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| clarkb | in this case I am trying to take afazekas' mutli node test env and have it do multi_host nova networking | 00:01 |
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| clarkb | current trouble is that the node that runs tempest cannot ping/ssh VMs on the floating ip public network when those VMs are running on the second nova node | 00:01 |
| clarkb | we use gretap interfaces to connect the two nodes together and those gretap interfaces live on a bridge on either side | 00:02 |
| clarkb | on the dest side packets do not make it from the gretap device onto the bridge | 00:02 |
| clarkb | and I am about to call it quits and go watch baseball | 00:02 |
| clarkb | pleia2: ^ are you watching in florida? | 00:02 |
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| * ianw watching in .au, go giants | 00:05 | |
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| clarkb | however if I add another address onthat public interface behind gre_br outside of the floating ip range then that ip works just fine | 00:06 |
| clarkb | s o Ithink I am hitting nova nat rules weirdly | 00:06 |
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| clarkb | and I really need a whiteboard to sort that out so time for baseball | 00:07 |
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| fungi | i never noticed before... the detroit airport's signage is all bilingual english/japanese, but the announcements over the intercom are bilingual english/mandarin | 00:21 |
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| fungi | nevermind--seems the announcements are trilingual in english/japanese/mandarin | 00:38 |
| jogo | go giants | 00:40 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: I am! | 01:03 |
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| oda-g_ | Hi, openstackgerrit of openstack-neutron gone. | 01:25 |
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| kinrui | oda-g_: i'll check on the bot real fast, thanks | 01:27 |
| kinrui | oh, wow. netsplitsville | 01:28 |
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| kinrui | okay, openstackgerrit is back now | 01:31 |
| kinrui | nickserv however is refusing to let me reclaim my nick yet | 01:31 |
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| fungi | there we go | 01:32 |
| fungi | and now to get on a plane to france | 01:32 |
| pleia2 | safe travels, fungi | 01:32 |
| fungi | you too pleia2 | 01:32 |
| fungi | see you on the other side of the briney | 01:33 |
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| jeblair | fungi: bon voyage! | 01:39 |
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| jogo | fungi: the foundation is culling the member list? | 02:09 |
| jogo | fungi: oh right your on a plane | 02:09 |
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| pleia2 | ok, it's only one line, and it's CCS, but look at my gerrit patch go! https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/61142/ | 02:10 |
| pleia2 | probably more proud of this than I should be ;) | 02:10 |
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| jogo | pleia2: nice | 02:28 |
| jogo | pleia2: gerrit hangs in chrome for me every so often | 02:28 |
| pleia2 | jogo: I have that very rarely when it's a many-patchsets patch | 02:29 |
| pleia2 | but not often enough for me to think much of it | 02:29 |
| jogo | usually its | 02:32 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fnova+OR+project%3Aopenstack%2Fpython-novaclient%29+status%3Aopen+NOT+owner%3Aself+NOT+label%3AWorkflow%3C%3D-1+label%3AVerified%3E%3D1%252cjenkins+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D-2%252cself+branch%3Amaster&title=Nova+Review+Inbox+%28master+branch+only%29&&Needs+Feedback+%28Changes+older+than+5+days+that+have+not+been+reviewed+by | 02:32 |
| jogo | +anyone%29=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D2+age%3A5d&Your+are+a+reviewer%2C+but+haven%27t+voted+in+the+current+revision=reviewer%3Aself&Needs+final+%2B2=label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D2+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1+limit%3A100&Passed+Jenkins%2C+No+Negative+Feedback=NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3E%3D2+NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D-1+limit%3A50&Wayward+Changes+%28Changes+with+no+code+review+in+the+last+2days%29= | 02:32 |
| jogo | NOT+label%3ACode-Review%3C%3D2+age%3A2d | 02:32 |
| jogo | the nova dash from the dash generator | 02:32 |
| jogo | in google-chrome and not chromium though | 02:33 |
| pleia2 | ah :) | 02:33 |
| jogo | and only on my debian based box and not my ubuntu based laptop | 02:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed a change to openstack/requirements: Add voluptuous for libraries/applications data validation https://review.openstack.org/131920 | 02:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed a change to openstack-infra/nodepool: Set useful PATH before starting scripts https://review.openstack.org/131921 | 02:54 |
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| jogo | go giants! | 03:23 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 03:26 |
| pleia2 | the bar downstairs closed an hour ago, Miami is kind of a downer tonight ;) | 03:26 |
| StevenK | Last I looked it was bottom of the 7th | 03:27 |
| pleia2 | is over now, we won | 03:27 |
| jeblair | yay giants! | 03:27 |
| StevenK | pleia2: \o/ | 03:27 |
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| StevenK | pleia2: Final was still 3-2? | 03:27 |
| clarkb | that pitching | 03:27 |
| jeblair | StevenK: yep | 03:27 |
| pleia2 | was a good game | 03:27 |
| jeblair | just heard some fireworks | 03:28 |
| jogo | there has been honking and cheering for the past 4 minutes staight | 03:28 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 03:28 |
| StevenK | On my first trip for Canonical, I was in Boston. The first night I was there, there was honking and cheering for a little while that woke me up. The next day, I opened up smh.com.au to read about news in Sydney, and the top story is about the sporting event in Boston. | 03:29 |
| jogo | haha | 03:30 |
| clarkb | and now I get to watch the blazers | 03:30 |
| pleia2 | StevenK: but understand, the red sox never win :) | 03:30 |
| StevenK | Given it would have been about this time in 2007, it was probably the World Series | 03:30 |
| pleia2 | I think Boston is still celebrating | 03:31 |
| bhunter71 | a question. I was the first openid/launchpad user into my gerrit. I was administrating, creating groups and stuff. Created me a openstack-project-creator. I somehow after some logout/login have become a limitted/regular user. Is there a way I can re-grant myself Administrator group status? | 03:32 |
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| clarkb | you can add yourself to the group in the db | 03:32 |
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| bhunter71 | thanks clarkb, will check it out. | 03:33 |
| jeblair | apparently the parade is scheduled for mid-day friday; take that into consideration if you're flying then | 03:33 |
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| jogo | jeblair: hmm my flight is at 7pm on friday | 03:44 |
| * StevenK doesn't leave until 1615 on Saturday | 03:44 | |
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| greghaynes | australian saturday ;) | 03:45 |
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| StevenK | Well, yes | 03:46 |
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| StevenK | So it may be in fact the same time as jogo gets on a plane | 03:46 |
| StevenK | Few hours before me | 03:47 |
| jogo | StevenK: when do you arrive in paris? | 03:47 |
| StevenK | jogo: When do you land? | 03:47 |
| StevenK | Heh | 03:47 |
| StevenK | jogo: 0750 Sunday | 03:47 |
| jogo | 05:00 PM the 1st | 03:47 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: and I get in at either 7:30 or 8:30 sunday | 03:48 |
| StevenK | greghaynes: am? | 03:48 |
| greghaynes | ye | 03:48 |
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| jogo | and people are still going insane outside | 03:49 |
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| StevenK | 1650 1/11 SYD - 0040 2/11 DXB ; 0320 2/11 DXB - 0750 2/11 CDG | 03:49 |
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| mordred | jogo: you'd think they'd be used to it by now | 05:08 |
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| jogo | mordred: yup, 3 times in 5 years | 05:32 |
| jogo | ohh fireworks | 05:32 |
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| jogo | http://hoodline.com/2014/10/scenes-from-a-giants-victory-in-the-lower-haight | 05:37 |
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| gothicmindfood | jogo: there's a great ambient radio channel that's mixing the SF traffic radio advisory channel live with ambient sounds | 06:13 |
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| nibalizer | gothicmindfood: link? | 06:15 |
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| jogo | gothicmindfood: amazing | 06:32 |
| mordred | gothicmindfood: nice! | 06:35 |
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| jkraj | Hi I am not able to update contact information in review.openstack.org | 07:36 |
| jkraj | getting this error 'Cannot store contact information' | 07:36 |
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| naggappan | Hi team , i am trying to run devstack-gate (which will install devstack in a clean VM each time ) throught jenkins job. I am not sure how to use devstack-gate for this purpose. Currenlty if i run devstack then it works fine but i have to revert the snapshoot of the vm each time instead i am thinking to use devstack-gate. Could some one show some examples how to use it | 07:43 |
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| AJaeger | naggappan, the project-config repo contains all the details on how OpenStack uses devstack-gate in Jenkins, see jenkins/jobs/* | 08:01 |
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| naggappan | @ajaeger thanks. I have gone through it. Currently i have created a jenkins job manually. This will install devstack in the slave node. Once the clone is done i am createing the stack user using devstack tools. Now how to switch the user from root user to stack user in jenkins and contine stack.sh fruther | 09:09 |
| naggappan | *further | 09:09 |
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| fungi | jkraj: that usually means you missed setting up an openstack foundation membership, or the primary e-mail address in your foundation profile does not match your preferred e-mail address in gerrit https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer | 12:03 |
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| rcarrillocruz | hey folks, i've noticed the zuul class has several swift parameters, but i can't see what we actually do with them. Were they added in advent of the swift logging or something? | 12:08 |
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| rcarrillocruz | swift log upload i mean | 12:09 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz: look in modules/zuul/templates/zuul.conf.erb | 12:15 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz: fwiw, I did "git grep swift_ | grep zuul" in openstack-infra/system-config to investigate your question | 12:16 |
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| rcarrillocruz | ah, ok, in the template | 12:27 |
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| rcarrillocruz | i did that grep on the manifest folder since i expected the logic to be there :/ | 12:27 |
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| rcarrillocruz | thx | 12:29 |
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| fungi | mordred: you said you've already been lurking in paris this week. assuming you're in le meridien too, any suggestions for quick but tolerable food nearby? | 12:41 |
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| mordred | fungi: nope! I'm actually over at the W Opera | 12:44 |
| mordred | fungi: I do not believe "quick" food exists here- but it's all very tolerable | 12:44 |
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| mordred | fungi: you are here now? | 12:45 |
| rcarrillocruz | brasseries are cool, i found decent food for decent amount of money | 12:45 |
| mordred | ++ | 12:46 |
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| fungi | mordred: yep. "quick" in the sense of nearby and not packed with no open tables for an hour or more, less worried about speed of the service | 12:46 |
| mordred | gotcha | 12:46 |
| mordred | yeah - I'd just head for a brasserie | 12:47 |
| fungi | once i'm in a chair they can take as long as they please to get my order and bring food | 12:47 |
| mordred | at this time of day I would not expect them to be terribly packed | 12:47 |
| fungi | any ol' brasserie. check. thanks! | 12:47 |
| mordred | fungi: just get steak frites | 12:47 |
| mordred | fungi: and then see if you can go the entire week ONLY eating that | 12:48 |
| fungi | there is apparently a "james joyce pub" downstairs in the meridien building. taking bets on how not-parisian the menu is | 12:48 |
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| arosen | Hi, every now and then I notice that my 3rd party CI stops getting gerrit notifications and I restart zuul and then it starts working again. Would this be zuul-merger or zuul-server? | 12:50 |
| arosen | I'm looking through the logs to see if i can stop why this is occuring | 12:50 |
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| mordred | arosen: zuul-server | 12:59 |
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| mordred | arosen: might be network hiccups breaking the ssh connection? that would certainly good to track down | 12:59 |
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| fungi | arosen: or some firewall generously timing out the connection state for you after not seeing packets for a little while | 13:11 |
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| zaro | yolanda: question for you in bug 1247866 | 13:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1247866 in openstack-ci "jjb fails on creating job with spaces in the name" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1247866 | 13:12 |
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| yolanda | hi zaro, ok, i'll take a look | 13:27 |
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| yolanda | i set the bug as invalid | 13:31 |
| flaper87 | fungi: where can I find the docs for the `gate_hook` and `post_test_hook` ? | 13:32 |
| flaper87 | fungi: sorry, that was meant to be public (not mentioning you) | 13:33 |
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| fungi | flaper87: i think the closest thing we have to docs for those hooks is the devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh script in devstack-gate and the various example job configurations defining custom devstack-gate hooks in the project-config repo (there may be documentation of the hooks, i just don't recall seeing any) | 13:34 |
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| flaper87 | fungi: kk, I'll stick to those. | 13:35 |
| flaper87 | fungi: just to give you some context. I'm getting permission denied in this job: http://logs.openstack.org/66/120966/10/check/check-zaqarclient-dsvm-functional/11e79cd/console.html | 13:35 |
| flaper87 | AFAIK, sudo is a no-go so I'd like to understand how I can make that work | 13:36 |
| flaper87 | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/zaqar.yaml#n33 | 13:36 |
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| fungi | flaper87: that log shows you trying to pip install a package into the system context as a normal user | 13:39 |
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| flaper87 | fungi: right, I could use sudo but I don't know if that's ok with our gate policies | 13:41 |
| flaper87 | I'm reading other job files to see what they do in this case | 13:41 |
| fungi | flaper87: commands run by devstack-gate run as the jenkins user which i believe has full sudo access initially (though it may get removed after devstack is set up... i'd need to go reread the script) | 13:42 |
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| flaper87 | fungi: it gets removed, there's a revoke-sudo job in the pipeline | 13:43 |
| fungi | well, run as the jenkins user unless otherwise expressed by sudoing to another account to perform certain tasks | 13:43 |
| mase_x200 | can you use sudo to create a user with the required privs before it gets revoked ? | 13:44 |
| mase_x200 | or is that not kosher? | 13:44 |
| flaper87 | I'd rather use sudo before it gets removed in that case | 13:45 |
| flaper87 | I just need to install the test-requirements | 13:45 |
| mordred | yah. that | 13:45 |
| fungi | mase_x200: that wouldn't really work around the problem | 13:45 |
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| mordred | I mean, these are single use slaves - you can do whatever - we mainly revoke sudo to catch places where things assume sudo when they shouldn't | 13:46 |
| fungi | mase_x200: there are in fact already accounts on those systems which can sudo, but the jenkins user can't switch to them once it can no longer itself sudo | 13:46 |
| mordred | it's pretty impossible to install and run a cloud without root | 13:46 |
| mase_x200 | fungi: ah ok, that makes sense. | 13:46 |
| fungi | i'm looking to see where in a devstack-gate job we revoke sudo from the jenkins user | 13:46 |
| flaper87 | mordred: that was my gess (re removing sudo) | 13:47 |
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| mase_x200 | fungi: i'm just in here as a mechanism to learn how the ci-stack works so feel free to ignore me :) | 13:47 |
| fungi | flaper87: where do you see sudo removed from the jenkins user? | 13:47 |
| fungi | aha, found in devstack-vm-gate.sh | 13:48 |
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| fungi | right before optionally running devstack exercises | 13:48 |
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| fungi | flaper87: can those packages be installed in a pre-test hook instead? | 13:49 |
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| fungi | flaper87: basically the three current hooks in the order the are executed are pre-test, gate and post-test | 13:50 |
| flaper87 | fungi: yup, I'm doing that as we speak. I was double checking I still have sudo in the `pre_test_hook` | 13:50 |
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| fungi | flaper87: the default gate hook is what runs the devstack-vm-gate.sh script, which is what's in turn revoking sudo, but that can also be replaced by a custom gate hook if you pefer | 13:51 |
| fungi | er, if you prefer | 13:52 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: for the gating relationship session, do you have an etherpad for the session you can throw up on the wiki? | 13:53 |
| flaper87 | fungi: mordred https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132029/ lets see | 13:53 |
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| flaper87 | Is it possible to trigger just 1 experimental job ? | 13:54 |
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| flaper87 | `check experimental my-super-zaqar-job` ? | 13:54 |
| clarkb | mtreinish I was going to do that today if it needed doing but dont let me stop you | 13:54 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: there's no rush, I was just curious and also trying to close out the qa section on the wiki | 13:56 |
| clarkb | in the past proposers did the etherpad and I put that one on the list so I think I am on the hook for it | 13:58 |
| mtreinish | ah, ok I had forgotten that you proposed it | 13:59 |
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| mordred | WOW. I just got a great form-letter email that's clearly just sending a bizdev intro email to everyone involved with a conference talk | 14:00 |
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| mordred | the best part is that the tech person referenced in the email who I should talk to is "Dr. Engineer" ... which does seem to be the fellow's actual name ... which means he has the BEST name evar | 14:01 |
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| jaypipes | jeblair, anteaya, clarkb: I've changed my blog post to simply refer to the ci.openstack.org instructions for requesting an external CI account and put a big red banner/notice at the top of the blog post that some things don't work in the article due to some changes in upstream puppet modules. I haven't had a chance to work on fixes to the os-ext-testing repo yet, but hope to do that soonish. Please do let me know if an | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | yone comes to the channel complaining about instructions from my blog and I will be sure to update the blog post with warnings or alternate instructions as best I can. sorry for all your frustrations. | 14:04 |
| rcarrillocruz | mordred: jesusaurus real name DOES kick ass :P | 14:05 |
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| flaper87 | fungi: mordred https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132029/ tests look ok, Is there a way I can trigger that zaqarclient job before the patch is merged ? | 14:06 |
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| pleia2 | morning | 14:07 |
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| AJaeger | good morning, pleia2 | 14:08 |
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| flaper87 | clarkb: btw, I addressed your comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125563/ and created https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128224/ | 14:13 |
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| fungi | oh wow. apparently owf changed venues since the last time i looked. now instead of being at the end of the line on the far side of paris, they're having it just the other side of the arc de triomphe from here, so just a quick, simple, pleasant morning walk | 15:09 |
| clarkb | nice | 15:11 |
| jedimike | hi, I'm proposing a new feature for zuul which I think would help CI installations with limited slave capacity, would appreciate feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129255/ | 15:15 |
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| john-davidge | anteaya: Hey! o/ | 15:20 |
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| john-davidge | Brocade LBaaS CI is posting 'Build Started' comments. See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130175/ | 15:21 |
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| john-davidge | Thought you'd like to know | 15:22 |
| pleia2 | john-davidge: I'm sure she'll see your comments, but she's left for the summit in Paris already (in case you were expecting a response right away :)) | 15:22 |
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| clarkb | might be good to ping the ci runners directly | 15:23 |
| * pleia2 nods | 15:23 | |
| john-davidge | pleia2: Ah ok, thanks. Getting a few days of sightseeing done first eh? :) | 15:23 |
| john-davidge | clarkb: will do | 15:23 |
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| john-davidge | Hmm, that particular CI account doesn't seem to have an entry on the wiki page | 15:25 |
| john-davidge | The plot thickens... | 15:25 |
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| john-davidge | fungi: Are you also Paris-bound at the moment? | 15:26 |
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| fungi | john-davidge: i'm already in paris as well, trying to get my bearings after being up for most of the last 72 hours | 15:29 |
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| john-davidge | fungi: Wow! where were you flying in from? | 15:29 |
| fungi | and prepping for several engagements here at owf tomorrow | 15:29 |
| fungi | eastern usa, but was up late packing, then took a red-eye and didn't sleep on the plane | 15:30 |
| fungi | hoping pre-exhausting myself will make it easier to jump-start my circadian rhythm here for the next couple weeks | 15:32 |
| john-davidge | Yep, get a good 12 hours sleep tonight and hope that resets the system! | 15:34 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, clarkb: Can anybody of you cut an icehouse branch for openstack-manuals, please? | 15:35 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: can I get your eyes on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128224/ ? It should be fairly easy to review | 15:37 |
| flaper87 | sdague: thanks in advance | 15:37 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I can do it. what sha1/ref should be used to branch off of? | 15:53 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, current HEAD is fine ... | 15:53 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ok | 15:53 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/openstack-manuals,branches has an icehouse branch. you want juno? | 15:54 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, I want juno, yes. Sorry... | 15:55 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: done | 15:55 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb ! | 15:55 |
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| rcarrillocruz | folks, we run behind upstream and our zuul does not have the swift options. I just deployed a zuul server in an instance with openstack_project::zuul_prod and I see the following warning on the debug.log: | 16:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | "Unable to set up swift. Signed storage URL is likely to be wrong. No module named swiftclient" | 16:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | missing python-swiftclient as requirement in the manifest? | 16:08 |
| rcarrillocruz | can't compare on our systems for that message, any core/root that could look into this? | 16:09 |
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| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: its just telling you that the swift storage urls will be wrong without having swiftclient installed | 16:12 |
| clarkb | zuul will run fine | 16:12 |
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| ashp | argh, moving my infrastructure to another region in ec2 and now zuul-merger won't fetch anything to merge and I've forgotten how I fixed this last time | 16:14 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah, but my point is, the manifest should then install it as a requirement | 16:14 |
| ashp | lamest problems for a thursday | 16:14 |
| clarkb | rcarrillocruz: I think the reason it does not has to do with kestoneclient | 16:15 |
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| clarkb | ashp: zuul runs fine on top of openstack ;) | 16:16 |
| ashp | clarkb: Yeah, except the place we were building out the latest openstack infrastructure turned into a giant disaster due to multicast issues | 16:16 |
| clarkb | ashp: the zuul-merger fetch happens via ssh to gerrit. so double check the zuul-mergers ssh git wrapper script and make suer that host keys are accepted | 16:16 |
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| ashp | yeah, the wrapper script seems ok, stream events are working, I had this trouble last time and did... something :/ | 16:17 |
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| ashp | I'm leaving for paris tomorrow so my efforts are half-hearted today | 16:17 |
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| clarkb | stream events does not use the wrapper though if you run merger and server on the same host they should share known_hosts file(s) | 16:18 |
| ashp | I think I possibly fixed it | 16:19 |
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| ashp | 2014-10-30 16:18:58,145 INFO zuul.MergeClient: Merge <gear.Job 0x7f2e00133b10 handle: H:127.0.0.1:4 name: merger:merge unique: eec4582490a94f7888eead1345172019> complete, merged: True, updated: False, commit: None | 16:19 |
| ashp | other than fixing a github ssh key thing I think I finally got this all rolled back up into the chef cookbooks | 16:19 |
| ashp | Honestly I wish I had just fought harder to use the puppet stuff | 16:19 |
| ashp | eventually it's all going into containers so all this work is throwaway anyway | 16:19 |
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| mdbooth | The gate looks unhappy. Looks like a nosebleed with all that green and red. | 16:34 |
| ekarlso | anyone know why relative imports are "banned" in hacking ? | 16:34 |
| clarkb | mdbooth: yup I am investigating. I think http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=1694&rra_id=all is the cause | 16:35 |
| mdbooth | Looks like git.openstack.org might be down? | 16:35 |
| clarkb | mdbooth: one of the backends had a fit | 16:35 |
| mdbooth | clarkb: Thanks | 16:35 |
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| clarkb | ekarlso: probably to avoid issues moving code around? | 16:37 |
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| clarkb | ekarlso: iirc a lot of those rules are based on a google python syle guide | 16:38 |
| clarkb | iirc they have justifications there | 16:38 |
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| ekarlso | ah ok | 16:38 |
| mordred | I believe it's in support of the idea "explicit is better than implicit" | 16:38 |
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| clarkb | jedimike: commented on the spec | 16:40 |
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| wenlock | hey, on the wiki is there any guide for core approvers on workflow for review/approve a change? | 16:45 |
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| wenlock | looking for something i can leverage | 16:45 |
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| clarkb | I am not seeing anything in the haproxy log that makes me hate computers. So probably a backend thing /me looks there now | 16:46 |
| clarkb | wenlock: it tends to vary by project so I don't think there is any one document | 16:46 |
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| wenlock | clarkb, thanks, wanted to confirm that before investing time on coming up with something myself. I'm mostly looking for writing up something that someone new to core reviewer process could potentially use when they are coming from a differnt world like subversion | 16:47 |
| clarkb | wenlock: we have a gerritgitjenkins page on the wiki | 16:48 |
| wenlock | yep, i see that, good for new developers... but was looking something more geared towards approvers | 16:48 |
| wenlock | clarkb, this one, right? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute | 16:48 |
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| wenlock | clarkb or you mean this one https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit | 16:50 |
| wenlock | clarkb, this section looks promising I think "Reviewing a Change" , let me see what feedback i get when i point our folks there | 16:52 |
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| clarkb | the second one | 16:52 |
| zaro | morning | 16:53 |
| wenlock | morning zaro | 16:53 |
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| zaro | wenlock: what would that doc contain? cores usually start out as non-cores to get the hang of things, when they become core they typically know the routine? | 16:53 |
| wenlock | zaro, the perspective we're coming from is that the owners of the project or code base are migrating from using a different SCM CI system that is not gerrit or openstack like. | 16:54 |
| wenlock | zaro , the openstack workflow can be very foreign to this crowd | 16:54 |
| wenlock | zaro trying to find a way to communicate the general process and roles. | 16:55 |
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| zaro | wenlock: ahh ok, more for internal projects. | 16:57 |
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| wenlock | zaro, yeah, not just internal i think though. Especially folks that are even adopting externally. | 16:57 |
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| wenlock | zaro, but yeah, most of the questions to me are coming from internal and our first users. | 16:58 |
| zaro | wenlock: the only thing i seem to fail to communicate is the two +2 convention | 16:58 |
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| wenlock | zaro, yeah , seems like the +2 and +1 approve convention is really up to team to decide for the most part | 16:59 |
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| wenlock | zaro for those that know how those levers works its obvious i think, its new folks that it's not so obvious | 16:59 |
| wenlock | zaro how process merges with actual mechanics | 17:00 |
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| zaro | wenlock: now that would be beneficial to upstream, i don't think there's docs around the mechanics. | 17:02 |
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| wenlock | thanks zaro, i was looking to see before i try to repro something. | 17:04 |
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| clarkb | mordred: moving here as I didn't initially realize we were in -dev | 17:10 |
| clarkb | mordred: I *think* that the bandwidth is at least contributing to the issue | 17:10 |
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| clarkb | mordred: so I am +1 to building a new 8gigawatt performance flavored node | 17:10 |
| clarkb | mordred: any thoughts? we should be able to safely spin it up, test it, then move dns | 17:10 |
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| clarkb | fungi: jeblair SergeyLukjanov jhesketh ^ | 17:12 |
| clarkb | I will probably spin up a replacement sometime today | 17:12 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 17:12 |
| * SergeyLukjanov reading and trying understnand what's the issue | 17:12 | |
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| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: git.o.o keeps falling over with errors like https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-dsvm/12023/console | 17:13 |
| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: if I grep for that slave's ipv4 and ipv6 address in the haproxy logs I get nothing | 17:13 |
| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: and the flavor we are on has a 600mpbs bandwidth limit of which I remember reading you get 50% up and 50%down so effectively 300mpbs up 300mbps down | 17:13 |
| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: according to cacti we are hitting 300mbps up around when those failures happen | 17:14 |
| zaro | hmm gerritbot not working again? | 17:14 |
| clarkb | jroll: JayF ^ do you know if I am characterizing the flavor bandwidth limits properly | 17:14 |
| jroll | clarkb: no idea what limits are | 17:15 |
| jroll | I didn't realize that was a thing | 17:15 |
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| jroll | perf cloud has 10g links | 17:15 |
| clarkb | jroll: ya if I switch to a performance node I get almost 3x those numbers | 17:15 |
| zaro | hashar: want to address pelix's comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92342/ ? | 17:15 |
| clarkb | so I am spinning up a new node now | 17:15 |
| jroll | clarkb: oh, the limits are on standard? | 17:16 |
| jroll | clarkb: perf cloud ftw | 17:16 |
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| clarkb | jroll: yup its an older server we havne't replaced yet | 17:17 |
| clarkb | its an 8gb standard node so switching to 8gb performance now | 17:17 |
| jroll | aha, yeah | 17:17 |
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| clarkb | SergeyLukjanov: mordred ok that is launching now. I am going to do morning things while we wait | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: is there load issues going on with the git servers again, I just had a patch get bumped by more git errors: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132036/ | 17:20 |
| SergeyLukjanov | clarkb, thanks for the explanation, got it | 17:21 |
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| hashar | zaro: I reviewed a few JJB patches this afternoon, that one is still in the backlog though :/ | 17:24 |
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| hashar | zaro: +1 :-) | 17:25 |
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| clarkb | ok I found faq | 17:27 |
| clarkb | 600mbps is the aggregate outbound bandwith across all interfaces. public internet gets 50% of that and inbound is not limited | 17:27 |
| clarkb | so I think a performance node switch should be done.and hopefully it explains why packets appear to never get to haproxy | 17:29 |
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| clarkb | ok please test cloning from 23.253.99.217 and 2001:4800:7815:102:f5f1:6ed9:efd5:7ccc over http, https, and git:// | 17:34 |
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| clarkb | all six work for me | 17:39 |
| clarkb | I am adding reverse DNS records for those two addresses but will wait on the A and AAAA | 17:40 |
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| clarkb | and thats done. I really need to run now (headed into town for lunch and stuff) but if others could test that the new host works for them too that would be great then I can change A and AAAA records when I can babysit | 17:41 |
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| mordred | clarkb: ok. I'm back - will test out | 18:06 |
| sdague | flaper87: +A | 18:07 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: danke! | 18:07 |
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| sdague | zaro: hey, so on your list of gerrit hackathon things. Can you add semantic class tags back into the new screen UI? | 18:08 |
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| waynr | zaro: does there need to be a release of python-jenkins to make the new "get_plugin_info" methods available for use in JJB? | 18:14 |
| zaro | sdague: there is a new "hashtag" feature which is just general tagging of things. That name will probably change though. is that what you mean? | 18:15 |
| zaro | sdague: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/q/status:merged+project:gerrit+branch:master+topic:hashtags | 18:15 |
| sdague | zaro: yeh, so that's cool, but not what I mean | 18:15 |
| sdague | so on the old screen the html that is generated includes things like .commentPanelAuthorCell and .commentPanelDateCell | 18:16 |
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| zaro | waynr: no, jjb depends on latest python-jenkins and i believe the latest release of it already has get_plugin_info | 18:16 |
| sdague | in the new screen there are no semantic css classes | 18:16 |
| sdague | which makes finding page elements for hideci a bit more wonky | 18:17 |
| sdague | and basically eliminates the ability to do client side styling in any sane way | 18:17 |
| sdague | it's very unfriendly markup | 18:17 |
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| mordred | sdague: what don't you like about #div div div div span div span div div h1 div p div as a way to find a comment? | 18:20 |
| mordred | seems totally straightforward to me | 18:20 |
| sdague | :P | 18:21 |
| zaro | sdague: thanks for clarifying. definately will add. would it be possible for you to eneter a feature request for that? | 18:21 |
| zaro | sdague: https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/list | 18:22 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/e923601fdcf8c7569553dcded4f7926a1b722cb6/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/hideci.js#L122-L127 | 18:22 |
| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/e923601fdcf8c7569553dcded4f7926a1b722cb6/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/hideci.js#L131-L138 | 18:22 |
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| sdague | are the two examples of what you have to do for old vs. new screens | 18:22 |
| waynr | zaro: ah, i didn't see the release tag on the github repo | 18:22 |
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| mordred | clarkb: all three ipv4 work for me - I don't have ipv6 here, but I have no reason to suspect that they will not also work | 18:23 |
| mordred | in places with ipv6 | 18:23 |
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| clarkb | ipv6 did work for me | 18:24 |
| clarkb | should I update A and AAAA after lunch then? | 18:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 18:24 |
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| waynr | zaro: https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/p/python-jenkins/ | 18:28 |
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| waynr | is 0.4.0 the version you are expecting to be pulled in? that timestamp looks older than the merge with the plugin info retrieval methods | 18:29 |
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| sdague | zaro: https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=2998 | 18:31 |
| sdague | hows that | 18:31 |
| zaro | waynr: ohh right, i guess we need another release. i'll generate one today. | 18:31 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: So, I’ve got what, 40 minutes? | 18:36 |
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| zaro | sdague: looks great, thanks. I haven't made any UI contributions yet so probably not my area of expertise. I'll try to get one of the cores to look at the issue and see if there's any obvious reason that the tags are not there. | 18:38 |
| mordred | krotscheck: yes | 18:38 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: although assume that's 40 minutes of us all arguing like kittens with a thousand dangling strings | 18:38 |
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| krotscheck | Maybe I’ll split people into working groups :) | 18:39 |
| krotscheck | So that at least your strings will be different colors. | 18:39 |
| rcarrillocruz | didn't gerrit use mysql from DBaaS at some point? or did I dream about it? | 18:40 |
| rcarrillocruz | zaro: hi :-) , do you know ^ ? | 18:40 |
| zaro | rcarrillocruz: yes, we are using it now. | 18:41 |
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| zaro | i think the name is now trove | 18:41 |
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| rcarrillocruz | y | 18:42 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, thx explains why getting an instance for gerrit doesn't work ootb, mysql package is no longer installed as it used to | 18:42 |
| rcarrillocruz | forgot about this trove thing | 18:42 |
| rcarrillocruz | perfect excuse to use Trove on my HP Cloud account then i guess :-) | 18:43 |
| clarkb | you can still use local mysql | 18:43 |
| clarkb | just set it up independent of gerrit and give gerrit connection info | 18:44 |
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| zaro | rcarrillocruz: are you setting up in prod env? if not you can just use the included H2 db for testing. | 18:45 |
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| zaro | waynr: ok, python-jenkins ver 4.1 is available. | 18:46 |
| rcarrillocruz | yah, just testing upstream manifests to see how consumable they are from a downstream perspective | 18:47 |
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| rcarrillocruz | i'm currently working on a vagrantfile with openstack plugin to build a full infra for development | 18:47 |
| rcarrillocruz | so the less manifest tweaking, the better | 18:48 |
| mordred | vagrant *me shudders* | 18:48 |
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| wenlock | rcarrillocruz, have you checked out forj.io ? | 18:49 |
| wenlock | rcarrillocruz, we're doing that , it's called redstone | 18:49 |
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| rcarrillocruz | yep, i've actually volunteered to look at it in my team to see how it works | 18:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | when i'll 'some time' after the summit | 18:50 |
| rcarrillocruz | hope things will settle a bit | 18:50 |
| wenlock | rcarrillocruz, awesome | 18:51 |
| rcarrillocruz | been also a father recently, so i've been a bit overwhelmed the past few weeks :S | 18:51 |
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| wenlock | rcarrillocruz, congrats, i don't miss the lack of sleep thingy | 18:52 |
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| waynr | zaro: cool, i'll work on the hipchat notifier plugin JJB support then | 18:54 |
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| wenlock | rcarrillocruz, your welcome to join us on #forj as well if you get to hacking on it. | 18:54 |
| rcarrillocruz | sure i will | 18:54 |
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| rcarrillocruz | thx :-) | 18:55 |
| AJaeger | has anybody seen openstackgerrit lately? Is he or she currently on the way to Paris without internet access? | 18:57 |
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| clarkb | took a vacation I think | 18:58 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: openstackgerrit deserves a vacation after all the hard work... | 19:01 |
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| dougwig | hi infra. what is the feasibility of adding another meeting channel? the sweet spot for us/europe, of around 1500utc +/- a few, is pretty crowded. | 19:26 |
| mordred | dougwig: TOTALLY feasible/easy technically - I think I'd defer to ttx in who manages schedule and content on whether to do it | 19:28 |
| mordred | ttx: ^^ ?? | 19:28 |
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| sdague | it's getting late for ttx on a day he doesn't have scheduled meetings | 19:49 |
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| mordred | yah | 19:59 |
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| mordred | sdague, jogo: I just learned that the interfae for specifying that you want to terminate a volume you booted from when the instance is deleted is to add ::::1 to the end of the volume id | 19:59 |
| mordred | sdague, jogo: was someone actually sitting around eating peyote when that decision was made? | 20:00 |
| mordred | I mean, I know I'm normally pretty caustic and whatnot about some of our choices - but that's really above and beyond the craziest thing I've ever heard | 20:01 |
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| sdague | I'm not going to defend any of those choices :) | 20:05 |
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| mtreinish | mordred: wait what!? | 20:07 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: http://paste.openstack.org/show/127193/ | 20:08 |
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| jogo | mordred: wow just wow | 20:08 |
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| jogo | mordred: did you find any documentation on that? | 20:11 |
| mordred | jogo: nope. this is just me taking a patch to an ansible module and reworking it on top of my new stuff | 20:13 |
| mordred | jogo: I have not yet tested this | 20:13 |
| mordred | jgriffith: ^^ do you know if I'm smoking crack here? | 20:13 |
| jogo | mordred: ahh http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/attach_block_storage.html | 20:14 |
| mordred | jogo: AAHHHH | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah I found that too, but look at the novaclient code | 20:15 |
| mordred | jogo: why would that not want to pass in a dict? why would one do a : thing | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | "<dev-name>=<id>:<type>:<size(GB)>:<delete-on-terminate>." | 20:15 |
| ashp | argh, whole new infrastructure, same damn problem where zuul triggers a job to run and it seems like jenkins ignores it or doesn't notice, the frustrating thing is it sometimes works :( | 20:15 |
| mtreinish | it's still the craziness on the api, the client is just abstracting it away | 20:16 |
| jogo | mordred: its been around since 2011 | 20:16 |
| jogo | mordred: pre gerit in fact | 20:17 |
| mtreinish | jogo: nm, just ignore me I can't read docs apparently | 20:18 |
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| ashp | surely someone else has seen this with jenkins/gearman by now, some sort of tcp idle timeout or something | 20:19 |
| ashp | and unclicking/reclicking to use gearman kicks it back into action | 20:19 |
| jogo | mtreinish: the client doesn't even abstract away the insanity it just documents it :) | 20:19 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah, that's what I meant, I misread the docs as delete-on-terminate being a flag. When I looked at the code I put it together... | 20:20 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: yeah, its really insane | 20:23 |
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| waynr | zaro: so i'm thinking about pulling plugin info sometime shortly before or during Builder initialization and adding it to the global config that gets passed to everything, then making it available in the module registry which I believe is accessible from all modules, does that sound sane? | 20:47 |
| clarkb | ok I have eaten and all that | 20:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: should I go ahead and update git.o.o dns? | 20:48 |
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| clarkb | I am using the gui to update dns because I don't know how to remove old records with the client and am impatient enough to not find out | 20:54 |
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| greghaynes | bewarned, I just heard him say "screw it, its thursday" | 21:03 |
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| clarkb | ok I updated records they had 60 minute ttls though so it mmay be a little while before everything is using new host | 21:05 |
| clarkb | I am watching | 21:05 |
| clarkb | rax dns is showing the new records | 21:07 |
| clarkb | but slaves use google dns so we may be cached there for a bit depending on locality | 21:07 |
| clarkb | please let me know if anything funny happens | 21:07 |
| nibalizer | sweet | 21:07 |
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| boris-42 | clarkb hi there | 21:08 |
| boris-42 | clarkb one small question =) | 21:08 |
| clarkb | boris-42: sure | 21:08 |
| clarkb | I am seeing connections come in on haproxy on the new node | 21:10 |
| clarkb | so far it seems good | 21:10 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so there is such thing like docker =) | 21:10 |
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| boris-42 | clarkb and they have docker hub | 21:11 |
| boris-42 | clarkb and if you allow access of their APP to your github repo you are able to upload new docker images on every patch | 21:11 |
| boris-42 | clarkb can we allow docker hub to access stackforge/rally project? | 21:11 |
| clarkb | my gut reaction is no, but what kind of access? | 21:12 |
| clarkb | we don't treat github as a supported thing for stuff like that. its just a mirror | 21:12 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so stupid "integration" | 21:12 |
| clarkb | I don't know what that means in github speak | 21:12 |
| boris-42 | clarkb with github.. | 21:12 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so it's similar stuff like APP for face books that can perform actions as you* | 21:13 |
| boris-42 | facebook* | 21:13 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so basically you go to hub.docker. click some button it redirects you to github and then you click "allow docker access to this repo" | 21:14 |
| clarkb | but docker already has access to all our repos. they are public. So I guess the question is what sort of additional rights do they do? | 21:14 |
| clarkb | er do they need | 21:15 |
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| clarkb | but in general no we don't do anything special in github because we don't support it | 21:15 |
| clarkb | if github is done oh well | 21:15 |
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| clarkb | s/done/down/ | 21:15 |
| boris-42 | clarkb I think that they don't need anything special, except be sure that you are owner of repo | 21:16 |
| boris-42 | clarkb and this is simplest way to check, cause only owner can allow dockerapp | 21:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ do you know? you have been playing with docker | 21:17 |
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| boris-42 | clarkb it's more about https://docs.docker.com/userguide/dockerrepos/ | 21:18 |
| clarkb | boris-42: as an alternative can we trigger builds with them? or do build slocally and upload to them? | 21:18 |
| clarkb | this is how rtfd and pypi work | 21:18 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so about uploading | 21:18 |
| boris-42 | clarkb yes we can but it requires open password* | 21:18 |
| boris-42 | clarkb to upload to hub.docker you have to specify password.. | 21:18 |
| clarkb | boris-42: thats true of pypi too | 21:19 |
| clarkb | we do that with dedicated upload nodes on separate jenkins masters | 21:19 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so basically we can make this for all projects | 21:19 |
| boris-42 | clarkb like create hub account for openstack | 21:20 |
| boris-42 | and stackforge | 21:20 |
| boris-42 | and have somewhere hidden passwords ? | 21:20 |
| clarkb | ya | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | at least that is more like how we deal with this stuff for other services | 21:20 |
| boris-42 | clarkb so could we help with this? | 21:20 |
| clarkb | sure anyone can make jenkins jobs | 21:20 |
| clarkb | or edit puppet to deal with credentials | 21:20 |
| clarkb | but I would talk to mordred | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | he has been playing with docker recently | 21:21 |
| clarkb | I hav etried and give up every time because it can't do the things I want it to do :) | 21:21 |
| boris-42 | clarkb =) | 21:21 |
| boris-42 | clarkb and we would like just to make docker images with rally on every release + keep one that is updated from master on every patch | 21:21 |
| boris-42 | clarkb that can simplify first steps with rally=) | 21:22 |
| mordred | boris-42: yes, lets connect on this at the summit | 21:23 |
| boris-42 | mordred great | 21:23 |
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| boris-42 | mordred clarkb so basically we made this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131389/ | 21:25 |
| boris-42 | mordred clarkb created separated repo (allow docker access) and job that do stuff | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | mordred: are you getting new git.o.o A and AAAA records yet? | 21:26 |
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| clarkb | I am trying to make sure cacti sees ne wnode now (there was an empty space in graphs. snmpd has been restarted on new git.o.o | 21:28 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: $: host git.openstack.org | 21:31 |
| nibalizer | git.openstack.org has address 23.253.99.217 | 21:31 |
| nibalizer | git.openstack.org has IPv6 address 2001:4800:7815:102:f5f1:6ed9:efd5:7ccc | 21:31 |
| nibalizer | is that 'new' ? | 21:31 |
| clarkb | ya | 21:31 |
| mordred | boris-42: awesome... but I think we can add some even cooler things | 21:33 |
| boris-42 | mordred agree | 21:33 |
| mordred | I'm excited | 21:34 |
| boris-42 | mordred if we can use open passwords | 21:34 |
| boris-42 | mordred it can be done for all projects | 21:34 |
| boris-42 | mordred without github account access | 21:34 |
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| boris-42 | mordred and as far as clarkb said we can do that=) | 21:34 |
| boris-42 | so I think we will start work in that direction | 21:34 |
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| mordred | yup | 21:35 |
| mordred | that's exactly right | 21:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: do you know how to make cacti happy with new git.o.o? | 21:36 |
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| clarkb | oh nevermind its finally drawin | 21:36 |
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| kdomico | Hi! First time contributor here. I'm getting a build failure with the error: "Could not fetch origin". Should I do a re-check in this case? | 21:46 |
| clarkb | kdomico: can you link to the failure? (I am trying to fix that issue and want ot make sure I didn't make it worse) the way to recheck is leave a comment of 'recheck' on the change | 21:47 |
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| kdomico | Yup: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132107/ | 21:47 |
| kdomico | Actually, here's the console: http://logs.openstack.org/07/132107/1/check/gate-stackalytics-python33/db5318c/console.html | 21:48 |
| clarkb | ok that was prior to my fixing thanks | 21:48 |
| kdomico | ok thanks | 21:49 |
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| tchaypo | clarkb: sorry about continually having to run away in the middle of this conversation... | 22:23 |
| tchaypo | but if I understand correctly, every CI build we do will potentially (if it's not on local disk already) be downloading the cloudimgs direct from the source? | 22:25 |
| clarkb | yup | 22:26 |
| clarkb | but we can cache on image if you update the image build | 22:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | question regarding stackforge repos - i am on the release team of one a stackforge project and i want to create a new tag and branch | 22:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | how should i go about it? | 22:28 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | would greatly appreciate if any of the infra team folks can provide a pointer for the above | 22:29 |
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| clarkb | there is a wiki section. one sec | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i tried to push a branch by it was rejected by gerrit and git.openstack returned a 403 | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: thanks much | 22:30 |
| SumitNaiksatam | by -> but | 22:30 |
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| clarkb | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit under tagging a release | 22:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: thanks, let me check | 22:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: what about creating a branch…i tried doing this: git push gerrit test:test | 22:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and got back: | 22:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ! [remote rejected] test -> test (prohibited by Gerrit) | 22:36 |
| openstack | SumitNaiksatam: Error: "remote" is not a valid command. | 22:36 |
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| clarkb | you cannot crrate branches that way | 22:37 |
| clarkb | it requires force perms which we dont give out | 22:37 |
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| clarkb | you can probably do it in the ui though if you are in the right group | 22:38 |
| tchaypo | clarkb: because each build tends to happen on a machine that's done a previous build, so ~/.cache/image-create should have most images already cached, right? | 22:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: i have set up this project ACL: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/gerrit/acls/stackforge/group-based-policy.config | 22:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: and i am part of the release group | 22:39 |
| clarkb | tchaypo no all nodes are single use booted from an image we make once a day to cache things | 22:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: so you are saying the branch can be created from the gerrit UI? | 22:40 |
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| tchaypo | ah right | 22:41 |
| tchaypo | I'm guessing we use diskimage-builder to create that image? | 22:41 |
| clarkb | doesnt look like you can creatw branches only tags | 22:42 |
| jgriffith | mordred: yeah... Kooky ain't it? | 22:42 |
| clarkb | tchaypo not today. trying to but its been a pain | 22:42 |
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| mtreinish | jgriffith: where did that syntax come from? | 22:43 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: been there since the "good old days" | 22:43 |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: I believe it was there back in Nova time frame | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | yeah, jogo said it was date back to pre-gerrit | 22:44 |
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| mtreinish | I was just hoping there was a good reason for it | 22:44 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: yeah... I guess "Nova" time frame is a stupid statement :) | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | instead of it's always been that way | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: heh, I knew what you meant. Basically pre-cinder right? :) | 22:45 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: yeah | 22:45 |
| jgriffith | you know what I mean :) | 22:45 |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: Maybe I should put it on my list of things to do in Kilo to see if I can't propose an alternative | 22:46 |
| jgriffith | that doesn't make people run screaming | 22:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: ok thanks, however i do see that some stackforge projects have branches, for example: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-compute | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: yeah that would be a good idea. Although I guess it would be interpreted as a breaking api change :) | 22:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: i was also looking at the same question answered here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-June/001301.html | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: key emphasis on "alternate" :) | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: not replacement :) | 22:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | clarkb: just wondering if i am missing any permissions | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: I've yet to meet anybody that knows all those switches off the top of their head anyway | 22:48 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: I'm sure there's some folks, but not many | 22:48 |
| mtreinish | ah, ok. I see that now. | 22:48 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: yeah, I wouldn't expect there to be very many either | 22:50 |
| jgriffith | mordred: mtreinish anyway... suspect the command was just entirely too huge so the 4 were rolled into that shortened notation | 22:51 |
| jgriffith | 4 args that is | 22:51 |
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| mtreinish | jgriffith: maybe, but I'm not sure why they didn't just put it in the request payload as separate optional fields | 22:56 |
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| mordred | mtreinish: ++ | 23:01 |
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| jogo | mordred: with the move to micro versioned APIs it will be easier to change this in a backwards compat way | 23:24 |
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| mordred | jogo: well, the problem is that it actually doesn't matter to me too much | 23:57 |
| mordred | jogo: what we do with the rest APIs | 23:57 |
| mordred | because as a client consumer library a thing is going to have to be able to handle the non-clean version too | 23:57 |
| mordred | so it's really just a thing to rant about | 23:57 |
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