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| clarkb | https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/2522 updated with what we see on etherpad-dev | 00:11 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, so I've been having significant problems with builds failing for random intermittent reasons. Given the same exact patch, I've had it pass, fail in grenade, unstable in tempest, fail in devstack, fail in docs, all at different times and in different rechecks. The build itself takes up to 2 hours, so it's more than a little frustrating when I have +2A on a thing I've been pushing for weeks. What's going on? | 00:45 |
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| pabelanger | zaro, yes, the team is aware of it. | 00:54 |
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| pabelanger | zaro, not sure if they sent out a message or not. However, I can find out | 00:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add agenda page URL to Refstack team meeting. https://review.openstack.org/197365 | 01:07 |
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| ianw | i think i figured out why centos6 era git is so slow over https -> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1237395 | 01:58 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1237395 in git "extremley slow https clone performance" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to pstodulk | 01:59 |
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| ianw | so hopefully the way forward on that is to fix the package (from today's meeting) | 01:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Be clear about when a failure occurs. https://review.openstack.org/197399 | 02:30 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Really fix requirement checking. https://review.openstack.org/197400 | 02:30 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Really fix requirement checking. https://review.openstack.org/197400 | 02:31 |
| lifeless | mordred: fungi: jhesketh: AJaeger: - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197400/ <- really fix things. | 02:32 |
| lifeless | this time with lots of manual testing | 02:32 |
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| jhesketh | lifeless: little nit | 02:35 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: btw flaper87 is putting in a talk proposal for us | 02:36 |
| jhesketh | oh cool :-) | 02:36 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: replied in the review | 02:37 |
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| jhesketh | lifeless: ah thanks, lgtm | 02:40 |
| jhesketh | lifeless: although why was the head reqs not strict previously? will this break anything | 02:40 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: I think I inverted it in a prior patch | 02:40 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: the idea is that whats in master / stable/kilo etc should not be allowed to cause a failure | 02:41 |
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| jhesketh | yep, I agree this new one looks right | 02:41 |
| jhesketh | just curious | 02:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update the TripleO meeting schedule https://review.openstack.org/197202 | 03:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update Puppet OpenStack meeting informations https://review.openstack.org/197407 | 03:24 |
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| lifeless | holy cow | 03:31 |
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| lifeless | its green | 03:31 |
| lifeless | SHIP IT | 03:31 |
| lifeless | (constraints) | 03:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: refactorize puppet-syntax job https://review.openstack.org/197216 | 03:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: add puppet-unit-latest job https://review.openstack.org/197218 | 03:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: do not run beaker/upgrade jobs on old branches https://review.openstack.org/197219 | 03:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman https://review.openstack.org/195175 | 04:06 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Run geard for nodepool tests https://review.openstack.org/194928 | 04:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Don Dugger proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: New meeting time https://review.openstack.org/197412 | 04:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update Puppet OpenStack meeting informations https://review.openstack.org/197407 | 04:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anand Shanmugam proposed openstack/requirements: Adding cloudpulse and cloudpulseclient to projects https://review.openstack.org/196004 | 04:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update Puppet OpenStack meeting informations https://review.openstack.org/197407 | 04:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jens Rosenboom proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Be more careful when config options are not set https://review.openstack.org/190526 | 05:31 |
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| lifeless | ok so constraints are ready | 05:57 |
| lifeless | oh gnarg. a failure I missed. | 05:58 |
| lifeless | in 1 hr we'll know | 05:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create automated job for sample configuration files https://review.openstack.org/177620 | 06:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Normalize projects.yaml proposal https://review.openstack.org/197443 | 06:40 |
| blaedd | lifeless, tests take an hour to run? eww. | 06:42 |
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| Murad | does anybody have any idea how in install devstack with infiniband interface? | 06:46 |
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| clarkb | Murad I am not aware of any direct support. IPoIB is likely your best bet with devstack | 07:01 |
| clarkb | for not devstacj I believe there is a neutron plugin for mellanox | 07:02 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb, fungi, pleia2: The change we did for the proposal jobs works fine and is needed as well here: https://review.openstack.org/197443 - please review to unbreak that job | 07:06 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger does that work if the branch already exists? | 07:09 |
| AJaeger | the -B ensures that | 07:09 |
| clarkb | or does checkout -B fail on the second run? these are not single use nodes so this may break | 07:09 |
| AJaeger | " If -B is given, <new_branch> is created if it doesn’t exist; otherwise, it is reset" | 07:10 |
| clarkb | oh -B is dont dail if exists on top of -b? | 07:10 |
| clarkb | cool thanks | 07:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Really fix requirement checking. https://review.openstack.org/197400 | 07:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peng Wu proposed openstack-infra/project-config: This draft patch is created for more-gettext-support jenkins jobs. https://review.openstack.org/197448 | 07:12 |
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| Jeffrey4l | is there any block rules exist in review.openstack.org? | 07:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | I can not connect the gerrit server | 07:34 |
| mrunge | Jeffrey4l, are you located in China? | 07:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | yup | 07:35 |
| mrunge | congrats. Great wall of china blocks it | 07:35 |
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| mrunge | Jeffrey4l, this question was asked several times in the past. Recommendation was, to use a tunnel | 07:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | holly shit | 07:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | mrunge, thanks you. | 07:36 |
| mrunge | Jeffrey4l, good luck | 07:36 |
| mrunge | this block doesn't make any sense | 07:36 |
| mrunge | I hope it gets fixed | 07:36 |
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| Jeffrey4l | mrunge, yup. But u know, there is no way to request the fix. | 07:38 |
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| mrunge | Jeffrey4l, yes. That's like government agencies work, everywhere | 07:39 |
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| lifeless | blaedd: devstack etc | 07:43 |
| lifeless | blaedd: unit tests are much faster | 07:44 |
| clarkb | Jeffrey4l https should work | 07:44 |
| lifeless | blaedd: but the integration tests for the system install a full cloud | 07:44 |
| lifeless | blaedd: and then exercise it | 07:44 |
| lifeless | blaedd: (on multiple nodes) - and they're full VM's not containers | 07:44 |
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| clarkb | Jeffrey4l http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045385.html | 07:45 |
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| Jeffrey4l | clarkb, thanks a lot. u save lots of time for me. I will try that. | 07:46 |
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| lifeless | AHAHAHAHAAH | 07:52 |
| lifeless | killed by my own cleverness: virtualenv was held back by upper-constraints.txt | 07:52 |
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| lifeless | fungi: / mordred: ^ you may appreciate the irony | 07:55 |
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| lifeless | The changeset to test constraints working failed because constraints worked | 07:56 |
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| AJaeger | lifeless: ;) | 07:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack/requirements: Update upper-constraints.txt https://review.openstack.org/197461 | 08:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix script file name for Inspector dsvm job https://review.openstack.org/197453 | 08:02 |
| lifeless | so https://review.openstack.org/197461 should fix it | 08:02 |
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| clarkb | so does everythibg break until we bumo that whenwver virtualenv releases? | 08:07 |
| clarkb | *bump | 08:07 |
| * blaedd runs the tripleo devtest inside a vm on his home machine, and waits for things to explode | 08:07 | |
| clarkb | because that represents a flaw in the system if so | 08:09 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: huh? no, its the pip vendoring | 08:10 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: new virtualenv is needed *in constraints mode* because it has the new pip vendored in it | 08:11 |
| clarkb | gotcha so going forwar is not an issue | 08:12 |
| lifeless | right | 08:12 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Switch to using constraints files. https://review.openstack.org/194886 | 08:13 |
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| lifeless | AJaeger: care to +2+A on https://review.openstack.org/197461 :) | 08:14 |
| lifeless | AJaeger: it only changes upper-constraints.txt which isn't in use yet, so tis a no-brainer | 08:15 |
| AJaeger | lifeless: I don't have +2 permissions there... | 08:15 |
| lifeless | AJaeger: oh, I thought you were infra +2 capable | 08:15 |
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| AJaeger | lifeless: only project-config | 08:27 |
| lifeless | AJaeger: ah, sadness. | 08:27 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: still around ? | 08:27 |
| jhesketh | lifeless: roger | 08:28 |
| AJaeger | no: Focus and thus sanity ;) | 08:28 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: https://review.openstack.org/197461 please :) | 08:28 |
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| GheRivero | lifeless: should we wait for tests to pass? ^^ | 08:32 |
| jhesketh | lifeless: lgtm | 08:32 |
| jhesketh | GheRivero: yes | 08:32 |
| GheRivero | :) | 08:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix Builder.update_job() on Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/172238 | 08:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace open() with codecs.open() https://review.openstack.org/183488 | 08:35 |
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| AJaeger | GheRivero, jhesketh: Jenkins will not allow a merge without tests to pass, so you could approve IMHO unless there are non-voting changes taht you like to review... | 08:37 |
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| * AJaeger normally also waits for the results to double check ;) | 08:37 | |
| jhesketh | AJaeger: yeah it's just a double check | 08:38 |
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| jhesketh | mostly because without reviewing every tiny increment/release of all the updated packages it's hard to know what that change will actually do | 08:39 |
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| lifeless | GheRivero: no :) | 08:43 |
| lifeless | GheRivero: upper-constraints isn't used by anything landed, so it can't possibly affect tests | 08:43 |
| lifeless | jhesketh: GheRivero: ^ - so +A :) | 08:43 |
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| GheRivero | lifeless: done | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul: Status: Fix JSHint violations and commit settings https://review.openstack.org/169957 | 09:00 |
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| lifeless | GheRivero: \o/ thanks | 09:08 |
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| hashar | good morning | 09:19 |
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| KanagarajM | AJaeger: Hi, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195531/ (for heat project) | 09:24 |
| ekarlso | http://pastebin.com/BvGA8t6H < anyone know what's wrong here ? | 09:26 |
| AJaeger | KanagarajM: +2 | 09:27 |
| KanagarajM | AJaeger: thanks | 09:27 |
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| AJaeger | lifeless: could you look at ekarlso's pastebein ^, please? Looks requirements related | 09:27 |
| KanagarajM | SergeyLukjanov: Hi, could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195531/ (for heat project) | 09:29 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | KanagarajM, approved | 09:34 |
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| KanagarajM | SergeyLukjanov: thanks | 09:36 |
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| kashyap | For some reason, some of the repos in `gertty` doesn't sync and Error out after some amount of trying. | 09:38 |
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| lifeless | AJaeger: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/068031.html | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enables job for heat convergence functional test https://review.openstack.org/195531 | 09:40 |
| kashyap | Any clues about this? Also, strangely ~/.gertty.log ends up being a data file. (/me is using the newest upstream release.) | 09:40 |
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| lifeless | ekarlso: ^ | 09:40 |
| * kashyap enables debug logging and checks | 09:41 | |
| AJaeger | lifeless: thanks. Seems really to address ekarlso's problem | 09:42 |
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| ekarlso | lifeless: thnx! | 09:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Update upper-constraints.txt https://review.openstack.org/197461 | 09:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make Sahara python3 job voting https://review.openstack.org/197498 | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/196504 | 10:02 |
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| andrey-mp | Hi! Who can help me to understand how to merge this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ ? | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add fingerprint for Glance upload disconnect https://review.openstack.org/197500 | 10:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: openSUSE: Fix link to the images download folder https://review.openstack.org/197501 | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Antoine Musso proposed openstack-infra/gearman-plugin: Fix deadlock from a WORK_FAIL event https://review.openstack.org/192429 | 10:17 |
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| hafe | when I try to submit the ICLA I get server error - "Cannot store contact information", any ideas? | 10:23 |
| frickler | hafe: the usual response would be to look at https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/56720/cannot-store-contact-information-when-updating-info-in-openstack-gerrit/ | 10:26 |
| hafe | frickler: thanks | 10:27 |
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| andrey-mp | ok, Who can set review on this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ ? | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Florian Wilhelm proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix retrieval of commit data and most recent tag. https://review.openstack.org/197508 | 10:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Florian Wilhelm proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Fix retrieval of commit data and most recent tag. https://review.openstack.org/194954 | 10:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bob Ball proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update XenAPI team meeting https://review.openstack.org/197507 | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update XenAPI team meeting https://review.openstack.org/197507 | 11:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Skripnick proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch rally-heat job to neutron from nova-network https://review.openstack.org/197515 | 11:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update XenAPI team meeting https://review.openstack.org/197507 | 11:11 |
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| BobBall | tonyb: How long does it take for the main page @eavesdrop.openstack.org to be updated with the new meeting time? | 11:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Start using in-tree Sahara Devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/197524 | 11:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrey Kurilin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch rally-heat job to neutron from nova-network https://review.openstack.org/197515 | 11:30 |
| AJaeger | BobBall: this is done via a postjob, see http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ whether yours is run already. Currently it's not. post jobs are run with low priority... | 11:30 |
| Kiall | Hey infra folks - could I get a quick review on a small DSVM job change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196961/ Thanks :) | 11:30 |
| BobBall | Fair enough! | 11:31 |
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| * BobBall will occasionally check then :) | 11:31 | |
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| SergeyLukjanov | Kiall, +2d | 11:34 |
| Kiall | SergeyLukjanov: thanks :) | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kiall Mac Innes proposed openstack/requirements: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to projects https://review.openstack.org/197530 | 11:42 |
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| AJaeger | Kiall, no need to add the whole team to the review... | 11:44 |
| AJaeger | Kiall: +2A | 11:45 |
| Kiall | AJaeger: awesome, and.. I actually only thought the team was like 4 of you :) I added the group and got a surpise! Sorry | 11:45 |
| AJaeger | Kiall: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/459,members - 3 plus all infra cores ;) | 11:46 |
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| Kiall | Heh - I didn't know the infra-core group was included ;) Sorry | 11:46 |
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| andrey-mp | AJaeger, where I can find channel for openstack/requirements ? ) | 11:47 |
| andrey-mp | I'm triyng to find someone who can review my change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ :( | 11:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to designate DSVM gates https://review.openstack.org/196961 | 11:48 |
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| AJaeger | andrey-mp: channel here is fine and to check the list of people that are core, open https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/, click on the text "openstack/requirements", click on "Access" and then on "requirements-core" | 11:49 |
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| AJaeger | andrey-mp: GheRivero was around this morning (European time), others migth be in the US. | 11:50 |
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| andrey-mp | I added all people from both lists several weeks ago :( | 11:50 |
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| AJaeger | andrey-mp: Seems you added too many ;) Better ask them directly - and if you ask here, tell us what it is. | 11:51 |
| andrey-mp | AJaeger, thanks. will do. | 11:51 |
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| AJaeger | andrey-mp: So, instead of asking for a review of X, ask for "review of change X that adds Y to requirements repo to allow us to...". That way the right people will look at it. In this channel, we have dozens of repos and thus many ignore unqualified requests | 11:52 |
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| andrey-mp | ok, thanks for information :) | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Initial unit tests for CLI https://review.openstack.org/189770 | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Fix --version CLI output https://review.openstack.org/189788 | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Always install latest git-review https://review.openstack.org/197203 | 11:57 |
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| andrey-mp | GheRivero, are you here? could you review of change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ that adds 'botocore' to requirements repo to allow us to use it in stackforge/ec2-api project. this library is needed for functional tests of ec2 project. | 11:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix script file name for Inspector dsvm job https://review.openstack.org/197453 | 12:02 |
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| andrey-mp | SergeyLukjanov, could you review of change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ that adds 'botocore' to requirements repo to allow us to use it in stackforge/ec2-api project. this library is needed for functional tests of ec2 project. | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Alpha-sort the cacti host list https://review.openstack.org/191989 | 12:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add apps.openstack.org to cacti https://review.openstack.org/191990 | 12:09 |
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| flaper87 | AJaeger: ping, I forgot what the process to request a new branch is. We need a stable/juno branch for glanceclient to be created out of this tag: https://github.com/openstack/python-glanceclient/commits/0.14.2 | 12:11 |
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| flaper87 | AJaeger: mind refreshing my mind with what the process is ? | 12:11 |
| flaper87 | :D | 12:11 |
| flaper87 | fungi: ^ in case you're around already | 12:11 |
| flaper87 | :) | 12:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Set proper permissions on login.def https://review.openstack.org/190777 | 12:15 |
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| frickler | flaper87: I don't know how to create the branch, but I'm curious: you intend to cut a 0.14.3 including a backport of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156975/? | 12:19 |
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| flaper87 | frickler: that was not the plan but I guess we could consider it :) | 12:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Cap Routes at below 2.0 as 2.1 breaks Nova https://review.openstack.org/196867 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Normalize projects.yaml proposal https://review.openstack.org/197443 | 12:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/196504 | 12:30 |
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| fungi | flaper87: ask the library release managers to handle it, i believe https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/967,members | 12:32 |
| flaper87 | fungi: alright, I can do that. Thank you :) | 12:33 |
| fungi | flaper87: though they may end up involving the release management team to do the actual branch creation after they confirm that's a feasible choice https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/11,members | 12:33 |
| andrey-mp | fungi, could you review of change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ that adds 'botocore' to requirements repo to allow us to use it in stackforge/ec2-api project. this library is needed for functional tests of ec2 project. | 12:34 |
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| fungi | andrey-mp: the infrastructure team generally doesn't vet changes to the global requirements list unless it's to fix infrastructure problems or multi-project gating breakage | 12:35 |
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| fungi | andrey-mp: also i'm not sure what the current criteria are for adding requirements needed only by non-openstack repos | 12:35 |
| andrey-mp | ok, thanks. I will as to requirements-core group | 12:36 |
| andrey-mp | ask | 12:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump python-ironicclient minimal version to 0.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/196618 | 12:48 |
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| GheRivero | andrey-mp: pong. | 12:48 |
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| andrey-mp | GheRivero, ping ) | 12:49 |
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| fungi | oh wow, yesterday's block storage interruptions in rackspace were leapsecond-related! https://status.rackspace.com/index/viewincidents?group=11&start=1435636800 | 12:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add oslo.cache and oslo.reports to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/195058 | 12:51 |
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| andrey-mp | GheRivero, I'm hope to merge this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172335/ before code freeze as I got in Kilo... | 12:52 |
| andrey-mp | We need it for stackforge/ec2-api project | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Szymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/requirements: tooz 0.16.0 or better required https://review.openstack.org/197021 | 12:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/196504 | 12:58 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: i hope i've answered what i think was a question from you on 196907 | 12:59 |
| GheRivero | andrey-mp: We are still in time before code freeze :) | 12:59 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i can't tell if you're still asking (since you didn't vote on the change) or managed to answer it for yourself | 12:59 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: er, sorry, i mean 196906 | 13:00 |
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| fungi | GheRivero: out of curiosity, have we started as policy adding global requirements for non-openstack repos? i haven't been following along on those discussions since the big tent shift | 13:01 |
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| andrey-mp | @GheRivero, thank you very much :) | 13:02 |
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| fungi | just wondering whether this is setting a precedent for every repo in stackforge to start asking to have their requirements added | 13:04 |
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| GheRivero | fungi: Me neither (my bad for approving it withput checking) , but I guess, under the big tent, stackforge should be just a temporary step | 13:11 |
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| fungi | GheRivero: yeah, no idea if we should be encouraging projects to apply for formal recognition by the tc before we start including their requirements in the global requirements list enforcing version constraints on official repos | 13:12 |
| fungi | but i'm happy to leave that decision to the requirements reviewers and the tc | 13:12 |
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| fungi | as a counterexample, i think we've not been letting arbitrary repos publish their documentation on docs.openstack.org until they apply and get their project-team recognized by the tc | 13:14 |
| andrey-mp | fungi - GheRivero is right, we hope that stackforge is temporary step and our project will be moved to openstack in one of next releases. | 13:14 |
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| fungi | andrey-mp: why wait? just propose the addition to the governance repo and ask the tc to add you | 13:15 |
| andrey-mp | we agreed at last summit that our project should be checked by operators and then we will move further | 13:16 |
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| fungi | there's no requirement for project teams or their software to reach any particular "maturity" before applying, and we don't want people to see stackforge as a "stepping stone" (there's a resolution currently being worked through the tc to make it more obvious we don't want people to think they need to "incubate" things in stackforge before applying to be a part of the openstack community) | 13:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add functional test job to python-ironic-inspector-client https://review.openstack.org/197577 | 13:18 |
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| SpamapS | heh.. update on infra-cloud baremetaling.. current wedge is that ironicclient is way too old in Ubuntu cloud archive. | 13:20 |
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| GheRivero | SpamapS: ubuntu? old? I would expect that about Debian | 13:28 |
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| jeblair | fungi: know anything about an ask-staging server? i think it lacks rdns records but is sending me email | 13:31 |
| andrey-mp | fungi, thanks for information. | 13:32 |
| AJaeger | fungi: Regarding 196906: Thanks! I was confused first but then saw the follow up cahnge and your comments... | 13:32 |
| fungi | jeblair: yes, sorry, i'm testing https://review.openstack.org/172880 | 13:33 |
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| jeblair | fungi: no problem | 13:33 |
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| fungi | ihrachyshka_: i finally got around to taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/195923 and left you some comments. i also updated bug 1469067 with some clarification | 13:36 |
| openstack | bug 1469067 in devstack "Devstack always uses soft requirements updates" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1469067 - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 13:36 |
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| fungi | ihrachyshka_: your fix isn't wrong, but it's adding complexity when you could solve it completely by removing code instead | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add a zuul-git-prep builder macro https://review.openstack.org/196906 | 13:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add a zuul-git-prep builder macro https://review.openstack.org/196906 | 13:39 |
| ihrachyshka_ | fungi, ack, thanks, yeah, I get your comment, will update next week | 13:40 |
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| fungi | ihrachyshka_: i'm happy to update it for you now as long as you don't mind | 13:40 |
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| AJaeger | flaper87: you can reach them on #openstack-rel-mgr or so... | 13:41 |
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| ihrachyshka_ | fungi, ok, please do. I'm busy at neutron code sprint this week | 13:42 |
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| flaper87 | AJaeger: yeah, it's done | 13:42 |
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| fungi | ihrachyshka_: done | 13:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Switch constraints proposal to use zuul-git-prep https://review.openstack.org/196907 | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Bump oslo.db to 1.12 https://review.openstack.org/195525 | 13:59 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: hrm | 14:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/196504 | 14:09 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: python-ironicclient in UCA is too old to work with ironic in UCA? | 14:13 |
| mordred | SpamapS: that's strange | 14:13 |
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| openstack | bug 1470302 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate-nova-python27 fails with "RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470302 | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | is it just me, or is latest tox/pip much faster at recreates than it used to be? | 14:18 |
| mriedem | pip > 7, tox > 2 | 14:18 |
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| asselin_ | fbo, ping | 14:29 |
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| asselin_ | fbo, hi, did you see my comments on the common-zuul patches? Id like to knoe your thoughts | 14:34 |
| asselin_ | know* | 14:34 |
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| openstack | bug 1470302 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "gate-nova-python27 fails with "RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470302 - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade openstackid to 1.0.7 https://review.openstack.org/197614 | 14:47 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: and it isn't temporary in memory jgit trouble, appears to affect the repo on disk and require a restore from backup | 14:49 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: that's really weird because apparently jgit's locking is sufficient for running an _external_ gc | 14:50 |
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| fbo- | asselin_, yep I just tested a stuff and I guess you provide $gerrit_ssh_host_identity as a string and not an array. isn't it ? | 14:51 |
| clarkb | jeblair: aiui the issue is what jgit does with the new refs that are being pushed | 14:52 |
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| clarkb | they visit never never land and captain hook holds them hostage | 14:52 |
| asselin_ | fbo-, yes perhaps | 14:52 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, I guess I ran into issues passing in an array? | 14:52 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: captain githook? | 14:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: that'll teach you for installing the "captain" git hook | 14:53 |
| fbo- | got the same error with this snippet http://paste.openstack.org/show/uQ2To8KjlAPXiLA0V6ex/ if I set gerrit_ssh_host_identity as string. | 14:53 |
| fbo- | asselin_, | 14:53 |
| mordred | damn. jeblair beat me to it | 14:53 |
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| fbo- | if it an array it works for me | 14:53 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, so I was thinking to move that logic out to site.pp | 14:53 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, and use a string in openstackci | 14:54 |
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| fungi | wow. that irc server went down _hard_ | 14:55 |
| fungi | mriedem: pip 6 added an optional wheel cache, and pip 7 turned it on by default | 14:55 |
| fungi | mriedem: that speeds up anything which was doing compilation of c extensions in particular, though brings a new liability: if the libraries/headers against which those wheels were built change later, pip won't know those cached wheels need to be rebuilt | 14:55 |
| asselin_ | fbo-, and the string in openstackci is whatever should be put into the ssh known hosts sections w/o any manipulation | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Cody Littley proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fixed crash in exception handler https://review.openstack.org/195172 | 14:56 |
| mriedem | fungi: ok, i figured wheels was being used now | 14:56 |
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| clarkb | fungi: we can probably remove the explicit wheel caching from our scripts then? | 14:57 |
| clarkb | thinking of the requirements check job and devstack | 14:57 |
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| fungi | clarkb: probably, yes | 14:57 |
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| fungi | clarkb: for any that are self-testing, easy enough to see if ripping out that machinery slows anything down | 14:57 |
| clarkb | yup | 14:58 |
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| clarkb | fungi: did you see that the 4 byte utf8 chars broke that etherpad but did not break the service? I have updated the upstream bug with js tracebacks | 14:58 |
| fungi | pleia2: you probably will be interested in reviewing https://review.openstack.org/197614 | 14:58 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think we should go ahead with the DB move friday but not with the utf8 set conversion unless we can test something that works on -dev | 14:58 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, saw your updates | 14:58 |
| clarkb | kk | 14:58 |
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| fungi | clarkb: and i agree moving forward as planned is still better than not | 14:59 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i don't know that skipping the conversion is necessarily warranted. breaking a specific pad is still preferable to taking down the entire service until someone edits the database | 15:00 |
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| clarkb | fungi: thats true my only concern there was the conversion would be lossy but thinking about that a bit more I don't think it can be | 15:01 |
| clarkb | we are going from a smaller representation space to a larger one that is a superset so should not be lossy at all | 15:01 |
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| fbo- | asselin_, so as you want, we just need to rework again that patch. I'm not against it but other reviewers was ok with it | 15:04 |
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| frickler | nibalizer: would you also +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189141/? (yours is the second +2) otherwise whom else should I bug about this? | 15:09 |
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| eantyshev | asselin_, jeblair: hello I think I know approximately why zuul hangups occasionally, and have the proposals, described here https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000309 | 15:17 |
| eantyshev | asselin_, jeblair: hello I think I know approximately why zuul hangups occasionally, and have the proposals, described here https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000309 | 15:17 |
| ttx | mordred: damn you and your PHP, I won't see those last 7 hours of my life again | 15:18 |
| ttx | context: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-July/002885.html | 15:19 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, yea I was also ok...I pinged nibalizer yesterday to get his opinion. | 15:21 |
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| asselin_ | eantyshev, what to you mean by pickle? | 15:24 |
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| fbo- | if you both asselin_ and nibalizer are ok to move the inline_template elsewhere I can rework the patch then | 15:26 |
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| fbo- | but I need I guess some guidance to target what you expect within one patchset | 15:27 |
| asselin_ | fbo-, so the changes are small to rework it. | 15:27 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, in the openstack-ci, let the host key be the full identity string to pass into the config, so no inline template. | 15:28 |
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| fbo- | asselin_, ok | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Lianhao Lu proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Use io.open() to open metadata files https://review.openstack.org/197626 | 15:29 |
| eantyshev | asselin_: that was first false impression, last comment more reasonable:) | 15:29 |
| asselin_ | fbo-, then in the system-config patch you concat the identity and key and pass that in as one string | 15:29 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, b/c at the infra level the ips are static in the puppet file and the host key is in heira, so this is where they should be joined together. | 15:30 |
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| eantyshev | asselin_: and I cannot tell why reconfiguration failed, since that information is lost every time, which is a part of the problem | 15:31 |
| fbo- | asselin_, ok so zuul_merger, zuul_dev, and zuul_prod still take an array as argument ? and I use the inline_template here ? | 15:31 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, let me look again | 15:31 |
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| asselin_ | eantyshev, oh I see...so that error only occurs after running a zuul reload with updated layout.yaml? | 15:32 |
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| eantyshev | asselin_: yes | 15:32 |
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| fbo- | hum before it was hardcoded and not passed as argument in zuul_*.pp | 15:33 |
| eantyshev | asselin_: sorry, have to go right now | 15:33 |
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| fbo- | I can remove that gerrit_ssh_host_identity argument and make it a variable inside the class ? | 15:34 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, variable inside which class? | 15:34 |
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| fbo- | asselin_, yes | 15:35 |
| fbo- | ? | 15:35 |
| asselin_ | fbo-, honestly I thought it should be moved to here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/manifests/site.pp#n554 | 15:36 |
| fbo- | sorry zuul_*.pp in system-config | 15:36 |
| asselin_ | right at the source | 15:36 |
| asselin_ | so this line would have the full identity & key: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/manifests/site.pp#n558 | 15:37 |
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| fbo- | asselin_, ok so after line 558 I add the identities and pass them via gerrit_ssh_host_identity argument. Ok got it i'll do that | 15:39 |
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| asselin_ | fbo-, first, do you agree this is better? | 15:40 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, hi, I've seen that you helped trove with moving devstack from devstack itself to their repo, could you help me with some tips to do the same for sahara? | 15:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, I've done a few patches already - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/sahara-devstack-intree,n,z | 15:43 |
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| jeblair | SergeyLukjanov: yep! let me look | 15:43 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jeblair, great! thx | 15:44 |
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| fbo- | asselin_, to be honest that sounds like a bit the same :) to me. At least the diff is not obvious to me but no matter the most important is it fit all usages and everybody are ok with the change. So I'm ok to implement that request :) | 15:44 |
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| asselin_ | jeblair, if you have a moment, your feedback on the above discussion would be valuable ^^ | 15:45 |
| asselin_ | jeblair, re common zuul patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176010/8 | 15:46 |
| asselin_ | fbo-, jeblair need to step away for a few minutes | 15:47 |
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| fbo- | nibalizer, I'm not sure to understand your comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175970/17/metadata.json because puppet-project_config will be really handy to use for future users of openstackci to target there own "project_config" repo | 15:49 |
| fbo- | asselin_, ok | 15:49 |
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| jeblair | fbo-: asselin_'s idea seems like a good one. i think that eventually that information will end up in a public hiera file when nibalizer finishes his work | 15:50 |
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| jeblair | fbo-: i agree, perhaps nibalizer misread that as referring to our actual project-config repo and not puppet-project_config? | 15:52 |
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| fbo- | jeblair, yes I think the same. | 15:53 |
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| zaro | hashar: hi | 15:55 |
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| zaro | morning | 15:56 |
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| zaro | hashar: replied to your comment in https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-25867 | 15:57 |
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| zaro | hashar: i'm curious whether the changes you picked up made it work for that matrix job? | 15:58 |
| hashar | zaro: hey :) | 15:58 |
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| hashar | zaro: well I have no idea because I can't reproduce the issue | 15:58 |
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| zaro | hashar: occurs randomly? | 15:59 |
| hashar | kind of yeah :) | 16:00 |
| zaro | but only with matrix job? | 16:00 |
| hashar | zaro: it must have a root cause but I haven't managed to track it down | 16:00 |
| hashar | just that at some point a computer object returns NULL instead of the actual node | 16:00 |
| hashar | and that seems to keep some lock in position | 16:00 |
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| hashar | then the executors refuse to accept new jobs because they are locked | 16:01 |
| hashar | interestingly, the matrix job has a parent process, that still is allocated on an executor :-D | 16:01 |
| hashar | and yeah apparently only on matrix job | 16:01 |
| hashar | I had the issue previously with nodes having multiple executors, but that seems to have been fixed when upgrading the gearman-plugin. That was ages ago | 16:01 |
| hashar | zaro: oh note the matrix job is triggered by the Jenkins scheduler. Not by Zuul | 16:02 |
| zaro | is the jenkins scheduler one of the jenkins plugins? | 16:03 |
| zaro | trigger plugin? | 16:03 |
| hashar | I will have to look at the jobs configuration and write you a summary :-D | 16:04 |
| zaro | so i guess that means jenkins itself can't run builds on the nodes. | 16:04 |
| hashar | there is probably a race condition between the Jenkins scheduler / Gearman build queue / trigger plugin / throttle plugin or owhatever | 16:04 |
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| zaro | regardless of gearman. | 16:04 |
| zaro | so once you get into that state your saying that if you click on the 'run build' icon on the jenkins UI a build doesn't get scheduled? | 16:05 |
| hashar | yeah | 16:05 |
| hashar | but it shows up in Jenkins build queue | 16:05 |
| hashar | with a status of "waiting for next executors on xxx label" | 16:05 |
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| zaro | ahh, ok so that's fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192429/ | 16:06 |
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| hashar | potentially :-} | 16:06 |
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| zaro | or at least i believe so | 16:06 |
| hashar | I have deployed it this morning (europe) so we will see what happens! | 16:07 |
| zaro | because that's the exact same thing i ran into. | 16:07 |
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| hashar | the problem is that I can't reproduce the issue. Have to wait for it to occurs :-/ | 16:07 |
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| zaro | it's when a gearman responds with WORK_FAIL. | 16:07 |
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| hashar | ah I found an hold thread dump at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72597#748059 | 16:08 |
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| hashar | the slave being deadlocked is deployment-bastion.eqiad_exec | 16:08 |
| hashar | all the executors are locked by hudson.plugins.gearman.NodeAvailabilityMonitor.lock | 16:09 |
| hashar | within src/main/java/hudson/plugins/gearman/NodeAvailabilityMonitor.java lock() function. It takes a worker as parameter and has a wait(5000). | 16:09 |
| hashar | but the worker yields a 'null' which causes the code to not release the lock | 16:09 |
| hashar | (sorry that looks confusing) | 16:09 |
| zaro | Yep, NodeAvailabilityMonitor was the culprit. if you look at the commit message there's an explanation. | 16:10 |
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| hashar | I am not sure why it would be given a null worker though :D | 16:11 |
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| zaro | not sure if it's real clear, but the fix is to the NodeAvailabilityMonitor could not get the node because it's locked due to WORK_FAIL event. | 16:11 |
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| hashar | yeah I got that. But that might not be related to the bug I faced :/ | 16:12 |
| hashar | we will see :-} | 16:12 |
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| hashar | at least for today, I haven't noticed any issue | 16:12 |
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| zaro | agreed. | 16:13 |
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| asselin | fbo-, ok i'm back....seems you have your answer. thank you | 16:14 |
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| romcheg | Hi folks! | 16:15 |
| hashar | zaro: heading back home. Thanks a ton for the patch and for moving to Jira (so we get mail notifications : D ) | 16:16 |
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| romcheg | I'm here with the same question I had yesterday. I pushed a tag to stackforge/python-fuelclient but it looks the new version didn't go to PyPi | 16:16 |
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| romcheg | I can see the tarball here http://tarballs.openstack.org/python-fuelclient/ | 16:17 |
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| fungi | romcheg: let's have a look at the log... | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Reshetnyak proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make Sahara python3 job voting https://review.openstack.org/197498 | 16:20 |
| romcheg | fungi: sorry if it's obvious, I couldn't look at the log because unlike logs for patch sets I don't know where to look for one | 16:21 |
| fungi | romcheg: yep, digging it up now. it's based on the hash of the tag | 16:21 |
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| fungi | romcheg: it's possible you pushed a tag yesterday while everything was completely broken | 16:23 |
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| fungi | i didn't get the logserver brought back into order until 14:00 utc | 16:24 |
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| romcheg | fungi: I pushed the tag 20 minutes ago :) | 16:24 |
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| jeblair | http://logs.openstack.org/2f/2f5a9c37d0c528647de7ef20ebb6cb14ac2f8a25/release/python-fuelclient-pypi-both-upload/console.html | 16:24 |
| fungi | romcheg: oh, i thought you said yesterday | 16:24 |
| jeblair | fungi: i would have expected it to be there ^ | 16:24 |
| romcheg | fungi: I indeed pushed a 6.1.1 tag yesterday, but it is broken, so we decided to make another 6.1.2 | 16:24 |
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| romcheg | sorry for the confusion :) | 16:25 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, i went digging in the zuul log since we're missing logfiles from that time period and also because i think the pypi uploads log to swift now | 16:25 |
| jeblair | https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/python-fuelclient-pypi-both-upload/3/console | 16:26 |
| jeblair | that's the failure from the new tag today | 16:26 |
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| romcheg | So it fails if the wheel is Py2 or Py3 only? | 16:29 |
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| fungi | looks that way | 16:29 |
| fungi | i think when dhellmann wrote that he was expecting not to publish non-universal wheels? | 16:29 |
| romcheg | That's strange… | 16:30 |
| fungi | no, that looks like a bug actually. i think it's supposed to be identifying whether it's a universal wheel | 16:30 |
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| fungi | aha, it assumes that if there's a wheel section then there will be a universal option | 16:31 |
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| fungi | fuelclient's setup.cfg has a wheel section with no universal option, and the extract script doesn't safeguard against that possibility | 16:32 |
| fungi | patch on the way | 16:32 |
| romcheg | fungi: thanks! Could you please push this patch trough the tag queue when the patch is merged? | 16:33 |
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| romcheg | *the tag | 16:33 |
| pleia2 | fungi, mrmartin - all ok for me to +A 197614 to get the new openstackid out there? | 16:33 |
| fungi | romcheg: i can retrigger the job, once it merges, yes | 16:33 |
| fungi | pleia2: i believe so, yes | 16:33 |
| mrmartin | hi pleia2 | 16:34 |
| mrmartin | approve that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197614/ | 16:34 |
| mrmartin | :) | 16:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add generic zuul manifests https://review.openstack.org/175970 | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Fabien Boucher proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use openstackci module for zuul_merger zuul_prod and zuul_dev https://review.openstack.org/176010 | 16:34 |
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| pleia2 | mrmartin: great, on the way! | 16:34 |
| mrmartin | pleia2: http://tarballs.openstack.org/openstackid/ 1.0.7 is there, and I did an auth test with groups + a vagrant master branch in my dev env, and everything was looking nice | 16:35 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:35 | |
| pleia2 | perfect, thanks | 16:35 |
| mrmartin | so let's go, I guess we need to wait a while until the puppet script is picking up the changes on openstackid.org | 16:35 |
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| pleia2 | yeah | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix universal extraction in non-universal wheel https://review.openstack.org/197654 | 16:37 |
| fungi | romcheg: jeblair: dhellmann: ^ | 16:37 |
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| nibalizer | jeblair: fungi ah yes, puppet-project_config always trips me up | 16:38 |
| fungi | nibalizer: that's the glue that holds our glue factory together | 16:39 |
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| dhellmann | fungi: does has_option() fail cleanly if the section isn't there? I think I've seen that throw an error on the missing section instead of just returning false | 16:39 |
| fungi | dhellmann: it does. i even tested it to be certain | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | fungi: cool, maybe I'm remembering an old version or something | 16:40 |
| fungi | dhellmann: maybe that was on some !=2.7 version | 16:40 |
| fungi | yeah | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | yeah, could have been ages ago #deepscars | 16:41 |
| fungi | we're running that script exclusively on python 2.7 so should be safe | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | +1 | 16:41 |
| fungi | heh. python 1.x!!! | 16:41 |
| romcheg | fungi: perhaps there should be a note left for times when it's on Py3? | 16:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Set ATTACH_ENCRYPTED_VOLUME_AVAILABLE=False if testing with Ceph https://review.openstack.org/193835 | 16:43 |
| fungi | romcheg: it works the same on 3.4. just tested | 16:43 |
| fbo- | asselin, I've done the refactoring. let me know if this what you expected. Also I haven't tested it yet. | 16:43 |
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| romcheg | I mean, if someone's wheel is py3 only | 16:44 |
| fungi | romcheg: oh, that's likely going to need a rethinking of the script | 16:44 |
| fungi | romcheg: or deeper parsing to detect when it's a py3-only wheel | 16:45 |
| asselin | fbo-, ok will take a look & test it today | 16:45 |
| romcheg | fungi: Perhaps it makes sense to unlock in now | 16:45 |
| romcheg | fungi: and file a bug for py3 only wheels | 16:45 |
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| fbo- | asselin, thanks | 16:46 |
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| greghaynes | fungi: mordred did either of you try out performing the nodepool image upload to rax via command? | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Upgrade openstackid to 1.0.7 https://review.openstack.org/197614 | 16:46 |
| fungi | greghaynes: i have not. just observing the nodepool scheduler do it | 16:46 |
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| greghaynes | hrm, the way the command works it should be equivilentish of restarting nodepool in terms of getting new deps, so might be a good way to test that theory | 16:47 |
| greghaynes | the theory that were just running nodepool with a stale dep | 16:47 |
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| krotscheck | Anyone around who can help me set up ACL's on https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/ironic-webclient | 16:48 |
| krotscheck | ? | 16:48 |
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| flip214 | Hi. Is there some "secret" repository for devstack that works? I'm looking through my logs right now and find quite a lot of things that don't work - and are not even noticed to be wrong... | 16:50 |
| romcheg | fungi: for non-universal wheels it's possible to read wheel/python-tag option. With that no deeper re-thinking would be required :) | 16:50 |
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| flip214 | things like this: | 16:50 |
| flip214 | + return grep '/nova$' /opt/stack/requirements/projects.txt | 16:50 |
| flip214 | /home/stack/devstack/inc/python: line 198: return: grep: numeric argument required | 16:50 |
| fungi | flip214: no idea, but you probably want to talk to the devstack developers. they hang out in #openstack-qa | 16:50 |
| fungi | flip214: that's bug 1469067 and there's a fix being reviewed for it now | 16:51 |
| openstack | bug 1469067 in devstack "Devstack always uses soft requirements updates" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1469067 - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 16:51 |
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| fungi | flip214: it's generally more helpful to pitch in with bugs you find than to imply that the developers of the software intentionally withhold bug fixes from you | 16:53 |
| greghaynes | crinkle: I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196252/ is probably what you were hitting during your nodepool testing | 16:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: argparse in requirements.txt should be 2.6 dependent https://review.openstack.org/197660 | 16:53 |
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| flip214 | fungi: I'd just like to have the same (working!) devstack that is used in the openstack CI systems ;) | 16:54 |
| fungi | flip214: yep. it's not working for us either! ;) | 16:54 |
| crinkle | greghaynes: yep probably | 16:54 |
| flip214 | ah, okay. | 16:54 |
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| flip214 | I didn't want to imply intentionality... I just hoped for some repo that has all that *fixed* already! | 16:54 |
| fungi | flip214: you can grab that fix from https://review.openstack.org/195923 if you want it before the devstack devs have finished reviewing it | 16:55 |
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| krotscheck | Anyone around who can help me set up ACL's on https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/openstack/ironic-webclient ? | 16:57 |
| fungi | krotscheck: yep, i was just pulling that up | 16:57 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Thanks! | 16:57 |
| fungi | krotscheck: yeah, looks like it didn't apply. chances are we've got a typo in the change that added it. do you have a link to that handy? | 16:58 |
| fungi | if not i'll dig it out of the git log | 16:58 |
| krotscheck | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194424/ | 16:58 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: aha! fix on the way | 16:59 |
| krotscheck | fungi: And by typo, you mean "ACL's didn't appear to have been added" | 16:59 |
| mrmartin | pleia2: http://puppetboard.openstack.org/node/openstackid.org is that info valid for the openstackid.org puppet runs? | 16:59 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: yep | 17:00 |
| flip214 | fungi: thank you very much ... | 17:00 |
| fungi | krotscheck: is there an existing acl you want reused by ironic-webclient or is it going to have some unique needs (separate review team, different release model, et cetera)> | 17:00 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: For the time being we'll just use the ironic ACL's, and I'll come back when the team decides what to do. | 17:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Reuse ironic ACLs for ironic-webclient https://review.openstack.org/197662 | 17:03 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: that's ^ what you'll want | 17:03 |
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| pleia2 | mrmartin: yes, looks like it hasn't run yet with the change | 17:04 |
| pleia2 | mrmartin: likely will wait for the next run, things aren't perfectly timed to always get updated immediately after merge | 17:04 |
| mrmartin | pleia2: Wednesday, July 1 2015 1:59 PM shows me this run. what is the time zone for this entry? | 17:05 |
| mrmartin | this run / last run | 17:05 |
| mrmartin | Catalog compiled at: Unknown | 17:05 |
| fungi | mrmartin: unfortunately it's the timezone of the author of the puppetboard software i think :/ they assumed nobody runs software outside their 1/24th of the planet | 17:06 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: its not that strange to think that Canonical would not take care to make Ironic work well. Also, because ironicclient is not in requirements.txt, it's not entirely clear that the virt driver would require later versions (which is actually what is broken) | 17:06 |
| mrmartin | oh ok, and where this guy was living ? | 17:06 |
| pleia2 | shows 4:59AM for me | 17:06 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i believe that last run was 16:59... so probably incorporating changes that merged before 16:30 or maybe 16:45 | 17:06 |
| pleia2 | but I was reading that as PM, so 7 minutes ago | 17:06 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: You discovered some packaging badness in ubuntu? | 17:07 |
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| pleia2 | fungi: that was my read as well | 17:07 |
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| fungi | pleia2: amusing. for me it says the last run was 11:59 am | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | our merge happened at 16:46, so kind of on the cusp of being picked up | 17:07 |
| fungi | and my clock is set to utc | 17:07 |
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| pleia2 | clocks are hard | 17:07 |
| mrmartin | pleia2: ok, /me is excited | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: just oldness | 17:08 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: we just need to get a not-18months-old version of ironicclient into Ubuntu | 17:08 |
| greghaynes | ah :/ | 17:08 |
| SpamapS | also when I tried pip installing.. zomg that pissed off puppet | 17:08 |
| greghaynes | hahaha | 17:08 |
| fungi | mrmartin: anyway, judging from the current cadence of puppet updates there, i'd assume you shouldn't expect anything exciting for about another 40 minutes | 17:09 |
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| mrmartin | puppet apply by hand to speed up things ? | 17:09 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: so, there are some hacks infra does to disable package installs while they build images... maybe the similar hack can be done for just a single pacakge | 17:09 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i can if it's urgent | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | mrmartin: it's not an emergency, I'd rather not | 17:09 |
| mrmartin | pleia2: it's not urgent | 17:10 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: no the issue is that my pip installed current ironicclient installed a version of pbr that breaks the package installed neutronclient. | 17:10 |
| fungi | we'd like to streamline our puppet updates to be a lot faster. i think they'll be nice and speedy once we switch to masterless | 17:10 |
| fungi | right now they're mostly serialized | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | wooow | 17:10 |
| SpamapS | 2015-07-01 13:17:49 +0000 Puppet (err): Could not prefetch keystone_service provider 'openstack': Execution of '/usr/bin/openstack service list --quiet --format csv --long' returned 1: ERROR: openstackclient.shell Exception raised: (pbr 1.2.0 (/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages), Requirement.parse('pbr!=0.7,<1.0,>=0.6'), set(['python-neutronclient', 'cliff', 'python-glanceclient', 'python-cinderclient', 'python-novaclient'])) | 17:10 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: so basically I suspect there's a rather large dependency chain of fail in UCA that needs to be fixed. | 17:11 |
| fungi | okay, time to work on surgically extracting stable/icehouse from all our jobs | 17:11 |
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| sdake_ | mordred happen to be around fine sir re temporary relicense of shade to asl | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: stackforge/{anchor,bandit} -> openstack/{anchor,bandit} https://review.openstack.org/197673 | 17:27 |
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| SpamapS | so.. this is a really sticky problem I'm running into... | 17:28 |
| SpamapS | packaged versions of client libraries are basically all "really old" in ubuntu cloud archive | 17:28 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: Why do you need the client libs? they are working fine as deps for the services as is right? | 17:29 |
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| greghaynes | asking because why not venv | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: well it's a dependency graph problem | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: so the puppet modules are built around packages | 17:30 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: so venv would be a massive departure. | 17:30 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: I think it depends on where they are being used, which is what im trying to figure out | 17:31 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Thanks! | 17:31 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: are the services themselves failing because old client libs? | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: and for instance, ironicclient needs pbr >=0.11 ... Ubuntu cloud archive has 0.10 | 17:31 |
| SpamapS | looks like I could maybe compromise with ironicclient 0.5.1 | 17:32 |
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| SpamapS | hrm... 0.7.0 only _says_ it wants >=0.11 | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | seems to work fine with 0.10 | 17:33 |
| greghaynes | oh, this is puppet trying to set up the openstack using the client libs | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yes | 17:33 |
| greghaynes | hrm | 17:33 |
| greghaynes | yea, that is a bad spot :p | 17:33 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: just in general, it's the model of having everything in system python | 17:33 |
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| SpamapS | which I am pretty sure is a model that is _heavily_ flawed. | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | and is a great way to get stuck on an old release of OpenStack | 17:34 |
| greghaynes | Yea, I was trying to figure out if theres a way you could maybe make this one use case use a venv, but that would probably be a lot of puppet change | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | well it might be worthwhile puppet change | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | I've always believed very strongly that "how you get your software" and "how you configure your software" should be thought of separately. | 17:35 |
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| greghaynes | also crinkle ^ I think this is your exact area of expertise - client libs + puppet | 17:36 |
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| crinkle | ha | 17:37 |
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| greghaynes | :) | 17:37 |
| SpamapS | I'm actually about 5 minutes from uploading python-ironicclient 0.7.0 to Ubuntu "wily" | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | which would I think make it fairly simple for UCA to sync that. | 17:38 |
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| crinkle | so the puppet modules should be working with what's in uca | 17:38 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yea, for ironic that shouldnt be a big issue - theres not going to be any other services that use python-ironicclient | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | crinkle: nova ironic driver does not | 17:39 |
| SpamapS | crinkle: which is likely a corner case not covered in any integration test | 17:39 |
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| SpamapS | one I'd like to cover once I get this sorted | 17:39 |
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| SpamapS | since we'll be relying on that. | 17:39 |
| SpamapS | W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/universe/binary-amd64/Packages Hash Sum mismatch | 17:41 |
| SpamapS | oh joy | 17:41 |
| SpamapS | apt.. seriously.. get your act together | 17:41 |
| greghaynes | \O/ | 17:41 |
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| Clint | silly ubuntu | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix universal extraction in non-universal wheel https://review.openstack.org/197654 | 17:44 |
| SpamapS | Clint: I know right? pdiffs are like 10 years old now | 17:44 |
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| SpamapS | Clint: note that it's really "silly launchpad" for that one. :-/ | 17:44 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: *headdesk* | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Make Sahara python3 job voting https://review.openstack.org/197498 | 17:52 |
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| SpamapS | and now the fun begins | 17:53 |
| SpamapS | wily has old'n'busted oslo.i18n still... so old it doesn't have de-namespaced modules | 17:54 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: wow | 17:54 |
| SpamapS | wait no.. | 17:55 |
| SpamapS | this was trusty | 17:55 |
| SpamapS | n/m | 17:55 |
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| SpamapS | wily's good on that one | 17:55 |
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| * SpamapS doing too many things in parallel | 17:55 | |
| SpamapS | need to enable UCA in my trusty test chroot | 17:55 |
| clarkb | you kbow if this constraints stuff works wellall we need next is to sign our python packages then you can/should just pip + venv everythibg | 17:56 |
| clarkb | (granted we cant sign our deps) | 17:56 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: I'm lacking context. Constraints stuff? | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Centralize Release Tagging https://review.openstack.org/191193 | 17:57 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS the work lifeless is doing to make pip installs deterministic | 17:58 |
| greghaynes | requirements constraints | 17:58 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: I updated ^^ after discussing it with ttx this week when we realized your "keep all the history" approach would help us solve another problem we have | 17:58 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: thers still the system dep problem too | 17:58 |
| greghaynes | but were solving that in theory | 17:58 |
| clarkb | greghaynes ya so need bindep too | 17:58 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: what would happen if we didn't have that and just used signed git tags with pip+venv? | 17:59 |
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| fungi | wow. i started writing the icehouse testing removal change less than an hour ago, based on project-config branch tip, and it's already in merge conflict before i've even pushed it into gerrit | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | fungi: hm, I think something might actually be wrong with puppet | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | about 6 hours since anything has changed | 17:59 |
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| dhellmann | AJaeger_, is the change to add openstack/releases ok now? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196704/ | 18:00 |
| nibalizer | pleia2: what are you seeing? | 18:01 |
| pleia2 | nibalizer: just looking at puppetboard.openstack.org | 18:01 |
| fungi | pleia2: on the puppetmaster i see a bash /opt/system-config/production/run_all.sh process running since 12:15 utc | 18:01 |
| fungi | pleia2: so i agree | 18:01 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: you would have no control over your deps | 18:01 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: so when you deploy a new compute node for example it could be runnign very different software than the existing compute nodes | 18:01 |
| fungi | pleia2: and no updates to /var/log/puppet_run_all.log since 12:09 utc | 18:02 |
| pleia2 | fungi: nods | 18:02 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: I would, if I did pip install on each compute node. But instead I'd probably just copy the venv that passed testing. No? | 18:02 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: virtualenvs are not portable, while that may work in a very specific use case generally it wont | 18:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/196504 | 18:03 |
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| fungi | pleia2: if you look at ps afuxww you'll see there's git fetch-pack hung for the past 6 hours | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: it works very reliably if you have the same path, and put it on hosts that are the same arch+os+libs .. which is not a hard thing to achieve. But I agree, we're two "what ifs" in and I'm already feeling icky. ;) | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | fungi: oof | 18:04 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: though this is really why things like snappy and docker are gaining popularity. | 18:04 |
| fungi | pleia2: strace shows it's idling in the middle of a read | 18:04 |
| fungi | pleia2: presumably on the network socket for that | 18:04 |
| SpamapS | because those _are_ portable and they don't have all the insanity of system level packaging. | 18:04 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: sure, but they have the problem where something like 60% of images on dockers image hub are found to have major security vulnerabilities | 18:04 |
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| clarkb | it would be really neat if we could have aworking packaging system for python | 18:05 |
| mordred | clarkb: sure. but if you build your own, it's easy, and you can track the security yourself | 18:05 |
| fungi | pleia2: i'm willing to chalk this up to git^Wnetworks^Wcloud sucks, kill that pid and move on with our lives | 18:05 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: also they are not necessarily portable because systemd and friends | 18:05 |
| mordred | fungi: ++ | 18:05 |
| SpamapS | clarkb: I don't understand how systemd affects the portability? | 18:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: pleia2 ianw did appear to debug the git issue on centos | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | fungi: wfm | 18:06 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, i saw | 18:06 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: systemd is picky about its kernel | 18:06 |
| SpamapS | it is? | 18:06 |
| fungi | clarkb: though what's fun is this is ubuntu trusty on the client end | 18:06 |
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| mordred | clarkb: but you don't need to run systemd inside of a docker container | 18:06 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: yes they explicitly have min kernel versions that are arbitrary based on whatever new feature they decide they need | 18:06 |
| mordred | if you are doing that, you are doing it wrong | 18:06 |
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| mordred | also - distro pacakges are ALSO not portable across different hosts | 18:07 |
| clarkb | mordred: I take some issue with that, not running init in docker has resulted in many broken docker containers | 18:07 |
| clarkb | mordred: because you have nothing reaping zombies | 18:07 |
| clarkb | if you do it correctly its fine but it turns out that is hard to do when running $randomservice | 18:07 |
| SpamapS | I think your kernel argument is true, but I'm not sure it is actually relevant to what we're discussing. | 18:08 |
| SpamapS | and for the record, I also believe you need something reaping zombies in a container. | 18:08 |
| mordred | you need suse packages for suse, and debian packages for debian | 18:09 |
| mordred | also | 18:09 |
| mordred | https://github.com/ewindisch/container-shpid1 | 18:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: it doesn't have to be systemd but it does need to be something | 18:09 |
| mordred | that ^^ | 18:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: and most docker images have nothing | 18:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: including the official ones | 18:09 |
| mordred | yah | 18:09 |
| mordred | because most of them are single-process application containers | 18:09 |
| mordred | not containers-that-behave-like-vms | 18:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: until that single process forks | 18:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: which they do because unix | 18:09 |
| mordred | clarkb: right. you have to use them for purposes | 18:10 |
| mordred | they AREN'T a magic bullet | 18:10 |
| mordred | but they ARE easier to deal with than distro packaging for most humans | 18:10 |
| SpamapS | mordred: thats not handling zombies. | 18:10 |
| mordred | so whether they are perfect or not - they are going to be used more and more | 18:10 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes use them, I think I am more arguing that the docker conventions are terrible and need to be rethought | 18:11 |
| clarkb | because hand waving around single process isn't practical | 18:11 |
| SpamapS | but I think it _could_ handle them with a SIGCHLD handler. Also one could just run sysvinit as the pid1 for the container .. ;) | 18:11 |
| jeblair | are we actually discussing using containers in infra? if so, great, otherwise, maybe this is a good conversation for #openstack-rainbow-unicorn-pals | 18:11 |
| mordred | SpamapS: haha. nice | 18:12 |
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| SpamapS | anyway, my point is not to disect docker. It is to suggest that I'm really not looking forward to jumping down the package rabbit hole just to fix nova+ironic in UCA. | 18:12 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we probably do need to have the discussion about how to better test with containers and docker but thats orthogonal to this discussion | 18:12 |
| mordred | SpamapS: yah | 18:12 |
| persia | clarkb: Theoretically https://github.com/opencontainers/specs contains the results of such rethinking of conventions. | 18:12 |
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| EmilienM | greetings Infra! asking for review on 3 patches for Puppet CI > https://goo.gl/3Cn1HA | 18:12 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: there is a legitimate problem right now, and we are actually discussing solutions. I know right? ;) | 18:12 |
| clarkb | jeblair: because a lot of jobs are using docker and they essenentially break all the caching we do for jobs | 18:12 |
| clarkb | they also break dns and use different package mirrors and don't use our pypi mirrors etc | 18:13 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ this is another issue with "its just single process isolation" if it was this wouldn't be a problem | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove managed stable/icehouse branch testing https://review.openstack.org/197687 | 18:13 |
| fungi | that ^ has already merge-conflicted with master once just in the hour it took me to write it, so i feel like we should fast-track reviewing it otherwise it will likely take forever to land | 18:14 |
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| mordred | fungi: reviewing | 18:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: okay, do we want to talk about that now? because seriously this just seems like people saying random things about containers in general. | 18:14 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't need to have that discussion now. Its probably best to have the groups using containers come to us with their needs and go from there (kolla, solum, ansible openstack deployment, etc) | 18:14 |
| jeblair | if there are legitimate problems that we want to solve, i'm happy to engage in a conversation, but i'd love it if we could avoid conflating that with general opining on systemd and containers | 18:15 |
| jeblair | clarkb: agreed | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: but they do have jobs fail at a fairly reasonable rate due to things that would be mostly non issues if not run in containers | 18:15 |
| mordred | fungi: +2 | 18:15 |
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| fungi | i need to write a filter which replaces "container" with "tractor" in irc conversations and see if it makes about as much sense | 18:15 |
| sdake | clarkb my kolla beeper went off | 18:15 |
| sdake | anythingI can help answer? | 18:15 |
| clarkb | sdake: just mentioning that the container based testing circumvents much of our node setup to make tests as reliable as possible | 18:16 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, folks who want to use containers have some engineering work to do to have them well supported in our system i think. | 18:16 |
| clarkb | sdake: and that at some point we will want to address that | 18:16 |
| Clint | EmilienM: i think you may have erred with your url-shortening | 18:16 |
| EmilienM | oh dear | 18:16 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: the problem we have now is that UCA is badly broken for nova + ironic. Luckily, I'm an Ubuntu developer and I can at least try to help it get fixed in UCA (though UCA is Canonical, so....). But we need to think more about how much packaging infrastructure we want to deal with, and thus came the topic "could we just use pip+venv or docker or something" | 18:16 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: and to keep us from being a dos vector | 18:16 |
| EmilienM | Clint: the URL works for me, it's originally https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+owner:%22Emilien+Macchi+%253Cemilien%2540redhat.com%253E%22+project:openstack-infra/project-config,n,z | 18:17 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: aiui part of this overall effort includes a packaging component | 18:17 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: but also, aren't we expecting to get kilo packages soon? | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: yes, it's been somewhat hand-wavy and decoupled up until now. | 18:17 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: we have kilo packages | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | except python-ironicclient | 18:18 |
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| SpamapS | which is Icehouse versioned | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | and too old for kilo's Ironic driver | 18:18 |
| jeblair | that seems weird | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | nobody seems to have tried to run Kilo Nova+Ironic from UCA yet. | 18:18 |
| SpamapS | except me :-P | 18:18 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: you are a trailblazer | 18:19 |
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| SpamapS | clarkb: I prefer s/trailblazer/firework/ | 18:19 |
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| clarkb | SpamapS: careful fireworks are going to be banned in this part of the country | 18:20 |
| AJaeger_ | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196704/ needs a +1 from ttx | 18:20 |
| AJaeger_ | also, I noticed one "sorting nit". Let me fix that for you and then +2. | 18:21 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger_: ok, thanks | 18:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: how did you find that precise stuff for ironic testing, good catch on removing that | 18:21 |
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| AJaeger_ | dhellmann: I'll +2 once ttx has given his explicit approval | 18:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: because he's a magical bunny | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Centralize Release Tagging https://review.openstack.org/191193 | 18:22 |
| fungi | clarkb: git grep | 18:23 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: my understanding is that we have chosen to use puppet modules and packages, which carries the risk that we are dependent on distro packages, but we can potentially mitigate that risk by implementing our own packaging system. we may find problems along the way, but will try to get those corrected. | 18:23 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: does that match your understanding? do you think we should consider changing any aspects of that? | 18:23 |
| fungi | clarkb: tried to clean up as much as i can without intentionally breaking/removing jobs for non release:managed repos for now | 18:23 |
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| fungi | clarkb: when we tear out precise workers, we'll probably be able to remove a lot more | 18:23 |
| clarkb | fungi: I also notice we have no python kilo bitrot jobs | 18:24 |
| fungi | clarkb: ttx proposed a change to add them | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack/releases repository https://review.openstack.org/196704 | 18:24 |
| clarkb | fungi: perfect | 18:24 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i'm planning to review/stack it on this, but first i'm going through and abandoning icehouse changes which are still open | 18:24 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: also, should we start thinking of the packaging effort as a harder dependency? | 18:25 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: That matches my understanding. I think it makes me want to fill in details about what we'll do with packages, but does not bring me to any new conclusions. | 18:25 |
| AJaeger_ | fungi, clarkb : ttx' change is https://review.openstack.org/196709 - please review. I'm not convinced that the python 2.6 changes are right | 18:25 |
| fungi | AJaeger_: yep i plan to give it a good going-over shortly | 18:25 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: ++ | 18:25 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: I think it's going to become a harder dependency, for the simple reason that we cannot "work upstream" on UCA AFAIK. | 18:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: yup no rush, just pointing out my observations, should be approving your change shortly as long as it all looks good | 18:25 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: we just have to ask nicely for packages to be updated in UCA | 18:26 |
| SpamapS | and they may not even decide to support nova+ironic in UCA, and thus would leave us out in the cold. | 18:26 |
| clarkb | speaking of, the state of the python3 trusty package bug was updated again to reset it back to not fix released | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: warn on projects not in governance https://review.openstack.org/196785 | 18:26 |
| clarkb | so maybe someone is workign on that again? | 18:26 |
| fungi | clarkb: that's my hope | 18:26 |
| fungi | clarkb: it's getting more and more embarrassing | 18:27 |
| jeblair | SpamapS, crinkle: do the puppet modules have a hard dependency on UCA packages? if we start substituting our own, is that likely to succeed or cause undue problems? | 18:27 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I have comments on the zuul layout that will be posted as soon as I can write them | 18:27 |
| crinkle | jeblair: they have an implicit dependency on UCA packages | 18:27 |
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| crinkle | jeblair: they make assumptions about the packaging such as the package name, default locations of configuration files | 18:27 |
| jeblair | SpamapS, crinkle: (also, it seems weird that there is a puppet module for ironic while it is so out of step with the rest) | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: no, the puppet modules just ask for packages by name. | 18:28 |
| crinkle | the ironic module seems to get a little less love than the others | 18:28 |
| jeblair | so probably minimal problems as long as we start with the uca sources | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | Agreed, the ironic module doesn't get tagged for instance. | 18:28 |
| crinkle | it hasn't been released yet, i expect it will for kilo ( EmilienM ?) | 18:29 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: right, I think we simply make our package repo a downstream of UCA | 18:29 |
| jeblair | is ubuntu the only operating system supported by the puppet modules? | 18:29 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: yes, it's mature enough now | 18:29 |
| SpamapS | keep it in sync for the most part, and diverge when we need to. | 18:29 |
| crinkle | no there is fedora, centos, and debian support | 18:29 |
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| crinkle | and potential for solaris support | 18:29 |
| jeblair | some of those are more likely for us than others ;) | 18:29 |
| clarkb | fungi: posted | 18:30 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks | 18:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: with those addressed I think it is ready to be merged | 18:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/glean: Make glean python 2.6 compatible for Centos6 https://review.openstack.org/197690 | 18:30 |
| jeblair | SpamapS, crinkle: are the debian packgase in better shape? | 18:30 |
| crinkle | jeblair: i have no knowledge of that | 18:31 |
| EmilienM | jeblair: they should be | 18:31 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: ehhh.. yes and no | 18:31 |
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| EmilienM | jeblair: before our acquisition, we were deploying them every day and they are working very well (cc zigo ) | 18:31 |
| EmilienM | jeblair: upstream puppet modules support them without any issue | 18:32 |
| clarkb | TheJulia: re 197690 both those methods raise an exception if the command fails which means the subsequent poll will never run right? | 18:32 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: mordred ^ | 18:33 |
| jeblair | a potential idea is to run infra-cloud on a different os; we've certainly considered running more infra servers on debian, and we already run some centos servers. i think that's a significant enough departure from our established plan not to be undertaken lightly. but it can be an idea we keep in mind. | 18:33 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: their shape is probaby about the same. The OS itself is quite a different beast from Ubuntu though. :) | 18:33 |
| SpamapS | We actually have.. a ridiculous number of DD's available. | 18:33 |
| clarkb | TheJulia: er rather it won't poll if it fails in that case | 18:34 |
| fungi | well, debian and ubuntu aren't terribly divergent... however the debian and ubuntu openstack packages are fairly divergent still | 18:34 |
| TheJulia | clarkb: from what I read, yes | 18:34 |
| crinkle | iirc we talked ourselves into Ubuntu for some reason | 18:34 |
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| Clint | SpamapS: and none of them looking at zuul-packaging | 18:34 |
| EmilienM | jeblair: centos7 is running fine and we make CI on this (and trusty) | 18:34 |
| clarkb | TheJulia: I think I have convinced myself its fine if maybe lacking more verbose logging for that fail case | 18:34 |
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| fungi | SpamapS: but yes, there are a lot of dds here and also non-dds who run pretty much pure-debian outside of openstack infra ;) | 18:34 |
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| fungi | so it's not a huge stretch | 18:35 |
| fungi | (accidental pun there) | 18:35 |
| TheJulia | clarkb: :) Yeah.... I looked at it and felt the urge to add more, but I figured simple would be best. At least it now executes on centos6. Now to just get interfaces to come online with simple-init! | 18:35 |
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| SpamapS | fungi: well played | 18:35 |
| SpamapS | My feeling is meh on Debian vs. Ubuntu. | 18:35 |
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| SpamapS | I like the Ubuntu security team's track record a lot. I like the LTS release cadence a lot more than the Debian release cadence. | 18:36 |
| clarkb | TheJulia: yup +2 from me | 18:36 |
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| SpamapS | Regarding the packages.. its likely even with Debian packages that we'd have operationally-important issues that would have to be solved quickly with a patch that might not be suitable for Debian. | 18:37 |
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| SpamapS | So going to that OS does not really free us from a need to have our own repo. | 18:37 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: agreed | 18:37 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: i'll just go ahead and say i'm a little worried that we're running into a sabdfl-created ironic/maas conflict here, which prompted my thinking along this line. | 18:38 |
| SpamapS | So, I think we should focus on the meta-problem of creating and maintaining a downstream package overlay repo. | 18:38 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: yep. clearly we have demonstrated need. | 18:39 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger_: good catch on python26, we dropped 26 for servers in kilo so we can probably just remove that | 18:39 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: yeah, that conflict is not lost on me at all. I think it is absolutely why ironicclient has gone completely un-touched for 18 months in Ubuntu. | 18:39 |
| clarkb | AJaeger_: I think you can flip your review to a -1 if you like | 18:39 |
| AJaeger_ | ;) | 18:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove managed stable/icehouse branch testing https://review.openstack.org/197687 | 18:40 |
| AJaeger_ | Ah, now I see what confused me - there are python 3.4 projects in the python 2.6 deprecation list. Will resort... | 18:40 |
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| fungi | AJaeger_: yeah, we need to clean that up but i left it for later | 18:41 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi, I'll put my patch on top of yours and rebase if needed... | 18:41 |
| clarkb | AJaeger_: or maybe even push a new patchset? ttx is likely afk at this point | 18:41 |
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| SpamapS | Clint: have you taken a look at all at this problem of making a downstream apt repo? | 18:42 |
| SpamapS | StevenK: ^ ? | 18:42 |
| Clint | SpamapS: only as a handwavy idea | 18:43 |
| mrmartin | pleia2: are you here? | 18:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move python 3.4 jobs out of python 2.6 list https://review.openstack.org/197695 | 18:44 |
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| AJaeger_ | clarkb: not at the moment... | 18:45 |
| mordred | uhoh. the clints are involved | 18:45 |
| SpamapS | Clint: seems like the best way to do it would be to use something really simple that would build packages using sbuild on merge to git, and then manage the whole thing in gerrit. | 18:45 |
| Clint | SpamapS: packages based on what though? | 18:46 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: something not quite ok with this openstackid upgrade. can you help me and paste the output of this two commands: cat /opt/deploy/conf.d/openstackid.conf and /opt/deploy/deploy.sh status openstackid ? | 18:46 |
| fungi | mrmartin: yep, trying now | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | Clint: whatever we need to have in our apt repo. | 18:47 |
| Clint | SpamapS: but like, are you maintaining divergent packaging repos for everything or are you specifying some sort of base + diff? | 18:47 |
| SpamapS | Clint: I think you start with an import of the package into git as your base. | 18:48 |
| jeblair | Clint, SpamapS: as you come to conclusions, can you help refine https://review.openstack.org/179713 ? | 18:48 |
| SpamapS | Clint: if the package is already in git, great. :) | 18:48 |
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| mordred | yah. that's one of my main questions - git repos are pretty heavy-weight in gerrit land | 18:48 |
| fungi | mrmartin: http://paste.openstack.org/show/332895/ | 18:48 |
| SpamapS | Oh I hadn't looked at that one. | 18:48 |
| mrmartin | fungi: thnx | 18:48 |
| mordred | and it seems like we could quickly wind up with 200 infra-packaging repos | 18:48 |
| SpamapS | mordred: I don't expect we'd want to have more than a handful of these. | 18:49 |
| Clint | what's the scope then? | 18:49 |
| SpamapS | mordred: if we end up at 200 ... we're our own distro at that point. Time to make t-shirts. | 18:49 |
| SpamapS | The idea is to fix it in our apt repo only as a buffer to the fix actually landing in our upstream. | 18:50 |
| Clint | and are we never going to want to spin custom packages for software that is not openstack-upstream | 18:50 |
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| SpamapS | But I agree, adding and removing git repos every time we diverge could end up with 200 total, even if only 10 of them are active. | 18:50 |
| SpamapS | Clint: yes, because NEW is slow. ;) | 18:50 |
| clarkb | anteaya: happy canada day (is that the appropriate thing to say for this holiday?) I hope you do the Canadian equivalent of exploding things and cooking food with fire | 18:51 |
| fungi | mrmartin: we discovered that our puppet apply task was hung and not updating any servers for ~6 hours, so that first run which updated openstackid.org about 25 minutes ago may not have used the latest configuration yet | 18:51 |
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| Clint | jeblair: i think there will be more questions than conclusions | 18:51 |
| clarkb | Clint: possible libvirt, ovs, kernel, rabbitmq, etc. the system deps of openstack | 18:51 |
| jeblair | Clint: questons are good to have there too :) | 18:51 |
| mrmartin | fungi: I realized that one part, I just like to figure out why the status of deploy.sh is pending | 18:51 |
| Clint | so do we want full-weight git repos for each of those/ | 18:51 |
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| Clint | (i suspect we don't) | 18:52 |
| mordred | I think we don't | 18:52 |
| mordred | I think we ultimately want to support both things - both having a packaging repo and not having a packaging repo | 18:52 |
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| fungi | i wonder if you want a git repo of patches which can be layered on the deb src v3 quilt stacks | 18:52 |
| SpamapS | are branches heavyweight? | 18:52 |
| mordred | because there are some things where a referecen in a file that says "please clone $packaging_repo, run dch $some_version_args, run debuild and put the results in a local repo" is fine for simple things for us | 18:53 |
| mordred | and I think we are NOT a distro | 18:53 |
| fungi | or possibly just overlay patches to the debian subtrees of unpacked source packages | 18:53 |
| mordred | so having a long-lived repo for things like "we temporarily need a new copy of a thing in our local repo" really doesn't need us to own the git for it | 18:53 |
| mordred | fungi: yah | 18:53 |
| mordred | or *something hand wavy* | 18:53 |
| SpamapS | Hrm | 18:54 |
| Clint | fungi: i'd want something that could patch the debian/ packaging too | 18:54 |
| fungi | a repo fully of ugly hack triples of "script+patch+metadata" per source package | 18:54 |
| mordred | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-April/002723.html | 18:54 |
| fungi | s/fully/full/ | 18:54 |
| mordred | is what I rambled on the subject back in april | 18:55 |
| SpamapS | Thats just the thing... git repos are, by definition, a series of patches on top of a base. | 18:55 |
| mordred | yes. but a git repo in gerrit is a heavy prospect | 18:55 |
| SpamapS | The fact that gerrit makes them hard to use is rather frustrating at this point. | 18:55 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: well... let's pretend it was easy to delete git repos from gerrit. should we? i am not so sure. | 18:56 |
| jeblair | i don't like deleting work history | 18:56 |
| fungi | SpamapS: well, i don't think it's so much gerrit. we're talking about forks of a bunch of ...probably... git repos but really debian source packages. we don't necessarily need the entire archive history if we're just maintaining an overlay | 18:56 |
| SpamapS | I don't want to delete them. I think its fine to mark them as inactive and let them sit until the next time we want to diverge that package. | 18:56 |
| SpamapS | fungi: definitely agree there. | 18:56 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: that's an option | 18:56 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: can you check me whether the /srv/openstackid/w/public/index.php file exists, w is symlink to slot0 or slot1 and /srv/openstackid/slot0 directory exists | 18:57 |
| mordred | well, honestly | 18:57 |
| mordred | SpamapS has a good point | 18:57 |
| mordred | which is that there is really nothing that _prevents_ us from making some more repos | 18:57 |
| mordred | we have like 1000 puppet repos | 18:57 |
| jeblair | right, i've not generally objected to creating repos, just deleting them. i assumed that was what was at issue here. | 18:57 |
| SpamapS | Can we hide them? | 18:58 |
| mordred | yah - if we just keep them around after we've used them once, that work _did_ happen and we _did_ publish the artifact from it | 18:58 |
| fungi | mrmartin: the public/index.php exists (and is nonempty). the w symlink points at slot0 | 18:58 |
| mordred | SpamapS: shouldn't really need to - it's not a problem taht they exist I think | 18:58 |
| SpamapS | as in, they are there, and available, but gerrit doesn't show them because we've re-synced? | 18:58 |
| mordred | SpamapS: the more I think about it | 18:58 |
| Clint | and then huge rebase if you want to use it again? | 18:58 |
| fungi | mrmartin: and the slot0 directory does exits too, yes | 18:58 |
| jeblair | Clint: well, 'merge commit' perhaps/ | 18:58 |
| SpamapS | Clint: might not even really need to rebase. Just import dsc again. | 18:58 |
| mordred | Clint: I think we could have upstream branches and infra branches like we do with gerrit | 18:58 |
| mordred | or do that | 18:58 |
| mrmartin | fungi: strange, I not get why it tells for the status that it is pending: https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackid/blob/master/files/functions#L88 based on this | 18:58 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: instead of inactiving them - we can always land a commit that deletes all the content and replaces it with a "unused right now" readme | 18:59 |
| jeblair | the main thing i think it's important to avoid is the appearance that we are either maintaining or willing to accept patches to a defunct pagaging repo. we can fix that as SpamapS suggests | 18:59 |
| mordred | SpamapS: and then import-dsc if we need a point-in-time package again in the future | 18:59 |
| jeblair | and mordred suggests. | 18:59 |
| mordred | I could be on board with that | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | mordred: yeah, totally | 19:00 |
| fungi | also it now feels somewhat like we're reinventing git-buildpackage | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | fungi: wouldn't we be using git-buildpackage ? | 19:00 |
| SpamapS | I sort of assumed ... ;) | 19:00 |
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| mordred | yah. I think we'd use git-buildpackage for sure | 19:01 |
| fungi | SpamapS: well, okay, reinventing one of the existing common gbp workflows, yeah | 19:01 |
| mordred | if we go with having a repo for each pacakge in gerrit | 19:01 |
| fungi | or perhaps converging on it | 19:01 |
| mordred | I think converging on it | 19:01 |
| SpamapS | fungi: to be clear, I'm trying hard to align us with that workflow. :) | 19:01 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:02 |
| pc_m | anteaya: hi | 19:02 |
| SpamapS | so assuming we did that, the idea would be that on approval of a patch, a nodepool worker goes out and runs a package build, and uploads it to our repo? | 19:03 |
| persia | I've maintained overlay repos in the past, and one of the biggest issues we had was response-time to changes in the repos we overlaid. While the git-based workflow described above looks good: if you don't control the mirror for your base (and fail to sync stuff that is modified), you end up with annoying race conditions. | 19:03 |
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| mordred | persia: good point - I think how we mirror the base is important | 19:03 |
| SpamapS | persia: ah so overlay works today, but tomorrow base updates and all hell breaks loose? | 19:03 |
| persia | SpamapS: Right. There are a few solutions that do analysis in various ways: usually using append notation in version numbers to blacklist things, but I don't know of any that are independent of an archive management suite. | 19:04 |
| Clint | sounds like when gentoo first started | 19:04 |
| persia | And it would be annoying to try to host DAK or Soyuz in -infra. | 19:04 |
| SpamapS | Clint: except without the nitro? | 19:04 |
| * Clint coughs. | 19:04 | |
| Clint | i don't think we need anything more complex than reprepro to manage the .debs | 19:05 |
| fungi | a big up-side to doing this as a fork of existing distro-managed git repos is at least we have easy ways to see what changed, hopefully why, and manage the necessary merge conflicts/rebases | 19:05 |
| SpamapS | persia: I've never looked at how independent of launchpad Soyuz is... or.. is it at all? | 19:05 |
| * Rockyg thinks branches are the right solution | 19:06 | |
| mordred | Clint: ++ | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | I had always basically been look at very funny when suggesting trying to do any part of Ubuntu's infrastructure without doing all of Ubuntu's infrastructure. | 19:06 |
| mordred | I cannot imagine that we need not-reprepro | 19:06 |
| fungi | Clint: yeah, or just a script that calls apt-ftparchive and then creates detached signatures | 19:06 |
| fungi | Clint: basically a solved problem | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | wait you're missing persia's point | 19:06 |
| persia | SpamapS: It was once independent. I think it isn't now. StevenK or lifeless will have a more recent opinion than I. | 19:06 |
| Rockyg | clone the upstream repo. Keep it updated. Branch any time you want to make changes. Re-merge or maintain branch if you need to when your done | 19:06 |
| SpamapS | Yes reprepro will create a bunch of packages which will be available to our servers with apt. | 19:07 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: I think there are two reprepro options to deal with persia's point | 19:07 |
| mordred | we can use reprepro to maintain an overlay repo that only has our packages that we have built referencing UCA | 19:07 |
| persia | mordred: There are some, but reprepro has some issues, some of which are solved. | 19:07 |
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| SpamapS | But it also will be somewhat unpredictable when interwoven with whatever the upstream distro does on any given day. | 19:07 |
| mordred | this has the problem that UCA can then move on and purge old packages making packages in our overlay repo uninstallable | 19:07 |
| persia | More importantly, apt can recognise when a repo should be used, and not to override that from an update from another repo: some of the work done to support backports. | 19:07 |
| mordred | we can also additionally use reprepro to maintain a local mirror of UCA that we update when we choose | 19:08 |
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| mordred | and that we consume UCA through - and that we build the overlay repo using | 19:08 |
| mordred | this has the problem if needing to manage syncs with upstream | 19:08 |
| SpamapS | Rockyg: thats assuming there is an upstream repo to clone. ;) Sometimes it's just downloading the .dsc+bits and importing them. | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: prototype script to generate tag history for a project https://review.openstack.org/197711 | 19:08 |
| mordred | but does not leave us with an unusable repo state | 19:08 |
| persia | Having a local mirror is the first step towards a working solution. | 19:09 |
| Rockyg | SpamapS: Ah. Thanks. So, only works for things with repos. Would 2 solutions be bad? | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | Rockyg: not at all. | 19:09 |
| Rockyg | persia ++ | 19:09 |
| SpamapS | Rockyg: basically the ones with git repos for their packaging will just be easier to keep merged. | 19:09 |
| persia | Rockyg: For debian-style packaging, there are at least 4 different ways to organise a git repo, which complicates that part of the discussion. | 19:10 |
| Rockyg | SpamapS: branching *is* the way to go for those | 19:10 |
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| SpamapS | And yeah, what persia said. Local reprepro that has "all the things" and then we inject our own overrides into it. We would need to put some kind of merge guard on the sync process which prevents overwriting our own packages. | 19:10 |
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| fungi | oh, there's an option... we test updates to both our mirror and overlay and don't update them when the proposed new state fails. of course that means having jobs that would run against a staging mirror, and trigger an afs vos release or whatever when the jobs succeed | 19:10 |
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| Rockyg | persia: grrr. darn open source! same NIH problem as everywhere else | 19:10 |
| SpamapS | fungi: I so want that. I SO WANT THAT. | 19:11 |
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| jeblair | fungi, SpamapS: yeah, i think we'll have it :) | 19:11 |
| persia | fungi: That would be lovely, indeed. | 19:11 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:11 |
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| SpamapS | A package mirror that gates updates on stuff actually working? | 19:11 |
| mordred | fungi: s/or whatever// | 19:11 |
| Clint | that's some rainbow-unicorn-pals | 19:12 |
| fungi | SpamapS: well, to the extent that the tests can validate that, yes | 19:12 |
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| SpamapS | It's possible we could get that for free with autopkgtest, but I feel like we've introduced too many new concepts already. :) | 19:12 |
| mordred | yah. I Think we can get a something | 19:12 |
| mordred | and then make it better | 19:12 |
| mordred | even if the first something isn't the best something | 19:12 |
| clarkb | tumbleweed figured it out | 19:12 |
| persia | I don't seem to share a channel with paultag today, but I know he wrote some stuff to do some of this for Tanglu, which might be suitable as a starting point, rather than starting from reprepro | 19:12 |
| SpamapS | So, MVP for this is just a reprepro built from UCA | 19:12 |
| jeblair | we can also make it worse but i wouldn't recommend that | 19:12 |
| fungi | SpamapS: we've wanted that for a while with our package mirrors just so we can avoid the issue of distro official mirrors or mirrors in service providers being in a broken state (so badly that sometimes apt-get update just breaks for hours straight) | 19:12 |
| clarkb | so it is doable | 19:12 |
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| romcheg1 | fungi: Sorry for poking, but your patch seems to be landed. Could you please re-trigger the job to release python-fuelclient-6.1.2? | 19:13 |
| Clint | persia: paultag is distracted by things atm | 19:13 |
| fungi | romcheg1: we had some delays with puppet getting changes out to our servers. i need to check the pypi upload worker and make sure that change propagated to it | 19:13 |
| fungi | romcheg1: but yes, i will | 19:13 |
| persia | Oh well. I'll see if I can find a real pointer then. | 19:13 |
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| romcheg1 | fungi: Thanks a lot! | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | Clint: I'm going to give you a new task from the storyboard to drive this. K? | 19:14 |
| Clint | SpamapS: i suppose i should ask how to get storyboard switched between ubuntu one whatsits then | 19:14 |
| romcheg1 | fungi: Could you please let me know, when it's re-triggered? | 19:14 |
| fungi | romcheg1: i will | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | Clint: StevenK has investigating options and reporting to the team, but I think this is more "put together an MVP repo and document in the package building spec" | 19:15 |
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| Clint | SpamapS: where mvp repo == plain mirror | 19:15 |
| jeblair | SpamapS, Clint: can we get the spec updated and merged first? | 19:15 |
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| persia | https://github.com/opencollab/debile | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | Clint: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000175 <-- you have a task there now | 19:17 |
| Clint | persia: ahhh, i forgot about that | 19:17 |
| persia | Should save some time instead of starting with reprepro. Not precisely what is needed. | 19:17 |
| persia | But the ability to run custom tooling on mirror should be helpful. | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: Sorry, I'm a trial-and-error person so specs tend to trail POC's for me. I think we should focus on the spec 100%, and if Clint can reason about it properly before the POC, then seems like it would be his call when to start noodling with tools. | 19:18 |
| persia | And I suspect the code running in production for Tanglu (which I can't find at the moment) probably has some of the mirror-catching stuff. | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: and likewise, StevenK probably would like to read this backscroll and at least be involved in the spec reboot we just hashed out. :) | 19:19 |
| mrmartin | fungi, pleia2 puppet run seems to be ok now on openstackid.org http://puppetboard.openstack.org/report/openstackid.org/f39e037ca14c10fccbfb6159b1b28f5dd7061d78 | 19:19 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: i hear you; i'm just trying to balance that with not wanting to freeze StevenK out, and making sure we can all collaborate cross-timezone, etc. so yeah, i think "poc to see if what i'm about to write is remotely feasible" is more cool than "implement the thing and write the spec for it later"; i guess i wasn't clear where on the spectrum your suggestion was :) | 19:20 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: there are also openstack projects where apparently people write specs and then get them approved after the code lands.... | 19:21 |
| fungi | pleia2: mrmartin: mystery solved too... looks like deploy.sh needs extra privs to check status http://paste.openstack.org/show/333002/ | 19:21 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: I may have been suggesting Clint push his cart with a horse. ;) | 19:21 |
| Clint | and then lifeless can huff it | 19:21 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: so i guess i'm sensitive to that, and want to make sure that folks know our intended use of specs is "get approval for idea (spec merged) then implement" | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | I also keep forgetting that when I say "Clint: something something something" thats not just my inner monologue. | 19:22 |
| jeblair | or really s/approval/agreement/ | 19:22 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: yeah, nah, thanks :) | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: also I just raised priority of the investigate package building task to High, as not having it is going to start complicating other things. | 19:23 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: ++ | 19:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic Kilo jobs https://review.openstack.org/196709 | 19:31 |
| AJaeger_ | clarkb, fungi: removed python 2.6 ^ | 19:31 |
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| fungi | AJaeger_: lgtm, though will probably merge-conflict with 197687 | 19:37 |
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| lifeless | persia: Clint: ?! | 19:37 |
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| persia | lifeless: Discussing ways to handle mirroring UCA, and then having some custom -infra packages layered above that, ideally sanely. | 19:38 |
| persia | It was thought you would likely have an opinion about ways of doing this. | 19:38 |
| Clint | lifeless: the horse, not the cart | 19:38 |
| lifeless | I'll think about it and swing back | 19:38 |
| lifeless | right now its morning bootstrap | 19:38 |
| persia | My understanding is that the consensus was to write stuff up, and make sure you had a chance to review before doing anything. | 19:38 |
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| persia | Also, Good morning :) | 19:39 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi: yeah, expect so... Shall I rebase it after 197687? | 19:42 |
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| fungi | romcheg1: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-fuelclient is updated now | 19:42 |
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| fungi | AJaeger_: wouldn't be a bad idea, just to get that out of the way now | 19:42 |
| lifeless | fungi: are there images with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197400/ on yet? I was pinged in -nova about what looks like the older colde | 19:42 |
| lifeless | *code* | 19:43 |
| fungi | lifeless: looking now | 19:43 |
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| * AJaeger_ is rebasing... | 19:43 | |
| lifeless | http://logs.openstack.org/69/175569/20/check/gate-nova-requirements/3119838/console.html#_2015-06-30_23_23_23_621 | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic Kilo jobs https://review.openstack.org/196709 | 19:43 |
| romcheg1 | fungi: thanks! | 19:43 |
| AJaeger_ | fungi, didn't cause any conflicts, still can't hurt to have it this way | 19:43 |
| fungi | lifeless: everywhere except hpcloud-b5 and rax-ord got updated bare-trusty images today. i'll get those two spinning right now | 19:44 |
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| lifeless | fungi: thanks | 19:44 |
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| AJaeger_ | fungi, your +2 for 196709 is still there ;) | 19:44 |
| fungi | jenkins06 is unhappy. grr. seeing if i can get it into shutdown and then clean it up and restart it | 19:45 |
| fungi | we're apparently over-quota in rax-ord. i'll see if i can figure out what's leaked there | 19:45 |
| lifeless | fungi: I thought jenkinses were separate? | 19:46 |
| fungi | they are | 19:46 |
| lifeless | fungi: or - were those two separate utterances ;) | 19:46 |
| fungi | lifeless: me noticing multiple problems that need attention | 19:47 |
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| lifeless | FIRE | 19:47 |
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| fungi | wow. no need to put jenkins06 into shutdown after all! [Wed Jul 1 12:00:55 2015] Out of memory: Kill process 23001 (java) score 905 or sacrifice child | 19:47 |
| jeblair | it's helpful like that | 19:47 |
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| fungi | it's like it knew _just_ what i needed | 19:47 |
| jeblair | fungi: it looks like some ord nodes are in the nova 'deleted' state for quite some time | 19:51 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, someone reading that oomkiller message without context (or the rest of the log) would probably think the computer is telling you to sacrifice your child if you didn't want it to kill java :) | 19:52 |
| fungi | jeblair: interesting. i wonder why they're not deleting, and why they're counting against our quota | 19:52 |
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| jeblair | fungi: indeed | 19:53 |
| fungi | mtreinish: it's a kernel hostage crisis | 19:53 |
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| TheJulia | mordred: or any other infra folks that might know, have you guys managed to use the simple-init element with centos7 successfully? | 19:55 |
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| fungi | ianw: ^ ? i think you did some work with dibified devstack centos 7 workers? | 19:55 |
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| fungi | jenkins02 looks like it's gotten pretty leaky too, so i'm quiescing it for cleanup | 19:57 |
| clarkb | TheJulia: I don't think we are using simple init with centos7 yet | 19:57 |
| clarkb | unsure if it has been attempted | 19:57 |
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| fungi | ugh, jenkins03 needs help as well. i'll do that one too | 19:58 |
| TheJulia | clarkb: that would kind of explain it not working unless I reset the service and start it manually. :( | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | TheJulia: centos7 is a systemd distro, prehaps related to that? | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: openSUSE: Fix link to the images download folder https://review.openstack.org/197501 | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: opensuse: Update README https://review.openstack.org/197719 | 20:01 |
| greghaynes | TheJulia: We havent really tested it much at all | 20:02 |
| TheJulia | clarkb: definitly related, although I'm not convinced that systemd is actually calling simple-init again. | 20:02 |
| greghaynes | TheJulia: Yea, I wouldnt be surprised | 20:02 |
| fungi | clarkb: if you want an easy review, https://review.openstack.org/197662 fixes that we somehow approved a project creation with no acl at all | 20:02 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I just approved the icehouse removal change stack too | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove managed stable/icehouse branch testing https://review.openstack.org/197687 | 20:03 |
| fungi | clarkb: i saw, i'll keep an eye on jobs once that merges | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: opensuse: Update README https://review.openstack.org/197719 | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: openSUSE: Fix link to the images download folder https://review.openstack.org/197501 | 20:03 |
| fungi | clarkb: i've already abandoned all open icehouse backports for those projects, so as soon as it's applied i can go on a branch-deleting bender | 20:04 |
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| fungi | and then send an eol announcement to the usual lists and prepare for the deluge of hatemail which inevitably follows | 20:04 |
| clarkb | embrace the dark side | 20:05 |
| TheJulia | we have cookies! | 20:05 |
| jeblair | fungi: or send the mail as "OpenStack Proposal Bot" | 20:05 |
| Clint | ha | 20:05 |
| fungi | jeblair: hah, the poor bot gets enough hatemail as it is | 20:05 |
| fungi | jeblair: using my old alien node detection methods, i see a lot of aliens in rax. 27 in dfw | 20:06 |
| fungi | jeblair: the list of uuids is in nodepool:~fungi/rax-dfw.aliens | 20:06 |
| fungi | i'm seeing what i can identify about any of them | 20:07 |
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| fungi | jeblair: it looks like nodepoold knows at least some of these are aliens and is itself logging its attempts to delete them | 20:07 |
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| fungi | jeblair: ahh, yep, deleted status in nova | 20:09 |
| fungi | jeblair: when you said there were a bunch in ord, did you perchance mean dfw? | 20:09 |
| fungi | some are also in error status according to nova | 20:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Move python 3.4 jobs out of python 2.6 list https://review.openstack.org/197695 | 20:12 |
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| Clint | SpamapS: is it expected that UCA has a lot of broken checksums? | 20:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Reuse ironic ACLs for ironic-webclient https://review.openstack.org/197662 | 20:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: out of the 27 in that list, nova says 2 are active, 12 are deleted and 13 are error | 20:13 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 20:13 |
| mriedem | is it just me or is launchpad not putting links in bug reports when a review is posted for the bug? | 20:13 |
| mriedem | it's changing status to in progress though | 20:13 |
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| krotscheck | I have QA-core approval on a project addition, can infra cores take a look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194938/ | 20:13 |
| jeblair | fungi: i thought i was checking ord | 20:14 |
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| fungi | mriedem: on a change where the bug was mentioned in the commit message of the initial patchset, or only added in a later patchset? if it really was in the initial patchset, maybe the ~hudson-openstack account lost bug supervisor membership over the project in question and can no longer reassign? | 20:15 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, i simply checked them all, and dfw turned out to be pretty massively crufty | 20:15 |
| mriedem | fungi: initial ps1 | 20:15 |
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| mriedem | fungi: i bet thta's the case, i got an email about nova bug team membership last week | 20:16 |
| jeblair | fungi: probably a good idea to check on those 2 and see if they change state | 20:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add periodic Kilo jobs https://review.openstack.org/196709 | 20:16 |
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| jeblair | fungi: but at least, that suggests that as far as nodepool leaks go, we're at somewhere between 0-2, which is a definite improvement. | 20:16 |
| mriedem | fungi: and i don't see hudson here https://launchpad.net/~nova-bugs/+members#active | 20:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: i think perhaps we were never quite sure whether a nova 'deleted' instance counted against quota, and maybe nodepool assumes that it does not. maybe we need to reverse that assumption. | 20:17 |
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| clarkb | not to be *that* person but does 194938 need to enforce CLA since its openstack/ ? | 20:17 |
| fungi | jeblair: ooh, yeah 27 in a deleted state in ord. ugly | 20:17 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: ^ | 20:18 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: Does hacking? | 20:18 |
| fungi | mriedem: it's the "OpenStack Infra" user on page 2, so that's not the issue | 20:19 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 20:19 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: yes hacking does | 20:19 |
| mriedem | fungi: oh, ok, nvm then | 20:19 |
| clarkb | oh wait no | 20:19 |
| clarkb | hrm I dunno then | 20:19 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: Well, teh openstack/* thing came because apparently there's open tent things and efforst to move hacking under openstack. | 20:20 |
| krotscheck | I do _not_understand the depths of what's going on there. | 20:20 |
| fungi | mriedem: another possibility is that launchpad changed its bug api and now we're failing to reassign... or that we've introduced some bug into the hook script that does that | 20:21 |
| krotscheck | Or, for taht matter, what the CLA means. | 20:21 |
| asselin | nibalizer, jeblair cmmon-zuul patches have been updated per our disucssion. We should merge them when things calm down: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176010/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175970/ | 20:21 |
| fungi | mriedem: do you have a recent example (for a change started in the past couple weeks maybe)? | 20:21 |
| krotscheck | clarkb: But fwiw, given that the rules are openstack specific, I don't have a problem with CLA or Not CLA. | 20:21 |
| mriedem | fungi: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197721/ | 20:21 |
| krotscheck | I just don't know how to express it in gerrit. | 20:22 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/acls/openstack/aodh.config#n12 | 20:22 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: Ah, ok, that makes sense. | 20:23 |
| krotscheck | Is that a thing we want? | 20:23 |
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| krotscheck | Or rather: I, as the person working on it, don't really care. Other people will care more than me. Can we identify those other peoples who care and ask them whether they actually care? | 20:23 |
| clarkb | the trouble is the people that actually care are legal counsels for $company and they don't seem to directly interact with us | 20:25 |
| clarkb | fwiw I +2'd if someone think it needs to go in they can -1 | 20:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: CNN really wants me to know that you should avoid your shark infested waters | 20:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb: Default to no series in update_bug.py https://review.openstack.org/197725 | 20:28 |
| fungi | mriedem: recently introduced bug ^ in jeepyb wins this round! | 20:28 |
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| fungi | clarkb: yes, sharks like to nibble on the tourists. especially the ones not smart enough to avoid swimming next to the piers where people are fishing and getting said sharks all excited | 20:29 |
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| fungi | we've had a few choppered out of here and up over state lines to the hospital in the past couple weeks | 20:30 |
| krotscheck | fungi: At least you getting tornadoes is unlikey | 20:30 |
| mriedem | fungi: sweet, thanks | 20:30 |
| fungi | krotscheck: instead we get waterspouts which can be nearly as bad | 20:30 |
| fungi | krotscheck: they're still tornadoes, they just call them something else because they form over the water | 20:30 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Eeeehhh.... sharkwaterspout doesn't have the same ring. Can we just call them sharknado's and be done with it? | 20:31 |
| fungi | krotscheck: sold! | 20:31 |
| krotscheck | fungi: next openstack project you incubate has to be called sharknado | 20:32 |
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| clarkb | will that pass legal review >_> probably depends on whether or not you use apache storm | 20:33 |
| * krotscheck perks up. | 20:34 | |
| krotscheck | Did you say storm? | 20:34 |
| krotscheck | :D | 20:34 |
| krotscheck | Ok, I've got one +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194938/ , looking for one more! Going once, going twice.... | 20:35 |
| krotscheck | You, too, can help me continue to procastinate from writing documentation! | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make check-tempest-dsvm-networking-ovn voting https://review.openstack.org/197728 | 20:35 |
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| crinkle | jeblair: nibalizer: when you have a moment could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197377/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190839/ to confirm whether it's in line with what we talked about? | 20:36 |
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| nibalizer | asselin: crinkle pushing it on the stack | 20:39 |
| jeblair | crinkle: hrm, why is r10k needed? (i read the part that it's recommended, but i'm wondering why, as it seems like the sort of network traffic that we would want to avoid) | 20:39 |
| crinkle | jeblair: it is not more network traffic than writing a shell script to clone each repo | 20:40 |
| jeblair | crinkle: zuul-cloner will use the local cache | 20:40 |
| jeblair | so we're sort of defeating its optimizations | 20:41 |
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| crinkle | jeblair: good point, i can rework it to avoid the duplication | 20:43 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: i don't understand | 20:43 |
| jeblair | crinkle: would simply this approach work? "if zuul-cloner exists: zuul-cloner; else: r10k! | 20:43 |
| jeblair | er that was supposed to be a ", but ! is nice too i guess | 20:44 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: my to do task | 20:44 |
| crinkle | jeblair: that doesn't account for the modules that can't be zuul-cloned | 20:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Octavia: enable a voting py34 gate on master https://review.openstack.org/197732 | 20:45 |
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| jeblair | crinkle: got it; maybe split the list and apply that to the ones that can, and just r10k the rest | 20:45 |
| crinkle | jeblair: that's what i'm thinking | 20:45 |
| jeblair | crinkle: we should also, probably at a later time, look into caching those dependencies on build images and then making use of that for the same reason. but we should let the dust settle on the nodepool dib work first. | 20:45 |
| crinkle | jeblair: sounds good | 20:46 |
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| jeblair | (very far aside: perhaps as part of the zuul+github work, zuul-cloner might grow the ability to clone/update an external git repo from a local cache) | 20:47 |
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| mordred | lifeless: if you're around, notmyname has a question about pbr, hacking and swift (he just ran in to an instance of the general class of problems you've been fixing) | 20:48 |
| mordred | lifeless: notmyname | mordred: so is it worth proposing a fix to global requirements to update teh min version of pbr (or hacking)? | 20:48 |
| lifeless | hi | 20:49 |
| notmyname | hi | 20:49 |
| mordred | lifeless: notmyname | mordred: or will that get fixed later? | 20:49 |
| mordred | oh look. you're both here | 20:49 |
| lifeless | so its awkward | 20:49 |
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| lifeless | 0.11 is the only overlap between master and stable/kilo | 20:49 |
| notmyname | 0.11 on what? | 20:49 |
| lifeless | pbr | 20:49 |
| lifeless | kilo is <1.0 | 20:49 |
| lifeless | master is >=0.11 | 20:49 |
| lifeless | if we move master to say >=1.2 (for instance) then there's no overlap and we've had bad experiences in the past there. | 20:50 |
| notmyname | hacking 0.10.0 and 0.10.1 (which are both allowed), caps pbr at <1.0 | 20:50 |
| lifeless | yes, as do many other kilo branches of things | 20:50 |
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| lifeless | notmyname: ah, in g-r master? | 20:51 |
| notmyname | yes | 20:51 |
| lifeless | notmyname: yes, we should raise the hacking minimums I think | 20:51 |
| lifeless | notmyname: raising pbr's minimum is tricky because of its use as a setup_requires | 20:51 |
| lifeless | notmyname: literally none of the problems we've had would have been avoided by a higher pbr minimum in g-r | 20:51 |
| notmyname | hmm | 20:52 |
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| lifeless | notmyname: because the pbr references in requirements.txt are evaluated *after* the downgraded pbr has tried and failed. | 20:52 |
| notmyname | right. that's the problem we got | 20:52 |
| lifeless | notmyname: its a great big honking defect in the otherwise great declarative stuff pip does | 20:52 |
| lifeless | notmyname: and I have a proof of concept to fix it | 20:52 |
| lifeless | notmyname: but its queued up behind the constraints work | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Cody Littley proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fixed crash in exception handler https://review.openstack.org/195172 | 20:52 |
| notmyname | we've had a stack of patches blocked by the gate for about a week or so because our requirements has an older hacking version. we have just now figured it out that updating the hacking version will unblock things | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Cody Littley proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Fixed crash in exception handler https://review.openstack.org/195172 | 20:54 |
| lifeless | notmyname: oh! I wish someone had chatted with me, I would have helped diagnose. | 20:55 |
| notmyname | but it's mildly irritating to have to update a dependency when your use of it hasn't changed but suddenly it breaks because external packages that you don't use are updated | 20:55 |
| lifeless | notmyname: I did send mails to the list about it | 20:55 |
| lifeless | notmyname: I agree | 20:55 |
| lifeless | notmyname: the problem is again that we can't version dep setup_requires [yet] | 20:55 |
| notmyname | yeah, I saw something about the ;python== stuff, whcih is where we were breaking | 20:56 |
| lifeless | notmyname: once we can, each package can declare the right build dep for it, and pip will take care of doing the build in an isolated env | 20:56 |
| notmyname | but since global requirements is what's used instead of the local requirements in the project, we didn't realize how we were affected by it | 20:57 |
| notmyname | ie we have a dependency on something that global requriements added the ;python== stuff to, and that's what broke | 20:57 |
| fungi | some of this pain also comes back to the need for a sane and stateful dep solver in pip. right now to guarantee co-installability of things we're stuck declaring identical versions of requirements across all of them. it's not that we _want_ that situation | 20:57 |
| notmyname | I've got to go run the swift team meeting now | 20:57 |
| notmyname | mordred: thanks for the info | 20:58 |
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| notmyname | lifeless: thanks for fixing this, long term :-) | 20:58 |
| notmyname | I'm looking forward to it | 20:58 |
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| fungi | i'm especially looking forward to upcoming pip release including lifeless's solver | 20:58 |
| fungi | that opens us up to a lot more flexibility around divergent versions of requirements | 20:59 |
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| clarkb | fungi: we will still need to use the constraints file for testing though | 20:59 |
| clarkb | and constraints can't be circumvented by setup_requires so have to be careful until those allow a version spec | 21:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, but projects will be a lot more free to declare differing ranges of support for things | 21:00 |
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| jeblair | fungi: can i add a rdns entry for ask-staging? | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | fungi: right as long as its resolvable for constraints and doesn't prevent us from depending on bugfixes or security fixes that we need | 21:01 |
| fungi | jeblair: oh, i'll do it now. i didn't realize it was still spamming | 21:01 |
| jeblair | looks like Subject: Cron <root@ask-staging> /bin/bash /srv/askbot-site/cron/clean_session.sh | 21:02 |
| jeblair | spams regularly | 21:02 |
| fungi | jeblair: yep, "There are 2944 expired sessions ..." | 21:02 |
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| fungi | jeblair: ptr records added now | 21:04 |
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| krotscheck | Hypothetically speaking, if I were to be able to generate a .lcov report for code coverage somehow, is there a place where that might be uploadable so that it integrates into our gate somehow? | 21:06 |
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| clarkb | krotscheck: the way we do coverage with python projects is to have the job render an html report then we host that with the job logs | 21:07 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: nodepool runs it in check if you want an example | 21:07 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: So sortof like the js draft job, except you get the coverage report. | 21:08 |
| krotscheck | Excellent. | 21:08 |
| clarkb | krotscheck: yup | 21:08 |
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| krotscheck | clarkb: It turns out the javascript coverage tool is crazy simple. It spaws a process that wraps the test runner, intercepts all filesystem commands issued by the same, and only instruments those files that the test runner asks for. | 21:09 |
| fungi | lifeless: the last of the bare-trusty images from earlier are caught up now, so rechecks should get the latest version of that script now | 21:10 |
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| lifeless | dims: ^ | 21:13 |
| fungi | okay, jenkins02 and 03 have been cleaned up and started again | 21:13 |
| lifeless | fungi: thanks | 21:13 |
| clarkb | fungi: was it looking like the thread leak again? | 21:13 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep | 21:13 |
| fungi | clarkb: i had to do 05 and 06 earlier in the week too | 21:14 |
| clarkb | I don't think my jenkins bug has gotten anymore traction once I provided the concrete thread dump ingo | 21:14 |
| clarkb | which is sad because why ask me if its just going to be ignored :/ | 21:14 |
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| fungi | clarkb: probably because there are 100 people who know how to tell when there's not enough detail in the bug, and 2 who actually stand a chance of interpreting the additional detail once it's added | 21:15 |
| fungi | "please attach a thread dump" is the bug triage equivalent of submitting changes to correct typos in code comments | 21:16 |
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| fungi | i'm going to pop out for food and some evening errands. bbiaw | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 21:38 |
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| Sukhdev | fungi: If I may bug you for a quick question | 21:42 |
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| Sukhdev | fungi: see this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195247/ | 21:42 |
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| Sukhdev | fungi: it is in merge conflict - wondering if there is a painless way to resolve the merge conflict - short of pushing new patch and loosing all the votes? | 21:43 |
| greghaynes | Sukhdev: Generally people should be able to recognize that it was just a merge conflict resolution and assume the votes are still there | 21:44 |
| Sukhdev | pops sorry did not see fungi is gone out :-) | 21:44 |
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| greghaynes | most projects have some convention around that | 21:45 |
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| greghaynes | but yea, its a process fix not a technical one | 21:45 |
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| Sukhdev | greghaynes: so have to pull, merge, and push a new one, right? no other painless way around? | 21:46 |
| greghaynes | Yep | 21:46 |
| greghaynes | pull, rebase, push | 21:46 |
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| Sukhdev | greghaynes: right - thanks | 21:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: fix passing of byte object to url request method https://review.openstack.org/197752 | 21:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomoki Sekiyama proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Check requirements changes for each of python2 and python3 https://review.openstack.org/197753 | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add openstack/designate-dashboard to projects https://review.openstack.org/197530 | 22:19 |
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| tonyb | BobBall: Umm I'm not sure when the publisher runs. | 22:30 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Run geard for nodepool tests https://review.openstack.org/194928 | 22:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Enable CORS for app-catalog https://review.openstack.org/194875 | 22:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Run geard for nodepool tests https://review.openstack.org/194928 | 22:39 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman https://review.openstack.org/195175 | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 22:41 |
| tsekiyama | Requirements.txt update by OpenStack Proposal Bot (and also by humans) is failing in the CI for some projects (e.g. Nova, Glance) now. I hope https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197753/ will fix the issue. Could some one review this please? | 22:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Switch to using constraints files. https://review.openstack.org/194886 | 22:49 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 22:59 |
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| lifeless | sob | 23:07 |
| lifeless | glance has -e git+https://github.com/openstack/glance_store.git#egg=glance_store | 23:07 |
| lifeless | in requirements.txt :/ | 23:07 |
| lifeless | hmm, the py3 version | 23:07 |
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| mgagne | is there some literature available about nodepool subnode support I can read and how I can use it? | 23:09 |
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| lifeless | I think tere are docs in the infra docs area about nodepool stuff | 23:10 |
| greghaynes | mgagne: theres some info on http://docs.openstack.org/infra/nodepool/scripts.html in reguards to what info is there for each node | 23:10 |
| clarkb | mgagne: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/nodepool/configuration.html tells you how to configure it and http://docs.openstack.org/infra/nodepool/scripts.html#ready-script describes the info left on the nodes | 23:10 |
| greghaynes | hehe, yea, that | 23:10 |
| mgagne | I think I missed the scripts part | 23:10 |
| mgagne | will read | 23:10 |
| mgagne | if I understand correctly, ready-script will be run on the primary node which can in turn prepare the su nodes? | 23:11 |
| clarkb | mgagne: a | 23:11 |
| clarkb | *ya | 23:11 |
| mgagne | and /etc/nodepool/id_rsa is the key to use to connect to those sub nodes right? | 23:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Gandelman proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Call sudo pip /w -H diskimage-builder-install macro https://review.openstack.org/197767 | 23:16 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello Infra folks, this needs your blessing/review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195341/ | 23:17 |
| pleia2 | Sukhdev: moves require scheduled downtime for gerrit, can you add this to this section of the wiki? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames | 23:18 |
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| greghaynes | adam_g: the sudo -H pip - does that fail because of the cached wheels? | 23:19 |
| greghaynes | er, does that fail without -H because that | 23:20 |
| adam_g | greghaynes, http://logs.openstack.org/73/736a7c9bfcb83367c722ca21ef55d0aa6093dd12/post/akanda-appliance-buildimage/884ae24/console.html | 23:20 |
| clarkb | ya what happens is the dir gets owned by root in your homedir and you can't write new wheels to it | 23:20 |
| clarkb | so you -H so that they go in roots homedir separate from your users cache | 23:20 |
| greghaynes | yea, makes sense | 23:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Enable CORS for app-catalog https://review.openstack.org/194875 | 23:23 |
| Sukhdev | pleia2: Thanks - I just added it to the wiki. This will need some +1/+2, right? | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | Sukhdev: yes, people will look at it but we don't approve until a rename window comes up | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | that's when we'll go through all of them a couple days before and make sure they're ready | 23:25 |
| Sukhdev | pleia2: got it - thanks | 23:25 |
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| mordred | morning greghaynes | 23:41 |
| greghaynes | morning? are you in SEA or something? | 23:41 |
| mordred | greghaynes: nah - just bad at time :) | 23:41 |
| mordred | greghaynes: jeblair and I looked further at the swift thing earlier today and were till not able to reproduce it | 23:42 |
| greghaynes | mordred: yea - did you try doing an upload via nodepool command? | 23:42 |
| mordred | yah | 23:42 |
| greghaynes | did it work? | 23:42 |
| mordred | yah | 23:42 |
| mordred | I mean | 23:42 |
| mordred | there was a cloud failure | 23:42 |
| mordred | but the api calls all worked | 23:42 |
| greghaynes | so that supports the theory that nodepool is just running with an old python dep that has since been upgraded in the venv | 23:43 |
| greghaynes | and we just havent restarted nodepool | 23:43 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: that's the best theory I've got | 23:43 |
| greghaynes | sweet, well we should restart it and hopefully forget about this | 23:43 |
| mordred | greghaynes: also - I saw a mentino of NOC things - did you do things with the noc people? (or the crabpeople?) | 23:44 |
| greghaynes | mordred: Yea, they are doing another inventory of our hardware, just getting them somewhat sanely formatted data (for their definition of sane which seems to be able to put into a spreadsheet) | 23:44 |
| greghaynes | havent heard back from them since I sent that off a couple days ago | 23:45 |
| mordred | greghaynes: cool! it'll be neat to have that bit done | 23:45 |
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| greghaynes | also as a PSA - im going to be traveling a bit next week but in theory I should be around, then the following two weeks I have vacation | 23:46 |
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| Clint | hiding from oscon | 23:48 |
| greghaynes | yep! | 23:49 |
| greghaynes | actually, I am going to europython which seems to be at the same time | 23:49 |
| greghaynes | just to be different | 23:49 |
| mordred | yay! | 23:49 |
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| clarkb | I bet oscon has better beer but worse spanish | 23:50 |
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| Clint | also IETF93 | 23:51 |
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| mordred | fwiw, I'll also be on vacation OSCON week | 23:54 |
| greghaynes | will you be on vacation at OSCON? | 23:55 |
| mordred | followed by 3 weeks of conference/travel followed by a week of vacation - but I'm here and working the next two weeks | 23:55 |
| mordred | greghaynes: nope! | 23:55 |
| mordred | greghaynes: I will be on vacation in panama | 23:55 |
| greghaynes | oh, nice | 23:55 |
| greghaynes | hah | 23:55 |
| greghaynes | wow | 23:55 |
| mordred | where they will have probably much better spanish | 23:55 |
| mordred | although I'm not sure why the quality of the spanish is important :) | 23:55 |
| greghaynes | Yes, just a different kind | 23:56 |
| greghaynes | I think clarkb meant because europython is in Bilbao | 23:56 |
| clarkb | mordred it speaks to the cultural experience | 23:56 |
| clarkb | eg its not MURICA | 23:56 |
| mordred | ah | 23:56 |
| mordred | wll yes then | 23:56 |
| mordred | I will vacation in panama | 23:56 |
| mordred | then I will conference for a while | 23:56 |
| mordred | then I will vacation in bali | 23:57 |
| clarkb | I hope you have excellent MURICA plans for freedom day | 23:57 |
| mordred | \o/ | 23:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm going to freedom all the MURICAs | 23:57 |
| mordred | clarkb: which will mostly involve drinking on my roof | 23:57 |
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| mordred | clarkb: are the twins excited about explosions yet? | 23:57 |
| clarkb | mordred I doubt it, though watchingbthem startle can be funny | 23:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: I'm guessing they are excited by few things that are !(sleep|food) | 23:58 |
| clarkb | there is a decebt chance we will have a firework ban though, will be interesting to see how that is enforced | 23:59 |
| mordred | good luck with that | 23:59 |
| greghaynes | I think it is full on burn ban ATM | 23:59 |
| Clint | no more firepits | 23:59 |
| greghaynes | yea, seriously, in portland on the 4th it gets a bit crazy | 23:59 |
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| fungi | mordred: greghaynes: for the "not restarted in a while" datapoint, nodepoold was last restarted on june 19, ~12 days ago | 23:59 |
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