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| clarkb | it ia not launchpad. why would it be launchpad? | 00:08 |
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| prometheanfire | because other things are | 00:10 |
| prometheanfire | was just curious | 00:10 |
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| clarkb | gotcha (wasnt sure if I missed something that made it look like lp was hosting it for us) | 00:28 |
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| prometheanfire | nah | 00:42 |
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| MatthewLi3 | hi is the tempest project included in this channel? | 03:56 |
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| MatthewLi3 | I faced some problems when installing tempest in a VM as the 3rd test tool to my openstack cloud, is the tempest inclued in this channel? | 04:02 |
| MatthewLi3 | I haven't found a channel associated with tempest in openstack's home page | 04:02 |
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| notmyname | MatthewLi3: check out #opentack-qa | 04:07 |
| MatthewLi3 | thx | 04:07 |
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| MatthewLi3 | I am afraid it's not, by now, there's only me in #openstack-qa | 04:08 |
| notmyname | check your typing | 04:09 |
| StevenK | notmyname: And yours, since you said opentack :-) | 04:09 |
| MatthewLi3 | yep,... | 04:09 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 04:10 |
| notmyname | StevenK: oops | 04:10 |
| notmyname | opentack: for all your horse riding needs. opensack: for when you need to hold stuff. openstack: somethingsomething cloud | 04:10 |
| notmyname | opensnack: good times | 04:11 |
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| notmyname | MatthewLi3: sorry about the typo I gave you there | 04:11 |
| MatthewLi3 | notmyname: it's fine, thx for your kind help | 04:13 |
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| StevenK | pleia2: I've finished the script that uses the Zanata REST API to query/create projects -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/251969/ is the current output. I've not given it free reign yet, it only created the nova project. | 07:09 |
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| flip214 | fungi: ping? | 07:23 |
| StevenK | pleia2: Next plan is to take what I've learnt from that script and update the in-progress project-config branch | 07:23 |
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| GheRivero | morning all | 08:03 |
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| vikram | hi | 08:39 |
| vikram | Can someone plz help in answering me: "I want to create a new stackforge project. How to go about it?" | 08:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: update akanda https://review.openstack.org/187079 | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add meeting_id and agenda_url support https://review.openstack.org/186184 | 08:45 |
| ttx | fungi: when you have a minute, please add tonyb to irc-meetings-core at https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/485,members | 08:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add index page generation timestamp https://review.openstack.org/186701 | 08:45 |
| flip214 | vikram: you need to add to openstack-infra/project-config | 08:48 |
| vikram | ok ... do we need any special permission | 08:49 |
| vikram | or anyone can add? | 08:49 |
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| electrical | vikram: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html that should have all the info you need. | 08:52 |
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| vikram | Thanks let me try | 08:52 |
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| AJaeger | ttx: can't you add tonyb yourself? You should have the permissions, don't you? | 08:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable Heat services for functional tests https://review.openstack.org/182974 | 08:58 |
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| ttx | AJaeger: maybe I should, but I don't :) | 08:59 |
| AJaeger | ttx, let's fungi figure that one out. My understanding of gerrit is that you should ;) | 09:00 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: help, please. | 09:01 |
| ttx | AJaeger: owner is set to infra-ptl, maybe that's why ? | 09:01 |
| flip214 | the devstack plugin that I put into project-config has the wrong name - it doesn't match the typical naming scheme. | 09:02 |
| AJaeger | flip214: what's up? | 09:02 |
| AJaeger | flip214: which change? | 09:02 |
| AJaeger | ttx: No idea ;( | 09:02 |
| flip214 | therefore check-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd-devstack says "must not git clone" | 09:02 |
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| flip214 | and now I have to change the job template for that job | 09:02 |
| flip214 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178049/ | 09:02 |
| AJaeger | flip214: the job template is in the project-config repository | 09:03 |
| flip214 | I got http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/devstack-gate.yaml#n1934 as a hint. | 09:03 |
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| flip214 | so, I just copy the job-template, and change the "export DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG" line? | 09:03 |
| flip214 | what's the correct name for the new job template? | 09:04 |
| AJaeger | What should be the new content for that line? | 09:04 |
| AJaeger | ah, you want to change devstack-plugin-{plugin} to drbd-devstack? | 09:04 |
| flip214 | well, "drbd-devstack" isn't the same as "devstack-plugin-drbd", so I have to fix some line somewhere. | 09:05 |
| AJaeger | flip214: consider giving an additional parameter to the template - let's say "{plugin-repo}" and use that | 09:06 |
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| AJaeger | So, you need to change jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml as well for all the usages of the template | 09:06 |
| flip214 | plugin-repo should be passed in anyway, I thought? | 09:06 |
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| AJaeger | alternative is to rename your repository to devestack-plugin-drbd but that will take some time since renames need to be scheduled. | 09:07 |
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| AJaeger | flip214: so, if plugin-repo is there already... | 09:07 |
| AJaeger | Let me check the usage | 09:08 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: yes, "weeks". which will make us miss the Cinder June 12th deadline. | 09:08 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: | 09:08 |
| flip214 | http://logs.openstack.org/49/178049/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd-devstack/02c720c/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz | 09:08 |
| flip214 | says "2015-05-22 20:13:07.136 | + git_clone git://git.openstack.org/stackforge/drbd-devstack /opt/stack/new/devstack-plugin-drbd-devstack master" | 09:08 |
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| flip214 | so the git URL is correct | 09:08 |
| AJaeger | flip214: but plugin-repo is set like "plugin-repo: stackforge/devstack-plugin-sheepdog" | 09:08 |
| AJaeger | But you need it without the stackforge in front. | 09:08 |
| AJaeger | flip214: Please discuss with fungi or clarkb this afternoon (US mornings) in more detail what's the best way forward | 09:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding Maven3 Builder Targets https://review.openstack.org/179605 | 09:09 |
| AJaeger | Adding another paramter like "base-plugin-repo" might be one way | 09:09 |
| AJaeger | Sorry, have to leave now | 09:09 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: I discussed that already: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-05-27.log.html#t2015-05-27T16:43:30 | 09:10 |
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| AJaeger | flip214: so, you can duplicate the template and specialize it for your project - see the next entry: '{pipeline}-tempest-dsvm-full-glusterfs{branch-designator}' | 09:34 |
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| AJaeger | just copy the original one and send a review - and then let me give specific instructions on how to improve it | 09:35 |
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| maishsk | AJaeger: mind if I ask a (perhaps stupid) question? | 09:37 |
| AJaeger | maishsk: go ahead | 09:37 |
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| maishsk | when commenting on a review (that I did not submit) should I receive notification for all subsequent comments? | 09:37 |
| * maishsk trying to figure out how gerrit works … | 09:38 | |
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| AJaeger | maishsk: If your name is listed in the review - like on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186638/ - you should receive an email | 09:39 |
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| maishsk | That is what I thought - so I am not receiving subsequent emails. | 09:41 |
| * maishsk digs into gmail filters with a sledgehammer…. | 09:41 | |
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| flip214 | AJaeger: thank you very much. Had a merge conflict, but here it is: | 09:42 |
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| * maishsk has removed the offending filter - all is now good in paradise - thanks AJaeger for your help | 09:45 | |
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| AJaeger | Glad to hear, maishsk ! | 09:46 |
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| AJaeger | flip214: don't make it that generic. Let it be specific for drbd | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Check for commitMessage on zuul trigger https://review.openstack.org/187144 | 09:47 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: okay, now using "{pipeline}-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd{branch-designator}" | 09:47 |
| openstackgerrit | garyk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: vmware-nsx: move from stackforge/ to openstack/ https://review.openstack.org/184558 | 09:48 |
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| garyk | AJaeger: i have addressed your comment in ^. i think that the section is ok as they are in alphabetical order - unless I missed something | 09:55 |
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| AJaeger | garyk: currently your project is in the Stackforge section, it should be in OpenStack section. | 09:57 |
| AJaeger | garyk: both zuul/layout.yaml and project.yaml are sorted by sections and alphabetically in sections. | 09:57 |
| AJaeger | garyk: you had to move the entry in zuul/layout.yaml since that "key" contains "stackforge" - for projects.yaml stackforge is not included, so no renaming needed. Just for easier finding, you have to put it in the right section | 09:58 |
| AJaeger | garyk: does that help? | 09:58 |
| garyk | AJaeger: yes, thanks | 09:59 |
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| flip214 | AJaeger: any more feedback for now, or should I push with only the name changed? | 09:59 |
| AJaeger | flip214: did you see my review comments in gerrit? There were some more... | 10:00 |
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| flip214 | ah, okay. | 10:01 |
| garyk | AJaeger: in zuul/layout.yaml the stackforge section start at line 4910 - the code i added is in line 2201. what am i missing? sorry | 10:01 |
| AJaeger | garyk: shall I take over and do the change for you? | 10:02 |
| garyk | AJaeger: if you could that would be great as I am clueless | 10:02 |
| AJaeger | sorry for explaining so badly, garyk | 10:02 |
| garyk | AJaeger: i think it is me and not you :) | 10:03 |
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| AJaeger | garyk: you placed it in zuul/layout.yaml between tuskar and zaqar. In jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml it should be there as well... | 10:04 |
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| AJaeger | compare my change with your latest | 10:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: vmware-nsx: move from stackforge/ to openstack/ https://review.openstack.org/184558 | 10:04 |
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| garyk | AJaeger: thanks! | 10:09 |
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| samueldmq | morning | 10:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | vikram.choudhary proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding neutron-qos project to stackforge https://review.openstack.org/187170 | 10:56 |
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| dtantsur | hi folks! am I the only one for whom etherpad.o.o does not save anything? | 10:59 |
| samueldmq | dtantsur, checking .. | 11:00 |
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| samueldmq | dtantsur, I think it is working pretty well for me https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/hello-world | 11:02 |
| dtantsur | hmmm | 11:02 |
| dtantsur | lemme check with this etherpad | 11:02 |
| samueldmq | dtantsur, yes, write somehting in there | 11:03 |
| dtantsur | it's still opening... weird | 11:03 |
| dtantsur | samueldmq, ok, seems like it was due to new tracking protection option in Firefox. Looks like etherpad is doing something nasty :) thanks | 11:05 |
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| flip214 | AJaeger: thanks for your help. | 11:06 |
| flip214 | what do I do about "Job check-tempest-dsvm-full-drbd-devstack not defined" in http://logs.openstack.org/52/187152/2/check/gate-project-config-layout/2d43246/console.html | 11:07 |
| samueldmq | dtantsur, np, have a good week | 11:07 |
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| russellb | lifeless: looks like pkg_resources doesn't know how to parse the platform specific entry for win32 in requirements.txt -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187055/ guess I should file a bug against setuptools? | 11:57 |
| fungi | ttx: AJaeger: yeah, i think we need to confirm with corvus once he's awake, but since he's set as the group owner we should probably let him formally delegate core reviewer status to tonyb for that repo (if he wants) under the new council model | 11:58 |
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| flip214 | AJaeger: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187152/ got SUCCESS now ... | 12:07 |
| flip214 | fungi: would you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187152/, too, and tell me whether that's okay? | 12:07 |
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| electrical | fungi: good morning sir | 12:09 |
| HenryG | I am experiencing gerrit slowness. Is it just me? | 12:09 |
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| fungi | flip214: will do once i'm done ramping up for the morning | 12:16 |
| fungi | electrical: and good afternoon to you | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Davide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP list/search/get https://review.openstack.org/183496 | 12:17 |
| fungi | HenryG: not that i've noticed, but i'm pretty slow at the moment too | 12:17 |
| flip214 | fungi: thank you | 12:17 |
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| AJaeger | flip214: One suggestion: It would be nice to change the commit message of your change to make it clearer what you do... | 12:22 |
| AJaeger | morning, fungi ! | 12:22 |
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| flip214 | AJaeger: any suggestion? | 12:24 |
| electrical | AJaeger: morning | 12:24 |
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| TheJulia | ÛÛ/win 11 | 12:26 |
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| AJaeger | flip214: Change "New job template to run tempest tests." to "Add devstack-drbd specific template for tempest" ? | 12:27 |
| AJaeger | Good afternoon, electrical ! | 12:27 |
| flip214 | ah yeah, right. it's not that generic anymore. | 12:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Ph. Marek proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add devstack-drbd specific template for tempest https://review.openstack.org/187152 | 12:29 |
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| HenryG | fungi: thanks for checking. For me it's getting worse. Maybe I am special. I feel so special. | 12:38 |
| electrical | HenryG: it feels a bit slower then normal indeed ( Gerrit ) | 12:39 |
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| flip214 | drbdsetup-84 resource-options drbd-ramdrive --set-defaults --cpu-mask=10101010000000000 | 12:50 |
| flip214 | sorry for the noise | 12:50 |
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| ttx | fungi, jeblair: looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185785/ is not working as expected | 12:54 |
| ttx | I pushed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184552/ and it's not getting processed | 12:54 |
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| boris-42 | AJaeger: hi | 12:58 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: hi | 13:00 |
| fungi | ttx: corvus: 2015-06-01 12:29:38,694 DEBUG zuul.DependentPipelineManager: Change <Change 0x7f86983ae550 184552,1> can not merge, ignoring | 13:01 |
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| ttx | fungi: it's not just that one FTR, it's all the onies I tried to approve this morning | 13:01 |
| fungi | ttx: corvus: when i elevate my gerrit privs, i see there's a code-review "+2 Unused +2" and "-2 Unused -2" option | 13:01 |
| fungi | so it must be inheriting that additiona vote range from somewhere | 13:02 |
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| fungi | basically gerrit still thinks it must be possible to code-review +2 that change, and since nobody has, it considers it unready to merge | 13:03 |
| ttx | even if it's NoOp? meh | 13:03 |
| boris-42 | fungi: could you point me where gerrit submit rules are described? | 13:04 |
| boris-42 | fungi: and is it possible to make custom submit rules per porject?) | 13:04 |
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| fungi | boris-42: yes, https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/config-labels.html | 13:05 |
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| fungi | boris-42: though, irony, we're just now discussing how that' | 13:05 |
| fungi | s apparently not working for the governance repo | 13:05 |
| boris-42 | fungi: lol=) | 13:05 |
| boris-42 | fungi: give me a moment to read that document | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | will soula proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for the Naginator Plugin https://review.openstack.org/179366 | 13:07 |
| fungi | ttx: i'm thinking https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=openstack/governance.git;a=commitdiff;h=93c0f2a95a8a0f7ab2db123b3882da5ac0573ff3 may be the problem | 13:07 |
| fungi | ttx: i believe that was done to make it display -1 and +1 rather than a red X and a green check-mark | 13:08 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: so it is possible even to add more columns (code review / verified/ something else ... ) | 13:09 |
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| fungi | boris-42: yeah, examples look like https://review.openstack.org/186960 and https://review.openstack.org/184552 | 13:11 |
| ttx | fungi: yeah, probably safe to revert that and see | 13:11 |
| boris-42 | fungi: niccce | 13:11 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: so what I would like is to have maintainers of plugins | 13:12 |
| boris-42 | fungi: like if patch touches just some specific paths then it can be merged by these mainters without cores | 13:12 |
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| fungi | boris-42: having it be specific to particular path expressions _may_ be doable with some custom prolog rules, but it's not something we've tried nor am i sure it's something we would choose to support | 13:13 |
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| fungi | boris-42: better to just use separate git repos for those, then you get implicit separation of access controls | 13:14 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: so I am in such position when it's to early to split but we have bunch of people working on plugins and we should improve throughput=) | 13:15 |
| AJaeger | boris-42: can't you solve this socially? Tell them they have limited control and trust them... | 13:16 |
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| AJaeger | boris-42: If it does not work, you can change ;) | 13:16 |
| fungi | or treat their +1 on their particular plugin path as a +2 and approve it if they've voted in favor of the change | 13:16 |
| boris-42 | fungi: AJaeger so actually we can create just maintainers column | 13:17 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: AJaeger add new group | 13:17 |
| boris-42 | fungi: AJaeger and if I see plus +1 I can just merge patches | 13:17 |
| boris-42 | fungi: AJaeger half social half automated=) | 13:17 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: btw why do you have this https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/gerrit/acls/openstack-infra/infra-specs.config#L7 ? | 13:24 |
| boris-42 | fungi: I mean separated lable for existing code-review? | 13:25 |
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| fungi | boris-42: so that we can switch the function to NoOp | 13:26 |
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| fungi | boris-42: that's supposed to make it so that it's no longer considered when deciding whether or not a change is ready to merge | 13:27 |
| boris-42 | fungi: ah ok | 13:27 |
| fungi | i'm still diggin ginto why that doesn't seem to be working | 13:27 |
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| boris-42 | fungi: btw can rally have few acl groups? | 13:28 |
| boris-42 | fungi: I really would like to have rally-ptl (for pushing tags) and rally-plugin maintainers | 13:28 |
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| fungi | boris-42: yeah, additional gerrit groups for a project is fine. for example oslo has an oslo-core group which is an included group in all the individual oslo repo core groups | 13:29 |
| AJaeger | boris-42: we use "-release" instead of "-ptl" nowadays | 13:29 |
| pabelanger | morning | 13:29 |
| AJaeger | boris-42: Just send patches for project-config/gerrit/acl/... | 13:29 |
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| fungi | yeah, "-ptl" confused people into thinking that only ptls should be allowed to push tags and that they shouldn't be able to delegate that capability. using "-release" makes it a little more obvious what the intent was | 13:30 |
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| boris-42 | AJaeger: fungi great | 13:30 |
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| AJaeger | good morning, pabelanger ! | 13:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wayne Warren proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Jenkins Job Builder 2.0.0 API Changes/Rewrite https://review.openstack.org/182542 | 13:33 |
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| electrical | waynr: morning bud | 13:33 |
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| fungi | ttx: corvus: looking at zuul.gerrit.Gerrit.canMerge() i wonder if when zuul's iterating through the label statuses from the submitRecords api call, it's not seeing an OK on the code-review label. curious whether it provides any additional metadata (such as the function for the label) we could add to the ignore qualifiers | 13:39 |
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| fungi | i'm going to try to recreate this situation on review-dev | 13:39 |
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| waynr | electrical: yo | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Improve Rally ACL rules https://review.openstack.org/187196 | 13:43 |
| boris-42 | fungi: AJaeger ^ here is it =) | 13:43 |
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| AJaeger | boris-42: change rally-ptl to rally-release as discussed above | 13:44 |
| AJaeger | you can still be the only one in that group ;) | 13:45 |
| boris-42 | AJaeger: oh yep that's better idea | 13:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Improve Rally ACL rules https://review.openstack.org/187196 | 13:46 |
| AJaeger | boris-42: the rest needs review by corvus and fungi... | 13:46 |
| mrmartin | re | 13:46 |
| boris-42 | AJaeger: okay I fixed that part=) | 13:46 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: do you know something about this openstackid-resources rpeo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176334/ ? I was talking with Sebastian before the summit, and seems to be he likes to split out some featureset from openstackid server. | 13:47 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: yes, apparently openstackid grew a bunch of functionality to support serving the "openstack marketplace" data | 13:48 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: when we raised concerns about non-auth-related scope expansion, moving that to a new api in a separate project was the least painless solution | 13:49 |
| fungi | er, least painful | 13:49 |
| mrmartin | great, but do we have any plans about the deployment model of this service? Move to a separate instance, or keep together with openstackid one? | 13:50 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: the goal is to keep openstackid limited to just an authentication/authorization api and interface, and other related bits can go in the openstack-id resources api service instead on a separate server | 13:50 |
| mrmartin | great, so it is based on the same laravel / php platform | 13:51 |
| fungi | mrmartin: that way, compromise of the resource api service can't be leveraged to take control of the authentication service | 13:51 |
| fungi | mrmartin: and yeah, we figured if they stuck to the same framework, then we could reuse a lot of the current puppetry | 13:51 |
| mrmartin | ok, I understand the goals here, then to going production we need to clone some form of openstackid puppets | 13:52 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: or we slightly generalize that existing module and have very lightweight classes for the different services which instantiate the main existing classes to reduce code duplication | 13:53 |
| fungi | mrmartin: whatever looks easier | 13:53 |
| mrmartin | ok, I can do a quick setup in a vagrant environment, to check what we have, and how this two services working together | 13:54 |
| mrmartin | one is consuming the API of the other one | 13:54 |
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| electrical | waynr: i've started on the Error naming convention and compiling a small doc for it | 13:55 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: if you have a little time, may I ask you to review the open askbot patchsets? (askbot-staging topic) | 13:57 |
| fungi | mrmartin: funny you should ask, i've just now added the hiera keys for it and am about to test it out | 13:58 |
| mrmartin | nibalizer made some comments, and I have questions too, but he seems to be on holiday or somewhere | 13:58 |
| fungi | as soon as my next meeting wraps up | 13:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Document the meaning of Signed-off-by https://review.openstack.org/187202 | 13:58 |
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| mrmartin | we checked this open sec issue too, but cannot reproduce, I write an email to original reporter to give us a POC at least | 13:59 |
| fungi | mrmartin: thanks for following up on that | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Improve Rally ACL rules https://review.openstack.org/187196 | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Document the meaning of Signed-off-by https://review.openstack.org/187202 | 14:00 |
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| fungi | russellb: thanks ;) | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: drop support for alpha releases https://review.openstack.org/186902 | 14:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: create missing milestones when releasing libraries https://review.openstack.org/186903 | 14:04 |
| russellb | fungi: np ;) | 14:04 |
| russellb | fungi: if that goes in, i'm going to start using s-o-b on all of my commits | 14:05 |
| fungi | russellb: you're... um... not the only one | 14:05 |
| russellb | ^_^ | 14:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add devstack-drbd specific template for tempest https://review.openstack.org/187152 | 14:08 |
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| sdague | fungi: I thought gerrit was patched for utf8 now | 14:09 |
| sdague | 🙌 seemed to trigger a 500 error when I tried to use it | 14:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: create missing milestones when releasing libraries https://review.openstack.org/186903 | 14:09 |
| flip214 | fungi: AJaeger: thanks for +[12], already merged. | 14:10 |
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| fungi | sdague: it's possible we have similar situations as etherpad with longer (24-32bit) values | 14:10 |
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| waynr | electrical: cool, ping me once there is a patch up on infra-specs | 14:11 |
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| electrical | waynr: will do | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerome Hourquebie proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Adds Cloudbees folder plugin support https://review.openstack.org/180185 | 14:13 |
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| AJaeger | flip214: get drbd working ;) | 14:15 |
| AJaeger | sdague: could you do again a nova translation import, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179638/ With my recent changes, the imports should be smaller but first this large in needs to go in... | 14:16 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: trying to... | 14:17 |
| sdague | AJaeger: done | 14:17 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: should the "recheck" comment work at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178049/ ? | 14:17 |
| flip214 | ah yes, I got an email now. | 14:17 |
| sdague | fungi: oh... that makes sense. The utf8 column type in mysql is actually only 3 bytes long. | 14:18 |
| AJaeger | thanks, sdague | 14:18 |
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| sdague | which... is a bit nutty | 14:18 |
| flip214 | AJaeger: but it gives the same error. do I have to re-push to get the new list of jobs used? | 14:18 |
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| flip214 | or even abandon that change and create a new one? | 14:18 |
| AJaeger | flip214: might have been a bit too early - we need 15 mins to update Jenkins after a merge... | 14:18 |
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| clarkb | sdague: the worst part is what it does if you give it a 3 byte character | 14:18 |
| clarkb | sdague: sorry 4 byte character | 14:18 |
| clarkb | it just silently truncates the rest of the string with no error | 14:19 |
| AJaeger | flip214: wait until 4:30 and then recheck again for Jenkins to be updated | 14:19 |
| fungi | sdague: there is apparently a separate column datatype for 4-byte text in newer mysql versions. not sure if it's something we can test soon on review-dev | 14:19 |
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| flip214 | AJaeger: ah, okay. thanks. | 14:19 |
| pabelanger | Is it just me or is review.o.o slow this morning? | 14:20 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: so far you and HenryG | 14:22 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: the server appears to be suffering from the memory leak that slows everything down | 14:22 |
| clarkb | and is spending ~10% of its time just garbage collecting | 14:22 |
| pabelanger | clarkb, anteaya: Roger. That will save me some time debugging a network issue then | 14:22 |
| anteaya | unless you want to | 14:23 |
| electrical | clarkb: nothing new with Gerrit. had that at one of my old jobs as well | 14:23 |
| anteaya | electrical: did you employ any useful means to address it? | 14:23 |
| electrical | anteaya: not really. just restart it when it gets a bit slowish | 14:24 |
| electrical | :-( | 14:24 |
| sdague | clarkb: is this something that can be programatically detected ? | 14:24 |
| sdague | instead of using meat-nagios | 14:24 |
| anteaya | electrical: okay thanks | 14:24 |
| sdague | because, if so, we could just have monit have a rule to restart under said conditions | 14:24 |
| clarkb | sdague: java melody knows about it so you just need permission to get that data I think | 14:25 |
| electrical | anteaya: we tried to tune it and try to find it but eventually gave up | 14:25 |
| clarkb | so yes? | 14:25 |
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| anteaya | electrical: :( | 14:25 |
| clarkb | not sure how that helps though, your options are restart server or give it more memory or update/fix all of which require meat space intervention | 14:25 |
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| yolanda | jhesketh, i saw your review about zuul | 14:26 |
| yolanda | in gerrit 2.4 we don't have that commitMessage available | 14:26 |
| sdague | clarkb: restart server requires human intervention? | 14:26 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: can we restart it during some time where it's somehow idle automatically? | 14:26 |
| electrical | or do a weekly cron job to restart it :p | 14:26 |
| yolanda | gerrit query returns something like that | 14:26 |
| yolanda | {"project":"hp/config","branch":"hp/gozer","id":"I961bc3773c2bc754b2a0c0d4dc3fd2358a76ff47","number":"68437","subject":"Sync with latest zuul layout.yaml in upstream","owner":{"name":"Yolanda Robla Mota","email":"yolanda.robla-mota@hp.com","username":"roblamot"},"url":"https://review.hpcloud.net/68437","createdOn":1433056979,"lastUpdated":1433062734,"sortKey":"003577ba00010b55","open":true,"status":"NEW","currentPatchSet":{"number":"1","revision | 14:26 |
| yolanda | ":"4d4cf7391c1d69b1d1b709813776286a0126df70","ref":"refs/changes/37/68437/1","uploader":{"name":"Yolanda Robla Mota","email":"yolanda.robla-mota@hp.com","username":"roblamot"},"createdOn":1433056979,"approvals":[{"type":"VRIF","description":"Verified","value":"1","grantedOn":1433062734,"by":{"name":"Zuul","email":"zuul@hpcloud.net","username":"jenkins"}}]}} | 14:26 |
| clarkb | sdague: yes | 14:26 |
| anteaya | so if any one wants to approve the new experimental test job for linuxbridge in neutron it is ready to go and mestery and russellb both like it too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184830/ | 14:27 |
| yolanda | so we cannot consume the latest zuul | 14:27 |
| mestery | anteaya: ++! | 14:27 |
| anteaya | mestery: :) | 14:27 |
| sdague | clarkb: hmmm ok | 14:27 |
| clarkb | sdague: we typically don't automate that as the preference is to fix the need for it in the first place (hope was upgrade (which failed for other reasons) would make this problem go away) | 14:27 |
| jhesketh | yolanda: so if it is missing then the other part of the code I highlighted will probably fail too | 14:27 |
| anteaya | yolanda: others will see you paste in channel and think it is okay if they do the same as you | 14:27 |
| jhesketh | yolanda: but it makes me think that the fix should be to load the commitmessage from elsewhere if that's the case | 14:27 |
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| jhesketh | yolanda: but I admit, I haven't looked closely into where it comes from | 14:28 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: yolanda is this gerrit 2.4 not supporting depends-on? I think the fix there is to upgrade gerrit/downgrade zuul? | 14:28 |
| yolanda | jhesketh, well, yes, my change will mean that we won't support depends-on | 14:28 |
| yolanda | but at least we can consume zuul | 14:28 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: Done | 14:29 |
| yolanda | clarkb, i know, the proper fix is upload gerrit | 14:29 |
| yolanda | but that's not trivial.. it's on the way | 14:29 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: it's re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187144/ .. I'm not convinced it's the right solution basically | 14:29 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: thank you | 14:29 |
| jhesketh | the commitmessage should be available somehow | 14:29 |
| jhesketh | but I'm not going hunting this time of night ;-) | 14:29 |
| yolanda | jhesketh, if we can grab commitmessage from somewhere else, i'd be glad to implement it | 14:29 |
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| anteaya | jhesketh: I'm surprised you are still up | 14:29 |
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| jhesketh | anteaya: heya | 14:30 |
| sdague | yolanda: there might be flags you need to provide to gerrit query to get it | 14:30 |
| anteaya | hey, get some sleep | 14:30 |
| jhesketh | winding down, so not around mcuh longer | 14:30 |
| jhesketh | *much even | 14:30 |
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| anteaya | jhesketh: not that I don't enjoy your company, I do, very much | 14:30 |
| yolanda | sdague, even on gerrit 2.4 ? | 14:30 |
| anteaya | but sleep, it has its good qualities | 14:31 |
| jhesketh | heh, agreed! | 14:31 |
| anteaya | :) | 14:31 |
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| yolanda | i was reading documentation of gerrit 2.4, and the stuff provided in the patchset entity was shorter than the one on gerrit 2.8 | 14:31 |
| sdague | yolanda: yeh, iirc gerrit query takes a bunch of flags to expand whats returned | 14:31 |
| sdague | but, it's hard to figure out without a live 2.4 | 14:31 |
| yolanda | let me double check the gerrit config and compare with upstream | 14:31 |
| sdague | but I'd suggest looking at 'gerry query -h' | 14:32 |
| jhesketh | did zuul ever support gerrit 2.4? | 14:32 |
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| jhesketh | there's possibly other things missing | 14:32 |
| sdague | and figure out if some of the other --flags expose the info | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | fungi: could you take a look at patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187196/2 I did it similar to infra-specs | 14:32 |
| jhesketh | makes me think that we should set a min gerrit version | 14:32 |
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| sdague | jhesketh: yes, that was what we were running a year ago | 14:32 |
| yolanda | jhesketh, we are running zuul on gerrit 2.4 :) | 14:32 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: ya I think your comments are correct. My point was that fixing zuul seems expensive compared to using older zuul which did support 2.4 or using newer gerrit which current zuul supports | 14:32 |
| sdague | or slightly longer, I don't remember | 14:32 |
| jhesketh | sdague: yeah, looking at the releases of gerrit, it's likely we did... I don't have when we updated gerrit though | 14:33 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: I agree | 14:33 |
| jhesketh | so I'm wondering if we should set a min gerrit version on zuul simply because the majority of development has not been tested against older gerrits | 14:33 |
| sdague | we upgraded about a year ago - https://dague.net/2014/04/30/helpful-gerrit-queries-gerrit-2-8-edition/ | 14:33 |
| sdague | I wrote that after the upgrade happened | 14:34 |
| yolanda | mm, sdague, i don't see any relevant config on gerrit , on the manifest, to allow that extra queries | 14:34 |
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| sdague | yolanda: right, I'm not saying zuul knows how to do that | 14:34 |
| sdague | I'm saying that it's probably worth figuring out if there are flags you could do manually to get those fields | 14:34 |
| yolanda | sdague, i was thinking that in upstream maybe you have gerrit configured to do it | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit of ask-staging.o.o site https://review.openstack.org/172880 | 14:34 |
| yolanda | sdague, i don't think so | 14:35 |
| jhesketh | sdague: I remember the upgrade, but was that from 2.6 or 2.4 (my memory is not serving me well at the moment) | 14:35 |
| sdague | it was from 2.4 | 14:35 |
| yolanda | it returns commit message for changes | 14:35 |
| anteaya | 2.4 | 14:35 |
| yolanda | but not for patchsets | 14:35 |
| anteaya | we never ran 2.6 | 14:35 |
| jhesketh | ah, okay, that sounds familiar | 14:35 |
| * jhesketh recalls the big upgrade | 14:35 | |
| yolanda | so we are in the process of upgrading gerrit but still not done. That change i filed, is just a security check , doesn't hurt to check if key exists | 14:35 |
| yolanda | i know that we will be missing depends-on | 14:36 |
| yolanda | but at least we could sync zuul | 14:36 |
| sdague | yolanda: if if you add '--commit-message' ? | 14:36 |
| sdague | https://gerrit-documentation.googlecode.com/svn/Documentation/2.4.2/cmd-query.html | 14:36 |
| anteaya | ah dhellmann is up | 14:37 |
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| yolanda | let me check | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Expand on directions for creating drivers team https://review.openstack.org/187212 | 14:40 |
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| anteaya | dhellmann: reading your patch, I wonder about the guidance to use driver(s) in the documentation, there doesn't seem to be a lot of adherance to what is suggested: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/?filter=driver | 14:44 |
| anteaya | are the results consistent with your expecations of the use of driver(s)? | 14:44 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya: the release team needs lp acls to create series and milestones, and iiuc that's something the "drivers" associated with the project have. ttx or fungi may know better. | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-zuul: Fix wrong indent reported by recent puppet-lint https://review.openstack.org/185889 | 14:45 |
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| anteaya | the release team being you and ttx? | 14:46 |
| ttx | and stable branch release managers | 14:46 |
| fungi | dhellmann: anteaya: yeah, that's the "project drivers" permission in launchpad project configuration | 14:47 |
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| yolanda | sdague, you are right, if i pass that commit-message i can get it | 14:47 |
| anteaya | ah I see okay, sorry, so not limited to gerrit groups with driver(s) in the name of the group | 14:47 |
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| yolanda | i guess it should be by default on gerrit 2.8 ? | 14:48 |
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| clarkb | yolanda: or not supported at all, you should test that | 14:48 |
| anteaya | fungi ttx dhellmann thanks for the clarification | 14:48 |
| yolanda | sure | 14:48 |
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| jhesketh | okay I'm off. Night all! | 14:49 |
| sdague | clarkb: it's still a flag in 2.8 | 14:49 |
| sdague | I'm not sure how it changes the payload | 14:49 |
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| matrohon | hi all : we'd like to have our first bgpvpn meeting tomorrow in an available openstack-meeting* room | 14:49 |
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| matrohon | do we only have to use "start-meeting" to have log availbale in eavesdrop? | 14:50 |
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| yolanda | mm, weird thing, that is passed on the gerrit query | 14:50 |
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| yolanda | already in the code | 14:50 |
| yolanda | let me check the payload carefully | 14:51 |
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| anteaya | jhesketh: night | 14:51 |
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| anteaya | matrohon: see if you find anything useful here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CreateaMeeting | 14:52 |
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| dkranz | clarkb: I got a "This change depends on a change that failed to merge" on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183700/ which surprised me. Am I using depends-on incorrectly? | 14:54 |
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| matrohon | anteaya : thanks! | 14:55 |
| anteaya | matrohon: welcome | 14:55 |
| yolanda | sdague, clarkb, can there be any situation where gerrit is not returning the commit message? i have logged the payload from today, and the one from yesterday, using same query, and they are different | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce an experimental job for Linux Bridge https://review.openstack.org/184830 | 14:56 |
| yolanda | is there any step on the workflow where commitMessage may not appear? | 14:56 |
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| yolanda | going to paste you both results | 14:56 |
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| clarkb | dkranz: I don't think you did anything wrong. I want to say this was a known race in querying gerrit for change info across projects? | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Add support for Folders Plugin https://review.openstack.org/187047 | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Allow 'MAY' in Gerrit submit records https://review.openstack.org/187224 | 14:57 |
| yolanda | http://paste.openstack.org/show/253071/ | 14:57 |
| clarkb | dkranz: try a recheck, if it happens again I can dig into logs | 14:57 |
| anteaya | dkranz: you uploaded both very close together | 14:57 |
| corvus | fungi, ttx: https://review.openstack.org/187224 | 14:57 |
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| yolanda | sdague, clarkb | 14:57 |
| yolanda | ^ | 14:57 |
| yolanda | that's different from same query, from yesterday and today | 14:57 |
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| fungi | corvus: thanks! that's what i was trying to work out playing with the api | 14:59 |
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| jeblair | fungi: "ssh review gerrit query 184552 --submit-records" | 14:59 |
| fungi | glad i finally zoomed in on the offending bit of the function at least ;) | 14:59 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, you pointed me right at it :) | 14:59 |
| ttx | jeblair: +1 | 15:00 |
| clarkb | yolanda: it may be a race between zuul querying the info and gerrit having the info available? | 15:00 |
| fungi | yep, confirmed that does appear to have a MAY status | 15:00 |
| yolanda | clarkb, i have the logs from yesterday, and happened consistently until i reverted zuul | 15:00 |
| yolanda | that's weird | 15:00 |
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| clarkb | gerrit is full of races and over eager caches | 15:01 |
| yolanda | :( | 15:01 |
| yolanda | going to test directly with zuul user | 15:01 |
| yolanda | maybe some restriction? | 15:01 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: I hit the acl issue with python-neutronclient, even though openstack-release is part of neutron-drivers. Do you have any idea what else we might need to update? | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | fungi: https://launchpad.net/python-neutronclient shows neutron-drivers as the driver and openstack-admins as the maintainer | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | fungi: here's the error I get: http://paste.openstack.org/show/253084/ | 15:03 |
| clarkb | yolanda: zuul does the query immediately after the patchset arrives as long as you don't have a large event backlog | 15:03 |
| mestery | fungi: Also, it would be good to make me an administrator of that LP group as well so I can clean it up, I noticed I'm not an admin there. | 15:03 |
| yolanda | mm, now i'm testing and i get the right commitmessage, from zuul instance | 15:04 |
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| yolanda | if it's a race, it's dangerous... | 15:05 |
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| fungi | mestery: switched your membership to admin status in that group | 15:08 |
| mestery | fungi: thank you! | 15:08 |
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| fungi | dhellmann: interesting. have you checked to see if it's allowed from the webui>? | 15:08 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: were you running zuul master yesterday? did it have commit 5241b883711a1d1eb864fd746b84e634c75d26f1 ("Delay Gerrit events by 5s") in it? | 15:09 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: there's no "create milestone" link on https://launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/liberty | 15:09 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, let me check, i'd say so | 15:09 |
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| jeblair | yolanda, clarkb: if so, it should actually process events 5s after receiving them from gerrit in order to give gerrit time to settle out things like dependencies; so the query should happen at least 5s after the event | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | fungi, mestery : could it be because mestery is listed as the "release manager" on https://launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/liberty? | 15:10 |
| fungi | dhellmann: hrm, looks like a series has its own separate project drivers and release manager | 15:10 |
| fungi | yeah, looks like you just spotted the same | 15:10 |
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| mestery | fungi dhellmann: Uh-oh! I'll fix that up. | 15:10 |
| fungi | dhellmann: can you compare to one you know works for you? | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | https://launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/liberty has no release manager set | 15:11 |
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| fungi | got it. and you were able to create a milestone? | 15:11 |
| mestery | dhellmann: I removed myself as release manager | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | nor does oslo.middleware, and that worked for me | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | ok, trying again... | 15:11 |
| fungi | presumably it inherits from the project driver | 15:11 |
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| dhellmann | that didn't do it :-( | 15:12 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, yes, that's included | 15:12 |
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| jeblair | the "--commit-message" flag has been in zuul's query since 2012-07-25 | 15:14 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, yes, but not the comparison for commitMessage on depends-on | 15:14 |
| yolanda | that was crashing our system | 15:14 |
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| yolanda | and i have the entries logged from yesterday, for some reason, that queries were not providing the commit message | 15:14 |
| yolanda | same query done for today returns it | 15:14 |
| flip214 | fungi: AJaeger: is jenkins hung somewhere? the recheck from 44 mins ago hasn't run yet, previously it was done in 6 minutes. | 15:14 |
| jeblair | yeah, i understand. i'm just saying that all versions of zuul you have run should have included that argument. so the error seems to be with gerrit | 15:14 |
| jeblair | yolanda: have you restarted gerrit since yesterday? | 15:15 |
| yolanda | jeblair, yes | 15:15 |
| yolanda | we had a lock yesterday night | 15:15 |
| yolanda | do you think gerrit should be failing to provide that info for some reason? | 15:15 |
| jeblair | i wonder if it did not provide the commit message because it was in a bad state | 15:15 |
| yolanda | that scares me | 15:15 |
| yolanda | i may do a second test tomorrow morning | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | fungi, mestery : apparently I can create a new series and close an existing milestone now, but not create a new milestone | 15:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul: Allow 'MAY' in Gerrit submit records https://review.openstack.org/187224 | 15:16 |
| mestery | dhellmann fungi: How bizarre is that. | 15:17 |
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| dhellmann | mestery: I'm sure there's some setting being cached on the existing series | 15:17 |
| jeblair | fungi, clarkb: i'm about to restart zuul to pick up that fix. do we want to restart gerrit because it's slow? | 15:18 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we should take advantage of zuul being off to do gerrit too | 15:18 |
| fungi | yeah, that seems reasonable as a stop-gap | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/system-config: WIP: Jenkins slave for package builds https://review.openstack.org/185680 | 15:18 |
| clarkb | I did confirm with melody that we are garbage collecting ~10% of the time and are right up a against the 8GB memory limit | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | mestery: I think we can work around this, let's move back to relmgr-office | 15:19 |
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| fungi | flip214: what change did you recheck? | 15:19 |
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| fungi | flip214: do you see it at http://status.openstack.org/zuul/? | 15:19 |
| mestery | dhellmann: ack | 15:19 |
| yolanda | jeblair, ok, i agree with your review, also supported by the results i'm having now. gerrit was hiding commitmessage, and also details for the patchset that is providing now | 15:19 |
| yolanda | going to resync tomorrow morning and see results | 15:20 |
| jeblair | fungi: i believe we had found that this version of gerrit "gets slow over time" and restarting it helps | 15:20 |
| yolanda | jeblair, actually we had locks on replication | 15:20 |
| yolanda | Ricky rebooted that yesterday afternoon | 15:20 |
| yolanda | becuse it was locked replicating a big repo | 15:20 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, it had just been so long since we's been able to run gerrit without restarting every few days i forgot | 15:21 |
| jeblair | yolanda: i don't know whether or not that would affect things like gerrit's commit message processing. it might or might not. | 15:21 |
| fungi | er, since we'd | 15:21 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, i guess you haven't seen that issue on gerrit 2.8? | 15:21 |
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| yolanda | i'm wondering how safe can it be to upgrade zuul, if we can face that situation | 15:21 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: if gerrit does not report the correct information, it is not safe regardless of which version of zuul is being used (and regardless of whether zuul tries to access a particular bit of information). | 15:22 |
| yolanda | jeblair, yes, but i mean, if gerrit 2.4 is particularly failing on that, it's dangerous for our deployment | 15:23 |
| flip214 | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178049/, arrived right now when I'm looking. Grrr.. Sorry for the noise. | 15:23 |
| jeblair | yolanda: yeah, but we only have 1 data point right now, it's hard to generalize from that | 15:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: in particular we appear to have a memory leak that leads to a large amount of time being spent garbage collecting, this slows the server down. Restarting the service starts gerrit from a new state where it can start leaking again :) | 15:23 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: oh, you were talking about gerrit earlier? i thought you were talking about jenkins | 15:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yup gerrit | 15:23 |
| yolanda | jeblair, problem is i cannot reproduce on my testing environment, i had it running yesterday all day and was fine. But i had on gerrit 2.8, so i assumed that was the problem | 15:24 |
| jeblair | clarkb: just for my own curiosity, is there anything in that sentence that applies to gerrit but not jenkins? | 15:24 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: if you have debug logging enabled, you should be able to run the old version of zuul for a while and check that commitMessage shows up in all the queries | 15:25 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: in the jenkins case we don't seem to have the garbage collector thrashing as the leak in jenkins is not on the heap, the leak in jenkins is in the memory space for thread stacks | 15:25 |
| yolanda | jeblair, let me check | 15:25 |
| jeblair | yolanda: so you can see whether the problem would happen without actually running the new zuul | 15:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb: got it, thanks | 15:25 |
| clarkb | so jenkins has to wait for threads to die in order to make new ones, gerrit is able to clean up heap and use more of it to a degree | 15:25 |
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| yolanda | mm, yes, it's providing it | 15:27 |
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| yolanda | i want to check the ones from yesterday | 15:27 |
| jeblair | yolanda: good idea, maybe you can see when it stopped providing it | 15:27 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: what's the policy becoming a member of https://launchpad.net/~openstack-admins ? | 15:28 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: it's informal, but it's generally release team + infra-core | 15:28 |
| fungi | dhellmann: and also a general willingness to help fix things that only people in that group are allowed to fix | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: ok, cool. I'm a member of the release team now, so can I be added? I'd like to try to sort out the acls issue on the neutron client project | 15:29 |
| jeblair | seems appropriate to me, yeah, fungi? | 15:29 |
| fungi | yep, completely in favor | 15:29 |
| * dhellmann promises to be very careful | 15:30 | |
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| jeblair | dhellmann: done; note that in many cases, openstack-admins owns teams with actual privs, so you may have to add yourself to another team, do something, then remove yourself from the other team | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: ok, that makes sense | 15:31 |
| jeblair | that "sudo" step helps with the being careful sometimes :) | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | yes, I can see that :-) | 15:31 |
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| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: puppet just updated zuul, so i'm going to restart all the things now. | 15:32 |
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| fungi | jeblair: thanks | 15:34 |
| flip214 | 504 Service Unavailable on https://review.openstack.org/178049/ ?? | 15:34 |
| jeblair | flip214: just restarte gerrit; relead | 15:34 |
| jeblair | reload | 15:34 |
| fungi | flip214: we're restarting zuul to apply a bug fix patch, and restarting gerrit at the same time to address a memory leak | 15:34 |
| jeblair | (done) | 15:34 |
| flip214 | jeblair: thanks, will try. | 15:34 |
| flip214 | thanks, seems to work. just wanted to make that condition's known. | 15:35 |
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| jeblair | ttx: can you re-approve the governance changes | 15:38 |
| jeblair | (recheck won't work because they already have +1 from jenkins) | 15:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add infra-cloud spec https://review.openstack.org/186960 | 15:44 |
| ttx | jeblair: doing so now | 15:45 |
| pabelanger | jeblair, fungi: do you mind approving this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59590/ | 15:45 |
| pabelanger | we don't have a +2 in the group ATM | 15:46 |
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| pabelanger | just adds .gitreview for the project | 15:46 |
| fungi | pabelanger: approved. looks fine | 15:47 |
| pabelanger | fungi, danke | 15:47 |
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| ttx | jeblair: done | 15:47 |
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| jeblair | ttx: merged; w00t! | 15:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Start logstash indexer service after networking https://review.openstack.org/161841 | 15:51 |
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| jeblair | ttx: you may now officially express a negative opinion! /me shudders at the wave of negativity ttx is about to unleash | 15:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create zuul-packaging experimental job https://review.openstack.org/186441 | 16:03 |
| pabelanger | okay, so that _should_ get us a jenkin slave with the ability to do builds | 16:03 |
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| pleia2 | I seem to have a stomach bug :( I'll be around here and there | 16:05 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: is there a spec or written plan for the zuul-packaging work you're doing? | 16:05 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: is https://review.openstack.org/179713 relevant? | 16:05 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair, StevenK has a spec out for packaging in general. I'm going to re-read it to make sure I'm still on track with the work I did | 16:06 |
| pabelanger | yes, that one you linked | 16:07 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: how does this relate to the broader effort that zigo kicked off for openstack-packaging? | 16:07 |
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| mordred | and/or - is there / should there be a broader effort related to infra packaging? | 16:08 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair, Good I think. The stuff I did will provided a lot of the same tooling zigo and other debian / ubuntu packagers would need. EG: sbuild for chroot, git-buildpackage, etc. While my goal is not to do distro packages, get infra building and consuming packages. I believe there is overlap for similar workflows | 16:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add Release Team meeting https://review.openstack.org/187243 | 16:09 |
| pabelanger | right now, I am just adding some basic gate tests to see if the package source can be built, using git-buildpackage. Next step would be to build the package in sbuild, then add some lint checks | 16:10 |
| pabelanger | basic idea is, jenkin launches slave, then we re-run puppet to convert into package slave. Then, proceed with building package and tests | 16:11 |
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| pabelanger | all using the ubuntu-trusty dib | 16:11 |
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| mordred | should we make an infra-packaging core team? or one per packaging repo? or both? | 16:12 |
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| pabelanger | right now we have openstack-infra-packagers (I believe) | 16:12 |
| jeblair | pabelanger, mordred: my first question is still how is the related (if at all) to the broader effort started by zigo? and how does it relate to StevenK's effort? and how does zigo's relate to StevenK's? | 16:13 |
| fungi | pabelanger: interesting. so we'd apply new puppet manifests to the worker at job run-time? i take it there are existing puppet modules which make this an attractive solution as opposed to a more ad-hoc scripted configuration? | 16:13 |
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| jeblair | '...how is _this_ related (if at all)...' | 16:13 |
| mordred | jeblair: yah. I would also like to grok that | 16:14 |
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| pabelanger | To me, they are related in the fact, if we (infra packaging) provide the base chroots for debian/sid, then zigo _could_ then update his toolchain to consume them using his processes. There is some other overlap with zigo too, since we both use git-buildpackage to build our source from | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Remove trailing slash from agenda urls https://review.openstack.org/187245 | 16:15 |
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| pabelanger | however, right now we don't have any things specific to fedora/centos ATM | 16:15 |
| pabelanger | until we import some fedora packaging bits for zuul | 16:16 |
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| pabelanger | fungi, Yes, I created a slave_pkg module in system-config. Again, if people don't like that approach, we could change it. For me, it was easy to extend the existing puppet setup. | 16:18 |
| fungi | also it's worth noting that the discussion on the ml so far has been that while distros talk about collaborating with one another, it's really only within their derivative camps. the rpm-based distros and deb-based distros want nothing to do with one another and prefer to namespace separate packaging repos entirely | 16:18 |
| mordred | pabelanger: I think we may be asking a different question ... (or at least I am) | 16:18 |
| pabelanger | fungi, I was thinking towards zuulv3, and maybe having some sort of ansible script that nodepool could launch and provision | 16:18 |
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| fungi | so our original "why can't we all just get along" ideals about branches for all distros/releases in one common repo are unlikely to work in reality | 16:19 |
| mordred | pabelanger: which is - who is doing this - are the teams of humans related. like, is there a team of packaging people who should all be invovled? or are there completely separate teams | 16:19 |
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| pabelanger | fungi, Right, that has been my experience so far too. So far, deb-zuul-packaging and rpm-zuul-packaging seems like the preferred naming schema ATM | 16:20 |
| fungi | and also, at least zigo seems to want to not have per-release branches, but instead make his packaging flexibly work with all supported releases | 16:21 |
| mordred | that is how I did openstack packaging back when I did openstack packaging | 16:21 |
| jeblair | i'm going to try to summarize my current mind-state, and people can correct me if i'm wrong: | 16:23 |
| pabelanger | mordred, Good question, I don't know the answer to it. Aside from the stuff I am working on, I don't know any of the distro teams are working on infra patchsets. Again, that is likely because of no general condenses yet. | 16:23 |
| pleia2 | StevenK: cool, thanks for the update :) looking forward to seeing the branch updated | 16:23 |
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| jeblair | StevenK is working on a spec for how we will build packages in infra to both deploy our tooling (eg, zuul) and provide updated resources for openstack testing (eg, libvirt) | 16:23 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger is working on building packages for our tooling (eg zuul) | 16:24 |
| pleia2 | StevenK: I'm going to poke around today to see what's up with the service restarts - if that is indeed what we're seeing when it randomly drops off | 16:24 |
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| jeblair | zigo is working on a social and technical framework for building openstack packages | 16:24 |
| pabelanger | each packaging distro is wanting their toolchain to be the default way. Honestly, I'd much rather see the packager pick there tooling of choice, rather then force everybody to use the same one. | 16:24 |
| jeblair | (end) | 16:25 |
| mordred | pabelanger: so - as a service for distros, sure. but for infra, absolutely not | 16:25 |
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| mordred | pabelanger: if infra needs to make packages for its servers for multi-distros, there should be one and only one way to do it for infra, and distro preferences should not play in to it at all | 16:25 |
| pabelanger | mordred, Right, that seems to make sense to me. | 16:26 |
| mordred | pabelanger: however, if fedora wants to use infra to make and test packages for fedora, I agree, I do not care to dictate to them how they do that | 16:26 |
| mordred | jeblair: I agree with your mind-state | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/requirements: Require WSME>=0.7 https://review.openstack.org/187248 | 16:27 |
| pabelanger | jeblair, yes, that is how I see it | 16:27 |
| jeblair | so the next thing is that i think that (stevenk and pabelanger) are working on substantially similar efforts, and zigo's effort is disjoint (but will potentially have a lot of sharing) | 16:27 |
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| fungi | the main contention for the package build toolchains are around how build dependencies get cached. different distros have different tools for maintaining a reusable build environment. we have our own unrelated tools for doing those sorts of things, but also don't provide the ability for this sort of stuff to persist from one job to another | 16:28 |
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| fungi | my worry is that the distro package maintainers are going to come to us with increasingly complex requests to recreate parts of their upstream build infrastructure within our infrastructure, so having some answers to that would help | 16:30 |
| pabelanger | jeblair, yes. Talking to StevenK at the summit we agreed on almost every thing for the spec. Only difference, that I can remember, was I was for chroots for builds, StevenK for using the root OS (via nodepool). But that is a trivial thing to figure out TBH. | 16:30 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: cool, then i think i know what i need to move forward | 16:30 |
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| mordred | fungi: yes. in fact, I want to make packaging infrastructure in our infra because we have some tools at our disposal that may not have existed when the other folks built theirs | 16:31 |
| mordred | fungi: that may be arrogance on my part, of course | 16:31 |
| pabelanger | fungi, agreed. For the most part, I'm following along with the ML, trying to keep the same tooling as much as possible. I'd much rather have zigo helping up with the -infra packaging if there is overlap | 16:31 |
| mordred | fungi: but I'm not interested in just hosting a copy of the buildds | 16:31 |
| pabelanger | mordred, ++ | 16:32 |
| jeblair | i'd like to see the spec that StevenK started on finished up so that it describes our use cases and also the plan and technology we will use for zuul-packaging as the initial trial repo for this | 16:32 |
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| jeblair | that will make sure we're all on the same page, and other folks like Clint, SpamapS, GheRivero, and maybe others will know the plan as well | 16:33 |
| mordred | ++ | 16:34 |
| jeblair | once that spec is approved, we can add some folks to the packaging core teams and infra-core can get out of the way :) | 16:34 |
| pabelanger | Yup, I'm down with that. | 16:34 |
| fungi | yeah, there was a brief discussion in #debian-openstack on oftc earlier today between zigo and jamespage about what package caching options they'd have available to them on our job workers | 16:34 |
| jeblair | (cause right now, i could try to review those patches, but i'm not sure what i'm actually looking for :) | 16:34 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair, no, I wouldn't want people to approve them right now anyways. They were more for the meeting tomorrow to update the interested parties to see how it _could_ work | 16:35 |
| mordred | ossum | 16:35 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: that sounds great | 16:36 |
| pabelanger | okay, now on to the stackalytics puppet patch :) | 16:37 |
| jeblair | in my mind then, here's the process: pabelanger, mordred, and stevenk agree on a plan in https://review.openstack.org/179713, the infra-council approves that, then i add some folks to zuul-packaging-core and magic happens :) | 16:37 |
| mordred | jeblair: magic! | 16:37 |
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| GheRivero | magic happens? Am I the only one with doubts about that? | 16:38 |
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| jeblair | GheRivero: we're assigning that part to you | 16:38 |
| Clint | magic or doubts? | 16:38 |
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| GheRivero | will try to catch some unicorns before dealing with that | 16:39 |
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| jeblair | (but on a serious note; "magic happens" == "implements the process that is well described in the spec") | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Allow managing nodepool.yaml from module https://review.openstack.org/187165 | 16:40 |
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| jeblair | ttx: you want tonyb in irc-meetings-core so he can approve changes to the meeting schedule, right? | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Remove trailing slash from agenda urls https://review.openstack.org/187245 | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split list filtering into its own file https://review.openstack.org/186409 | 16:46 |
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| jlvillal | Who is the person to talk to about fixing this OpenStack proposal bot submission? https://review.openstack.org/128965 | 16:52 |
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| fungi | mordred: if we regenerate that merge commit ^ for the juno tag now that there's an even newer kilo tag merged to master, will that screw up versioning? | 16:55 |
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| dansmith | I have a tool that pulls JSON from zuul periodically, and recently it has started to fail, | 16:55 |
| dansmith | in a way that looks like requests randomly get truncated | 16:55 |
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| dansmith | the JSON I get back is incomplete and so json.loads() fails with things like "unterminated string" and such | 16:55 |
| dansmith | before I go debugging further, has anything changed that might be causing that? | 16:55 |
| fungi | dansmith: is it just at random, or do they seem to truncate at a constant length? | 16:56 |
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| dansmith | fungi: lemme look | 16:57 |
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| yolanda | jeblair , mordred... i wanted to raise with you, we are having similar problem as we had with public cloud queues, but with jenkins queue | 16:58 |
| dansmith | fungi: first failure: Failed to get data from Zuul: Expecting : delimiter: line 1 column 78953 (char 78952) | 16:58 |
| yolanda | do you have a sec? | 16:58 |
| waynr | electrical: since you're working on a JJB errors spec, i thought i'd point out that we may have a need for something like a "ConflictingAttributesError": https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179366/ | 16:58 |
| dansmith | fungi: must be random, because that "expecting delimiter" is one case, and "unterminated string" is another I get often | 16:59 |
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| fungi | dansmith: are you doing http or https? | 16:59 |
| dansmith | just got another at a different character | 16:59 |
| fungi | dansmith: though i guess tcp checksums ought to catch garbled packets even on http, so forget i asked | 16:59 |
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| dansmith | fungi: http | 16:59 |
| dansmith | Failed to get data from Zuul: Unterminated string starting at: line 1 column 239278 (char 239277) | 17:00 |
| dansmith | so, failed at a wildly different character | 17:00 |
| fungi | dansmith: can you briefly save the raw responses you're getting back to confirm whether that's truncation or something mangling the stream? | 17:01 |
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| dansmith | okay | 17:01 |
| fungi | just curious of the error is always the end of the reply or something gone wrong in the middle | 17:01 |
| fungi | er, if | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | jlvillal: mordred and ttx are probably your best bets | 17:03 |
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| jlvillal | clarkb: Thanks. Hopefully one of them will see this :) Regarding: https://review.openstack.org/128965 | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | mordred, ttx ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 17:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: re rpms vs deb packaging, why would the repo matter in that case? they would be independent branches and review teams. I think the beneift we get out of "colocation" is that it is easy for others to know where to get their packaging details | 17:04 |
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| electrical | waynr: already ahead of you :) | 17:05 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, i tried to explain that we can grant rights to different branches for different groups | 17:05 |
| fungi | clarkb: the only reason i can think of is that they might want incompatible branch naming schemes | 17:05 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: sure; i don't know what you mean though. | 17:07 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, ok, explaining | 17:07 |
| yolanda | same problem as we had with slow api times with hpcloud, can be derived to jenkins | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Create utils.get_core_team() function. https://review.openstack.org/187256 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Stop hard coding core team member lists https://review.openstack.org/187257 | 17:07 |
| yolanda | when our jenkins is under high load, the api times to create node, delete node, etc... can be increased until 20-30 seconds | 17:07 |
| yolanda | so imagine you have 20 createnode + 20 deletenode after then | 17:08 |
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| yolanda | it will suppose 20*20=400 seconds until it starts deleting old nodes | 17:08 |
| yolanda | and we cannot create new nodes until it happens | 17:08 |
| yolanda | because we are at quota | 17:08 |
| jeblair | yolanda: yes, that's part of why we run more than one. also, have you eliminated all of the jenkins plugins so that you are only using the ones we are? (ftp, scp, postbuild task) | 17:08 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, we are using mostly the same as upstream, yes | 17:09 |
| yolanda | jeblair, but it's not real jenkins load, but problems with that queue system again | 17:09 |
| jeblair | yolanda: can you give me a list of the ones that you are using that we are not? that may be the cause of your problem | 17:09 |
| yolanda | it we could split create by one side + delete by another, things will run better | 17:09 |
| yolanda | btw, going to check our plugins | 17:09 |
| adam_g | anyone got a sec for a trivial project-config patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187085/ | 17:10 |
| mrmartin | ttx: are u here? | 17:10 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, so we have a few not puppetized, looks like | 17:12 |
| yolanda | let me create a list | 17:12 |
| yolanda | jeblair, what are your usual api times for jenkins, when it's loaded? | 17:13 |
| jeblair | yolanda: we should not run multiple queues for one jenkins; adding and removing slaves shares a lock, so it will happen sequentially regardless. i'm not sure that changing the order of the requests will help (if you do deletes first then you may end up waiting to add new servers; if you do adds first, then you may not be able to create new servers because you are at quota, etc) | 17:13 |
| jeblair | yolanda: looking that up now | 17:13 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, my idea was multiple queues | 17:14 |
| yolanda | resembling the same change i did for hpcloud | 17:14 |
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| yolanda | one queue with create, one with delete | 17:14 |
| jeblair | yolanda: yeah, but jenkins will only perform one at a time. so even if you split it into multiple queues, jenkins will only create or delete one at a time, the other one will sit there waiting for the lock. | 17:14 |
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| yolanda | jeblair, well, yes | 17:14 |
| jeblair | yolanda: there is a global mutex on the list of nodes | 17:14 |
| yolanda | but you won't have 20 sequential creates | 17:15 |
| yolanda | and 20 sequential deletes | 17:15 |
| yolanda | if we hit the create queue , we can't delete nodes, and we can add more, because we are at quota, that's our pain point now | 17:15 |
| jeblair | yolanda: our jenkins tasks take < 1 second. | 17:15 |
| yolanda | oh | 17:16 |
| yolanda | lucky you | 17:16 |
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| clarkb | check the number of threads yo uhave running in jenkins | 17:16 |
| jeblair | yolanda: not lucky. we run multiple masters and we don't use jenkins plugins that grab global locks. | 17:16 |
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| clarkb | if its >2k you likely leaked threads. Looks for "ForRemoting" threads and count those, any more than say 100 is a leak | 17:16 |
| yolanda | jeblair, but one master should be ok for over 100 slaves, right? | 17:17 |
| jeblair | yolanda: in our experience, yes | 17:17 |
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| clarkb | 200 appears to have been the upper limit for what is sustainable on our masters | 17:17 |
| yolanda | when we reach even 50 of that slaves in jenkins, api times grow to 20 seconds or more | 17:17 |
| jeblair | yolanda: and expanding on what clarkb said, when's the last time you restarted jenkins? | 17:18 |
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| yolanda | we don't normally reboot | 17:18 |
| yolanda | maybe 2 weeks ago | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Removed old js-based test job. https://review.openstack.org/182088 | 17:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Hinrichs proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable congress and tempest in devstack in congress-dsvm-api test https://review.openstack.org/180726 | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Deprecated js-test build. https://review.openstack.org/182089 | 17:19 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: i think the best approach for now is to figure out why jenkins is so slow. that's the only way we're going to increase total throughput. | 17:22 |
| yolanda | i'm collecting the list of plugins now | 17:22 |
| jeblair | yolanda: so check on the threads as clarkb suggested. see if performance is better after a restart. and let's look at the plugin list when you're done (make sure to list the plugins you are actually using in jobs; we have some installed that we don't actually use) | 17:23 |
| yolanda | we also see node connection problems, jenkins dropping connection, when we are under load | 17:23 |
| clarkb | its also possible that 50 slaves is the limit for your jenkins master on your hardware | 17:24 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: agreed | 17:24 |
| yolanda | yes, i'm looking at the list, and i'm figuring why they are there | 17:24 |
| yolanda | we have 8 core instance | 17:24 |
| dansmith | fungi: yep, the JSON just abruptly stops in the middle of a string | 17:24 |
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| yolanda | and we never see cpu at top | 17:24 |
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| yolanda | jeblair http://paste.openstack.org/show/253431/ | 17:28 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: and you use all of those in jobs? | 17:28 |
| yolanda | no, normally scp, post-build, the usual ones | 17:28 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: we need a list of plugins that are actually used in jobs | 17:29 |
| yolanda | need to figure it | 17:29 |
| fungi | dansmith: so we've got response truncation at random positions in the json from one request to the next | 17:29 |
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| fungi | that's... troubling | 17:29 |
| dansmith | fungi: http://pastebin.com/G9FCcvq9 | 17:29 |
| fungi | dansmith: any proxy between your client and the zuul api? | 17:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186744/ I don't feel super strongly about them though and can be convinced to flip my -1 | 17:30 |
| dansmith | fungi: two examples ^ | 17:30 |
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| dansmith | fungi: nope | 17:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: but that code doesn't really follow the conventions elsewhere in nodepool hence the -1 | 17:30 |
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| fungi | dansmith: so at least the two different parsing errors seem to be instances of the same issue depending on whether the truncation is within a string our outside | 17:30 |
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| fungi | i sort of suspected that would end up being the case | 17:31 |
| dansmith | fungi: yes | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Test that we are setting region-name properly https://review.openstack.org/186944 | 17:31 |
| fungi | i see the apache instance on zuul.o.o raised some errors while zuul was restarted earlier, but nothing that looks likely related to this | 17:33 |
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| dansmith | fungi: this has been going on for a couple weeks at least | 17:34 |
| dansmith | fungi: was seeing it well before summit | 17:34 |
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| fungi | dansmith: while this doesn't address the error (and i would love to get to the bottom of it) are you scraping the api looking for status on specific changes? if so, there's a new api path you can use to get targeted status info without needing to dump the global status | 17:35 |
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| jesusaurus | yolanda: also remember that we have about 50 static slaves, so when nodepool has 50 nodes that means jenkins has 100 slaves | 17:35 |
| yolanda | jesusaurus, but on friday we were not seeing 100 slaves in jenkins for sure, i barely noticed over 50 | 17:36 |
| clarkb | zaro: so you were able to determine that the proposed jgit fix did not change the timeout + pack error situation? | 17:36 |
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| fungi | dansmith: for example http://zuul.openstack.org/status/change/175744,13 | 17:36 |
| dansmith | fungi: yeah, but can I request a bunch in a batch? otherwise it's easier to use the global list | 17:36 |
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| fungi | dansmith: oh, probably not (yet) but that's likely fairly easy to extend in the api now that there's an option for more than just one response | 17:37 |
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| fungi | anyway, still looking for any signs of these failures on the zuul server end | 17:37 |
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| fungi | dansmith: roughly what percentage of your requests get truncated responses? if it happens somewhat frequently, i can leave tcpdump running just capturing traffic for your ip address to confirm whether i'm seeing it between the zuul api and apache or just in what apache is serving | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix akanda plugin setup https://review.openstack.org/187085 | 17:39 |
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| dansmith | fungi: it depends.. sometimes it seems to be every other request, and other times it seems to be like 10% or less | 17:41 |
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| dansmith | fungi: I also get this now and then: httplib.BadStatusLine: '' | 17:43 |
| dansmith | just got it now | 17:43 |
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| fungi | ick | 17:43 |
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| jeblair | dansmith: running the 3 lines at https://github.com/kk7ds/openstack-gerrit-dashboard/blob/master/dash.py#L84 i have gotten badstatusline a few times, but have not seen truncation | 17:44 |
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| fungi | okay, i have tcpdump running watching both for api calls on the loopback and from your source address on the outside interface | 17:46 |
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| dansmith | jeblair: okay | 17:46 |
| fungi | unfortunately i can't filter the loopback packets by address since they're all obviously local, but once you get a hit let me know a rough timestamp and where you see the json terminate for it and i'll try to correlate | 17:47 |
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| dansmith | just got the bad status line again | 17:47 |
| fungi | awesome. do you happen to have a timestamp in it? | 17:47 |
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| dansmith | fungi: okay thanks | 17:47 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: have you started the shade change to use the swiftclient session object thing? | 17:47 |
| fungi | oh, wait, you said bad status line | 17:47 |
| dansmith | fungi: bad status line means I didn't get any data, so no timestamp, right? | 17:47 |
| dansmith | yeah | 17:47 |
| fungi | okay, still capturing waiting for truncation | 17:47 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: no :( the whole moving thing is ETIME | 17:48 |
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| dansmith | I *am* on the least popular ISP in the world.. surely hope *they* aren't to blame :/ | 17:48 |
| fungi | dansmith: bob's discount packet pushers? | 17:48 |
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| dansmith | fungi: no, bob is much better than comcast I think | 17:48 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: that is on my list for today though | 17:49 |
| pabelanger | do we have any documentation about adding a new puppet module into -infra? For example, not having a upstream for gerrit/projects.yaml ? | 17:49 |
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| pabelanger | or even a template for puppet modules now that we are doing more testing | 17:49 |
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| fungi | dansmith: shh... they're running openstack! | 17:49 |
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| dansmith | heh | 17:49 |
| * fungi wonders if that explains things | 17:49 | |
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| dansmith | fungi: are you looking for something in the json body itself? | 17:51 |
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| dansmith | because I don't see anything in the other captures that looks like a global timestamp | 17:51 |
| lifeless | russellb: hi, looking. | 17:51 |
| jeblair | dansmith: also, once you are finished debugging this, if you could make your method use gzip, like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/253492/ that would probably be better for everyone :) | 17:52 |
| fungi | dansmith: if you have an approximate time, that'll probably be sufficient for me to track it down to a specific request in the external capture | 17:52 |
| dansmith | jeblair: might that be related? just in terms of getting my traffic shaped or something? | 17:52 |
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| russellb | lifeless: awesome, much appreciated, just an area i'm really not familiar with | 17:52 |
| dansmith | fungi: bingo | 17:53 |
| dansmith | fungi: 10:52:43, probably ten seconds after that | 17:53 |
| fungi | dansmith: great--thanks. stopping my captures and seeing what we caught | 17:53 |
| lifeless | russellb: no, the problem is the escapes. | 17:53 |
| dansmith | fungi: stopped here: "infra/puppet-cgit, openstack-infra/puppet-diskimag" | 17:53 |
| jeblair | dansmith: nothing we're doing should inhibit plain-text from working | 17:53 |
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| dansmith | jeblair: okay | 17:54 |
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| fungi | 45003 packets captured on the loopback. chatty, chatty | 17:54 |
| jeblair | dansmith: (and my tests without it seemed to work) | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Ask for commit-message on current-patchset https://review.openstack.org/187268 | 17:54 |
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| lifeless | russellb: I've commented on the review with more context. | 17:54 |
| jeblair | ValueError: No JSON object could be decoded | 17:54 |
| yolanda | jeblair, mordred, found the real zuul/gerrit 2.4 issue ^ | 17:54 |
| yolanda | that's tested | 17:54 |
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| jeblair | dansmith: i may have spoken just too soon | 17:54 |
| russellb | lifeless: great, thanks! so sounds like i should just wait a week or so for the pip release, then update it to remove escapes | 17:55 |
| fungi | dansmith: i have a request at 17:52:43 and another at 17:52:54 so i'm assuming it's the latter | 17:55 |
| jeblair | yolanda: ah, thanks | 17:55 |
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| lifeless | russellb: I'd appreciate it if you update it now, so its not providing a confusing example. | 17:55 |
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| russellb | lifeless: OK, will do! | 17:55 |
| lifeless | russellb: but yes, it may need to wait a little to merge. | 17:55 |
| yolanda | jeblair, can you prioritize reviews on that? we wanted to deploy new zuul on the weekend , so that was a blocker | 17:55 |
| russellb | lifeless: got it | 17:56 |
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| jeblair | yolanda: have you verified that works with 2.8? | 17:56 |
| yolanda | i tested that query on 2.8, it's providing commitMessage by default | 17:56 |
| yolanda | yes | 17:56 |
| fungi | dansmith: looks like i got no requests from you after that 17:52:54 so i assume your script terminated on failure? | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/requirements: Add windows requirements. https://review.openstack.org/187055 | 17:56 |
| yolanda | and i tested on 2.4, and doesn't provide commit message unless you specify flag | 17:56 |
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| dansmith | fungi: correct | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Create site for apps.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/187018 | 17:57 |
| dansmith | fungi: I could also maybe change my url to end in #dansmith or something if it'd be easier to track down | 17:57 |
| jeblair | yolanda: lgtm | 17:57 |
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| yolanda | nice | 17:57 |
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| jeblair | dansmith, fungi: i confirm reproduction of the truncated data without using gzip. and i am not using comcast :) | 17:58 |
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| fungi | dansmith: does your json from that response end in "url" | 17:58 |
| dansmith | jeblair: awesome | 17:58 |
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| dansmith | fungi: no, the last 50 chars are: "infra/puppet-cgit, openstack-infra/puppet-diskimag" | 17:59 |
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| reed | jeblair, for the records, I'm now convinced that automatic abandoning of patches is bad | 18:00 |
| yolanda | jeblair, i'll recheck later, so if that's approved i'll resync from our side | 18:00 |
| yolanda | we are really willing to consume latest features | 18:01 |
| anteaya | dansmith: thanks for you email to the ml, I'm so disappointed, lennyb was at the summit and never met any of the nova folks. He also came to the third party meeting this morning and had nothing to discuss | 18:01 |
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| anteaya | dansmith: I asked him to join -nova and be in channel and he said it was on his list of things to do | 18:01 |
| anteaya | *sigh* I really don't understand how some people think | 18:01 |
| dansmith | anteaya: :( | 18:01 |
| jeblair | reed: here are some notes that i took last time i was able to get someone to actually talk to be about abandoning changes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/253503/ | 18:02 |
| anteaya | yeah :( | 18:02 |
| anteaya | dansmith: thanks for your patience with his account, and I totally support whatever decision you make | 18:02 |
| dansmith | anteaya: that email was crafted with my most constructive hat on :) | 18:02 |
| jeblair | reed: those are things that it would be good to have an answer for before making a big push to ask people to stop doing it (or turning the ability off) | 18:02 |
| anteaya | dansmith: you are excellent at constructive | 18:02 |
| anteaya | it is a good hat | 18:02 |
| dansmith | anteaya: yeah, I dunno what to do.. hard to tell them to stop commenting until it's stable when we have to see that it's stable | 18:03 |
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| jeblair | reed: incidentally, i was never able to get anyone to talk publicly about the actual use cases; only flames. | 18:03 |
| anteaya | yeah, I'm out of ideas too | 18:03 |
| dansmith | anteaya: I guess after they burn enough karma we just permaban them and stop caring (something else I'm good at doing) | 18:03 |
| anteaya | he has shown up consistently to meetings and went to summit, attended an infra work session to fix puppet modules | 18:03 |
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| reed | jeblair, I think this mess https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186109/ was created at least partially by the auto-abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70458/ | 18:04 |
| anteaya | dansmith: yeah, and they are riding the edge, thanks for telling them before they go over | 18:04 |
| dansmith | anteaya: yes and jumps on it when we point out the problem, but if we have to continue to ring the bell it's not worth it, IMHO | 18:04 |
| anteaya | dansmith: I concur | 18:04 |
| anteaya | it isn't your job to monitor their system | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerry Zhao proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: add option to use ipv6 for image update and node launching https://review.openstack.org/156178 | 18:04 |
| anteaya | it is their responsiblity | 18:04 |
| reed | a newcomer was not aware of 'restore' and didn't even try to contact the original author... just took the code and run by himself (and made other mistakes --but those are solved now) | 18:04 |
| jeblair | reed: ugh, yeah, and that was launchpadsync, so that was our fault. :( we've at least stopped that now. | 18:05 |
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| reed | glad to hear that :) | 18:06 |
| reed | I just wanted to add my support against auto-abandonment :) | 18:06 |
| jeblair | ++ thanks | 18:06 |
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| dansmith | anteaya: yes, that :) | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | dansmith: yeah, so I support whatever decision you make here, I have nothing left in terms of guiding them to take care of their account as expected | 18:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Import puppet-stackalytics into openstack-infra https://review.openstack.org/187269 | 18:11 |
| dansmith | anteaya: yep, let's see how this round goes at least | 18:11 |
| anteaya | sounds good | 18:11 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jerry Zhao proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: add option to use ipv6 for image update and node launching https://review.openstack.org/156178 | 18:21 |
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| dansmith | fungi: are you still looking for my failure? I'm not running right now... | 18:33 |
| fungi | dansmith: trying to correlate that last response against the loopback capture | 18:34 |
| dansmith | okay | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable trove plugin for trove tempest job https://review.openstack.org/168145 | 18:35 |
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| fungi | oh, i think i see the problem... i extended the snaplength on my captures to 1500 bytes because, you know, mtu... but that's not at all relevant on the loopback interface :/ | 18:37 |
| fungi | lo has an mtu of 16436 | 18:37 |
| fungi | that explains why i can't correlate... well... anything at all | 18:38 |
| anteaya | I can feel my cat sneaking up on the chair and timing the pounce into my lap | 18:38 |
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| fungi | anyway, as jeblair confirmed he too is seeing truncated responses i should hopefully be able to reproduce it myself | 18:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | Team - I'm looking for a 2nd core to review / approve the patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186161 Thanks for your help! | 18:40 |
| dansmith | fungi: okay cool. in the meantime, I'll move my code to use gzip and see if that changes it at all | 18:40 |
| clarkb | fungi: tcpdump -A should get it all right? | 18:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add Release Team meeting https://review.openstack.org/187243 | 18:41 |
| clarkb | though I guess thats less useful if using -w | 18:41 |
| fungi | clarkb: well, -A is useful when it comes time to -r | 18:41 |
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| fungi | that's what i was using | 18:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-manual: Document the meaning of Signed-off-by https://review.openstack.org/187202 | 18:41 |
| fungi | it's just that i have bad habits from *bsd where tcpdump didn't interpret -s 0 as "full length" and am used to simply specifying the mtu instead | 18:42 |
| fungi | bit me on the bum this time | 18:42 |
| fungi | since i didn't double-check the mtu on lo | 18:42 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: nice use of team there | 18:42 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: right now this patch calls and acl that doesn't exist: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186161/2/gerrit/projects.yaml | 18:43 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: there is no tacker.config in the openstack acl namespace | 18:43 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: where might it be? | 18:43 |
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| anteaya | using any jeblair code is worth at least +2 in awesome | 18:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Import puppet-stackalytics into openstack-infra https://review.openstack.org/187269 | 18:48 |
| fungi | codesword of +2 awesome | 18:48 |
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| anteaya | ha ha ha | 18:48 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: grep can't find that acl in project-config at all | 18:49 |
| dhellmann | jeblair, fungi, clarkb, anteaya : cliff is blocked on some job config issues which should be fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186856/ -- if you have a few minutes, could you help unblock us? | 18:49 |
| anteaya | unblock cliff | 18:49 |
| anteaya | I see the scene from star trek where the car goes over | 18:49 |
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| dhellmann | we missed cleaning up a job when we set up stable branches for some of these libraries | 18:50 |
| dhellmann | s/we/i | 18:50 |
| clarkb | dhellmann doesng that imply cliff has broken stable osc? | 18:50 |
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| anteaya | the neutronclient-stable job is okay? | 18:51 |
| clarkb | which we are specifically guarding against there? | 18:51 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: both have stable branches so we don't need master to work with stable any more | 18:51 |
| fungi | i think it implies stable osc has broken master cliff, perhaps with requirements pins? | 18:51 |
| dhellmann | here's a failing job on a doc change: http://logs.openstack.org/78/176478/1/check/gate-cliff-tox-openstackclient-stable/3d71841/console.html.gz | 18:52 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I have +2'd the patch and await your review | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | sorry, not doc, help generation change (so it's code, but not related to the failing tests) | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | same test failures on a job with another unrelated change: http://logs.openstack.org/94/186394/1/check/gate-cliff-tox-openstackclient-stable/2a9f48d/console.html | 18:54 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: sorry, step out. thanks for looking | 18:54 |
| dhellmann | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186394/1 | 18:54 |
| mordred | notmyname: is the swift max object size discoverable by an end user? | 18:54 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: tacker.config file is in gerrit/acls/stackforge/tacker.config | 18:55 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: pardon my ignorance the scheme here - i'm a infra newbie :) | 18:55 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: okay can you change the path to the tacker.config file then to be stackforge and not openstack | 18:56 |
| anteaya | why did my grep not find it I wonder | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | clarkb, fungi: we are testing things together that we know to be incompatible and for which we are not trying to make any compatibility claims, so the job doesn't make sense any more. It *did* make sense before we started using stable branches of libraries and of the openstackclient | 18:57 |
| clarkb | dhellmann any idea where stable cliff is tested against stable osc? I dont see that job | 18:57 |
| anteaya | what is wrong with my grepping? http://paste.openstack.org/show/253637/ | 18:57 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: if we're missing that job, we can add it | 18:57 |
| sridhar_ram | anteaya: checking | 18:57 |
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| clarkb | well the commit claims it exists but I dont see it | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: do we not have a job that tests patches to stable cliff? | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | and dsvm jobs on stable cliff? | 18:58 |
| clarkb | you do but not one that tests against stable osc | 18:58 |
| dhellmann | I think the dsvm job is our integration job, since devstack runs osc | 18:58 |
| clarkb | all those jobs are integration jobs | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | I don't think we have a separate job like this with unit tests anywhere else | 18:59 |
| clarkb | cliff has several | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | we've removed any unit test cross project jobs from all of the other libraries | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'd be happy to remove all of those, too | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | cliff got lost in the mix when we cleaned up all of this for the oslo libs, I think | 19:00 |
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| dhellmann | we may have transferred ownership to the sdk team by the time I did that work | 19:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | anteaya: I see now. Other tacker repos (like stackforge/tacker, tacker-specs, python-tackerclient) - they don't use the acl-config. That explains grep coming back empty. | 19:01 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: we should probably remove that neutronclient-stable job, too | 19:01 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: and the -tip jobs? | 19:01 |
| sridhar_ram | sridhar_ram: Those other repos are created mid-last year by a different person.. not sure why acl-config was not used | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | I think we're comfortable running the tip jobs for now, since there are just 2 of them. If we should remove those, we can. | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: I'll update terry's patch to remove the neutronclient-stable job as well | 19:02 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: well the problem with them is stable cliff runs against tip osc | 19:02 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: which is the same problem in reverse | 19:02 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: and can you update the commit message to not imply a stable/stable test exists? | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: ok, what I'm trying to do is decouple master and stable here, so what do I need to do? | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | integration tests *do* exist, because we run a dsvm job, right? | 19:03 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: the correct fix would be to make the stable jobs only run on stable changes and the tip jobs only run against master | 19:03 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: you can do that with job specific branch selections in layout.yaml | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: and if I don't want those stable jobs at all? | 19:04 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: then remove them, but you still have to fix the -tip jobs | 19:05 |
| dhellmann | yep | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add functional tests for object service https://review.openstack.org/187296 | 19:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stable cross-test jobs from cliff https://review.openstack.org/186856 | 19:23 |
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| dhellmann | clarkb: ^^ | 19:23 |
| dhellmann | I *think* that's what I want, and that the commit message more accurately describes what we're trying to do. | 19:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Add make_feature_branch.sh https://review.openstack.org/186222 | 19:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker-horizon repo for Tacker VNF Manager UI https://review.openstack.org/186161 | 19:26 |
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| anteaya | sridhar_ram: no adding acl-config lines for acl files of the same name as the created repo is unnecessary | 19:27 |
| anteaya | sridhar_ram: my question was more to the channel about my poor grep fu | 19:27 |
| anteaya | not about needing to change your entries | 19:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Terry Howe proposed openstack/os-testr: Catch exception trying to extract test time https://review.openstack.org/187300 | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Add some missing dependencies https://review.openstack.org/187303 | 19:32 |
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| sdague | what's up with the CV and TV columns in gerrit? | 19:34 |
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| mordred | sdague: it seems that the summary page shows all caterogies | 19:36 |
| fungi | sdague: are you looking at a screen which includes governance and infra-specs changes? | 19:36 |
| sdague | yes, it does | 19:36 |
| sdague | fungi: yes, I suppose they might be in there | 19:36 |
| fungi | wondering whether gerrit dynamically adds them in review lists | 19:36 |
| mordred | they're in mine too | 19:37 |
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| sdague | I do have a governance and infra-spec change in My Reviews page | 19:37 |
| fungi | yep, looks like it's dynamic | 19:37 |
| sdague | yeh, it's dynamic | 19:37 |
| fungi | depends on which changes you have in the displayed list, based on my query tests | 19:37 |
| sdague | I deleted myself off the infra-spec change and it went away | 19:38 |
| sdague | ok, just surprised that new columns in gerrit wouldn't get a mention on the ML, because they were kind of surprising | 19:38 |
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| fungi | gertty seems to add them dynamically as well | 19:38 |
| fungi | my "my changes" f2 dashboard includes an open governance change, and gertty adds a T vote column | 19:40 |
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| fungi | though for the infra-specs columns, it doesn't clearly differentiate between the to C vote types | 19:40 |
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| sdague | yeh, well, gerrit uses 2 char codes for those. What is Council-Vote ? | 19:42 |
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| fungi | sdague: it's where you, as a core reviewer of an infra repo, can register your appreciation or concerns over an infra spec | 19:42 |
| fungi | sdague: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/project.html#teams | 19:43 |
| fungi | an upshot of the infra governance refactoring | 19:43 |
| sdague | ok, gotcha. | 19:44 |
| fungi | it's analogous to the tc vote on the governance repo | 19:44 |
| fungi | so that it can be separated from the code review vote | 19:45 |
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| sdague | is this largely because of the lack of filters by group? or is there another reason one would expect a split CR, CV vote? | 19:47 |
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| mordred | sdague: similar to tc ... its a talleyed vote, not a code review, so the semantics are a tad different | 19:49 |
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| sdague | ok, well my brain is still getting back into OpenStack mode. I guess if it's the same concept as the TC vote field it might be nice to have a consolidated column for Concept Vote or something. But I'm probably an edge case to see all these columns show up all of the sudden. | 19:53 |
| anteaya | sdague: you mordred and jeblair would be the only ones with the experience you are having | 19:53 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ^^ I wonder if maybe there should be a general category for votes that the tc and infra council each make use of ... could open up the door for other projects to have a vote column on specs repos without proliferation | 19:53 |
| mordred | sdague: jinx | 19:54 |
| sdague | :) | 19:54 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i'm not sure "more projects" and "without proliferation" are conceptually compatible :) | 19:55 |
| mordred | I meant without category proliferation | 19:55 |
| mordred | I'd hate for Nova to like this idea and add a nova-vote category | 19:56 |
| jeblair | mordred: if they have the same name, it is not clear to me that they would still share a column. someone should test that. | 19:56 |
| mordred | nod | 19:57 |
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| jeblair | mordred: and regardless of whether they share a name or not, they would still need to be defined in each repo unless we wanted them in all repos | 19:57 |
| mordred | yes ... totally | 19:57 |
| mordred | I think it's definetly a per-repo concept | 19:58 |
| mordred | question of whether we can consolidated verbiage for like concepts | 19:58 |
| jeblair | and it's hard for me to imagine this scaling out beyond tc, cross-repo-specs, infra, and maybe oslo | 19:58 |
| mordred | might not be able to | 19:58 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i'm open to sharing a word, but the only one i can think of is "Vote" and that's probably more confusing :/ | 19:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add akanda-horizon to $PROJECTS https://review.openstack.org/187310 | 20:00 |
| anteaya | tally, choice, ticket, decision, pick, rating, decree, opt, tap, set | 20:01 |
| mordred | decree!!!! | 20:01 |
| * anteaya likes my thesaurus.com | 20:01 | |
| sdague | jeblair: rollcall vote? | 20:02 |
| anteaya | mordred: figured you'd like that one | 20:02 |
| clarkb | dhellmann +2 | 20:02 |
| anteaya | I'm going to see if I can get a walk in | 20:03 |
| sdague | yeh, I don't know about naming, it does seem weird though that in these cases the columns reference the team in question, which has never been true of columns. They were always generic things and teams were applied via ACL. | 20:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | I was wondering if anyone might want to +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186629/ while they're around =P | 20:07 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: Regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187248/ and WSME>=0.7 | 20:07 |
| jeblair | sdague: ftr, i did send the proposal to the list here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056788.html | 20:08 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: openstack/ironic will need to make sure that WSME>=0.7 or the python34 test job will fail. Once I remove the 'simplegeneric' require in tox.ini. | 20:08 |
| dhellmann | clarkb: thanks! | 20:08 |
| jeblair | sdague: i did not send a followup announcement because it only affected a handful of people. i figured the tc would figure it out; also i mentioned it at last weeks meeting. | 20:08 |
| dhellmann | jlvillal: as long as ironic isn't capping WSME it should get the latest release automatically | 20:09 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: Do you suggest we don't update the global-requirements and just assume that 0.7 will be downloaded because it is the latest version? | 20:09 |
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| dhellmann | jlvillal: that's what we usually do for bug fixes | 20:09 |
| jeblair | sdague: (i did not propose any changes to x-project-specs because i'm waiting to see what the outcome of the subgroup is; didn't want to disrupt that) | 20:09 |
| dansmith | fungi: jeblair: I haven't seen the truncation in about an hour of running with gzip | 20:09 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: Okay. I will update my patch to not depend on it. And abandon the global-requirements change. Thank you. | 20:09 |
| sdague | jeblair: ok, no prob. I was out last week, and I was surprised it popped up. And hence came asking questions. | 20:09 |
| jeblair | dansmith: that is :) and :( | 20:10 |
| dansmith | jeblair: yeah | 20:10 |
| dansmith | jeblair: data point at least | 20:10 |
| dhellmann | jlvillal: ok, thanks | 20:10 |
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| jeblair | sdague: yeah, mild suprise understandable; just wanted to make sure you didn't think i was a total cowboy :) | 20:10 |
| jeblair | i do not have the right hat for that (though i used to) | 20:11 |
| jeblair | sdague: i could get behind 'rollcall vote' | 20:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: update openstackclient requirement to 1.0.3 https://review.openstack.org/186919 | 20:12 |
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| fungi | dansmith: yeah, i have a feeling this is something going on in apache, and the content type change comes close to cinching it | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Boris Pavlovic proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Improve Rally ACL rules https://review.openstack.org/187196 | 20:13 |
| dansmith | fungi: yeah | 20:13 |
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| dansmith | fungi: have you reproduced it locally? | 20:13 |
| jeblair | sdague, mordred: and yeah, i have "C C T V W" in my personal gertty list :) | 20:14 |
| sdague | It's CR, CV, TV, V, W in gerrit | 20:14 |
| jeblair | sdague: "rollcall vote" is better than "vote" because Vote and Verified will both translate to V | 20:14 |
| fungi | dansmith: not yet, i was pulled onto something else but am putting together a local recreation now. i want to try it behind apache straight to the api socket on the loopback too and compare results | 20:14 |
| sdague | right :) | 20:14 |
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| jeblair | sdague: apparently customizing the abbreviation is a feature they removed in 2.10 (so i did not do so for our 2.8 install) | 20:15 |
| sdague | oh, interesting | 20:16 |
| sdague | I did not realize that | 20:16 |
| jeblair | at least, the documentation for it disappeared | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add spec for shade https://review.openstack.org/187312 | 20:17 |
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| dansmith | fungi: ah, cool | 20:19 |
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| mordred | jeblair: there yah go | 20:20 |
| mordred | Shrews, SpamapS, greghaynes, dguerri: ^^ I signed you all up for things | 20:20 |
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| dguerri | mordred: nice! | 20:29 |
| fungi | dansmith: interesting data point... i'm unable to reproduce this behavior so far with wget. i wonder whether it does something to work around it | 20:29 |
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| dansmith | fungi: hmm, I dunno.. there is some way to do chunked-encoding of the payload, right? maybe wget is doing that? | 20:31 |
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| fungi | good question. wget 1.13 and later seems to do http/1.1 chunked transfer | 20:32 |
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| jeblair | mordred, sdague: i believe that if they share the same name, the columns will collapse: https://review-dev.openstack.org//#/q/status:open | 20:35 |
| jeblair | mordred, sdague: i added TC-Vote to gtest2 and gtest on review-dev | 20:35 |
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| fungi | jeblair: that would make sense, as code-review on individual repos is collapsed with the one from all-projects | 20:36 |
| fungi | workflow too | 20:36 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, though they share an actual definition in All-projects, so i didn't want to assume that would be the case | 20:36 |
| fungi | fair enough | 20:36 |
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| sigmavirus24 | dansmith: I saw something about chunked encoding, is this a problem with one of the clients/requests? | 20:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove stable cross-test jobs from cliff https://review.openstack.org/186856 | 20:40 |
| dansmith | sigmavirus24: no, this is related to zuul | 20:40 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ah okay | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use "Rollcall-Vote" for TC and infra-council https://review.openstack.org/187326 | 20:41 |
| jeblair | mordred, sdague: let the bikeshedding commence ^ :) | 20:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vinod Pandarinathan proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Removed white spaces .. Changes to be committed: modified: cloudpulse-team-meeting.yaml https://review.openstack.org/187328 | 20:45 |
| mordred | jeblair: I like purple | 20:46 |
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| sridhar_ram1 | anteaya: sounds good | 20:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Python 3.4 as a non-voting check to Bandit https://review.openstack.org/186629 | 20:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | So I owe someone beers. I just rebased ^ and it didn't wipe out all of the votes on it. I'm amazed | 20:58 |
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| fungi | sigmavirus24: formerly implemented as a "trivial rebase detection" hook script, now gerrit has it built in and calls it copyAllScoresOnTrivialRebase | 20:59 |
| sigmavirus24 | huh | 20:59 |
| fungi | https://review.openstack.org/Documentation/config-labels.html#label_copyAllScoresOnTrivialRebase | 20:59 |
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| fungi | it basically computes the git patch-id and then compares it | 21:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | that's awesome | 21:00 |
| sigmavirus24 | Well, I guess whoever worked on updating our version of gerrit then | 21:00 |
| fungi | which is arguably dangerous since git is c-centric, so considers whitespace changes purely cosmetic | 21:00 |
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| fungi | dansmith: confirmed i can reproduce this trivially with urllib2 | 21:04 |
| dansmith | fungi: cool | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | fungi: I mean... "cool" | 21:04 |
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| fungi | out of curiosity i tried some tips on dealing with chunked transfers in urllub2 just in case that's the issue. so far doesn't seem to have helped | 21:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Somay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Improvement in the Robot Framework Plugin https://review.openstack.org/187343 | 21:15 |
| fungi | jeblair: though the badstatusline errors (which i get with urllib2 even when gzipping but not with wget) looks like it could possibly be https://bugs.python.org/issue6785 | 21:15 |
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| fungi | though it seems unlikely that apache would do that | 21:15 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i didn't actually try to print out what urllib2 got | 21:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: also relevant: 2015-05-28 10:39:59,098 Offline due to: ('Connection aborted.', BadStatusLine("''",)) | 21:16 |
| jeblair | from gertty <-> gerrit ^ | 21:16 |
| fungi | urgh | 21:16 |
| jeblair | of course that's using requests and other shiny new things | 21:16 |
| jeblair | (and again, i don't actually know what it received) | 21:17 |
| jeblair | i mean, it kind of looks like it's saying it got the empty string. i'm still not sure where to go with that. | 21:17 |
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| mordred | Clint, dguerri: thanks for the comments ^^ I hopefully clarified my thinking on plugins | 21:18 |
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| mordred | jeblair, fungi: I'm not caught up on what you're working on - but the other day I had to monkeypatch (read: edit system installed file by hand) urllib3 to get it to print out EXACTLY what it was about to do to debug something | 21:19 |
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| dguerri | mordred: yes. I see it now. | 21:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Bump up to oslo.log 1.2.0 for versionutils https://review.openstack.org/187347 | 21:22 |
| * Clint nods. | 21:23 | |
| jeblair | sdague: would like your input on https://review.openstack.org/180968 | 21:25 |
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| sdague | jeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187326/1 +2 from me | 21:31 |
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| sdague | jeblair: and, I agree with you on the devstack ssl thing, definitely needs more context, that's the first I've seen. | 21:31 |
| jeblair | kk | 21:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add functional tests for object service https://review.openstack.org/187296 | 21:33 |
| ningyan | jeblair: I have an ICLA issue when the agreement is signed but git review is failing | 21:33 |
| ningyan | any help? | 21:33 |
| greghaynes | mordred: left you some comments on the spec | 21:33 |
| greghaynes | mordred: only one of which I think really matters | 21:34 |
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| greghaynes | mordred: basically, our rax image uploading support is at odds with whats in there about everything working against devstack | 21:35 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: yes. I thought about calling that out specifically | 21:38 |
| mordred | greghaynes: let me take a pass at it | 21:38 |
| greghaynes | I am curious what our stance should be on that in general | 21:39 |
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| jeblair | get more clouds for nodepool so we have leverage to turn off non-openstack clouds? | 21:39 |
| mordred | well, I think the stance should be that we should require devstack tests ... unless it's a thing that we have to do for nodepool and one of our cloud providers is doing something we can't otherwise test | 21:39 |
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| mordred | jeblair: that too | 21:39 |
| mordred | which is to say - nodepool practical concerns win | 21:40 |
| mordred | right after that, hardline stance on devstack testability | 21:40 |
| fungi | ningyan: did you update contact information in gerrit? http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup | 21:40 |
| greghaynes | Yea, could be a "we have some legacy support from nodepool but we wont allow this in the future" | 21:40 |
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| mordred | yah | 21:40 |
| mordred | well, we might choose to allow it in the future if there is something else essential to nodepool that we can do in production but can't dupllcate in devstack | 21:41 |
| mordred | I mean, I agree with the intent | 21:41 |
| fungi | ningyan: go to https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact and update it if it doesn't already say "Contact information last updated on [some date and time]" | 21:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Define MidoNet v2 devstack-gate jobs https://review.openstack.org/181932 | 21:42 |
| jeblair | let's be honest, it's hypocritical, and if anyone other than rax were doing it, we'd probably say 'no way'. | 21:43 |
| jeblair | because i don't know where we draw the line and say that shade isn't going to support someone's proprietary api extension and yet include this. | 21:44 |
| mordred | indeed | 21:44 |
| jeblair | so i'm okay with us being honest with that, and saying we're making an exception to our rule for this. but it's still a rule, and we want to correct the exception. | 21:44 |
| mordred | agree | 21:45 |
| mordred | ok - I've got to AFK | 21:45 |
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| fungi | dansmith: jeblair: i find that if i loop over the urlopen read() until it's empty, i get waaaay fewer truncated responses | 21:48 |
| dansmith | oh? | 21:48 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh it works _that_ way? :) | 21:48 |
| fungi | seems its read() method may not return all the data it received even if you don't specify a length | 21:48 |
| dansmith | but but... | 21:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Create site for apps.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/187018 | 21:49 |
| jeblair | so when they say 'file-object like' they mean 'vaguely resembling a file-object in surface appearance' :) | 21:49 |
| fungi | heh | 21:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add grafyaml into openstack-infra https://review.openstack.org/182045 | 21:49 |
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| jeblair | fungi: do you know if anyone is doing an apps.o.o spec? | 21:50 |
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| dansmith | fungi: so you said "way fewer".. does that mean it still happens at times? | 21:50 |
| fungi | jeblair: i was planning to start one this afternoon, unless you were wanting to take a crack at it | 21:50 |
| jeblair | fungi: nope, all yours | 21:50 |
| docaedo | jeblair: fungi: let me know if I can help or if there's anything I should take care of | 21:50 |
| dansmith | way fewer is probably enough to make me stop complaining though :) | 21:50 |
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| fungi | dansmith: in 10 minutes (with a 1 second pause between requests) i've hit one "ValueError: end is out of bounds" | 21:51 |
| jeblair | docaedo: oh, nice to irc-meet you! :) | 21:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Removed old js-based test job. https://review.openstack.org/182088 | 21:51 |
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| dansmith | fungi: okay cool. that plus gzip probably means I'll never notice | 21:51 |
| dansmith | fungi: any idea what is up with the bad header thing? | 21:51 |
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| dansmith | fungi: er, bad status line or whatever | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Deprecated js-test build. https://review.openstack.org/182089 | 21:51 |
| fungi | dansmith: no idea yet | 21:51 |
| ningyan | fungi: thanks. I got it to work now | 21:52 |
| docaedo | was just about to ask for a little help on puppet-apps_site - when I run locally seems like it mostly works except ServerName becomes "*", and I can't figure out why | 21:52 |
| docaedo | jeblair: nice to meet here as well! | 21:52 |
| fungi | docaedo: oh, i suspect i know why... looking closer now | 21:52 |
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| docaedo | fungi: thanks :) | 21:53 |
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| zaro | clarkb: please take a look https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/68149/ | 21:55 |
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| fungi | docaedo: see inline comment | 21:56 |
| docaedo | fungi: on it, thanks | 21:56 |
| fungi | docaedo: i ran into exactly that on the puppet-zuul repo not long ago | 21:56 |
| fungi | scoping always gets me in puppet | 21:57 |
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| docaedo | fungi: that did it, thanks! | 21:58 |
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| fungi | dansmith: jeblair: the read looping might have also just been a lucky coincidence. i got a couple more truncated responses a few minutes apart. not often, but definitely still happening | 21:59 |
| fungi | though it's maybe one out of ever few hundred requests | 21:59 |
| fungi | er, every | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Davide Guerri proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add Neutron/Nova Floating IP list/search/get https://review.openstack.org/183496 | 21:59 |
| fungi | anyway, shifting gears to the other stuff i was supposed to get done | 22:00 |
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| tonyb | ttx, fungi, jeblair: Thanks. I'll use my new found powers only for good :) | 22:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Switch all tripleo Fedora jobs to F21 https://review.openstack.org/183513 | 22:31 |
| jhesketh | Morning | 22:31 |
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| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 22:36 |
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| anteaya | tonyb: ah 'tis the definition of good that can be tricky | 22:36 |
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| tonyb | anteaya: sad but true :) | 22:37 |
| fungi | i use my powers only for beer | 22:38 |
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| anteaya | there's an honest affirmation! | 22:39 |
| anteaya | tonyb: congratulations :) | 22:39 |
| anteaya | someone send me some warm weather | 22:41 |
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| tonyb | anteaya: I would but it's just gotten above freezing here. it was -8(c) when I was out this morning. | 22:44 |
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| fungi | my wife and i went walking up the island this morning around sunrise... ~20c and 80% humidity with a 5-10kph breeze | 22:46 |
| fungi | unfortunately, the tourists are starting to arrive in droves | 22:46 |
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| tonyb | fungi: sounds nice. | 22:50 |
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| jeblair | anyone used dib to make a raspberry pi image? would that work? | 22:51 |
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| clarkb | the other clark was if I have my names straight | 22:51 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: There is arm support so it should work | 22:51 |
| clarkb | for arm in general | 22:51 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: that being said, no idea how you do the uboot magic that I think raspi needs | 22:52 |
| greghaynes | but, I would be up for hacking on it on some of my hardware | 22:52 |
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| clarkb | you could have dib not do the fs stuff then dd it into parition alongside uboot? | 22:52 |
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| clarkb | er partition stufg | 22:53 |
| greghaynes | well, if you dont include the vm element it doesnt do the partitioning stuff | 22:53 |
| greghaynes | but it would be awesome to make that stuff just magically work | 22:53 |
| clarkb | ya | 22:53 |
| fungi | yeah, no idea. tonight's hardware fun after my current meeting wraps up is to get openbsd 5.7 installed on a pair of pc engines apu1d4 boards | 22:53 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: hahah | 22:53 |
| fungi | but it's x86 not arm | 22:53 |
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| fungi | i'll be back to hacking on beaglebones this weekend for arm fun | 22:54 |
| jeblair | my rpiB2 that i'm using to prototype a summit streaming box arrived, and i figured if i get this working, it would be nice to implement the whole thing as a a dib element(s) in a repo we can all hack on | 22:54 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: oh, no BBB? | 22:54 |
| greghaynes | but yes, ++ on the dib idea, should be totally doable | 22:54 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: i need two usb ports (and didn't want to stick a hub on it), one for the mic, and one for wifi | 22:55 |
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| greghaynes | ah | 22:55 |
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| fungi | ooh, the rpi2b is quad core at least | 22:55 |
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| fungi | jeblair: there's actually a second usb port on the bbb, but it's exposed as pins on the stacking headers | 22:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i looked for a sbc with built-in wifi, but there aren't many, and plus it might be nice to replace that part when 802.11<next thing> comes along | 22:56 |
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| jeblair | fungi: er, really? i could have sworn i looked at the pinout and did not see that | 22:56 |
| greghaynes | I dont think its direct usb pins, I think you have to make a little control circuit for it | 22:56 |
| clarkb | jeblair those intek boards have it | 22:56 |
| fungi | jeblair: vcc+/- et cetera (it doesn't call them "usb" specifically) | 22:56 |
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| greghaynes | just a couple caps and resistors though | 22:57 |
| clarkb | *intel | 22:57 |
| clarkb | but cost more | 22:57 |
| greghaynes | anyhow, RBP is doing some good open source stuff lately I hear, so im not terribly offended ;) | 22:58 |
| Clint | jeblair: i can probably get you a dreamplug if that's in any way appealing | 22:58 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, that added up by the time you add the usb + audio out, etc... | 22:58 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: where did you get your rbp? | 22:59 |
| jeblair | mcm | 22:59 |
| greghaynes | ok, I might order one so I can poke at it too | 22:59 |
| jeblair | i spent the weekend testing out usb mics; i think i found a good one and have a workable jack setup | 22:59 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: cool :) | 23:00 |
| jeblair | so i should start by trying to get a debian minimal element plus, say, an element to install my ssh key building an image i can boot on my rpi | 23:01 |
| jeblair | ? | 23:01 |
| harlowja | qq, can i get oslo-core added to https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/928,members | 23:02 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: Yea, there were some oddities about debian and arm that I dont know if weve gotten entirely figured out - I think we documented them in the debian-minimal readme | 23:02 |
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| dims___ | ++ harlowja | 23:02 |
| greghaynes | basically there are many arm kernel variants IIRC | 23:02 |
| greghaynes | and they areny properly described by the arch setting | 23:02 |
| harlowja | and oslo-release added to https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/929,members | 23:03 |
| harlowja | much appreciated :) | 23:03 |
| harlowja | both are part of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.utils/+spec/adopt-futurist | 23:04 |
| fungi | oh, actually those are vdd pins on the bbb cape headers, not vcc. i stand corrected | 23:04 |
| fungi | i'm going to need to rethink my design around that | 23:04 |
| fungi | i did find an open hardware design for a usb hub though, which i suppose i could integrate | 23:05 |
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| fungi | but yeah, the rpi2b looks awesome. also built-in wireless is a big plus | 23:05 |
| jeblair | fungi: rpi2b doesn't have built-in wifi, but does have enough usb ports for an adapter | 23:06 |
| clarkb | note broadcom was just pruchased and iirc the open source stuff largely depended on them. | 23:06 |
| greghaynes | oh? | 23:06 |
| greghaynes | yea, brcm hired eric anholt to write opensource video drivers | 23:07 |
| clarkb | yup by an HP/agilent spin off | 23:07 |
| greghaynes | so, I wonder what that means | 23:07 |
| greghaynes | huh | 23:07 |
| jeblair | (at any rate, this is all a prototype, and if we decide to replace the computer, that shouldn't be too hard) | 23:07 |
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| jeblair | rpi2b was among the cheapest and met minimal requirements | 23:07 |
| greghaynes | yep, SGTM | 23:08 |
| jeblair | i wonder if i should try to point dib at raspbian, or use the straight debian archives? | 23:08 |
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| greghaynes | I think it would be awesome to use the debian archives, but I dont know what all raspbian has that is different... | 23:09 |
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| jeblair | neither do i :) | 23:09 |
| greghaynes | "Raspbian is an unofficial port of Debian wheezy armhf with compilation settings adjusted to produce code that uses "hardware floating point", the "hard float" ABI and will run on the Raspberry Pi" | 23:10 |
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| fungi | yeah, i suspect the armhf arch in squeeze would work. worth a try | 23:10 |
| fungi | the trick is probably going to be kernels | 23:11 |
| fungi | er, s/squeeze/jessie/ | 23:11 |
| greghaynes | yep, that sounds like what we ran into in dib | 23:11 |
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| greghaynes | so I think you need to export a specific kernel package if using arm | 23:11 |
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| jeblair | http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ | 23:12 |
| fungi | looks very close | 23:12 |
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| fungi | and a very modern kernel, unlike a lot of the arm-based soc vendors are supporting | 23:13 |
| fungi | i'm very annoyed with rockchip, who are churning out new processors which still only support very hacked-up linux 3.0.1 kernels | 23:14 |
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| fungi | android is a plague | 23:14 |
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| jeblair | those are potential break-everything jenkins-script changes ^ | 23:18 |
| jeblair | (for tomorrow's images) | 23:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add second job for lbaasv1 API https://review.openstack.org/184870 | 23:21 |
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| fungi | thanks. i'll keep an eye out | 23:22 |
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| fungi | and then i'll blame StevenK no matter what breaks ;_ | 23:23 |
| fungi | ;) | 23:23 |
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| StevenK | Argh. Yeah | 23:25 |
| StevenK | fungi: Thanks for keeping an eye out | 23:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Stackforge project Mercador https://review.openstack.org/186906 | 23:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Stackforge project Mercador, part 3. https://review.openstack.org/186972 | 23:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Geoff Arnold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Stackforge project Mercador, part 2. https://review.openstack.org/186967 | 23:27 |
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| jeblair | greghaynes: so my understanding is that i want to add the https://repositories.collabora.co.uk/debian/ apt repo and install those 3 packages (linux, raspberrypi-firmware-nokernel and flash-kernel). based on http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ | 23:30 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: and the debootstrap element says: KERNEL_PACKAGE="linux-image-$KERNEL" | 23:31 |
| jeblair | so that seems like a naming incompatibility | 23:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add beaker boilerplate to openstackci https://review.openstack.org/184891 | 23:32 |
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| jeblair | i wonder if it's possible to run the debian-minimal element with a kernel that's present in debian, then run an element on top of that to replace it with the correct one? | 23:35 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: huh. is linux the kernel package? | 23:36 |
| greghaynes | or flask-kernel | 23:36 |
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| jeblair | greghaynes: linux; flash-kernel is a boot utility | 23:36 |
| jeblair | i think that might be the magic clarkb was talking about | 23:36 |
| Clint | greghaynes: flash-kernel mostly just runs mkimage | 23:36 |
| greghaynes | ah | 23:37 |
| Clint | (and does not flash a kernel to anything) | 23:37 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: maybe we should make the KERNEL_PACKAGE variable specify a full kernel package name | 23:38 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: do you want to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184905/ ? I can if you're cool with that | 23:39 |
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| jeblair | nibalizer: go for it, thanks :) | 23:39 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: if we did that, we'd also need to add the additional repo; is there a way to do that? | 23:40 |
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| lifeless | hi | 23:40 |
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| greghaynes | jeblair: yes, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/diskimage-builder/elements/apt-sources/README.html | 23:40 |
| lifeless | so, pip 7.0.0 and pip 7.0.1 are incompatible with our requirements files and update.py. 7.0.2 will fix this. | 23:41 |
| lifeless | I'm working with dstufft to get that released asap. | 23:41 |
| dstufft | I just pushed 7.0.2 to PyPI | 23:41 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: cool, thanks; i promise i'm reading things :) | 23:41 |
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| dstufft | poking at virtualenv now | 23:41 |
| lifeless | but - we won't want to promote images with 7.0.{0,1} | 23:41 |
| lifeless | dstufft: cool | 23:41 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: hah, im just happy were getting more use cases :) | 23:41 |
| fungi | i think we've not yet upgraded to virtualenv 13 anyway, so just as well i guess | 23:42 |
| lifeless | and we will want to build ones with 7.0.2 once the new virtualenv comes out :) | 23:42 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: so if i wanted to try that out, i can 'pip install -e .' dib and then edit the elements in place? | 23:42 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: (i have it installed from pypi now) | 23:42 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: -e in venv is broken I think (we dont copy some scripts we depend on) | 23:43 |
| lifeless | dstufft: please ping me the new virtualenv version when you know it so I can update our pin | 23:43 |
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| dstufft | lifeless: it'll be 13.0.2, but it's not released yet | 23:43 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: so you need to export diskimage-builder/bin and dib-utils/bin into your PATH | 23:43 |
| lifeless | dstufft: yeah, but I can put up the review for that now | 23:44 |
| greghaynes | jeblair: and thats all you should need to do (rather than pip install) | 23:44 |
| jeblair | greghaynes: ok, thanks | 23:44 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update virtualenv to get pip 7.0.2. https://review.openstack.org/186869 | 23:45 |
| lifeless | fungi: and there ^ we have it | 23:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add functional tests for object service https://review.openstack.org/187296 | 23:46 |
| fungi | thanks lifeless! | 23:46 |
| asselin | jeblair, hi, what do you think about doing another mini-virtual-sprint for common ci effort? | 23:47 |
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| jeblair | asselin: i think that would be a good fit | 23:49 |
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| asselin | jeblair, ok I see about setting something up then...say towards the mid-end of june | 23:49 |
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| lifeless | ok | 23:50 |
| lifeless | lunchtime. Then requirements-management work starts | 23:51 |
| lifeless | dstufft: when you release virtualenv, let me know, and I can pester mordred, jeblair etc etc for a +2 on using it :) | 23:52 |
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| fungi | lifeless: when you're done lunching, what specifically was the requirements parsing issue before pip 7.0.2? | 23:55 |
| fungi | got me curious | 23:55 |
| lifeless | fungi: https://github.com/dstufft/pip/commit/224c62564612392a185906883ac26cc9ade0dff7 | 23:58 |
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| fungi | lifeless: heh, thanks. too fun | 23:58 |
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