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clarkb | pleia2: do you still have the output from launch-node handy? it should print out the cmmands to run at the end. we can get it to reprint if we need to | 00:00 |
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clarkb | pleia2: the only thing to keep in mind is that it will print two sets one for the old ip and one for the new one | 00:00 |
clarkb | pleia2: so you just have to figure out which is which (I tpically dig the current dns records to figure out which set is which) | 00:00 |
pleia2 | clarkb: I don't, but we have some docs at http://ci.openstack.org/sysadmin.html#backups which may be sufficient | 00:00 |
clarkb | pleia2: I think there is a flag to launch node where it just prints out dns info, let me find that | 00:00 |
clarkb | pleia2: its the dns.py script in launch/ | 00:01 |
clarkb | pleia2: so you do something like `python dns.py $fqdn` | 00:01 |
pleia2 | ah, yeah, actually this isn't helpful, as all this stuff was copied over in the rsync | 00:01 |
pleia2 | k | 00:02 |
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jeblair | clarkb, pleia2: also, i think those commands will just _add_ the A/AAAA records, so we need to delete the old ones, otherwise we will dns rr between them | 00:04 |
clarkb | jeblair: oh right good point | 00:04 |
clarkb | and I tend to find myself deleting via the webui because figuring out the rax dns client is weird | 00:04 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: so the root user on each system will want to accept the backups server key? | 00:05 |
jeblair | me too | 00:05 |
clarkb | pleia2: yup | 00:05 |
clarkb | I can delete the old dns records if it helps | 00:05 |
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jeblair | pleia2: see the last paragraph of http://ci.openstack.org/sysadmin.html#backups | 00:06 |
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pleia2 | jeblair: ah yes, good | 00:07 |
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anteaya | clarkb Sukhdev sure | 00:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.log for critical nova regression https://review.openstack.org/160435 | 00:09 |
clarkb | oh cool my thought on what oslo.log was doing was correct | 00:11 |
jogo | dtroyer: the list, search for x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc on http://logs.openstack.org/94/160494/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/85e0294//logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-03-02_21_59_00_996 | 00:14 |
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jogo | dtroyer: list of things we are compiling | 00:14 |
pleia2 | ok, ssh keys accepted | 00:14 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: want to delete first then I can run dns.py? | 00:14 |
jogo | not sure if any specific one is very slow but that is 68 compiles | 00:14 |
clarkb | pleia2: sure, just the rax host records right? | 00:14 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: yeah, no hp server yet | 00:15 |
pleia2 | clarkb: well, the hp server is completely gone, so I guess we could delete those | 00:15 |
clarkb | pleia2: ok will delete both sets | 00:15 |
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dtroyer | jogo: and how many are there in a straight run? Everything in that list is something that choked in a venv | 00:15 |
clarkb | looks like its just A records to worry about | 00:15 |
dtroyer | this is the proce of not using system packages | 00:15 |
jogo | dtroyer: ohh so this could be venv related? | 00:16 |
jogo | dtroyer: are there fixes for those up? | 00:16 |
dtroyer | yes. this is ALL venv related, that's the whole reason we're building wheels | 00:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add nodepool-launcher spec https://review.openstack.org/140812 | 00:17 |
clarkb | pleia2: done | 00:17 |
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mordred | SpamapS, greghaynes is there an "easy" dib cantrip for "I want to install this thing via pip from a git repo" ? | 00:18 |
jogo | dtroyer: right, but if there are some fixes outstanding for these things, maybe those will bring the stack.sh time back down | 00:18 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: thanks, running script now | 00:18 |
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dtroyer | jogo: https://review.openstack.org/156883 is the first in the chain of wip venvs for services | 00:18 |
clarkb | pleia2: remember to only run the half of the commands for the new node | 00:18 |
dtroyer | nothing is going to bring those times down (per-run) except building the wheels with nodepool | 00:19 |
clarkb | or putting wheels in the mirror | 00:19 |
jogo | dtroyer: http://logs.openstack.org/84/156884/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/16f789b/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz (from one of your patches) is still pretty slow | 00:20 |
dtroyer | clarkb: that's above my pay grade | 00:20 |
clarkb | dtroyer: :) | 00:20 |
dtroyer | fwiw, just touch $DEST/.wheelhouse and stack.sh will skip the whole thing… | 00:21 |
pleia2 | clarkb: sourced the creds file and set the FQDN, then ran it, it didn't error... can you take a look at the dns records to see if it did the right thing? | 00:21 |
clarkb | pleia2: sure | 00:21 |
marun | anteaya: can do | 00:21 |
clarkb | pleia2: you added an A record for the rax host? | 00:22 |
jogo | dtroyer: can you comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160548/1 ? | 00:22 |
jogo | dtroyer: as I think mtreinish's patch should help speed things up. clarkb your thoughts too | 00:22 |
pleia2 | clarkb: I ran the dns script for ci-backup-rs-ord.openstack.org | 00:22 |
clarkb | oh btw rax reboots this week | 00:22 |
jogo | 20 minutes for devstack is too long IMHO | 00:22 |
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clarkb | pleia2: oh the dns script should only print out commands to run | 00:23 |
pleia2 | ah, dns script just gave me security warnings | 00:23 |
pleia2 | I'll have a look at it | 00:23 |
mordred | SpamapS, greghaynes: nm | 00:25 |
clarkb | pleia2: I think thats failing on the same nova catalog thing | 00:25 |
clarkb | pleia2: which is good fun | 00:25 |
anteaya | marun: thanks | 00:25 |
greghaynes | mordred: weve solved that problem numerous ways | 00:26 |
greghaynes | not sure which one I like best | 00:26 |
greghaynes | mordred: curious how youre doing it? | 00:26 |
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clarkb | mordred: I think we need to add your fix for launch node into dns.py ya? | 00:27 |
mordred | greghaynes: I decided to go for source-repositories | 00:27 |
clarkb | also maybe if we just update keysteonclient its fixed now? | 00:27 |
pleia2 | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/185646/ | 00:27 |
* clarkb tries with a virtualenv | 00:27 | |
mordred | clarkb: yes. if you update keystoneclient it _should_ be fixed | 00:27 |
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clarkb | nope still not working | 00:29 |
pleia2 | welp, openstack is broken | 00:30 |
openstackgerrit | Maru Newby proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add the neutron func job (nv) to devstack-gate https://review.openstack.org/159672 | 00:30 |
clarkb | OH! | 00:30 |
clarkb | because its ord not dfw | 00:30 |
marun | anteaya: done | 00:30 |
pleia2 | oh bother, not that again | 00:30 |
pleia2 | setting the proper envar | 00:31 |
clarkb | ya that fixed it for me but I was also using my venv so possible that you also need new keystonecleint | 00:31 |
pleia2 | clarkb: thanks, much better | 00:31 |
jeblair | pleia2: we all get to take a drink every time one of us forgets to do that! | 00:32 |
pleia2 | jeblair: haha | 00:32 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: ok, finally done, I even added the correct (new) server | 00:34 |
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clarkb | woot | 00:34 |
anteaya | marun: thanks | 00:34 |
anteaya | pleia2: yay | 00:35 |
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pleia2 | (added both the A and AAAA) | 00:35 |
clarkb | if jenkins04 holds up I will likely update the other servers towards the end of the week to ssh-slaves version 1.9 | 00:36 |
clarkb | but I will keep an eye on 04's thread list to see if it is leaking those remote computer threads | 00:36 |
jogo | clarkb: so I would like to get to the bottom of why it takes devstack 20 minutes to boot. | 00:37 |
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clarkb | jogo: I think dtroyer explained it | 00:37 |
openstackgerrit | Ben Swartzlander proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Set manila tempest job concurrency to 12 https://review.openstack.org/160577 | 00:37 |
clarkb | jogo: its the added cost of installing pacakages with pip that include long compiles | 00:37 |
StevenK | pleia2: WRT to helping on Zanata, I'm happy to pivot back to staring at the Java client if the Python client isn't going to really help | 00:39 |
pleia2 | StevenK: so re: python client for zanata, I think we probably do want to invest time in working with redhat to maintain it (that seemed to be the consensus at the summit) | 00:39 |
pleia2 | StevenK: and I added you to the story to package it, so congratulations! ;) | 00:39 |
openstackgerrit | Timothy R. Chavez proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Print instance UUID to log https://review.openstack.org/156252 | 00:39 |
pleia2 | tasks++ | 00:39 |
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jogo | clarkb: so how do we go forward? looking at his venv patches they don't speed things up | 00:40 |
pleia2 | StevenK: but maybe we should bring it up on list again so AJaeger can chime in (he's in europe, so it occurs to me that he'll never see you) | 00:40 |
jeblair | clarkb, yolanda: I think I may have merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133249/ in error... does that seem to you that it might be the case? | 00:40 |
StevenK | pleia2: Or in my evening | 00:41 |
clarkb | jeblair: looking | 00:41 |
clarkb | jeblair: nope you had askedaboutthat one right after you hit the go button and I was fine with it | 00:41 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add config-drive element https://review.openstack.org/154132 | 00:41 |
clarkb | jeblair: since the thing I mentioned in my review was addressed | 00:41 |
jeblair | clarkb: oh, ok. | 00:42 |
mordred | SpamapS: ^^ look at the systemd things that Ng did | 00:42 |
clarkb | jogo: did we expect them to speed things up? | 00:42 |
clarkb | jeblair: maybe leave a comment on the change about it? | 00:42 |
pleia2 | StevenK: I'm happy we got licensing fixed on the java client, even if that meant that it was not BSD or Apache, but LGPL (what?) | 00:42 |
mordred | SpamapS: basically, the obviate the need for that other script | 00:42 |
pleia2 | "it's BSD here, and Apache here, which is it?" "LGPL" D: | 00:42 |
StevenK | pleia2: I think trying to assemble something working from the maven artifacts is going to end in pain, so I need to find the github for the java client | 00:42 |
jeblair | clarkb: okay, i have left a note for myself for the next time I see that. :) | 00:42 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Retitle some specs for clarity https://review.openstack.org/160580 | 00:42 |
StevenK | pleia2: The Python client is LGPL2 | 00:42 |
StevenK | Er, LGPL2+ | 00:43 |
SpamapS | mordred: yeah that looks simpler than the upstart for the most part. :) | 00:43 |
mordred | SpamapS: I'm thinking we coudl make the upstart stuff work basically the same | 00:43 |
StevenK | pleia2: They ship a copy of the GPLv3 and the LGPLv2.1 license with the Python client, but the source files are LGPL2+. Argh! | 00:44 |
SpamapS | mordred: yeah | 00:44 |
jogo | clarkb: no, but we need to speed things up anyway | 00:44 |
pleia2 | StevenK: I think this is the source for the java one https://github.com/zanata/zanata-client (readme seems to think so) | 00:44 |
pleia2 | looks like someone is poking around the python client at least, last update 6 days ago https://github.com/zanata/zanata-python-client | 00:44 |
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mordred | SpamapS: like, I _think_ should be able to make bin/process-config-drive go away | 00:44 |
SpamapS | mordred: right, in upstart you'd just add it to fstab with noauto, and then in pre-start, 'mount /mnt/config' | 00:44 |
jogo | clarkb: ahh cool looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160548/ is a good start and a first step for something | 00:45 |
StevenK | pleia2: Yeah, I went looking on github and that's when I found the Python client | 00:45 |
StevenK | pleia2: Which I've mostly packaged | 00:45 |
jeblair | pleia2, StevenK: catch me up here -- can we/will we use the python client? i like it when our tooling uses python :) | 00:45 |
SpamapS | mordred: it kind of looks like the upstart one doesn't even have the mounting bit? | 00:45 |
mordred | SpamapS: the script doesn't change anything in networking if there is nothing to pull from config-drive | 00:45 |
clarkb | jogo: yup reasonable to start there | 00:45 |
mordred | SpamapS: it seems like as long as we can get it to run before the start network events fire | 00:46 |
mordred | SpamapS: then we could even have the dhcp files sitting on the machine before hand | 00:46 |
mordred | SpamapS: yeah? | 00:46 |
pleia2 | StevenK: oh good | 00:46 |
pleia2 | jeblair: the python client for zanata is only "kind of" maintained, not many folks in the redhat community were using it (they use the java one) | 00:46 |
SpamapS | mordred: sadly no. if you have the dhcp interfaces sitting around, udev will ifup them and they'll dhcp as soon as possible. | 00:46 |
pleia2 | jeblair: AJaeger knows more about the state it's in, but I think we convinced redhat to give the python client some love while we were at summit since we want to use it | 00:47 |
SpamapS | start on net-device-added | 00:47 |
mordred | SpamapS: ok. so we need to have the files be blank in all cases, and then just make sure that we write out dhcp files if there's nothing in config drive, yeah? | 00:47 |
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SpamapS | mordred: network-interface will see it, and ifup it, and now you're waiting on dhcp. | 00:47 |
jeblair | pleia2: cool | 00:47 |
pleia2 | uses too | 00:48 |
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SpamapS | mordred: right, thats why we added the dhcp-all-interfaces thing. | 00:48 |
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SpamapS | mordred: oh hm, you could maybe have the dhcp ones there, but in the group "dhcp" instead of "auto", and then have your config-drive-finder run 'ifup --allow=dhcp -a' | 00:49 |
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SpamapS | mordred: I mean have your config-drive-finder run that if it can't find a config drive. | 00:50 |
SpamapS | that would produce an image that works in both cases. | 00:50 |
jogo | clarkb: ohh the slow down is very recent | 00:50 |
jogo | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1311066 | 00:50 |
jogo | dtroyer: ^ | 00:50 |
jeblair | jogo, mordred: pbr released today | 00:51 |
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mordred | I thought it did a speedup? | 00:51 |
mordred | we're seeing a slow-down in a different place? | 00:51 |
SpamapS | mordred: bbl, have to run fetch chidren | 00:51 |
SpamapS | children | 00:51 |
clarkb | hrm 04 may still be leaking those threads | 00:51 |
jogo | jeblair: that was a speedup for running rootwrap, can't speak for anything else | 00:51 |
jogo | mordred: what time was your release? | 00:52 |
Shrews | SpamapS: hoping you meant *your* children | 00:52 |
jogo | checking timestamps in logstash.o.o | 00:52 |
Shrews | mordred: ugh. do i really want to review your shade keystone projects patch? | 00:52 |
mordred | jogo: 18:32 UTC | 00:53 |
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mordred | Shrews: probably not | 00:53 |
mordred | Shrews: you can wait if you want - it needs to grow domain parameters | 00:53 |
Shrews | mordred: then i shall wait | 00:54 |
clarkb | I take that back 04 does seem to be able to cleanup the forRemoting threads so mabye it isn't leaking them \o/ time will tell | 00:54 |
clarkb | dstufft: so given the wheelhouse with findlinks, if say lxml updates their version on pypi will pip grab and build that or iwll it insist on using the wheelhouse version? | 00:55 |
StevenK | pleia2: Some way to test the Python client functionaility would be awesome | 00:57 |
jogo | mordred: hmm seeing the failures before pbr | 00:57 |
mordred | jogo: that time is when I announced it in IRC, fwiw | 00:59 |
mordred | jogo: it could have released 10-15 minutes before that | 00:59 |
pleia2 | StevenK: yeah, care to start a thread on openstack-infra and cc: camunoz@redhat.com to chat about the state of the python client? I hope to have our own server up soon that we can do tests against our own stuff (but java app+plugins+puppet is tricky, slow going) | 01:00 |
clarkb | fwiw 05 looks like it may be in similar trouble to what 04 had | 01:00 |
jogo | mordred: seeing it way before then, I think but logstash is really slow for some reason | 01:00 |
clarkb | melody claims close to 9k threads in the graph, trying to get exact number now | 01:00 |
jogo | mordred: looks like closer to 20-24 hours ago | 01:01 |
StevenK | pleia2: Let me follow your link to the Java client rather than using the Maven artifacts, and if that gets me closer then we have two. | 01:01 |
pleia2 | StevenK: ok | 01:01 |
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pleia2 | ugh, still didn't get to asselin's netcat gerrit tester for firewalls and it's hour 10 of my day :\ | 01:03 |
clarkb | jogo: possible that one of those dependencies released and resulted in a much longer ocmpile? | 01:03 |
mordred | jroll: I have a stupid question ... | 01:03 |
mordred | actually | 01:03 |
mordred | JayF: ^^ you too | 01:03 |
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pleia2 | I'll see what I can get done in the morning, doing some evening now | 01:03 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Only query jenkins plugins if config provided https://review.openstack.org/158826 | 01:03 |
jogo | clarkb: maybe, will have to resume this a bit later though | 01:03 |
clarkb | pleia2: what do we need there just netcat -kl 29418 running in screen? | 01:03 |
mordred | JayF, jroll: the nova patch to add static network config info to config-drive | 01:03 |
mordred | what happens if a deployer is a dhcp deploy? | 01:04 |
mordred | does the network info still show up in config-drive? | 01:04 |
jroll | mordred: it just passes what neutron knows into the configdrive | 01:04 |
pleia2 | clarkb: I think so, but I figured we'd want it puppetized and all | 01:04 |
mordred | jroll: so it does it always | 01:04 |
jroll | mordred: the NetworkInfo object or whatever on the instance | 01:04 |
jroll | mordred: I think so but unsure | 01:04 |
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clarkb | melody says 05 has almost hist 10k threads and is just above 9k now | 01:04 |
JayF | JoshNang: ^ is actually the owner of that patch fwiw | 01:05 |
JayF | do you know JoshNang ? | 01:05 |
mordred | k. so, at some point in the future when it hits nova and that patch hits a cloud that _Does_ have dhcp, we'll want to figure out how to differentiate | 01:05 |
mordred | JayF: I don't think so? | 01:05 |
JoshNang | o/ | 01:05 |
mordred | JoshNang: ohai1 | 01:05 |
mordred | ! | 01:05 |
mordred | JoshNang: neutron metadata into config-drive | 01:05 |
JayF | he sits across from me and jroll (aweeks is beside him) | 01:05 |
JayF | we're all one chunk of Ironic goodness in Rackspace :P | 01:06 |
mordred | JoshNang: I'm curious as to what the world looks like when that patch hits a cloud that does run with dhcp | 01:06 |
JoshNang | mordred: lemme pull up the review...it was quite awhile that i actually wrote this code :/ | 01:06 |
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clarkb | I am putting 05 in shutdown mode now so that we stop relying on it while its in an unhappy place | 01:06 |
mordred | JoshNang: will there be any way for a node to tell from the config-drive metadata that it should do static config or that it should do cloud dhcp | 01:06 |
mordred | JoshNang: thansk! | 01:06 |
mordred | JoshNang: (also, thank you for writing the patch) | 01:07 |
clarkb | and with that its the end of the day for me | 01:07 |
JoshNang | mordred: np! :D | 01:07 |
JoshNang | so, if its configured by dhcp, the network type should be ipv[4|6]_dhcp | 01:08 |
JoshNang | where it normally would be ipv[4|6] | 01:08 |
anteaya | clarkb: happy end of the day | 01:08 |
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mordred | JoshNang: AWESOME! Thank you!!!! | 01:09 |
JoshNang | mordred: :D | 01:09 |
anteaya | I should do the same, next meeting in less than 7 hours | 01:09 |
mordred | JoshNang: that makes everything so much easier than I was fearing | 01:10 |
JoshNang | mordred: woooooo! now i've never tested that beyond unit testing...but i'm reasonably confident it should work | 01:10 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support hacking module <= 0.10.1 https://review.openstack.org/160587 | 01:10 |
greghaynes | clarkb: just ran test locally and looks like pip does the right thing WRT checking upstream index as well as find-links | 01:11 |
mordred | JoshNang: well ... I may send you a link to a thing in just sec to see if you think I'm overly crazy | 01:11 |
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JoshNang | mordred: kk | 01:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Reorder imports to match hacking guidelines https://review.openstack.org/133465 | 01:17 |
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clarkb | jeblair: 160491 and its child should fix a couple zuul test races | 01:21 |
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mordred | clarkb, JayF, jroll, SpamapS: anybody think of any reason why I shouldn't just put this into our fstab? | 01:33 |
mordred | echo "LABEL=config-2 /mnt/config iso9660 ro,auto,nofail 0 2" >> /etc/fstab | 01:33 |
jroll | mordred: I don't see why not, but idk how computers work | 01:33 |
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mordred | jroll: that's fair | 01:33 |
jroll | no reason that label shouldn't be correct though | 01:33 |
* mordred is just thinking he was making this too hard ... | 01:34 | |
JayF | mordred: that works | 01:35 |
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zxiiro | zaro: ping | 01:39 |
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zxiiro | zaro: I've been told I should get your opinion / comment on this patch regarding where to put some functions in JJB https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158989/ | 01:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix os-ansible-deployment publishers one last time https://review.openstack.org/160600 | 01:51 |
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SpamapS | mordred: can we tag more things with nofail | 01:54 |
SpamapS | like, projects | 01:54 |
mordred | SpamapS: I've got an awesome patch coming up for you ... | 01:55 |
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mordred | SpamapS: you're going to LOVE it | 01:55 |
greghaynes | os-nofail-deployment? | 01:56 |
SpamapS | os-nofail-config | 01:56 |
SpamapS | we only do os-something-config | 01:56 |
greghaynes | or maybe thats the name for the second infra cloud - nofail-cloud | 01:56 |
SpamapS | just nofail | 01:57 |
SpamapS | be as ambiguous as cloud | 01:57 |
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mordred | :) | 01:57 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix os-ansible-deployment publishers one last time https://review.openstack.org/160600 | 01:58 |
mordred | SpamapS, greghaynes: glory in this: https://gitorious.org/mordred-temp/process-config-drive/source/42ebd249c82aa2ce5e9ceae10b61f198abf385ba: | 01:59 |
mordred | SpamapS: glory I tell you | 01:59 |
greghaynes | oh wow, gitorious still exists | 01:59 |
jroll | mordred: did you give up on github? | 01:59 |
mordred | greghaynes: yup. I recently realized that unless somebody else forces me to use github for somethign, there is no reason for me to use it willingly | 01:59 |
jroll | s/give up/ragequit/ | 01:59 |
mordred | jroll: well, yeah. it's not free | 01:59 |
jroll | oh | 01:59 |
jroll | yeah. | 01:59 |
mordred | jroll: and the foudners are GIANT ASSHATS | 01:59 |
jroll | gitlab is pretty nice too, btw | 01:59 |
mordred | so I don't really think I should support them | 02:00 |
mordred | I know my abdication will mean little | 02:00 |
mordred | but still - they hate women | 02:00 |
mordred | and free software | 02:00 |
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jroll | great reasons | 02:00 |
mordred | also - usually only use it to toss up temp repos before I import them here anyway :) | 02:00 |
jroll | wait did you just rewrite cloud-init/network_stuff.py | 02:00 |
mordred | yes | 02:00 |
mordred | well, not JUST now | 02:01 |
jogo | mordred: what about gitlab? | 02:01 |
jogo | mordred: well gitorious has a much better name | 02:01 |
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mordred | jogo: there you go :) | 02:01 |
jroll | heh | 02:01 |
sigmavirus24 | GitLab has a more familiar interface and a less complex organizational structure for repositories | 02:01 |
sigmavirus24 | then again, complex may be good | 02:01 |
jogo | mordred: I always thing of The Notorious B.I.G when I hear of gitorious | 02:01 |
* sigmavirus24 hasn't been following the discussion | 02:02 | |
jroll | if you're just using it for temp hosting, either works (then again, so does any server with ssh) | 02:02 |
sigmavirus24 | jroll: ++ | 02:02 |
jroll | but gitlab has decent merge requests etc | 02:02 |
sigmavirus24 | jroll: yeah, I've grown to appreciate gerrit's flow though | 02:02 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add config-drive element https://review.openstack.org/154132 | 02:02 |
jroll | although, working on a gitlab project after using gerrit makes me rage | 02:02 |
jroll | +1 | 02:02 |
mordred | jroll: +100 | 02:02 |
jogo | mtreinish: based on some rough testing, your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160548/1 should save about 5 minutes per job | 02:02 |
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mordred | jroll, SpamapS, greghaynes: if you combine the repo I just showed you with the updated elements in that patch | 02:03 |
mordred | then what you shoudl have is a base instance that always has config-drive if it exists | 02:03 |
mordred | and a script that will either output static config or dhcp | 02:03 |
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jroll | neat | 02:03 |
jroll | even if it is DIB | 02:04 |
* jroll smirks | 02:04 | |
mordred | (one bug todo - but it's a theory that we will not hit until 8 months from now, so there is time0 | 02:04 |
mordred | jroll: :) | 02:04 |
mordred | jroll: you know, you could ditch your cloud-init fork and use process-config-drive | 02:04 |
mordred | jroll: and have unpatched cloud-init run to handle user-data requests :) | 02:04 |
jroll | mordred: we do other things with cloud-init, like user-data and ssh keys | 02:04 |
jroll | oh, true | 02:04 |
mordred | if you're in to that sort of things | 02:04 |
jroll | however our images team would probably kill me | 02:05 |
mordred | yah | 02:05 |
mordred | it's not important | 02:05 |
jroll | and it doesn't really give any benefit at the moment | 02:05 |
jroll | (to us) | 02:05 |
mordred | you've got the pipeline to deal with the complexities of cloud-init full-on | 02:05 |
mordred | whereas it's a really big beast on our end and I'm pretty sure not worth wrangling, considering that script above shoudl do everything we've ever wanted out of ut | 02:05 |
mordred | it | 02:05 |
jroll | you don't have an images team? | 02:05 |
jroll | :P | 02:05 |
mordred | jroll: you're looking at him | 02:05 |
jroll | :) | 02:06 |
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mordred | Ng: ^^ when you wake up - the patch I just updated could use some love to make the upstart as good as the systemd files you made | 02:06 |
mordred | Ng: also - you can remove the mount from the systemd commands | 02:06 |
* mordred has some testing of the above to do - most of it is rage code | 02:06 | |
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jroll | I decided the other day that most software development is driven by rage | 02:07 |
mordred | yup | 02:07 |
mordred | and with that- I will go watch people shoot each other on boardwalk empire | 02:08 |
jroll | heh, have a good one :) | 02:08 |
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SpamapS | mordred: did the latest patch work now that you mount config drive before 'starting networking' ? | 02:09 |
SpamapS | (since networking starts after local-filesystems) | 02:10 |
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asselin | pleia2, tomorrow's fine. I think we should start with what clarkb said. Once that works, then go on to puppetize. although honestly, not sure if it really needs to be puppetized | 02:14 |
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openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb: Fix typo: opensack -> openstack https://review.openstack.org/160604 | 02:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Yuiko Takada proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add translation job for Ironic-discoverd https://review.openstack.org/160610 | 02:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/publications: Updating pie chart https://review.openstack.org/160612 | 02:40 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add spec for reusable OpenStack CI solution https://review.openstack.org/139745 | 02:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Document Cross-Repo Dependencies https://review.openstack.org/158855 | 02:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: update puppet haproxy module to 1.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/160062 | 03:22 |
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nibalizer | i expect http://ci.openstack.org/os-loganalyze to work but it doesn't... can someone help? | 03:27 |
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clarkb | how is it not working? | 03:35 |
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clarkb | it runs as a wsgi app so apache logs may be useful | 03:36 |
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clarkb | oh do you just mean that path I should open url first | 03:37 |
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nibalizer | clarkb: yea now looking, it doesn't look like os-loganalyze has a ton of docs, but just the readme | 03:45 |
nibalizer | but yes my question is 'thats where the docs should be published to, right?' | 03:45 |
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nibalizer | since this works for example http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/ | 03:45 |
clarkb | I dont think it has a doc publishing job | 03:45 |
nibalizer | kk | 03:46 |
nibalizer | should i submit a change to make that happen or :shrug: ? | 03:46 |
clarkb | is there content to publish? | 03:46 |
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dstufft | clarkb: pip will use the newest version it can find, regardless of format, within a version it prefers wheels | 03:56 |
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bhunter71 | in the context of Lucene reindex, is the following line 'bad': | 04:01 |
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bhunter71 | Reindexed 0 changes in 0.5s (0.0/s) | 04:01 |
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ianychoi | Hello. Could somebody help register #openstack-ko channel (discussion in Korean) to make openstack-ko channel logs publicly accessible? | 04:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: zuul-swift-upload support recursive globs https://review.openstack.org/158514 | 04:29 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable swift logs for python jobs https://review.openstack.org/156521 | 04:29 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Upload python test results to swift https://review.openstack.org/156522 | 04:29 |
openstackgerrit | Brian Hunter proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-ko to eavesdrop https://review.openstack.org/160631 | 04:32 |
bhunter71 | mordred/clarkb: Are there any probable causes for "Unpack error on project" in manage-projects/jeepyb? I have this with 4 repositories - and if I clone the upstream, pull all branches, I see nothing in git fsck [ but do see lots of git fsck errors in gerrit's git repos ]. The log isn't very helpful | 04:33 |
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bhunter71 | ^ 4 of 10 repositories have this, and I cannot see any correlation between their configuration and this problem | 04:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Update zuul-changes to use the enqueue command https://review.openstack.org/160015 | 04:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul: Only format swift string parameters https://review.openstack.org/157592 | 05:01 |
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abhishek_cb | hi all, i have setup my CI LogServer and when I am trying to access the logs I am getting the following | 05:24 |
abhishek_cb | You don't have permission to access /htmlify/69/153969/8/check/dsvm-tempest-full/99fbc7d/console.html on this server. | 05:24 |
abhishek_cb | Can anyone help me to resolve this?? | 05:24 |
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deepakcs | clarkb, ping | 05:58 |
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abhishek_cb | hi all, i have setup my CI LogServer and when I am trying to access the logs I am getting the following "You don't have permission to access /htmlify/69/153969/8/check/dsvm-tempest-full/99fbc7d/console.html on this server." Can anyone help me to resolve this?? | 06:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Randy Bertram proposed openstack/requirements: Update Magic Search version https://review.openstack.org/160661 | 06:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Bharat Kumar Kobagana proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Re-enabling the glusterfs job for Cinder https://review.openstack.org/160664 | 06:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fuel plugin for Group Based Policy https://review.openstack.org/160126 | 07:11 |
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AJaeger | ianychoi, you have to register it yourself - see http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html and then send a patch to the project-config repo to have our bots there | 07:33 |
StevenK | AJaeger: O HAI. Is the Python client for Zanata a going concern, or should I be focusing my efforts onto packaging up the Java client? | 07:37 |
AJaeger | Hi StevenK, | 07:37 |
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AJaeger | last time I looked (before Paris), the python client was missing some features that we needed. If those have been implemented in the mean time, we can use it. | 07:38 |
AJaeger | I didn't review again recently | 07:38 |
AJaeger | So, for now I fear we need the Java client unless you want to check whether the python client is good enough - or fix it if not. | 07:39 |
StevenK | AJaeger: I have a package of the Python client already. It needs some polish, but it's pretty much done. I don't know how to check it is actually functional once it's installed, or what we need the client to do that it didn't when you last looked. | 07:41 |
AJaeger | let me search a bit... | 07:41 |
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AJaeger | StevenK, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-October/002014.html starts a thread | 07:43 |
AJaeger | and this is the problem we hit: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2014-October/002022.html | 07:43 |
AJaeger | So, unless the path handling has been improved, we cannot use it. | 07:44 |
AJaeger | Let me check the log from the python client... | 07:44 |
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AJaeger | StevenK, issue seems not ot have been addressed, so we need the java client or some coding ;( | 07:46 |
StevenK | AJaeger: I will continue to slam my head against maven | 07:48 |
AJaeger | Thanks, StevenK ! Much appreciated | 07:48 |
ianychoi | Hello AJaeger, thank you for your comment. I have just executed a chanserv command to give access to openstackinfra, and please see the link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160631/ . | 07:48 |
StevenK | AJaeger: I may require to be plied with beer if you'll be in Vancouver :-P | 07:49 |
AJaeger | ;) Unfortunately I cannot make Vancouver ;( | 07:49 |
ianychoi | Is it enough, or would I need to find additional configurations related to project-config? (The link is related to system-config, not project-config.) | 07:50 |
AJaeger | ianychoi, I'm not sure - let me comment on it and see what the other reviewers say... | 07:50 |
ianychoi | Okay, I see. Thanks :) | 07:51 |
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AJaeger | ianychoi, I double checked, and think we need a patch for project-config/accessbot/channels.yaml as well. But feel free to wait for some definite answers by others ;) | 07:53 |
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ianychoi | AJaeger, #openstack-ko channel is for discussions in Korean, like #openstack-kr channel. I could not find 'openstack-fr' strings on channels.yaml, so in my opinion, without the modification of channels.yaml would be also okay. But, as you said, let's wait for comments from others : ) | 07:58 |
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AJaeger | openstack-fr is in accessbot | 07:59 |
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AJaeger | and openstack-kr is not in the files at all... | 07:59 |
AJaeger | Let's learn together how to do it properly ;) | 07:59 |
ianychoi | Yep! I also want to learn it and happily would like to take notes for future irc channel creators : ) | 08:00 |
AJaeger | ianychoi, patches for http://ci.openstack.org/irc.html are welcome - the source is in system-config repo | 08:01 |
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anteaya | AJaeger: I'm sad you won't be in Vancouver | 08:02 |
anteaya | :( | 08:02 |
ianychoi | I got it : ) | 08:03 |
AJaeger | anteaya, I'm as well - but I planned already last August a long weekend with my wife and haven't figured out how to be at two places at once... | 08:04 |
anteaya | AJaeger: yes it is hard to be in two places at once | 08:06 |
anteaya | better to just focus on being in one place, it yeilds better results | 08:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Make setup.py --help-commands work without testrepository https://review.openstack.org/124652 | 08:15 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stackforge-libra from gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/160683 | 08:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove billingstack from gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/160686 | 08:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Added backup/recovery description to askbot migration spec https://review.openstack.org/160693 | 08:45 |
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openstackgerrit | David Pursehouse proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support to customize trigger-builds block thresholds https://review.openstack.org/154379 | 09:01 |
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devvesa | Hello. I have a question related to a recent change merged in `project-config` | 09:06 |
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devvesa | I've submitted this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159867/ | 09:06 |
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devvesa | and the gate fails because the ERROR_IN_CLONE variable is set to False in `devstack-vm-gate.sh` script | 09:07 |
devvesa | set to True I mean | 09:07 |
devvesa | https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L135 | 09:07 |
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devvesa | to make the gate work, I need to clone the http://github.com/midonet/midonet project | 09:08 |
devvesa | is posible to clone a project that's not part of `stackforge`? | 09:09 |
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devvesa | In my patch I've set the PROJECTS env var to 'stackforge/networking-midonet $PROJECT'. | 09:09 |
devvesa | do I need to add 'midonet/midonet' to PROJECTS too? | 09:10 |
AJaeger | devvesa, better come back in 4 hours and talk with sdague | 09:10 |
AJaeger | adding to PROJECTS should work but adding an external project is quite unusual | 09:10 |
AJaeger | It won't work - PROJECTS only handles repos that are on git.openstack.org and midonet is not | 09:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/requirements: Upgrade oslo.config to version 1.7 https://review.openstack.org/160297 | 09:18 |
openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed openstack/requirements: Upgrade oslo.config to version 1.7 https://review.openstack.org/160297 | 09:19 |
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devvesa | AJaeger: Thanks. I'll think in a workaround | 09:23 |
AJaeger | devvesa, discuss with sdague or clarkb later today (US timezone) | 09:24 |
devvesa | Maybe we need to install midonet from packages instead of clone it | 09:24 |
AJaeger | that'S one way... | 09:25 |
devvesa | AJaeger: I'll do :) | 09:25 |
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GheRivero | morning all | 09:55 |
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nfedotov | Hello All! Does somebody know what happened with https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py ? | 10:03 |
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GheRivero | nfedotov: no idea, but if needed, you can use the one from the github repo: https://github.com/pypa/pip/tree/develop/contrib | 10:09 |
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HeOS | Hi to all! My question is about gerrit. Could you say how I can set wildcard in config of project? I have some branches in my project (1.1.1-updates, 2.2.2-updates, for example) and I want set up once permissions to these branches. I don't received answer on #gerrit channel. :( | 10:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jeepyb: Fix typo: opensack -> openstack https://review.openstack.org/160604 | 10:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/publications: Updating pie chart https://review.openstack.org/160612 | 10:40 |
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openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/requirements: Bup oslo.db version to 1.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/160731 | 10:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add openstack/debtcollector to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/157566 | 10:53 |
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nfedotov | GheRivero: Thank you! | 10:57 |
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boris-42 | AJaeger: hi there | 11:00 |
openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.db version to 1.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/160731 | 11:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Email SMTP Client https://review.openstack.org/149792 | 11:22 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Email Working Directory Utility Method https://review.openstack.org/151947 | 11:22 |
sdague | devvesa: it is *not* possible to clone another project. Anything that's not openstack code should be installed from a release. | 11:27 |
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AJaeger | HI boris-42 | 11:46 |
mordred | nfedotov: what do you mean? | 11:49 |
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boris-42 | AJaeger: so we have issues | 11:52 |
boris-42 | AJaeger: with your request | 11:52 |
boris-42 | AJaeger: there is no admin in that chat | 11:52 |
boris-42 | AJaeger: I mean "openstack-rally" | 11:52 |
boris-42 | AJaeger: so I can't follow your instruction to set openstack-gerritbot | 11:53 |
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AJaeger | boris-42, the rally channel is not registered. Talk with jeblair later today whether he can help registering. | 11:53 |
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boris-42 | AJaeger: so the only way that I know is to kick everybody from chat | 11:54 |
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boris-42 | AJaeger: but it's was even 1.5 years ago hard | 11:54 |
AJaeger | boris-42, we might need a freenode admin - I suggest you talk with jeblair whether he has some hints to do this properly. | 11:55 |
AJaeger | But he's asleep right now (US timezone) | 11:55 |
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boris-42 | AJaeger: ok thanks | 11:57 |
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mordred | boris-42: we have some special powers | 12:17 |
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mordred | boris-42: and by we, I mean jeblair, and by powers, I mean he can change reality with only his mind | 12:17 |
mordred | AJaeger: I _think_ we got a registration with the freenode admins which allows jeblair to force-register things that have an openstack- prefix | 12:18 |
mordred | but I don't have the power nor have I seen it used in anger yet | 12:19 |
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AJaeger | mordred, I've heard about some magic that jeblair can do but didn't know exactly what ;) | 12:20 |
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boris-42 | mordred: uuu nice | 12:23 |
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Kiall | boris-42: you could always ask everyone really really nicely to leave for a few hours ;) | 12:23 |
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boris-42 | Kiall: a lot of people is offline/vacation and so on | 12:24 |
boris-42 | mordred: endless super-infra-power | 12:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jeepyb: Workflow documentation is now in infra-manual https://review.openstack.org/139424 | 12:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Add a check for staticmethod https://review.openstack.org/151952 | 13:02 |
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jedimike | mordred, jeblair, hi! I've been analysing the nodepool performance in gozer, getting some interesting figures that say nodepool's task dispatching performs badly when the task queue gets over a certain point. Is the openstack-infra mailing list the best place to discuss? | 13:22 |
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BobBall | Anyone seen issues with memcached failing to restart because a defunct process (with the right pid) still exists? I'm getting it in our internal CI but am struggling to figure out why... | 13:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix os-ansible-deployment publishers one last time https://review.openstack.org/160600 | 14:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Set IP_VERSION in DevStack to run dual stack https://review.openstack.org/140128 | 14:37 |
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jeblair | jedimike: sure, there or here. how many threads do you have running? | 14:49 |
jedimike | jeblair, can't remember off hand, i'll put all the graphs in a post to the mailing list I think | 14:51 |
jeblair | jedimike: take a look at http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/nodepool-launch-workers.html | 14:52 |
jeblair | jedimike: the only performance problem we've seen is not caused by the task queue depth, but simply starvation due to the number of threads | 14:53 |
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jedimike | jeblair, we also see that the tasks aren't run in a sensible order. For example, we might get loads of Floating IP tasks run, when it would get nodes available more quickly if the tasks were grouped by node | 14:54 |
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jeblair | jedimike: may or may not be what you're seeing; just another data point for you | 14:54 |
jedimike | jeblair, we see there isn't a single task that takes more that 60s to complete, but some nodes are waiting 20 minutes to be deleted because of the order the tasks get run in | 14:55 |
jeblair | jedimike: well, tasks are fifo | 14:55 |
openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add experimental ceilometer elasticsearch db jobs https://review.openstack.org/160824 | 14:55 |
jeblair | jedimike: you might see an individual node become ready faster, but overall, i don't think reordering tasks will get you anything if you're running at capacity | 14:55 |
jeblair | (everything needs to be done eventually) | 14:55 |
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jedimike | jeblair, but we're runing out of capacity because we're waiting 20 minutes for a node to be deleted :) | 14:56 |
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jeblair | jedimike: yes, but if i'm hearing you correctly, during those 20 minutes, you're waiting for something else to happen... it's a zero-sum game. you can't reorder things to make it faster, the only way to make it faster is to, well, make it faster: | 14:57 |
jeblair | jedimike: like ensuring that your rate limits are set appropriately | 14:58 |
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jeblair | jedimike: making the cloud you're using faster, or doing fewer tasks | 14:58 |
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jeblair | jedimike: it's important to realize that all of the tasks are non-blocking | 14:59 |
jedimike | jeblair, so you can delete a node from the cloud without first releasing it's floating ip? | 15:00 |
jeblair | jedimike: they are individual nova api calls.... you said none takes more than 60s... that seems excessive. an individual task should take very little time | 15:00 |
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jeblair | jedimike: nodepool deletes the floating ip first, then the server | 15:01 |
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jeblair | jedimike: (actually, floating ip, keypair, then server) | 15:01 |
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jedimike | jeblair, that's my point. The second task is blocked by the first. | 15:01 |
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jeblair | jedimike: it's not, actually. http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/nodepool/tree/nodepool/provider_manager.py#n578 | 15:02 |
jedimike | jeblair, so we have nodes sat around in delete state waiting for their second or third delete task for a long time, while nodepool is sending the first delete task to a load of other nodes, when it could be sending the last delete task to the node that's ready for it | 15:02 |
jeblair | jedimike: if you examine that code, you'll see that it does not wait for the floating ip to be deleted. it issues the call and continues without blocking. | 15:03 |
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jeblair | jedimike: it does wait for the call to be _issued_, but it does not block on a state change within the cloud. | 15:03 |
jedimike | jeblair, ah, i see, thanks. Then I need to just post this data to the mailing list and get conclusions from people who are more familiar with the internals :) | 15:03 |
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jeblair | jedimike: what's the 'rate:' set for your provider(s)? | 15:05 |
zxiiro | clarkb: would you mind reviewing my patch? it needs one more +2 and it's something we need soon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155865/ | 15:05 |
AJaeger | jeblair, good morning. Is there a way to add openstackinfra access to the #openstack-rally channel? The channel is not registered and setup with gerritbot but not with accessbot. That'S the earlier discussion with boris-42. | 15:06 |
openstackgerrit | Tomas F proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add combine-queued-commit support https://review.openstack.org/160829 | 15:06 |
jeblair | AJaeger, boris-42: i just finished setting it up. should be good to go now. | 15:07 |
AJaeger | jeblair, wow! Thanks! | 15:07 |
openstackgerrit | afazekas proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add an extra tempest worker by default https://review.openstack.org/160830 | 15:07 |
AJaeger | /msg chanserv access #openstack-rallyl list | 15:07 |
AJaeger | /msg chanserv access #openstack-rally list | 15:08 |
AJaeger | jeblair, let me send a patch to add accessbot then... | 15:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add #openstack-rally to accessbot https://review.openstack.org/160831 | 15:10 |
AJaeger | jeblair, looks fine - I really have to learn to type /msg without a leading space ;( | 15:10 |
jedimike | jeblair, we don't have a rate entry in nodepool.yaml... do you know what the default is? (btw, thanks for answering my uninformed ramblings! :) ) | 15:11 |
* sigmavirus24 hopes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160600/ is the last time os-ansible-deployment has to bug y'all | 15:11 | |
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jroll | AJaeger: in my client, you use e.g. //msg | 15:12 |
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jroll | might be the same for yours :) | 15:13 |
AJaeger | jeblair, clarkb with my three patches from today for accessbot/gerritbot, the only channels in gerritbot that are not in accessbot are: milk-dev, openstack-mistral, puppet-openstack, and rubick | 15:13 |
AJaeger | jroll, it'S really the extra space at beginning of line - and me beeing so dumb that I copy and paste the space in ;( | 15:13 |
jroll | AJaeger: oh, I see, lol | 15:14 |
AJaeger | I changed my "cheat sheet" now so that there's nomore a space | 15:14 |
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AJaeger | both rubick and milk are dead, so let's remove them as well... | 15:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove rubick and milk-dev from gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/160838 | 15:23 |
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AJaeger | jeblair, clarkb, with my patch above, this leaves two active projects with channels that are not setup in accessbot: openstack-mistral and puppet-openstack. | 15:28 |
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AJaeger | jeblair, do you want to add openstackinfra to them as well - or shall we wait whether the teams do it themselves or ask? | 15:28 |
jeblair | AJaeger: let's wait for someone to engage us | 15:29 |
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AJaeger | ok, jeblair. I asked them to setup access but so far no reaction - but indeed nothing urgent here.. | 15:30 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add backup before running db migrations https://review.openstack.org/160514 | 15:30 |
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openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add experimental ceilometer elasticsearch db jobs https://review.openstack.org/160824 | 15:31 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Add an index on accesstokens table for access_token column https://review.openstack.org/156543 | 15:31 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb: Enforce manage_projects to be run with specified user https://review.openstack.org/152085 | 15:39 |
openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix swiftclient func tests to run using both auth versions https://review.openstack.org/160844 | 15:40 |
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BharatK | clarkb: ping | 15:43 |
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BharatK | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160664/ | 15:43 |
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BharatK | clarkb: please review this patch to reenable glusterfs job for cinder | 15:44 |
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BharatK | AJaeger: please review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160664/ | 15:46 |
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BharatK | AJaeger: while will reenables the glusterfs job for Cinder | 15:46 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Enforce nodepool user when running cmd commands https://review.openstack.org/160336 | 15:54 |
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jeblair | sdague: you were working on support for dashboard editing in jeepyb, right? | 16:07 |
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sdague | sometime over the summer, I abandoned that patch as it was stalled and I lost context on it. It should be in gerrit somewhere | 16:08 |
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jeblair | sdague: bummer, i was looking forward to it. | 16:09 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add backup before running db migrations https://review.openstack.org/160514 | 16:09 |
sdague | here is the review for reference - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94260/ | 16:11 |
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pabelanger | Greetings, do the infra-spec get served up HTML some place? | 16:14 |
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jeblair | pabelanger: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/ | 16:14 |
pabelanger | jeblair, danke | 16:14 |
anteaya | HeOS: so here is an example of an acl file using wildcards to define groupings upon which to set permissions: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack/cinder.config | 16:14 |
anteaya | HeOS: the access "refs/heads/<branch-name>/*" part is the definiiton of what files will get the permissions that follow | 16:15 |
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pabelanger | Pretty excited about the common openstack ci solution spec | 16:20 |
anteaya | pabelanger: cool, do you want to help with it? | 16:20 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Enforce nodepool user when running cmd commands https://review.openstack.org/160336 | 16:21 |
anteaya | pabelanger: have you met asselin yet? | 16:21 |
pabelanger | anteaya, Ya, I'll likely commit some resources to it. Seems like a good cause | 16:21 |
anteaya | pabelanger: awesome we'd love to have your help | 16:21 |
anteaya | pabelanger: getting to know asselin is probably a good first stop as he is the driver for that spec | 16:22 |
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anteaya | he is in pacific time so should be around shortly | 16:22 |
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pabelanger | Sure, sounds good. I'm working on my 3rd time reproducing the environemt for people :) So, anything to cut down on duplicate code is a good thing. | 16:23 |
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anteaya | pabelanger: ha ha ha, yes I hear that | 16:24 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Add configurable Timeout settings on git vhost https://review.openstack.org/160871 | 16:31 |
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boris-42 | jeblair: thanks! | 16:34 |
boris-42 | AJaeger: thank you too! | 16:35 |
boris-42 | jeblair: AJaeger finally we have normal IRC channel and get add standard logging for it | 16:35 |
boris-42 | be able to add* | 16:35 |
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asselin | pabelanger, hi | 16:38 |
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pabelanger | asselin, Greetings. Just mentioning I'm interested in your venture to make -infra config more generic for the 3rd party. | 16:40 |
pabelanger | Plan to follow along and possible commit if possible | 16:40 |
asselin | pabelanger, great! yeah, spec just got approved. | 16:40 |
krtaylor | \o/ | 16:40 |
pabelanger | indeed, seen that | 16:41 |
pabelanger | Trying to stand up a new environment this month, interested to see what is in the pipeline. | 16:41 |
asselin | pabelanger, out of curiosity, what approach did you use for the environments you've set up already? | 16:41 |
pabelanger | asettle, mostly extract the existing -infra bits into my own puppet repo. | 16:42 |
SpamapS | o/ | 16:42 |
pabelanger | I've packaged some tools like JJB, zuul, and nodepool into debian packages to consume, vs pip | 16:42 |
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pabelanger | but I'm not running the latest versions obviously | 16:43 |
pabelanger | I tend to sync with upstream every so often | 16:43 |
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pabelanger | mostly when I want to pull in something cool / new feature | 16:43 |
pabelanger | then, deal with the upgrade of things at that point | 16:43 |
asselin | pabelanger, cool. yes, I'll admit there are advantages to running more stable versions | 16:43 |
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pabelanger | I'm hoping the openstackci project will do some sort of 6 month release schedule. But, not sure how that will all work | 16:44 |
pabelanger | Ya, my environments are super small compared to -infra | 16:44 |
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pabelanger | For me, the bigger issue was to consume nodepool resources since most of the cost for cloud time was out of pocket | 16:45 |
pabelanger | but none the less, still see a ton of value in it | 16:45 |
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asselin | pabelanger, well, i think the current/initial plan is to stick with 'master'. | 16:46 |
pabelanger | but, once the environment was setup, I didn't do much maintenance on it, unless I needed new features. | 16:46 |
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pabelanger | Yup, I can see that | 16:46 |
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asselin | pabelanger, another idea a reviewer added was to create an ci-appliance. | 16:47 |
SpamapS | pabelanger: and therein lies the rift between fast and stable. If your needs are not changing rapidly, there is simply no point in running from trunk. :) | 16:47 |
openstackgerrit | enikanorov proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.db version to 1.5.0 https://review.openstack.org/160731 | 16:48 |
SpamapS | trunk/master/tip/zomgcrazycrack | 16:48 |
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pabelanger | asselin, Ya, I've been meaning to try softwarefactory from enovance, that looks to be the idea of that tool | 16:49 |
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pabelanger | SpamapS, Right. Will be curious to see if there is some sort of release cycle for the project | 16:49 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Add configurable setting for MaxClients https://review.openstack.org/160885 | 16:49 |
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krtaylor | pabelanger, we did a parallel environment with a known working snapshot of upstream for reporting against patches and a development environment with the latest from infra | 16:51 |
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pabelanger | krtaylor, How did you pick your snapshot? Just random checkouts? I tried to pick tags for the software, and if a tag had not been cut is some time, I've requested something in the past. EG: zuul | 16:54 |
sigmavirus24 | For the people who were discussing gitlab versus gitorious last night: https://about.gitlab.com/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-gitorious/ | 16:54 |
openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/requirements: Add python-openstackclient https://review.openstack.org/160887 | 16:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add backup before running db migrations https://review.openstack.org/160514 | 17:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Oslo.versionedobjects requirement https://review.openstack.org/159380 | 17:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable dsvm testing on oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/160893 | 17:03 |
openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add ironic node deployment support https://review.openstack.org/160894 | 17:03 |
krtaylor | pabelanger, we test a latest-and-greatest pull in our dev environment, if it works good, that becomes our snapshot, nothing fancy | 17:03 |
pabelanger | /me nods | 17:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add ironic node deployment support https://review.openstack.org/160894 | 17:05 |
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krtaylor | pabelanger, you can read about our environment in the third-party-ci-wg meetings at: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-04-15.00.log.html | 17:06 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Smith proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable dsvm testing on oslo.versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/160893 | 17:06 |
pabelanger | krtaylor, interesting, will check it over | 17:08 |
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Ng | mordred: aboot? | 17:12 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Add configurable setting for MaxClients https://review.openstack.org/160885 | 17:12 |
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Ng | mordred: your last upload to 154132 seems to remove the bin/ and modify the install scripts to copy the tools from something in /tmp, but I'm not seeing how those things get into /tmp/ in the first place | 17:14 |
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d34dh0r53 | Sorry to bother, but I was wondering I we could get a quick review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160600/3 by someone with +2? | 17:21 |
mordred | Ng: there should be a source-repositories ... | 17:22 |
mordred | Ng: oh - I didn't check it in ... sone sec | 17:22 |
Ng | :) | 17:22 |
openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add config-drive element https://review.openstack.org/154132 | 17:23 |
mordred | Ng: ^^ | 17:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add backup before running db migrations https://review.openstack.org/160514 | 17:24 |
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Ng | mordred: ta | 17:25 |
anteaya | d34dh0r53: it's all yours, hopefully it works for you | 17:26 |
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mordred | Ng: also - for rax ... after you have the image, tools/upload-rax.sh does the vhd conversion, upload and sets the right metadata | 17:27 |
anteaya | please don't do that | 17:27 |
mordred | Ng: oh, actually, not the metadata | 17:27 |
anteaya | just let me know if it works | 17:27 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: thanks | 17:27 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: thanks for your digging, I learned a lot | 17:27 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: given the amount of hair pulling that went into that change | 17:27 |
mordred | Ng: after it's uploaded (you need to do glance task-show on the task id to poll for it) | 17:27 |
sigmavirus24 | I think it'll work now | 17:27 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: yeah no kidding | 17:27 |
mordred | Ng: tools/update-rax-metadata.sh does the metadata | 17:28 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: yeah we should also document DirSets better for people sending changes to project-config | 17:28 |
anteaya | well you should find out soon | 17:28 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: I'm all for that, are you willing to draft a patch? | 17:28 |
mordred | Ng: obviously, you can do those steps in another way - those scripts are mainly just there to show the steps needed | 17:28 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: specifically explaining that DirSets are what source translated to and DirSets only work from the current directory and contents inside it | 17:28 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: where's the right place for that documentation? | 17:28 |
Ng | mordred: I love scripts that do typing for me :) | 17:28 |
mordred | Ng: I've got an ansible playbook too - but it currently depends on non-released stuff | 17:28 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: we don't have a read me for project-config though we have kicked the idea around | 17:28 |
mordred | Ng: I made this last night: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/config-drive-infra-dib | 17:29 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: I think as long as we can point people /somewhere/ it's better than having to relearn this every time ;) | 17:29 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: I'm for that | 17:29 |
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anteaya | I'm wondering if we should just do a text readme or do a published structure like system-config | 17:30 |
anteaya | jeblair: any thoughts? ^^ | 17:30 |
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jeblair | sigmavirus24, anteaya: http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/publishers.html#publishers.scp | 17:30 |
jeblair | sigmavirus24, anteaya: you could improve that, perhaps. | 17:31 |
anteaya | okay | 17:31 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: does that look like a reasonable spot? | 17:31 |
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sigmavirus24 | anteaya: it does | 17:32 |
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sigmavirus24 | that's openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder right? | 17:32 |
jeblair | yep | 17:32 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: thanks | 17:33 |
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jeblair | sigmavirus24, anteaya: and we can make sure project-config points people there | 17:34 |
sigmavirus24 | jeblair: in a README or comment or ? | 17:34 |
anteaya | what are you envisioning as a pointer? | 17:34 |
jeblair | so this spot already points people there: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#running-jobs-with-zuul | 17:34 |
SpamapS | gertty users.. I'm curious. Do you all find yourself switching back and forth between gertty and review.o.o, or have you been able to fully migrate? | 17:35 |
jeblair | sigmavirus24, anteaya: ah, project-config readme also points there | 17:35 |
SpamapS | I find the lack of diff-of-diff to be a show-stopper for me, and also the fact that patches on long-lines don't wrap to be rather frustrating to deal with. | 17:35 |
jeblair | SpamapS: diff-of-diff? | 17:35 |
SpamapS | jeblair: yes, I want to see only what changed since the last patchset I reviewed. | 17:36 |
jeblair | SpamapS: that's the same in gerrit and gertty... | 17:36 |
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anteaya | ah it does have a readme | 17:36 |
jeblair | SpamapS: hit 'p' on the diff page and you can change the base commit for the diff | 17:36 |
SpamapS | jeblair: no there's a reasonably o-k mode in gerrit. | 17:36 |
anteaya | which is pointers to other docs | 17:36 |
SpamapS | jeblair: yeah, gerrit introduced a new thing recently which is that per-file I can do that. | 17:37 |
SpamapS | jeblair: which ends up producing a more useful result, because it only shows me differences in the files that actually changed in this patch set. | 17:37 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Since grenade relies on devstack, add it to devstack's check queue https://review.openstack.org/160914 | 17:37 |
jeblair | SpamapS: walk me through this | 17:37 |
SpamapS | jeblair: in review.o.o, click commit message on the latest change | 17:37 |
SpamapS | jeblair: then all of the patchsets are enumerated on the top left, and choose the last one you reviewed. | 17:38 |
jeblair | SpamapS: can you supply an example change so we have the same context? | 17:38 |
SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154132/ | 17:38 |
jeblair | SpamapS: old change screen or new? | 17:38 |
SpamapS | I reviewed patch set 6 last | 17:38 |
SpamapS | jeblair: on the left side, I click 6, and viola, changes that matter. :) | 17:39 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix os-ansible-deployment publishers one last time https://review.openstack.org/160600 | 17:39 |
jeblair | SpamapS: are you using the old change screen, or the new change screen? | 17:39 |
SpamapS | And yes I meant to say viola, and not voila, because I just love mid-range strings. | 17:39 |
SpamapS | jeblair: I don't know what that means? :-P | 17:39 |
jeblair | SpamapS: open a file diff and send me the direct link | 17:40 |
SpamapS | old screen | 17:40 |
SpamapS | in preferences | 17:40 |
SpamapS | right? | 17:40 |
jeblair | SpamapS: yeah | 17:40 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: neutron-*aas pylint jobs moving into pep8 job https://review.openstack.org/160915 | 17:40 |
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jeblair | SpamapS: okay, i'm at "in review.o.o, click commit message on the latest change". what does that mean? | 17:41 |
SpamapS | Until this moment, I have never seen the "new screen" ;) | 17:41 |
jeblair | SpamapS: okay don't look at it now, it's just going to confuse me | 17:41 |
SpamapS | ah but it is similar. | 17:41 |
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jeblair | SpamapS: do you mean i should click the link that goes here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154132/10//COMMIT_MSG ? | 17:42 |
SpamapS | jeblair: thanks for walking through this with me. :) | 17:42 |
SpamapS | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154132/10//COMMIT_MSG yes | 17:42 |
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jeblair | SpamapS: then click "Patch Sets" at the top | 17:42 |
SpamapS | then I click https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154132/6..10//COMMIT_MSG | 17:43 |
SpamapS | which has a link text of "6" | 17:43 |
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jeblair | SpamapS: oh ok | 17:43 |
SpamapS | Patch Set Base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 <-- looks like that | 17:43 |
jeblair | SpamapS: got it | 17:43 |
jeblair | SpamapS: that's actually functionally equivalent to what i said | 17:43 |
SpamapS | This makes all of the files next links go to the same 6..10 but doesn't include files that weren't part of 10's patch set | 17:44 |
jeblair | SpamapS: so "Patch Sets" -> "Old Version; radio button 6" is the same as "Patcch Set Base 6" | 17:44 |
SpamapS | jeblair: ah ok so I won't get a million rebase-results if I change things? | 17:44 |
SpamapS | gah terrible sentence | 17:44 |
SpamapS | jeblair: ah ok so I won't get a million rebase-results if I use "p" in diff mode? | 17:44 |
jeblair | SpamapS: i'm still just talking about gerrit -- i have come to the conclusion there are two UI paths to get the same result | 17:45 |
SpamapS | I'm searching for a patch that demonstrates what I don't want. | 17:45 |
SpamapS | jeblair: ah ok. | 17:45 |
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jeblair | SpamapS: so, still within gerrit, there is no way to "interdiff". a content change combined with a rebase is a mess. | 17:45 |
jeblair | SpamapS: doing what we're doing will show you differences between patchsets, but if a rebase is involved, the rebase will appear as differences as well | 17:46 |
SpamapS | jeblair: absolutely. In any single file, I will get rebased changes. | 17:46 |
SpamapS | jeblair: But what I like about the method I have, is that I will not get any files that did not change as a result of the new patch. | 17:46 |
SpamapS | So it's purely an optimization of the same bad-not-interdiff method. :) | 17:47 |
jeblair | SpamapS: ah i see, so you are suggesting that while gertty has the same ability to diff between patchsets, it lacks a filter on the resulting file set that limits it to the files within the "new" side of the diff? | 17:47 |
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pc_m | Hi! Can I get a second core review of this project-config commit? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158389/ | 17:48 |
SpamapS | jeblair: indeed, and discussing this outside my own head makes me realize this may just be a happy accident in the gerrit UI. | 17:49 |
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anteaya | pc_m: I tried to review that at the end of my day last night, I coudn't make it through the commit message | 17:49 |
pc_m | anteaya: :) | 17:49 |
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anteaya | pc_m: what are you doing in this patch, adding a test? | 17:50 |
jeblair | SpamapS: so, we could diff new_base -> new_commit, get a list of files, then diff other_base -> new_commit and filter the resulting diff to the files from step 1 | 17:50 |
jeblair | SpamapS: i confess, i'm not sure if i feel that's "correct" | 17:50 |
pc_m | anteaya: Adding a new job. For the StrongSwan driver (which will become the new reference implementation), it requires a different devstack setup for functional tests. | 17:50 |
jeblair | SpamapS: (of course, what's best is if rebase patchsets are kept separate from content-changing patchsets) | 17:51 |
anteaya | pc_m: I can understand the need in neutron to write a thesis in the commit message, but mostly I just need to know if you are adding a test or similar | 17:51 |
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SpamapS | jeblair: Yeah, I don't think anything I have now comes close to "best" | 17:51 |
anteaya | adding a new job, okay thanks | 17:51 |
BobBall | What installs /etc/apache2/sites-enabled for zuul and jenkins? I'm trying to run the two on the same host, but I've got two issues: jenkins adds a redirect from http to https (which is where jenkins is served from) and zuul was only configured on the IP address not the resolved hostname | 17:51 |
jeblair | SpamapS: i've also thought that perhaps an interdiff could be automated in gertty; but i haven't quite figured out how that would work yet | 17:51 |
SpamapS | jeblair: but filtering out files that did not change in either patch set is a time saver for me. | 17:51 |
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SpamapS | jeblair: does anybody have an interdiff solution btw? I've never gotten this far down the rebase road before. | 17:52 |
jeblair | SpamapS: not that i'm aware of | 17:52 |
anteaya | pc_m: you are adding a new experimental job to your own repo | 17:52 |
pc_m | anteaya: Understood, but it is more than adding a test, and trying to indicate A) why it is needed, and B) what the impact is of this change (new dirs used), so that developers know what they need to do to add tests. | 17:52 |
anteaya | pc_m: even easier | 17:52 |
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pc_m | anteaya: yes and yes. | 17:52 |
anteaya | pc_m: for me, I need to hear I"m adding a new experimental job to my own repo | 17:53 |
anteaya | and I can understand the need for the rest in comments | 17:53 |
jeblair | SpamapS: i _think_ it would be okay to add that filtering to gertty | 17:53 |
pc_m | anteaya: OK, sort of thought that's what the subject said. I can reword, if needed. | 17:54 |
SpamapS | jeblair: so perhaps this is just the drawback we have to deal with because we rebase. | 17:54 |
jeblair | SpamapS: especially if we did the union of files changed in both old and new patchsets | 17:54 |
anteaya | pc_m: no need, now that I have context this helps me understand what I am looking at | 17:54 |
SpamapS | jeblair: right, I think that union is at least going to be likely to catch relevant differences. | 17:54 |
jeblair | SpamapS: yeah, avoiding rebasing (or limiting it to a patchset that makes no substantial changes) is the best | 17:54 |
jeblair | SpamapS: want to file a story to add the file limiting? | 17:55 |
pc_m | anteaya: Super. I'll try to word better for subsequent commits (when make it non-experimental, and then when voting). | 17:55 |
SpamapS | There may be rebased stuff that changes the general assumptions the code was originally reviewed under, but one would hope the reviewer would take those into account by nature of being familiar with the project. | 17:55 |
jeblair | ya | 17:55 |
openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add detailed call out about the SCP plugin https://review.openstack.org/160919 | 17:55 |
SpamapS | jeblair: I will do that now, yes. Thanks again for walking through it with me. | 17:55 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: jeblair ^ (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160919/) | 17:56 |
SpamapS | jeblair: this is slightly related to https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000138 btw | 17:56 |
SpamapS | but not exactly the same thing | 17:56 |
anteaya | pc_m: fwiw telling me "This patch adds a new experimental job to our repo" is as low risk as it gets | 17:56 |
pc_m | anteaya: gotcha | 17:56 |
anteaya | in that the experimental pipeline is where mistakes are supposed to happen | 17:57 |
anteaya | and adding a job to your own repo only needs your approval | 17:57 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed stackforge/gertty: Wrap long lines in side-by-side diffs https://review.openstack.org/160921 | 17:58 |
jeblair | SpamapS: there's the fix to your other thing ^ :) | 17:58 |
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SpamapS | jeblair: \o/ | 17:58 |
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pc_m | anteaya: Really? | 17:58 |
jeblair | SpamapS: i expect a comprehensive and thorough review of that change! ;) | 17:58 |
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pc_m | anteaya: That's good to know. Then does it require infra, when moved to the check queue non-voting? | 17:59 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: nicely done, I just want to see how the docs build | 17:59 |
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sigmavirus24 | anteaya: understood | 17:59 |
anteaya | pc_m: oh yes, just shareing my perpective in terms how how much work to make something happen, experimental pipeline is low risk, non-voting check is higher and voting jobs (check and gate) are highest | 18:00 |
anteaya | pc_m: adding jobs to your own repo is low risk (you are only shooting yourself in the foot, usually) adding jobs to other repos needs more communication | 18:00 |
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pc_m | anteaya: great. I we need to be able to start testing out the StrongSwan functional tests being developed. | 18:01 |
anteaya | pc_m: this is the thought pattern I hold when I review | 18:01 |
SpamapS | jeblair: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000186 | 18:01 |
anteaya | pc_m: cool | 18:01 |
pc_m | anteaya: I like the way you think :) | 18:01 |
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anteaya | pc_m: thanks, commit mesasges that tell me how to contextualize a new patch really help me | 18:01 |
jeblair | sigmavirus24: i left a comment on that with a suggestion of a different location to put that | 18:02 |
pc_m | anteaya: Actually, I can't approve, as I don't have +2 +A in infra area... | 18:02 |
pc_m | anteaya: project-config repo... | 18:02 |
anteaya | as in tell me what pipeline (experimental, non-voting or voting) and tell me how the repos relate to you (mine, someone else's, multiple someone else's) | 18:02 |
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sigmavirus24 | jeblair: I'll look, thanks | 18:03 |
mrmartin | if we are in the middle of this +2 lottery, can I get a +2 here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159426/ ? | 18:03 |
mrmartin | :) | 18:03 |
pc_m | anteaya: Oh, I get you... you mean, you only need my approval to give approval for experimental job... | 18:04 |
pc_m | not that I only need to approve. | 18:04 |
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mrmartin | thnx. | 18:04 |
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clarkb | wow I get dinner in the crock pot and this channel goes crazy | 18:05 |
anteaya | pc_m: well if someone who wastn' you wanted to add a job to a vpnaas pipeline, I would want you to know about it | 18:06 |
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anteaya | pc_m: and +1 the patch in review | 18:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add detailed call out about the SCP plugin https://review.openstack.org/160919 | 18:06 |
anteaya | clarkb: what are you cooking? | 18:06 |
sigmavirus24 | jeblair: updated ;) | 18:06 |
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clarkb | anteaya: chili | 18:07 |
pc_m | anteaya: gotcha | 18:08 |
anteaya | pc_m: cool, thanks for understanding | 18:09 |
anteaya | clarkb: sounds good | 18:09 |
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pc_m | anteaya: Thanks for approving! | 18:11 |
anteaya | sure | 18:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Setup non-voting VPNaaS func test for StrongSwan https://review.openstack.org/158389 | 18:14 |
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clarkb | I am checking up on jenkins masters now to see if 04 is doing better than its comrades | 18:15 |
anteaya | clarkb: I'm keen to hear your findings | 18:15 |
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pleia2 | oh nice, debian and ubuntu ship with different versions of netcat (debian has netcat-traditional and ubuntu has netcat-openbsd), and they have different options | 18:16 |
clarkb | 04 is still very light on the remoting threads so thats good. 05 has not decreased its number of threads despite being in shutdown mode so I think this is a realy leak that doesn't slowly resolve itself | 18:16 |
pleia2 | I've been testing on debian \o/ | 18:16 |
pleia2 | "why this not work on Ubuntu..." | 18:16 |
clarkb | pleia2: I think nc -k -l 29418 is what you want on ubuntu | 18:16 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: we need the echo response as well, with -traditional there is a -c for a command (like an echo) | 18:17 |
clarkb | pleia2: do we? I figured just establishing a tcp connection was sufficient | 18:17 |
pleia2 | clarkb: ah, well if that's all :) | 18:17 |
clarkb | asselin: ^ do you need anything more than that? | 18:18 |
asselin | clarkb, pleia2 that should be enough | 18:18 |
pleia2 | clarkb: so, should we do anything more official than just tossing this in a screen session? | 18:19 |
jeblair | pleia2: i'm okay with screen | 18:20 |
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clarkb | pleia2: I don't think it needs anything more especially if asselin can do testing quicklyish | 18:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Build wheel house during nodepool devstack caching https://review.openstack.org/160548 | 18:20 |
asselin | yes, I can test. | 18:20 |
mtreinish | jogo: ^^^ | 18:20 |
clarkb | ok jenkins report. Only 05 is showing symptoms of the leak. 04 is happy but considering that 01-04,06,07 are all happy I don't want to call it fixed just yet | 18:20 |
asselin | other cinder folks would like this too | 18:21 |
mtreinish | jeblair: ^^^ That should address your comments | 18:21 |
clarkb | anteaya: ^ | 18:21 |
anteaya | cool, what do you want to do based on that info? | 18:21 |
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asselin | pleia2, clarkb so it would be good to keep it enabled until around when the ip switch is done | 18:22 |
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clarkb | anteaya: we should probably let 04 sit longer before we bother upgrading the others especially if 05 is the only one currently in a bad state | 18:23 |
anteaya | fair enough | 18:23 |
clarkb | anteaya: I am happy to run a jenkins down for a bit in order to gather infos | 18:23 |
clarkb | jeblair: ^ unless you disagree | 18:23 |
anteaya | run a jenkins down, what does that entail? | 18:23 |
pleia2 | I don't seem to have an account on new gerrit yet (not running puppet?) | 18:23 |
jeblair | clarkb: agree | 18:24 |
clarkb | anteaya: basically that master just sits in shutdown mode so no slaves and jobs are assigned to it | 18:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-drupal: Get cron key variable from conf parameter https://review.openstack.org/159426 | 18:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: Remove tests https://review.openstack.org/159086 | 18:24 |
zaro | clarkb: regarding 160549, the wget location is correct. | 18:24 |
clarkb | zaro: hrm I will have to look at it again. The path seemed to end with versions not project names | 18:24 |
clarkb | pleia2: I can hop on and check | 18:24 |
anteaya | clarkb: ah so if it is a leak the leak will increase in that state? | 18:24 |
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clarkb | anteaya: it seems related to slave connections so probably not | 18:25 |
zaro | zxiiro: will take a look at your jjb change. | 18:25 |
clarkb | anteaya: but thats another thing to keep an eye on, that node has 9175 threads last I saw | 18:25 |
anteaya | clarkb: okay cool | 18:25 |
anteaya | will be interesting to see what happens after it is down for a while | 18:26 |
jeblair | mtreinish: weirdly, i think it's more complicated than that. i don't know why it was made that way | 18:26 |
zaro | clarkb: yeah, i initially thought it was incorrect as well. but the UI doesn't match the real url reference. might be a sim link or something, but it is ../$version/$plugin_name.hpi | 18:26 |
jeblair | mtreinish: left a comment | 18:26 |
cinerama | hi pleia2! | 18:26 |
clarkb | zaro: good catch I think you are right | 18:26 |
clarkb | zaro: thank you for double checking on that | 18:27 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add python26 jobs to debtcollector https://review.openstack.org/160928 | 18:27 |
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pleia2 | cinerama: hey :) | 18:28 |
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mtreinish | jeblair: hmm, would just manually setting the path to be: '/home/jenkins/cache/files' in the element be enough. (that looks like what it does for the images) | 18:28 |
mtreinish | err s/files/wheelhouse | 18:28 |
harlowja_ | qq, i'm seeing '+ die 622 'Cloning not allowed in this configuration'' in http://logs.openstack.org/21/155121/1/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-debtcollector/9d1a3f7/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz but am not sure if thats fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157580/ ; if it is can we get that merged so that error goes away? | 18:28 |
cinerama | pleia2, so i have been looking at the zanata stuff. i made a little base vagrant box with the generic puppet bits on it to use | 18:28 |
pleia2 | cinerama: wonderful | 18:28 |
mtreinish | harlowja_: you need to make sure debtcollector is in the projects list in d-g | 18:29 |
mtreinish | oh, that's what that patch is | 18:29 |
harlowja_ | :) | 18:29 |
jeblair | harlowja_: aprvd | 18:29 |
harlowja_ | thx | 18:29 |
cinerama | pleia2: i found i needed to add "include zanata" to site.pp in zanata - was wondering if i missed something and didn't actually need to do that or what | 18:29 |
zaro | clarkb: would you be willing to push this thru? i am doing a talk soon and want to provide a url to the slides. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158387/ | 18:30 |
pleia2 | cinerama: hm, I think that would include itself, more likely perhaps you need it in the local.pp? | 18:30 |
cinerama | pleia2: oh, ok, because i was going off of what the etherpad lite one looks like | 18:30 |
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pleia2 | ah, interesting | 18:31 |
pleia2 | sometimes puppet confounds me :s | 18:31 |
clarkb | zaro: let me look once I get pleia2 a user on new gerrit | 18:32 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Build wheel house during nodepool devstack caching https://review.openstack.org/160548 | 18:32 |
cinerama | so i didn't get a magical zanata yet but i'm going to poke at it more. learning through pokin. | 18:33 |
mtreinish | jeblair: ^^^ so at least for the image files with dib it just explicitly used the full path, so I mirrored that for the wheelhouse | 18:33 |
clarkb | wow there is a fair number of changes to be made (mostly related to zaro's various gerrit puppet related changes) | 18:34 |
clarkb | they all look familiar though so I am going to run puppet there | 18:35 |
anteaya | AJaeger: you just put +A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159672/ did you read that I wanted jeblair to see it before it merges? | 18:35 |
anteaya | since it adds a job to devstack-gate | 18:35 |
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clarkb | hrm that didn't go so well | 18:36 |
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clarkb | Error: Could not create group elizabeth: Execution of '/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 2015 elizabeth' returned 4: groupadd: GID '2015' already exists | 18:36 |
AJaeger_ | anteaya: I missed that - let me remove it again... | 18:37 |
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zaro | clarkb: which server is that? | 18:37 |
clarkb | zaro: the new review.o.o | 18:37 |
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AJaeger_ | anteaya: fixed - thanks! | 18:37 |
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anteaya | AJaeger_: thanks for the review, I just want devstack-gate jobs to have jeblair's awareness, as he requested | 18:38 |
anteaya | AJaeger_: thanks for fixing | 18:38 |
clarkb | openstackwatch is uid 2015 | 18:38 |
zaro | clarkb: most of it was to get gerrit-zuul-jenkins communications work again. | 18:38 |
pleia2 | heh | 18:38 |
clarkb | also user corvus isn't added properly because gid 2001 is taken | 18:39 |
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zaro | ohh wait, this is only gerrit. not sure why so many changes then. | 18:39 |
clarkb | by gerrit | 18:39 |
clarkb | zaro: just because puppet hasnt been running there | 18:39 |
clarkb | so acl files and gerrit config and the gerrit lib tidying all needed to be done | 18:39 |
zaro | clarkb: ok. that makes sense. | 18:40 |
pleia2 | clarkb: I changed my mind, I don't want an account there | 18:40 |
clarkb | huh how did gerrit2 end up with gid 2001 when its uid is 1001 | 18:40 |
pleia2 | ;D | 18:40 |
clarkb | pleia2: ha | 18:41 |
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clarkb | should I just surgery it? | 18:42 |
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zaro | clarkb: i'm guessing it's from an upgrade. | 18:43 |
zaro | like from 'java -jar gerrit.war init' command | 18:44 |
openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Allow overwriting sphinx builder from command line https://review.openstack.org/117478 | 18:44 |
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clarkb | /etc/login.defs was updated in this puppet run to make a gap between uid and gid 1000-2999 | 18:44 |
clarkb | so anything that ran before it would possibly have been wrong. The confusing bit is how did gerrit2 get uid 1001 with gid 2001 those should've matched up given the old login.defs rules | 18:45 |
clarkb | also shouldn't we have killed openstackwatch by now? | 18:45 |
zaro | oops ignore me, thought you meant gerrit db | 18:45 |
clarkb | oh! I think this is a race in puppet | 18:46 |
marun | clarkb: can we merge this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160194/ | 18:46 |
clarkb | mordred is gid 2000, if that group was created before gerrit2 uid and gid then gerrit2 gid would be 2001, then gerrit2 uid would be made at 1001 then mordred uid at 2000 | 18:47 |
clarkb | does anyone know where fungi stashed the scripts to untangle these messes on the filesystems? I can surgery this now that the login.defs are in place | 18:48 |
openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: If wheelhouse is pre-generated, move into correct location https://review.openstack.org/160933 | 18:48 |
anteaya | clarkb: no idea | 18:48 |
openstackgerrit | Joe Gordon proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: If wheelhouse is pre-generated, copy into correct location https://review.openstack.org/160933 | 18:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Build wheel house during nodepool devstack caching https://review.openstack.org/160548 | 18:58 |
mtreinish | AJaeger_: ^^^ fixed your comments (and the pep8 failure) | 18:58 |
clarkb | ok I have mapped out new values that are valid | 18:59 |
zaro | pelix, zxiiro : commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158989/ | 18:59 |
clarkb | just need to apply them and chown all the the things | 18:59 |
AJaeger_ | mtreinish: great | 18:59 |
clarkb | jeblair: pleia2 ^ fyi | 18:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Spec to refactor puppet code in openstack_project https://review.openstack.org/137471 | 18:59 |
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jeblair | clarkb: thanks | 19:00 |
clarkb | worst case we can probably rebuild the node assuming that preserves the IP addrs | 19:00 |
zaro | pelix: had a question for you in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158350/ | 19:00 |
jeblair | meeting time in #openstack-meeting | 19:00 |
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clarkb | wow so soon will save user updates for after meeting | 19:00 |
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pleia2 | thanks clarkb | 19:02 |
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harlowja_ | clarkb could u also maybe look @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160928/ and get that in; its already stated as having 2.6 (and its tests pass there locally on my 2.6 env) and it'd be nice to make sure that it continues to be supported until we can get rid of 2.6 everywhere | 19:03 |
harlowja_ | *better to be safe than sorry* | 19:03 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Squash overlapping skip-ifs into a single section https://review.openstack.org/160194 | 19:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add backup before running db migrations https://review.openstack.org/160514 | 19:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add Gerrit Topic to the spec template https://review.openstack.org/160946 | 19:20 |
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mrmartin | pleia2: http://www.slideshare.net/MartonKiss1/openstack-vagrant-plugin-overview | 19:25 |
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pleia2 | mrmartin: thanks | 19:25 |
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zxiiro | zaro: thanks for your insight! | 19:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Since grenade+neutron relies on devstack, add it to devstack's check queue https://review.openstack.org/160914 | 19:35 |
zxiiro | zaro: any chance you can help get this dependent patch merged in? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155865/ | 19:36 |
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zaro | zxiiro: is the config file provider plugin a core plugin? | 19:39 |
zaro | if it's not then maybe the doc should tell user that installing that plugin is required? | 19:40 |
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mrmartin | pleia2: the zanata-dev vagrant scripts: https://github.com/mkissam/vagrant-zanata-dev | 19:43 |
mrmartin | you need to upgrade the zanata module there to latest version | 19:43 |
pleia2 | mrmartin: interesting, do you set up a mysql database anywhere? | 19:44 |
zxiiro | zaro: no it's not a core plugin | 19:45 |
mrmartin | pleia2: not yet, am I need? :) | 19:45 |
pleia2 | mrmartin: that may be why zanata isn't working for you! | 19:45 |
mrmartin | pleia2: yes, but I just wanted to reach a point where war file deployes well | 19:45 |
pleia2 | I don't think it will, the standalone.xml requires a mysql database | 19:46 |
pleia2 | mrmartin: I'm using an infra-prepped machine (install_puppet.sh and install_modules.sh, see: http://ci.openstack.org/sysadmin.html#making-a-change-in-puppet) and then a local.pp like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/183210/ | 19:46 |
pleia2 | s/local.pp/site.pp | 19:46 |
zxiiro | zaro: Good idea, anyway I can address that point in my cosolidation patch instead? I really need this particular patch in soon and considering it's a port of a previous patch I can update the docs in both places with the consolidation patch | 19:47 |
mrmartin | pleia2: yes it is better, I simply don't have time for that | 19:47 |
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pleia2 | mrmartin: yeah, so you could just manually set up a mysql database with the creds provided in the puppet manifest | 19:48 |
mrmartin | yeap, it can be added to vagrant's site.pp | 19:48 |
mrmartin | and requires the mysql module | 19:48 |
mrmartin | 6lines max. | 19:48 |
pleia2 | great | 19:49 |
mrmartin | this few lines you pasted makes sense, I'll try to merge it with vagrant | 19:49 |
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zaro | zxiiro: no, i prefer it the update in the right patch. will help us search the git history. update the doc and i'll push it thru. | 19:51 |
zxiiro | zaro: ok, I'll go back and update the same docs over in project_maven as well too since it's missing there as well. | 19:53 |
zxiiro | zaro: I'll try to get this updated today | 19:53 |
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pleia2 | now we all hide so not to be the target of jeblair's "alternate means" | 20:03 |
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tchaypo | actually | 20:04 |
tchaypo | I’m going to try to find someone for my own alternate means... | 20:04 |
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tchaypo | The two hp regions have bastion hosts we jump through to get access to things behind them | 20:04 |
tchaypo | I’d like to get started making sure that infra-root people have access and can start getting the machines into shape | 20:05 |
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pleia2 | oh, in case it wasn't obvious in the meeting, in person meetup with cinerama for zanata stuff tomorrow means I'll be away most of the day tomorrow (silicon valley is faaar away ;)) | 20:06 |
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tchaypo | not for cinerama | 20:10 |
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pleia2 | tchaypo: indeed! | 20:11 |
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tchaypo | what should I do to get infra-root people access to the bastions? | 20:11 |
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tchaypo | Iif there aaresome published keys i could start by putting those on the boxes | 20:14 |
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pleia2 | tchaypo: this has all users on our systems http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/users.pp | 20:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/bindep -> openstack-infra/bindep https://review.openstack.org/160963 | 20:16 |
pleia2 | tchaypo: mordred, corvus, clarkb, fungi, slukjanov and elizabeth are root | 20:16 |
mtreinish | pleia2: did you just break the 4th wall? :) | 20:18 |
AJaeger_ | anteaya: please add bindep to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames | 20:18 |
openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add ironic node deployment support https://review.openstack.org/160894 | 20:18 |
anteaya | AJaeger_: done | 20:19 |
AJaeger_ | thanks, anteaya | 20:19 |
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anteaya | I needed the patch number to do that | 20:19 |
pleia2 | mtreinish: hah :) | 20:19 |
anteaya | np | 20:19 |
anteaya | : | 20:19 |
anteaya | ) | 20:19 |
AJaeger_ | ;) | 20:19 |
clarkb | ok jeblair has an account on new review.o.o. pleia2 is trickier because her account conflicts with the admin gid | 20:19 |
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anteaya | way to cause havoc pleia2 | 20:19 |
pleia2 | 2015 is miiine | 20:20 |
pleia2 | :) | 20:20 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add debtcollector to devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh https://review.openstack.org/157580 | 20:20 |
clarkb | but it doesn't look like admin group is used in any file perms | 20:21 |
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clarkb | admin should be a system group ya? not sure why it is in the user range | 20:22 |
openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add ironic node deployment support https://review.openstack.org/160894 | 20:22 |
pleia2 | I think admin is the backwards compatible group that is still around but we've since switched to sudo group | 20:22 |
clarkb | pleia2: oh ok I will worry less about it then | 20:22 |
jeblair | clarkb: check sudo config | 20:23 |
pleia2 | ah yeah, should do that in case we are still using it | 20:23 |
lifeless | jeblair: anteaya: I'm entirely happy with bindep moving | 20:23 |
anteaya | lifeless: great thanks | 20:23 |
jeblair | lifeless: great, i think anteaya is working on the changes now, so she should have something for you to +1 soon | 20:23 |
lifeless | I said no to anteaya's asking me if I would put forward the move because I have enough things in the air right now | 20:24 |
anteaya | lifeless: can you add a comment as such to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160963/ | 20:24 |
clarkb | yup group sudo is used in sudoers not admin | 20:24 |
lifeless | and fungi was focused on prep for going on holiday | 20:24 |
tchaypo | is there a mailing list for contacting infra-root people? | 20:24 |
anteaya | tchaypo: #openstack-infra irc channel | 20:24 |
hogepodge | For some reason this workflow+1 patch hasn't been merged. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139499/ | 20:25 |
anteaya | if there is a security concern just people individual email addresses | 20:25 |
tchaypo | oh look, I already found it :) | 20:25 |
clarkb | pleia2: ok you should be set. can you try logging in and make sure sudo and all that works for you? | 20:25 |
tchaypo | Currently on the bastions we’ve been using a shared user account | 20:25 |
pleia2 | clarkb: elizabeth@review:~$ | 20:26 |
tchaypo | I could go ahead and set up all the users as per the manifest, but I think it’s simpler (for me at least, not for anyone else) to just add those keys to the shared account and then let infra-root people take over | 20:26 |
pleia2 | clarkb: sudo looks good, thanks | 20:26 |
tchaypo | does that sound like a sensible plan, or just like me being lazy? | 20:26 |
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clarkb | pleia2: awesome I think my work fixing the gid and uids is done | 20:26 |
pleia2 | clarkb: nice work, thanks | 20:26 |
anteaya | clarkb: nice job | 20:26 |
clarkb | we may want to consider a reboot as well but I did check that any processes running with old ids were killed | 20:27 |
pleia2 | I just started up the screen session, so just lmk if we do reboot so I can bring it back ;) | 20:27 |
AJaeger_ | oh, the post queue has jobs that are 5+ hours old - http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ . And we're using all test nodes right now... | 20:27 |
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pleia2 | asselin: netcat is up and running on 104.130.159.134 port 29418 now | 20:28 |
clarkb | pleia2: I think we can avoid a reboot for now, I did try to be careful :) | 20:28 |
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asselin | pleia2, cool. will try now | 20:29 |
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asselin | pleia2, it works! http://paste.openstack.org/show/186799/ | 20:31 |
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anteaya | asselin: well done | 20:31 |
pleia2 | asselin: wonderful, sorry that took so long to get going | 20:32 |
anteaya | is taht for all hp or just your use? | 20:32 |
asselin | anteaya, I didn't do much. :) | 20:32 |
anteaya | what you did, you did well | 20:32 |
asselin | anteaya, just my site. I will ping some others to test other sites | 20:32 |
anteaya | asselin: ping away | 20:32 |
asselin | pleia2, no problem at all. timing is good. I will let cinder folks know in tomorrow's meeting that it's up and ready for them | 20:32 |
anteaya | jeblair: I went with openstack-infra/bindep, lifeless is suggesting openstack-dev/bindep: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160963/ | 20:33 |
anteaya | jeblair: let me know what you want | 20:33 |
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anteaya | pleia2: how long will the telnet be up for? | 20:33 |
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anteaya | I got that it won't be up from now until march 21st | 20:34 |
pleia2 | anteaya: as long as we want it | 20:34 |
pleia2 | "until someone tells me to turn it off" | 20:34 |
anteaya | so it is okay to leave it up | 20:34 |
jeblair | anteaya, lifeless: i would prefer -infra; we're actually trying to retire -dev (but moving devstack is daunting) | 20:34 |
clarkb | ok time for lunch back in a bit | 20:34 |
anteaya | clarkb: happy food | 20:35 |
anteaya | chili if I recall | 20:35 |
clarkb | anteaya: thats dinner | 20:35 |
anteaya | ah you organized person you | 20:35 |
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asselin | anteaya, pleia2 it should be fine to leave up until the the gerrit server needs the port | 20:35 |
anteaya | cool thanks | 20:35 |
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lifeless | jeblair: ok sure; was just a note :) | 20:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/bindep -> openstack-infra/bindep https://review.openstack.org/160963 | 20:41 |
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nibalizer | pleia2: if you end up refreshing the nc, might be a good idea to replace it with an echoing version | 20:42 |
pleia2 | nibalizer: we talked about that this morning and decided there was no need | 20:43 |
nibalizer | this is what it looks like from inside hp, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10519241/ kindof hard to interpret | 20:43 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: clarkb that worked along with a symlink of the log directory: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160560/ | 20:43 |
clarkb | nibalizer that means you connected | 20:43 |
pleia2 | it connected, I don't think there is much to know beyond that | 20:44 |
clarkb | right | 20:44 |
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anteaya | sigmavirus24: help me understand why you are having to jump through such hoops for your logging | 20:44 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: I kind of came into the middle of this, but I don't recall recently have another stackforge repo having to fight so hard to get their logs | 20:45 |
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sigmavirus24 | anteaya: so all of the services are run in containers and we bindmount back to the host so the logs can be collected from the host. Why the project originally chose /openstack/log I don't know, but it isn't something we can change at this moment | 20:46 |
pleia2 | woooo my Nexus 6 has arrived \o/ | 20:46 |
anteaya | why are the logs from the host important to you? | 20:46 |
anteaya | pleia2: wooooo | 20:46 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: assuming you read the docs that I wrote for the scp job, we then tried adding a publisher for /openstack/log/** but that didn't work. So we're adding a symlink for the directory so we can publish them | 20:46 |
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anteaya | yes I understand what you tried and failed to accomplish | 20:47 |
sigmavirus24 | anteaya: because we run tempest as part of the check-commit job and we were having issues where tempest couldn't import dependencies for things but the logs were the only source of truth | 20:47 |
anteaya | what I don't understand is why you tried it | 20:47 |
sigmavirus24 | We were able to reproduce it but only after we already worked a review through that tee'd the output of testr list-test | 20:47 |
sigmavirus24 | So to not have to go through those hoops again (and to get other info about the set-up) we decided it wouldn't hurt to start publishing the logs from the job | 20:48 |
jroll | flaper87: did you ever figure out gcc: error: /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1: No such file or directory | 20:48 |
jroll | flaper87: err, https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/1424582 | 20:49 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1424582 in OpenStack-Gate "Missing /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1" [Undecided,New] | 20:49 |
flaper87 | jroll: nope :( | 20:50 |
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jroll | flaper87: boo :( | 20:50 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: my only comfort is that the only people you are boxing into a corner with this is your own project | 20:50 |
sigmavirus24 | Well I appreciate your help with all of this, and your patience | 20:51 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: but I am learning interesting things from you | 20:51 |
anteaya | sigmavirus24: thanks for sharing | 20:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Jan Hruban proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support additional features in Build Flow project https://review.openstack.org/158084 | 20:53 |
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anteaya | sdague: so did you get a chance to read the spec yet? | 21:00 |
anteaya | devananda: ah so supporting out of tree drivers is something I knew about since we discussed taht in perth | 21:00 |
devananda | anteaya: :) | 21:01 |
anteaya | devananda: what I don't know is what takes place for testing | 21:01 |
devananda | ah | 21:01 |
anteaya | since neutron is decomposing them, maintaining a test framework is a large consideration for them | 21:01 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Add an index on accesstokens table for access_token column https://review.openstack.org/156543 | 21:01 |
anteaya | and since cinder and nova are the two other projects I was thinking of | 21:01 |
devananda | we have only had one driver so far successfully run third=party CI | 21:01 |
openstackgerrit | Thanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Config File Provider to Maven Project module https://review.openstack.org/155865 | 21:01 |
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devananda | and it hasn't been the most stable ... | 21:02 |
anteaya | they also have in tree drivers and would be in the position of neutron should they choose to split them out | 21:02 |
anteaya | right | 21:02 |
devananda | the ilo driver team is working on running CI, but it's not operaational yet | 21:02 |
anteaya | so your situation is unique as far as I know | 21:02 |
devananda | others promise it but haven't delivered -- and I haven't pushed too hard on that yet, though I may start | 21:02 |
anteaya | in that you prepared an interface for drivers in the first design | 21:02 |
devananda | right | 21:02 |
anteaya | rather than the other projects who ended up with them in tree | 21:02 |
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anteaya | and then are trying to figure out what to do next | 21:03 |
devananda | exactly | 21:03 |
devananda | it was a design principle in ironic, but not in nova/cinder/neutron | 21:03 |
openstackgerrit | Thanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Consolidate CFP settings into a common function https://review.openstack.org/158989 | 21:03 |
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anteaya | so since your drivers have never been in tree, you have no obligation to weigh in on how they are tested | 21:03 |
anteaya | or if they are | 21:03 |
anteaya | where as the other projects have thoughts about that | 21:04 |
devananda | where we are right now is interesting - this cycle has added a lot to the driver API, but afaik we havent broken any drivers | 21:04 |
anteaya | since they are or were in tree | 21:04 |
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anteaya | congratulations | 21:04 |
devananda | anteaya: oh - many of our hardware drivers are in tree | 21:04 |
anteaya | how are they tested? | 21:05 |
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devananda | unit tests, unfortunately that's it | 21:05 |
anteaya | interesting | 21:05 |
devananda | as long as they implement the driver API, they should be fine | 21:06 |
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anteaya | should be and is are worlds apart sometimes | 21:06 |
devananda | i mean, fine from the upstream standpoint -- we dont make a claim that it works with said hardware | 21:06 |
anteaya | okay | 21:06 |
devananda | that's on the driver author. | 21:06 |
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anteaya | I need to not computer for a while | 21:06 |
anteaya | thanks for the chat and the education | 21:06 |
devananda | ok - ciao! | 21:06 |
anteaya | see ya | 21:07 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Email base plugin. https://review.openstack.org/151948 | 21:07 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Email Send Cron Worker https://review.openstack.org/151416 | 21:07 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Email Outbox https://review.openstack.org/151413 | 21:07 |
openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Redirect Browsers from API to Client https://review.openstack.org/155551 | 21:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Thanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Consolidate CFP settings into a common function https://review.openstack.org/158989 | 21:09 |
jroll | mordred: WELP http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-rival-gitorious-will-shut-june-1/ | 21:09 |
greghaynes | is that a joke? | 21:11 |
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greghaynes | https://about.gitlab.com/2015/03/03/gitlab-acquires-gitorious/ | 21:13 |
mordred | wow. well, that happened | 21:13 |
greghaynes | wow | 21:13 |
pleia2 | :( | 21:13 |
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clarkb | hpcloud has a high error rate right now, going to look at it to make sure its not something we are doing | 21:29 |
clarkb | then hopefully code review time | 21:29 |
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clarkb | looks like we may be hitting ssh timeouts to get on the nodes | 21:35 |
clarkb | so high number of deletes and builds results | 21:35 |
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marun | jeblair: It looks like skip-if is now working on both check and gate pipelines. Previously it was only affecting the check pipeline for some reason. Did you fix something or is it 'magic'? | 21:36 |
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jeblair | marun: i don't think so? | 21:39 |
marun | jeblair: 'magic' it is. I'll cross my fingers in the hopes that we don't see a regression. | 21:40 |
jeblair | marun: did the nova config change merge? maybe that fixed it? | 21:40 |
marun | jeblair: it did merge, yes. | 21:40 |
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marun | jeblair: the nova skip-if seemed to override the neutron one completely, though. | 21:40 |
marun | jeblair: since it appeared later in the config | 21:41 |
marun | jeblair: I was previously seeing the check queue with a skip-if filtered set of jobs, but then the gate queue unfiltered. | 21:41 |
clarkb | jhesketh: can you see my comment on 158514? not sure how worried about that case I should be | 21:41 |
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clarkb | hrm also seeing http 500 errors from hpcloud | 21:41 |
marun | jeblair: question regarding the integrated change queue... | 21:42 |
marun | jeblair: skip-if allows limiting the jobs to run on non-functional changes (tests, docs, etc) | 21:42 |
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marun | jeblair: but non-functional changes are still queued with functional changes | 21:43 |
marun | jeblair: e.g. http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 21:43 |
marun | jeblair: where neutron change 153532,3 is behind a bunch of functional changes | 21:43 |
marun | jeblair: and if one of them fails, it would have to be retested, despite no relying on any of the changes ahead of it | 21:43 |
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marun | jeblair: maybe this implies establishing a criteria, separate from skip-if, to determine whether a change belongs in the integrated queue? | 21:44 |
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marun | jeblair: just a thought, clearly not a priority. | 21:44 |
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zxiiro | zaro: thanks so much! This unblocks me from some things I need to do. | 21:50 |
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jhesketh | Morning | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Config File Provider to Maven Project module https://review.openstack.org/155865 | 21:52 |
clarkb | jhesketh: good morning, please see comment on 158514 and see if I am over worried | 21:52 |
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greghaynes | jhesketh: Hey, im poking at making a github trigger and I was pointed at your great source/trigger refactoring patch stack | 21:55 |
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BobBall | So I've set up zuul.openstack.xenproject.org as a virtualhost shared with jenkins (had to change the vhost to be zuul.openstack.xenproject.org:80 instead of *:80) but now it can't get status.json. It used to work when it was just the IP address so I'm not sure what else I need to change to get it working with a name? | 21:55 |
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greghaynes | jhesketh: Trying to wrap my head around what youre going for there, once I do I think I should base the github changes off your stack? | 21:56 |
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jhesketh | clarkb: yeah good point re globs. I'll turn that into a set shortly. | 21:57 |
jhesketh | greghaynes: yeah that'd make it much easier for me and maybe even easier for you | 21:57 |
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greghaynes | Awesome. I also left you some review comments on the bottom of the patch stack | 21:59 |
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BobBall | oh... silly me... my zuul process had died. I just realised there was nothing listening on 8001. Sorry. | 22:01 |
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clarkb | jeblair: I have comments on 140043, but nothing worth a -1 so I +2'd not sure if you want ot look at them anyways? also I need to check hiera before approving anything | 22:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul: Ensure zuul can co-exist with other sites. https://review.openstack.org/160997 | 22:03 |
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mrodden | qq: how does -infra manage DNS entries... didn't see anything on the wiki or ci.openstack.org | 22:04 |
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clarkb | mrodden: we use rackspace hosted dns | 22:04 |
mrodden | for all of it? | 22:04 |
mordred | yup | 22:05 |
mrodden | kk cool | 22:05 |
mrodden | thanks | 22:05 |
clarkb | jeblair: any reason for not approving the stack that starts at 158176? | 22:05 |
clarkb | I will approve it if you are ok with me doing so, that will get us moving on the ansible fixes | 22:06 |
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clarkb | mordred: ^ can you think of any reason to not get that stack in? | 22:07 |
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jeblair | marun: hi; was on phone... (that's becomming o common refrain :) | 22:10 |
marun | jeblair: no worries ;) | 22:10 |
jeblair | marun: i think the changes should still stay in the same queue because of the git commit ordering | 22:11 |
marun | jeblair: I guess the answer is that the integrated gate can't really be partially undone | 22:11 |
jeblair | marun: it's true that they aren't going to affect any shared jobs (because there are none), but they could affect the state of the git tree (including merge conflicts etc), which then might affect other changes (which may share jobs) | 22:12 |
jeblair | marun: i think so. i think partial separation would be highly complex | 22:12 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-specs: Retitle some specs for clarity https://review.openstack.org/160580 | 22:12 |
clarkb | also FYI everyone I believe our rax reboots will happen overnight today | 22:12 |
ttx | jeblair: about stackforge... I think *most* projects there should move to openstack/. Just not *all* of them because (1) some of them miss a critical checkbox (like say, have an elected leadership) and (2) some of them don't want to submit to TC oversight | 22:12 |
clarkb | so things may be really funny in the morning | 22:12 |
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jeblair | marun: on the plus side, however, those changes should still eventually make it through, and are highly likely to land since, after all, they are running fewer jobs | 22:13 |
ttx | jeblair: couldn't articulate that in-meeting | 22:13 |
mordred | clarkb: I was going to babysit when it went in | 22:13 |
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clarkb | mordred: oh, so I should wait then? | 22:13 |
marun | jeblair: right. if a failing job like grenade is failing functional changes, then the non-functional changes will eventually bubble up | 22:13 |
mordred | clarkb: nah - I'm just AFK | 22:14 |
mordred | and it affects our ops systems | 22:14 |
jeblair | marun: yep | 22:14 |
clarkb | mordred: if it breaks we should expect puppet to stop running on nodes right? | 22:14 |
mordred | yah | 22:14 |
sdague | marun: so I think the thing you might actually want is reordering of jobs on a reset | 22:14 |
mordred | it shouldn't kill anything | 22:14 |
clarkb | mordred: I think I can babysit that if you are ok with me going ahead with this | 22:14 |
mordred | totally | 22:14 |
marun | sdague: ah, so that non-functional jobs get priority? | 22:14 |
clarkb | mordred: cool will approve now then | 22:15 |
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jeblair | marun: also, changes afterwords can take advantage of them (eg, new unit tests) immediately just by being enqueued afterwords, and changes in check can now take advantage of them with Depends-On | 22:15 |
marun | (overloading 'functional' like mad here, but hopefully the meaning is clear) | 22:15 |
sdague | or bubble sorting by # of jobs | 22:15 |
marun | sdague: that would seem like pretty easy to implement at least | 22:16 |
sdague | because changes with fewer jobs probably have less chance of causing resets | 22:16 |
jeblair | i'd like to avoid that | 22:16 |
marun | jeblair: why? | 22:16 |
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marun | jeblair: +1 to changes taking advantage of test changes/additions, that's a nice thing to get basically for free | 22:17 |
clarkb | mordred: looks like I need to approve the first one, let it apply then approve the second too | 22:17 |
clarkb | so I will only approve the first change at this point | 22:18 |
jeblair | it actually seems fairy complex to me, and i think it has a limited benefit -- the change should land eventually, i'm not sure what landing faster gets us, especially since we can start to build on it before it lands | 22:18 |
sdague | I guess with Depends-On it's less meaningful | 22:18 |
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jeblair | ttx: that seems reasonable. i'd like to see where we can get in terms of most projects moving over, because it feels to me like that's why most of them are here, and then figure out what we do with what's left :) | 22:19 |
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marun | jeblair: I guess I'm missing the part about it being complicated. | 22:19 |
marun | jeblair: and landing things quicker from a development perspective has real value. | 22:19 |
marun | jeblair: in CI-land, eventually may be enough, but I think there is a real cost in terms of developer productivity in slowing down the merge rate. | 22:19 |
jeblair | marun: with Depends-On you can start using required changes before they land | 22:20 |
marun | jeblair: 'start using' is in terms of gerrit | 22:20 |
marun | jeblair: sure | 22:20 |
clarkb | moving the changes shouldn't affect the merge rate | 22:20 |
sdague | I think the time where queue reordering has value is in landing broadly impacting bugs, like the er bugs | 22:21 |
marun | sdague: +1 | 22:21 |
marun | clarkb: I'm not sure how that follows. | 22:21 |
sdague | because it will save a bunch of check jobs from being invalid | 22:21 |
jeblair | sdague: i agree, which is why we do have a policy of moving those | 22:21 |
pleia2 | clarkb: so I thought my dns change went fine yesterday (nothing in output led me to believe otherwise), but can you confirm in the dns panel that ci-backup-rs-ord.openstack.org was created? | 22:21 |
marun | clarkb: blocking non-functional changes behind functional changes that are blocked on some gate problem absolutely slows things down | 22:21 |
clarkb | marun: because we already reorder the tree completely on a single failure | 22:21 |
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clarkb | marun: so pipeline throughput should be pretty constant regradless of order | 22:22 |
marun | clarkb: what's the criteria for reordering? | 22:22 |
sdague | jeblair: yep, it would be cool, and I think we talked about it in .de, to do that automatically at reset points | 22:22 |
clarkb | marun: failed job | 22:22 |
sdague | so it wouldn't require manual intervention | 22:22 |
marun | clarkb: so if we have 5 jobs that are all going to fail on the same thing, and something behind that fixes it? | 22:22 |
clarkb | marun: you are not talking about changes that fix any jobs | 22:22 |
marun | clarkb: uh | 22:23 |
clarkb | unless I am missing something the suggestion is to put changes that don't do the integration tests at the front of the queue | 22:23 |
clarkb | that shouldn't fix any integration tests by virtue of them not being part of integration testing | 22:23 |
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ttx | jeblair: most of the candidates definitely live there and those checked 90% of the boxes. | 22:23 |
jeblair | marun: our policy is to promote changes that fix bugs that are affecting many or all gate jobs | 22:23 |
jeblair | marun: this has been true for some time | 22:23 |
jeblair | sdague: and yes, would love it to be more automated :) | 22:24 |
ttx | jeblair: although interestingly nobody asked yet | 22:24 |
marun | jeblair: I think ordering things in the manner suggested has the potential to automatically fix some failures. | 22:24 |
jeblair | ttx: yeah, i think last week we said that we wanted to start slow :) | 22:24 |
ttx | slow yes, not standing still ! | 22:24 |
marun | jeblair: certainly, functional tests have the potential to be racey, and if the queue order was in least-jobs-first on reset, then a fix would automatically bubble up | 22:25 |
marun | jeblair: as per sdague's suggestion | 22:25 |
jeblair | marun: a fix to an integration test race should run all the jobs though, right? | 22:26 |
marun | jeblair: I'm not talking about a fix to an integration test race. that would still require manual intervention | 22:26 |
marun | jeblair: I'm talking about a project-specific functional test failure | 22:26 |
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sdague | marun: but in those cases, you just tell folks to rebase on your change | 22:26 |
marun | jeblair: we had one a few weeks ago in neutron when we tried to rejigger eventlet monkeypatching | 22:26 |
sdague | and then they get running locally again quickly | 22:27 |
marun | sdague: hmmm | 22:28 |
greghaynes | jhesketh: Hey, im curious what kinds of ABC issues you hit on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119530/ | 22:28 |
dougwig | is this gate slowness just last minute rush? or is something up? :) | 22:28 |
clarkb | dougwig: hpcloud is unhappy | 22:28 |
sdague | oh hai 50% of nodes in building unhappy I see | 22:29 |
marun | sdague: that would fix things locally, yes. Wouldn't we have to run a lot of unnecessary jobs until everyone had rebased, though? | 22:29 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-ansible: Put the library file into the role https://review.openstack.org/158176 | 22:29 |
clarkb | dougwig: results in a lot of discarded nodes there, you can sort of see that in the node graph, lots of builing and deleting | 22:29 |
marun | sdague: and pushed their changes to gerrit? | 22:29 |
dougwig | clarkb: gotcha, thanks. | 22:29 |
sdague | marun: realistically, I'd be surprised if you could communicate to all the contributors and get them to push patches rebasing on it before your code was merged anyway. | 22:30 |
jhesketh | greghaynes: hmm, it was quite a while ago now | 22:30 |
greghaynes | :( | 22:30 |
jhesketh | greghaynes: I think it wasn't quite the right fit, but I can look at it again if you'd like | 22:31 |
greghaynes | well, it is really a text book ABC setup | 22:31 |
jhesketh | it's also quite possible I stuffed up | 22:31 |
sdague | the automation for the gate bugs to auto bubble would be cool if you wanted to get that rolling though | 22:31 |
greghaynes | in that patch specifically you dont need to use any of the abc magic because the methods are not actually abstract, but in the source base class this is | 22:31 |
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greghaynes | er, in the source base class it would be useful | 22:31 |
marun | sdague: wouldn't that imply a probably rebase failure as opposed to running a bunch of jobs doomed to fail? | 22:31 |
marun | sdague: ok :) | 22:31 |
greghaynes | jhesketh: id also be happy to poke at it if youd like :) | 22:32 |
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clarkb | dougwig: it didn't appear to be actionable form our end fwiw, lots of timeouts and http 500 errors | 22:32 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stackforge-libra from gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/160683 | 22:32 |
sdague | marun: and, honestly, the fixing the gate bug autobubble would probably give you nearly the same throughput gains as getting your test patches promoted, because it would fast path fixes that caused the resets in the first place | 22:33 |
dougwig | clarkb: just bad timing that all of neutron's job's broke yesterday. :) | 22:33 |
sdague | and less resets == more velocity | 22:33 |
dougwig | /job's/jobs/ | 22:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: zuul-swift-upload support recursive globs https://review.openstack.org/158514 | 22:33 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable swift logs for python jobs https://review.openstack.org/156521 | 22:33 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Upload python test results to swift https://review.openstack.org/156522 | 22:33 |
jhesketh | greghaynes: sure, that'd be awesome :-) | 22:33 |
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jhesketh | clarkb: fixed up 158514 ^ | 22:33 |
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marun | sdague: I figure it would only get more useful as we rely more on project-specific testing. | 22:34 |
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clarkb | jhesketh: why sort on the lower() results? | 22:35 |
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jhesketh | clarkb: case-insenstivie sorting, otherwise we'd have A C Z, c d z | 22:36 |
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clarkb | gotcha | 22:37 |
jhesketh | matter of preference, although I'm not sure what apache sorts on | 22:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove billingstack from gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/160686 | 22:42 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/developer-reference repository https://review.openstack.org/161015 | 22:42 |
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clarkb | ok ansible roles are in place and update now, next run through in a few minute should tell us if things are working | 22:43 |
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jeblair | clarkb: i agree with your comments on the askbot change; i think we probably have some things to add to hiera before spinning it up. | 22:45 |
jeblair | clarkb: would be good to get confirmation from mrmartin whether he wants precise or trusty | 22:46 |
clarkb | jeblair: ok | 22:46 |
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HeOS | anteaya, thanks for answer, I'll check it tomorrow. :) | 22:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Added python-dateutil https://review.openstack.org/161017 | 22:53 |
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pleia2 | StevenK: over here :) | 22:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-httpd: rename to openstackinfra https://review.openstack.org/161018 | 22:55 |
openstackgerrit | Brian Hunter proposed openstack-infra/project-config: channel configuration for #openstack-ko https://review.openstack.org/161020 | 22:56 |
clarkb | mordred: it looks like the deletion of /etc/ansible/library failed because you need the recurse flag, I am just going to ignore that for the moment so I can see if next run is happy | 22:58 |
clarkb | mordred: I can push an update for that if you want or we can remove the dir manually | 22:58 |
openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Allow puppet-httpd to be publised to the forge https://review.openstack.org/161022 | 22:59 |
nibalizer | jeblair: 161018 and 161022 are I think what we need to publish httpd | 22:59 |
nibalizer | as well as manually creating the module through the webui | 22:59 |
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jeblair | nibalizer: cool, +2 | 23:03 |
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clarkb | I am thinking we need better ansible logging | 23:04 |
clarkb | I can't figure out if ansible/puppet were happy with the failed recurse dir deletion or not | 23:04 |
jeblair | mordred: the puppet forge username/password does not work for me | 23:04 |
jeblair | nibalizer: ^ :( | 23:04 |
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anteaya | HeOS: okay | 23:05 |
clarkb | manual pupept run indicates that puppet does not fail in this instance | 23:05 |
clarkb | that is amazing btw | 23:06 |
clarkb | Notice: /Stage[main]/Ansible/File[/etc/ansible/library]: Not removing directory; use 'force' to override | 23:06 |
anteaya | HeOS: submit some sort of change to gerrit and let the review process guide you, just have a clear explanation of what you want the patch to do in the commit message | 23:06 |
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nibalizer | jeblair: :( are you using the values from hiera? | 23:08 |
jeblair | yeah | 23:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-ansible: Remove embedded ansible role https://review.openstack.org/158177 | 23:10 |
openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-ansible: Force /etc/ansible/library deletion https://review.openstack.org/161027 | 23:10 |
clarkb | jeblair: mordred ^ that forces the dir removal and that should go in before 158177 so that it gets removed before we cleanup that puppet resource | 23:11 |
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jeblair | clarkb: aprvd | 23:12 |
clarkb | ty | 23:12 |
anteaya | jeblair and ttx (though he is probably asleep now) if we are going to have substantially more than 20 projects participating in the ptl election process we will have to look at our nomination and election workflow | 23:14 |
anteaya | doing 20 projects nominations via the email list and wikipage worked for taht many projects but will be too hard to keep straight for more than 20 | 23:15 |
anteaya | plus if we end up running more than 6 actual polls at one time, tristan and I | 23:15 |
anteaya | keep in mind that we go over the election roll manually after the generated lists have been provided to us | 23:16 |
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anteaya | and I'll just throw this out there, I want to talk about how to approach presenting the answers to questions in a self-mixing order this time | 23:16 |
anteaya | for the tc election | 23:16 |
clarkb | I still think an opt in voter process would be nice, not sure that that conflicts with bylaws or not | 23:16 |
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anteaya | as I think that information has some benefit but the current approach (me continually editing the wikipage for 3 days) is no sustainable | 23:17 |
anteaya | it does conflict | 23:17 |
anteaya | and yes, it would be nice | 23:17 |
anteaya | so much easier to generate the rolls | 23:17 |
jeblair | anteaya: those are all good points :) | 23:17 |
heyongli | hi, anteaya | 23:17 |
anteaya | jeblair: thought I'd just add them to the backscroll | 23:18 |
jeblair | clarkb: i think that's what signing up as an individual member should mean (since it is not required to submit code) | 23:18 |
anteaya | lookf for a meeting agenda item soon that brings those up for the meeting | 23:18 |
anteaya | heyongli: hello there | 23:18 |
anteaya | heyongli: nice to see you, how have you been? | 23:18 |
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heyongli | anteaya, just say hello to you, good Spring festival, -:0 | 23:18 |
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anteaya | heyongli: good spring festival to you as well | 23:19 |
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anteaya | jeblair: I have no argument | 23:19 |
anteaya | the problem is the charter | 23:19 |
anteaya | both the openstack bylaws and the tc charter | 23:20 |
anteaya | anything to make this easier to run an election, I'm all for it | 23:20 |
anteaya | as long as the election follows the rules | 23:20 |
jeblair | anteaya: i don't think those are a problem -- they are written for ATCs | 23:20 |
jeblair | anteaya: an ATC is a contributor who is also a member | 23:20 |
anteaya | I'm open to having an evaluation of the bylaws and charter and having a good chat about them | 23:21 |
jeblair | anteaya: we currently require a contributor to _be_ a member, but that is not actually reuired by the bylaws | 23:21 |
anteaya | right | 23:21 |
anteaya | I'm open to that interpretation | 23:21 |
anteaya | convince the tc | 23:21 |
jeblair | anteaya: er, the foundation's lawyer has that interpretation | 23:21 |
jeblair | anteaya: i don't think i need to convince anyone | 23:22 |
jeblair | we just need to stop requiring individual membership for contribution | 23:22 |
jeblair | that bit of code is in the foundation membership system, which i can not fix | 23:22 |
clarkb | I wonder if that is part of the public www repo | 23:22 |
anteaya | I'm in service to the tc | 23:22 |
anteaya | if the tc says do it this way, okay | 23:23 |
anteaya | but I do have to recognize how I have done it in the past | 23:23 |
anteaya | so not disagreeing, just would like some support for that position | 23:24 |
jeblair | anteaya: the charter is already written this way. nothing needs to change. ATCs will still be the electorate | 23:24 |
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anteaya | and glad to have yours | 23:24 |
anteaya | sure | 23:24 |
anteaya | I would like to hear ttx's thoughts on your reading | 23:24 |
jeblair | anteaya: there may be fewer ATCs once contributors actually have the choice as to whether or not they become an individual member | 23:25 |
anteaya | oh wouldn't that be lovely | 23:25 |
anteaya | you paint a utopia | 23:25 |
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jeblair | (i don't expect there to be greatly fewer, but the choice is important) | 23:26 |
anteaya | I'm all for choice | 23:26 |
anteaya | and any fewer would be a bit of light in a dark tunnel | 23:26 |
jeblair | anteaya: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/charter.html#voters-for-tc-seats-atc | 23:26 |
jeblair | anteaya: http://governance.openstack.org/reference/charter.html#voters-for-ptl-seats-apc | 23:27 |
jeblair | both of those are already written as "subsets of individual members" | 23:27 |
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anteaya | yes I confirm "subsets of individual members" | 23:28 |
anteaya | in both ptl and tc sections | 23:29 |
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anteaya | jeblair: so what would you like to see happen | 23:30 |
anteaya | how do you envision the electorate is comprised? | 23:31 |
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jeblair | anteaya: currently you have to sign the cla to contribute, and to sign the cla you have to be a member. | 23:31 |
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anteaya | so far I follow you | 23:32 |
jeblair | anteaya: the second is confirmed as not necessary by the foundation counsel, so we merely need to stop doing that | 23:32 |
jeblair | anteaya: so then to contribute, you sign the cla. to vote, you become a member | 23:32 |
jeblair | anteaya: then the electorate is the set of members who have contributed (as specified by the charter) | 23:32 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-ansible: Force /etc/ansible/library deletion https://review.openstack.org/161027 | 23:33 |
jeblair | anteaya: since you asked, i also want to see the cla replaced with the dco | 23:33 |
anteaya | how is that different from what takes place now | 23:33 |
jeblair | anteaya: people might choose not to become members, yet contribute anyway | 23:33 |
anteaya | yes I think I was familiar with your position on the cla and dco but thanks for confirming | 23:33 |
openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed stackforge/gertty: Add change list options to configuration https://review.openstack.org/161032 | 23:34 |
anteaya | one problem is that we don't know who the folks are who wish to contribute and not become members | 23:34 |
jeblair | i am hoping that the board will take that on this year, since last year they expressed concern about quorum. i think those issues have been addressed, for the moment at least. | 23:34 |
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SpamapS | jeblair: just got a pretty weird traceback from gertty.. | 23:34 |
SpamapS | http://paste.openstack.org/show/186950/ | 23:34 |
SpamapS | jeblair: debugging now | 23:35 |
anteaya | plus, I do belive we addressed that as an issue last round of elections by finding something in the bylaws that equated contributing with membership | 23:35 |
anteaya | I actually was thinking of bringing that up again to see if there was an expiry associated with that | 23:35 |
jeblair | anteaya: they are users in gerrit who have not become members. we don't have much of a reason to track them though, if they do not become members. | 23:35 |
anteaya | since it fit our situation last time as the foundation was letting folks delete memberships | 23:35 |
SpamapS | was while looking at I6c5a962260741dcf6f89da9a33b96372a719b7b0 | 23:35 |
jeblair | anteaya: i'm not sure what you're referenging wrt to "finding something in the bylaws that equated contributing with membership" | 23:36 |
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anteaya | let me find it, it was from last round | 23:36 |
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ianw | dstufft: "DEPRECATION: Uninstalling a distutils installed project (six) has been deprecated and will be removed in a future version. This is due to the fact that uninstalling a distutils project will only partially uninstall the project." <- does this mean uninstall is broken now? | 23:37 |
jeblair | SpamapS: what size is your terminal? | 23:37 |
dstufft | ianw: that means uninstall has always been broken if the project was originally installed with distutils | 23:37 |
dstufft | because distutils doesn't record what files were installed | 23:37 |
openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add experimental ceilometer elasticsearch db jobs https://review.openstack.org/160824 | 23:38 |
dstufft | so all we could ever really do is remove the metadata that says the thing was installed | 23:38 |
waynr | clarkb, zaro, are either of you going to the jenkins user conference? i am considering submitting a talk about JJB and the way we used it at puppetlabs (based on a similar presentation i gave for our engineering department today)...thought i'd check to see if either of you had similar plans or know of someone else with similar plans (also, it's not clear to me if I even should be presenting about JJB | 23:38 |
dstufft | but leave behind the actual files | 23:38 |
waynr | at conferences, not being a core developer) | 23:38 |
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ianw | dstufft: hmm, i wonder if we just didn't notice before. keystone has started installing cryptography, which requires six > 1.9 ... but yeah it's leaving the packaged versions (from python-six pkg) there | 23:38 |
SpamapS | jeblair: um, "really big" ? Gnome terminal isn't telling me. :-P | 23:38 |
ianw | but removing python-six package takes out cloud-init | 23:38 |
dstufft | ianw: yea, people just didn't notice because pip would happily then overwrite the left over files | 23:39 |
SpamapS | jeblair: 132x43 | 23:39 |
anteaya | jeblair: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-tc/2014-September/000820.html | 23:39 |
SpamapS | jeblair: can't reproduce thus far. | 23:39 |
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dstufft | ianw: fwiw we're unlikely to actually remove that anytime soon, it'll probably stick around longer hten normal | 23:40 |
dstufft | but I like the warning anyways becuase it tells people something isn't quite right | 23:40 |
anteaya | jeblair: this was in response to people having the ability to resign their foundation membership but infra not having access to the updated database of foundation membership | 23:40 |
dstufft | ianw: if this is on a Debian deritive, Jessie makes this better by modifying pip so it won't touch python-six, it'll just install six into /usr/local | 23:40 |
dstufft | I want to get that into all distros, but $TIME | 23:41 |
anteaya | jeblair: my read of it is that an accepted contribution counts as membership for 365 days | 23:41 |
ianw | dstufft: no, centos. but it might actually be something else going on here "Skipping six, due to already being wheel." | 23:41 |
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anteaya | which is the window for electorate eligibilyt | 23:41 |
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clarkb | ok next puppet run at 23:45UTC should remove the ansible library dir then I can merge the next change in the list | 23:41 |
anteaya | so people who don't choose to have a membership will still be counted as members of the electorate according to this definition | 23:42 |
anteaya | since merging a commit confers membership status | 23:42 |
dstufft | ianw: future versions of Fedora (so I assume RHEL and CentOS at some point) will use pip (and thus setuptools) to do installs of python stuff inside of rpms | 23:42 |
dstufft | doesn't help today ofc :( | 23:42 |
clarkb | also looks like our puppet runs take just over 15 mnutes so our current 15 minute cycle is really a 30 minute cycle | 23:44 |
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clarkb | we can probably tighten up the loop a bit by running in a 20 minute cycl | 23:44 |
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jeblair | anteaya: i find the wording of that to be very confusing. i am not certain i agree with radcliffe's interpretation. | 23:46 |
anteaya | jeblair: I'm fine with you disagreeing with radcliffe's interpretation | 23:47 |
jeblair | anteaya: i do not see how someone who resigned individual membership (or later, one who chooses never to become one) could be considered an individual member for the purposes of the election | 23:47 |
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ianw | dstufft: ok, i think something else is going on. pip is saying it installed six-1.9.0, but it didn't ... http://logs.openstack.org/79/153079/19/check/check-tempest-dsvm-centos7/ec74a80/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-02-27_16_48_58_712 | 23:47 |
anteaya | jeblair: I do not argue with you | 23:47 |
jeblair | SpamapS: i can reproduce at 191x98 | 23:48 |
jeblair | anteaya: it will be interesting to see what happens :) | 23:48 |
anteaya | but I have two hats here, my hat as a person (make it opt in) and my hat as an official (it has to comply with the rules as written and interpreted) | 23:48 |
anteaya | agreed | 23:48 |
anteaya | I'm all for having a discussion about it | 23:48 |
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anteaya | but my role is to do as the tc directs | 23:48 |
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anteaya | and if the tc directs me to do something which is easier for me, yahooo!! | 23:49 |
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anteaya | but wishing doesn't make it so | 23:49 |
jeblair | anteaya: i believe mark radcliffe might have provided two conflicting interpretations of different parts of the bylaws | 23:49 |
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asselin | jeblair, would you like to clarkb's nodepool chang? we should get this and needed by patches merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151749/5 | 23:50 |
anteaya | I have no objection that your observation has merit | 23:50 |
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jeblair | anteaya: i believe if we boil them down, he has said that "membership is not required for contribution" and "contribution automatically grants membership". | 23:50 |
jeblair | anteaya: i suppose those may not be technically conflicting. they certainly seem discordant. | 23:51 |
anteaya | he may very well have done so | 23:51 |
anteaya | discordant there is a good word | 23:51 |
clarkb | pleia2: looks like git-fe01 and 02 have similargroup issues and you aren't getting a user there as a result | 23:51 |
SpamapS | jeblair: ahh ok, I think it's possible it is just an urwid bug. | 23:51 |
anteaya | so having the tc arrive at an interpretation would help me a lot here | 23:51 |
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jeblair | SpamapS: though i have done some terrible things to urwid; i hope i am not responsible | 23:52 |
clarkb | pleia2: I will have to correct those in the near future as well | 23:52 |
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clarkb | this makes me wonder if the login.defs file isn't being appliedearly enough to fix these issues | 23:52 |
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jeblair | clarkb: are we using requires? do we need to do phases? | 23:53 |
clarkb | (I want to get this ansible stuff flipped over first though since I am in the process of doing that) | 23:53 |
SpamapS | jeblair: urwid probably had it coming. | 23:53 |
clarkb | jeblair: I need to refresh my memory on it | 23:53 |
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clarkb | jeblair: I think I see why this happens. login.defs is applied before all virtual users but not before any normal users | 23:54 |
clarkb | jeblair: so normal users eg gerrit2 can get in first | 23:54 |
jeblair | asselin: i lack the brainpower to review that now, i have marked it for tomorrow | 23:55 |
asselin | jeblair, thanks | 23:55 |
clarkb | nibalizer: if I do User { require => SomeResource } is that global to all manifests? | 23:55 |
clarkb | nibalizer: or is it manifest/class specific? scoping in puppet always has me questioning things | 23:55 |
clarkb | crinkle: ^ you too? | 23:55 |
SpamapS | mordred: gitorious? | 23:56 |
SpamapS | mordred: for process-config-drive?? | 23:56 |
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clarkb | jeblair: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/users.pp#n11 I think we need to do that for User and Group too | 23:57 |
clarkb | but I need to hunt down what the scoping is on that | 23:58 |
crinkle | clarkb: it's not global but it will leak in weird ways | 23:58 |
crinkle | let me find a reference | 23:58 |
clarkb | hrm maybe its easiest to do in an earlier run phase? I know people hate those things though | 23:59 |
clarkb | crinkle: thank you | 23:59 |
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jeblair | clarkb: if that's a workable solution, this seems like an actually good use of the feature | 23:59 |
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