| samueldmq | anteaya, although I didnt know recheck worked if jenkins already had passed :) | 00:00 |
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| clarkb | mordred: it looks like we need to setup a clouds.yaml? | 00:00 |
| StevenK | zigo: I don't require nodepool or zuul in Debian -- my packaging building plan is to make use of the running ones that infra maintains -- however, I would be happy to help with the effort if you wish. | 00:00 |
| anteaya | samueldmq: yes just leaving the comment `recheck` will trigger jenkins check jobs to run again | 00:01 |
| zigo | StevenK: I'd love to get these in, yes. | 00:01 |
| zigo | StevenK: This may be used by the Debian CI itself, once we get OpenStack setup by the DSA. | 00:01 |
| zigo | StevenK: Do you know who is Zobel? | 00:01 |
| zigo | StevenK: He's one of the DSA who pushed me to put Kilo in the official jessie-backports so that he could deploy Kilo at the Bytemarks sponsored hosting (that's where Alioth is...). | 00:02 |
| samueldmq | anteaya, nice :) | 00:02 |
| zigo | StevenK: At some point, that openstack instance will be used to do Debian's own CI, and it would make a lot of sense to have zuul and nodepool there. | 00:02 |
| zigo | StevenK: Where may I find the packaging for zuul and nodepool btw? | 00:03 |
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| StevenK | zigo: Martin? | 00:04 |
| Clint | zigo: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul-packaging | 00:04 |
| zigo | StevenK: Yes. | 00:04 |
| StevenK | zigo: I think I've dealt with him, yeah. | 00:04 |
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| zigo | StevenK: I've made up my mind btw, and I think all Debian/Ubuntu packages will be prefixed by "deb-" instead of "pkg-" | 00:06 |
| zigo | StevenK: And I'll use stackforge first... | 00:06 |
| StevenK | I still think we can use seperate branches of one repo. pkg-nova and then branches of fedora/f21 centos/7 debian/sid ubuntu/wily etc | 00:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: no need. I can fix that without it | 00:07 |
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| zigo | StevenK: I've been told that "openstack-pkg-tools" isn't a good name, and that I should specify it's debian only. | 00:08 |
| zigo | StevenK: I have more of these. | 00:08 |
| zigo | StevenK: It's confusing. | 00:08 |
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| zigo | StevenK: Also, it'd be error-prone to setup the ACLs on per-branch basis. | 00:08 |
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| StevenK | zigo: ubuntu/* debian/* no? | 00:08 |
| zigo | StevenK: Fedora/RDO guys also expressed their liking for separate git repos. | 00:08 |
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| StevenK | We already do that in gerrit for stable maintaince | 00:09 |
| zigo | StevenK: Our goal is to have a unique branch for Ubuntu and Debian. | 00:09 |
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| zigo | StevenK: So just debian/kilo debian/liberty, etc. | 00:09 |
| fungi | if the distros are going to collaborate on packaging then having one repo for each package name with separate branches for each distro/release makes sense. if the distros are not going to collaborate on this then separate repos probably makes more sense (though we can still restrict approval for changes to different groups for different branches of a given repo) | 00:09 |
| zigo | StevenK: On the rare cases where we can't agree, then maybe we'll do a ubuntu/* branch, but I'll do my best so it doesn't happen. | 00:09 |
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| StevenK | fungi: Right, sort of my plan -- if everyone works together we can use one repo. | 00:10 |
| zigo | fungi: It's going to be hard to collaborate between the RPM and DEB world. | 00:10 |
| zigo | So, we would like that separation. | 00:10 |
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| zigo | Maybe deb-nova and rpm-nova ... | 00:10 |
| fungi | zigo: how do you separately evolve packaging for nova on debian/jessie and debian/stretch for example? | 00:10 |
| zigo | Something like that. | 00:10 |
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| zigo | fungi: I've always maintained things so that a single source package can be just rebuild on different releases. | 00:11 |
| zigo | It shouldn't be an issue. | 00:11 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann, I will work on filing a bug. Maybe tomorrow | 00:11 |
| zigo | It hasn't been so far. | 00:11 |
| jlvillal | Or tonight | 00:11 |
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| fungi | zigo: ahh, okay. so as long as the oldest release you want to support has at least the compat level you declare for policy... i guess you don't bump compat often? | 00:11 |
| zigo | fungi: You got the point. | 00:12 |
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| zigo | fungi: I have a tool called "pkgos-reqsdiff" which checks whatever is in Jessie compared to what's in the requirements.txt. | 00:12 |
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| zigo | fungi: I intend to run this against whatever is in Trusty too... | 00:12 |
| dhellmann | jlvillal: thanks | 00:13 |
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| fungi | i did always find it weird that the developer sites/linters like to complain at you that your compat level is older than the current policy version | 00:13 |
| zigo | fungi: I have run it for all Kilo packages, deprecating the use of Wheezy. | 00:13 |
| fungi | zigo: makes sense, yeah | 00:13 |
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| jlvillal | What happened to plain text eavesdrop logs? /me not wanting pretty HTML version | 00:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Goirand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds the 1st initial package for upstream infra packaging https://review.openstack.org/185164 | 00:17 |
| fungi | jlvillal: still in the same place, just drop the .html extension from the url | 00:18 |
| jlvillal | fungi, Hmmm. Why isn't there a link to that? /me grumbles | 00:18 |
| jlvillal | fungi, Thanks! | 00:18 |
| fungi | jlvillal: though i agree there should be a plaintext link in the html | 00:18 |
| fungi | where by "should" i mean i would happily approve a patch implementing one | 00:19 |
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| samueldmq | anteaya, yes that worked .. I received a notification by email | 00:20 |
| samueldmq | anteaya, I wonder if it would be useful if jenkins posted results as comments in the changes | 00:21 |
| samueldmq | anteaya, I think I saw that in a version of Jenkins | 00:21 |
| fungi | samueldmq: click the "toggle ci" button at the bottom of the review | 00:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/git-review: Provide an explanation on failed rebase https://review.openstack.org/186139 | 00:22 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann, fungi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wsme/+bug/1459469 | 00:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1459469 in WSME "wsme is not correctly requiring simplegeneric" [Undecided,New] | 00:22 |
| fungi | samueldmq: it does, we just hide them by default because for some projects (neutron, nova, cinder) with a proliferation of ci systems reporting on each change, the comments from actual humans were drowned out in the noise of bot-initiated comments | 00:22 |
| fungi | jlvillal: thanks. hopefully dhellmann can triage that to fix-committed and then switch it to fix-released next week | 00:23 |
| fungi | since it does look like the fix was committed for that sometime in the past 6 months | 00:24 |
| anteaya | samueldmq: case in point: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185832/ | 00:24 |
| samueldmq | fungi, oh great... currently looking the button :p | 00:24 |
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| samueldmq | anteaya, oh .. now I understand, several ci changes, thanks for let me learn by example :) | 00:25 |
| anteaya | sure | 00:25 |
| anteaya | you are asking good questions | 00:26 |
| anteaya | keep doing that | 00:26 |
| samueldmq | anteaya, :) | 00:26 |
| samueldmq | fungi, yeah I found the button, thanks that's exactly what I was looking for | 00:26 |
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| jogo | fungi: re the heat template example in apps.o.o | 00:34 |
| jogo | fungi: I disagree with the flow there | 00:35 |
| jogo | I go to apps.o.o and want to use a heat template on providerX. They don't have heat | 00:35 |
| jogo | So I run heat myself | 00:36 |
| jogo | providerX figures out a lot of people want heat and provide a hosted version of it | 00:36 |
| jogo | the key bit being all services outside the compute ring *should* be usable when deployed by a tenant | 00:36 |
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| fungi | jogo: fair point. i think that's a separate discussion. parhaps heat should be a containerized or image-based app in the catalog? | 00:38 |
| fungi | deploy heat from the catalog, then you can deploy killerappy from the catalog | 00:39 |
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| jogo | fungi: AFAIK heat can already be deployed by a tenant btw | 00:39 |
| * jogo doesn't want to overload catalog | 00:39 | |
| * jogo waves at morganfainberg | 00:39 | |
| morganfainberg | jogo: HI | 00:40 |
| morganfainberg | jogo: should i run scared? | 00:40 |
| * morganfainberg prepares to run scared. | 00:40 | |
| jogo | morganfainberg: two catalogs | 00:40 |
| jogo | keystone and apps.o.o | 00:40 |
| fungi | right, service catalog vs app catalog. we can pit keystone and murano devs against one another in a cage match | 00:40 |
| fungi | no holds barred | 00:40 |
| * jogo puts his money or keystone | 00:40 | |
| morganfainberg | jogo: we fight dirty | 00:41 |
| fungi | i know. i've seen your code | 00:41 |
| morganfainberg | fungi: ^_^ | 00:41 |
| jogo | fungi: I don't actually thing it is a completely separate discussion, this is all tied to the larger openstack UX vision | 00:41 |
| morganfainberg | i'm taking that as a compliment... and you can't convince me otherwise... | 00:41 |
| jogo | fungi: which sadly no one discusses | 00:41 |
| fungi | so anyway, conflated terminology aside, i agree that perhaps the various deployment frameworks can themselves be apps | 00:41 |
| morganfainberg | I'd almost say we don't call it a catalog -- the mobile phone folks dodged it by calling it an "appstore" | 00:42 |
| morganfainberg | but that is a personal "lets not overload namespaces worse than we already have" | 00:42 |
| fungi | in the "murano apps registry nee catalog" sense of the term anyway | 00:42 |
| morganfainberg | sure it's a catalog-like thing | 00:42 |
| fungi | almost but not entirely unlike a catalog | 00:43 |
| morganfainberg | sure | 00:43 |
| jogo | fungi: the whole NIH thing going on in OpenStack concerns me | 00:43 |
| jogo | fungi: especially about this app store thing | 00:43 |
| morganfainberg | at the very least can we call it an AppCatalog | 00:43 |
| morganfainberg | instead of "catalog" <no modifier> | 00:43 |
| morganfainberg | this is setting aside jogo's ^ valid point | 00:43 |
| jogo | morganfainberg: but they discussed making it a meta catalog (link to other app catalogs). so maybe appcatalogcatalog ^_^ | 00:44 |
| fungi | jogo: me too. we have incentivized ourselves into a position where it's easier to find developer interest by being a new openstack project than by contributing to existing (often non-openstack) projects | 00:44 |
| morganfainberg | jogo: it's catalogs all the way down | 00:44 |
| jogo | fungi: yup, this was my fear with the big tent in the first place | 00:44 |
| jogo | fungi: that it wasn't inclusive enough | 00:45 |
| anteaya | fungi jogo I too share this concern | 00:45 |
| * morganfainberg wants all the standards and other friendlies included. | 00:45 | |
| jogo | morganfainberg: where is the junk mail catalog? | 00:45 |
| anteaya | full | 00:46 |
| morganfainberg | jogo: in the recycle bin | 00:46 |
| morganfainberg | jogo: but i don't consider that one a friendly :P | 00:46 |
| morganfainberg | jogo: mostly because it kills trees. | 00:46 |
| fungi | gone thanks to 41pounds.org | 00:46 |
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| morganfainberg | fungi: sadly all the crap mail i get is the stuff the stuff in from the local "to resident" | 00:48 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: it sounds to me like mtreinish would like it removed from the tempest queue | 00:48 |
| morganfainberg | fungi: don't think 41pounds would stop that stuff | 00:48 |
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| fungi | morganfainberg: likely not, no | 00:49 |
| morganfainberg | fungi: i think i get 41 pounds of that stuff a week :P | 00:50 |
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| anteaya | so is the app catalog an ops inspired thing? | 01:00 |
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| fungi | anteaya: it's a murano thing. they've been building to this point for a couple years | 01:24 |
| fungi | anteaya: i'd call it a user-inspired thing | 01:24 |
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| openstack | bug 1459477 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "gate-horizon-dsvm-integration intermittently fails with 'selenium.common.exceptions.NoSuchElementException: Message: Unable to locate element: {"method":"css selector","selector":"div.modal-dialog"}'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459477 | 01:30 |
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| jogo | fungi: but it appears to be foundation sponsored | 01:34 |
| jogo | from the html <meta name="author" content="Mirantis on behalf of OpenStack Foundation" /> | 01:34 |
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| fungi | jogo: the apps.openstack.org site was a collaboration between some developers at the openstack foundation and some developers at mirantis apparently, yes. i hope we can get it redeployed under community management very soon | 01:37 |
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| fungi | the first step on the right path there is obviously discussing the work in public where others can contribute to the effort | 01:45 |
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| sigmavirus24 | Chris Aedo ran a session at the summit about apps.o.o and they were really trying to get someone from the crowd to be a core | 01:46 |
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| fungi | well, i meant discussing the deployment and management of the service on community-run infrastructure. the source code for the software itself is already in gerrit | 01:48 |
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| mordred | clarkb: ^^ we were already generating a clouds.yaml in our integration tests - we were just doing it a little poorly | 02:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: OH! no we weren't | 02:40 |
| mordred | that's a real bug | 02:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Create repo for oslo.service https://review.openstack.org/185324 | 04:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Sort PO files to avoid random reorder https://review.openstack.org/186026 | 04:46 |
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| fifieldt | hi infra | 05:26 |
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| fifieldt | I just had a new repo added and need to tweak the core group | 05:26 |
| fifieldt | ( https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/715,members ) | 05:26 |
| fifieldt | not sure how to proceed | 05:26 |
| fifieldt | any ideas>? | 05:26 |
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| mdrnstm | fifieldt: any of the admins can add you to the group, then you can add/remove as needed | 05:27 |
| fifieldt | brilliant | 05:27 |
| fifieldt | does anyone happen to be here right now? | 05:27 |
| fifieldt | or should I email infra ML? | 05:27 |
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| mdrnstm | fifieldt: you could email them or poke at them. not sure who all is here right now. it's been quiet for a bit | 05:27 |
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| fifieldt | I guess I'll just @ mention and see how we go :) | 05:28 |
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| fifieldt | sorry, @ mention is for slack | 05:28 |
| fifieldt | in IRC it;'s just the name :D | 05:28 |
| mdrnstm | fifieldt: thats how i usually go about it. | 05:28 |
| mdrnstm | i knew what ya meant :) | 05:28 |
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| fifieldt | fungi, clarkb, jeblair, etc - can you add me to https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/715,members so I can fix all the thigns? | 05:28 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: i think you question on 164908 got answered | 05:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/186268 | 06:01 |
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| nikeshm | hi | 06:04 |
| nikeshm | i want to skip some tests in tempest "tox -e all -- reg-expression" | 06:05 |
| nikeshm | i tried some reg-expression like " ^(?=.*volume)(?!.*tempest.thirdparty)(?!.*tempest.scenario).*" | 06:06 |
| nikeshm | but its giving -bash: !.*tempest.thirdparty: event not found | 06:06 |
| nikeshm | i am under /opt/stack/tempest | 06:06 |
| nikeshm | any idea | 06:07 |
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| mgedmin | add more quoting | 06:10 |
| mgedmin | especially a backslash in front of the ! | 06:11 |
| mgedmin | which is used for bash history expansion | 06:11 |
| mgedmin | (which is a useless feature now that we don't use paper-based teletypes anymore) | 06:11 |
| mgedmin | (you may want to disable it with 'set +H' in your ~/.bashrc) | 06:11 |
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| nikeshm | double quote was issue | 06:14 |
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| nikeshm | with single quote its running | 06:14 |
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| sirushti | infra folks, could one of you'll please re-approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182339/ | 06:26 |
| sirushti | also some reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178352/ would be great :) | 06:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Pijnenburg proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for OWASP Dependency-Check Plugin https://review.openstack.org/179604 | 06:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Pijnenburg proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support copyartifact build selector param https://review.openstack.org/133774 | 06:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Richard Pijnenburg proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace ci.o.o links with docs.o.o/infra https://review.openstack.org/183239 | 06:28 |
| BobBall | Is Hirofumi Ichihara anywhere around? | 06:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Leon proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cloning cue-dashboard https://review.openstack.org/186296 | 06:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/requirements: Remove blazar from projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/186299 | 07:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/186268 | 07:20 |
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| BobBall | top | 07:44 |
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| electrical | Morning all | 07:50 |
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| BobBall | Good morning electrical | 08:03 |
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| electrical | fabo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97108/4 is this an change you are still working on? ( I'm trying to revive old changes so we can move forward with them, either updating them or closing them ) thanks! | 08:07 |
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| fabo | electrical: yes, it is. I'm trying to find time to rebase on top of 1.2.0 | 08:08 |
| electrical | fabo: okay cool. thanks! could you leave a comment in there that you are still planning to work on it further? | 08:09 |
| fabo | sure | 08:09 |
| electrical | thanks! | 08:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | David TARDIVEL proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create new stackforge project python-watcherclient https://review.openstack.org/185006 | 08:29 |
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| nikeshm | DuncanT: hello | 08:32 |
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| electrical | Morning nikeshm | 08:33 |
| nikeshm | electrical: am in US now so night :) | 08:34 |
| nikeshm | electrical: morning | 08:34 |
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| nikeshm | electrical: good progress in CI now,only trouble with some tests http://paste.openstack.org/show/241149/ | 08:36 |
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| nikeshm | out of which one test ramy is also skipping and one test he is solving via neutron | 08:37 |
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| nikeshm | electrical: where place are you working now?is it morning for you? | 08:38 |
| nikeshm | s/where/which | 08:38 |
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| electrical | nikeshm: hehe. | 08:40 |
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| electrical | nikeshm: I'm in the UK | 08:40 |
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| nikeshm | electrical:i am from india,basically work in hyderabad | 08:43 |
| nikeshm | but now on business trip to US | 08:43 |
| nikeshm | did you come to summit in vancouver | 08:43 |
| electrical | nikeshm: ah i see. Never been to India. still on my todo list some day. | 08:43 |
| electrical | I didn't :-( | 08:43 |
| nikeshm | electrical is yur name or just irc name | 08:44 |
| electrical | Just my IRC name :-) | 08:44 |
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| nikeshm | i have to change mine to electronics | 08:45 |
| nikeshm | :) | 08:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/requirements: Bump zaqarclient https://review.openstack.org/186322 | 08:45 |
| electrical | hehe | 08:46 |
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| nikeshm | did yu know about these http://paste.openstack.org/show/241149/ tests | 08:48 |
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| electrical | nikeshm: sorry for delay. I know what he means yeah but im not into the tests at OpenStack i'm afraid. | 08:59 |
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| danpb | there is a hook in gerrit which adds comments to blueprints in launchpad when a change is submitted - can anyone tell me where the code for that lives in git ? | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Leave wiggle room for zake and kazoo fix releases https://review.openstack.org/186123 | 09:55 |
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| samueldmq | morning | 10:21 |
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| electrical | Could someone do a workflow +1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183048/ ? | 12:10 |
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| nikeshm | DuncanT: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186336/ | 12:25 |
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| nikeshm | log server link is not opening i configured it for next patches | 12:26 |
| nikeshm | http://115.119.152.41/dothill-logs/logs/$LOG_PATH/logs/ | 12:26 |
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| fungi | fifieldt: i've added you as the initial member of the ops-tags-team-core group in gerrit | 12:32 |
| fifieldt | thankyou and good morning | 12:32 |
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| electrical | fungi: good morning bud | 12:32 |
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| fungi | danpb: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/jeepyb/tree/jeepyb/cmd/update_blueprint.py | 12:42 |
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| nikeshm | 'http://115.119.152.41/dothill-logs/logs/36/186336/3/check/dsvm-tempest-full/a66e909/' | 12:48 |
| fungi | electrical: it's not truly morning to me until i have my coffee ;) | 12:48 |
| electrical | fungi: hahaha so true :-) | 12:48 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, sdague, anteaya : Could you review some cleanup changes, please? https://review.openstack.org/182034 https://review.openstack.org/181660 and https://review.openstack.org/181656 | 12:50 |
| * AJaeger sends fungi a coffee | 12:51 | |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add logstash publisher https://review.openstack.org/183048 | 12:51 |
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| * fungi needs to invent a machine which converts e-coffee radiation to coffee molecules | 12:52 | |
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| * AJaeger notices that lack of coffee seems not to really stop fungi ;) | 12:53 | |
| electrical | fungi: thanks for pushing the logstash publisher review :-) | 12:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable non-voting py34 check job for Heat https://review.openstack.org/182339 | 12:54 |
| fungi | AJaeger: yeah, i'm slowly working my way downstairs to the kitchen ;) | 12:54 |
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| mordred | fungi: it's hard to go downstairs | 13:02 |
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| fungi | yeah, it's one heck of a commute | 13:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Templatize zuul: Use python*-jobs https://review.openstack.org/182034 | 13:12 |
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| electrical | fungi: if you had coffee, could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185661/ as well? | 13:19 |
| electrical | fixes a bug / edge case which didn't work | 13:20 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: if you review this one, we could merge it and cut a new version for yaml2ical that would include your extra-settings and unblock that review | 13:48 |
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| electrical | zxiiro: morning. also started reviewing i saw? | 13:55 |
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| zxiiro | electrical: yeah I've been reviewing on and off. plan to do more | 14:00 |
| electrical | zxiiro: hehe okay. I reviewed about 20 - 30 changes today | 14:00 |
| zxiiro | electrical: unfortunately openstack isn't the only community i do code review on so have to split my time accordingly :) | 14:00 |
| electrical | hehe yeah indeed :-) | 14:01 |
| fungi | electrical: looking. i hadn't been reviewing jjb changes for a while because it grew its own sizable review team, but it seems like all but two of them may have dwindled in activity and one of those is now away for a bit | 14:01 |
| electrical | fungi: hehe that's okay :-) | 14:02 |
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| mordred | fungi: hrm. that's not pleasing | 14:02 |
| zxiiro | fungi: FWIW i've noticed my patches seem to take about 2-3 months before someone even looks at them initially | 14:03 |
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| zxiiro | I've contributed to numerous open source projects so i'm used to delay but a new contributor contributing for the first time may think their patches are unwanted. | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split iterate_timeout into its own file https://review.openstack.org/177615 | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add skeleton for an object interface https://review.openstack.org/175064 | 14:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add design for an object interface https://review.openstack.org/164506 | 14:05 |
| pabelanger | morning | 14:05 |
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| danpb | fungi: thanks for the git pointer | 14:06 |
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| electrical | zxiiro: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131404/ could use your review. its an existing patch from some one else i improved | 14:08 |
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| derekh | Hi there, could somebody take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183513/ please ? I thinks its good to go | 14:11 |
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| zxiiro | electrical: ah you're Richard :) I'll take a look shortly | 14:13 |
| fungi | zxiiro: yeah, i'm no fan of that situation either. i mean, i see my patches to various openstack projects sit for months and i get that it's a prioritization problem, but would really love for that not to be the case. better tools to make reviewing and testing easier, faster and above all more fun is one of our main goals | 14:13 |
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| electrical | zxiiro: hehe ;-) | 14:13 |
| electrical | thanks | 14:13 |
| zxiiro | FWIW I was talking to an ex-googler recently about this issue | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental python3 jobs for Sahara https://review.openstack.org/186366 | 14:14 |
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| zxiiro | and he told me internally at Google for their team, they were required to spend half a day doing code review for any projects within Google | 14:14 |
| electrical | fungi: can't we do something like 4 x +1 from community members eq a +2 from core reviewer? | 14:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Rely on defaults being present https://review.openstack.org/181653 | 14:14 |
| zxiiro | They litterally were not allowed to do work until they did that. interesting policy, might be too strict though in my opinion but it's good to get people familiar with different code bases | 14:15 |
| fungi | electrical: i wish we could, but unfortunately a lot of people use +1 to mean "i work at the same company with the person who proposed this change" | 14:15 |
| electrical | fungi: ah i see, hmm.. | 14:16 |
| electrical | give certain community members more power ? ;-) | 14:16 |
| fungi | well, that's what the jjb core review team is | 14:16 |
| fungi | we just need to revisit it, drop people who have stopped reviewing and add people who have been providing insightful reviews | 14:17 |
| electrical | fungi: ahh okay :-) | 14:17 |
| electrical | i would be up for it ;-) hehe :p | 14:17 |
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| fungi | it's not as bad in infra repo changes as some of the more political ones (particularly the openstack core services) have a lot of useless "+1 noise" on them | 14:18 |
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| zxiiro | i forget what project does thsi, but another funny one i heard was that they gave anyone who submitted a pull request committer rights and told them to submit their own code. utter chaos but they worked on the policy that people submitting code were likely going to fix stuff they break and the original maintainer had no time to code review hehe | 14:18 |
| fungi | we're much more interested in a -1 pointing out a bug which would have slipped through and broken something | 14:19 |
| electrical | fungi: yeah defo | 14:19 |
| fungi | than a +1 with no comment | 14:19 |
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| fungi | i'm actually not subscribed to jenkins-job-builder reviews since i normally leave those to its dedicated review team, but even so just for the repos to which i'm subscribed i have hundreds of backlog reviews to look through at any point in time | 14:20 |
| fungi | there just aren't enough hours in the day | 14:20 |
| zxiiro | indeed | 14:21 |
| electrical | common issue indeed. i find that out every day :p | 14:22 |
| zxiiro | this is precisely why i hate forking projects. you're only shrinking the potential committer / reviewer base when you do | 14:22 |
| zxiiro | you might think you have plenty of time to maintain a project now, but in a few months will you still have the time? | 14:22 |
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| fungi | agreed | 14:23 |
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| electrical | I try to do a hour a day for non work related coding / reviewing. works pretty good so far | 14:24 |
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| AJaeger | electrical: great, thanks! Much appreciated! | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup gerrit ACLs: remove unneccary "refs/heads/stable" https://review.openstack.org/181660 | 14:26 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I updated the patch and removed the file change your good review noticed ^ | 14:26 |
| electrical | AJaeger: np :-) | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for horizon integration test bug 1459477 https://review.openstack.org/186235 | 14:26 |
| openstack | bug 1459477 in OpenStack Dashboard (Horizon) "gate-horizon-dsvm-integration intermittently fails with 'selenium.common.exceptions.NoSuchElementException: Message: Unable to locate element: {"method":"css selector","selector":"div.modal-dialog"}'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459477 | 14:26 |
| fungi | AJaeger: awesome | 14:26 |
| zxiiro | electrical: I try but i'm overcommitted on lots of things. I volunteer to mentor students too which takes a significant effort in itself | 14:26 |
| electrical | zxiiro: ah yeah that does indeed. | 14:27 |
| fungi | yep. same here. have an outreachy intern starting in a few days. should be fun! | 14:27 |
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| electrical | zxiiro: thanks for the review and good points. will check | 14:28 |
| fungi | but i also volunteered at the summit to drive a lot of things (half of which i don't even recall off the top of my head what they were) so hopefully someone else takes them over before i remember ;) | 14:28 |
| AJaeger | but that still means, we might need your review of them, fungi ;) | 14:30 |
| fungi | yep :/ | 14:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Pijnenburg proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added slack support https://review.openstack.org/131404 | 14:31 |
| electrical | zxiiro: new patch set up. | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jan Klare proposed openstack-infra/project-config: add experimental job for integration testing with rake on chef cookbooks https://review.openstack.org/186379 | 14:32 |
| zxiiro | electrical: thanks | 14:32 |
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| zxiiro | electrical: wait do you need the double :: when it's on one line? | 14:33 |
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| zxiiro | i think you only need one if i recall | 14:33 |
| zxiiro | hang on let me run tox to confirm | 14:33 |
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| electrical | i left that part as is. tox runs fine with :: | 14:35 |
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| zxiiro | electrical: ah ok, i always forget the rules regarding the double : or single : | 14:35 |
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| fungi | electrical: waynr: on the yaml parser discussion for 185661, i wonder if something like zuul does with voluptuous would help at all in reverse to identify behavior changes? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/zuul/layoutvalidator.py or do we just need a large corpus of additional configurations we can test to see if the resulting xml differs? we've sort of relied on the jjb | 14:36 |
| fungi | configs in openstack-infra/project-config to that end so far | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split list filtering into its own file https://review.openstack.org/186409 | 14:36 |
| fungi | but our configs are probably poor at representing corner cases | 14:37 |
| mordred | Shrews, dguerri: ^^ if we merge that, it'll cause some merge issues for other things in flight | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Berrange proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb: Include project & branch when updating blueprint https://review.openstack.org/186412 | 14:38 |
| electrical | fungi: its extremely hard to make modifications to the yaml parsing and certain things make no sense. like the issue we had when a key doesn't exist in the global defaults and only in an other named defaults name space. | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 14:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split list filtering into its own file https://review.openstack.org/186409 | 14:41 |
| mordred | dguerri: ^^ thanks - nice catch | 14:41 |
| dguerri | :) | 14:41 |
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| dguerri | btw, don't worry about my changes. I need to rebase/tweak them anyway | 14:42 |
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| dguerri | mordred: ^ | 14:42 |
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| mordred | dguerri: osssum | 14:42 |
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| dguerri | and it was about time someone mustered up the courage to start splitting __init__ :D | 14:44 |
| fungi | dguerri: yeah, that monolithic __init__.py was... unsightly | 14:45 |
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| mordred | fungi: does this make sense to you: http://logs.openstack.org/50/186250/1/check/gate-shade-pep8/73dc7da/console.html ? | 14:47 |
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| mordred | fungi: it's the only one that fails that way | 14:47 |
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| mordred | fungi: and i can't reproduce it locally | 14:48 |
| mordred | fungi: makes me worry we have a stuck mirror or something else weird | 14:48 |
| fungi | mordred: i think this was due to a bug in flake8 calling into pkg_resources, which should be fixed in latest flake8 release | 14:48 |
| mordred | fungi: I have the same flake8 locally as in that test thing | 14:49 |
| fungi | looks like that job installed flake8==2.0 | 14:50 |
| fungi | looking for context for my vague recollection now | 14:50 |
| mordred | oh - wait - I'm on the wrong branch locally | 14:50 |
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| fungi | ahh, hacking 0.8.1 is supposed to pull in new enough flake8 to avoid that | 14:52 |
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| fungi | looks like that job has 0.7.2 installed | 14:52 |
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| mordred | yah | 14:53 |
| fungi | bug 1456376 | 14:53 |
| openstack | bug 1456376 in hacking "conflicting deps on pbr breaking pep8 gate jobs" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456376 - Assigned to Joe Gordon (jogo) | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Update pbr version pins https://review.openstack.org/186250 | 14:54 |
| mordred | that one should work I think | 14:54 |
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| fungi | mordred: not gonna work. you specify a minimum hacking version which has not yet been released | 14:56 |
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| fungi | oh, wait | 14:57 |
| mordred | fungi: that's the version from g-r | 14:57 |
| fungi | there is a 0.19... wth? | 14:57 |
| fungi | er, 0.10 | 14:57 |
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| fungi | pypi is f'ing with me | 14:58 |
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| fungi | yeah, those versions are in the simple index, but not the latest version claimed in the pypi webui... strange things are afoot on pypi.python.org | 14:59 |
| fungi | oh, i see | 14:59 |
| fungi | 0.9.6 was the most recent tag pushed, just for a stable branch | 14:59 |
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| fungi | so that was the latest version we uploaded, just not the highest version we uploaded | 15:00 |
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| mordred | ugh | 15:00 |
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| fungi | we probably need to do something when we call twine for tags which are only on stable branches? | 15:00 |
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| mordred | probably. I know there is a thing in the UI that exposes something | 15:01 |
| mordred | i bet dstufft knows | 15:01 |
| * dstufft reads | 15:02 | |
| fungi | anyway, that shade change lgtm | 15:02 |
| dstufft | heh | 15:02 |
| dstufft | PyPI's UI is stupid | 15:02 |
| dstufft | You probably have autohide turned on | 15:03 |
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| dstufft | which means that all releases but the last one uploaded are hidden from the UI | 15:03 |
| fungi | we do, because otherwise the list of releases would be huge for a lot of our projects | 15:03 |
| dstufft | (most people have autohide turned on, it's default to on, and if you don't have it on you get that stupid list of releases) | 15:03 |
| dstufft | so with autohide on, you don't get the latest (in version sorting sense) release, you get whatever version you uploaded last | 15:03 |
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| dstufft | you can control it by going in and hiding/unhiding to get the one you want to show up | 15:04 |
| dstufft | Warehouse fixes it | 15:04 |
| fungi | is there a way to signal to pypi what the latest is when or after we upload? | 15:04 |
| dstufft | you log in and hide the one you don't want to show up and unhide the one you do | 15:04 |
| dstufft | in Warehouse there is no concept of hidden releases | 15:04 |
| dstufft | and it just shows the latest one | 15:04 |
| dstufft | latest in terms of version sorting | 15:05 |
| fungi | ahh, cool. you make it sound like there's no api to toggle hide/unhide for releases | 15:05 |
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| dstufft | well "api" is a hard word to use for PyPI | 15:06 |
| fungi | bwahahaha | 15:06 |
| dstufft | there's a HTML form you can submit | 15:06 |
| dstufft | it may or may not require CSRF | 15:06 |
| fungi | sounds like we could probably reverse-engineer it at least | 15:06 |
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| dstufft | that's basically what setup.py upload // twine upload is | 15:06 |
| dstufft | it's a HTML form that got reverse engineered | 15:06 |
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| dstufft | and now it's an API | 15:06 |
| dstufft | D: | 15:06 |
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| fungi | instant api, just add developer pain | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add port resource methods https://review.openstack.org/179968 | 15:09 |
| dstufft | Warehouse is my primary focus on effort right now (well besides the fact that like 12 different threads of discussion are happening the last week or two so I've been spenidng more time in email and IRC than software :(), hopefully it won't be much longer before we can start making plans to replace pypi legacy with warehouse | 15:09 |
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| fungi | looking forward to that day | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add inventory command to shade https://review.openstack.org/175891 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split list filtering into its own file https://review.openstack.org/186409 | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: keystoneclient non-voting bandit job https://review.openstack.org/185482 | 15:15 |
| fungi | krotscheck: i don't know pat, but i would love to buy him/her a beer in which to drown his/her javascript sorrows | 15:16 |
| krotscheck | fungi: That's super easy. Next time you go out for a beer, buy yourself one. | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: keystoneclient non-voting bandit job https://review.openstack.org/185482 | 15:17 |
| fungi | indeed! | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Remove blazar from projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/186299 | 15:19 |
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| mordred | dstufft: pypi is replicating to warehouse currently, right? | 15:20 |
| fungi | looks like jerryz's cryptic comment from scrollback (04:34 utc) may be related to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064980.html | 15:20 |
| mordred | dstufft: so part of the cutover can be to have pip start fetching and putting from warehouse instead of pypi by default, yeah? | 15:20 |
| dstufft | mordred: welllll, PyPI and Warehouse are running off the same PostgreSQL database right now, the files are broken because we killed gluster and moved to S3 and warehouse.python.org is just a sort of beta preview thing and warehouse needs a better deployment story before I deploy the S3 working branch | 15:21 |
| fungi | seems we do have nodepool images going ready though, so i don't think we're encountering that upstream | 15:22 |
| dstufft | warehouse.python.org is only a temporary domain though (well it'll exist forever probably, and redirect to pypi.python.org once we do the cut over), so we could switch pip to start pulling from warehouse, and then when we switch it'll just be following a redirect | 15:22 |
| dstufft | but we could just load balance the /simple/ API between PyPI legacy and Warehouse in Fastly too | 15:22 |
| mordred | oh. fancy | 15:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add support to subunit2sql for storing attachments https://review.openstack.org/186152 | 15:27 |
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| mordred | clarkb: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186079 - shouldn't we re-raise the exception after we log it? | 15:34 |
| clarkb | mordred probably | 15:35 |
| clarkb | feel free to update, having super slow start this morning | 15:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grenade jobs for Heat https://review.openstack.org/178352 | 15:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: k | 15:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Debug dying task managers https://review.openstack.org/186079 | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Consume os-client-config directly https://review.openstack.org/185972 | 15:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP: Create zuul-packaging experimental job https://review.openstack.org/186441 | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP: Create zuul-packaging experimental job https://review.openstack.org/186441 | 15:49 |
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| Kiall | Q: nodepool slaves, do you guys keep the kernel version up to date? | 15:54 |
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| fungi | Kiall: we install whatever updates are provided by the distro | 15:54 |
| fungi | and then boot from the result | 15:55 |
| fungi | so if that includes patched kernels, then that's what we're booting | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add graph command to graph daily test count over time https://review.openstack.org/186442 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grenade jobs for Heat https://review.openstack.org/178352 | 15:55 |
| Kiall | fungi: We're hitting a kernel bug during gate runs 3.16.0-36 is the latest in trusty, and the slave it just ran on is 3.13.something | 15:56 |
| fungi | Kiall: have a link to the log? | 15:56 |
| Kiall | (I have no clue if the issue is fixed in newer kernels, still tracking) | 15:56 |
| Kiall | http://logs.openstack.org/64/186164/2/check/gate-designate-dsvm-bind9/be385dc/logs/devstack-gate-setup-host.txt.gz | 15:56 |
| Kiall | details of the issue we're hitting are.. light.. https://deepthought.isc.org/article/AA-01213/0/What-causes-refresh%3A-failure-trying-master-...%3A-operation-canceled-error-messages.html | 15:56 |
| clarkb | uh trusty is 3.13 iirc | 15:56 |
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| Kiall | I see a 3.16 on packages.ubuntu.com - http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/linux-image-3.16.0-36-generic | 15:57 |
| clarkb | yup 3.16 is the hardware enablement | 15:57 |
| clarkb | we dont do that | 15:57 |
| Kiall | Ah, ok | 15:57 |
| clarkb | its optional and not default iirc | 15:57 |
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| clarkb | basically there to boot those shiny new x1c laptops | 15:58 |
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| fungi | right, we install anything from the release, security and stable updates | 15:59 |
| Kiall | clarkb: k - don't suppose you're planning any utopic / vivid slaves? ISC is light on details about what kernels are afffected etc :/ | 15:59 |
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| fungi | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-image-generic | 16:00 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: oh fun, looks like pip freeze is killing my unit test jobs: http://logs.openstack.org/51/186151/2/check/gate-subunit2sql-python27/11b20a6/console.html | 16:00 |
| clarkb | Kiall not with 9 months of support | 16:00 |
| Kiall | I figured as much! Was worth asking anyway ;) | 16:00 |
| mtreinish | fungi: ^^^ I think I remember seeing a note about merging a change there yesterday | 16:00 |
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| mtreinish | to run-tox that is | 16:01 |
| fungi | mtreinish: yep, lemme look and then roll back images | 16:01 |
| pabelanger | mtreinish, fungi I am just looking at that too | 16:01 |
| AJaeger | clarkb, fungi: we have strange failures in gate-project-config-jenkins-project: | 16:01 |
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| AJaeger | "/usr/local/jenkins/slave_scripts/run-tox.sh: line 28: /pip: No such file or directory" | 16:01 |
| pabelanger | ya | 16:01 |
| fungi | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/161414 was the update | 16:01 |
| pabelanger | variable is getting setup properly | 16:01 |
| pabelanger | is *not* | 16:02 |
| AJaeger | See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185482/ or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181660/ | 16:02 |
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| fungi | also "/subunit-1to2: No such file or directory" | 16:03 |
| fungi | and "/python: No such file or directory" | 16:03 |
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| fungi | totally not running things from the tox venv | 16:03 |
| mtreinish | fungi: yeah looks like bin_path isn't being set correctly | 16:03 |
| fungi | deleting new images now | 16:03 |
| pabelanger | bin_path is the issue | 16:03 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: L114 in the review you pointed me to | 16:03 |
| AJaeger | yeah ;( | 16:03 |
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| fungi | yep | 16:04 |
| mordred | we could just get rid of dirs and install everyhting directly into / | 16:04 |
| mestery | Howdy infra folks! Quick question: If I have some logs generated by an external entity which I would like devstack-gate to collect, what is the best way to do this? Is there something pluggable which I could hook into for this? Thanks in advance! | 16:04 |
| clarkb | Kiall we may want to consider enabling the newer kernels if this is a major issue | 16:04 |
| AJaeger | mtreinish: Is the local wrong? | 16:04 |
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| clarkb | mesterh run a script after d-g to do it | 16:04 |
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| mordred | mestery: hey! I'm not sure I fully undersatnd what you mean by external entity | 16:04 |
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| clarkb | er mestery ^ | 16:04 |
| pabelanger | AJaeger, mtreinish: yes, I think that is the issue, test patch locally | 16:05 |
| clarkb | (you dont need a hook to do stuff after d-g runs) | 16:05 |
| mestery | morgan: So, in this case, it's OpenDaylight, and it generates it's own logfile, which devstack-gate obviously isn't collecting now. Any ideas on the best way to hook this in? | 16:05 |
| mestery | clarkb: ^^^ | 16:05 |
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| mtreinish | AJaeger: yeah I think so, because we're trying to use it outside of the local scope | 16:05 |
| clarkb | just run a script after d-g to grab and process the file | 16:05 |
| AJaeger | pabelanger: bash manual says that local is only allowed in a function. Will you remove those two occurences of local? | 16:05 |
| mestery | clarkb: So add a post-hook script? | 16:06 |
| clarkb | no | 16:06 |
| fungi | gah! "os_client_config.exceptions.OpenStackConfigException: Named cloud hpcloud requested that was not found." | 16:06 |
| clarkb | ./devstack-gate.sh && get-log.sh | 16:06 |
| fungi | so now we have a nodepool bug preventing me from deleting broken images | 16:06 |
| clarkb | er dont use && because that will not run on failed jobs | 16:06 |
| clarkb | but thats the general idra | 16:06 |
| mestery | clarkb: Excellent! That's even easier! I'll have a crack at it, thanks! | 16:07 |
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| mordred | fungi: aroo? | 16:07 |
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| fungi | mordred: any tips on what's wrong with our config on nodepool.o.o? | 16:07 |
| mordred | fungi: why are we requseting a named cloud? | 16:07 |
| * mordred looks | 16:07 | |
| clarkb | mestery alternatively have the logs write where devstack puts its logs | 16:07 |
| fungi | mordred: that's what i get when i try to nodepool image-delete anything | 16:08 |
| clarkb | mestery but that seems to be less desireable when doing this | 16:08 |
| mestery | clarkb: That's the funny thing, they should be. Will d-g collect all logs in the directory? | 16:08 |
| mordred | fungi: can you give me the command you ran so I can? | 16:08 |
| clarkb | mestery yes it should | 16:08 |
| mestery | I had issues with that approach clarkb, thus the script approach may work better. | 16:08 |
| mestery | clarkb: OK, I'll take a peek at that as well. | 16:08 |
| mestery | Thanks again clarkb! | 16:08 |
| fungi | mordred: sudo nodepool image-delete 26887 | 16:08 |
| pabelanger | AJaeger, Yup, that is the fix, worked locally | 16:08 |
| mordred | thanks | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove local scope in favor of global variables https://review.openstack.org/186449 | 16:09 |
| clarkb | fungi use -H -u nodepool | 16:09 |
| clarkb | the hpcloud config is in nodepools homedir | 16:09 |
| fungi | gah, thanks clarkb | 16:09 |
| mordred | fungi: I just did that | 16:09 |
| mordred | and it worked | 16:09 |
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| pabelanger | fungi, AJaeger, mtreinish: ^ worked for me | 16:10 |
| Kiall | clarkb: sorry, was AFK a few mins. It seems to hit maybe 10% of Designate+DSVM+BIND9 runs, which is a low enough # of runs we're generally fine rechecking.. | 16:10 |
| fungi | clarkb: mordred: yep, thanks. works now | 16:10 |
| fungi | previously hadn't needed to run as nodepool when deleting images | 16:10 |
| fungi | i should just get in the habit of always running the nodepool cli as nodepool for anything ever | 16:11 |
| Kiall | I would be very curious if upping to 3.16 solves it though, if that's somehow possible without a whole new nodepool type, e.g. rebooting mid test run (unlikely!), then I'd give it a go ;) | 16:11 |
| AJaeger | thanks, pabelanger | 16:11 |
| pabelanger | AJaeger, np | 16:11 |
| mordred | we could also move that config to /etc/openstack/clouds.yaml and make it only readable by nodepool (and root/sudo obvs) | 16:11 |
| mordred | which would solve that | 16:11 |
| fungi | Kiall: yeah, when we've done that for experimental new-kernel jobs in the past it's involved adding a new node type specifically for those jobs | 16:12 |
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| electrical | fungi: I'm not sure if there are plans to do a release for JJB and python-jenkins but there are some fixes that should go in before doing releases. | 16:13 |
| Kiall | fungi: that's probably roo much work to bother right now! There are some suggested workarounds, like unloading the netfilter kernel module, but I have no idea how that will affect the rest of the DSVM runs ;) | 16:13 |
| clarkb | I was thinking of just bumping the kernel on our normal trusty nodes but that may introduce new libvirt/qemu/ovs fun | 16:13 |
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| Kiall | projects in the DSVM run* e.g. nova/neutron | 16:14 |
| clarkb | and containers dont help | 16:14 |
| clarkb | (they dont fix everything) | 16:14 |
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| Kiall | clarkb: <snark>right containers are crap, docker fixes everything though. </snark> | 16:14 |
| Kiall | ;) | 16:14 |
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| electrical | Docker is super easy for integration testing. Atleast for my puppet modules :-) | 16:15 |
| Kiall | Anyway - I'll see if we can workaround it :) | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use profile in clouds.yaml instead of cloud https://review.openstack.org/186459 | 16:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/185972 is passing tests now | 16:15 |
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| fungi | Kiall: as long as you don't need to run tests for nova floating ips, security groups, whatnot it's probably fine. you can always test that idea with a do-not-merge change proposed to devstack or something | 16:18 |
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| fungi | or a wip change to your integration testing plugin for devstack assuming you have one | 16:18 |
| Kiall | that's my plan ;) | 16:18 |
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| samueldmq | hi, could someone approve 'Experimental Devstack job for Identity v3 API only' | 16:22 |
| samueldmq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179661/ | 16:22 |
| prometheanfire | what do I need to do to add a gentoo image for testing openstack on (I assume non-blocking tests at first) | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Debug dying task managers https://review.openstack.org/186079 | 16:24 |
| fungi | prometheanfire: just to set expectations appropriately, chances are that once you work through getting diskimage-builder properly generating bootable gentoo workers under nodepool and stick around indefinitely (along with other gentoo devs) to support them, tests running on that platform will remain non-voting on most openstack projects indefinitely unless you can convince the tc to pass a resolution | 16:25 |
| fungi | declaring it as a primary development target | 16:25 |
| prometheanfire | right, that's what I assumed (non-voting) | 16:26 |
| docaedo | Hi - I want to get the apps.openstack.org site moved to openstack infra (where it belongs :) ) - not sure where to start though - would this ultimately be it's own set of vms, or would it just be a virutal server on the existing servers hosting openstack.org content? | 16:27 |
| docaedo | s/want to get/want to work with you guys on/ | 16:27 |
| fungi | prometheanfire: so basically, set yourself up a local nodepoold instance, learn how to configure it to build gentoo images via diskimagebuilder and to upload them into and boot them successfully in an openstack cloud, then propose changes to our configuration to add the same in our infrastructure | 16:27 |
| prometheanfire | I'm already building images via catalyst | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Consume os-client-config directly https://review.openstack.org/185972 | 16:28 |
| fungi | prometheanfire: cool. is there a diskimage-builder element for gentoo which uses that? | 16:28 |
| fungi | docaedo: depends entirely on the needs of the application's requirements, but i expect we'll puppet it onto a separate virtual machine | 16:29 |
| mordred | clarkb, fungi, jeblair: I just updated that so that we weren't monkeypatching non-public members of os-client-config (turns out we already have a flag in occ to handle skipping the thing the fake was trying to skip) | 16:29 |
| zaro | morning | 16:29 |
| prometheanfire | that's how we generate our install media | 16:29 |
| prometheanfire | (and now qemu images as well) | 16:29 |
| docaedo | fungi: thanks, needs are absolutely minimal right now, just has to server html, javascript and yaml | 16:29 |
| prometheanfire | I don't know about distimage-builder | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Consume os-client-config directly https://review.openstack.org/185972 | 16:30 |
| mordred | silly pep8 | 16:30 |
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| prometheanfire | fungi: this is my (VERY) dirty build | 16:30 |
| prometheanfire | https://github.com/prometheanfire/gentoo-cloud-prep | 16:30 |
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| fungi | prometheanfire: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/diskimage-builder is probably a good place to start learning then | 16:30 |
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| prometheanfire | if that just calls out to a script that expects a qemu image as a result then this will be easy | 16:31 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: it does not | 16:31 |
| fungi | prometheanfire: it builds in a chroot | 16:31 |
| fungi | prometheanfire: in our case on an ubuntu 14.04 lts virtual machine | 16:31 |
| prometheanfire | the image generation can be on any OS | 16:32 |
| mordred | the largest amount of work involved in adding a new base distro is in making a root.d script that knows how to create/populate a base chroot with the contents that are needed by that distro | 16:32 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi: i have an appointment this morning; i'll be back this afternoon at the latest | 16:32 |
| mordred | in gentoo's case, I believe that would be "unpacking a stage3 tarball" yeah? | 16:32 |
| prometheanfire | mordred: that's easy then | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | that and some config stuff | 16:33 |
| fungi | docaedo: so i think we should just need a puppet module to start. i'll go ahead and propose the change to create a git repo in our code review system for a puppet-apps-site where we can start landing the rules for installing apache, pulling in whatever javascript libs you're using and copying the static content, credentials, whatever into the right locations | 16:33 |
| fungi | jeblair: thanks for the heads up | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | installing a couple of packages, etc | 16:33 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: this is the element that does that work for the debootstrap-based distros: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/diskimage-builder/tree/elements/debootstrap | 16:33 |
| prometheanfire | should not take much | 16:33 |
| mordred | might be a good place to look for first steps | 16:34 |
| prometheanfire | ya, used debootstrap before | 16:34 |
| mordred | cool | 16:34 |
| prometheanfire | think we might use it in our infra stuff already | 16:34 |
| mordred | so reading through that should make an amount of sense then | 16:34 |
| mordred | and replacing the call to debootstrap with the gentoo equiv and working outward from there should get you some ways on down the road | 16:34 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: you may want to also talk to folks in teh #tripleo channel - they're the ones who are core on diskimage-builder and may also have some pointers as to what adding gentoo support would want to look like | 16:35 |
| mordred | and are helpful resources for when the questinos get more complex :) | 16:35 |
| sdake | anyone have an idea who maintains bashate (irc channel?) | 16:35 |
| prometheanfire | :P | 16:35 |
| prometheanfire | generating a gentoo image is easy at least | 16:36 |
| docaedo | fungi: thanks | 16:36 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: it's possible we might also want to add gentoo awareness to glean http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/glean | 16:36 |
| sdake | i thought that was formed out of devstack | 16:36 |
| fungi | docaedo: just so you can see a comparable example, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-planet/tree/ is a simple web app we deploy at planet.openstack.org | 16:36 |
| clarkb | and bindep and our puppet slave manifests | 16:36 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: as well as the simple-init element in diskimage-builder (simple-init may already cover the necessary bases, but since I haven't tried it, I don't know) | 16:36 |
| clarkb | it is unfortunately a decent amount of work because distros are all so different | 16:36 |
| docaedo | fungi: ah perfect, I was just typing "do you have an example you could point me at?", much appreciated | 16:37 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 16:37 |
| fungi | clarkb: it's the differences which make them different ;) | 16:37 |
| mordred | fungi: that is true | 16:37 |
| prometheanfire | mordred: one step at a time | 16:37 |
| mordred | yup | 16:37 |
| prometheanfire | I'll work on image-builder first | 16:37 |
| * fungi is a master of the art of tautology | 16:37 | |
| mordred | fungi: people that are masters of that art generally are | 16:38 |
| prometheanfire | I think gentoo images are easier to generate then other OS's since the stage3 tarball is 90% of the work | 16:38 |
| fungi | yeah, that seems likely. much more bsdesque | 16:39 |
| prometheanfire | that's the inspiration :P | 16:39 |
| mordred | yah - that will make it pretty simple to get started on | 16:39 |
| mordred | I think most of the dib work is going to go in to adding gentoo support for any abstractions that are there - that said, all the abstraction _points_ are there, since it already handles redhats, debian and ubuntu | 16:40 |
| fungi | it's almost like diskimage-builder was designed for making gentoo images (untars a root tarball into a chroot) | 16:40 |
| zaro | electrical: i try to cut new jjb release about every 3 months. are you in need of a new release? | 16:40 |
| prometheanfire | fungi: :P | 16:40 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: greghaynes can help with this - but you probably want to make an emerge element similar to the dpkg element so that the package-install infrastructure will work properly | 16:41 |
| prometheanfire | I'm sure we will | 16:41 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: but that starts to get into the black magics | 16:41 |
| mordred | that greghaynes knows | 16:41 |
| prometheanfire | would be nice if we could just provide a script that generates the images, but meh I guess | 16:41 |
| zaro | electrical: will try to cut a new python-jenkins release today for those utf8 fixes. | 16:42 |
| clarkb | its not that simple though because you need vhd and qcow2 support and reusable composable bits to run puppet everywhere | 16:42 |
| * prometheanfire is trying to get support for gento into osad | 16:42 | |
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| electrical | zaro: i would love to get the different fixes in and the logstash publisher. That gives me a bit more meat to slap around for bringing it in at work. | 16:42 |
| clarkb | you basically end up with dib | 16:42 |
| prometheanfire | also, generating 'official' openstack images | 16:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/python-jenkins: Ensure request data is in the correct format https://review.openstack.org/184119 | 16:42 |
| ryanpetrello | mordred, clarkb, fungi: you all aware of some sort of ongoing connectivity issue on HP Cloud tests (in the last hour or so)? | 16:43 |
| * prometheanfire is part of gentoo's infra | 16:43 | |
| zaro | electrical: can you not use from master? | 16:43 |
| ryanpetrello | noticed a bunch of failures in some pecan tests just now *after* the tests passed e.g., `sudo: unable to resolve host bare-trusty-1432822468` | 16:43 |
| ryanpetrello | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186156/1 | 16:43 |
| clarkb | unable to resolve host is just a warning | 16:43 |
| electrical | zaro: I moet likely can yeah :) | 16:43 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: yah. turns out "just use images built by distros in the way they choose to build them" winds up not being as usable as one might hope | 16:44 |
| ryanpetrello | clarkb: you're right | 16:44 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: otoh - we've _definitely_ learned all of the things that are different between openstack clouds that you have to account for :) | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | mordred: I can see why that | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | mordred: I can see why that'd suck | 16:44 |
| prometheanfire | not complaining | 16:44 |
| mordred | :) | 16:44 |
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| prometheanfire | we'll likely either use image-builder for it or catalyst | 16:45 |
| prometheanfire | since it needs to run on our infra | 16:45 |
| ryanpetrello | clarkb: look like it's 2015-05-28 15:33:34.311 | 16:45 |
| prometheanfire | not that we don't trust you | 16:45 |
| prometheanfire | but we don't trust anyone | 16:45 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: it's the right choice | 16:45 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: we don't either | 16:45 |
| prometheanfire | :) | 16:45 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: and ultimately - we build images here to meet our infra needs - those may be (probably are) different than making general images for other humans | 16:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add port resource methods https://review.openstack.org/179968 | 16:46 |
| mordred | for instance, we don't use cloud-init, because reasons, but your users probably would want you to include it in images you make for them | 16:46 |
| prometheanfire | ya, we would need that | 16:47 |
| * prometheanfire actually packages cloud-init already | 16:47 | |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add repo for puppet-apps_site module https://review.openstack.org/186479 | 16:47 |
| fungi | docaedo: ^ | 16:47 |
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| fungi | that's step 1 | 16:47 |
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| mordred | prometheanfire: so, glean and the simple-init element I mentioned above are what we use instead - if you package cloud-init for gentoo, you may want to consider packaging glean too - for the folks who want ultra-light-weight | 16:48 |
| docaedo | fungi: thanks, got it | 16:48 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 16:48 |
| mordred | prometheanfire: it's basically cloud-init except with almost none of the features :) | 16:48 |
| prometheanfire | I package all of openstack for gentoo, so one more thing isn't an issue | 16:48 |
| prometheanfire | mordred: so it's better? | 16:48 |
| prometheanfire | gotit | 16:48 |
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| prometheanfire | if I get a bug for packaging glean I' | 16:49 |
| prometheanfire | if I get a bug for packaging glean I'll do it, but otherwise, meh :P | 16:49 |
| mordred | :) | 16:49 |
| prometheanfire | packaging python apps is stupid simple for us | 16:49 |
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| fungi | it's like cloud-init when all you want is to figure out your network configuration at boot and your provider doesn't use dhcp for reasons nobody quite knows | 16:50 |
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| prometheanfire | config-drive | 16:50 |
| prometheanfire | done | 16:50 |
| prometheanfire | fixed that for you | 16:50 |
| fungi | yep, config-drive and/or metadata service | 16:51 |
| prometheanfire | I don't actually like metadata service, to much work for just shipping configs | 16:51 |
| SpamapS | config-drive isn't exactly "free" | 16:52 |
| prometheanfire | maybe not, but it's an easier standard imo | 16:52 |
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| clarkb | it also doesnt configure anything | 16:52 |
| SpamapS | just different, I think they're equally o_O | 16:52 |
| zxiiro | prometheanfire: hey I use gentoo, I've been wondering for awhile where the gentoo-infra guys hang out | 16:53 |
| SpamapS | I'm constantly confused why we don't just pick a DHCP option to be "uniquifying URL" and dispense with Amazon's nonsense metadata service. | 16:53 |
| clarkb | or dns srv records | 16:54 |
| prometheanfire | SpamapS: not a bad idea, where's a spec for that :P | 16:54 |
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| prometheanfire | zxiiro: #gentoo-infra | 16:54 |
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| clarkb | (more reason to require designate) | 16:54 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: OH, I've not heard that bikesh...err.. idea. How does it differ from my bikeshe.. err.. idea? ;) | 16:54 |
| prometheanfire | zxiiro: it's a private channel though | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul: Add an acceptance test with beaker for puppet-zuul https://review.openstack.org/180214 | 16:54 |
| zxiiro | prometheanfire: mainly wanted to ask someone why Gentoo repos aren't on Gerrit or GitHub yet. Please make it easier for me to contribute :) | 16:54 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS its not a hack on a knowm protocol | 16:55 |
| clarkb | it is instead using distributed database properly for its intended prupose | 16:55 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: would you look up a SRV for $HOSTNAME ? | 16:55 |
| prometheanfire | zxiiro: https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo-portage-rsync-mirror | 16:55 |
| prometheanfire | zxiiro: we have it | 16:55 |
| prometheanfire | we are working to switch entirely to git soon | 16:55 |
| clarkb | SpamapS ya for a known name eg metadata.openstack | 16:55 |
| SpamapS | err | 16:55 |
| SpamapS | that won't solve it | 16:56 |
| kashyap | Hi folks, so I was pointed to a mailing list thread that Storyboard is EOLed. With the note that "The discussion of whether to continue working on StoryBoard, and what to replace it with, had similarly been halted, with me being told explicitly that a decision would be made in Vancouver." | 16:56 |
| zxiiro | prometheanfire: not for all projects and not all projects accept github contributions. For example the java guys still require me to attach patches to bugzilla | 16:56 |
| clarkb | that points you at the place to look | 16:56 |
| SpamapS | The reason the 169 crap works, and config drive works, is it keeps the resolution close to the VM | 16:56 |
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| prometheanfire | zxiiro: that'll be project by project | 16:56 |
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| clarkb | I am not sure how that doesnt work. Microsoft actually does this for AD iirc | 16:56 |
| zxiiro | prometheanfire: it's my biggest pet peeve right now to contributing to my favourite distro haha | 16:56 |
| SpamapS | If you just send people off to metadata.openstack, then you have to make sure there is an observer along the way to tag that request uniquely. | 16:56 |
| kashyap | So, has there been such a decisions I didn't delve too deeply into launchapd bug management via CLI, so now I can continue on that effort I guess. | 16:56 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS wat | 16:57 |
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| clarkb | you are just pointing at the data source with a known prenegotiated pointer | 16:57 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: at some point the VM has to present your infrastructure with something unique, yes? | 16:57 |
| mordred | kashyap: hi! I'm not sure I'm following the question? | 16:57 |
| clarkb | so VM says hey pointer where is my data, then goes to get data | 16:57 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS we call that an IP address | 16:58 |
| mordred | or a mac | 16:58 |
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| kashyap | mordred: Please allow me to rephrase. English as a fourth language speaker here. :-) | 16:58 |
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| mordred | kashyap: totally! no judgement - I just want to make sure I give you a good answer | 16:58 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: strong ARP controls is a good idea, but it counts as a required observer along the way. | 16:58 |
| kashyap | mordred: I mean, was there any discussion as to will there be a new effort? Reading this - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064533.html | 16:59 |
| kashyap | mordred: New effort to replace StoryBoard, i.e | 16:59 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: also for tenant isolated networks that requires a SRV record for every tenant isolated network. | 16:59 |
| mordred | kashyap: yah. so - currently we're working on looking at Maniphest from Phabricator | 16:59 |
| clarkb | SpamapS no it doesnt, its just a pointer | 16:59 |
| clarkb | SpamapS it can point arbitrarily | 16:59 |
| mordred | clarkb: not if the vm has no access to the broader network | 17:00 |
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| kashyap | My only interest being - I was hoping a less sucky way to manage bugs I care about via CLI/proper scripts. I held off so far, so now I can begin mucking around with lp-tools I guess. | 17:00 |
| clarkb | anycast is one alternative | 17:00 |
| clarkb | mordred even then see ^ | 17:00 |
| * kashyap looks up Maniphest. mordred - Thanks! | 17:00 | |
| mordred | kashyap: we will almost definitely be moving away from launchpad | 17:00 |
| SpamapS | so your tenant isolated networks need a route to the single endpoint, which is problematic (but this comes up a lot so it's likely going to be a thing) | 17:00 |
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| mordred | kashyap: it has _some_ command line support, but making it better would be fantastic | 17:01 |
| kashyap | mordred: _That's_ good to hear! | 17:01 |
| kashyap | "it" = LP? | 17:01 |
| mordred | kashyap: maniphest | 17:01 |
| mordred | kashyap: or phabricator in general | 17:01 |
| clarkb | SpamapS abd dhcp hacks dont change that | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | but my point is dns was designed for this, so should he used | 17:01 |
| clarkb | rather than hacking dhcp | 17:02 |
| mordred | OR do neither | 17:02 |
| mordred | use DHCP to get an ip address | 17:02 |
| clarkb | yes or just use dhccp properly | 17:02 |
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| kragniz | mordred: isn't the cli written in php? | 17:02 |
| fungi | clarkb: well... so the bootstrapping problem for srv records is that you first need some interface configuration and dns resolvers (slaac+dhcp6, or dhcp, or something). but beyond that i agree srv records for service discovery works quite well | 17:02 |
| mordred | kragniz: yah | 17:02 |
| kragniz | which is ew | 17:02 |
| mordred | kragniz: yah | 17:02 |
| kashyap | mordred: Okay, thanks for the info. Never heard of this tool before. /me comes from Bugzilla land. | 17:02 |
| mordred | kragniz: there is an API though | 17:02 |
| mordred | kragniz: so a non-php command line can totally be written | 17:02 |
| kragniz | mordred: cool, I've heard good things about it | 17:03 |
| kragniz | I'm sure there's already some 3rd party clis | 17:03 |
| mordred | clarkb, SpamapS: then past that don't expect an instance to be able to know how to configure/install itself out of the clear aether - assume that people doing things will have tools for doing that | 17:03 |
| mordred | and don't try to make the cloud ALSO solve config management | 17:03 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: well, so we have a way to inject DHCP stuff into a tenant-isolated network (the neutron dhcp service just gets a port on each network).. in theory we could shove the SSH key into a dhcp-option and call it a day with no further pain, but like you said it's a "hack" (unless we make an RFC, then it's a STANDARD ;) | 17:03 |
| mordred | we need to stop growing special purpose config management tools | 17:03 |
| mordred | yah. ssh key is the only thing where I think the discussion of how to get it on the box at boot is the right conversation to have | 17:04 |
| clarkb | SpamapS right if you do that you still nedd a service on host to deal with the data | 17:04 |
| clarkb | that has to know dhcp was abused | 17:04 |
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| clarkb | and you have to hope your dhcp client isnt going to vomit at you | 17:04 |
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| mordred | clarkb, fungi, SpamapS: I can have review/+A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185972/ ? I want to get that in and on nodepool before our next round of image builds | 17:05 |
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| clarkb | ya let me do that now | 17:06 |
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| greghaynes | theres a lot | 17:08 |
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| fungi | abusing a dhcp option to inject a literal ssh authorized key is an interesting idea, but i think it will quickly run afoul of the max message size (allowed by rfc 1531 to be at least 312 octets but no more than 576) | 17:09 |
| fungi | no, wait, i misread the protocol summary | 17:10 |
| woodster_ | mordred: fwiw, there were conversations last week about ways to get secrets on to VMs at boot time using barbican. Not sure if that is relevant here though | 17:11 |
| clarkb | mordred: trade you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186034/ | 17:11 |
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| clarkb | I am not sure any of this data is secret. Public ssh keys and IP addresses should not be considered secret | 17:11 |
| fungi | but regardless, i think literal authkeys are too big to go cramming into a dhcp option payload, so probably needs to be a callback url or something instead | 17:12 |
| woodster_ | clarkb: that's true! | 17:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya which is why srv records in dns make more sense to me | 17:12 |
| fungi | agreed | 17:12 |
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| greghaynes | prometheanfire: looks like you got the brief on making a gentoo element, should be pretty easy - just make a root.d and supply an install-packages script that DTRT when passed a list of packages | 17:12 |
| greghaynes | prometheanfire: and then you may also have to fill out some pkg-map files to map packages to the right name in various elements | 17:13 |
| clarkb | mordred: but we want 186034 in place for this too otherwise we will try to upload qcow2s to rax | 17:13 |
| fungi | dhcp gives you some unique identifier if you need it, then you lookup some specific srv record to give you the url for your metadata service, then you hit that url to request things like authorized_keys entries | 17:13 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 17:13 |
| prometheanfire | nova = sys-cluster/nova | 17:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: done | 17:14 |
| prometheanfire | greghaynes: added note to my todo item | 17:14 |
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| clarkb | mordred: cool, I guess that means that vhd is the correct type to give disk image builder for the raw to rax friendly image conversion? | 17:17 |
| mordred | yes | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add test for osc config refresh https://review.openstack.org/186502 | 17:27 |
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| mordred | ooh. fancy | 17:27 |
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| greghaynes | totally untested test | 17:27 |
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| mordred | I feel like I removed the "write a clouds.yaml" thing in a patch | 17:28 |
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| mordred | it's possible I did that in a patch rev that I reverted | 17:28 |
| greghaynes | ah, we can also assert the behavior with the other form of config loading, it should be all the same though | 17:29 |
| mordred | yah | 17:29 |
| mordred | no - I mean, your patch looks fine | 17:29 |
| greghaynes | I dont see a remove clouds.yaml patch that merged | 17:30 |
| greghaynes | just the one fixing - to _ | 17:30 |
| clarkb | I think mordred means in the nodepool test suite | 17:31 |
| clarkb | but I don't recall one either | 17:31 |
| greghaynes | so many patches the past few days | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce an experimental job for Linux Bridge https://review.openstack.org/184830 | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Set image-type to vhd for rax nodepool providers https://review.openstack.org/186034 | 17:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce an experimental job for Linux Bridge https://review.openstack.org/184830 | 17:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: also when you restart nodepool for your change don't forget to `pip install shade==$latest oscc==$latest` | 17:33 |
| clarkb | once thats done we can push a clouds.yaml update to call profiles profiles | 17:33 |
| clarkb | ok time for me to finish unpacking car seats and clothes and all that | 17:34 |
| mordred | clarkb: I already put one of those up there | 17:34 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: fun fun | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce an experimental job for Linux Bridge https://review.openstack.org/184830 | 17:35 |
| greghaynes | somehow I didnt get the openplague but wife did | 17:35 |
| greghaynes | this is confusing | 17:35 |
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| mtreinish | greghaynes: I think everyone just has the Canadian plague | 17:35 |
| greghaynes | Yes, 'The putines' | 17:36 |
| greghaynes | er, poutines | 17:36 |
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| SpamapS | Worst | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | band | 17:36 |
| SpamapS | evar | 17:36 |
| anteaya | very sloppy | 17:36 |
| greghaynes | haha | 17:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce an experimental job for Linux Bridge https://review.openstack.org/184830 | 17:37 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: must as I don't have the Canadian plague | 17:37 |
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| * taron also escaped the plague | 17:40 | |
| taron | +1 infection shield of citizenship I guess | 17:40 |
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| fungi | not sure how i managed to avoid it. maybe it's because i was snacking on http://japfoodonline.com/suppaiman-sweet-dried-plum/ the whole time | 17:42 |
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| mordred | fungi: happy +A for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185972 ? | 17:42 |
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| fungi | mordred: it's a new look for you | 17:43 |
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| fungi | wow, that change has evolved a bit since i last reviewed it | 17:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add external plugin support to subunit2sql-graph https://review.openstack.org/186506 | 17:44 |
| mordred | fungi: we're learned things | 17:44 |
| mordred | we've | 17:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove local scope in favor of global variables https://review.openstack.org/186449 | 17:44 |
| zaro | fungi, clarkb, jeblair : i don't believe the https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/48288 fixed the gerrit issue. testing on review-dev shows http://paste.openstack.org/show/242703/ | 17:45 |
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| AJaeger | mordred, fungi: Could you review https://review.openstack.org/181660 and https://review.openstack.org/183777 if you have some time, please? | 17:46 |
| fungi | zaro: that's unfortunate news, but seems like we have some feedback for them in that case | 17:46 |
| zaro | fungi, clarkb, jeblair : take a at line 355 | 17:46 |
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| zaro | going to reply to the gerrit email list on this top with results unless you guys think there's something else we should try? | 17:47 |
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| mgagne | is there a specific mailinglist or channel where I can ask "legal rights" ? | 17:57 |
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| fungi | mgagne: legal-discuss@lists.openstack.org | 17:58 |
| mordred | mgagne: openstack-legal is the mailing list for legal questions | 17:58 |
| mordred | oh | 17:58 |
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| mordred | mgagne: listen to fungi , not me | 17:58 |
| mgagne | specific problem: someone took my (abandoned) change and made it pass as his own work | 17:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Extend support for join-trigger https://review.openstack.org/186176 | 17:58 |
| fungi | mgagne: oh, that sounds less like a discussion of legal things and more like a complaint. do you have a link to the change(s)? | 17:59 |
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| mgagne | fungi: yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186109/ | 17:59 |
| fungi | i would consider that abuse, whether either accidental or intentional | 17:59 |
| mgagne | fungi: the situation didn't get resolved in a way that makes me happy about it | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | George Peristerakis proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Moved the server class out from the logstash and logstash_worker class https://review.openstack.org/185053 | 18:00 |
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| mgagne | fungi: and change owner is still dismissive about the situation or about the fact that it was remotely "wrong" to do it | 18:00 |
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| j^2 | The Openstack+Chef project got merged in via the TC the other day. Is there an automated way to move the stackforge repos into the openstack name space? Also where can i update the main wikis and what not. (i’m only asking because I’ve already gotten people asking me on when it’s happening) | 18:00 |
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| fungi | mgagne: that looks like a clear violation of our community code of conduct | 18:01 |
| fungi | mgagne: https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/ | 18:01 |
| mgagne | fungi: I'm talking with him on IRC (#puppet-openstack) and his responses are the same kind as the ones giving in the change comments | 18:01 |
| mordred | j^2: it's a maint event for us ... so we'll have to schedule one | 18:02 |
| AJaeger | fungi: So, who should step in? Is that something for the PTL? Or for reed? | 18:02 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I agree with your assessment, this is a violation | 18:02 |
| j^2 | mordred: nice, who or what can i do to start setting this up? | 18:03 |
| AJaeger | mordred: thanks for the reviews! | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Experimental Devstack job for Identity v3 API only https://review.openstack.org/179661 | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Update pbr version pins https://review.openstack.org/186250 | 18:04 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i'm bringing it to the attention of other foundation staff now (unfortunately #puppet-openstack is not logged so i have nothing to link them to for that part) | 18:04 |
| mgagne | fungi: it's logged but not on the official system | 18:04 |
| crinkle | fungi: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/puppet-openstack/ | 18:04 |
| mgagne | fungi: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/puppet-openstack/2015-05-28 | 18:05 |
| crinkle | not sure why we're not using the official one | 18:05 |
| mgagne | crinkle: thanks | 18:05 |
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| mgagne | crinkle: yes, I suggest we move it | 18:05 |
| mordred | crinkle: we should probably fix that | 18:05 |
| fungi | mgagne: crinkle: thanks, that helps | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Consume os-client-config directly https://review.openstack.org/185972 | 18:05 |
| zaro | fungi, clarkb, jeblair : fyi, it looks like there's a major jgit memory leak issue, probably a regression but hasn't been fixed yet: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?pli=1#inbox/14d6d9eb0fe9c171 | 18:05 |
| mgagne | mordred: want me to propose a change? should I propose the change on the ML first? | 18:05 |
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| mgagne | mordred: or propose change and ask later on ML for reviews and/or concerns? | 18:06 |
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| fungi | mgagne: so as far as the code of conduct violation, i recommend just indefinitely blocking that proposed review with a -2. i mean, you're a core reviewer on that repo so you have that power | 18:06 |
| fungi | but we should also follow up from the community side | 18:07 |
| fungi | i'm going to see who wants to reach out to RichardRaseley on this topic | 18:07 |
| mgagne | fungi: as I'm part of the "conflict", I don't feel I'm the right person to -2 the change as I could have "conflict of interests" in the matter | 18:07 |
| AJaeger | mgagne: if you like to do the IRC change, go ahead. anybody can ;) | 18:08 |
| mgagne | AJaeger: yes, I'm already familiar with the process, it's more about the "social" aspect of it | 18:08 |
| mordred | mgagne: openstack is, in fact, _not_ just about "getting work done" - it's also a social structure, and the social and political parts of that are very important | 18:08 |
| mordred | mgagne: I think it's more than justified to maintain your -2 until the situation gets resolved | 18:09 |
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| fungi | crinkle: do you mind stepping in with a -2 on that change while the authorship is worked out (via restoring and amending 70458 or adding a co-authored-by header to the commit message or whatever seems appropriate resolution)? | 18:09 |
| mgagne | mordred: ok, I however wish to get help as I don't want to be alone in my boat ^^' | 18:09 |
| crinkle | fungi: i can do that | 18:09 |
| SpamapS | zigo: ok, I'm officially off pysaml2 for a while. https://github.com/rohe/pysaml2/pull/224 shows the latest state. The last 5 failures are hard and will need to be addressed by the pysaml2 developers. | 18:09 |
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| mgagne | fungi: note: the change got reworked (after asking for authorship recognition) to remove all my original work | 18:10 |
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| fungi | from a copyright standpoint, that's not exactly a "clean-room" rewrite and would still count as a derivative work (though ianal) | 18:11 |
| mgagne | fungi: so technically, it isn't my work anymore (I don't how the "idea" of this refactor) but I feel the whole process was dishonest from the start | 18:11 |
| AJaeger | mgagne: Even in that case, I consider a Co-Authored-By: a friendly part of the commit message since it's based on your ideas. | 18:11 |
| AJaeger | mgagne: I agree with others, this is a social part - and that social part means recognizing others. | 18:12 |
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| fungi | as far as enforcing the community code of conduct, leaders of the broader openstack community can step in and help resolve issues like this, but it's *better* if the subproject leadership acts to diffuse the situation before it gets to that point | 18:13 |
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| crinkle | our PTL is on PTO at the moment | 18:13 |
| mgagne | fungi: he is currently doing a road trip =) | 18:13 |
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| fungi | the ptl is a figurehead. you are leaders ;) | 18:14 |
| fungi | as core reviewers on those projects you are effectively delegates of the technical lead | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Add test for osc config refresh https://review.openstack.org/186502 | 18:16 |
| j^2 | I heard the PTL is just the hub of information, the Core Reviewers are the leadership team | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Enable logging of #puppet-openstack https://review.openstack.org/186521 | 18:19 |
| AJaeger | crinkle, mgagne I did the logging patch for you ^ | 18:19 |
| crinkle | thanks AJaeger | 18:19 |
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| mgagne | AJaeger: tyvm sir | 18:20 |
| j^2 | who can i set up the maintance schedule with to move the Chef cookbooks in the OpenStack namespace, is there a review i need to set up? | 18:21 |
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| dkranz | fungi: sorry, I will give the real error | 18:21 |
| dkranz | fungi: /opt/stack/new/devstack-gate/devstack-vm-gate.sh: line 457: cd: /opt/stack/new/devstack: No such file or directory | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | j^2: this will be discussed at the next infrastructure team meeting | 18:22 |
| j^2 | AJaeger: rock on, that’s what i needed to know, thanks! | 18:22 |
| AJaeger | j^2: is it already on our tracking list at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting ? | 18:22 |
| j^2 | AJaeger: looks like it’s not, should i put it under Upcomming Project Renames? | 18:23 |
| AJaeger | j^2: please do - and add your change for it. | 18:23 |
| j^2 | docs on what’s requride for the change? | 18:23 |
| j^2 | or just cargo cult it from something else? | 18:23 |
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| AJaeger | j^2: process is: You propose a change and reference it from that wiki page | 18:24 |
| j^2 | cool | 18:24 |
| AJaeger | j^2: cargocult, just check the other changes there... | 18:24 |
| AJaeger | j^2: if you need help, just ask. | 18:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerry Zhao proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: add option to use ipv6 for image update and node launching https://review.openstack.org/156178 | 18:24 |
| j^2 | AJaeger: will do, thanks again | 18:24 |
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| fungi | j^2: or if you don't like to worship cargo, start with a git grep of your repo names in openstack-infra/project-config and update any files where you find references | 18:24 |
| fungi | j^2: then reviewers will hopefully guide you to anything you may have missed beyond that | 18:25 |
| j^2 | fungi: that’ll probably be the easiest way, we have 16ish? repos, i dont want to do them by hand | 18:25 |
| fungi | j^2: i find sed -i works wonders | 18:25 |
| j^2 | fungi: ^5 my man | 18:26 |
| fungi | also for loops in shell | 18:26 |
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| fungi | j^2: you'll also want to propose a similar change to the openstack/governance repo to update the reference/projects.yaml file | 18:27 |
| j^2 | fungi: kk, will do | 18:27 |
| fungi | j^2: unless that already got done when the tc decided on inclusion for your project team | 18:28 |
| AJaeger | fungi: something for our checklist - not sure whether any of the projects currently proposed have done so... | 18:28 |
| j^2 | fungi: yeah we’re already merged via: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175000/ | 18:28 |
| AJaeger | j^2: cool | 18:29 |
| fungi | j^2: okay, that looks good, so shouldn't need to update the governance repo | 18:29 |
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| j^2 | awesome, so yeah i’ll start the sed -i for the repos and come back with my first pass at the infra repo | 18:29 |
| * AJaeger just reviews the proposed renames for governance - first two are already correct | 18:30 | |
| AJaeger | wow, they're all already correct in governance! | 18:30 |
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| samueldmq | do I need to wait Jenkins first round of jobs execution to leave a 'check experimental' comment ? | 18:31 |
| fungi | samueldmq: nope | 18:31 |
| samueldmq | fungi, nice, thanks | 18:31 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq: wait 15 mins until the job has merged so that puppet has run.. | 18:31 |
| AJaeger | I mean the change with the changes for your job | 18:32 |
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| fungi | samueldmq: oh, i misunderstood what you were asking | 18:32 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, oh sorry, I just left the comment ... am I going to break something ? | 18:32 |
| samueldmq | fungi, no I think it was me that wasn't clear enough | 18:33 |
| fungi | samueldmq: nah, it'll just come back with that job name as NOT_REGISTERED | 18:33 |
| AJaeger | samueldmq: no - but it might be that your job is not setup... | 18:33 |
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| AJaeger | samueldmq: so, you might need to redo the check experimental after you have it reported back | 18:33 |
| fungi | right | 18:33 |
| mordred | fungi: ok - so - I'm ready to restart nodepool to pick up the changes | 18:33 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, actually it has been 30 mins since it has merged, so it should work | 18:34 |
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| AJaeger | samueldmq: ok | 18:34 |
| samueldmq | AJaeger, fungi great, thanks | 18:34 |
| fungi | mordred: we're pretty heavy on node usage at the moment. i won't say don't, but you might want to wait until nodepoold won't be playing catch-up | 18:34 |
| mordred | fungi: good call | 18:34 |
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| mordred | fungi: yah - it's not urgent - more saying "ready to go" | 18:35 |
| fungi | awesome | 18:35 |
| uberjay | hey there. i seem to have a zuul-master process up at nearly 1.5G RSS -- is this a known issue? if not, is there anything I could do to collect some diagnostics? | 18:35 |
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| SpamapS | wow this gertty migration takes a long time | 18:36 |
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| amuller | Hello everyone. I'm seeing failures in unit test jobs in Neutron gate checks: "/usr/local/jenkins/slave_scripts/run-tox.sh: line 28: /pip: No such file or directory" | 18:37 |
| amuller | Check out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186234/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184318/, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185486/ | 18:37 |
| amuller | Is this issue known? | 18:37 |
| SpamapS | oooo eatmydata helps A LOT | 18:37 |
| AJaeger | amuller: just run "recheck" | 18:37 |
| AJaeger | amuller: we had a problem and it's fixed now... | 18:37 |
| amuller | AJaeger: Thank you | 18:38 |
| AJaeger | amuller: sorry for not catching the problem during review ;( | 18:38 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: regarding gertty migration slowness.. might want to consider batched transactions. eatmydata is about 1000x faster, suggesting that even just 10x inserts per commit would probably make it bearable. | 18:38 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: have you considered using /dev/null as your storage engine | 18:40 |
| SpamapS | mordred: is it webscale? | 18:40 |
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| bswartz | anteaya: ping | 18:42 |
| anteaya | hello | 18:42 |
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| mordred | look, it's an anteaya | 18:43 |
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| anteaya | mordred: here I are | 18:44 |
| anteaya | been doing one on one work most of the day | 18:44 |
| anteaya | that tends not to show up in channels | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add graph command to graph daily test count over time https://review.openstack.org/186442 | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add external plugin support to subunit2sql-graph https://review.openstack.org/186506 | 18:47 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: would now be a good chance to test the delete command on the subunit2sql db? | 18:51 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: if we want to test it under load, then yes. we're churning a fairly high job count right now | 18:51 |
| mtreinish | fungi: yeah, probably getting an idea for the worst case would be better | 18:52 |
| mtreinish | fungi: the wip commit with the cron job is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176564/1/manifests/server.pp | 18:52 |
| mtreinish | which would be run on logstash.o.o | 18:53 |
| samueldmq | just noticed zuul now has a new UI :) | 18:53 |
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| mtreinish | I assume however long it takes now would be worse than sunday at 3am :) | 18:53 |
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| SpamapS | hrm not so much.. looks like just writing to sqlite's log is slllloowwww | 18:54 |
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| fungi | SpamapS: i think gertty might be stretching the sqlite use case a little | 18:56 |
| fungi | though perhaps just for migrations | 18:56 |
| SpamapS | fungi: I've had this problem before. ;) | 18:56 |
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| SpamapS | it would be slow with BDB too. :-P | 18:56 |
| fungi | yup | 18:56 |
| SpamapS | lot of data, single threaded, crappy lapto disk | 18:57 |
| SpamapS | but doing it with eatmydata is sszzooommmmgggg fast ;) | 18:57 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: this is just telling you to get a better disk | 18:57 |
| SpamapS | 30s to migrate all 6700 diffstats in my db | 18:57 |
| fungi | serverless databases seem to reinvent most of berkeley db's problems | 18:57 |
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| fungi | also key-value stores seem to reinvent the remainder of berkeley db's problems | 18:58 |
| Sukhdev | fungi: QQ for you | 18:58 |
| Sukhdev | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181665/ this got approval this morning - I do not see it merged or in the zuul queue | 18:59 |
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| mtreinish | SpamapS: although to be fair the initial migrations are still kinda slow on the ssd in my desktop | 18:59 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: it's a TON of syncs | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | just a ton | 19:00 |
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| SpamapS | almost worth it for gertty to spawn itself in a migration-only entry point with eatmydata active. | 19:01 |
| SpamapS | 1000x faster easily. | 19:01 |
| SpamapS | of course I have a crappy laptop spinning disk because I"m lazy and I try not to keep anything local | 19:01 |
| AJaeger | Sukhdev: I don't see an approval on it | 19:02 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/chef* to openstack/chef* https://review.openstack.org/186532 | 19:02 |
| j^2 | AJaeger: ^^ | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | Sukhdev: oops, see it now... | 19:02 |
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| Sukhdev | AJaeger: it was approved long time ago. I thought by now, it would be merged (probably sitting in the zuul Q) - but, when I look at zuul Q, I do not see it there | 19:03 |
| AJaeger | Sukhdev: Jenkins has not voted on it, seems it was lost. Add a single comment saying "recheck" so that Jenkins does it again... | 19:03 |
| Sukhdev | AJaeger: let me try - thanks | 19:03 |
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| fungi | Sukhdev: it never got a check result, so i've rechecked it | 19:05 |
| Sukhdev | fungi: AJaeger : thanks | 19:05 |
| fungi | and it seems to be in the check pipeline now. should transition to the gate pipeline automatically once that finishes if its initial jobs succees | 19:05 |
| fungi | er, succeed | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split security group list operations https://review.openstack.org/179945 | 19:06 |
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| Sukhdev | fungi: Thanks - I will keep an eye on it | 19:07 |
| AJaeger | j^2: please mention all repos on the wiki-page, don't use wildcards | 19:07 |
| j^2 | in the commit message? | 19:07 |
| AJaeger | j^2: on the wiki page | 19:09 |
| j^2 | oh, ok | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | j^2: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting | 19:09 |
| j^2 | sorry, my bad, i got my wires crossed | 19:09 |
| j^2 | will do | 19:10 |
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| AJaeger | j^2: ignore the failures - my comments tell you the same ;) | 19:12 |
| j^2 | cool, thanks! | 19:12 |
| AJaeger | j^2: If you do an update, mention the governance change in it, that makes it easier for reviewers to understand why you're doing it. | 19:12 |
| AJaeger | j^2: oh, you did - sorry, now I had my wires crossed ;/ | 19:13 |
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| j^2 | ha! | 19:13 |
| j^2 | i was worried for a second there | 19:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Don't include system test gems when doing lint https://review.openstack.org/185104 | 19:18 |
| fungi | mtreinish: http://paste.openstack.org/show/242852 | 19:19 |
| fungi | not sure what's going on there | 19:19 |
| AJaeger | j^2: your patch will conflict with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178298 - what's the proper solution? | 19:19 |
| docaedo | I have a question about moving app-catalog to openstack infra - using openstack-planet as the model, that repo only has the web content | 19:19 |
| docaedo | but apps-catalog has some extra stuff, and web-root is two directories deep (https://github.com/stackforge/apps-catalog) | 19:20 |
| j^2 | odd that’s a great question AJaeger | 19:20 |
| j^2 | oooh i mean | 19:20 |
| j^2 | not odd | 19:20 |
| fungi | docaedo: yeah, we'll need something more complex i'm sure. i chose a very simple example | 19:20 |
| j^2 | AJaeger: i’ll get em to rebase of the patch i’m putting in, they’d want it more then this patch you linked | 19:20 |
| j^2 | i’ll take note for it for our next meeting | 19:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-ovn: Allow gate hook scripts. https://review.openstack.org/186538 | 19:21 |
| docaedo | :) ok - I'm wondering for the puppet module that updates the content, should the web content be at the base directory, or is it OK to just clone the whole repo and point the web-root to openstack_catalog/web ? | 19:21 |
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| fungi | docaedo: basically the next thing we'll need to know is what packages do we need to install (apache2?) how to configure them (basic apache vhost block?) and what static files need to be arranged in what orientation and where to get them (from the apps-catalog repo? from other places on the internet?) | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | j^2: thanks | 19:23 |
| docaedo | fungi: ok - this should be easy, just needs apache2 with basic vhost block, and all the content comes from apps-catalog repo | 19:23 |
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| fungi | docaedo: usually we use something like the puppet vcsrepo module to continuously deploy your repo with the static content/scripts and use a subscribe or notify to trigger any deployment scripts | 19:23 |
| fungi | docaedo: our puppet-etherpad module might be a slightly better "complex" example | 19:23 |
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| fungi | docaedo: and it uses the same idea as your suggestion of "serve things from a subtree of the git checkout" | 19:24 |
| docaedo | fungi: thanks I'll look at that one and do some more learning | 19:24 |
| fungi | docaedo: the trick is that vcsrepo is sort of touchy about unrecognized changes in the work-tree of the repo, so if there's any scripted deployment or changes that need to be made to configuration, that will need to happen out-of-tree so it doesn't get befuddled | 19:25 |
| docaedo | The guidance is appreciated - I'm trying to minimize unnecessary duplication as much as possible | 19:26 |
| fungi | basically serving content directly from the checkout location is fine as long as you don't modify/add files locally on the server | 19:26 |
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| fungi | if you do, those need to go somewhere that isn't in the work-tree of the git clone and get linked somehow (apache alias directives or whatever) | 19:26 |
| fungi | and if there's a lot of that, then it's sometimes easier to just have puppet copy files from the checkout to your real docroot instead | 19:27 |
| docaedo | yep, nothing gets modified locally, only changes are what gets merged | 19:27 |
| fungi | but anyway, we can work through the messy details once there's a basic skeleton sketched out for the module so we can test it | 19:28 |
| docaedo | (if that's what you're talking about - ie no caching or anything happening on the server side, just an index.html, some images and a few yaml files | 19:28 |
| fungi | docaedo: yep. where it gets tricky is, like, if the app has configuration which you want to parameterize, maybe so that you can inject credentials for an external data store or something | 19:29 |
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| docaedo | it will get tricky later for sure, I'm certain of that. but today, dead simple | 19:29 |
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| fungi | then you might keep a copy of your basic config as an erb template in the puppet module with variables that can get substituted from a private hiera store | 19:29 |
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| fungi | but you wouldn't want to have puppet actually write the resulting file back into the vcsrepo-managed git work-tree | 19:30 |
| fungi | so the app needs to be smart enough that it can look outside its relative path for things like configuration in those sorts of situations | 19:30 |
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| fungi | i really need to take a break to catch up on my expense reports from the summit | 19:38 |
| * fungi will bbl | 19:38 | |
| mtreinish | fungi: ugh, I need to do that too | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split security group list operations https://review.openstack.org/179945 | 19:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafyaml into openstack-infra https://review.openstack.org/182045 | 19:43 |
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| pabelanger | AJaeger, re: docs-sites/infra-documents.yaml: mind linking the puppet code or shell script that generates the projects on that folder? | 19:44 |
| fungi | pabelanger: there's a tox target for it in tox.ini | 19:45 |
| fungi | pabelanger: tox -e infra-docs | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | fungi, Ya, that seems to generate just the index.html file. How does the folder structure for the projects (eg: zuul) get filled out? | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | project specific tox -e docs? | 19:46 |
| fungi | pabelanger: there's a publisher job specific for those... {name}-infra-docs | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | fungi, perfect | 19:47 |
| pabelanger | thanks | 19:47 |
| fungi | pabelanger: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/infra-publish-jobs.yaml | 19:48 |
| fungi | ...is what i think you're looking for | 19:48 |
| pabelanger | Yup | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | that is it | 19:49 |
| fungi | pabelanger: just normal sphinx docs generation, but uploaded to a sub-tree of the docs.o.o site | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | cool | 19:49 |
| fungi | and parameterized so we can pass in a subtree anchor | 19:49 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: were you adding new docs or reviewing a change? | 19:50 |
| pabelanger | fungi, AJaeger asked me to add the docs for grafyaml | 19:50 |
| pabelanger | I added it into index.yaml file, but wanted to understand how it worked | 19:50 |
| pabelanger | first time touching that stuff | 19:50 |
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| pabelanger | fungi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182045/ | 19:51 |
| fungi | pabelanger: https://review.openstack.org/186168 for an example | 19:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename ironic-milestone group in gerrit to ironic-stable-maint https://review.openstack.org/186548 | 19:51 |
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| mriedem | adam_g: devananda: ^ | 19:51 |
| fungi | pabelanger: ahh, you already reviewed it even | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | fungi, Ya, did that one this morning too. I figured infra-publish-jobs was the hook, just confirming since I was asked to add it too | 19:53 |
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| devananda | mriedem: ack, +1'd | 19:54 |
| * fungi stops getting sidetracked and gets back to the unpleasantness of expense reports | 19:54 | |
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| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/chef* to openstack/chef* https://review.openstack.org/186532 | 19:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP: Create zuul-packaging experimental job https://review.openstack.org/186441 | 20:06 |
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| j^2 | AJaeger: can i poke you about the alphabitizing? i thought i had it right | 20:07 |
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| j^2 | the console: http://logs.openstack.org/32/186532/2/check/gate-project-config-projects-yaml/5cf26da/console.html doesnt tell me what’s out of order | 20:10 |
| j^2 | wait yes it does, i think | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/chef* to openstack/chef* https://review.openstack.org/186532 | 20:12 |
| j^2 | ok, i think i got it now | 20:12 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: re gertty migration: sounds like a good idea (though the slowest of the two recent migrations was mostly due to 'git diff' operations) | 20:16 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: interesting, I may have missed that. So is it possible eatmydata speeds up git diff? | 20:17 |
| SpamapS | I just tried 1000 insert batches and it didn't get faster, so I think probably. | 20:18 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: knowing what i know about eatmydata, that would not suprise me | 20:18 |
| jeblair | (i know it operates via ld_preload madness, so seems like it would impact a git diff subprocess) | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | git diff probably makes lots of tempfiles. | 20:18 |
| jeblair | anteaya: did you finish reviewing https://review.openstack.org/186217 ? i don't see a comment | 20:20 |
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| AJaeger | jeblair: could you review as PTL https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182045/ and https://review.openstack.org/186479 - these add new repos to openstack-infra, please? | 20:26 |
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| nibalizer | root@ftctstatic01g:~# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf | 20:27 |
| nibalizer | Acquire::http::Proxy ""; | 20:27 |
| nibalizer | root@ftctstatic01g:~# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf | 20:27 |
| nibalizer | Acquire::http::Proxy ""; | 20:27 |
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| nibalizer | erp | 20:27 |
| nibalizer | sorry | 20:27 |
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| jeblair | not the worst thing you could have cat-pasted as root :) | 20:27 |
| nibalizer | left click and middle click are different | 20:27 |
| mordred | nibalizer: yes. they really are | 20:28 |
| nibalizer | but now that I have a lenovo again... Ihave a middle click button | 20:29 |
| nibalizer | its a wonderful thing | 20:29 |
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| AJaeger | pabelanger: for grafyaml: Could you propose a change for the governance repo as well, please? | 20:31 |
| AJaeger | pabelanger: ah, found it... | 20:32 |
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| fungi | the other day i had to figure out how to reenable emulate3buttons in modern xorg/debian. hello again xorg.conf, long time no see | 20:32 |
| pabelanger | AJaeger, cool | 20:32 |
| electrical | Hiya guys :-) | 20:33 |
| AJaeger | pabelanger: just found one issue, sorry ;( | 20:34 |
| pabelanger | np | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafyaml into openstack-infra https://review.openstack.org/182045 | 20:37 |
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| electrical | nibalizer: how you doing bud? | 20:37 |
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| pabelanger | Do we have an example hiera.yaml and common.yaml file for system-config these days? I know there have been some recent layout changes | 20:39 |
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| dougwig | hello infra, looking for a second project-config core to take a peek at adding an lbaasv1 experimental job (removing them from tempest). thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184870/ | 20:42 |
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| mriedem | notmyname: question for you in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92196/ - should swift not be in projects.txt in the requirements repo so it doesn't sync from global-requirements? | 20:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/chef* to openstack/chef* https://review.openstack.org/186532 | 20:44 |
| notmyname | mriedem: actually, I like getting those patches, even though I've got a standing -2 on them ;-) | 20:45 |
| notmyname | mriedem: mostly, I want to update as needed when the newer setting conflicts with what's currently there. but I don't want to update if what's there doesn't conflict | 20:45 |
| notmyname | mriedem: and I like knowing what things are changing | 20:45 |
| notmyname | mriedem: but unfortunately, the side effect is that we've got a patch with about 200 patch sets on it | 20:46 |
| amuller | lifeless: yo, I'm trying to invoke tox in a way so that it would skip a certain test / class / module | 20:46 |
| mriedem | notmyname: yeah, and if you do ever take one, you get the aggregate | 20:46 |
| amuller | lifeless: I can do it by directly using testr, list-tests, sed that file, then load-list | 20:46 |
| amuller | lifeless: but I need to invoke the tests themselves via tox because we use tox.ini to set a bunch of env vars | 20:46 |
| mriedem | notmyname: that's fine, was just wondering since i'm going through old stable/icehouse changes | 20:46 |
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| notmyname | mriedem: yeah. although it's more likely that we'll take only part of them and do it as a separate patch | 20:46 |
| notmyname | mriedem: oh, so on the old stable/* patches, I'd be fine if you abandoned the current one | 20:47 |
| notmyname | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92196/ | 20:47 |
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| mriedem | notmyname: yeah that's the one i was looking at, dropped it | 20:48 |
| mriedem | thanks | 20:48 |
| mriedem | looking to eol icehouse next week | 20:48 |
| notmyname | mriedem: no, than you | 20:48 |
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| electrical | zaro: There are a few changes for JJB that just need a +1 in workflow to be processed further. How would you like to handle those further? | 20:57 |
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| zigo | SpamapS: Thanks a lot for your work. | 21:05 |
| zigo | SpamapS: Do you know anyone else who could work on it? Do you think it'd be worth asking the openstack-dev list? Maybe ask Victor? | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add repo for puppet-apps_site module https://review.openstack.org/186479 | 21:08 |
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| fungi | docaedo: ^ so the puppet module repo should exist here shortly and then we can put together an initial change for review which adds the necessary boilerplate as a starting point | 21:16 |
| mordred | notmyname: btw - if you haven't already - you should connect with lifeless about his new plan for requirements management | 21:16 |
| mordred | notmyname: I think it'll be much more to your liking | 21:16 |
| fungi | oh, right, "make swift developers happy" was a significant design goal in our summit discussions around requirements handling | 21:16 |
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| fungi | no joke | 21:16 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/chef* to openstack/chef* https://review.openstack.org/186532 | 21:17 |
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| mordred | fungi, notmyname: of course, a significant part of the enablement for that has involved writing a depsolver | 21:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-ovn: Allow gate hook scripts. https://review.openstack.org/186538 | 21:18 |
| fungi | indeed. a subset of "make everyone who relies on pip for anything a whole lot happier" | 21:18 |
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| docaedo | fungi: thanks! I just got back to poking at a fork of the etherpad one (stripping out unneeded bits), was going to play with it in a VM here | 21:19 |
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| * morganfainberg wants awesome depsolver. I also remember needing to try out a depsolver this week that I think lifeless was working on. | 21:20 | |
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| lifeless | notmyname: I will have a draft up my afternoon | 21:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Make hiera default values optional https://review.openstack.org/186568 | 21:28 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: I finished my pass yes, I didn't comment as it was stil wip | 21:28 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I can comment | 21:28 |
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| mordred | jesusaurus: dude | 21:31 |
| anteaya | I commented, thanks | 21:31 |
| mordred | jesusaurus: does that mean we can drop all of those defaults with taht patch? | 21:31 |
| mordred | jesusaurus: also- it's so small! | 21:32 |
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| nibalizer | yip | 21:33 |
| docaedo | fungi: seems like puppet-etherpad is a lot more complicated than needed, but then puppet-planet is too simple (i.e unless I missed it, the planet one doesn't install/require apache). Is there an example that lies somewhere in the middle? | 21:34 |
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| mordred | docaedo: I feel like I just did one recently | 21:37 |
| jesusaurus | mordred: yep | 21:37 |
| fungi | docaedo: perhaps puppet-lodgeit, -mediawiki, -phabricator, -reviewday, -storyboard, -zanata | 21:38 |
| jesusaurus | mordred: never underestimate sed :) | 21:38 |
| fungi | docaedo: all web apps | 21:38 |
| nibalizer | so what does the line above it do? | 21:38 |
| mordred | most of those are complex though | 21:38 |
| nibalizer | is that a fix for a different problem? | 21:38 |
| fungi | yeah, i can't think of any which fall in between puppet-planet and puppet-etherpad_lite from a complexity gradient standpoint | 21:38 |
| jesusaurus | nibalizer: the line above is for hiera calls that do have a default value | 21:38 |
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| nibalizer | I think... all the hiera calls have a default value? | 21:39 |
| jesusaurus | nibalizer: yes, but there is a desire to have hiera calls with no default value, and this allows for either | 21:40 |
| docaedo | to be clear though, the puppet-apps_site repo needs to have a module that installs & configures apache, then clones the apps_site repo for the content, right? | 21:40 |
| mordred | yup. | 21:40 |
| nibalizer | okay cool | 21:40 |
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| mordred | docaedo: gimme a sec - let me make you a very non-functional thing | 21:40 |
| docaedo | mordred: thanks | 21:40 |
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| pabelanger | man, still trying to get nodepool dibs going. git.openstack.org not happy right now | 21:48 |
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| pabelanger | Also, don't think I have apt-cache setup properly, random failing on downloading packages | 21:48 |
| mordred | docaedo: https://github.com/emonty/puppet-app_site | 21:49 |
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| mordred | docaedo: that probably doesn't actually work - but I think it's 99% of what you need | 21:49 |
| docaedo | mordred: Thanks for that (and thanks to everyone else for all the help!) | 21:49 |
| mordred | docaedo: (as I, I have not run the puppet command or tested that in any way) | 21:49 |
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| zaro | electrical: which changes? | 21:50 |
| mordred | so it might delete all of your computer and also possibly send hate mails to exes | 21:50 |
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| docaedo | haha, no prob - I could actually use a good excuse for some of my emails, this will come in handy | 21:50 |
| SpamapS | zigo: Roland has agreed to take a look at the last 5 failures. | 21:50 |
| mordred | :) | 21:50 |
| zigo | Cool ! :) | 21:50 |
| SpamapS | zigo: They're likely not too complicated. | 21:50 |
| SpamapS | zigo: just beyond my knowledge of the internals. | 21:50 |
| mordred | SpamapS: bah. I assume you to know everything | 21:51 |
| SpamapS | mordred: I knew everything, but then.. whiskey.. | 21:51 |
| jamielennox | hey all, can someone have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186228/ it just turns off a gate job for a feature branch, it's got one +2 already | 21:51 |
| zigo | mordred: YOU are the top OpenStack commiter, so you know better ... :D | 21:51 |
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| mordred | zigo: wait- I'm top committer now? | 21:51 |
| * SpamapS just got power back after 40 minutes while they turned on his solar panels... wooooooo | 21:51 | |
| mordred | that's scary for everyone | 21:51 |
| zigo | mordred: At least you used to be. | 21:51 |
| zigo | Yeah, that scared the shit out of me... :P | 21:52 |
| mordred | :) | 21:52 |
| mordred | jamielennox: done | 21:52 |
| * fungi feels this likely explains a lot of openstack ;) | 21:52 | |
| mdrnstm | mordred: now i'm scared. | 21:52 |
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| mordred | zigo: nope. I'm only #5 | 21:53 |
| SpamapS | fungi: Or perhaps OpenStack explains a lot of mordred? | 21:53 |
| fungi | seems like a 2-way street, yeah | 21:53 |
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| zigo | mordred: SHAME ON YOU ! GET BACK TO WORK !!! | 21:53 |
| mordred | SpamapS: in soviet openstack, mordred explains a lot of you | 21:53 |
| zigo | :D | 21:53 |
| * mordred hides | 21:53 | |
| mordred | zigo: I'd be #1 in reviews if AJaeger weren't such a machine | 21:53 |
| mdrnstm | mordred: looks like my last couple things didn't get to the channel | 21:54 |
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| mdrnstm | mordred: was thinking DNS Serv lookups belong where ever os-client-config ends up | 21:54 |
| mordred | mdrnstm: were any of them bottles of cachaça for me? | 21:54 |
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| mordred | mdrnstm: oh - SOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 21:54 |
| mordred | mdrnstm: a) yes | 21:54 |
| zigo | mordred: BTW, any chance you review this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185164/ | 21:55 |
| mdrnstm | mordred: oh I have one here. I'll bring that with me.. uhm.. somewhere | 21:55 |
| mordred | mdrnstm: b) I'm starting to second guess the consolidation plan | 21:55 |
| greghaynes | oh? | 21:55 |
| zigo | If it gets in, then I can go to step #2: starting to add jobs for actually building stuff... | 21:55 |
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| greghaynes | also, what is this about serv lookups and os-c-c? | 21:55 |
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| mordred | mdrnstm, greghaynes: although feel free to change my mind here real quick | 21:55 |
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| mdrnstm | mordred: i am fine with it staying separate or merging - i just was thinking SERV lookup stuff goes with os-c-c wherever that lands | 21:56 |
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| mdrnstm | since we talked about it beforre | 21:56 |
| mordred | main thing is - there are two use cases i've hacked on over the last two days: noticing changes in contents of config files so that servers don't have to restart | 21:56 |
| mordred | and programmatically iterating over a list of available clouds | 21:56 |
| mordred | that both _might_ be strange to expose through keystoneauth | 21:56 |
| fungi | hrm, need to go find food... bbiaw | 21:56 |
| mdrnstm | mordred: the main case i see for combining is with a "federate all the things" initiative where a service may need to know another cloud's info | 21:56 |
| mordred | or it might not | 21:56 |
| mordred | mdrnstm: that is a good point | 21:56 |
| mdrnstm | mordred: but that is looking pretty far out on the horizon | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding tests surrounding handling of defaults values https://review.openstack.org/185661 | 21:57 |
| mordred | mdrnstm: and actually, as I say it out loud - there are probably other things that might like to know if the surrounding config has changed | 21:57 |
| * mdrnstm is wanting to push to storing a Link Ref for resources soon instead of UUIDs | 21:57 | |
| greghaynes | mordred: whether or not we consolidate I dont think dictates what level of api we expose | 21:57 |
| mordred | mdrnstm: ++ | 21:57 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: thanks | 21:57 |
| SpamapS | are we actually going to play with the idea of letting clouds expose their keystone endpoint via SRV ? that would be so sweet. | 21:57 |
| greghaynes | I need to go read the ksa code for that... | 21:57 |
| mordred | greghaynes: yah. I think you're right. I think was just starting to have doubts and needed to say them out loud | 21:57 |
| mdrnstm | SpamapS: if i can make that happen yesterday, YES | 21:57 |
| mordred | SpamapS, mdrnstm +100 to endpoint in SRV record | 21:58 |
| greghaynes | wow, thats neat | 21:58 |
| mordred | also +100 to actually using link refs | 21:58 |
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| mdrnstm | SpamapS: SRV record, maybe a little DNSSEC for good measure (optional) | 21:58 |
| mdrnstm | it sounds all sorts of "lets make this thing better for our users" | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.vmware version to 0.13.1 https://review.openstack.org/186574 | 21:58 |
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| mordred | mdrnstm: yah | 21:59 |
| SpamapS | so close.. | 21:59 |
| mordred | ALTHOUGH - ability to specify an auth url instead of DNS for folks in private deploys == nice to users too | 21:59 |
| SpamapS | keystone is converging on kerberos so fast I can't keep up ;) | 21:59 |
| mdrnstm | mordred: never would change that ability | 21:59 |
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| mdrnstm | mordred: always need to be able to override in those cases | 21:59 |
| mdrnstm | SpamapS: getting there... i actually have a plan now to kill bearer tokens too | 22:00 |
| mordred | SpamapS: well, if you consider that keystone is kerb + hesiod, and zaqar is email - we really are close to reinventing the MIT campus IT infrastructure from the 90s but in python | 22:00 |
| mdrnstm | like.. kill them dead. | 22:00 |
| stevemar | mordred, hehe | 22:00 |
| j3p0uk | jhesketh - can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177201/ again please? No actual change, just trying to make the code moe reasonable... | 22:00 |
| mdrnstm | i think we're about 2-3 steps from breaking the need for bearer tokens btw | 22:01 |
| mordred | SpamapS: you know - in our discussions around using existing tech for notifications ... we haven't discussed zephyr yet | 22:01 |
| greghaynes | mordred: zephyr?} | 22:01 |
| mordred | it even fits with the model of all the other openstack services | 22:01 |
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| mordred | you have a zephyr server (sits on controller node) and a zephyr host manager (one per compute and network node) | 22:02 |
| mordred | and then zephyr clients sending and receiving messages | 22:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Ignore requirements job on keystoneauth branch https://review.openstack.org/186228 | 22:02 |
| mordred | greghaynes: it was the messaging system that was part of Athena, which also produced kerberos and hesiod | 22:02 |
| greghaynes | heh | 22:02 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ^^ I don't know why we haven't suggested replacing rabbit with zephyr yet | 22:03 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: because guess what - it has both directed and broadcast messages too :) | 22:03 |
| greghaynes | I really want to just hack a nginx plugin that can verify keystone tokens and then use nginx-pushstream... but I know ill get lynched for that | 22:03 |
| greghaynes | but, I also know it would work | 22:03 |
| _ody | If only you could dynamically load nginx modules... | 22:04 |
| greghaynes | well, you can kinda - from lua | 22:04 |
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| mdrnstm | greghaynes: uhm.. i mean it wouldn't be hard to do that... i assume you mean in lieu of keystonemiddleware | 22:05 |
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| greghaynes | I also wonder if any public cloud would be willing to deploy somethign that their clients could long poll on - they would basically be unable to put it behind their normal load balancers | 22:05 |
| mdrnstm | greghaynes: mostly because it requires some keystone internal knowledge to get the real data [esp. with fernet tokens] | 22:05 |
| greghaynes | mdrnstm: yea, either that or ffi out to keystonemiddleware | 22:06 |
| mdrnstm | greghaynes: nah. don't ffi out. really that seems silly | 22:06 |
| greghaynes | heh | 22:06 |
| mdrnstm | (it is probably the right answer so it's easier to update logic) | 22:06 |
| mdrnstm | it still looks silly | 22:06 |
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| clarkb | mordred I am back from all the things. where are we on nodepool dib? | 22:15 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: regarding longpoll, I share your concern. I wonder if a QUIC longpoll would be an option, since you could in theory do that with stateless load balancing. | 22:16 |
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| mordred | clarkb: code ready - have not restarted nodepool yet | 22:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: so - new code is on the server - libraries are upgraded | 22:17 |
| clarkb | ok so just need a restart? want me to do that? | 22:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure - I'm about to step out to grab some meat - but I doubt anything will break :) | 22:18 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yeaa, something like that... its one of those things where I wish we could tell them "no really just run this service not behind youd LB" but I dont think anyone would listen | 22:18 |
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| clarkb | ok will do that in a moment | 22:20 |
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| lifeless | greghaynes: huh? longpoll is fine with load balancers IME | 22:20 |
| openstackgerrit | JJ Asghar proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename stackforge/chef* to openstack/chef* https://review.openstack.org/186532 | 22:20 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: whats the specific concern? | 22:20 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: [I say this having deployed longpoll comet-style stuff that glued straight into rabbit...] | 22:20 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: behind the normal array of LB's | 22:20 |
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| greghaynes | lifeless: just scaling - it technically works but youre going to have to scale both it and the service behind it handling the connections 1:1 so it really doesnt buy you anything except more to manage. You also dont want to use the same LB's that youre using for non longpolling so you can tune the host separately | 22:21 |
| greghaynes | so that will require the clouds having another set of them | 22:21 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: I don't follow the why of that | 22:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: so fyi our rax vhd image is 14GB | 22:22 |
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| greghaynes | lifeless: which part? | 22:22 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: I think you have an unstated assumption / limitation around the LB stack you have in mind. | 22:22 |
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| clarkb | mordred: which is O_O | 22:22 |
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| clarkb | restarting nodepool now | 22:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: that sounds about right | 22:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: VHD is bonghits unoptimized | 22:22 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: all of it? | 22:22 |
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| mordred | clarkb: luckily we're uploading that from rax to rax swift | 22:22 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: so, holding those connections open consumes memory, and that is generally going to be the resource you run out of if youre holding a bunch of long polling sockets open | 22:22 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: I don't agree that longpoll implies 1:1 LB <-> Longpoll servers, and I don't agree that LP implies you need separate LB hosts. | 22:23 |
| clarkb | and bigips will only do ~50k ssl connections at a time without spending all the monies | 22:23 |
| mtreinish | mordred: heh, you expect that to be faster? :) | 22:23 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I am getting bad requests could not find image across rax and hpcloud | 22:24 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: and youre going to run out of that resource at the same rate on longpolling servers and loadbalancers because the longpolling servers shouldnt be doing any work really, just holding sockets open and maybe doing some auth... which is the same job as an LB | 22:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: aroo? | 22:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: trying to sort that out now | 22:24 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: you're assuming the same per-connection footprint on LB and LP | 22:25 |
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| clarkb | mordred: oh hrm this may be related to restarting nodepool | 22:25 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: Yes. People do it differently? Otherwise youre implementing app logic in youre queueing system... | 22:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: but I have no idea yet | 22:26 |
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| clarkb | mordred: spot checks show only bare-trusty is affected | 22:26 |
| clarkb | oh no devstack-trusty too | 22:27 |
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| clarkb | this is the weirdest thing | 22:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah - it doesn't look like it's having any issues with anything I'd expect it to have issues with | 22:27 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I'm so thrilled it logs the request-id and not the image-id | 22:28 |
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| lifeless | greghaynes: so variables. SSL-SSL / SSL-to-LP / SSL-at-border | 22:29 |
| clarkb | nova image-list | grep uuid for the bare-trusty images should them in hpcloud | 22:29 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: M:N multiplexing to LP from LB | 22:29 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: I'm not sure I follow your logic either. Loadbalancers do long connections already with keepalives and sessions on HTTPS. The job of the loadbalancer is to find the least-busy server on the backend, which will not be easy for clients to take on if you just feed them a list of servers and ask them to RR to them. | 22:29 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: backend connection footprint (e.g. rabbit) and is that 1:1 or M:N | 22:29 |
| clarkb | mordred: also nodes are going ready | 22:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: so this isn't a everything is completely broken state best I can tell | 22:30 |
| clarkb | definitely odd | 22:30 |
| mordred | clarkb: so it's possibly a clouds-are-breaking state that was happening before the restart too? | 22:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya possible | 22:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: odd that rax and hpcloud are both affected though | 22:30 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: a 16GB server should be able to run 100K LP sessions with stock HTTP, back of envelope. | 22:30 |
| clarkb | and yes what a useless exception | 22:30 |
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| lifeless | greghaynes: (for the LB case, using SSL unwrap + re-wrap, 1:1 to backend) | 22:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. it was occuring before | 22:31 |
| mordred | debug.log.2015-05-28_10:BadRequest: Can not find requested image (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-f92e8e10-6809-46d4-b584-869b55957608) | 22:31 |
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| clarkb | ok cool I won't worry about it like everything is on fire then | 22:32 |
| clarkb | will keep digging though | 22:32 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: lifeless so for SSL termination is usefulish - but what ends up happening is you run out of more ram on the LB than the LP server because of the ssl context, so its actually backwards loadbalancing. In theory yes you could design a system where you LP server is doing some work but thats a wierd way to do it not sure why you would want to | 22:32 |
| greghaynes | lifeless: oh, only 100k? for a public cloud id expect that number to be much bigger | 22:33 |
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| lifeless | greghaynes: 100K active sessions per server... | 22:33 |
| jroll | greghaynes: this would only be for active actions, right? I doubt any public clouds build 100k instances simultaneously | 22:34 |
| greghaynes | its for whatever derp leaves open a connection | 22:34 |
| greghaynes | I dunno, maybe it is less of on issue here, for websites its a huge issue | 22:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: I wonder if we are running into networking problems, I notice that the time to fail on those requests is really really small | 22:34 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: AWS had 1M customers late last year. So 11 boxes to run /all/ LP for /all/ their customers | 22:35 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I wonder if we should learn about and trap for that error in some way - maybe do a single retry if we get it or something | 22:35 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: so, I think you need to get into specific citations of problems, also we should probably switch channel.. | 22:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: I mean, I'm jumping to conclusions | 22:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: but it's certainly a thing we're not really accounting for currently | 22:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: I say that because Ithink we are doing large imag uploads right now too | 22:35 |
| clarkb | and we do have BW limits | 22:35 |
| mordred | ooooh | 22:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh - you konw what else? | 22:36 |
| lifeless | greghaynes: all I know is that in my prior life engaged with ops of a medium size website, with many millions of hits/day, we had no issue and the # of FE's we had was entirely due to redundancy needs, not performance. | 22:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: did we add in the extra image parameters that are needed on rax? | 22:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: good point I think not | 22:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: we need config drive and hvm | 22:37 |
| clarkb | I will write that now | 22:37 |
| mordred | yah | 22:37 |
| mordred | well, and also the other things | 22:37 |
| clarkb | oh I think config drive is covered | 22:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: what other things? | 22:37 |
| mordred | one sec | 22:37 |
| mordred | clarkb: vm_mode: hvm | 22:38 |
| mordred | that's one | 22:38 |
| mordred | xenapi_use_agent: false | 22:39 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's the other | 22:39 |
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| anteaya | fungi: any idea where we are on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186202/ ? clarkb did you have any thoughts? | 22:39 |
| anteaya | did we move in a different direction last night? | 22:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: thanks | 22:39 |
| mordred | clarkb: I need to step out for 10 minutes - back in a sec | 22:40 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I am not familiar with that change | 22:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: also, I'm totally going to add those two params somewhere in the vendor file for oscc - because blerg | 22:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: sorry I thought you were, last night we discovered that the irc-meeting job was posting the ical output as a jenkins job log | 22:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: we are trying to get the actual jenkins job log available as a comment link when the test completes | 22:41 |
| anteaya | the ical output and the file swift creates are the same name | 22:41 |
| clarkb | mordred: ++ | 22:41 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:41 |
| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 22:42 |
| clarkb | anteaya: gotcha we upload an index.html so apache happily serves it as an index page | 22:42 |
| anteaya | I'm trying to figure out the status of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186202/ | 22:42 |
| clarkb | which then doesn't navigate to console.html | 22:42 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yes | 22:42 |
| anteaya | not so much no | 22:42 |
| clarkb | mordred: should xenapi_use_agent have a string value false or a python False value? | 22:42 |
| * clarkb pushes assuming python False value and we can go from there | 22:43 | |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce an experimental job for Linux Bridge https://review.openstack.org/184830 | 22:43 |
| jeblair | clarkb, mordred, fungi, anteaya: I'm executing the group switcheroo in 186217 | 22:43 |
| jeblair | should be _mostly_ transparent | 22:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Set rax image metadata properly https://review.openstack.org/186587 | 22:44 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: okay | 22:44 |
| anteaya | should be lots of fun | 22:44 |
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| j^2 | AJaeger: any thougts on this error? http://logs.openstack.org/32/186532/6/check/gate-project-config-projects-yaml/2efb36b/console.html | 22:50 |
| j^2 | that’s a new one :( | 22:50 |
| clarkb | mordred: I am not convinced that our code for setting the metadata is correct | 22:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Cleanup gerrit ACLs: remove unneccary "refs/heads/stable" https://review.openstack.org/181660 | 22:51 |
| clarkb | mordred: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/nodepool/tree/nodepool/provider_manager.py#n500 we pass **meta as kwargs to shade's create_image | 22:51 |
| clarkb | mordred: but I think we need **{'metadata': meta} there | 22:51 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ^ this may be familiar code to you | 22:52 |
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| greghaynes | ugh, that | 22:55 |
| greghaynes | I remember making that change, I dont remember all the details | 22:55 |
| clarkb | I don't think it will break nodepool, but Ithink shade/glanceclient will just ignore the vm_mode and use_xen_api kwargs | 22:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Merge openstack-doc tool ACLs https://review.openstack.org/181656 | 22:56 |
| clarkb | but anymore the only way to test this is to use a real cloud because nothing is documented | 22:56 |
| clarkb | thankfully I have one of those set up by devstack and can give it a go | 22:56 |
| greghaynes | yea, but for some reasoin I want to say that it used to be meta= and I changed it after reading glanceclient | 22:56 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ya but now its shade | 22:56 |
| greghaynes | ah | 22:56 |
| clarkb | anyways spinning up nodepool in devstacklandia | 22:57 |
| clarkb | should have concrete answer in a bit | 22:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: you should not need to pass in **{'metadata': meta} | 22:58 |
| mordred | because if you do that's crazy | 22:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: my reading of glanceclient is it expects a metadata kwarg | 22:58 |
| clarkb | mordred: you can't just pass in a flat set of args that are implicitly metadata | 22:58 |
| mordred | it's actually different between v1 and v2 | 22:58 |
| mordred | which is why Im saying I believe we handle it for you in shade | 22:59 |
| clarkb | mordred: let me reread shade | 22:59 |
| clarkb | also WHY | 22:59 |
| clarkb | (my testing says I need to stringify false fwiw) | 22:59 |
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| mordred | look at update_image_properties | 23:00 |
| clarkb | I don't see shade explicitly handling metadata in any way | 23:00 |
| mordred | it's not called metadata. they're called properties | 23:00 |
| mordred | and you'll see in v1 it's in an arg called properties and in v2 it's flat | 23:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: looking at glanceclient its call metadata | 23:01 |
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| mordred | clarkb: you and I are looking at somethign different in glanceclient then | 23:02 |
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| mordred | properties = filters.pop('properties', {}) | 23:02 |
| mordred | that's from glanceclient | 23:02 |
| clarkb | hrm the metadat I see is for locations in v2/images.py | 23:02 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I still don't see the word metadata anywhere in there except for comments | 23:03 |
| clarkb | add_location() | 23:04 |
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| mordred | ah. I don't think we use that anywhere | 23:04 |
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| clarkb | and update_location. whatever a location is has metadata I guess that is not an image despite being in images.py | 23:04 |
| mordred | right | 23:05 |
| mordred | you want to look at def update( and def create( | 23:05 |
| mordred | in v1 and v2 | 23:05 |
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| clarkb | lol TODO(bcwaldon): document accepted paramd | 23:07 |
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| jeblair | are you allowed to quit with TODOs still in your name? | 23:07 |
| clarkb | if it wssnt all kwargs at least you would have the function def | 23:07 |
| clarkb | but no its all kwargs | 23:07 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah. | 23:07 |
| clarkb | this is amazing | 23:08 |
| mordred | clarkb: well - the story goes like this - in v1, for most additional properties, you passthem as a kwarg called 'properties' | 23:08 |
| clarkb | ya I see that now | 23:08 |
| mordred | in v2 any unknown kwarg is treated as a property | 23:08 |
| mordred | there are a few things in v1 that have to go in as kwargs and not properties | 23:09 |
| mordred | because yay! | 23:09 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Update more infra project ACLs https://review.openstack.org/186595 | 23:09 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I do have a v1 image upload running against devstack now | 23:12 |
| mordred | clarkb: good luck with that | 23:13 |
| clarkb | and I need to change my foo: false to foo: 'false' | 23:13 |
| clarkb | let me do that before I forget | 23:13 |
| mordred | that saddens me | 23:13 |
| mordred | Shrews: ^^ | 23:13 |
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| clarkb | mordred: well it may be nodepools fault | 23:13 |
| mordred | Shrews: we should figure out how to do the righter thing if it's not nodepool's fault | 23:13 |
| clarkb | I think nodepool is enforcing string types on the metadata which makes sense | 23:13 |
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| clarkb | (kind of I think it all gets coerced back to json again anyways | 23:14 |
| mordred | AH | 23:14 |
| mordred | yah. it should just work | 23:14 |
| jeblair | anteaya: if you are around can you review/aprv 186595? | 23:14 |
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| jeblair | wow that was fast :) | 23:15 |
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| anteaya | :) | 23:15 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I am getting 500 errors with devstack and glance logs are basically empty | 23:17 |
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| clarkb | mordred: yup looks like that was it, something to keep in mind for potential nodepool testing with devstack | 23:18 |
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| clarkb | hrm no still 500 erroring | 23:20 |
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| anteaya | looks like it failed on a zuul cloner timeout | 23:22 |
| anteaya | I'll recheck | 23:22 |
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| pabelanger | After a day of fighting, I have a local ubuntu-trusty dib. Tomorrow I'll be able to start some basic package testing | 23:34 |
| mordred | yay! | 23:34 |
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| harlowja | oh oh, periodic request for review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171393/ | 23:34 |
| harlowja | someone wants to do that :-P | 23:34 |
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| fungi | clarkb: actually last time i had to give a crap, f5 bigip licensing was on ssl transactions a second (and was 25kps base, 100kps at first license tier) | 23:41 |
| fungi | so long-running connections were actually less costly to your ssl offload licensing than short-lived ones | 23:41 |
| clarkb | fungi: hrm I remember there being the base 50k total then $$$ on top for anything more | 23:42 |
| fungi | er, my numbers are way off. it may have been more like 0.5ktps | 23:43 |
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| fungi | but anyway, it was transaction rate (i.e., new ssl handshake negotiations per second), not number of established sockets | 23:43 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ok finally got my devstack test bed working again. My change lgtm based on that | 23:46 |
| clarkb | mordred: it wants to be a string and that appears to get into the image properties | 23:46 |
| mordred | woot | 23:46 |
| mordred | I'm confident in shade past that point | 23:46 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: which change? | 23:47 |
| mordred | so if you got props to shade from nodepool and it worked in v1 - I think it'll work for v2 too | 23:47 |
| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186587/ that one | 23:47 |
| clarkb | mordred: it has jeblairs +2 | 23:47 |
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| mordred | +A | 23:48 |
| mordred | clarkb, greghaynes: I want to put those into vendors.py for rax under a flag like "agentless-image-flags" or something | 23:48 |
| mordred | but I havent' gotten there yet | 23:48 |
| fungi | clarkb: if you build new images, beware that 161414 broke us on new images today (i deleted them soon after) and hopefully 186449 fixed it but we won't know for certain | 23:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh, thanks, and sorry :( | 23:49 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think only ubuntu-trusty is building which isn't used anywhere yet. Its basically a can this boot test | 23:49 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: ^ thanks! :) | 23:50 |
| mordred | clarkb, fungi: did ubuntu-trusty everboot fully on hp? | 23:50 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes after you released glean it did | 23:51 |
| greghaynes | \O/ | 23:51 |
| mordred | woot! | 23:51 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think | 23:51 |
| mordred | by god if this all works I'm going to have a drink | 23:51 |
| mordred | and if this all doensn't work ... I'm going to have a drink | 23:51 |
| anteaya | I think you will have a drink anyhow | 23:51 |
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| anteaya | right | 23:51 |
| mordred | anteaya: ah how you know me | 23:51 |
| anteaya | I do | 23:51 |
| clarkb | yup two ready in hpcloud which can't happen without networking | 23:51 |
| jeblair | mordred: 'everboot' sounds like the johnson&johnson version of a boot agent | 23:51 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 23:52 |
| mordred | ++ | 23:52 |
| anteaya | with microbeads | 23:52 |
| jeblair | 'everboot: now with glean!' | 23:53 |
| SpamapS | and retsin | 23:53 |
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| anteaya | recommended by 9 out of 10 dentists | 23:56 |
| adam_g | any project-config'ers got a min to review addition of some new jobs to stackforge/akanda pipelines? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182391/ would be much appreciated! | 23:58 |
| clarkb | fungi: jeblair for that change that broke things do we have a fix or do we need to not make images tomorrow? | 23:58 |
| * clarkb is happy to go help fix it now | 23:58 | |
| jeblair | clarkb: my read from fungi is that 186449 is the expected fix and is merged | 23:58 |
| fungi | clarkb: on the f5 ssl licensing thing, not sure if it was before your time but the original pricing was because you had to plug in and enable additional ssl offload processor cards in bigip 4 and earlier appliances. when they finally got to the point where they sold with way more main cpu than they needed, the ssl offload limits were enforced in software to maintain the pricing scheme | 23:59 |
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