| clarkb | fungi: for 118859 is that the right place to put the param? should it be in jenkins_params.pp instead? | 00:00 |
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| fungi | clarkb: good question. i waffled over the options, but that's where we source the packages list for slaves | 00:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya I think so | 00:02 |
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| clarkb | fungi: but we source that package list for all nodes | 00:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: in modules/openstack_project/manifests/base.pp | 00:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: so I think a more appropriate location is jenkins_params then ensure both are instaleld? | 00:03 |
| clarkb | that way test packages don't leak into non test slaves | 00:03 |
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| fungi | clarkb: hrm... that only seems to get used for thick slaves, which maybe is still sufficient | 00:04 |
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| clarkb | fungi: it should be at least for now | 00:04 |
| fungi | okay, i'll give that a whirl | 00:04 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I only care so much because I just cleaned up jenkins::params.pp and that was :( | 00:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: we were double accounting stuff in weird ways | 00:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Python 3.4 and PyPy to Ubuntu Trusty slaves https://review.openstack.org/118859 | 00:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add non-voting gate-git-review-python34 job https://review.openstack.org/118860 | 00:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: thanks. one last thing and this doesn't need a -1. there is another lsbdistcodename test in thick_slave.pp should we combine the checks together or keep them separate as they are logically dealing with different things? | 00:19 |
| fungi | oh, good eye. i'll combine them. i also just noticed i typo'd the variable name for the python3_package in thick_slave.pp | 00:20 |
| clarkb | kk | 00:21 |
| clarkb | but between that change and my change to claenup jenkins::params I think we have a couple good slave image update chagnes to get in this week | 00:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Python 3.4 and PyPy to Ubuntu Trusty slaves https://review.openstack.org/118859 | 00:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add non-voting gate-git-review-python34 job https://review.openstack.org/118860 | 00:23 |
| clarkb | fungi: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118860/4/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml a bad rebase? | 00:25 |
| clarkb | that says docbookrestapi not git review | 00:25 |
| fungi | git rebase you bastard | 00:26 |
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| fungi | fixing! | 00:26 |
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| fungi | clarkb: oh, i see | 00:27 |
| fungi | clarkb: no, that's me prepping sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi as it was the only project in that file to directly instantiate the gate-{name}-python33 job-template | 00:28 |
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| fungi | clarkb: per the commit message, i'm making sure projects which create gate-{name}-python33 jobs also create gate-{name}-python34 jobs | 00:29 |
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| fungi | most are covered by adding it to the python-jobs group | 00:29 |
| fungi | that was the one outlier | 00:29 |
| clarkb | oh so git review has it by way of py33? I assume that was another migration chagne that I must've missed | 00:29 |
| harlowja | did u guys see the lwn.net article about openstack last week? | 00:29 |
| clarkb | harlowja: no? | 00:29 |
| fungi | ideally, we should probably just switch it to use the python-jobs group as well | 00:29 |
| harlowja | ah, let me get u a link | 00:29 |
| JayF | harlowja: I read the mailing list before the article existed :P | 00:29 |
| fungi | clarkb: that's a good suggestion. fixing | 00:30 |
| harlowja | http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/610769/7f9939039559b630/ | 00:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: i'll also break that into multiple changes for better clarity | 00:30 |
| harlowja | subscriber only, for some reason | 00:30 |
| harlowja | but i think u guys should be able to access through that | 00:31 |
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| harlowja | *nothing that special honestly, just was interesting that it got mentioned | 00:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add a Python 3.4 job template https://review.openstack.org/118860 | 00:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add non-voting gate-git-review-python34 job https://review.openstack.org/119964 | 00:41 |
| fungi | clarkb: better? | 00:41 |
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| clarkb | oh I think I understand why I was confused. the commit message in 118860 says it is adding it to the job group buit I don't see that happening | 00:42 |
| fungi | huh... where am i actually adding that to python-jobs though? i must have lost that edit | 00:42 |
| fungi | hold on | 00:42 |
| clarkb | ya that :) | 00:42 |
| fungi | er, it's already there | 00:43 |
| clarkb | right which is why jenkins didn' | 00:43 |
| clarkb | t -1 | 00:43 |
| clarkb | but the commit message is not quite right | 00:43 |
| clarkb | I grok now :) | 00:43 |
| fungi | aha. zul added it in https://review.openstack.org/102847 | 00:44 |
| fungi | correcting | 00:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add non-voting gate-git-review-python34 job https://review.openstack.org/119964 | 00:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi to python-jobs https://review.openstack.org/118860 | 00:46 |
| fungi | okay, i think those represent reality now | 00:47 |
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| clarkb | yup ty | 00:47 |
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| fungi | interestingly, the bare-trusty node i held a few minutes ago already has python3.4 installed, so that'll make manual testing easier but the change explicitly installing it is still good from a correctness standpoint (and adds pypy which is not installed yet) | 00:48 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I think py3.4 is default on trusty | 00:49 |
| clarkb | so you should mostly get it everywhere but being explicit is good if we end up with minimal images (eg docker) | 00:50 |
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| fungi | wow, we peaked at 900 jobs per hour earlier today | 00:52 |
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| clarkb | by the way I had to start some logstash worker processes today | 00:52 |
| clarkb | they seemed to be victims of the file descriptor issue and died due to being unable to resolve names | 00:52 |
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| jogo | how often do you guys do the equivalent of 'nova show server-name' or 'nova delete server-name' versus using UUIDs? | 00:59 |
| fungi | jogo: for me, roughly equally often | 01:00 |
| jogo | what about in nodepool or other scripts? | 01:00 |
| clarkb | jogo: I almost always do nova list then use uuids for actions | 01:00 |
| clarkb | jogo: because you can have the same name > once | 01:00 |
| jogo | clarkb: yup, I am working on a bug to make using names suck a little less https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1202179 | 01:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202179 in python-novaclient "findall in novaclient/base.py is inefficient" [Undecided,In progress] | 01:01 |
| fungi | yeah, i use the instance name as a convenience when i know there is one and only one with that name, to avoid having to look up its uuid | 01:01 |
| fungi | but if in doubt, i use the instance uuid instead | 01:01 |
| jogo | fungi: and what about nodepool? | 01:02 |
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| jogo | that uses pythonclient so it should use UUIDs for things | 01:02 |
| clarkb | jogo: it uses uuids | 01:02 |
| fungi | yeah, stores them in a db and uses them with the library to instantiate nova server objects | 01:03 |
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| fungi | and then calls the various methods novaclient provides | 01:04 |
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| jogo | fungi: cool, so I am trying to make 'nova {show|delete..} instance-name faster | 01:04 |
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| fungi | hrm... based on zuul's parsing of the current layout.yaml, we have 63 unique voting python34 jobs... i'm not sure it's worth my time to manually run tests for all of them | 01:05 |
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| fungi | er, unique voting python33 jobs | 01:05 |
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| fungi | maybe i can just script it | 01:06 |
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| fungi | but that goes onto tomorrow's docket i think | 01:06 |
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| winston-d | not sure this is the right place for gertty, but anyone successfully run gertty on Mac OS X? | 01:06 |
| fungi | winston-d: i think zaro has | 01:07 |
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| fungi | winston-d: also mordred mentioned making a shell account on a mac mini available remotely to jeblair for reproducing some obscure error conditions | 01:08 |
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| jeblair | winston-d: yes, notmyname has as well | 01:10 |
| notmyname | :) | 01:10 |
| jeblair | winston-d: make sure you start with version 1.0.1 (i just released it this morning) | 01:10 |
| notmyname | wait not that one | 01:10 |
| notmyname | ? | 01:10 |
| notmyname | that one | 01:10 |
| notmyname | winston-d: yes, I've run it a little on os x | 01:10 |
| winston-d | jeblair: unfortunately I have 1.0.1, but still not working. | 01:12 |
| winston-d | jeblair: http://paste.openstack.org/show/108575/ | 01:12 |
| winston-d | notmyname: so gertty is working on your Mac? | 01:12 |
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| notmyname | winston-d: yup. just upgraded to 1.0.1 and synced. looks fine | 01:13 |
| jeblair | winston-d: this is going to be a weird suggestion, but actually, can you "rm ~/.gertty.db" (or mv it to a safe place), and then install 1.0.0? | 01:13 |
| jeblair | winston-d: "pip install gertty==1.0.0" in a new virtualenv should do it i think | 01:14 |
| jeblair | winston-d: i'd be interested in knowing if that fixes it, and then, separately, if you "rm ~/.gertty.db" and then try again with 1.0.1 if that works | 01:14 |
| winston-d | jeblair: let me try | 01:14 |
| jeblair | winston-d: my two theories are (a) a "harmless" change to the migrations that we merged into 1.0.1 wasn't actually harmless | 01:15 |
| jeblair | winston-d: or (b) something random happened during the db setup and maybe it would work if you just removed it and started over | 01:15 |
| mordred | jeblair: (a) dad-blast it | 01:15 |
| jeblair | mordred: yeah, i tested a full migration from scratch before i merged that, so it'd have to be something weird like sqlite-on-osx caused it to derp. | 01:16 |
| winston-d | jeblair: remove db and 1.0.0 doesn't work: http://paste.openstack.org/show/108576/ | 01:16 |
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| mordred | jeblair: same here | 01:17 |
| jeblair | winston-d: that's a completely unexpected error | 01:17 |
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| winston-d | jeblair: but you know what, remove the db again and install 1.0.1 is working this time! | 01:17 |
| jeblair | winston-d: any chance you kept a copy of the db? | 01:18 |
| jeblair | i realize i didn't ask you too, i'm still learning how to remote-debug gertty myself :) | 01:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Configure triggers dynamically https://review.openstack.org/119534 | 01:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed a change to openstack-infra/zuul: Call driver methods more dynamically https://review.openstack.org/119533 | 01:19 |
| mordred | jeblair: oh! actually | 01:19 |
| mordred | jeblair: so, that might have been fixed by 1.0.1 | 01:19 |
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| mordred | jeblair: but when I was hacking on the migration changes - I did notice that once a migration breaks, it goes to hell until the end of time | 01:19 |
| winston-d | jeblair: nope. :( but since it never worked, I guess the db should be just as-in for a new installation. | 01:20 |
| mordred | jeblair: and maybe sqlite on osx throws keyword errors similar to mysql | 01:20 |
| jeblair | huh | 01:20 |
| jeblair | but notmyname was able to get it to work, however, i think maybe he also ran into a migration error? | 01:20 |
| jeblair | (before the 1.0.1 migrations change) | 01:21 |
| mordred | maybe? | 01:21 |
| winston-d | jeblair: the only changes need for gertty.yaml is username and pwd, right? | 01:21 |
| jeblair | winston-d: yeah, if you start with openstack-gertty.yaml (assuming you're using it with openstack ;) | 01:21 |
| winston-d | i have it running, but doesn't seem syncing anything | 01:21 |
| jeblair | winston-d: you need to subscribe to one or more projects first; | 01:21 |
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| jeblair | winston-d: hit 'L' to show the full list, 's' to subscribe, 'L' again to shorten the list | 01:22 |
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| winston-d | jeblair: ok, that helps. :) | 01:26 |
| winston-d | jeblair: btw, very nice tool. thx! | 01:27 |
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| jeblair | winston-d: you're welcome, thanks for trying it out, and sorry it didn't work right away | 01:28 |
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| jeblair | gotta run now for mid-autumn festivities :) | 01:29 |
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| winston-d | jeblair: have a good one, enjoy the moon-cakes | 01:29 |
| anteaya | 0 degrees, 5 minutes to the full moon | 01:30 |
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| anteaya | dhellmann: so the patch to report changes to the -dev channel | 01:30 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: right now we don't report any changes to the -dev channel | 01:31 |
| anteaya | would it be worth at least having a chin wag on the ml before we go ahead with this? | 01:31 |
| anteaya | just so folks can be informed and offer their thoughts on it? | 01:31 |
| anteaya | also the commit message says resolutions, but the code will post any patch to the governance repo | 01:32 |
| fungi | i fail at evenings. i've now got a loop of py33 jobs running on a held precise-py3k node for all projects where it's voting, and a similar loop on bare-prusty with py34, generating lists of what passes. hopefully i can compare the results to find out where we're going to run into pain | 01:32 |
| fungi | er, bare-trusty | 01:32 |
| anteaya | including stuff like dependencies and such | 01:32 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 01:32 |
| anteaya | evening fail | 01:32 |
| anteaya | good thing your wife knew that before she married you | 01:33 |
| fungi | well, she's got classes monday/wednesday/friday evenings | 01:33 |
| anteaya | that helps | 01:33 |
| fungi | so easier to get away with it tonight | 01:33 |
| anteaya | wise woman she is | 01:33 |
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| StevenK | fungi: Are you going to share the results on the list? I'm rather curious about the results. | 01:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: nice! fwiw I don't expect much failure but testing is good | 01:38 |
| anteaya | full moon | 01:39 |
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| fungi | StevenK: hopefully the results will be "it all works, lets switch asap" but if not then definitely | 01:41 |
| fungi | StevenK: i'm mainly just trying to rule out false negatives where 3.4 is failing because 3.3 is also failing and the project in question just doesn't have any patches merging to it | 01:42 |
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| fungi | there seem to be quite a few of those mostly very, very recently-added projects | 01:43 |
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| StevenK | fungi: Hmm, I added a bunch of py33 jobs very recently ... | 01:45 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: hello | 01:49 |
| jyuso | hi | 01:49 |
| anteaya | jyuso: let's talk here | 01:49 |
| jyuso | OK | 01:49 |
| anteaya | so what is your question | 01:49 |
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| jyuso | I think I just found a email..it said that our China government blocked 29418 port.. | 01:51 |
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| jyuso | :((( | 01:51 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: yes | 01:52 |
| anteaya | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045383.html | 01:53 |
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| jyuso | anteaya: Sorry,can't access that page:( | 01:54 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: well that doesn't help | 01:55 |
| anteaya | good thing irc works | 01:55 |
| anteaya | winston-d: you posted to that mailing list thread | 01:55 |
| anteaya | any support or advice for jyuso? | 01:55 |
| anteaya | jyuso is having some difficulty with the firewall out of china | 01:56 |
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| jyuso | OK,thx anteaya.I'll contact more people about this issue,there should be a solution I think:) | 02:06 |
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| mordred | jyuso: it is possible to use https | 02:07 |
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| anteaya | mordred: he has a ci system he is asking about | 02:07 |
| anteaya | sorry I was hoping he would re-ask the question in channel | 02:08 |
| anteaya | jyuso: what ci system is yours? | 02:08 |
| anteaya | the ci systems have unique problems with the firewall | 02:08 |
| anteaya | since they can't https | 02:08 |
| anteaya | only ssh | 02:08 |
| anteaya | the gerrit stream is only available via ssh | 02:09 |
| jyuso | anteaya: It's Intel-PCI-CI.Our CI is still in testing. | 02:09 |
| wenlock | jyuso , if you worked for a corporation with corporate proxies in US, you could use there proxies by directing your ssh connection to the corporate proxy with an application like corscrew | 02:09 |
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| anteaya | 11103 intelotccloud Intel PCI CI otc_cloud@163.com | 02:10 |
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| jyuso | wenlock: Yes.We have a proxy in US.But for some reason I can't use that proxy. :( | 02:11 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: you have been in testing since at least june: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99623/ | 02:12 |
| clarkb | jyuso: hrm you should be able to. at least you were when I was at Intel | 02:12 |
| clarkb | jyuso: you have to specify the folsom or oregon proxies directly though probably rather than using the geo load balancer names | 02:12 |
| wenlock | jyuso good article here, i think you can adapt that for review.openstack.org http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1040089/how-do-i-use-github-through-harsh-proxies | 02:16 |
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| wenlock | jyuso just adjust host and ports | 02:16 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: can you access stackoverflow? | 02:19 |
| jyuso | anteaya: Yes.I can access it.I think I should try to use https first. | 02:22 |
| jyuso | wenlock: OK,thx. | 02:23 |
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| wenlock | jyuso in case stackoverflow access is limited http://paste.openstack.org/show/108600/ | 02:23 |
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| wenlock | jyuso gl | 02:24 |
| anteaya | jyuso: your progress is slow if you are still testing and have been since june | 02:28 |
| anteaya | be sure to stay available in this channel and ask questions if you get stuck | 02:28 |
| anteaya | hopefully someone might be able to offer you suggestions so that you can continue to make progress | 02:28 |
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| jyuso | anteaya: Yes,It is still not stable enough:( Because I don't use zuul,but gerrit trigger.Our testing is based on physical machine.so lot of problem caused by environment.I can't just simple delete a instance:( | 02:32 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: wow, many obstacles for you | 02:39 |
| anteaya | jyuso: okay stay active in this channel | 02:39 |
| anteaya | let us know your progress | 02:39 |
| anteaya | do you know how to use paste? | 02:39 |
| anteaya | paste.openstack.org | 02:39 |
| jyuso | anteaya: OK,thx. | 02:39 |
| jyuso | anteaya: yes. | 02:39 |
| anteaya | good | 02:40 |
| anteaya | well paste your output from logs or stdout or err | 02:40 |
| anteaya | and ask for help when you need it | 02:40 |
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| jyuso | anteaya: OK,I'll do that when I need help.Thx a lot:) | 02:43 |
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| anteaya | jyuso: welcome | 02:47 |
| anteaya | this is the right time to ask for help, feature freeze is past and we have time to answer questions right now | 02:47 |
| anteaya | try to make as much progress as you can in the next 4 weeks | 02:48 |
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| kashyap | I couldn't recall the Ubuntu One password, and when I reset it, I get an "Invalid OpenID transaction" - Arrgh, any hints? | 04:29 |
| kashyap | Okay, despite the above, I see it is reset. Probably just poor error reporting. | 04:31 |
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| yfried | do you guys know what's up with the citrix CI? it's voting down patches and failing without even running tests | 07:29 |
| clarkb | yfried I think anteaya had it disabled. it was breaking on a devstack clone check iirc | 07:30 |
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| clarkb | there should be a link to the wiki in the comments with contact info | 07:31 |
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| yfried | clarkb: contact info is BobBall_AWOL | 07:31 |
| yfried | clarkb: ^ as you can see, he's not around | 07:32 |
| clarkb | no email address? | 07:32 |
| yfried | clarkb: and it seems like it's not disabled. any chance you could do that? | 07:32 |
| clarkb | hrm not right now have a link to an example change? | 07:32 |
| clarkb | sergeylukjanov may be able to if he is around | 07:33 |
| clarkb | curious to see recent comments | 07:33 |
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| yfried | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119611/ | 07:34 |
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| yfried | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112199/ | 07:35 |
| yfried | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102700/ | 07:35 |
| clarkb | on 119611 that comment would have been made before it was disabled | 07:35 |
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| yfried | clarkb: when was it disabled? | 07:35 |
| yfried | clarkb: what can be done in that case? | 07:36 |
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| clarkb | yfried late yesterday UTC probably 1800ish | 07:36 |
| clarkb | its disabled not much else to do | 07:36 |
| yfried | clarkb: so how can we remove the -1? simply push a new patch? | 07:37 |
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| clarkb | or just ignore it | 07:37 |
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| AJaeger | yfried, that -1 is not blocking you to accept the patch... | 07:38 |
| mattoliverau | I'm calling it a night, at my parents so probably should be social! | 07:38 |
| yfried | clarkb: AJaeger: personally, I usually don't bother reviewing patches with -1 | 07:39 |
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| yfried | clarkb: AJaeger: review queue is so large that I wouldn't click on it to see which CI gave it a -1. | 07:39 |
| yfried | clarkb: if 3rd party CI is not a blocker, it shouldn't register on the same level as Jenkins | 07:40 |
| AJaeger | yfried, that's a completely different issue. I was talking about gerrit... | 07:40 |
| AJaeger | yfried, so, if you want reviews, just push a new patch... | 07:41 |
| clarkb | yfried it doesnt you can filter by user in column and they cannot -2 or +2 | 07:41 |
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| clarkb | this is no different than a human giving a -1 you disagree with | 07:41 |
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| yfried | clarkb: that's a personal issue, but I think people don't bother to look at random patches that have -1 on Verification column since they assume it's not ready for review. | 07:45 |
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| yfried | clarkb: IMO, if we don't consider these CI systems to be credible, we shouldn't publish their results by default, and only expose them by request. (same thing as the "Toggle CI" button) | 07:47 |
| yfried | clarkb: or have them report to their owners without bothering us regular upstream contributors. | 07:47 |
| AJaeger | clarkb, once you're awake again, could you give https://review.openstack.org/119547 a review, please? | 07:47 |
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| clarkb | yfried we do do that. they cannot vote at all until they show there is reliability | 07:48 |
| yfried | clarkb: I've spent a large amount of time yesterday trying to understand what Citrix is, and what it has against me as a person... | 07:48 |
| AJaeger | yfried, this is a phase of change in OpenSTack where the projects require these votes and I see people like anteaya working hard to make this work smoothly. | 07:49 |
| clarkb | yfried unfortunately they wont always be perfect after getting those additional voting abilities | 07:49 |
| AJaeger | As you've noticed, it's not always easy. | 07:49 |
| yfried | AJaeger: clarkb: I know. and I appreciate your hard work, guys | 07:49 |
| AJaeger | yfried, the external CI systems now follow a naming pattern so that it's easy to recognize them. | 07:50 |
| AJaeger | yfried, rule of thumb: Jenkins is OpenStack, everything else not ;) | 07:50 |
| yfried | AJaeger: yeah, but my problem was that when I look on a bunch of patches I can't tell which is -1ed by Jenkins and which by a faulty 3rd party CI, so I just won't review any of them | 07:51 |
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| AJaeger | yfried, did you use the "Toggle CI" button to see the message there from Citrix? If you have suggestions on how to make it better, please discuss with anteaya once she's awake (US timezone) | 07:51 |
| yfried | AJaeger: I did | 07:52 |
| yfried | AJaeger: and I will | 07:52 |
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| AJaeger | yfried, yes, this is unfortunate... | 07:52 |
| clarkb | you can also search via vote and voter. something like verified:>0,jenkins | 07:52 |
| yfried | clarkb: didn't know that. tnx | 07:52 |
| clarkb | I forget the exact sytax but it should auto complete and is documented | 07:53 |
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| yfried | AJaeger: i'm a little angry that Citrix has only one guy in charge of it. when he's is on a much deserved vacation, I'm left to wonder what's up with this unknown system or have to bother you guys | 07:53 |
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| clarkb | label:verified>0,jenkins | 07:54 |
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| yfried | AJaeger: vmware-gate has their all team available to handle problems with their CI on a dedicated channel published in the wiki. I assumed citrix gate would have the same support. I was wrong | 07:55 |
| clarkb | apparently >0 is not the same as >=1 in this integer world | 07:55 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, SergeyLukjanov we lost openstack bot in #openstack-doc ;( Could you reenable it, please? | 08:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Mágr proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Packstack changes https://review.openstack.org/118333 | 10:15 |
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| AJaeger | flaper87, ping | 10:35 |
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| john-davidge | Just got a -1 from vAmour CI due to the test aborting: http://173.228.89.201/logs/vArmour-Neutron-CI/2622 : ABORTED | 10:41 |
| john-davidge | link doesn't lead to any logs | 10:41 |
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| lifeless | mordred: re dox: bindep may be relevant too | 11:01 |
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| lifeless | mordred: also with dox, being able to treat it as a backend for crcache might fit well into my plans for testr | 11:12 |
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| flaper87 | AJaeger: pong | 11:22 |
| AJaeger | flaper87, can you join us on #openstack-doc, please? WE had some glance_store discussion | 11:23 |
| flaper87 | lifeless: mmh, dox as backend sounds interesting. It's actually already possible to do that. The Runner can be imported and used standalone: https://github.com/stackforge/dox/blob/master/dox/runner.py#L32 | 11:23 |
| flaper87 | AJaeger: sure | 11:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed a change to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Fix lost content escaping for html safety https://review.openstack.org/120064 | 11:27 |
| sdague | yfried__: there is a setting in gerrit that lets you see what's leaving votes | 11:28 |
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| sdague | SergeyLukjanov: https://review.openstack.org/120064 is probably going to be pretty helpful to people looking at gate logs, it's an issue jogo found last night | 11:34 |
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| john-davidge | anteaya: IBM SDN-VE CI is now exhibiting the same error as Citrix Xenserver was yesterday | 11:39 |
| john-davidge | anteaya: http://sng01.objectstorage.softlayer.net/v1/AUTH_bbc5e0c7-0d10-46a0-a57a-29607ab57956/sdnve-openstack-neutron-plugin/1819/ | 11:39 |
| john-davidge | anteaya: See devstacklog.txt | 11:39 |
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| ekarlso- | phschwartz: up ? ;) | 11:48 |
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| Kiall | russellb / mordred / anteaya - Incubated projects + Merging code to Horizon/DevStack/Tempest etc thread started http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045441.html | 12:00 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | sdague, looking | 12:08 |
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| kashyap | Any Gertty users, what's wrong with this invocation? - http://paste.openstack.org/show/108860/ (It's from the latest release from pip) | 12:10 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya: if we have a policy of not posting there, that's fine. I can start a ML thread, or we can just drop it. | 12:16 |
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| kashyap | Answering my own question: Removing the SQLite db and reinvoking `gertty` does the trick (thanks flaper87!) | 12:19 |
| flaper87 | :) | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Teselkin proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pin pupppetdb-terminus package https://review.openstack.org/118660 | 12:41 |
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| sdague | jhesketh: you still up? | 12:51 |
| sdague | jogo: found a pretty substantial bug in os-loganalyze that we've missed for a while - https://review.openstack.org/120064 | 12:51 |
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| jhesketh | sdague: yep | 12:52 |
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| jhesketh | sdague : lgtm, nice catch by jogo. I'll merge it | 12:55 |
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| sdague | jhesketh: thanks! | 13:01 |
| jhesketh | no worries | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Fix lost content escaping for html safety https://review.openstack.org/120064 | 13:03 |
| jhesketh | sdague: did you have an example log to test it on now it's merged? | 13:03 |
| sdague | any nova-api log, the Calling method string will get you to an escape point | 13:04 |
| sdague | fungi: how often is the os-loganalyze code CDed in? | 13:05 |
| jhesketh | sdague: I believe 15min | 13:05 |
| fungi | sdague: puppet pulse every 15 minutes, can take a few minutes to complete. probably no longer than half an hour from merging | 13:05 |
| sdague | jhesketh: http://logs.openstack.org/61/118661/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/00a36b7/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2014-09-03_18_00_17_929 is a line that is currently wrong in the old/current code | 13:06 |
| sdague | so that line should change to show angle brackets once this lands | 13:06 |
| fungi | sdague: jhesketh: i just double-checked the cron job on our puppet master and it is indeed still every 15 minutes | 13:07 |
| sdague | fungi: cool | 13:07 |
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| jroll | anyone mind taking a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119473/ ? :) | 13:18 |
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| andreykurilin | sdague, hi! | 13:26 |
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| sdague | andreykurilin: hello, what's up? | 13:31 |
| sdague | jhesketh: looks like the fix is live now - http://logs.openstack.org/61/118661/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/00a36b7/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2014-09-03_18_00_17_929 | 13:31 |
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| andreykurilin | sdague, you already made a review to my patch in novaclient ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117277/ ). Based on your comment, I send two patches to global-requirements. Can you review it? | 13:34 |
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| jhesketh | sdague: awesome | 13:34 |
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| sdague | andreykurilin: +2 | 13:35 |
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| andreykurilin | sdague, thanks! | 13:35 |
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| bookwar_ | where can I find definitions for jenkins-job-builder macros/scripts/etc, like devstack-logs publisher for example? | 13:56 |
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| fungi | bookwar_: openstack-infra/config:modules/openstack_project/jenkins_jobs/config/macros.yaml | 13:56 |
| bookwar_ | fungi: thanks | 13:57 |
| fungi | bookwar_: er, that was from memory and slightly mistyped... http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/macros.yaml is an actual url | 13:57 |
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| bookwar_ | yes, got it, i've been there, just searched for some separate directory for some reason, as i didn't realize it is all there | 13:59 |
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| john-davidge | VMware NSX CI seems to have a bug which is causing tests to fail | 14:04 |
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| john-davidge | is this known? | 14:04 |
| john-davidge | just had another failure on this patch | 14:04 |
| john-davidge | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87987/21 | 14:04 |
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| john-davidge | looking at the logs for that and other patches it seems that error has come up in every test for the past couple of days | 14:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jordan OMara proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add xstatic-angular-fileupload support https://review.openstack.org/120101 | 14:06 |
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| john-davidge | Can somebody please disable VMware NSX CI? | 14:19 |
| john-davidge | See http://208.91.1.172/logs/neutron/87987/21/416573/console.txt.gz | 14:19 |
| fungi | john-davidge: sure, i'll shut down their account and send a notice to the third-party-announce ml | 14:19 |
| john-davidge | same two failures appear on every test since yesterday | 14:19 |
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| john-davidge | fungi: tahnks | 14:19 |
| john-davidge | fungi: *thanks! | 14:19 |
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| fungi | looks like they're https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/VMware_CI | 14:24 |
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| fungi | i don't see salv-orlando or rhsu in irc at the moment | 14:24 |
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| john-davidge | yeah, i had a look but didnt see them either, but I've sent an email to sorlando alerting them to the bug | 14:25 |
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| fungi | okay, i've switched their account to inactive and am notifying the third-party-announce mlml | 14:26 |
| john-davidge | fungi: is there an easy way to have the -1 taken off my patch or do i need to wait until their issues are fixed? | 14:27 |
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| fungi | john-davidge: it can be safely ignored, or they can update it with a correct result once their system is back in operation, or it will go away when you update your current change with a new patchset | 14:28 |
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| john-davidge | fungi: ok, thanks | 14:29 |
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| dansmith | I've seen the python26 nova job time out twice now.. is that just load or is there something up? | 14:31 |
| mordred | dansmith: I think it's because python 2.6 is old and doddery and should be put out to pasture | 14:34 |
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| sdague | holy crap, is there someone at canonical we can light on fire about launchpad timeouts | 14:34 |
| dansmith | mordred: heh | 14:34 |
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| fungi | sdague: nah, mordred hired them all | 14:34 |
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| sdague | I'm very close to rage deleting all openstack bugs, because actually triaging them requires approximately 10 clicks to change a nova state | 14:36 |
| mordred | fungi: I did not hire _all_ of them - wgrant still works there | 14:36 |
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| mordred | sdague: we're getting closer with storyboard ... | 14:37 |
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| * krotscheck agreees | 14:38 | |
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| mordred | krotscheck: I wrote and then ignored an import script - did anybody ever do anything with that? | 14:39 |
| sdague | well, if there is a chance to get some other projects over there, it might be nice. I think nova is too big to make such a transition. | 14:40 |
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| jeblair | sdague: we're not close to that point. the transition plan is to get it working enough for infra to use, bash at it a bit, then get it working well enough for openstack to use. | 14:41 |
| mordred | ++ | 14:41 |
| sdague | ok, so we're still then talking about a year for something like nova? | 14:41 |
| krotscheck | mordred: No yet. | 14:41 |
| sdague | which leads me back to the initial question, because it seems like just increating the timeout value on launchpad might really freaking help, if we could get someone to do that | 14:42 |
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| mordred | sdague: I'm pretty sure they actually lowered it and did that on purpose | 14:43 |
| mordred | sdague: when lifeless is awake, he can tell us more | 14:43 |
| jeblair | mordred: i got a gertty bug report via email and understand the alembic issues | 14:44 |
| mordred | jeblair: ooh! excellent. what are they? | 14:44 |
| jeblair | mordred: we require alembic >0.6.4 (i think; double checking) | 14:45 |
| sdague | mordred: ok, well I'm am having somewhere around a 30% success rate in changing the triage state on bugs right now | 14:45 |
| mordred | ahhhh. that would be a thing that would make since | 14:45 |
| mordred | sdague: jeez | 14:45 |
| jeblair | sdague: chat with ttx, i think he has alternate ways of doing that | 14:46 |
| sdague | mordred: this is why I want to light all canonical people on fire | 14:46 |
| sdague | jeblair: he does | 14:46 |
| jeblair | sdague: i want to say it's using email api? | 14:46 |
| sdague | jeblair: I can't triage 1000 nova bugs via email | 14:46 |
| sdague | that's completely unreasonable interface | 14:46 |
| sdague | at that point we should just delete all bugs in launchpad | 14:46 |
| sdague | this isn't on giant cross linked bugs | 14:47 |
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| sdague | this is on nova only bugs | 14:47 |
| ttx | sdague: yeah.. juno-3 was pretty painful | 14:47 |
| jeblair | sdague: i'm not suggesting it's reasonable, i'm suggesting it's functional. i believe you can bulk edit, so you can do it all in one (or several) emails | 14:47 |
| ttx | Took me like about 40 tries to get the API not to timeout | 14:48 |
| mordred | jeez | 14:48 |
| ttx | AND... | 14:48 |
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| ttx | the email interface trick is not working so well these days. Maybe they closed the loophole | 14:48 |
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| ttx | SO I use awesome tricks | 14:48 |
| ttx | like removing the milestone, setting FixReleased, putting the milestone back | 14:48 |
| ttx | takes about 20 tries each, but in general it works | 14:49 |
| ttx | BY FAR the most painful part of releasing, those days | 14:49 |
| ttx | I was tempted more than once to just remove the task. | 14:49 |
| sdague | mordred: yeh, this is basically beyond the pale. Honestly, we need a communication channel here. | 14:49 |
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| * ttx could use a /v2/i_m_ok_to_wait_forever LP API endpoint | 14:50 | |
| ttx | i still don't get why aggressive timeouts are present on the API side. | 14:50 |
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| ttx | I think that comes with zope territory | 14:51 |
| dkranz | jeblair: I like seeing the jenkins results up top but I no longer see any jenkins results except for the last run. Is there a way to see results from previous patchsets now? | 14:51 |
| jeblair | dkranz: hit the 'toggle ci' button | 14:52 |
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| dkranz | jeblair: Ah, cool. Thanks | 14:52 |
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| ttx | jeblair: still checking out options for the Design Summit. I think Infra could make use of a meetup space on Friday. I was thinking we could share the same room with QA and Release management | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Kurt Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: An alternate recheck syntax for third-party CI systems https://review.openstack.org/118623 | 14:54 |
| ttx | jeblair: with that in mind, would you rather have it last for half a day or the full day ? | 14:54 |
| jeblair | ttx: full day i think | 14:54 |
| ttx | more time, but less potential to join other rooms (and probably smaller space) | 14:55 |
| ttx | jeblair: ok | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix ruby-191-prep to uninstall 1.8 and instal bundler https://review.openstack.org/120116 | 14:56 |
| ttx | jeblair: maybe we'll have less "scheduled sessions" since the informal time is generally better for us | 14:56 |
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| jeblair | ttx: yeah, we will probably establish some structure too, like making sure that qa/infra/release all get to talk about things that are important to us; time-boxing some things to make sure we cover what we need to | 14:58 |
| jroll | jeblair: fwiw, I'd love to switch to storyboard asap for ironic :) | 14:58 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, thanks for the comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118623/ good catch | 14:59 |
| jeblair | ttx: i think that informal things take a bit of time to get going, so i think a full day is better; half would work if we need to -- we'll just need to be efficient about it :) | 14:59 |
| jeblair | jroll: know any angularjs? ;) | 14:59 |
| ttx | jeblair: ack | 14:59 |
| jroll | jeblair: a bit... | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Jamie Finnigan proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Adding Bandit project to StackForge https://review.openstack.org/119865 | 15:00 |
| * jroll runs | 15:00 | |
| jeblair | jroll: in all honesty, i'm as eager as anyone, but switching openstack early could be a really big mess, and i think we only get one shot at it. | 15:01 |
| jroll | jeblair: it's hard to get motivated to work on things I don't use... but I'm happy to help if there's work that needs done | 15:01 |
| jroll | jeblair: yeah... I mean, I'd like ironic to beta test for you :) | 15:01 |
| jeblair | jroll: the other thing is that we do have to switch all of openstack at once; the key feature of both of these systems is cross-project bug tracking | 15:02 |
| jroll | gah, true | 15:02 |
| jeblair | jroll: but krotscheck would _love_ someone else looking at the angular stuff | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | jroll: yes | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | WHat he said | 15:03 |
| jeblair | jroll: and with mordred back <nudge, nudge> we should have infra projects ported over soon | 15:03 |
| jeblair | jroll: which should give us a good chunk of real data to work with. i'm sure we can find ways for infra to mess up ironic. ;) | 15:03 |
| jeblair | and then you could use it for real | 15:03 |
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| jroll | hehe | 15:04 |
| jroll | yeah | 15:04 |
| jeblair | jroll: also, storyboard's bugs are in storyboard, so once you're hacking on it, you'll be set :) | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | Fair wrning, I’m on post-op meds | 15:04 |
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| fungi | i read that as top-post meds | 15:04 |
| jroll | heh | 15:04 |
| mordred | krotscheck: and this is different from normal days how? | 15:04 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: No attention span…..cooikies! | 15:06 |
| mordred | krotscheck: mmm | 15:06 |
| * jroll "borrows" some of krotscheck's cookies | 15:06 | |
| mordred | jeblair: is "migrate infra in" essentially blocked on me saying the migration is ready? | 15:06 |
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| jeblair | mordred: and probably you running it ;) | 15:07 |
| mordred | yah - I'm guessing you want me to check with you before running it though | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to stackforge/gertty: Update alembic requirements https://review.openstack.org/120120 | 15:08 |
| jeblair | mordred: probably so; we might want to talk about what to do with openstack-ci | 15:08 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i lean toward import all the bugs into 'infra/config', then close all of them in lp, but leave the project there to receive elastic-recheck bugs | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool https://review.openstack.org/88479 | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add pre-requisites needed for diskimage-builder https://review.openstack.org/102583 | 15:16 |
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| jroll | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119473/2/devstack-vm-gate.sh | 15:19 |
| jroll | fungi: should I have the dsg variable default to 'True' rather than '1', and set to 'False' to disblae (rather than set to 0) | 15:19 |
| bookwar_ | i see that you install jenkins-job-builder locally on jenkins master, are there any reasons for that? It seems i can just store everything in the repository, check it out every time i need to update jobs and run it from virtualenv (the same way one runs ansible playbooks) | 15:21 |
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| fungi | jroll: on the phone, but left a comment | 15:22 |
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| fungi | jroll: you could do that too if you want | 15:22 |
| jroll | fungi: ok, thanks, wasn't sure what conventions were :) | 15:23 |
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| fungi | jroll: conventions in d-g are "terse but clear/readable" | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed a change to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add option for building Ironic deploy ramdisks https://review.openstack.org/119473 | 15:24 |
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| mordred | bookwar_: that seems more complicated | 15:25 |
| jroll | fungi: cool, fixed :) | 15:25 |
| mordred | bookwar_: we already have a fairly large set of servers on which stuff happens in general, we don't need to optimize in our environment for not installing a python package on a server | 15:26 |
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| fungi | anteaya: pleia2: my post to the tpa ml about disabling the vmware nsx ci account is held for moderation | 15:30 |
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| fungi | grrrlptimeoutsgrrr | 15:32 |
| fungi | seems to be especially bad today | 15:33 |
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| ndipanov | hey guys - anyone can tell me if I can go ahead and rebase 112977 based on zuul | 15:34 |
| ndipanov | the ui seems to suggest it failed a merge, but when I try to rebase it locally there seem to be no conflicts | 15:34 |
| ndipanov | and I'd rather not rebae needlesly if it still stands a chance of making it since it's a 13h+ penalty atm | 15:35 |
| bookwar_ | mordred: but i am thinking about updates: jjb's development is fast, and frequent updates on a server-side give more troubles, while keeping local env up-to-date seems to be easy - just fix the requirements.txt in repository. On the other hand - easy updates => easy errors. | 15:35 |
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| fungi | bookwar_: i think distros package jjb, if you're looking for a stable version to put on your servers... or only install from the releases to pypi rather than every commit in a cd fashion, or... | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | fungi: cleared and hopefully you won't be moderated henceforth | 15:42 |
| fungi | anteaya: okay, cool | 15:42 |
| fungi | anteaya: thanks! | 15:42 |
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| sdake | morning | 15:44 |
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| anteaya | krtaylor: sure | 15:44 |
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| clarkb | ndipanov: zuul/gerrit should only report that you need to rebase if that is the case | 15:53 |
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| clarkb | ndipanov: not gerrit uses jgit not the C git implementation and sometimes it has merge conflicys that C git handles for you. | 15:53 |
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| ndipanov | clarkb, when I hover over the gray circlrcle next to my change it says something about merge conflicts | 15:54 |
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| clarkb | oh is it still in the gate? | 15:54 |
| ndipanov | clarkb, hmmm maybe not anymore let me check | 15:54 |
| ndipanov | clarkb, yes it is | 15:55 |
| ndipanov | and now it's green | 15:55 |
| ndipanov | I mean queued but green | 15:55 |
| fungi | ndipanov: probably there was a change ahead of it in the gate which was in conflict with your change, but then failed out | 15:56 |
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| clarkb | I dont see it but I may be blind | 15:56 |
| ndipanov | fungi, I assumed so but there were really no other nova changes | 15:56 |
| ndipanov | oh well | 15:57 |
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| ndipanov | clarkb, 110957 | 15:57 |
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| clarkb | ya that change should not need a rebase. grey circles means you are outside the window and shouldnt even be checked for merge conflicts hrm | 15:58 |
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| fungi | looks like nodepool may be having trouble building new nodes, just based on the ratio of yellow to magenta on the graph now | 15:59 |
| fungi | checking logs to confirm/diagnose | 16:00 |
| ndipanov | clarkb, fungi anyway - thanks guys! | 16:01 |
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| fungi | ndipanov: yeah, if the circle was gray then it wasn't far enough up the pipeline to begin testing. red or black generally indicate a problem with a test, dependency or merge conflict | 16:03 |
| ndipanov | fungi, ok cool good to knwo | 16:04 |
| fungi | we're seeing a fair number of node launching exceptions, most in rax-dfw | 16:04 |
| fungi | though only on the order of about 1 per minute | 16:04 |
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| fungi | 112 nodes in a building state in dfw right now... that's the majority of its quota | 16:05 |
| fungi | some are building for as much as an hour | 16:06 |
| fungi | 46 in a building state in dfw for between .5 and 1 hour | 16:08 |
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| fungi | looks like the build exceptions are for timeouts in dfw (hitting the one hour mark and then giving up) | 16:09 |
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| fungi | phschwartz: if you're around, we're seeing significant performance issues in dfw, taking more than an hour (maybe indefinitely? that's the point at which we abort) to boot from snapshots | 16:10 |
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| jeblair | sdague: are you using emacs24? i just upgraded to trusty, and i can't seem to set the mark (except using M-x set-mark-command); did you run into anything like that? | 16:12 |
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| jeblair | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs24/+bug/1289570 | 16:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1289570 in emacs24 "Can't set mark (dup-of: 1278569)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:13 |
| jeblair | huh, i wonder if that's it | 16:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1278569 in ibus "ibus breaks emacs and eclipse control-space keybinding" [High,Triaged] | 16:13 |
| homeless | hi guys, I need your help, Im configuring nodepool but im having problems with the private-key, I dont really undestand which key and user should I use | 16:13 |
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| homeless | because my nodes they just created, and then they just got destroyed because they are not able to ssh connect | 16:14 |
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| clarkb | homeless: it should be a key and user created in the images as part of the image build process. | 16:14 |
| clarkb | homeless: in our case we create a jenkins user with authorized_keys file that matches the private key there | 16:14 |
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| homeless | gotcha, thansk clarkb | 16:15 |
| fungi | homeless: for our servers, we "create" it on our images by installing it with a puppet manifest | 16:15 |
| homeless | thanks fungi | 16:15 |
| fungi | so it's not something nodepool magically installs for you. you'll probably need some sort of automation/config management to put it on there | 16:16 |
| fungi | as part of the image creation | 16:16 |
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| homeless | right, thanks | 16:16 |
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| JayF | dhellmann_: I run my unit tests outside of devstack as well... I can run linux in a local VM for unit tests, but devstack is too heavy/slow | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Kurt Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: An alternate recheck syntax for third-party CI systems https://review.openstack.org/118623 | 16:20 |
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| mordred | jeblair: so - I'm working on the nodepool dib sutff | 16:25 |
| mordred | jeblair: and there are several places where teh non-dib codepath does things with hostname but we're not really doing that in the dib path right now | 16:26 |
| mordred | jeblair: actually, I think I grok what I should do | 16:26 |
| mordred | jeblair: thanks for the help! | 16:26 |
| mordred | :) | 16:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: is that for the dns resolution of localhost? | 16:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: iirc nodepool doesn't actually deal with it right because the hostname is not passed as $1 to the scripts | 16:27 |
| clarkb | so it may be somewhat noopy right now | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | fungi: do you want to test if you can post unmoderated to tpa? I have two more ci's that need to be disabled | 16:27 |
| anteaya | fungi: if yes, I'll give you details and if no, I'll just give you names and take care of it myself | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Rename doc environment to docs https://review.openstack.org/119914 | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gertty: Update alembic requirements https://review.openstack.org/120120 | 16:28 |
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| winston-d | jeblair: morning. wondering how i can change the keybinding in gertty. don't really know how 'gertty -k' works | 16:28 |
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| fungi | anteaya: i can disable them for you--that's fast. if you want to write the ml posts though, i'd be grateful. trying to get back to comparing python 3.3->3.4 transition test results | 16:29 |
| jeblair | winston-d: good morning. i think we found and fixed the db problem you were having yesterday; it turns out alembic 0.6.4 is required. | 16:29 |
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| jeblair | winston-d: see git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/gertty/tree/examples/reference-gertty.yaml#n86 | 16:29 |
| winston-d | jeblair: that's awesome! | 16:30 |
| jeblair | winston-d: there's an example there | 16:30 |
| anteaya | dhellmann_: I don't think we have a policy around not posting in -dev, we just never have before so we don't have a precedent | 16:30 |
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| jeblair | winston-d: and gertty -k will give you the list of commands that go on the left hand side (like 'diff' or 'review' in the example) | 16:30 |
| anteaya | dhellmann_: I think others may want to see the changes too, so I think it is worth an ml thread | 16:30 |
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| anteaya | Kiall: thanks | 16:30 |
| jeblair | winston-d: oh wait, that's wrong, 1 second | 16:30 |
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| jeblair | winston-d: "gertty --print-keymap" will do that | 16:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: right. I think we need to to pass the self.dib_image.image_name in at the very least | 16:31 |
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| anteaya | john-davidge: can I get a url of a patch with a IBM SDN-VE CI failure that you have noticed? | 16:32 |
| winston-d | jeblair: thx, that's enough for me to get started. | 16:32 |
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| john-davidge | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112836/ | 16:33 |
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| fungi | now this is downright odd... stackforge/wsme unit tests fail on precise-py3k under py33 right now, but pass on bare-trusty under py34 | 16:35 |
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| clarkb | fungi: huh. perhaps a test order thing and py34 got lucky? | 16:35 |
| clarkb | is py33 wsme job voting? | 16:36 |
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| anteaya | yfried__ clarkb diabled notices for ci's are posted to third-party-announce, archives available at lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/third-party-announce/2014-September/thread.html#1 | 16:36 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, i only analyzed jobs which were voting according to zuul's parsing of the current production layout file | 16:36 |
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| clarkb | fungi: yup looks like its voting | 16:36 |
| clarkb | anteaya: hrm I may not be subscribed like I thought I was | 16:37 |
| anteaya | john-davidge: thanks | 16:37 |
| fungi | the bad news is that my initial findings (repeated the loop twice just to rule out intermittent errors) has 36 jobs which will fail under 3.4 but are working and voting under 3.3 | 16:37 |
| fungi | only 10 of those are stackforge, the rest are official projects | 16:37 |
| clarkb | fungi: wow, that is unexpected. Let me know if you want eyes on debugging | 16:38 |
| anteaya | fungi: kk, I'll get you the names, looks like this might be a ci round up day for me *sigh* | 16:38 |
| fungi | clarkb: will do. i need to manually rerun a few to see if i can spot something common like missing dependencies | 16:38 |
| fungi | clarkb: but if it gets esoteric, i'll bring you up to speed | 16:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: or possibly unset PYTHONHASHSEED? | 16:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Export image name and filename to DIB https://review.openstack.org/120144 | 16:39 |
| mordred | clarkb, jeblair ^^ I think we want that so taht I can duplicate the current functionality of hostname | 16:39 |
| anteaya | john-davidge: well IBM SDN-VE CI gets disable for prompting me to download the logs, rather than being able to read them | 16:39 |
| anteaya | john-davidge: so I can't even see the error you are seeing, since I don't download logs from ci's | 16:40 |
| john-davidge | anteaya: Great, I hate when they do that | 16:40 |
| anteaya | john-davidge: they get disabled if they do | 16:40 |
| anteaya | john-davidge: so if you spot any, bring me a url | 16:40 |
| john-davidge | anteaya: will do! | 16:41 |
| jeblair | mordred: where will that be used? | 16:41 |
| jeblair | oh, like for debugging and stuff | 16:42 |
| jeblair | so we know "this instance was build from this dib filename/image name" ? | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Export image name and filename to DIB https://review.openstack.org/120144 | 16:42 |
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| mordred | yah | 16:42 |
| mordred | and actually, probably more like that for consistency | 16:42 |
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| mordred | although /etc/image-hostname.txt is about to be poorly named ... | 16:43 |
| jeblair | mordred: are you about to push another one, or is that your final patch? ;) | 16:44 |
| mordred | jeblair: that's it | 16:44 |
| anteaya | fungi: 3 to disable: http://paste.openstack.org/show/108963/ ids and reasons in paste | 16:45 |
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| fungi | anteaya: all three accounts are now set to inactive in gerrit | 16:46 |
| anteaya | thank you | 16:46 |
| * anteaya composed emails | 16:46 | |
| anteaya | s/composed/composes | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add config repo split spec https://review.openstack.org/110730 | 16:47 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: that's with layout-dev too ^ sorry about that | 16:47 |
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| clarkb | fungi: any chance you can give me a project that failed py34 but not py33? curious to see if I can reproduce locally | 16:48 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: no problem. should've caught that | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: just as much on the reviewers :) | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | looks like fungi did catch it | 16:49 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep, and my brain function apparently returned two different results on two different invocations :) | 16:50 |
| jeblair | nondeterminism in humans is so ick. | 16:50 |
| clarkb | I am looking at python3.4 change log. there is a lot of stuff but nothing too backward incompatible | 16:51 |
| mordred | jeblair: hrm. did we give any thought as to how ready_script might work with dib images? | 16:51 |
| mordred | jeblair: asking before I read the code in case you have the answer off the top of your head | 16:51 |
| jeblair | mordred: ready_script is used on instances, not images | 16:51 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, http://paste.openstack.org/show/108979 | 16:51 |
| mordred | jeblair: yes - but the scripts have to get onto the image | 16:51 |
| fungi | clarkb: i'm starting at the top with pbr, and am getting a wonderfully opaque failure | 16:51 |
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| fungi | clarkb: nevermind--not at all opaque. we need python3.4-dev | 16:52 |
| mordred | jeblair: maybe same as before, just have dib copy the entire contents of the nodepool scripts dir into the image? | 16:52 |
| jeblair | mordred: ah, i assume we can stick them in as elements or something? if not, we could scp them onto the instance like we do the image scripts (for the current snapshot image build process) | 16:52 |
| fungi | clarkb: fixing and seeing how many of these drop off the failing list now | 16:52 |
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| jeblair | mordred: yeah, if you can have dib copy them in place, that would be the smallest delta | 16:52 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh right because pip | 16:52 |
| mordred | jeblair: k. I'll do that | 16:52 |
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| clarkb | fungi: python3-all-dev is probably what we want for all the things | 16:53 |
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| clarkb | fungi: which has the nice benefit of being future compat with packages in future releases | 16:53 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yep, very good idea | 16:54 |
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| anteaya | BobBall_AWOL: you back? | 16:55 |
| clarkb | fungi: though the package description says it may eventually depend on jython and ironpython at some point :) | 16:56 |
| pleia2 | oof, multihomed and both internet connections are having trouble this morning | 16:56 |
| fungi | clarkb: fun... happybase installation fails with "NameError: name 'execfile' is not defined" | 16:56 |
| clarkb | pleia2: you need to tether off of your phone for maximum redundancy | 16:56 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: haha, perhaps! | 16:56 |
| fungi | clarkb: so ceilometer is breaking on that | 16:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Pass the nodepool scriptdir to disk-image-create https://review.openstack.org/120151 | 16:57 |
| mordred | jeblair: I believe we'll need that too ^^ | 16:57 |
| jeblair | tagged gertty 1.0.2 | 16:57 |
| clarkb | fungi: execfile was removed in 3.0. so ceilometer must not have been passing py3k testing? | 16:58 |
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| clarkb | hrm the job is voting | 16:59 |
| clarkb | that is an odd one | 16:59 |
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| fungi | clarkb: more likely happybase is doing python version detection very poorly and falling back to a 2.x function on 3.4 | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | oh right its in the dependency | 16:59 |
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| jeblair | mordred: lgtm. we should swing back and normalize those variable names at somepoint. | 16:59 |
| fungi | clarkb: ceilo's py33 jobs seem to be working judging from https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-ceilometer-python33/ | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ya | 17:00 |
| clarkb | happybase doesn't seem to claim any py3k support. maybe ceilometer is doing conditional import? | 17:01 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh... could be | 17:01 |
| clarkb | no happybase in the log for py33 jobs linked above | 17:02 |
| fungi | yep | 17:02 |
| clarkb | hrm and they have a py3k requireemtns without happybase in it | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | so maybe a pbr bug? | 17:03 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: how are we handling messages about outages to -announce? let them through? | 17:03 |
| pleia2 | (one about Midokura CI in the queue) | 17:04 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: I'm reading them and if the content is a direct reply to something posted I let it through | 17:04 |
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| pleia2 | ok, this one is not | 17:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think pbr is correct so probably a ceilometer thing | 17:05 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: I don't think Midokura CI is currently down, if it is announcing it will be down hmmmm, that is what this wikipage is designed for: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 17:05 |
| jeblair | pleia2: i don't think -announce is the right place for outage notifications, they should go to -dev. | 17:05 |
| jeblair | and yeah, the wikiu | 17:05 |
| fungi | clarkb: agreed, i'm digging deeper inside ceilometer now | 17:05 |
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| pleia2 | they did update their wiki page | 17:06 |
| pleia2 | so I guess they're just some confusion about where these notifications should go | 17:06 |
| fungi | clarkb: oho, they're one of the projects overriding their testenv:py33 so they need to merge the patch i proposed last week | 17:06 |
| clarkb | :/ | 17:06 |
| anteaya | pleia2: but they haven't changed the row colour to show their status is down: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 17:06 |
| anteaya | pleia2: instructions for which are bullet point four at the bottom of the page | 17:07 |
| anteaya | pleia2: yes, some confusion | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: yeah, they only updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | err | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Midokura_CI | 17:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118770/ | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | Current Status: Down for maintenance | 17:07 |
| anteaya | I'm for having one place for things, not multiple | 17:07 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: great, then that will show in their history, or they can keep a list of status updates like others do | 17:08 |
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| clarkb | fungi: honestly the utility of that seems minimal... but ok | 17:08 |
| pleia2 | so they updated their specific wiki page, and emailed the announce list; they should have updated the ThirdPartySystems page and not emailed anyone? | 17:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: we are running a very restricted set of tests. I imagine the intention was to expand that over time. I wonder how much work is happening on that | 17:08 |
| anteaya | pleia2: update their specific wikipage and ThirdPartySystems and not email anyone, correct | 17:08 |
| fungi | clarkb: well, the utility of that seems to be so as to support their py3k-specific reqs fwr | 17:08 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: ok, so still updating 2 spots, just no email | 17:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: right but it is running a small subset of the tests | 17:09 |
| anteaya | pleia2: the wikipage keeps a history if they need an archive | 17:09 |
| anteaya | pleia2: correct | 17:09 |
| ruhe | hi infra core folks! it seems that meetbot passed away. at least it doesn't change topics in #openstack-meeting-alt | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: got it :) | 17:09 |
| anteaya | pleia2: thanks | 17:09 |
| anteaya | :D | 17:09 |
| fungi | ruhe: checking | 17:09 |
| clarkb | fungi: one file out of all ceilometer/tests | 17:09 |
| ruhe | thanks! | 17:09 |
| jeblair | fungi: looks like it's running, maybe it just lost perms | 17:09 |
| fungi | jeblair: yep, it has | 17:10 |
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| fungi | jeblair: is it supposed to be a chanop or just have topic perms? | 17:12 |
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| fungi | meetbots seem to get +O in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/accessbot/channels.yaml#n25 | 17:13 |
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| ruhe | fungi, jeblair: hooray! you fixed it. thank you | 17:13 |
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| jeblair | fungi: yep. and i think it's missing in all 3 channels. | 17:14 |
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| fungi | jeblair: it is... but the chanserv access list says it has +O granted | 17:14 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'm assuming services got confused after a netsplit and forgot to +o it | 17:15 |
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| fungi | jeblair: that seems most likely | 17:16 |
| fungi | jeblair: anyway, i've restored its mode in all three channels now | 17:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: thanks | 17:17 |
| clarkb | fungi: I poked #openstack-ceilometer about that change | 17:17 |
| anteaya | pleia2: you have all you need then? | 17:17 |
| anteaya | pleia2: I was about to go have a walk | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: yes, I rejected the mail with a friendly message about the proper procedure :) thanks | 17:18 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, once i have a list of projects with outstanding support changes blocking the transition i'll start hounding them doggedly | 17:18 |
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| pleia2 | anteaya: enjoy your walk! | 17:18 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: thanks for doing that, and I hope to | 17:18 |
| anteaya | :D | 17:18 |
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| clarkb | harlowja_away: how is that simplification of taskflow tox.ini files going? | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I really wonder if having all the supporting code (setup.py, tox.ini, run_tests.sh, LICENSE et al) in a git submodule that is shared across projects would make this more sane | 17:20 |
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| mordred | clarkb: doubtful. almost nobody knows how to use submodules | 17:21 |
| JayF | clarkb: what's to prevent projects from never bumping their submodule version just like they don't merge patches sometimes :( | 17:21 |
| clarkb | JayF: we acn have gerrit update them | 17:21 |
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| mordred | JayF: in gerrit, submodules can be set up to be managed by gerrit | 17:22 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ya :( | 17:22 |
| JayF | Aah. | 17:22 |
| mordred | JayF: so taht a commit to the submodule auto-updates ... this is how openstack/openstack works | 17:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: I just we have bascially reimplemented autoconf for tox apparently | 17:22 |
| JayF | Then I really don't like the idea. I would not want my tests/gate broken by gerrit without my interaction | 17:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: really? | 17:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: see taskflow | 17:22 |
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| clarkb | I mean its not super terrible bad but they are using 'toxgen' to explode a giant tox.ini | 17:22 |
| nibalizer | probably easier to write a tool to keep all those files in sync | 17:22 |
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| nibalizer | crinkle: recently wrote that tool for the puppet modules | 17:23 |
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| mordred | clarkb: uhm | 17:23 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yeah we have some tools too. the issue is more on the enforcement side. I can propose a tox.ini file to you, but it is very hard to enforce you use a particular one without overwriting it each time like we do with requirements | 17:23 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I think harlowja_away has a change to stop or reduce the use of it | 17:23 |
| jeblair | yes he does | 17:24 |
| nibalizer | ya isn't that PBR | 17:24 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: no, pbr only touches setup.py stuff and makes it declarative | 17:24 |
| jeblair | mordred: speaking of which, why is customization of the tox ini needed to include a changelog in a docs build? | 17:24 |
| jeblair | mordred: isn't the changelog generated by the tox sdist step, and therefore available to a docs build even in the current 'venv' system? | 17:25 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: so similar problem but with a lot of freedom still | 17:25 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: no because we do not sdist anymore | 17:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I am slowly thinking we should go back to sdisting with tox | 17:25 |
| clarkb | it is slower but ensures we can build sdists and provides all build artifacts to the tox targets | 17:25 |
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| fungi | clarkb: one of the projects i patched the tox.ini for (i forget which... maybe pecan?) carries a fork of toxgen in its tree so you can't regenerate the tox.ini with a normal toxgen either | 17:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add support for disk-image-builder in nodepool https://review.openstack.org/88479 | 17:26 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh. well, can we call pbr.make_me_a_changelog in the docs conf.py? | 17:26 |
| jeblair | mordred: ^? | 17:26 |
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| mordred | clarkb: no | 17:26 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that is probably doable | 17:26 |
| harlowja | clarkb mordred https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118941/ | 17:26 |
| mordred | there is NO REASON to use sdist | 17:26 |
| mordred | we can make the other thing work just fine without doing the sdist thing | 17:26 |
| jeblair | mostly i'm thinking that putting docs build steps in tox.ini feels like the wrong place | 17:26 |
| clarkb | harlowja: thanks | 17:26 |
| harlowja | np | 17:26 |
| mordred | I'll get to fixing pbr so that it does that ... it's about 3 down on the list right now | 17:27 |
| mordred | it's a very easy fix | 17:27 |
| jeblair | (i'm still happy to make the docs PTI change; i just also want building docs to be easy and consistent) | 17:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: what is wrong with sdists? aiui it is still the only install method that is expected to work on all supported platforms | 17:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: they are not needed | 17:27 |
| mordred | and no, pip install . shoudl also work on all supported platforms | 17:27 |
| mordred | the sdist step is not needed for any reason | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | mordred: doesn't pip install . make an sdist? | 17:28 |
| mordred | no | 17:28 |
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| jeblair | mordred: and when you 'pip install .', pbr does not make a changelog? | 17:28 |
| fungi | clarkb: not that i'm inclined to care, but stackforge/gnocchi seems to try to use ConfigParser under 3.4 but configparser (correctly) under 3.3. wonder what craziness they've implemented there | 17:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: interesting | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | fungi: they probably check the minor version when they should check only major version? | 17:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: no, it does not. we could make it if people think that's something they want | 17:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: probably not, just asking :) | 17:29 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, wait! i do care... it's mysql-python doing it on install, not gnocchi | 17:29 |
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| mordred | jeblair: I think the easier thing would be to have build_Sphinx just trigger the "create changelog" step | 17:29 |
| fungi | MySQL-python/se | 17:30 |
| fungi | tup_posix.py", line 2, in <module> | 17:30 |
| fungi | gah, stray newlines | 17:30 |
| jeblair | mordred: explicitly (like in conf.py?) or implicitly? | 17:30 |
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| harlowja | mordred like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119688/ ?? | 17:30 |
| jeblair | mordred: i kind of think that saying "i need a changelog to build docs" in conf.py is reasonable | 17:30 |
| jeblair | (since not everyone needs a changelog to build docs) | 17:30 |
| clarkb | harlowja: so in that tox.ini cleanup. why does [testenv] explicitly list requireemnts that are not in files? | 17:30 |
| mordred | what is conf.py ? | 17:31 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, right... it's contagious https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118821/1/tox.ini | 17:31 |
| mordred | harlowja: yes. exactly like that | 17:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: that change fixes it? | 17:31 |
| mordred | harlowja: except it might be nice for us to include a boolean flag in setup.cfg | 17:32 |
| harlowja | clarkb mainly those things are optional, not strictly required | 17:32 |
| clarkb | harlowja: except you are making them required to do tests | 17:32 |
| clarkb | harlowja: so why not list them in test requireemnts? | 17:32 |
| harlowja | think thats fair, can probably move them | 17:32 |
| mordred | jeblair: not everyone needs that - however, the cost for building docs is so much higher than the cost for writing the changelog - I wonder if we don't just make that the behavior | 17:32 |
| fungi | clarkb: apparently they only import mysql-python in test-requirements.txt but not in test-requirements-py3.txt | 17:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh I see | 17:32 |
| mordred | jeblair: (ultimately, every time we have an option flag for pbr I die inside a little bit) | 17:32 |
| jeblair | mordred: fair enough :) | 17:32 |
| harlowja | clarkb let me move those out of there | 17:33 |
| dhellmann | fungi: I think that fork of toxgen predates toxgen being released standalone (and I think it was WSME first, but maybe pecan has one, too) | 17:33 |
| jeblair | harlowja: you are way ahead of me :) | 17:33 |
| fungi | dhellmann: oho--that 'splains it | 17:33 |
| mordred | harlowja: so, that said - I am +2 on that patch, and I have changed my mind, I do not think we need a config option | 17:34 |
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| harlowja | mordred i tried putting in a [build_sphinx] option, that didn't go so well | 17:34 |
| harlowja | lol | 17:34 |
| harlowja | so i just went back to that easier solution | 17:34 |
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| jeblair | mordred: is there ever a case where pbr would delete uncommitted files from my working tree? | 17:34 |
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| clarkb | fungi: find any other major headaches beyond those projects needing tox.ini changes? | 17:37 |
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| fungi | clarkb: keystonemiddleware hung and started complaining about urllib3 timeouts, signing errors and system time being way off (which i confirmed in another shell on the same system was not the case) | 17:38 |
| fungi | os-apply-config fails inside a test (possibly a nondeterminism?) | 17:39 |
| clarkb | wow | 17:40 |
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| clarkb | I can give os-apply-config a run to see if it is consistent | 17:40 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm waiting for the loop to complete and then i'll have a short-list we can iterate more tightly over | 17:40 |
| fungi | but feel free to get a head start on one if you like | 17:41 |
| clarkb | the urllib3 thing is odd. I wonder if they are mocking/patching time.time | 17:41 |
| fungi | seems possible | 17:42 |
| fungi | it was like the tests for keystonemiddleware had hung indefinitely, which i don't think i saw on earlier passes | 17:42 |
| fungi | so am eager to try to reproduce that | 17:42 |
| clarkb | FAIL: os_apply_config.tests.test_apply_config.OSConfigApplierTestCase.test_load_list_from_json | 17:43 |
| clarkb | with no JSON object could be decoded messages | 17:43 |
| fungi | yep. that's the one i was hitting | 17:43 |
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| clarkb | ERROR:os-apply-config:cannot interpret value 'foo' as type int may be the underlying cause | 17:44 |
| clarkb | oh I see | 17:44 |
| clarkb | they are asserting an error message | 17:44 |
| fungi | hah, which possibly changed | 17:44 |
| clarkb | but the error message seems to have changed. that seems... gfragile | 17:44 |
| clarkb | should just assert it failed imo | 17:44 |
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| dteselkin | Hi, I need an advice about my commit to openstack-infra | 17:47 |
| dteselkin | It's here https://review.openstack.org/118660 | 17:47 |
| fungi | clarkb: whilst you're bringing that to their attention, os-collect-config is also breaking | 17:47 |
| clarkb | fungi: kk, will look at that one too | 17:48 |
| dteselkin | The problem is that there is another commit with similar functionality, here https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 17:48 |
| dteselkin | So I would like to know, what should I with mine - abandon it or let the reviewers decide? | 17:49 |
| fungi | dteselkin: you should probably discuss it with nibalizer (he's the author of the other patch) | 17:49 |
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| dteselkin | fungi, ok, thanks! | 17:50 |
| clarkb | dteselkin: fungi nibalizer it is probably reasonable for nibalizer to rebase his change on your change since 118660 is a bit more specific | 17:50 |
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| clarkb | fungi: wow the keystonemiddleware system time error is fun :) | 17:51 |
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| ryanpetrello | dhellmann: fungi: pecan doesn't use toxgen, | 17:53 |
| ryanpetrello | WSME does | 17:53 |
| ryanpetrello | (unless somebody snuck it in when I wasn't looking) | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add config repo split spec https://review.openstack.org/110730 | 17:54 |
| dhellmann | ryanpetrello: ok, I couldn't remember if you'd used it for the extra configurations you were testing or not | 17:54 |
| bknudson | has anyone seen this before? during gate glance-manage isn't installed | 17:54 |
| bknudson | http://logs.openstack.org/29/119629/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/f6e1480/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2014-09-09_17_39_20_564 | 17:54 |
| fungi | ryanpetrello: that was probably the one i was remembering then | 17:54 |
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| SlickNik | Can I get some eyeballs on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105692/ when folks get a chance? Trying to get trove CI off of rdjenkins. Thanks much! | 17:55 |
| jeblair | SlickNik: you said all the right things to get my attention :) | 17:57 |
| jeblair | SlickNik: lgtm | 17:57 |
| fungi | SlickNik: spotted an error. see inline | 17:58 |
| clarkb | bknudson: it looks like the install_glance step failed without failing hard http://logs.openstack.org/29/119629/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/f6e1480/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2014-09-09_17_34_26_918 | 17:58 |
| SlickNik | fungi: just saw it. Nicely spotted. Will follow up with an update right now. | 17:59 |
| clarkb | fungi: with the eagle eyes | 17:59 |
| bknudson | clarkb: ah, that's tricky! | 17:59 |
| fungi | SlickNik: other than that, looks ready to approve | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikhil Manchanda proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fixed gate-trove-functional-dsvm jobs https://review.openstack.org/105692 | 18:01 |
| fungi | oslo.rootwrap looks like it also has a test issue | 18:02 |
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| fungi | FAIL: tests.test_rootwrap.RootwrapTestCase.test_RootwrapConfig | 18:02 |
| fungi | ValueError: Unexpected syslog_log_level: INFO | 18:02 |
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| clarkb | fungi: os-apply-config fix pushed | 18:05 |
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| clarkb | running collect-config tests now | 18:06 |
| fungi | clarkb: awesome. hopefully i'll have a more accurate list shortly, and then i'll etherpad it with links to pending tox.ini changes and other fixes | 18:06 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I am not convinced collect-config should pass under py33 either. it does locale.getlocale(locale.LC_ALL) which the docs say is a no no | 18:13 |
| fungi | clarkb: good point... let me see if it actually did | 18:14 |
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| fungi | clarkb: you're right... the paste i linked earlier didn't have it in the list | 18:15 |
| fungi | clarkb: which means it's failing on 3.3 as well. presumably they turned the job to voting without confirming it worked | 18:15 |
| clarkb | possibly | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | fungi: though the py2.7 docs say the same thing | 18:19 |
| clarkb | so I am not sure what is going on there but I think we can ignore it ;) | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | doc build question: Now that we do a full pypi mirror, if I have a package I only need for my documentation build, can I just add it to tox.ini instead of test-requirements.txt? Or do I still need that to go through the global requirements list and test-requirements.txt? | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | I should say that's for a sphinx job in something like a specs repo or project repo | 18:19 |
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| clarkb | dhellmann: technically you can avoid global requirements. However, the docs builds are potentially important to packagers (for man pages in particular) and should probably go through global reqs | 18:20 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: ok, that's a good point I hadn't thought of | 18:20 |
| dhellmann | I'm looking into how to add RSS feeds to the specs repos, and didn't want to go through the global requirements just for that, but it sounds like I need to. | 18:21 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: you can probably do the two things in parallel | 18:22 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: yeah, I'll get it working and then submit all the parts at once I think | 18:22 |
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| nibalizer | dteselkin: i dont really care, i kinda prefer my way of doing it but it doesn't really matter | 18:26 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: I think I prefer your way too. I don't like that case statement bceause it splits the handling of the pin values into two locations | 18:28 |
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| nibalizer | also its basically just an if statement | 18:28 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: that bothers me less. I just don't want to have to remember to update two locations when fixing the next dep | 18:31 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: glad I am not the only selfish one around here | 18:32 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: you have merge conflict detritus in that patchset | 18:33 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: jenkins is unhappy with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105692/ which is a shame since it was +A'd | 18:34 |
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| SlickNik | anteaya: The "fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer' strikes again. :( | 18:34 |
| jeblair | looks like hpcloud-b5 this time | 18:35 |
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| fungi | SlickNik: just in case you needed proof that neutron isn't just broken when being tested... ;) | 18:35 |
| clarkb | fungi: the rootwrap failure is subtle. I think it has to do with how getlevelname works across versions? I am still digging | 18:35 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: oops! | 18:35 |
| SlickNik | fungi: lol | 18:35 |
| fungi | clarkb: cool | 18:35 |
| jeblair | fungi, clarkb, mordred: i got word our routers have been moved; i'm going to double check the output i was sent, then re-enable b1 and b2 | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 18:36 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sounds good | 18:36 |
| fungi | jeblair: w00t! | 18:36 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: good catch, fixed now | 18:36 |
| fungi | clarkb: thankfully i'm seeing a lot more successes now that the dev headers are installed | 18:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: while the iron is hot, do you want to create routers 6-9? | 18:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: then we can go aheand and ask that they be placed? | 18:37 |
| SlickNik | fungi / anteaya: What's the recommended course of action in this case? Is there a bug to recheck such network issues against? | 18:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: is that something we want to go ahead and do? I can create them if so | 18:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: wasn't sure if the image question was settled | 18:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i don't think we want to use them, but there's no harm in creating them, right? | 18:38 |
| clarkb | oh good point | 18:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: im mostly just thinking while we've got rick on the line and thinking about this :) | 18:38 |
| fungi | SlickNik: top one at http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ right now, unfortunately | 18:38 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yup | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Reduce hpcloud-b1 and b2 usage to 0" https://review.openstack.org/120178 | 18:39 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, mordred: ^ | 18:39 |
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| SlickNik | fungi: thanks | 18:40 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: 6 is done | 18:47 |
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| clarkb | 7 is done | 18:51 |
| clarkb | 8 is done | 18:52 |
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| clarkb | 9 is done. | 18:52 |
| ekarlso- | phschwartz: around ? :) | 18:53 |
| clarkb | the process is create new subnet, create new network on that subnet, create new router, attach router to external gateway, give router interface on new subnet created | 18:53 |
| clarkb | brb should be back before meeting | 18:53 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: ack; requested moves for 6-9 | 18:56 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: I think you need to make the network first | 18:56 |
| sc68cal | then the subnet | 18:56 |
| jeblair | i reckon it's about meeting time | 19:00 |
| fungi | i reckon so | 19:00 |
| jeblair | when keystone finishes | 19:00 |
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| lifeless | sdague: all openstack bugs or just nova? multi-task bugs or nova alone? | 19:01 |
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| lifeless | sdague: and what change is it making? | 19:02 |
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| mordred | lifeless: just nova alone | 19:05 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: oh ok | 19:05 |
| mordred | lifeless: trying to set state to triaged | 19:05 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: I used horizon because this is one of thsoe things I will never get right via the client | 19:05 |
| lifeless | ok | 19:05 |
| lifeless | so the reason the timeout is there is to protect the system from long locks | 19:06 |
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| mordred | yah. I thought I remembered that as being the reason | 19:06 |
| lifeless | a 5s query is 5s of locks held across all involved objects (read locks on referenced tables, write locks on mutated tables) | 19:06 |
| lifeless | 5s API call I mean | 19:06 |
| lifeless | if the timeout is raised it quickly increases the number of interactions of such locks, which cascades to make other operations slow etc | 19:07 |
| lifeless | when I was working on driving it down we drove it down slowly at the 99th or higher percentile so that we didn't destroy the site for everyone | 19:08 |
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| lifeless | if you're seeing 1 in 3 writes timeout thats exceptional; the known bad spots in bugs are | 19:08 |
| lifeless | or were | 19:08 |
| lifeless | large subscriber lists | 19:09 |
| lifeless | (notifications are partially processed in-line [eek I know - I had a service planned]) | 19:09 |
| lifeless | and multi-task bugs | 19:09 |
| lifeless | wgrant will be up in a few hours and I'll ask him to poke at the stats a little | 19:09 |
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| fungi | lifeless: i've discovered more and more things trhat influence subscriber lists. recently i had a cinder-only bug i couldn't update the privacy on without first removing its only tag | 19:11 |
| jamielennox | keystoneclient is looking to spawn out some of it's more difficult auth plugins into seperate repos. should these look to live in the openstack/ namespace or go to stackforge? | 19:11 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: are they still intended to be owned by the keystone team? | 19:17 |
| jamielennox | mordred: yes | 19:17 |
| mordred | jamielennox: then openstack | 19:17 |
| jamielennox | mordred: cheers | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, cool jamielennox beat me to the question | 19:17 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, thanks! | 19:17 |
| mordred | jamielennox: also, does this mean that keystoneclient won't need lxml anymore???? (/me waits in anticipation) | 19:17 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: different repo to the one we are discussing but yes, same idea | 19:18 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, well............ | 19:18 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, hopefully... but it needs some documentation so we can not break people "oh if you're using this, install this new package" | 19:18 |
| jamielennox | not sure what sort of issue we'll have with compatibility there | 19:18 |
| mordred | I thnk keystoneclient only needs lxml to support saml - which is a feature that not everyone using keystoneclient needs ... | 19:18 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i *think* we can get away with it. | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, ++ | 19:19 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: afaik it's mostly cern anyway | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, right. | 19:19 |
| mordred | and tim bell is smart | 19:19 |
| jamielennox | so long as we don't accidently crash the collider or anything | 19:19 |
| jamielennox | i'd feel really bad | 19:19 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: oh, btw - I'm sure you know this, but it's not possible to auth with keystoneclient and then pass a token in to cinderclient | 19:19 |
| mordred | morganfainberg: I think mainly because bunny rabbits hate me | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ^? | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | mordred, that seems... weird. | 19:20 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i've got it working via sessions, i don't know about a token directly | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, ah something we probably need to look at. | 19:20 |
| jamielennox | i can't remember what OSC does | 19:20 |
| mordred | jamielennox: oh - neat. is there code I can look at to see how I shoudl do that? OSC? | 19:21 |
| jamielennox | mordred: the cinderclient hasn't had a release with sessions afaik | 19:21 |
| jamielennox | osc = openstackclient | 19:21 |
| mordred | jamielennox: because I'm doinga thing in ansible and I would love for all auth paths to go direct to keystoneclient | 19:21 |
| mordred | jamielennox: nod | 19:21 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: I kind of use it here: https://github.com/jamielennox/nova/blob/session-test/nova/volume/cinder.py | 19:23 |
| jamielennox | relies on things in keystoneclient master and cinderclient master | 19:23 |
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| jamielennox | also involves hacking around a lot of old assumptions | 19:24 |
| itziikb | mordred: ping | 19:24 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: looking in session.py - I don't see anyway to pass in username/password - am I missing something stupid? | 19:26 |
| mordred | itziikb: sup? | 19:26 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: session takes an auth plugin as a parameter, auth plugins are in keystoneclient/auth | 19:27 |
| jamielennox | you probably want auth.identity.v2.Password(username, password) | 19:27 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: you're going to love me over the next few minutes ... | 19:28 |
| mordred | jamielennox: ok - so Password makes sense ... now where do things like auth_url and region_name go? | 19:29 |
| mordred | gah | 19:29 |
| itziikb | mordred: Just wondered if I was mistaken | 19:29 |
| mordred | jamielennox: ok - so Password makes sense ... now where do things like tenant_id and region_name go? | 19:29 |
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| jamielennox | tenant_id is passed to password as well | 19:30 |
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| jamielennox | region_name is still a client parameter, we don't use that in auth at all | 19:30 |
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| mordred | kk | 19:31 |
| jamielennox | auth_url is also a Password param | 19:31 |
| mordred | AH | 19:31 |
| jamielennox | mordred: are you loading this from ansible/oslo.conf/cli? | 19:31 |
| ekarlso- | fungi: u know where phschwartz is hiding ? ;) | 19:31 |
| fungi | ekarlso-: how would i know? | 19:32 |
| mordred | I see. tenant_id comes from the Auth superclass | 19:32 |
| ekarlso- | just wondered :D | 19:32 |
| fungi | nope, no idea | 19:32 |
| mordred | jamielennox: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/8924 | 19:32 |
| mordred | jamielennox: I'm not doing full keystoneclient for auth yet ... but I would like to get that patch there | 19:33 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: https://github.com/emonty/ansible/blob/features/all-the-nova/lib/ansible/module_utils/openstack.py#L195 | 19:33 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: so ideally i'd say don't take username/password as params there at all and accept a session object | 19:34 |
| mordred | jamielennox: yah. I think once I understand session a little better, I can make all of that code betterer | 19:35 |
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| jamielennox | lets you do more funky things like auth_plugin = keystoneclient.auth.load_from_conf_options(CONF) | 19:35 |
| jamielennox | session = keystoneclient.session.Session.load_from_conf_options(CONF, auth=auth_plugin) | 19:35 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: let's ease back on the colourful cursing | 19:36 |
| jamielennox | standardizes options | 19:36 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: sure | 19:37 |
| nibalizer | my bad | 19:38 |
| berendt | can somebody please check why the openstackgerritbot is offline? | 19:38 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: thank you | 19:38 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: you have such great phrases for things without the cursing anyway | 19:39 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: I like it far better | 19:39 |
| fungi | berendt: probably freenode is struggling, but i'll restart it and try to get it to reconnect | 19:39 |
| berendt | fungi: thanks | 19:39 |
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| jogo | jeblair: any news on the HP public cloud networking issues? | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add bare-f20 nodes https://review.openstack.org/117397 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Get postgresql puppet from upstream master https://review.openstack.org/117396 | 19:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Teselkin proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Pin pupppetdb-terminus package https://review.openstack.org/118660 | 19:42 |
| anteaya | jogo: we are having our weekly meeting | 19:43 |
| jogo | anteaya: oh right | 19:43 |
| fungi | jogo: we're pinning routers to distinct neutron controllers as a next attempt, though it sounds like it could be resource starvation from random misbehaving neighbor tenants | 19:44 |
| jogo | fungi: interesting | 19:45 |
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| jogo | arosen: ^ ohh neutron | 19:45 |
| jamielennox | mordred: http://www.jamielennox.net/blog/2014/02/24/client-session-objects/ is fairly old now but might be useful in understanding | 19:46 |
| jogo | jamielennox: you work on the openstack SDK right? | 19:46 |
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| jamielennox | jogo: i'm involved | 19:46 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: so got a question, in nova some filtering options (such as filter servers by name) are regex and some are string matching | 19:47 |
| jogo | jamielennox: does the SDK have a way of helping the user distinguish which is which | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add yasfb for making RSS feeds in docs https://review.openstack.org/120199 | 19:48 |
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| jamielennox | jogo: this is the first i've heard about being able to pass regexp to nova filters honestly | 19:49 |
| jamielennox | you can actually pass an expression as a query filter? | 19:49 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: yup! | 19:50 |
| jogo | jamielennox: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119081/ | 19:51 |
| jamielennox | jogo: so i guess there are two options, first we treat it as any old string parameter and pass it through as normal | 19:52 |
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| jamielennox | second we look for a regexp object and convert to string (which i don't know if that's any more beneficial than just being a string) | 19:53 |
| jogo | jamielennox: that doesn't work because regex does substring matching | 19:53 |
| jogo | if I have servers named: {bob,bobby,john} and I regex filter based on "bob" I get {bob,bobby | 19:53 |
| jamielennox | but i don't think SDK has gotten sufficiently far to deal with anything that's not passed all the way through | 19:54 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: passed all the way through? | 19:54 |
| jamielennox | jogo: a string that user inputs into a client object which we just print back out in the URL | 19:56 |
| jogo | jamielennox: the regex work that way | 19:56 |
| jogo | jamielennox: but they are regex not strings | 19:57 |
| jogo | so as a user I need to be able to identify what is a regex and what isn't so the substring matching doesn't get me | 19:57 |
| dkranz | Does any one know how long we are keeping log files in logstash now? | 19:57 |
| fungi | apparently we have some leaks in some unit tests... my py34 test node eventually gummed up with a python and java (zookeeper?) processes chewing up all available memory | 19:57 |
| jamielennox | jogo: if this is a server side filter - what do i need to do on the client side? | 19:57 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: have a way for the user to know which is which | 19:58 |
| jogo | jamielennox: so I can use it properly | 19:58 |
| jamielennox | wouldn't the user be giving me that filter initially? | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | dkranz 10 days | 20:02 |
| dkranz | clarkb: thanks. Makes it tough to see very-low-probability race bugs but I know it is all we can do | 20:03 |
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| fungi | clarkb: did you try running py34 for keystonemiddleware and did it hang indefinitely for you or eventually complete? | 20:04 |
| jogo | jamielennox: yes but as a user how do I know which fitler is regex and which is simple string? | 20:04 |
| jogo | jamielennox: shouldn't there be a way to discover that via the client | 20:05 |
| fungi | clarkb: actually, watching top, i predict it's in a memory-gobbling loop and will eventually get oom'd | 20:06 |
| jamielennox | jogo: oh - you want a way to know which parameters on the server will accept a regex filter? | 20:06 |
| jogo | jamielennox: yup | 20:06 |
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| clarkb | fungi ya I ^C'd it | 20:07 |
| jamielennox | ok - no we don't have anything like that anywhere AFAIK, including existing clients | 20:07 |
| jamielennox | jogo: how does nova export this information? | 20:07 |
| clarkb | same with rootwrap | 20:07 |
| jogo | jamielennox: it doesn't really | 20:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: but rootwrap had that weird logging thing which I am still digging into | 20:09 |
| jogo | jamielennox: so my understanding of the SDK effort is to build a framework that can be used to write a better nova python client | 20:09 |
| jamielennox | jogo: there's nothing really about our discovery that would allow this atm, is nova going to look at jsonhome? | 20:09 |
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| fungi | clarkb: so the list of failing jobs is whittled down to 17, but a few of those were dying because the machine was basically out of memory so i'm rerunning those now to trim the list further | 20:09 |
| jogo | jamielennox: in which case the person writing the python-novalcient based on the SDK can code it in | 20:09 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: but I may be missing something about the SDK | 20:09 |
| jamielennox | jogo: not really, SDK is a user facing project it's a way to make a full openstack client library rather than have to deal with all the disjoin -clients | 20:10 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: ahh so how do you do discovery now? | 20:10 |
| jamielennox | there is a lot of stuf going on in the keystoneclient and session around discovery | 20:10 |
| jamielennox | however we only really do version detection | 20:10 |
| jamielennox | so there are a couple of things in keystoneclient where you can make a request and say it requires API version 3.3 and if it's not present it raises an error without making a request | 20:11 |
| jamielennox | (in truth the first real commands doing that are in review now) | 20:11 |
| jogo | jamielennox: ahh anyway I don't have answer on how this should work | 20:11 |
| jogo | jamielennox: I more wanted to raise this use case so you are aware of it | 20:12 |
| jamielennox | jogo: so jsonhome allows you to specify parameters regarding the URLs you call | 20:12 |
| jogo | jamielennox: interesting, so we can use that for service discovery? | 20:12 |
| jamielennox | a common example is that this URL accepts application/json, application/xml so you can set your Accept in advance | 20:12 |
| jamielennox | yes | 20:12 |
| jamielennox | keystone should have jsonhome support for juno | 20:13 |
| jogo | jamielennox: neat do you have a link to that? | 20:13 |
| jamielennox | i don't know yet exactly how we are going to consume it | 20:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: the rootwrap failure is a test checking that logging.getlevelname(lvl) doesn't return the default string back | 20:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: on py27 it works, supposedly on py33 it works, but in py34 passing in INFO returns "Level: INFO" instead of INFO the object | 20:13 |
| clarkb | er rather instead of the string repr | 20:14 |
| clarkb | so I am wondering if possibly the repr changed? | 20:14 |
| jamielennox | jogo: this is one of the patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111576/ | 20:14 |
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| jamielennox | there are a number to do the whole thing - but the keystone implemenation is kind of messy because we have a crappy wsgi layer | 20:15 |
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| jamielennox | i think looking up the jsonhome standard is a better start and figure out how that fits in with nova | 20:15 |
| jogo | jamielennox: so we are missing a step here | 20:16 |
| jogo | jamielennox: trying to have all OpenStack services agree to standardize around X | 20:16 |
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| jamielennox | jogo: i tried that maybe a year ago, people mostly still did there own thing | 20:17 |
| jogo | so we have a more unified API experience. | 20:17 |
| jogo | jamielennox: heh yeah we don't have the forum to do that yet | 20:17 |
| dprince | jeblair: hi, any chance you think this could merge this week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112331/ | 20:17 |
| jogo | jamielennox: hopefully if we can solve the forum issue in Kilo and make this one of the first things to tackle | 20:17 |
| jamielennox | jogo: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VersionDiscovery was just an attempt to standardize all the services - it wasn't really an improvement | 20:17 |
| jogo | jamielennox: I mainly wanted to let you know about the existence of regex filtering params | 20:17 |
| jamielennox | jogo: the advantage of jsonhome is that it's not our standard, if we say you should use jsonhome if a service doesn't implement it correctly then it's a bug | 20:18 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: ++ | 20:18 |
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| jamielennox | jogo: no, we don't have that sort of options yet. We can do certain things like if the nova API version < X.X then error without making the request | 20:19 |
| fungi | clarkb: is oslo.rootwrap py34 hanging for you too or does it eventually return? | 20:19 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: thats a really good first step and once we get micro versioning in ... | 20:19 |
| jamielennox | but the SDK project isn't there yet | 20:19 |
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| jamielennox | jogo: yep, was surprised nova didn't do that | 20:19 |
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| jogo | jamielennox: hehe | 20:19 |
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| jamielennox | keystone, glance and cinder do | 20:20 |
| jamielennox | haven't looked further than tha | 20:20 |
| jamielennox | t | 20:20 |
| clarkb | fungi: it hangs too | 20:20 |
| fungi | ok, thx | 20:20 |
| clarkb | fungi: on the second thing which is test eventlet which won't work on python3 | 20:20 |
| clarkb | fungi: so not completely sure how py33 is/was working | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | oh wit there is a py33 target | 20:20 |
| clarkb | fungi: did you write a py34 target change for it? | 20:20 |
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| clarkb | still fails on loglevel thing but no hanging | 20:21 |
| fungi | clarkb: ahh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118792/1/tox.ini | 20:22 |
| clarkb | logging.getLevelName(logging.INFO) works properly under python3.4 so this must be an actualy rootwrap thing | 20:22 |
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| clarkb | oh I see | 20:23 |
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| clarkb | logging.getLevelName('INFO') returns 20 on py2.7 and 'Level: INFO' under py34. I don't have py33 handy without getting on a test slave | 20:24 |
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| fungi | 'INFO' | 20:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: woo and that is an undocumented py3.4 or I can find where it is documented if it was documented | 20:26 |
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| fungi | actually, when i test that on 3.4 manually i also get 'INFO' (not 'Level: INFO') | 20:27 |
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| clarkb | fungi: huh | 20:27 |
| clarkb | http://paste.openstack.org/show/109079/ is what I get | 20:28 |
| fungi | http://paste.openstack.org/show/109080/ | 20:28 |
| fungi | aha, i was testing the wrong thing | 20:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: what does getLevelName('INFO') do on py33? | 20:28 |
| fungi | yeah, on 3.3 it's 20 and on 3.4 it's 'Level INFO' | 20:29 |
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| fungi | so that does indeed appear to be a legit 3.3->3.4 stdlib behavior change | 20:30 |
| clarkb | weirdness | 20:30 |
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| fungi | goes from <class 'int'> to <class 'str'> for the return type | 20:31 |
| clarkb | the logging docs don't seem to say anything different so this must just be a code change | 20:31 |
| * clarkb tries to find python logging change log | 20:31 | |
| openstackgerrit | David Stanek proposed a change to openstack-dev/pbr: Adds option for excluding files from autodoc trees https://review.openstack.org/120216 | 20:31 |
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| clarkb | wow it is incredibly hard to understand where the actual python code lives | 20:32 |
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| clarkb | but I assume hg.python.org is what I want | 20:33 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed a change to stackforge/dox: Add option to keep test image https://review.openstack.org/120217 | 20:35 |
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| clarkb | Alex_Gaynor: you broke it | 20:43 |
| clarkb | http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5629bf4c6bba?revcount=60 can I demand a fix? | 20:44 |
| fungi | clarkb: demand a refund | 20:44 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | fungi, clarkb: Yeah, you can have every penny you paid back :-) | 20:46 |
| clarkb | perfect | 20:46 |
| fungi | clarkb: so far what we know is recorded at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py34-transition though lines 21-23 are still not done rerunning yet so could have been from my earlier oom situation | 20:46 |
| clarkb | Alex_Gaynor: so how do you suppose we deal with this? has ship sailed on changing ti again in python and we should deal with it in oslo.rootwrap? | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add non-voting gate-git-review-python34 job https://review.openstack.org/119964 | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add Python 3.4 and PyPy to Ubuntu Trusty slaves https://review.openstack.org/118859 | 20:47 |
| clarkb | also we should at least document that change imo | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Switch sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi to python-jobs https://review.openstack.org/118860 | 20:47 |
| Alex_Gaynor | clarkb: it's been a while since I did this, but yeah, this change was really supposed to just be cleaning up some internals, the fact that it effected public things is really a bug in them IMO, relying on implementation details | 20:47 |
| Alex_Gaynor | it's definitely unlikely to be reverted | 20:47 |
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| fungi | Alex_Gaynor: clarkb: it's the overheating spacebar | 20:47 |
| Alex_Gaynor | A+ | 20:48 |
| fungi | http://xkcd.com/1172/ | 20:48 |
| clarkb | Alex_Gaynor: I dunno the docs seem pretty clear. I think the public thing broke and is broken right now | 20:48 |
| clarkb | and either we fix internals or change the doc | 20:48 |
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| dims_ | fungi: great one! | 20:49 |
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| fungi | i'm supposed to go find some food, then i'll come back and bang my head against the list a while longer | 20:49 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 20:50 |
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| mrodden | ugh | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Remove fingerprint for bug 1291605 https://review.openstack.org/120220 | 20:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1291605 in nova "unit test test_create_instance_with_networks_disabled race fail" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1291605 | 20:52 |
| mrodden | http://pypi.openstack.org/simple/Flask-RESTful/ works but http://pypi.openstack.org/simple/flask-restful/ doesn't | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed a change to stackforge/dox: Add option to keep test container https://review.openstack.org/120217 | 20:52 |
| mrodden | pypi.python.org apparently is case-insensitive | 20:53 |
| mrodden | e.g. https://pypi.python.org/simple/flask-restful/ | 20:53 |
| clarkb | mrodden: I think that is correct. pip is supposed to normalize for you or some such | 20:54 |
| mrodden | so the url canonicalization (word?) is done by pip? | 20:54 |
| clarkb | mrodden: yes, though this is new iirc | 20:54 |
| mrodden | i suppose that makes sense | 20:54 |
| clarkb | mrodden: the problem with doing it server side is that it means anyone running a mirror would have to do it too | 20:55 |
| mrodden | just weird that the behavior of bandersnatch mirrors is different than pypi upstream | 20:55 |
| clarkb | mrodden: or the client can just do it | 20:55 |
| mrodden | yeah | 20:55 |
| clarkb | mrodden: bandersnatch does no normalization | 20:55 |
| mrodden | was super confused and thought bandersnatch was broken | 20:55 |
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| * clarkb works on a rootwrap patch to ask for more forgiveness rather than doing error checking | 20:59 | |
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| mordred | mrodden: patches are coming to both pip and bandersnatch to help this | 21:05 |
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| dougwig | hi infra, has anyone ever considered modifying zuul to retry jobs on failure, before commenting? or is there a known way to do that today? | 21:08 |
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| clarkb | dougwig: I don't think that is a use case that we have considered. we expect tests to pass every time. passing half the time is still a failure | 21:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/120228 so thats a major hack to deal with the log level thing | 21:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: not sure I am happy with it | 21:13 |
| mrodden | mordred: what are they patching exactly? | 21:14 |
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| clarkb | dougwig: are you wanting this behavior for a third party zuul or a zuul that has nothing to do with openstack? | 21:16 |
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| clarkb | dougwig: a different way to achieve that behavior is to encode it in the test directly | 21:16 |
| dougwig | third-party. you're totally right. i just get occasionally failures because pypi connresets, or the backend has a rare core, and i don't like putting a failure in gerrit when it has nothing to do with openstack code. | 21:17 |
| dougwig | /occasionally/occasional/ | 21:17 |
| mordred | mrodden: they are going to make pip normalize case and -/_ first before it makes a request | 21:18 |
| mordred | mrodden: and I believe it will make bandersnatch write out two dirs - one normalized, and one as received | 21:18 |
| mrodden | ic | 21:18 |
| mrodden | should just ban caps in URLs | 21:18 |
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| mrodden | doesn't make for the best migration story though | 21:19 |
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| anteaya | dougwig: good instincts | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120228/1 a juno or kilo fix? | 21:20 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: it is a juno fix hopefully. part of the py34 push | 21:20 |
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| reed | just FYI, since mikal asked during the meeting, you can resign from Foundation membership https://www.openstack.org/profile/resign/ | 21:21 |
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| anteaya | reed great | 21:25 |
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| Morgan_ | reed: interesting. It never occurred to me someone would want to resign. | 21:25 |
| jeblair | reed, fungi, mordred: so actually that means that we *currently* have the same problem that we would have by decoupling cla signing and foundation membership | 21:26 |
| anteaya | though how do we access the list of people who have resigned for the purposes of the election roll? | 21:26 |
| jeblair | reed, fungi, mordred: namely, that we need to correlate the set of contributors with the set of individual members for election purposes | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: it would help me if there was a bug # associated with it, are you tracking any of that work with bugs or blueprints? | 21:26 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 21:26 |
| reed | jeblair, it just dawned on me that we will have a different set of people soon | 21:26 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: its part of the modernize infra work we do every time lts release happens | 21:26 |
| jeblair | reed, fungi, mordred: so anyway, maybe we should get started on brainstorming that soon | 21:26 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: its less about bugs and blueprints and more about things just have to work | 21:26 |
| reed | jeblair, the 'resign' button is new, like yesterday | 21:26 |
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| reed | jeblair, and it comes because some people have never voted therefore will loose their rigths to election | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: ok, I just don't want it to fall off the review radar, which I've finally gotten organized on launchpad | 21:27 |
| jeblair | reed: ya | 21:27 |
| reed | everything goes back into the horrible delay of launching openstackid.org | 21:27 |
| * reed sighs | 21:28 | |
| jeblair | reed: i think that's all quite separate, actually :) | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: we have so many different repos to review, we're trying to use launchpad to help identify the priority items | 21:28 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: gotcha | 21:28 |
| reed | probably it is, would make me feel better :) | 21:28 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: I hate asking for paperwork... | 21:28 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: hoepfully fungi will fill us in when he gets back | 21:28 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: ok, thanks | 21:29 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: unfortunately, for technical reasons, opening infra bugs against all of the projects in launchpad is a bad idea at this point | 21:29 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: the ones we have done in the past we are unable to change status for | 21:29 |
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| anteaya | so as of right now, since there are no access points for infra to read the list of those who resign, it is possible that the electoral roll this election might be inaccurate | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: yeah, I remember that | 21:30 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py34-transition is a summary that fungi did throw up on etherpad | 21:30 |
| anteaya | this is not filling me with confidence | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: thanks | 21:31 |
| anteaya | reed: are you willing to turn off the resign button at least until we have created the electoral rolls for the upcoming elections? | 21:31 |
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| anteaya | reed: and can you tell me if anyone has chosen to resign after doing so? | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: it would be good if we could solve the tracking and prioritization problem some other way. Maybe storyboard is our answer, I don't know. :-/ | 21:32 |
| reed | anteaya, I can ask, I have absolutely no control over that site | 21:32 |
| anteaya | then we have at least 6 more months before we have to address this | 21:32 |
| anteaya | because it won't be addressed accurately in the next 2-3 weeks | 21:32 |
| anteaya | reed: please ask | 21:32 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: in the long run, yes, but not yet. hopefully by the next lts ;) | 21:32 |
| jeblair | (hopefully much sooner) | 21:32 |
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| dhellmann | jeblair: yeah, I guess that project has resource issues as much as the rest of us | 21:33 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: i expect infra to be able to start using it soon | 21:34 |
| jeblair | which is a big milestone | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's great | 21:34 |
| reed | anteaya, drafting the message I realized that it may be too late... let me check the dates but I think there is a need according to the bylaws to remove some people from the pool anyway | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | I would not object to oslo being a relatively early adopter, too, but maybe not "first" :-) | 21:34 |
| clarkb | jeblair: fungi nibalizer ok need a break fighting python. reviewing the puppet3 master change now | 21:35 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: woot | 21:35 |
| anteaya | reed remove them by when? | 21:35 |
| anteaya | reed and I can understand the need to be in compliance with the foundation bylaws | 21:35 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: because of the cross-project tracking, we actually need to move all of openstack together, so our migration plan is basically get basic functionality working, move infra, get enough functionality for openstack, move openstack. | 21:36 |
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| anteaya | reed but I have a problem if doing so makes the ptl and tc elections in non-compliance with the tc charter | 21:36 |
| reed | anteaya, trying to find out more details... give me a sec | 21:36 |
| anteaya | reed: thank you | 21:36 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117659/3/install_puppet.sh what sets PUPPET_MASTER? | 21:37 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: is the calling env expected to set that? | 21:37 |
| mordred | clarkb: magic | 21:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ^ does that cause problems for launch node? | 21:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Fixed gate-trove-functional-dsvm jobs https://review.openstack.org/105692 | 21:38 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: yea calling env | 21:38 |
| clarkb | "Since tooz is part of stackforge, it's somewhat part of OpenStack." hrm | 21:38 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: ok, i am not sure that will work with the current way we build nodes /me double checks | 21:38 |
| reed | anteaya, membership to the foundation for about 2,800 people will expire on Oct 4. | 21:39 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: hrm, we'll also need to put the script in puppet 3 mode | 21:39 |
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| anteaya | reed: okay, so why the need for the resign button now? | 21:39 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: I think what you want to do is have puppet do the symlink itself | 21:39 |
| reed | anteaya, as far as I know, these 2,800 people have already been notified of the expiration | 21:39 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: since puppet doesn't need the symlink to run right? just hiera? | 21:40 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: the hiera symlink? | 21:40 |
| reed | anteaya, I think (in general) it makes sense to provide that option to members | 21:40 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117659/3/install_puppet.sh the thing that happens in that change | 21:40 |
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| anteaya | reed sure except that I can no longer fulfill my duties as election official | 21:40 |
| reed | anteaya, so what I think would be good to do is to ask get a list of expired/unrenewed members and check the electoral pool against that | 21:40 |
| anteaya | reed: since I can no longer run the ptl and tc elections as stipulated by the tc charter | 21:40 |
| clarkb | ya we don't copy the calling env onto the target node which is probably a good thing | 21:41 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix ruby-191-prep to uninstall 1.8 and install bundler https://review.openstack.org/120116 | 21:41 |
| anteaya | reed: I have no objections | 21:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: hahahaha. where did you see that? (re: tooz) | 21:41 |
| anteaya | reed: how do you propose we do that? | 21:41 |
| clarkb | mordred: it is in solly's message | 21:41 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: okay we can pull that out and let puppet do it | 21:41 |
| nibalizer | works for me | 21:41 |
| clarkb | mordred: in the thread about tooz | 21:41 |
| anteaya | and we have to do it so that it is current when we create the roll on Septeber 26th | 21:41 |
| reed | anteaya, I'm asking Jimmy and Todd, hopefully they have a record we can pull around Oct 4th | 21:41 |
| nibalizer | will take a few minutes to make those changes then rebse everything | 21:41 |
| anteaya | I create the roll prior to that | 21:42 |
| anteaya | and does taht list take into account email drift? | 21:42 |
| reed | anteaya, when do you create the roll? | 21:42 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: well hold on. maybe jeblair has alternative ideas? | 21:42 |
| clarkb | but I think we will have trouble if we try to enc this like that | 21:42 |
| nibalizer | enc? | 21:42 |
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| anteaya | reed: fungi and I create it after September 26, 2014 05:59 UTC | 21:42 |
| clarkb | external node classifier? isn't that what this is doing | 21:42 |
| reed | anteaya, ok | 21:43 |
| clarkb | it is trying to say you are a puppet 3 master, you are not a puppet3 master, and so on | 21:43 |
| clarkb | except we have none of the framework to actually do it that way | 21:43 |
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| anteaya | reed and gerrit only knows about the gerrit preferred email for the roll | 21:43 |
| nibalizer | hrm | 21:43 |
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| nibalizer | im not sure what you mean? do you mean at node launch? | 21:43 |
| anteaya | reed: so if the foundation does not have their current gerrit preferred email we won't have a match | 21:43 |
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| nibalizer | i had assumed a rooter would ssh in and run the script | 21:43 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes at node launch. that is the only time install_puppet.sh runs | 21:43 |
| anteaya | reed: and I don't know if not a match means they will be removed from the electoral roll in error, or left on in error | 21:44 |
| * jeblair catches up | 21:44 | |
| anteaya | reed: since I don't know how we will be matching | 21:44 |
| nibalizer | if thats not what happens then we need to readjust our plan | 21:44 |
| reed | anteaya, yep, it'll be an imprecise count | 21:44 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix ruby-191-prep to uninstall 1.8 and install bundler https://review.openstack.org/120116 | 21:44 |
| reed | anteaya, how imprecise is hard to know | 21:44 |
| anteaya | reed: I can't tolerate an imprecise count | 21:44 |
| anteaya | it is my job to be precise | 21:44 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: it can probably be made to happen that way, but isn't how we normally run that script | 21:44 |
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| nibalizer | hrm | 21:45 |
| reed | anteaya, let's keep talking and frame the issue precisely so we can find a solution | 21:45 |
| anteaya | I have to be precise for candidates and I have to be precise for the electorate | 21:45 |
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| anteaya | the tc charter doesn't say anything about a fudge factor in ascertaining voting status | 21:45 |
| reed | anteaya, where is the TC charter so I can read it? | 21:45 |
| jeblair | clarkb: launch_node sets the puppet_version env var for that script, it could do the same for master... | 21:46 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/charter.rst | 21:46 |
| jeblair | nibalizer, clarkb: however, what happens if the hiera stuff doesn't happen? | 21:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: right, except I don't think we need to. the puppet for the master knows it is both puppet3 and a master | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add kite to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/120252 | 21:46 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: agreed, that's kind of where i'm heading | 21:47 |
| clarkb | jeblair: well the files are empty as is in that change. so I don't think it matters | 21:47 |
| jesusaurus | jeblair: if you dont make the symlink then running the 'hiera' command-line tool will be different from running the function in puppet | 21:47 |
| jeblair | nibalizer: will puppet work well enough to correct that? | 21:47 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus: but it will make no difference during the bootstrap process | 21:47 |
| jeblair | right? | 21:47 |
| jesusaurus | fixing it with puppet will work | 21:47 |
| nibalizer | no difference with bootstrap | 21:48 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus, nibalizer: so if we ignore that during bootstrap, and let puppet fix it on run #1, we should be good | 21:48 |
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| nibalizer | can be removed from shell script entirely | 21:48 |
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| jesusaurus | yep, we can let puppet fix it on run #1 | 21:48 |
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| jeblair | yay | 21:49 |
| nibalizer | okay i will remove reference to the symlink | 21:49 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning | 21:52 |
| nibalizer | do we also want the shell scrit to be putting in an initial puppet.conf or do we want puppet to do that too? | 21:52 |
| nibalizer | im a bit unclear how the 'sever' configuration variable is set initially | 21:53 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: I think it should do the minimal necessary to do run 1 | 21:53 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: if that is possible without a puppet.conf then ++ | 21:53 |
| nibalizer | sohow do the normal nodes now know to hit cipuppetmaster as their server? | 21:54 |
| * clarkb looks | 21:55 | |
| clarkb | nibalizer: looks like launch-node.py passes it in as a command line arg | 21:56 |
| clarkb | via puppet agent --server | 21:56 |
| nibalizer | ok | 21:56 |
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| nibalizer | does launch_node.py live in config? | 21:57 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes it is under the launch/ dir | 21:57 |
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| nibalizer | ok me reads | 21:57 |
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| * nibalizer wondering how cert dance is done | 21:57 | |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix ruby-191-prep to uninstall 1.8 and install bundler https://review.openstack.org/120116 | 21:57 |
| nibalizer | jeblair once told me that certs are generated then copied over | 21:58 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: its in there too, basically checks if cert exists, and copy pastas if so | 21:58 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yup | 21:58 |
| mordred | all in launch_node.py | 21:59 |
| mordred | at least, it is until my ansible changes are solid ... | 21:59 |
| nibalizer | yes | 22:00 |
| nibalizer | i see it now | 22:00 |
| nibalizer | okay /me goes to refactor | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add keystoneclient-kerberos repository https://review.openstack.org/120261 | 22:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add keystoneclient-kerberos repository https://review.openstack.org/120261 | 22:04 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: btw, did you figure out the zookeeper on the dsvm slave thing? | 22:06 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: ya, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119936/ is the fix. basically we isntall it everywhere | 22:06 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:07 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: good morning | 22:08 |
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| jeblair | jhesketh: when you have a moment, can you read the section on priority blueprints from today's meeting? | 22:08 |
| lifeless | mordred: any thoughts on my comments re dox above? | 22:09 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Fix ruby-191-prep to uninstall 1.8 and install bundler https://review.openstack.org/120116 | 22:09 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: i want to make sure we highlight work needed to accomplish logs-in-swift in next weeks meeting | 22:09 |
| jhesketh | jeblair: will do | 22:10 |
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| mordred | lifeless: I do not see them ... how far above? | 22:11 |
| mordred | lifeless: ah - I foudn them | 22:11 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ok, cool | 22:11 |
| mordred | yes, both of those comments seem to be things I can agree with | 22:11 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: clarkb: i haven't opened any bugs yet because i didn't know in advance what would turn out broken and how. i figured once i identified broken projects i'd file corresponding bugs and give them a chance to identify fixes or switch the jobs non-voting before the nodes they run on went away | 22:14 |
| fungi | clarkb: turns out that stackalytics and tooz were also false failures brought on by memory exhaustion, so i've striken them from the affected list | 22:18 |
| clarkb | great news | 22:18 |
| jhesketh | jeblair: I'll figure out some next steps (as I've been meaning to) and put them in next weeks agenda | 22:18 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: jeblair also wondered if we should hae a meeting annex thati s more friendly to your timezone | 22:18 |
| jhesketh | It'll also be daylight savings next month which will make it easier for me to attend | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/config: Revert "Reduce hpcloud-b1 and b2 usage to 0" https://review.openstack.org/120178 | 22:19 |
| jhesketh | At the moment it's 5am which means that I've been looking at the agenda and deciding if I should set an alarm. 6am from next month I can make | 22:20 |
| clarkb | that is dedication | 22:20 |
| jhesketh | (I have been keeping an eye on minutes and logs but I do feel slightly disconnected mainly because I'm not a morning person) | 22:21 |
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| clarkb | we should all just operate on UTC and ignore what the sun does out the window | 22:21 |
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| jeblair | jhesketh: cool, having something you can put in the agenda means we can highlight reviews that are important to your work during the regular meeting, regardless of whether you attend | 22:22 |
| jhesketh | I thought the solution was to never sleep and always be working? | 22:22 |
| fungi | jhesketh: i'm still working on the logistics for that, but yes | 22:22 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: and then if you want to have a meeting annex or, we can just resolve to chat informally when you wake up, we can fill in the blanks | 22:22 |
| jhesketh | jeblair: sounds good | 22:22 |
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| jhesketh | So with dls I can commit to attending. I'm also okay with the occasional one at 5am too. So the question about a second meeting perhaps should be do we need one. Are there others who might attend if there was another or perhaps more agenda items that we'd be able to cover etc | 22:24 |
| clarkb | fungi: the glanceclient errors look like hashseed things. but hashseed is 0 | 22:24 |
| clarkb | fungi: so I am wondering if maybe the seed of 0 means smomething new? | 22:25 |
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| fungi | clarkb: well, hash ordering is not guaranteed between interpreter versions even if the seed is kept constant | 22:26 |
| clarkb | argle bargle | 22:26 |
| * clarkb tries a thing | 22:26 | |
| fungi | so it could easily be a bug exposed by ordering differences in 3.3 vs 3.4 | 22:26 |
| clarkb | ya I think that may be what it is, will look a bit closer though | 22:27 |
| fungi | we could try random seeds and see if the test behavior changes at all | 22:27 |
| fungi | though ultimately, it's probably just yet-another-test-bug-in-need-of-fixing | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add py33 to sqlalchemy-migrate zuul jobs https://review.openstack.org/120269 | 22:29 |
| clarkb | harlowja: ^ can you ensure that py34 works too | 22:29 |
| harlowja | should the above be targeting 3.4 and i should just leave 3.3 as dead? | 22:29 |
| harlowja | kk | 22:29 |
| clarkb | harlowja: ya, I think we want to do 3.4 at this point | 22:29 |
| harlowja | ok dokie | 22:29 |
| clarkb | harlowja: can do both for a bit if necessary too, but lets not forget about 3.4 | 22:29 |
| harlowja | ya, i'm just trying to get the whole oslo.db starting to move toward 3.x and thats one of those that seems like it was fixed for 3.x but never published for 3.x :-/ | 22:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Add py33/py34 to sqlalchemy-migrate zuul jobs https://review.openstack.org/120269 | 22:31 |
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| fungi | harlowja: right, the plan is that i'll (hopefully) replace gate-{name}-python33 with gate-{name}-python34 in the python3-jobs project-template in zuul's layout.yaml once done confirming that we've fixed any outlier jobs which worked and are voting on 3.3 but presently broken under 3.4 | 22:36 |
| harlowja | fungi cool | 22:36 |
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| fungi | harlowja: the list is whittled down to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py34-transition and i think we have fixes for most of what's there now | 22:37 |
| clarkb | glanceclient is not trivial | 22:37 |
| clarkb | only half the tests are dict order related | 22:37 |
| clarkb | unsure of what is going on with the otehrs | 22:37 |
| harlowja | hmmmm | 22:38 |
| harlowja | taskflow on there, not good, ha | 22:38 |
| fungi | harlowja: i think that one just need the tox.ini patch i posted last week, but i haven't re-tested with that to confirm yet | 22:38 |
| harlowja | oh, ok, phew | 22:39 |
| harlowja | i'll double check | 22:39 |
| fungi | harlowja: basically any projects which had "special" testenv:py33 overrides needed them duplicated for testenv:py34 | 22:39 |
| harlowja | right | 22:39 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: we're waiting on a revised patch from you for install_puppet, right? | 22:48 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: yes, i've been changing locations | 22:59 |
| nibalizer | will update now | 22:59 |
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| fungi | i'm available to re-review once it's up | 23:01 |
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| fungi | still around for the moment, poking at py34 tests to make sure the proposed changes solve the breakage i'm seeing | 23:01 |
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| fungi | i need to do a similar pass for voting pypy jobs, but i expect that to go a lot more smoothly | 23:02 |
| jeblair | This message is to inform you that the host that your cloud server zm02.openstack.org' resides on has become unresponsive as of 23:05 UTC. We have rebooted the server and will continue to monitor for any further alerts. | 23:04 |
| harlowja | hmmm, i'm seeing alot of ones that look like those in https://code.google.com/p/mock/issues/detail?id=234 :( | 23:04 |
| harlowja | damn mock, ha | 23:04 |
| anteaya | it is 23:04 | 23:05 |
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| anteaya | message from the future | 23:05 |
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| jeblair | 23:05 < anteaya> it is 23:04 | 23:05 |
| jeblair | anteaya: ^ :) | 23:05 |
| anteaya | 23:04:30 jeblair | This message is to inform you | 23:06 |
| harlowja | hmmmm, do people use mock on 3.4 or something else, weird | 23:06 |
| anteaya | I'm slower | 23:06 |
| jeblair | anteaya: yeah, my clock said 23:04 when i sent that too. i believe you are correct. | 23:06 |
| clarkb | harlowja: does unittest.mock work with 3.4 | 23:07 |
| clarkb | harlowja: if so that would be an odd bug | 23:07 |
| harlowja | hmmm | 23:07 |
| harlowja | lets see | 23:07 |
| clarkb | but may just mean that the pypi package needs to be updated with 3.4 latest and greatest | 23:08 |
| fungi | jeblair: so... they arbitrarily rebooted zm02? what sort of mess has/will that cause(d) us? | 23:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: it may cause some changes to get reported as being unmergeable? | 23:09 |
| fungi | hopefully only failed git clone attempts from jobs? | 23:09 |
| harlowja | clarkb ya, seems like i need to do some updates to do that type of import | 23:10 |
| harlowja | thx for the hint | 23:10 |
| clarkb | harlowja: is it related specifically to the autospec introspection? | 23:10 |
| harlowja | seems so | 23:10 |
| harlowja | http://paste.openstack.org/show/109184/ | 23:11 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: at most, one change reported as unmergeable, i'd hope. :) | 23:11 |
| harlowja | create_autospec ... | 23:11 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: and actually, if i did it right, not even that. | 23:11 |
| clarkb | jeblair: oh good | 23:11 |
| clarkb | harlowja: so I gues worst case you spec it out yourself? | 23:12 |
| arosen | any one see this error before related to No local packages or download links found for oslo.config>=1.4.0.0a3 | 23:12 |
| arosen | http://paste.openstack.org/show/109185/ | 23:12 |
| arosen | I wonder if it's because there is a letter in the version? | 23:12 |
| harlowja | clarkb ya, worst case, although seems to be fixed if i do 'from unittest import mock' | 23:12 |
| harlowja | so i guess just needs to be updated | 23:12 |
| clarkb | arosen: yup I think that is a result of us only publishing wheels for alpha versions and setup.py using easy_install | 23:12 |
| clarkb | arosen: try pip intall -e . | 23:12 |
| clarkb | harlowja: thats new in 3.3 iirc. so you might need some conditional importing. or maybe we can get the mock package updated | 23:13 |
| anteaya | I'm going to get another walk in | 23:13 |
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| arosen | clarkb: sudo pip install -e oslo.config>=1.4.0.0a3 ? | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Formatting updates in hiera.yaml https://review.openstack.org/117664 | 23:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 23:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: i don't think i was that clever though, so probably we'll lose one change. | 23:14 |
| fungi | jeblair: what's the protection against a job which has been fed a zuul_url to zm02 from trying to clone refs while it was rebooting? | 23:14 |
| clarkb | arosen: no `pip install -e .` in the repo you are trying to setup.py develop. the -e flag is equivalent to develop but pip will install and use wheels | 23:14 |
| asselin | I'm running into a strange issue with zuul. All jobs targeted for the master get an immediate -1 "NOT_REGISTERED" comment. But still they are run, and the results post fine after all jobs finish. any ideas where to look/debug? | 23:14 |
| clarkb | fungi: oh good question | 23:14 |
| harlowja | clarkb ya, conditional importing ftw | 23:15 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: clarkb fungi okay those two reviews are hot^^ a third review that didn't make sense any more has been abandoned | 23:15 |
| arosen | clarkb: thanks | 23:15 |
| nibalizer | also a fresh rebase atop master | 23:15 |
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| jeblair | fungi: oh, those will fail :) | 23:15 |
| clarkb | jogo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1362596 can you provide more info on what you mean there? and how you found out? | 23:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1362596 in openstack-ci "API Test Failure: tempest.api.compute.servers.test_server_actions.[ServerActionsTestJSON,ServerActionsTestXML]" [Undecided,New] | 23:16 |
| jeblair | reading the code, it's possible we could actually end up with a stuck change. | 23:16 |
| clarkb | jogo: "wedged" isn't super helpful | 23:16 |
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| jogo | clarkb: woops I thought I added in the link | 23:17 |
| jogo | clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/99/115799/7/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg/6394ec4/logs/screen-dstat.txt.gz | 23:17 |
| jogo | at 08:48 | 23:17 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: so you went with the case statement anyways? | 23:18 |
| jogo | clarkb: 99% of CPU is in "wai" | 23:18 |
| jogo | clarkb: and there is 0 disk activity | 23:18 |
| jogo | clarkb: so thinking its a HP cloud issue | 23:18 |
| winston-d | jeblair: after spending a day with gertty, i'm pretty happy with it. definitely an efficiency booster to me, thx! | 23:18 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: i did | 23:19 |
| nibalizer | i meant for there to be a default case there | 23:19 |
| nibalizer | let me update | 23:19 |
| jeblair | winston-d: yay! | 23:19 |
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| winston-d | jeblair: anyway I can do a search in 'Diff' mode? It always make me want to hit '/' to get to the part i'm interested in quickly. | 23:20 |
| clarkb | jogo: is wait blocking on kernel? | 23:20 |
| jogo | clarkb: not sure | 23:20 |
| clarkb | oh its percentage of cpu spent on iowait | 23:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Enable puppet3 master bootstrap https://review.openstack.org/117604 | 23:20 |
| clarkb | jogo: so ya I think you are right underlying node when uh, hold on I am trying to io | 23:21 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, that's "your cpu hopes your disk eventually responds" | 23:21 |
| jogo | clarkb: yeah I added openstack-ci so that you guys would be aware of this. I think its a bug with HP cloud sucking | 23:21 |
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| jogo | fungi: haha | 23:22 |
| jhesketh | jeblair: btw, I've been working towards separating out connections in zuul.. I've got a bunch of changes starting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115187/7 if you're interested | 23:22 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117604/17/util/puppetmaster_bootstrap.sh so is that intended on running before or after we run our normal launch node install_puppet stuff? | 23:23 |
| jeblair | jhesketh: cool, i am, but i'm sort of nodepool+puppet focused right at the moment :/ | 23:24 |
| jhesketh | yep, all good :-) | 23:24 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: this is a similar question to the previous stuff. The way we launch nodes is spin them up and point them at puppetmaster. If we can't actually have puppet bootstrap itself here thats fine, but wanting to make sure I udnerstand how you intend on doing this stuff | 23:24 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: so, puppetmaster_bootstrap.sh can just die, that was how i built mine and tested the puppet code | 23:25 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: gotcha | 23:25 |
| nibalizer | you were asking for docs on how to bootstrap, including that script seemed natural | 23:25 |
| nibalizer | instead we should just write down what we actually do | 23:25 |
| clarkb | well have the script is fine. just checking if a rooter was intended to log into host and run that | 23:26 |
| nibalizer | that script does provide some use for people who come in here asking how to get a master set up so they can start hacking on infra | 23:26 |
| nibalizer | but it suffers from 'we're probably never going to test it so its automatically broken' | 23:26 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, mordred: we have 9 routers on 9 hosts now. the names of the hosts have azs in them. that sort of suggests to me that we may want to, when we get to this point, have each of our 9 pseudo providers affiliated only with the az that its router is in. | 23:27 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi, mordred: i'm going to ask more about that. | 23:27 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: i feel like there is a RIP joke in here somewhere | 23:28 |
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| fungi | jeblair: that's an interesting suggestion... and probably has implications for the current load-balance-by-default az implementation in nodepool? | 23:28 |
| jroll | clarkb: mind a quick review when you have a moment? :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119473/ | 23:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: you can "override" that behavior by specifcying a single az | 23:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: so we can game that a bit | 23:29 |
| fungi | jeblair: oh, right, we can just list only one az in each "provider | 23:29 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep | 23:29 |
| jeblair | yeah, and we're currently doing that in order to favor az3 | 23:29 |
| jeblair | it may be a delicate balancing az capacity and network size :/ | 23:29 |
| jeblair | (if we have to put 2/3 of our nodes on az3 then we have to weigh those router hosts more) | 23:30 |
| jeblair | i mean we will end up driving more traffic to them | 23:30 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: fungi jeblair ok I am +2 on that puppet stack. didn't approve the first chagne just in case you all wanted to look at it again without its old dependency | 23:31 |
| harlowja | alright got taskflow running on 3.4 (i think fine) | 23:31 |
| harlowja | Ran 948 (+16) tests in 200.991s (+6.001s) | 23:31 |
| harlowja | PASSED (id=3, skips=2) | 23:31 |
| harlowja | woot :-P | 23:31 |
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| fungi | harlowja: excellent. i'll be double-checking it next anyway once i'm done confirming nothing else is needed for oslo.rootwrap | 23:32 |
| patrickeast | hey everyone, I have a possibly dumb question about zuul configuration if someone has a min to help out, I’m working on the 3rd party CI for a cinder driver and am trying to figure out how to disable the gerrit comment zuul makes when starting a job so it only comments a single time as per the requirements… browsing through the zuul source it looks like there isn’t a (obvious) configuration option for this and is part of the | 23:33 |
| patrickeast | “normal” flow for zuul when enqueueing events, so how do I change that behavior in my builds? | 23:33 |
| fungi | clarkb: oslo.messaging apparently need more work. testr is segfaulting on me | 23:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: wow thats awesome | 23:33 |
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| harlowja | fungi cool, i had to do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120281/ | 23:33 |
| harlowja | but after that seemed to go ok | 23:33 |
| clarkb | patrickeast: in your layout file under the pipelines section there should be entries with starting comments, just remove those entries | 23:33 |
| jeblair | patrickeast: zuul is entirely configuration driven, so if your system is commenting on a patch, it's because the layout.yaml instructs it to... | 23:34 |
| fungi | harlowja: was that in addition to https://review.openstack.org/118813 ? | 23:34 |
| jeblair | patrickeast: were you following some instructions to set it up in a certain way? | 23:34 |
| harlowja | fungi correcy | 23:34 |
| harlowja | *correct | 23:34 |
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| jeblair | patrickeast: if so, can you point them out to us? it seems like they may be leading you astray. | 23:34 |
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| fungi | harlowja: thanks. i've added it to the etherpad so i don't forget | 23:34 |
| harlowja | np | 23:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: now I am going to see if I can segfault too | 23:34 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: i was following these blog posts http://www.joinfu.com/2014/02/setting-up-an-openstack-external-testing-system-part-2/ | 23:35 |
| fungi | clarkb: please do. i don't entirely trust this node any longer and may recycle it and grab another | 23:35 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: clarkb: so I have triggers for gerrit comments, but I don’t see anything for posting a comment, only for “verified”, unless “verified: 0” means to report starting? | 23:36 |
| jeblair | patrickeast: where's the layout.yaml that gets installed? | 23:36 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: its under /etc/zuul/ | 23:37 |
| jeblair | patrickeast: sorry, i meant the source file. | 23:37 |
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| jeblair | patrickeast: i see instructions that say to edit it, but i don't see the original. | 23:37 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: here is my current one http://paste.openstack.org/show/109193/ | 23:38 |
| jeblair | is this it? https://github.com/jaypipes/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/etc/zuul/layout.yaml | 23:38 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: yep | 23:38 |
| jeblair | patrickeast: the one on github does not have a start section, which is correct. but yours does | 23:39 |
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| jeblair | patrickeast: anyway, get rid of the 'start' sections, and get rid of the 'gate' pipeline entirely. | 23:39 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: ohhh interesting, ok, so that must be it | 23:39 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: ok, ill give that a try | 23:39 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: why does your example layout.yaml have a gate section? | 23:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: Segmentation fault (core dumped) bam! | 23:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: this is awesome | 23:40 |
| fungi | clarkb: okay, so... yeah. probably one of the c extensions | 23:40 |
| patrickeast | jeblair: thanks for your help! | 23:40 |
| jeblair | patrickeast: you're welcome | 23:41 |
| clarkb | fungi: lookes like 6/8 testr runners did it on my box | 23:41 |
| clarkb | so consistent but not for every test | 23:41 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: i think you should be able to drop the gate pipeline and the includes section | 23:41 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: copy/paste from upstream :( | 23:42 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: thanks :) | 23:42 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: the resulting file should be delightfully small if you do that :) | 23:42 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: and IIRC, a vestigiality of perhaps when we might have thought external systems may vote in the gate (did we ever, not sure?) | 23:42 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: I'll do so right now! :) | 23:42 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: oh, i'd drop the 'precedence' line from the check pipeline too | 23:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: I am trying to narrow down the culprit | 23:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: runnign tests serially | 23:43 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair: a-ok? https://github.com/jaypipes/os-ext-testing-data/pull/5 | 23:45 |
| fungi | harlowja: confirmed that taskflow is testing clean now with those two patches cherry-picked onto the tip of master | 23:49 |
| harlowja | fungi woot | 23:49 |
| clarkb | running tests serially is slow | 23:49 |
| fungi | clarkb: i KNEW there had to be a reason we parallelized testing | 23:49 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: sorry for os-ext-testng-data causing confusion :( trying to remedy ASAP. | 23:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed a change to openstack-infra/config: Introduce tripleo-puppet-elements into Stackforge https://review.openstack.org/120285 | 23:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: okay, i've tested the py34 changes we have posted so far and split the problem project list in the etherpad between ones which i've confirmed solved and those still under research | 23:55 |
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| clarkb | thanks | 23:55 |
| clarkb | added notes about glanceclient | 23:56 |
| fungi | awesome | 23:56 |
| clarkb | ok messaging segfaults in serial execution too | 23:56 |
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| fungi | i think i'm going to call it a night and start back in on these and sizing up the pypy job transition as well first thing tomorrow, barring new fires | 23:56 |
| clarkb | fungi: sounds good. Nothing pops out screaming why it segfaulted | 23:57 |
| clarkb | probably going to need to be a bit more methodolical | 23:58 |
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| fungi | if you break off, just leave a note about the minimum breaking case you've been able to isolate and i can pick up on trying to break it down further when i get back to it | 23:59 |
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