 |
| anteaya | t | 22:40 |
| beecee | but.. a rock. | 22:42 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Run pecan py33-scaffolds jobs on py3k-precise nodes. https://review.openstack.org/108798 | 22:43 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:43 |
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| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 22:45 |
| anteaya | just telling beecee and nibalizer the story of the rock | 22:46 |
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| anteaya | from the aquarium | 22:46 |
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| jhesketh | Haha, it was wui | 22:47 |
| jhesketh | *well worth it :-) | 22:47 |
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| mordred | jhesketh: when you plug it in to usb - what does it do? | 22:49 |
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| jhesketh | As advertised in the blank instruction booklet... Nothing | 22:50 |
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| jhesketh | dmesg, lsusb etc all showed blank | 22:51 |
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| anteaya | still has me giggling | 22:54 |
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| anteaya | it just occured to me I don't have any hotels booked yet | 22:57 |
| anteaya | I should do that | 22:57 |
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| fungi | okay, jenkins05 has been gracefully stopped, all associated nodes deleted from nodepool/jenkins and then started again. i'm going to make a pass to clean up alien nodepool orphans in our providers too while i'm at it | 23:09 |
| anteaya | any indication what happened to jenkins05? | 23:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Formalized Resource Criteria API https://review.openstack.org/110160 | 23:11 |
| fungi | anteaya: nope. it just seems to have stopped receiving any tcp/udp traffic for nearly 30 hours and then magically reappeared. so far rackspace hasn't picked up the support ticket i opened earlier in the day | 23:12 |
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| anteaya | wow | 23:14 |
| anteaya | seems it needed a bit of a vacation | 23:15 |
| anteaya | is it happier now? | 23:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Formalized Resource Criteria API https://review.openstack.org/110160 | 23:15 |
| fungi | anteaya: seems to be. has fresh nodepool nodes and is running jobs | 23:15 |
| fungi | anteaya: though if it starts piling on ready nodes which are actually used, then i guess we're looking at a nodepool restart | 23:16 |
| openstackgerrit | David Lenwell proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: removed py3 tests from refstack-client https://review.openstack.org/109443 | 23:17 |
| anteaya | interesting | 23:17 |
| fungi | since that'll be a sign nodepool isn't watching its zmq events | 23:17 |
| anteaya | are those 2 33 hour jobs at the top of check from when jenkins05 disappeared | 23:18 |
| fungi | yeah | 23:18 |
| anteaya | fungi: hmmmm | 23:18 |
| anteaya | kk | 23:18 |
| fungi | if they get new patchsets, or if zuul gets restarted, they'll clear up | 23:18 |
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| anteaya | like stones rolling around in the dryer | 23:18 |
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| fungi | yep, that is indeed the case | 23:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: so you need to restart nodepool? | 23:22 |
| fungi | stopping jenkins05 again so it doesn't accumulate many more | 23:22 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah :( | 23:22 |
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| fungi | in another minute or two i'll nodepool delete all the ones which aren't running jobs | 23:23 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ok | 23:25 |
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