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| openstackgerrit | Ilia Meerovich proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements wrapper for ownership plugin. https://review.openstack.org/113348 | 05:09 |
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| omi | Hi, | 09:07 |
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| Guest41364 | When I add "footer message" the zuul stuck...any ideas why? | 09:08 |
| Guest41364 | Thanks | 09:08 |
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| ekarlso | what's the diff on check vs gate ? | 09:40 |
| lifeless | ekarlso: check runs on uplaods of patches and is a pre-req for gate; check runs with only that patch (and any deps) | 09:41 |
| lifeless | ekarlso: gate runs on commit of patches and runs with all the uncommitted gate-queued changes before it applied. | 09:41 |
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| ekarlso | https://github.com/openstack-infra/zuul/blob/master/etc/layout.yaml-sample diff there on check tests and gate ? | 13:39 |
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| ekarlso | phschwartz: when you're around, i'm interested in what you've done with zuul and github :) | 13:42 |
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| tnovacik | Hi, does anyone know how it is possible that my patches were changed by someone else? | 14:52 |
| boris-42_ | tnovacik everybody can re-upload your patches | 14:55 |
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| boris-42_ | tnovacik if he/she put the same Change-Id: XXX in commit message | 14:55 |
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| tnovacik | boris-42_, interesting and you think that it is a good idea ? :D as someone just changed topic of my patches to be my-patchset-1... :'( i do not really like that, can any anyhow forbid modification of my patches? | 15:04 |
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| boris-42_ | tnovacik nope | 15:20 |
| boris-42_ | tnovacik nobody can't do that | 15:20 |
| tnovacik | boris-42_, okay, thanks | 15:20 |
| boris-42_ | tnovacik actually it's very cool feature, cause for example sometimes there are misspelling in commit message, or code, or small nits, and instead of nitpicking core team can just update new version of patch and merge it | 15:21 |
| boris-42_ | tnovacik so if it was accidentally then you can upload one more patch set | 15:21 |
| fungi | tnovacik: while i agree that courtesy dictates not changing someone's change topic (without good reason) while uploading a new patchset for it, the version of gerrit we're running *does* allow you to edit the topic in its webui without needing another patchset to do so | 15:23 |
| fungi | thus, easily fixed | 15:23 |
| boris-42_ | fungi I think sometimes is good to upload somebodies patch | 15:24 |
| boris-42_ | fungi like type in TODO/NOTE | 15:24 |
| boris-42_ | fungi why boring people about that? | 15:24 |
| tnovacik | fungi, well yeah, of course i can fix it :), but i would prefer if this was allowed to core reviewers only for example, because then this kind of things can happen, i mean it not a big deal, but i would prefer to do something else instead :) | 15:25 |
| fungi | boris-42_: yes, i think so too. just best to avoid changing the topic when you upload a new patchset for someone else | 15:28 |
| boris-42_ | fungi ya that make sense | 15:29 |
| fungi | tnovacik: yeah, i don't personally mind someone fixing an issue they see with one of my changes, as long as it really is an issue and as long as they don't screw up something else | 15:32 |
| fungi | tnovacik: is sounds to me like whoever updated your change for you just didn't do it very cleanly and needs some additional guidance | 15:32 |
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| tnovacik | fungi, yeah, i think this is the case, i ll try to put an email together and let him know, because he probably does not know that he has changed my patches | 15:38 |
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| annegentle | is the doc site css broken for anyone else? | 18:19 |
| annegentle | http://docs.openstack.org/ | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it's broken | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | getting "service unavailable" for all the ones I try to open http://openstack.org/themes/openstack/css/blueprint/print.css | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | aha, openstack.org is broken | 18:21 |
| annegentle | AH! | 18:21 |
| annegentle | pleia2: should I call or can you? | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | annegentle: you please | 18:21 |
| annegentle | Sure | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | I don't know who to call, and am debconfing :) | 18:22 |
| annegentle | it's Rackspace, so I don't know if I have the right customer /account access, but I'll see what I can do | 18:22 |
| annegentle | jeblair: clarkb: I'm calling for Cloud Sites support on openstack.org and docs.openstack.org | 18:22 |
| annegentle | https://status.rackspace.com/ doesn't show any outage | 18:22 |
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| clarkb | annegentle: pleia2: I think the foundation was doing CDN work | 18:23 |
| clarkb | it is possible that is ongoing or incomplete | 18:23 |
| annegentle | ok | 18:24 |
| clarkb | you may want to check with todd or reed? | 18:24 |
| annegentle | heh, that was my next question | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | ah | 18:24 |
| annegentle | calling reed now | 18:24 |
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| annegentle | ok Stefano didn't know anything, so left a message with Todd | 18:27 |
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| clarkb | according to dns openstack.org is still pointing at cloud sites. so maybe rax can help? | 18:31 |
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| annegentle | clarkb: I don't think I have the right security question answer, checking | 18:34 |
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| clarkb | I dont know that I have it either | 18:37 |
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| pleia2 | it's back now | 18:53 |
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| YorikSar | Anybody from infra around? | 19:06 |
| YorikSar | How are alpha release wheels generated for oslo libs? | 19:07 |
| YorikSar | I see release of oslotest-1.1.0.0a1, but it's py2-only. Why is there no py3 wheel? | 19:08 |
| YorikSar | And what should I do to get it? | 19:08 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | YorikSar: assuming oslotest supports python3, it's setup.cfg should have `[wheel] universal = 1` in it | 19:10 |
| YorikSar | Alex_Gaynor: It can't have universal wheels because it has different dependencies for 3.x | 19:11 |
| YorikSar | So it just needs a separate wheel | 19:11 |
| Alex_Gaynor | Ah. I'm not sure then | 19:11 |
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| fungi | YorikSar: yeah, i don't think our current automation knows how to build separate wheels for different interpreter versions. it knows how to build universal wheels and wheels specific to the interpreter under which setup.py bdist_wheel is run. it may not be a ton of work to get that to run on additional interpreters, but it also may be worth revisiting whether interpreter-specific dependencies are a | 19:48 |
| fungi | sane choice in that situation | 19:48 |
| YorikSar | fungi: There are some differences there, but the main one as I understand is mox vs mox3 | 19:50 |
| fungi | YorikSar: and mock would be a viable solution (with some refactoring) to solve that, right? | 19:50 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: It's a library that has to support tons of code that already uses mox as well... | 19:51 |
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| fungi | YorikSar: getting mox{,3} replaced by mock in oslotest may be a more useful effort long-term than figuring out interpreter-specific wheel building automation for infra, but that's worth a broader discussion of course | 19:52 |
| YorikSar | fungi: I'd be all for purging mox usage once and for all, but it's a really hard process. | 19:52 |
| fungi | so i've gathered from earlier discussions | 19:53 |
| YorikSar | fungi: And in the mean time we have to support both mock and mox. | 19:54 |
| YorikSar | fungi: So oslotest has to have different set of requirements and we need those py3-specific wheels. | 19:54 |
| fungi | alternative... could oslotest py3k prerelease-based jobs choose to just support mock-based crosstests and skip the mox-based ones? | 19:55 |
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| fungi | (as an interim solution while projects work to eliminate use of mox) | 19:56 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Then we'll have untested lib code that runs in 3.x jobs for those projects. | 19:57 |
| fungi | we still do python 2.6/2.7 cross-testing with oslotest prereleases just fine using the py2 wheels, presumably | 19:57 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: And from what I remember forcing projects to switch to mock before supporting py3k will most likely to lead to new gaps in py3k adoption. | 19:59 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: But this is rather huge discussion. I've just got failure for requirements update CR in py33 job. | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christian Fetzer proposed a change to openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: valgrind publisher: Add parameters to fail build https://review.openstack.org/118062 | 20:16 |
| fungi | YorikSar: yeah, definitely an ml/summit/something discussion not a weekend-on-irc thing | 20:18 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Sure. | 20:19 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: But now I'm looking at job builder and zuul configs. And can't find no tests in pre-release queue... | 20:20 |
| YorikSar | fungi: And I also see only a special bulder 'tarball' in this template and wonder where I can find that one. | 20:21 |
| YorikSar | Getting to know our infrastructure is infinetly fun and interesting :) | 20:22 |
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| fungi | YorikSar: it looks to me like openstack/oslotest uses (among others) the publish-to-pypi project template which includes {name}-tarball and {name}-pypi-wheel-upload in the pre-release pipeline | 20:25 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Yes, but there's no testing there, right? | 20:25 |
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| fungi | YorikSar: oh, right no. i think it's more that some lib (pbr, et cetera) may run an oslotest-based cross-test job to confirm it doesn't break depending projects' unit tests, and might declare a pre-release version of oslotest in its test-requirements.txt file | 20:26 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Ah... | 20:26 |
| fungi | and if there were a py33 or similar version of that job, then it may fail to find the oslotest pre-release version specified because there's no suitable wheel for that interpreter | 20:27 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: Well... Basically the same happens in CRs created for requirements changes, isn't it? | 20:28 |
| fungi | i don't believe so, no. do you have an example failure for me to look at? | 20:28 |
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| YorikSar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117940 - this one brought my attention | 20:29 |
| fungi | oh! so we do have py33 cross-tests... interesting | 20:30 |
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| fungi | YorikSar: yeah, i think at least for the moment, we can't support py3k cross-test for prereleases of oslotest for that reason | 20:32 |
| fungi | dhellmann_: ^ (when you're not busy enjoying the holiday weekend like you should be) | 20:32 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: btw, where can I find sources for that 'tarball' builder? | 20:34 |
| bknudson | is there any easy way to download all the logs from a failure? | 20:34 |
| YorikSar | fungi: I'm curious how that works | 20:34 |
| bknudson | (it'd be nice if they were all tarred up for me) | 20:34 |
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| fungi | bknudson: wget has a recursive mirror option i think but other than that no (though worth discussing whether we could support .tar callouts for directories as an apache filter) | 20:35 |
| fungi | YorikSar: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/python-jobs.yaml#n204 | 20:35 |
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| bknudson | there's a robots.txt that tells wget to cut it out. | 20:36 |
| fungi | bknudson: oh, right. crazy kids and their robots | 20:36 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Yes, and the main point there as I understand is the last builder 'tarball' | 20:37 |
| fungi | YorikSar: that calls builder macros in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/macros.yaml | 20:37 |
| fungi | YorikSar: which in turn are running slave scripts from http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/slave_scripts | 20:37 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Oh, ok | 20:37 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Thanks! Will explore further | 20:37 |
| fungi | YorikSar: sorry, was building up the trail of breadcrumbs for you ;) | 20:38 |
| fungi | we have a few (potentially confusing) layers of indirection there | 20:38 |
| YorikSar | fungi: I didn't know about macros.yaml and never heard about it :) | 20:38 |
| fungi | YorikSar: it's just the arbitrary file we put most of the builders and publishers in | 20:39 |
| fungi | YorikSar: ultimately jjb just reads all the yaml files in that dir and hopes they interconnect in some meaningful way, so it's not as discoverable as it could be | 20:40 |
| YorikSar | fungi: Maybe we can add smth like 'import' statement to those YAMLs? | 20:41 |
| YorikSar | fungi: So that jjb would follow import chain instead of loading everything | 20:42 |
| fungi | YorikSar: perhaps, though that would be a backward-incompatible change so jjb would probably need to start versioning its configs or start using a new cli switch or similar | 20:43 |
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| YorikSar | fungi: All those YAMLs are lists anyway, so we can use the first element as 'metadata' and put version info and imports there... | 20:44 |
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| tchaypo | When we talk about things being "incubated" or "core" - does that apply to a program or a project? | 22:59 |
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| fungi | tchaypo: officially "incubated" is mostly only used in the context of the integrated release. projects wishing to be part of the integrated release apply for incubation, and then eventually apply for graduation from incubation | 23:02 |
| fungi | programs are either officially recognized or they're not (you have to apply to the tc to create a program) | 23:03 |
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| fungi | some alternative uses of the term "incubation" however include proto-projects within the oslo incubator and the tripleo incubator. also the neutron project has been recently talking about forming a sort of incubator for not-yet-ready-for-prime-time features | 23:05 |
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| fungi | tchaypo: as for "core" the term is far too overloaded at this point for any real clarity... i think it's primarily used in foundation board discussions around what is allowed to use and/or required for use of the "openstack" trademark (for further recent debate see the defcore working group discussions) | 23:07 |
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| tchaypo | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/NewProjects has a nice simple definition of core - it applies to whatever the Board applies it to | 23:20 |
| tchaypo | I need a tongue-in-cheek emoticon, :p doesn't seem quite right | 23:20 |
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| lifeless | do we care about python3.2 ? | 23:25 |
| lifeless | fungi: ^ | 23:26 |
| lifeless | fungi: specifically, precise's python3 is 3.2, but precise has 2.7; I'm investigating an option for testtools/subunit features that involves twisted - and their 3.x support starts at 3.3. | 23:27 |
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| lifeless | fungi: oh fun thing; I think I can make log access downloads faster. ;) | 23:42 |
| fungi | lifeless: we don't care about 3.2 support, no | 23:43 |
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| fungi | lifeless: we install 3.3 onto precise from a backport ppa to avoid doing our py3k compliance tests with 3.2 | 23:44 |
| fungi | lifeless: and soon we're going to bump them all to 3.4 on trusty and dump the 3.3 testing | 23:44 |
| fungi | so that we can drop our special snowflake nodes for the 3.3 stuff | 23:45 |
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| lifeless | fungi: so, we're not senting CE files | 23:46 |
| lifeless | fungi: so all our static files are being decompressed server side. | 23:46 |
| lifeless | fungi: this explains the terrible download times I've been largly ignoring | 23:46 |
| lifeless | bah | 23:46 |
| lifeless | CE headers | 23:46 |
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| lifeless | and the yak shaving goes on | 23:48 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Rename subunit_log.txt to testrepository.subunit https://review.openstack.org/118069 | 23:48 |
| lifeless | fungi: ^ may entertain you. | 23:48 |
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| fungi | lifeless: yeah, the server-side decompression for logs is in support of the log filtering with loganalyze, since it's server-side logic. if you specifically request a gzip content encoding you'll get it though | 23:50 |
| lifeless | fungi: *blink* | 23:50 |
| lifeless | fungi: so you don't want a patch to fix this this? | 23:51 |
| lifeless | fungi: what http client does loganalyze use that it needs the server to decompress? | 23:51 |
| lifeless | also if its not using persistent connections, you're probably losing more in slow start than you make up by having the apache server do the decompression work | 23:52 |
| fungi | lifeless: it filters your logs server-side based on get parameters for loglevel, and does highlighting inline (as a cgi) | 23:52 |
| fungi | so it needs the decompressed logs | 23:52 |
| lifeless | fungi: I'm presuming this is a manual effort balancing thing? | 23:53 |
| lifeless | fungi: or am I thoroughly confused? Anyhow - see https://review.openstack.org/118069 for context | 23:54 |
| fungi | lifeless: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/os-loganalyze/tree/README.rst | 23:55 |
| lifeless | fungi: we're sending vastly more data over the wire than we should | 23:55 |
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| lifeless | fungi: could you do a test for me - time http://logs.openstack.org/75/103775/15/check/check-tempe | 23:55 |
| lifeless | bah | 23:55 |
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| lifeless | time wget -S http://logs.openstack.org/75/103775/15/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/a59ec9b/logs/subunit_log.txt.gz | 23:56 |
| fungi | lifeless: apparently by the time the wsgi filter does the rendering, recompressing the stream isn't an option or something. i vaguely recall sdague explaining why, but don't remember the details now | 23:56 |
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