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| clarkb | mtreinish: commented really think we should make the db uri configurable | 00:04 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: ok, sure. I was on the fence about that, but when I saw that es was hardcoded I erred on the side of laziness | 00:06 |
| clarkb | oh is es hardcoded too? | 00:06 |
| clarkb | maybe I should revoke my -1 then | 00:06 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: thoughts on the other comment? thats mostly me trying to be too smart | 00:07 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/elastic-recheck/tree/elastic_recheck/elasticRecheck.py#n28 | 00:07 |
| clarkb | well then | 00:07 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: maybe make it a global too jus so its clear and findable? | 00:07 |
| clarkb | eg here is a constant looking like a constant | 00:07 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: nah, I thought about that too, I mean I could make the whole thing one giant query | 00:07 |
| cody-somerville | We'd prefer it to be configurable. | 00:08 |
| clarkb | cody-somerville: sure but that should be a follow up change | 00:08 |
| clarkb | (that you can write :) ) as its unrelated to the curent change | 00:08 |
| mtreinish | the only thing is I'll have to add a db api method to do whatever | 00:08 |
| mtreinish | but I'm fine with that | 00:08 |
| cody-somerville | :) | 00:08 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: sure I'll move it to a global, that's easy enough | 00:09 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: also on the sql v python thing, it also assumes we have things properly indexed :) | 00:10 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: good point | 00:11 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: the release today actually included a migration which added a bunch of indexes | 00:11 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: if you get a sec can you check /var/log/subunit2sql_migration.log on logstash.o.o | 00:12 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (_mysql_exceptions.OperationalError) (1071, 'Specified key was too long; max key length is 767 bytes') [SQL: u'CREATE INDEX ix_test_id_status ON test_runs (test_id, status)'] | 00:13 |
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| mtreinish | hmm, ok well that's something to figure out how to get around | 00:14 |
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| clarkb | is status more than 767 bytes? | 00:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Fix erroneously deleting non-leaked instances https://review.openstack.org/210149 | 00:14 |
| mtreinish | it's 256 bytes (well a string 256) | 00:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/nodepool: Remove terminated image/instance delete threads https://review.openstack.org/210150 | 00:15 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: whihc is utf8 so 3 bytes pre | 00:16 |
| clarkb | I think | 00:16 |
| mtreinish | oh, that would do it then | 00:17 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: mysql doesn't do variable length utf8 it allocated either 3 or 4 bytes per char dpeending on the utf8 encoding you selected | 00:17 |
| clarkb | this is appraently an optimization to trade disk space for cpu time | 00:18 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: well I can look into adding a prefix on the index to limit its size, but that would require changing the migration in a non-backwards compat manner | 00:20 |
| mtreinish | or can we change that limit? | 00:20 |
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| clarkb | thats a question for mordred SpamapS devananda Clint | 00:21 |
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| SpamapS | so... | 00:21 |
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| SpamapS | utf8 has 3 or 4 bytes per char()... | 00:22 |
| SpamapS | mysql's b-trees are _fixed_ width | 00:22 |
| SpamapS | so, you have 2 choices really | 00:22 |
| SpamapS | 1) if you are only ever going to do ranged queries, you can add a length to the field name, and only index on the prefix. | 00:22 |
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| SpamapS | so if the field is varchar(255) you can 'create index foo_ix on table1 textfield(64) and only index the first 64 characters. | 00:23 |
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| SpamapS | OR, you can ask yourself if you care about sorting and multibyte characters. If you don't, care about either of those, then you can make the field varbinary(255) and it will justwork(tm) | 00:24 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: ^ | 00:24 |
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| mtreinish | SpamapS: yeah I was thinking about #1 but it would require breaking backwards compat on a released migration | 00:25 |
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| clarkb | I am kinda amaed status needs to be that big | 00:25 |
| clarkb | can we make it an enum instead? | 00:25 |
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| mtreinish | granted I don't really know how many users we have out there besides infra, if any | 00:25 |
| mtreinish | but if we don't have a choice I guess that's what we have to do | 00:26 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: the length being shortened wouldn't break backward compat. It would just go sllllooowwww for things that were fast? | 00:26 |
| SpamapS | because you'd just be making the index smaller and less useful. | 00:26 |
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| SpamapS | but it would still "work" | 00:26 |
| mtreinish | oh, that's a good point | 00:26 |
| SpamapS | just that you end up doing index scans sometimes instead of single index key reads. | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | but you're also scanning a much smaller index. | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: whats the field content? | 00:27 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: well tbh I really need to shrink that column because it's never that big | 00:27 |
| mtreinish | but that's a headache because the table is really big | 00:27 |
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| SpamapS | mtreinish: "status" ? | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: binary that. | 00:27 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: you never have a status of '☃' right? | 00:28 |
| SpamapS | also wow http://unicodesnowmanforyou.com/ | 00:28 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: is status not skip, pass, fail? | 00:28 |
| clarkb | that can be enumed | 00:29 |
| mtreinish | status show only ever be: exists, xfail, unxsuccess, success, fail, or skip | 00:29 |
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| SpamapS | if that's the case then yeah, enum | 00:29 |
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| SpamapS | and mysql 5.5+ has online enum alters so you don't have to worry about "oh now more statuses we have to rebuild the whole table" anymore. | 00:30 |
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| mtreinish | SpamapS, clarkb: ok sure, that makes sense to switch it to enum. But I'm pretty sure I'll have to do that after the failing migration | 00:31 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: yeah, for the failing one, just shorten the index. | 00:32 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: that will be backward compatible and quite safe | 00:32 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: do you know how to do that in sqlalchemy off the top of your head? | 00:32 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: no | 00:33 |
| mtreinish | ok, to the docs I go | 00:33 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: but probably an arg to the index object | 00:33 |
| lifeless | mtreinish: or pass :) | 00:36 |
| mtreinish | ugh, and I'm going to need to add checks before each index add now, because the migration is 75% applied | 00:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Set up file conditions for os-loganalyze https://review.openstack.org/208767 | 00:41 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: ^ | 00:41 |
| jhesketh | Clint: ping | 00:41 |
| Clint | jhesketh: hi | 00:41 |
| jhesketh | Clint: you wanted to discuss how swift log stuff was going at some point today? | 00:42 |
| Clint | jhesketh: i do! | 00:42 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: +2 thanks | 00:42 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: it's mysql_length=whatever_length | 00:43 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: ah right the length thing is mysql specific. | 00:43 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: do you have any idea why we wouldn't have caught this on the migration tests? a different mysql version? | 00:49 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: different encoding type probably | 00:49 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: mysql defaults to latin1 iirc | 00:49 |
| mtreinish | ah, ok that makes sense | 00:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Fix issues in migration 1ff737bef438 https://review.openstack.org/210166 | 00:52 |
| mtreinish | clarkb, SpamapS: ^^^ | 00:52 |
| Clint | jhesketh: so i see 5 open topical changes | 00:52 |
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| jhesketh | Clint: so as far as I know, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208767/ is the only one on the critical path. After that we can start moving more jobs across | 01:00 |
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| Clint | jhesketh: anything about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-logs-status-yaml look inaccurate? | 01:03 |
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| jhesketh | Clint: looks good to me | 01:04 |
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| Clint | jhesketh: okay, thanks. let me know if any blockers should arise | 01:05 |
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| jhesketh | will do, thanks! | 01:06 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: we need to do index generation of higher level dirs | 01:07 |
| clarkb | will have to query swift for listings and generate o nthe fly I think | 01:07 |
| clarkb | or maybe we can ask swift for an autogenerated index? unsure | 01:07 |
| jhesketh | oh yeah, I forgot about that... | 01:07 |
| jhesketh | is that a hard requirement before moving jobs across? | 01:07 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: I think jeblair wanted it ya | 01:07 |
| clarkb | as its a ui navigation thing | 01:08 |
| jhesketh | yeah I gave it some thought earlier in the week... I haven't checked if swift had some magic index generator, but I wouldn't have thought it did | 01:08 |
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| jhesketh | clarkb: the hard part is that due to a psuedo filesystem the top most directory will need to get the list for every object ever in our container | 01:08 |
| jhesketh | that's not somethign we want to do | 01:08 |
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| jhesketh | because it'll be depth-first bailing early will just give us a partial list | 01:09 |
| clarkb | good point | 01:09 |
| clarkb | since swift doesn't do dirs hrm | 01:09 |
| jhesketh | so we could only do it once you're a couple of dirs down | 01:09 |
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| jhesketh | I'm not entirely sure how useful it is to browse at the very root of the logs anyway | 01:09 |
| jhesketh | plus we also need to consider how to join it with filesystem results | 01:09 |
| jhesketh | or just fetch 1000-5000 objects at a time and if that doesn't get us the full breadth just add a note in the footer that it's truncated (so it'll probably truncate the root folder but start working once you go down a few levels) | 01:10 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: that seems very reasonable | 01:11 |
| jhesketh | or do a fancy ajax keep fetching as you scroll thingy | 01:12 |
| jhesketh | doesn't help with ctrl+F though | 01:12 |
| clarkb | ya I think ETOOMANYRECORDS is fine | 01:12 |
| clarkb | especially at that level | 01:12 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: hmm, swift might be able to do it for us anyway... there appears to be a delimiter option when querying the container list | 01:14 |
| jhesketh | so I'll have a play and see if there are other ways | 01:14 |
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| jhesketh | not sure what swift does internally though so it might still be resource heavy | 01:15 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: jhesketh: what are you looking for? | 01:22 |
| jhesketh | notmyname: we have a psuedo filesystem for the logs we are storing in swift | 01:23 |
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| jhesketh | if we wanted to list the root "directory" contents can we do that without having to do a depth first list? | 01:23 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: if I understand correctly, yes that's possible. | 01:24 |
| notmyname | let me type up an example | 01:24 |
| jhesketh | notmyname: shiny thanks! | 01:24 |
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| notmyname | jhesketh: https://gist.github.com/notmyname/bcd35426f15e69a367fd | 01:26 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: that's using normal authenticated requests | 01:27 |
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| notmyname | jhesketh: did I also see something about wanting to get auto-generated index listings? | 01:27 |
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| jhesketh | notmyname: thanks for that, looks good.. Will that handle containers will huge amounts of objects? (ie I assume swift isn't doing a depth first search internally) | 01:28 |
| jhesketh | notmyname: yes, we want to list to contents of the container so that it is browsable | 01:29 |
| notmyname | define huge ;-) | 01:29 |
| jhesketh | millions? | 01:29 |
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| notmyname | ok, let me demo that | 01:30 |
| jhesketh | heh, I believe you | 01:30 |
| notmyname | there's a trick. hang on ;-) | 01:30 |
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| jhesketh | okay :-) | 01:30 |
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| notmyname | jhesketh: ok, this one has a couple of things going on | 01:34 |
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| notmyname | jhesketh: first, I set the listing limit down to 5 (so I dont' have to add millions of objects) | 01:34 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: note in the headers that there are 12 objects in the container | 01:35 |
| notmyname | but each page is only 5 items long | 01:35 |
| notmyname | so I use the "marker" query to get the next page | 01:35 |
| notmyname | note also that the dir4 prefix does not exist in the first page of info | 01:35 |
| notmyname | but, it does show up with the delimiter=/ query | 01:35 |
| notmyname | thus implying a depth-first search internally | 01:36 |
| notmyname | however, the good news is that the object name is indexed, so it's not a full table scan | 01:36 |
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| jhesketh | notmyname: did you have a link to it? | 01:37 |
| notmyname | to what? | 01:37 |
| jhesketh | to what you were demoing | 01:37 |
| notmyname | lol, sorry | 01:38 |
| notmyname | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/notmyname/a37a853d61cfdcaa0b1c/raw/9fca5515b3c8d907af054bc2600494e20c0383a6/gistfile1.txt | 01:38 |
| jhesketh | cheers | 01:38 |
| notmyname | I completely skipped over that step | 01:38 |
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| notmyname | in this one I created an additional dir5/o1 and dir6/o1 so that the pseudo-folder page would be full https://gist.github.com/notmyname/a611d115c56b81f2a18a | 01:39 |
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| jhesketh | notmyname: doesn't that show that it isn't depth first? | 01:39 |
| notmyname | yes it does | 01:40 |
| jhesketh | cool | 01:40 |
| jhesketh | thanks for that :-) | 01:40 |
| jhesketh | so the listing limit is set on teh server, is there a way to query for the limit to know if we need to do a second page? | 01:40 |
| notmyname | yup. https://gist.github.com/notmyname/f81af820156d271ffe93 | 01:41 |
| notmyname | /info | 01:41 |
| notmyname | it's the max_container_listing_limit | 01:41 |
| jhesketh | awesome, thanks heaps :-) | 01:41 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: but the "rule" is that you (a) look at the limit and (b) request the next page until you get one that is less than the limit (including empty) | 01:42 |
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| notmyname | jhesketh: ok, one last thing. the auto-listings | 01:42 |
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| notmyname | jhesketh: https://gist.github.com/notmyname/c891659c75251220375f | 01:44 |
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| notmyname | so in that one, I first set the ACl to mark the container as public and also set the x-container-meta-web-listings header | 01:45 |
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| notmyname | then I requested with no auth creds (ie like a browser) the container, and I get back an html page that has the listings, including links to subdirs | 01:45 |
| jhesketh | interesting, that looks cool | 01:45 |
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| jhesketh | that's pretty much what we need... only downside is to figure out how to hook it into our on-disk listings | 01:46 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: we could use the swift index if the directory doesn't exist on disk... but that means we'll never list swift folders from the root dir | 01:46 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: you can also set a css file for the listings and a default index page so that a request to foo/bar/ will give you eg foo/bar/index.html | 01:46 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: docs, such as they are, are at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#staticweb | 01:46 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: and that functionality being enabled is detected in the /info request by looking for the staticweb key (see https://gist.github.com/notmyname/f81af820156d271ffe93) | 01:47 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: so in summary, seems that swift can do what you want out of the box, I think it's a pretty cool feature, and swift is awesome ;-) | 01:48 |
| jhesketh | right, that's quite useful | 01:48 |
| jhesketh | heh | 01:48 |
| jhesketh | notmyname: do you know if rackspace are using that middleware? | 01:48 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: yes, and exposed through the cdn too (I helped implement that a long time ago). I'm not sure about HP's cluster. I haven't played with that feature there yet | 01:49 |
| jhesketh | okay | 01:49 |
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| jhesketh | the tricky part is that we don't want to statically serve up the logs, we want to use os-loganalyze to mark them up | 01:49 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: actually, at swiftstack we use this feature, from RAX, as part of our 3rd party CI that runs | 01:49 |
| clarkb | its only exposed via cdb iirc | 01:49 |
| clarkb | which is the issue | 01:49 |
| clarkb | it cant do it out of the box | 01:50 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: https://8b86aea46fb38e6450f2-0e5f4c086da474abc1df58826577db2f.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/134347/2029/ | 01:50 |
| clarkb | because of the severity stuff and the cdn noise | 01:50 |
| notmyname | clarkb: what is cdb? are you referring to hp? | 01:50 |
| clarkb | *cdn | 01:50 |
| clarkb | typo | 01:51 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: ah. the issue is that rackspace doesn't allow public access *except* via the cdn | 01:51 |
| clarkb | yes | 01:51 |
| notmyname | nothing to do with this feature, though. their own auth choice | 01:51 |
| clarkb | sure | 01:51 |
| clarkb | just makes for bad user experience | 01:51 |
| notmyname | when porting across different swifts, yes. when that decision was made, there's weren't differnet swifts (or even swift, actually) | 01:52 |
| clarkb | we dont need cdn everything goes through dfw hosted node anyways | 01:52 |
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| clarkb | and cdn adds dns and container management overhead | 01:53 |
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| jhesketh | nevertheless we have enough to query swift and make index lists | 01:53 |
| jhesketh | thanks notmyname :-) | 01:53 |
| notmyname | jhesketh: happy to help :-) | 01:53 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: what is your opinion on joining the list with anything that might still be on disk? | 01:53 |
| clarkb | jhesketh that seems reasonable | 01:53 |
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| clarkb | we are capped at 64k per dir on disk by ext4 | 01:54 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: might make the apache rules more complicated... | 01:54 |
| jhesketh | actually, it might make them simpler | 01:54 |
| notmyname | if you end up wanting to use auto-listings but on auth'd requests and run into trouble, let me know and I'll tell you how to get around it | 01:54 |
| jhesketh | everything just goes to os-loganalyze who knows how to serve off disk, create indexes or passthrough etc | 01:54 |
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| jhesketh | notmyname: I think auto-listing won't quite work for us, but will do thanks | 01:55 |
| * notmyname gets dinner | 01:55 | |
| clarkb | the other issue with auto listing is we were told half million object per container | 01:55 |
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| clarkb | thats like 4 months. | 01:56 |
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| clarkb | whether or not that is actualy an issue I dunno havent tested it :) | 01:57 |
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| clarkb | oh ya and if you cdn its new name per container iirc | 01:59 |
| clarkb | that was why that was trouble | 01:59 |
| clarkb | so even if we use many containers we need smart proxy thing | 02:00 |
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| clarkb | notmyname if we wanted to do auto indexing without public access how does that work? | 02:08 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: hey, good evening - have you already seen something like this ? http://logs.openstack.org/70/189870/4/check/gate-puppet-ironic-puppet-beaker-rspec-upgrade-dsvm-trusty/b5c7b08/console.html#_2015-08-06_20_10_16_209 | 02:08 |
| clarkb | might be a good way to test performance after a few months of data population | 02:08 |
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| clarkb | you might needmkdir -p | 02:09 |
| tongli | guys, I have created new project repository, how and who can add members to the core team of the project? | 02:09 |
| tongli | so that patch set can be reviewed +1, +2 etc. | 02:09 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: neverming, I found it I guess | 02:09 |
| EmilienM | nevermind* | 02:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins/copy_puppet_logs script: use mkdir -p https://review.openstack.org/210176 | 02:11 |
| EmilienM | maybe can I have a review on ^ | 02:11 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: yes. you can do that | 02:30 |
| notmyname | clarkb: basically, you set it all up the same, but you have to send an additional header to get it to trigger. x-web-mode: true | 02:30 |
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| notmyname | clarkb: normally, it skips over the functionality if there's an auth header | 02:30 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: if you can approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210097 - thanks a lot | 02:43 |
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| anteaya | EmilienM: sorry I tried to look at the patch but I see ianw already self approved | 03:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: scripts/copy_puppet_logs: Create LOG_DIR https://review.openstack.org/210097 | 03:18 |
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| Ng | mordred: https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/code-review-malediction/48090 | 07:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add openstack-infra/puppet-infra-cookiecutter project https://review.openstack.org/207109 | 08:45 |
| odyssey4me | morning everyone - we have a rather odd situation where some of our reviews appear to be ignored by zuul entirely, we can rebase, change something, change the workflow, etc and it never shows up in the check queue and never merges | 08:52 |
| odyssey4me | I suspect that one of our rules are to blame as this is only happening to our doc changes. An example is https://review.openstack.org/207700 | 08:52 |
| odyssey4me | if anyone's around, perhaps I could get some help tracking the issue down? | 08:53 |
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| odyssey4me | nvm, I think I found it | 08:57 |
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| mescanef | hi! regarding gerrit ACLS, to be able to delete a "remote" branch what would be required. i guess its about access "refs/heads/*" | 09:06 |
| ekarlso | What's the appropriate way to alter tempest.conf if we need to in the gate ? | 09:06 |
| ekarlso | s/gate/devstack | 09:06 |
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| tsufiev | hello guys! Could anyone advice me what's wrong here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209108/ with grenade job/Tempest failure? | 10:02 |
| tsufiev | seems totally unrelated to the patch contents to me | 10:02 |
| tsufiev | or just recheck until it agrees that the patch is fine :)? | 10:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adds onlyIfSuccessful to ArtifactArchiver publisher https://review.openstack.org/203730 | 10:18 |
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| AJaeger | fungi, once you've had your coffee, could you check why https://review.openstack.org/207700 is beiing ignored? Other changes for that repo seem to run fine, but even a recheck did not help at all. See above for odyssey4me's request as well. | 12:25 |
| EmilienM | good morning infra | 12:26 |
| odyssey4me | thanks AJaeger it is weird that it (and any other document changes) are being ignored | 12:26 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: any docu changes? Let me check something... | 12:27 |
| odyssey4me | AJaeger do you think it may have something to do with the regex for the skip? or perhaps something to do with a change in the way skip is implemented? | 12:27 |
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| AJaeger | odyssey4me: see http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n1593 | 12:28 |
| AJaeger | something strange is happening here for sure... | 12:28 |
| AJaeger | Ah, might be that this skips *all* your tests - and then there's not a job to run. | 12:28 |
| odyssey4me | AJaeger yeah, we have a regex for skipping the build checks when it's a document related review so that docs don't have to go through the lint or build checks | 12:29 |
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| AJaeger | odyssey4me: I think - but need clarkb, jeblair, or fungi to confirm - that this leads to a situation where the change has *no* job to run for it. | 12:29 |
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| AJaeger | The fix might be to just add a noop test for it, so that you have a single test that zuul can give a +1 on. | 12:29 |
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| AJaeger | so, adding " - name: noop-jobs" to the templates - together with a comment why this is needed - is my best guess on fixing it. | 12:30 |
| AJaeger | but I'd like to hear what others think that know zuul better than me. | 12:31 |
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| odyssey4me | AJaeger that makes sense - this used to work, but I think the underlying changes in -infra have closed a loophole which we were obviously using | 12:32 |
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| odyssey4me | AJaeger so you mean add ' - name: noop-jobs' to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n7544 ? | 12:35 |
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| AJaeger | odyssey4me: yes - together with a comment stating that the other jobs are skipped... | 12:36 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, let me put in a review for that - or should I add it to the existing review? | 12:36 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: might also be some kind of bug - that's why I want jeblair, clarkb, or fungi to look at this. | 12:36 |
| odyssey4me | ok, I'll wait for them to come online before doing anything | 12:37 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: feel free to send the change so that we can review it already... | 12:37 |
| odyssey4me | AJaeger part of the same review ok? | 12:38 |
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| tongli | @AJaeger, good morning, | 12:39 |
| tongli | after the new project created, what do I need to do to add +2 viewers? | 12:40 |
| tongli | well +1 and +2 viewers actually. | 12:40 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: make a new one | 12:40 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: the rename is just cosmetics AFAIU | 12:41 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: Thanks for the review! | 12:41 |
| AJaeger | tongli: You need to have one person added to the ACL group and that person than can add further folks. | 12:41 |
| AJaeger | Those are the core reviewers | 12:41 |
| AJaeger | For +1: No need to add anyone, reviewing is open for everybody | 12:41 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: You're welcome, I liked the presentation... | 12:42 |
| tongli | @Ajaeger, right, so who should I ask to add myself to the ACL group, I created the new project. | 12:42 |
| AJaeger | tongli: ask here for an infra root - best wait another hour | 12:42 |
| * AJaeger is not an infra root | 12:42 | |
| StevenK | AJaeger: Makes me feel better about giving it now that someone who knows the material doesn't start with "So, um ..." :-) | 12:42 |
| tongli | or, this patch set does it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210175/ | 12:43 |
| AJaeger | tongli: or leave a comment with all details (project and your name/email) - some infra roots normally read the backscroll and will answer | 12:43 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: ;) | 12:43 |
| tongli | @AJaeger, cool. thanks. I thought I had to do that patch set. | 12:43 |
| AJaeger | tongli: The ACLs are created empty once the project-config change is in | 12:44 |
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| tongli | @AJaeger, excellent, you are very helpful as always, thanks so much. | 12:44 |
| markus_z | dprince: Are you around? | 12:45 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: The only "So, um..." was that the goal of translation was somehow missing - that's why I mentioned the "deliverables" like Manuals, dashboard, etc | 12:45 |
| AJaeger | tongli: you're welcome | 12:45 |
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| dprince | markus_z: yes, whats up? | 12:47 |
| markus_z | dprince: Are you still somewhat familiar with the "reviewday" tool? I'd like to enhance it, so we could sort by type. That would be useful for Nova's bug review day next week. | 12:48 |
| dprince | markus_z: somewhat, most of the sorting is all javascript I think | 12:48 |
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| markus_z | I somehow fail to test this locally and I thought you could give me a hint. | 12:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix os-ansible-deployment doc merging https://review.openstack.org/210379 | 12:49 |
| odyssey4me | AJaeger ^ there you go :) | 12:49 |
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| dprince | markus_z: sounds like a useful feature so ++ | 12:50 |
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| dprince | markus_z: if you pre-install the required dependencies in a venv you should be able to run review day like this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/reviewday/tree/README.md#n32 | 12:50 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: thanks, will review later.... | 12:51 |
| dprince | markus_z: I think we also have a puppet module to configure it for infra (puppet-reviewday) | 12:51 |
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| tsufiev | hey, guys! have you heard about some problems with grenade job (for Horizon stable/kilo commits)? | 12:51 |
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| markus_z | dprince: I have the "out_report" folder. The "index.html" should then be able to show all items, right? Or do I have to set up a http server? | 12:52 |
| markus_z | dprince: I tried "python -m SimpleHTTPServer" but all tables were empty. | 12:53 |
| dprince | markus_z: when testing locally I usually edit the project list (in the python) to make report generation faster | 12:53 |
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| dprince | markus_z: but once it generates the HTML report you shouldn't need a server to view it | 12:53 |
| dprince | markus_z: file:// would work fine too | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Rename os-ansible-deployment gate checks to conform to new style https://review.openstack.org/210265 | 12:54 |
| markus_z | dprince: OK, then I'm still doing something wrong, odd. | 12:54 |
| markus_z | dprince: OK, I just wanted to double-check if I'm missing something. I'll push a change in the next view hours, would be great if you could have a look at it. | 12:55 |
| markus_z | "view"="few" ... | 12:55 |
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| dprince | markus_z: cool, will try to have a look, thanks | 12:55 |
| markus_z | dprince: thanks! | 12:56 |
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| witek | hello | 13:30 |
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| witek | could you please add me (witek, witold.bedyk@est.fujitsu.com) to the new groups monasca-log-core and monasca-log-release? | 13:32 |
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| mriedem | question about reqs changes - g-r min version doesn't need to match what's in upper-constraints right? | 13:51 |
| mriedem | i.e. we need at least oslo.versionedobjects>=0.6.0, but the latest is 0.7.0 | 13:51 |
| mriedem | and that's what's been tested with i think | 13:51 |
| mriedem | well, i guess upper-constraints has ovo==0.6.0 right now | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Raise minimum required oslo.versionedobjects>=0.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/210445 | 13:54 |
| mriedem | dims_: sdague: ^ | 13:54 |
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| mriedem | "upper-constraints.txt is machine generated and nothing more or less than an exact list of versions." | 13:57 |
| mriedem | is that still true? seems it was originally machine generated but now it's changed by humans | 13:58 |
| mriedem | possibly cyborgs | 13:58 |
| sdague | dims_: is there a pbr version bump in the works for requirements? | 13:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/requirements: Raise minimum required oslo.versionedobjects>=0.6.0 https://review.openstack.org/210445 | 14:00 |
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| dims_ | sdague: lifeless was working that | 14:02 |
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| dims_ | let me check | 14:02 |
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| AJaeger | mordred: are you fine with documenting shade for end-users? See https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203796/ | 14:07 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair: clarkb: could really use your help / thoughts about getting a module sync process in place for openstack/puppet-* modules. Here is what the team wants to do today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189216/ | 14:11 |
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| pabelanger | however, -infra has expressed concerns already about automating this process. | 14:11 |
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| fungi | odyssey4me: AJaeger: it looks like your skip clause in layout.yaml skips all your check/gate jobs for changes to your documentation, which means they'll never be enqueued | 14:17 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: you need at least one job which will run. perhaps a docs job? | 14:18 |
| AJaeger | fungi: so, adding noops is the right fix as done in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210379/ ? | 14:18 |
| AJaeger | fungi: yeah, adding a doc jobs that builds it would be better... | 14:18 |
| AJaeger | good morning, fungi! | 14:18 |
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| fungi | AJaeger: i think projects are only supposed to have noop as a check/gate job if they have no other jobs for those pipelines, otherwise they end up potentially influencing a shared queue for all projects with the noop job | 14:19 |
| fungi | jeblair: ^ do you recall? | 14:19 |
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| fungi | i know that was a concern back when the noop job was a real job, but not sure if it's still an issue now that it's only a pseudojob | 14:20 |
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| jeblair | yep, it's an issue | 14:20 |
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| fungi | so anyway, the short term fix is to drop some/all of the skip, better fix is to get a documentation check/gate job | 14:21 |
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| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 14:22 |
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| AJaeger | thanks for the explanation... odyssey4me, are you still around? | 14:22 |
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| odyssey4me | AJaeger yes | 14:23 |
| odyssey4me | fungi AJaeger right, so is it possible to select a job based on some sort of regex criteria - ie instead of skipping, rather choose a docs job? | 14:24 |
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| AJaeger | odyssey4me: add a docs job (either to build the documentation or to run "doc8") and run it always | 14:25 |
| tongli | can anyone help adding me to the ACL of a new project I created? | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Deprecate the deploy-ironic element https://review.openstack.org/209079 | 14:26 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: Do you in fact have a screenshot or something of Horizon in another language? From what I can see, it's a config option, not something a user can just set LANG for :-/ | 14:26 |
| AJaeger | StevenK: you can set it yourself | 14:26 |
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| StevenK | That's unfortunate, HP Cloud only has 3 kinds of English | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | Got to http://DASHBOARD/settings/ | 14:27 |
| odyssey4me | AJaeger ah ok, so to confirm - is it possible to set specific jobs to get skipped based on specific criteria? | 14:27 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: the same way you do already today | 14:29 |
| AJaeger | but I would not optimize to much - like you already did ;) | 14:29 |
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| AJaeger | StevenK: right now I can only send you a SUSE branded screenshot, do you want to have it? | 14:32 |
| StevenK | AJaeger: Sounds perfectly fine | 14:32 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: I'll attribute the source and so on | 14:33 |
| AJaeger | Let me send you what I have and you can decide - otherwise you know where to change it... | 14:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins/copy-puppet-logs: run the publisher all the time https://review.openstack.org/210472 | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed openstack/requirements: Bump the minimum version of XStatic-JQuery.TableSorter https://review.openstack.org/210474 | 14:34 |
| fungi | StevenK: alternative is that you should be able to set it in a devstack, point your browser at it and take whatever screen captures you want | 14:34 |
| tongli | Hi, guys, I have created a new project named openstack/kiloeyes which is a cloud monitoring project. | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | anyone from infra-core can have a look at a small change for puppet jobs ? https://review.openstack.org/210472 (it's about running copy logs publisher whatever job status) | 14:35 |
| tongli | now I need someone to help me adding +2 users so that we can start accepting patch set. | 14:35 |
| tongli | can anyone help point me to the right direction what I have to do to add myself (since I created the project) to the +2 user group? | 14:35 |
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| StevenK | fungi: I don't have a running devstack, but I'm probably going to have to do so for at least server translations | 14:36 |
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| StevenK | AJaeger: Those screenshots look marvellous, thanks | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Markus Zoeller (markus_z) proposed openstack-infra/reviewday: Make the review list sortable by review type https://review.openstack.org/210481 | 14:43 |
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| markus_z | dprince: ^ | 14:45 |
| mrmartin | fungi: morning, this is the askbot-theme merge patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210373/ please review if you have a few minutes | 14:45 |
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| odyssey4me | AJaeger so I see that os-ansible-deployment is in the section 'OpenStack infrastructure projects' which isn't right, I don't think - should it be in 'Other OpenStack Projects' perhaps, along with chef, puppet, etc? | 14:48 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: yeah, would be nicer... | 14:50 |
| odyssey4me | ok AJaeger I'll do another cosmetic review to move the stuff around after adding the docs job | 14:50 |
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| AJaeger | EmilienM: +2a | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | AJaeger: thanks | 14:52 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: thanks | 14:52 |
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| timrc | I'm building an app that uses the upstream Gerrit event stream? Is there a formalized process for getting permission to do that or am I simply able to open the ssh connection and go? | 14:55 |
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| timrc | Hm that first question mark should be a period... though sometimes I wonder :) | 14:55 |
| timrc | Assuming eventually I'd need a third-party account (for the ssh key) if this service launches, but until then... | 14:56 |
| nibalizer | possible to use your personal key? | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/askbot-theme: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/feature/development' into merge-branch https://review.openstack.org/210373 | 14:59 |
| fungi | mrmartin: lgtm, approved | 14:59 |
| timrc | nibalizer, For now yeah, I'd use my personal key. I just want to make sure it's okay for me to consume those events. | 15:00 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: diff between that change and the feature branch was just the defaultbranch parameter in .gitreview, so perfect! | 15:00 |
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| nibalizer | timrc: ya it is | 15:02 |
| mrmartin | fungi: yeah, it was a bit strange for me this single file showed up there, but then I realized, that the parent refs describes the merge. | 15:02 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: right, gerrit's webui does odd things with merge commits | 15:03 |
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| fungi | they start to look really strange when there are merge conflicts resolved in the commit | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Ensure creation of jeepyb cache dir https://review.openstack.org/210491 | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: jenkins/copy-puppet-logs: run the publisher all the time https://review.openstack.org/210472 | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Spencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Log which repo zuul references are created on https://review.openstack.org/210119 | 15:11 |
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| zaro | morning | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Fix issues in migration 1ff737bef438 https://review.openstack.org/210166 | 15:14 |
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| fungi | tongli: i've added you as the initial member of https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1027,members so you should now be able to add any other users you need to that group | 15:16 |
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| tongli | @fungi, thanks so much Jeremy for the blessing. | 15:17 |
| fungi | tongli: you're welcome! | 15:17 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: hrm http://logs.openstack.org/80/208780/1/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool-nv/23f42d5/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-08-04_04_04_21_114 | 15:23 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: thats for adding gearman to the nodepool devstack job | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove icehouse building for training-guides https://review.openstack.org/209776 | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs check to os-ansible-deployment https://review.openstack.org/210498 | 15:30 |
| AJaeger | fungi: thansk for approving the training-guides icehouse cleanup. Could you also close the branch, please? I send an email to the list already... | 15:31 |
| fungi | AJaeger: i already did. just mailed out the reply | 15:31 |
| AJaeger | fungi: Ah! Thanks! | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs check to os-ansible-deployment https://review.openstack.org/210498 | 15:32 |
| odyssey4me | AJaeger ^ that's the addition of the docs check to os-ansible-deployment | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Austin Clark proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Update API docs to include alternative db layer initialization https://review.openstack.org/209960 | 15:34 |
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| fungi | rax has finally deleted the 72 instances we had stuck pending deletion in iad, so now we're down to just four in dfw i'm trying to get them to clean up | 15:35 |
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| greghaynes | \O/ | 15:35 |
| AJaeger | odyssey4me: see my comments... | 15:36 |
| greghaynes | \O/ | 15:36 |
| greghaynes | er, oops | 15:37 |
| greghaynes | theres an echo in here | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Don't run any tests on puppet-dashboard https://review.openstack.org/209740 | 15:37 |
| AJaeger | greghaynes: how do you trigger the echo? ;) | 15:38 |
| greghaynes | by restricting coffee intake | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/askbot-theme: Standalone maintenance page for ask.o.o migration https://review.openstack.org/210073 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Define local gerrit replication and cronjob only once https://review.openstack.org/210502 | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Supply a default query on search https://review.openstack.org/198175 | 15:39 |
| fungi | pabelanger: can you reply to nibalizer and yolanda on 205696 when you have a moment? i assume we're safe to approve that one as well now? | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Redisplay after spawning browser https://review.openstack.org/203041 | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gertty: Support '-' as negation operator in query https://review.openstack.org/207240 | 15:40 |
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| * AJaeger wishes everybody a great weekend... | 15:40 | |
| Clint | woot | 15:40 |
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| greghaynes | TheJulia: Just hit http://paste.ubuntu.com/12021804/ on node I booted with bifrost | 15:42 |
| mtreinish | fungi, clarkb, jeblair: if you get a sec could you take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/210166 the subunit2sql db is part way through a migration which blew up and that should unstick it | 15:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs check to os-ansible-deployment https://review.openstack.org/210498 | 15:43 |
| TheJulia | greghaynes: ouch... | 15:44 |
| greghaynes | TheJulia: Ah, its because my ssh keys file has newlines in it beacause there are multiple keys | 15:44 |
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| TheJulia | greghaynes: ahhhh | 15:44 |
| greghaynes | not sure how we want to deal with that... is there a sane way? | 15:45 |
| pabelanger | fungi: commented. It should be save to land, we've removed all references to the puppet-apache | 15:45 |
| greghaynes | I wonder if we should be urlencode/decoding that data... | 15:45 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: +2 | 15:46 |
| greghaynes | TheJulia: yea, looks like we should. Ill whip up a patch | 15:47 |
| TheJulia | Hmm... ok | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | greghaynes: sorry, brain occupied on a call at the moment | 15:48 |
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| greghaynes | heh, np :) | 15:48 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: cool, thanks. I'll +A it and then push a release | 15:49 |
| mtreinish | that should hopefully automagically fix things and finish applying the migration | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Ensure anvil-job has newest six library upgraded https://review.openstack.org/210507 | 15:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | ianw, if u get a chance ^ | 15:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | seems needed, borks python-cryptograph rpmbuilding if not done :-/ | 15:56 |
| harlowja_at_home | * see https://bugs.launchpad.net/anvil/+bug/1482696 | 15:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482696 in anvil "Gate 2.7 six is really way to old" [Undecided,New] | 15:57 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: may I ask you to check on the new ask.o.o site whether the /srv/askbot-site/themes is matching the latest HEAD of openstack-infra/askbot-theme master branch? the commit hash is: 23cce7d1c49d76a0fe47e790eafea699b5e00932 | 16:09 |
| mrmartin | the site skin is still broken, I didn't get why | 16:10 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: /srv/askbot-sites/slot0/themes is at f9f4bfa085b8c4b9fbf6c71766f7042793de12b9 | 16:11 |
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| jeblair | mrmartin: ^ | 16:11 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: sorry | 16:11 |
| mrmartin | jeblair: it is the old site | 16:12 |
| fungi | mrmartin: it won't get automatic puppet updates until we do the switch. until then i have to pull manually | 16:12 |
| fungi | doing that now | 16:12 |
| mrmartin | fungi: oh ok, thnx. | 16:12 |
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| mrmartin | jeblair: we have a production ask.o.o site, and new one under construction, based on trusty | 16:12 |
| jeblair | what switch? | 16:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, puppet agent is disabled on ask.o.o pending migration to the replacement | 16:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/askbot-trusty-migration | 16:12 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: nothing to apologize for, I learned something new. Not sure what I'll do with that info though :) | 16:13 |
| fungi | as of a couple days ago so that we could merge the updates without breaking the old production server | 16:13 |
| jeblair | fungi: ah, somehow i missed this was happening. | 16:13 |
| mrmartin | fungi: anyway if this skin update works, I suggest to do the switch on next Monday or Tuesday | 16:13 |
| fungi | jeblair: yeah, new askbot version requires a lockstep upgrade to trusty | 16:14 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: sounds good. i'll write up the announcement as soon as we're sure | 16:14 |
| fungi | mrmartin: pulled the update now | 16:14 |
| mrmartin | ok, it looks better now | 16:14 |
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| mrmartin | fungi: would you like a test backup / recovery before a final switch? | 16:15 |
| mrmartin | like / like to do | 16:15 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: can do, but won't be able to get to it for about an hour, then i'll give it a shot | 16:18 |
| mrmartin | ok, we are not in hurry | 16:18 |
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| mrmartin | the etherpad.o.o is a bit bugy, sometimes previously added content simply disappears... | 16:20 |
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| pc_m | Hi! can I get a second infra core to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209887/ ? This adds gate-hook.sh to neutronclient, so that VPN devstack plugin can be enabled in the python-neutronclient (via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210021/) | 16:28 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: ok, hit https://review.openstack.org/210505 when deploying to nodes, rebuilding an image without all my debug stuff in it, if it works going to redeploy the world again | 16:43 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: You should also have keys on the nodes too since we can now do more than one key | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Support ability to install plugins https://review.openstack.org/210529 | 16:48 |
| mtreinish | fungi: can I bug you again to see if subunit2sql-db-manage is running again on logstash.o.o? | 16:49 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: root 1222 0.0 1.7 185168 35268 ? S 16:19 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/bin/subunit2sql-db-manage --config-file /etc/subunit2sql.conf upgrade head | 16:51 |
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| fungi | morganfainberg_: this keystone commit has three authors https://review.openstack.org/198924 and the two in those co-authored-by lines are seeking discount codes for the tokyo summit. i'm going to have them ask you to add them to http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/extra-atcs but, um, it's entirely up to you as to whether you want to do that ;) | 16:51 |
| mtreinish | ok, that's a good sign, it didn't crash immediately :) | 16:51 |
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| mtreinish | hopefully that means its doing its thing with bug fixed migration now | 16:52 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: so what's up with the neutron multinode full being so freaking long to run - https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full/73/consoleFull ? | 16:53 |
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| sdague | there are a lot of > 60 second tests in there | 16:53 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: hmm, dunno yeah it's been running for an ~ 1 hr so far | 16:54 |
| mtreinish | it looks like neutron api is being sluggish | 16:55 |
| mtreinish | like list tests are taking seconds, I think that's pretty slow | 16:55 |
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| sdague | ok, so I feel like this can't be in the check queue non voting with it's current run time | 16:56 |
| sdague | this is basically adding 30 minutes turn around to all nova patches | 16:56 |
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| mtreinish | yeah, checking the db a lot of neutron tests are quite a bit slower then the avg. Are the multinode runs consistently this slow? | 16:57 |
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| clarkb | nova net is same time | 16:58 |
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| clarkb | and I thought neutron was in same range too | 16:59 |
| clarkb | we should look at sample >1 | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/project-config: move neutron-multinode-full to experimental for nova https://review.openstack.org/210530 | 16:59 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah I agree, 1 run in isolation isn't really indicative of anything | 17:00 |
| clarkb | ya its same range as single node ~1hour | 17:00 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: in theory the shift to PyMySQL may have a severe impact on test run resource usage... more CPU use, less waiting in line doing nothing.. could cause "sluggishness" that wasn't present before. | 17:00 |
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| SpamapS | IIRC Neutron finally switched its default right? | 17:01 |
| clarkb | so not a multinode issue imo | 17:01 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194454 and everything below it, it's about 10 minutes slower than average | 17:01 |
| clarkb | SpamapS we switched a while back and checked times on that too | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | it was equivalent | 17:01 |
| sdague | yeh, mysql was never getting hit very hard | 17:02 |
| sdague | it's all noise at these load levels | 17:02 |
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| SpamapS | hm is it? What's holding the test back with such tiny datasets if not CPU? | 17:02 |
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| sdague | we boot real machines | 17:03 |
| clarkb | cpu in nova/qemu/nrutron | 17:03 |
| clarkb | not mysql | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | Though IIRC, the nodes we have come with CPU to spare right? | 17:03 |
| clarkb | no cpu to spare | 17:03 |
| sdague | SpamapS: you can look at the dstat | 17:03 |
| SpamapS | oh I thought we got too many CPU's because we needed moar RAM | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | SpamapS: http://logs.openstack.org/80/210480/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full/a4d2a7d//logs/screen-dstat.txt.gz | 17:03 |
| sdague | SpamapS: no, the opposite | 17:03 |
| clarkb | no too much ram because hpcloud cpus are almost useless | 17:04 |
| SpamapS | ahh right that problem again :( | 17:04 |
| clarkb | sdague anyways single node is slow too so not multinodes fault | 17:04 |
| sdague | clarkb: multinode adds another 15 minutes on it | 17:05 |
| clarkb | no it doesnt | 17:05 |
| sdague | I feel like we need to diet these things before we just pile them on | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Move os-ansible-deployment to the right section https://review.openstack.org/210537 | 17:05 |
| clarkb | I am looking at jenkins reported times its 1hour to 1 hour 10 minutes for single and multinode | 17:05 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: networking question for these baremetal nodes. should we be giving them 15.x addresses? | 17:05 |
| clarkb | https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/10247/ | 17:05 |
| clarkb | 1 hour 9 minutes | 17:06 |
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| SpamapS | ah I see, idle only drops below 30% when the qemu is running | 17:06 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yes | 17:06 |
| sdague | ok, well they both need to go on a diet then for the nova case | 17:06 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Do we have it documented how we want to partition that up? | 17:06 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: I believe we'll have to do the trick where we pop up vlan25, bridge it, put the 15.x on that bridge, and then attach neutron l2 to that bridge as well. | 17:07 |
| clarkb | https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full/62/ 58 minutes | 17:07 |
| greghaynes | I think now is a good time to Do It Right(TM) from this bm host | 17:07 |
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| clarkb | its all in the same cloud variance | 17:07 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: gotcha | 17:07 |
| sdague | ok, well I'd like there not to be 2 that are in that variance, because it does make it worse | 17:08 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yea, that makes sense, I can go over 10net and try and set that up | 17:08 |
| sdague | and these jobs need to be slimmer and more targetted | 17:08 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: so I think what we'll have to do is make the first /25 the cloud/controllers, and then all of the rest are for vms. | 17:08 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: the fact that we may have to interrupt 15.x traffic makes me think we may want to try and bake the config into the image. | 17:09 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: hrm http://logs.openstack.org/80/208780/1/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool-nv/23f42d5/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-08-04_04_04_21_114 | 17:10 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: (re nodepool patches passing) | 17:10 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: otherwise in bootstrapping it we'll break ansible or launch node or whatever. | 17:10 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: hrm, I do like the 10net over untagged, were going to stop using that? | 17:11 |
| clarkb | greghaynes I can look into that | 17:11 |
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| SpamapS | greghaynes: we can keep using it, but people may not like that you have to launch nodes from a box on that network. | 17:11 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: What about doing the vlan info in config drive | 17:12 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: and this really is quite simple I think.. we can probably get a bridge + vlan25 setup in /etc/network/interfaces. | 17:12 |
| greghaynes | Is that a lot of work? | 17:12 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yes that is a lot of work. :-/ | 17:12 |
| greghaynes | aye, ok | 17:12 |
| SpamapS | there was a lot of rage about even suggesting it's a good idea to have it available there. | 17:12 |
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| greghaynes | oh right, that | 17:12 |
| clarkb | sdague can we direct this at neutron. they are the only group that can actually fix. we can tweak jobs but thats just a bandaid if neutron adds 10-20 minutes per cycle | 17:12 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: ok, so what about just using dhcp | 17:13 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: but we might want to write down our thoughts on it, because I have this crazy idea that one day we can use 802.1QinQ to do tenant isolation... and then having vlan info in config drive would be sweet. | 17:13 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: we cant dhcp because we need vlan to get configed, ugh | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Change many uses of repository to project https://review.openstack.org/210540 | 17:14 |
| jeblair | fungi: fyi ^ | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: we can dhcp if we reach in through 10net to do it. | 17:14 |
| sdague | clarkb: sure, but I'd like to get things rolled back so we're not holding things up, and just make that part of adding these things back in. Because, if we leave them on, they'll never get improved. | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: also we could write a 'dhcp-all-vlantags' ... | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | noooooooooooooooooooooooo | 17:14 |
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| greghaynes | SpamapS: Hrm, is your bake in e/n/i config that we bake in a vlan25 interface that dhcps? | 17:15 |
| clarkb | sdague my point is this is not a regression brought on by these jobs | 17:15 |
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| sdague | clarkb: right, I get that | 17:15 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: yeah we could bake that in for sure. | 17:15 |
| clarkb | we can roll them back or not but that doesnt change anything | 17:15 |
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| clarkb | because the existing single node tests are just as bad | 17:15 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: I kind of like that idea... | 17:16 |
| sdague | however, I think we need to set some boundaries on adding jobs in terms of their trade offs of time run vs. real coverage | 17:16 |
| fungi | jeblair: general thumbs-up, but reviewing | 17:16 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: and when we do bake in vlans, we tag it with a comment to the spec for vlan info in config drive so we know where to put our rage. | 17:16 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: haha, yes | 17:16 |
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| clarkb | sdague we get massive real coverage fron these fwiw | 17:16 |
| clarkb | particularly for networking | 17:16 |
| sdague | I disagree for nova changes | 17:17 |
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| clarkb | did you knoe nova net dhcp is broekn? | 17:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'm writing a readme change to try to document my thinking and get a nexus on what we think these words mean in the manual :) | 17:17 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: interesting.. VoIP phones have commandered option 129 of DHCP to set VLAN | 17:17 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yea, I saw some stuff when googling, seems like its also a common thing for windows | 17:17 |
| SpamapS | 129 PXE - undefined (vendor specific) <-- RFC does not define it | 17:17 |
| fungi | jeblair: awesome! that was going to be my first note on the change in fact... asking to have the manual clarify that we do have specific definitions for these terms and aren't just being lazily inconsistent | 17:18 |
| sdague | clarkb: which is irrelevant to the multinode neutron job | 17:18 |
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| clarkb | sdague yes its a specific example | 17:19 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: because honestly.. having the untagged net say "hey whats my vlan?" and a server that knows and answers that... I kind of like it. But the spec seems loose. | 17:19 |
| clarkb | we find real bugs in nova and neutron doig this | 17:19 |
| clarkb | and there is no additional overhead in time | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | its not a regression of the tests themselves | 17:19 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: so yeah, build it in, and add our weight to the config drive spec. | 17:19 |
| sdague | clarkb: ok, so you are telling me I have no voice in what runs on the Nova project | 17:19 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: let me see if I can work up a patch to the docs about this. | 17:20 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: Yep, I dont want to spin on this too much, I mostly just want to get the network layed out somewhat saneish since changing that later will mean changing everything. We can iterate on how we specify that info later without a huge disruption though | 17:20 |
| clarkb | no I am trying to explqin pulling that job out doesnt fix neutron and doesnt make your jobs report faster | 17:20 |
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| clarkb | if you want to stop running the test thats fine I just dont see it as prodyctive | 17:20 |
| sdague | it does, because it's the longest job, and it has a variance | 17:20 |
| clarkb | the normal neutron job is the same... | 17:20 |
| clarkb | which we arent removing right? | 17:21 |
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| sdague | sure, but if you have 1 thing with a variance bell curve of 1hr 10 minutes +/- 15 minutes | 17:21 |
| sdague | then your average return time is different | 17:21 |
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| sdague | then if you have 2 of them | 17:21 |
| sdague | that's how statistics works | 17:22 |
| sdague | so it is a real impact | 17:22 |
| clarkb | (and this job only affects check not gate) | 17:22 |
| sdague | yes | 17:22 |
| clarkb | so productive work imo would be taking this to neutron and getting them to fix | 17:22 |
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| sdague | and that's fine, but I want this off the check queue first | 17:23 |
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| sdague | because 0 people are looking at these failures if they happen anyway | 17:24 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: I think it would be appropriate to keep the TripleO CD spreadsheet up to date, but we will definitely want to add our IP allocation stuff to system-config somewhere. | 17:24 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: and make that the source of truth. | 17:24 |
| sdague | tests that fail with no one debugging them, are completely pointless | 17:24 |
| clarkb | I am trying to look at them and file bugs | 17:24 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: SGTM | 17:24 |
| clarkb | which is how we know nova net has broken dhcp | 17:24 |
| sdague | we have 1000 open bugs | 17:24 |
| sdague | so unless they are also generating patches, they aren't really helping right now | 17:25 |
| clarkb | ok | 17:25 |
| sdague | which isn't the place I want to be in, but it's where we are | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add terminology notes to README https://review.openstack.org/210545 | 17:25 |
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| SpamapS | sdague: _OW_. Curious.. is nova graphing the bug counts anywhere at the moment? It sometimes helps people feel good about small bug fixes to change the picture visibly, even if only slightly. | 17:26 |
| sdague | and, because of timing variance and delays in the check queue, we've used 20 - 40% of a bunch of nova cores this week to land dead simple refactoring changes | 17:26 |
| sdague | so right now, anything that slows that down, means less time to address bugs | 17:27 |
| jesusaurus | i have a jjb question: can the jobs section of a job-group refer to another job-group? or can it only refer to either a job or job-template? | 17:27 |
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| sdague | SpamapS: http://status.openstack.org//bugday/ | 17:27 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus I think its not recursive expansion | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | the template "engine" is very simple | 17:27 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: sdague: we should throw that into graphite and make a grafana dashboard for it | 17:28 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: hm, alright | 17:28 |
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| sdague | jeblair: yep, that would be a thing. I'd be happy if someone did that work :) | 17:28 |
| SpamapS | sdague: so flat.. :( | 17:28 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so, I have a trusty question about what an "LTS" release actually means. If I find a package that is no longer supported by the company that publishes it, can I file a ticket against, say, Trusty, and ask them to upgrade it? | 17:28 |
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| SpamapS | sdague: OH! thats 24hours? | 17:29 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS: yeah, that's why graphite would be useful. actually change the time scale. ;) | 17:29 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: the LP api is pretty strong there.. I assume thats what bugday is querying. | 17:29 |
| sdague | SpamapS: so, there are so many ways things to address. And if every attempt at a 1% improvement is "oh, you should do this other thing instead" we mostly go in circles | 17:29 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: yeah, so we should cron it so we run that LP query every <timeperiod> and emit the values as guages to graphite. | 17:30 |
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| SpamapS | sdague: yeah, too many voices sometimes. | 17:30 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: I like that idea. :) | 17:30 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: are there already other places that run periodic injections into graphite that I could use as a crib sheet? | 17:31 |
| * SpamapS says that while infra-cloud's infinite void is staring him in the face | 17:31 | |
| sdague | SpamapS: if you do it, a request is that it also gets run pivotted by tags | 17:31 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: I've reached out to npm, and they've come back with the --ignore-scripts commandline option that landed in v1.3.18. Trusty's version is 1.3.10 (which according to npm is no longer supported, so I should probably go fill out a LTS ticket somewhere). I can use npm to update itself, though I suspect switching to a not-default-to-distro version might make some people mad. Any ideas? | 17:31 |
| sdague | because for a project like nova the whole bug list is too overwhelming, but by tag, it might be burn downable | 17:31 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: i don't think so; though i think the script that produces _those_ files is already a cron. so basically, one could probably just add a few lines like "import statsd; statsd.guage(...)" to that... | 17:32 |
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| SpamapS | sdague: oh yeah that would be nice. | 17:33 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: if we need to do that, we can consider having puppet perform an npm upgrade on the release slave. | 17:33 |
| pelix | zaro: if you get a chance would be good to have another set of eyeballs on my review comment for https://review.openstack.org/173932 | 17:33 |
| jeblair | SpamapS, sdague: that will work well with graphite too ('bug.count.nova.tag.FOO') | 17:34 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Oh good, I was hoping we could do that. It'd be release-slave specific :). | 17:34 |
| krotscheck | Let me make sure that that does what we think it does. | 17:34 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: yeah. let's also make sure clarkb and fungi don't scream. :) | 17:34 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: I'll keep them preoccupied with good beer :D | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: k, I see the bugdaystats repo.. poking at it | 17:35 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: essentially we want software on there to be security supported; so either the thing in ubuntu (where we generally assume that we'll get important updates via ubuntu, even if that means patching a non-upstream-supported version), or if we do something ourselves, we want to make sure that we're installing something from a channel that will get security updates. | 17:35 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: "have puppet use npm to continuously upgrade itself to the latest version" probably qualifies. | 17:36 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Given that the version on trusty is not supported anymore, is there a way for me to ask the ubuntu people to update it as part of their LTS promise? | 17:36 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: the LTS promise isn't "we will always have the latest version", it's more like "we will provide security patches to things in the main distro" | 17:37 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: that may or may not involve a version change. | 17:37 |
| fungi | krotscheck: the distro "supports" the version they packaged. the promise of lts is that you _don't_ get new versions of things when you update, you only get security patches and critical bug fixes | 17:37 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: I guess saying "Hey javascript is insecure you should update it" doesn't count? ;) | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: that does count 100% | 17:38 |
| pabelanger | crinkle: nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209607/ thoughts? | 17:38 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: however, npm is in 'universe' where there is less of a promise of security support. | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: the default method for fixing that though, is patch only security problems. | 17:38 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: SpamapS is far better equipped to elaborate. :) | 17:38 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: if you're able to point to specific security vulnerabilities which were fixed in later versions, then in theory canonical/ubuntu would backport those fixes to the version they're providing | 17:38 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: there's a process, however, for bypassing that default mode when upstream is moving way too fast. | 17:38 |
| fungi | er, yeah what SpamapS just said | 17:39 |
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| pelix | any other core reviewers for JJB about (besides zaro any myself?) have a bunch of reviews there that need a +2 & approved or some reason to block: https://review.openstack.org/179455, https://review.openstack.org/183585, https://review.openstack.org/201510, https://review.openstack.org/133774, https://review.openstack.org/192677, https://review.openstack.org/183488, https://review.openstack.org/206092 | 17:39 |
| SpamapS | Ergo, Firefox, MySQL, etc. | 17:39 |
| krotscheck | SpamapS: Urm, that would be useful. The current version is 2.1.x | 17:39 |
| SpamapS | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions | 17:39 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: despite the micro on there, it includes information on full release exceptions too | 17:39 |
| markstur | clarkb, Thanks for the manila-coverage fix. The coverage reports are now a thing of beauty. | 17:40 |
| krotscheck | SpamapS: Cool, will read and doublecheck. | 17:40 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: also, specifically, if an external service is changed in such a way as to make a package useless, then all bets are off and a new version is happily waved in under the Stable Release Updates process. | 17:40 |
| clarkb | markstur sorry for thr trouble :) | 17:40 |
| SpamapS | so if npm's servers don't answer the old insecure things, then npm will be updated | 17:40 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: that process is closer to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 17:40 |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: is this just npm, or more things? | 17:41 |
| SpamapS | looks like even Debian is failing to keep up | 17:41 |
| SpamapS | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/npm | 17:41 |
| SpamapS | a year old the last upload is</yoda> | 17:42 |
| SpamapS | Clint: ^^ opportunity! | 17:42 |
| SpamapS | oh my, looks like upstream is 3.2.0 | 17:42 |
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| SpamapS | krotscheck: ftr this may end up like pip.. everybody from node will be like "uhhmm, no don't use distro npm" and everybody from distro will be like "never touch my drumset... and never use npm" | 17:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Update creation for stackforge namespace retirement https://review.openstack.org/210553 | 17:45 |
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| Clint | SpamapS: gosh | 17:50 |
| fungi | SpamapS: krotscheck: yeah, distro packages of non-distro package management tools (cpan, pear, et cetera) don't make a lot of sense. it would make more sense for the point of collaboration to be finding a mechanism for users of various distros to bootstrap and update to the latest versions of those tools, and in turn hopefully the authors of those tools don't run roughshod over your | 17:51 |
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| fungi | distro-package-managed files | 17:51 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: btw, this is actually approved for Liberty.. not sure if it's all of what we would need... http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/vlan-aware-vms.html | 17:51 |
| fungi | but having distro packages of those non-distro package managers is sort of a silly situation | 17:52 |
| SpamapS | fungi: pretty much all of those tools use /usr/local or /opt/something ... I've never understood why distros package them really. | 17:52 |
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| fungi | SpamapS: well, pip at least is in an unfortunate situation. and the python community sort of didn't agree with debian's solution for having more than one place to add things to the library path | 17:53 |
| fungi | on red hat i think it's still the case that pip install foo overwrites the files created by the rpm of foo in /usr/whatever | 17:53 |
| fungi | i believe python has finally mostly come around that people want to be able to have distro packages install python modules in /usr/something and then separately be able to pip install or manually insert things into /usr/local/something | 17:54 |
| SpamapS | fungi: eh? I thought pip uses /usr/local | 17:54 |
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| SpamapS | fungi: though IIRC it will rm stuff from /usr/lib now that I'm thinking about it. | 17:55 |
| fungi | yeah, there's a pep i think that describes a mechanism for distros to be able to define alternate module paths. looking it up | 17:56 |
| fungi | but the behavior (at least until fairly recently) was less desirable on rpm-based platforms | 17:57 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: thats a debianism | 17:57 |
| clarkb | SpamapS: on rhel that doesn't happen and it breaks python there | 17:57 |
| SpamapS | ah lovely | 17:58 |
| SpamapS | what a mess | 17:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Stop running neutron multinode against nova https://review.openstack.org/210558 | 17:59 |
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| harlowja | morganfainberg_ yet another fun one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210549/ ;) | 18:00 |
| harlowja | SpamapS u to, since u'll love it, ha | 18:01 |
| Clint | fungi: they totally make sense if what you want is the same level of integration and vetting for all the software you install | 18:01 |
| fungi | Clint: i don't see how. if you install a distro-packaged non-distro package manager, what uses does it have except to install non-distro packages? in which case why have a distro package of that package manager? | 18:02 |
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| fungi | the non-distro packages cease to have the same level of integration and vetting as the distro packages | 18:03 |
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| Clint | fungi: to cater for people who want to install things without caring about the things i care about, and also they tend to do many other things besides install software | 18:04 |
| fungi | i suppose for the "using them to do something other than install software" use case it makes sense | 18:04 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Well, in the case of npm, it can update itself, so no matter what version you start with you can get to the latest version supported on the installed version of node. | 18:05 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: (Re bootstrapping earlier) | 18:05 |
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| Clint | fungi: for example i do all kinds of things with cabal but i only install haskell libraries from .debs | 18:05 |
| fungi | krotscheck: i'm curious how it does that without getting reverted/mangled by the distro package manager | 18:05 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/208367 makes me think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtHE9dCj0O8 | 18:05 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Great question. | 18:05 |
| krotscheck | Lemme see. | 18:05 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: apt-get install npm and you get 1.0 (fictitious example), npm upgrade npm and it updates itself to 2.0. then your distro backports a security fix and your security updates install npm 1.0.backport1 | 18:07 |
| krotscheck | fungi: The upgraded version ends up in /usr/local/bin | 18:07 |
| krotscheck | The package version is in /usr/bin | 18:07 |
| fungi | ahh, so as long as you have /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin in your path, you'll use the self-updated version | 18:07 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: you ok with me pushing a new patchset to your geard chnage? | 18:08 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Yep | 18:08 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: I think I see the issue | 18:08 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: It's a bit weird though. If i upgrade npm, and then do npm --version, it still shows the old version. But if I spawn a new shell, it finds the new one. | 18:08 |
| fungi | krotscheck: yeah, that's your shell caching the path search | 18:09 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Will that be a problem via puppet? | 18:09 |
| krotscheck | Probably not | 18:09 |
| fungi | nah | 18:09 |
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| krotscheck | Alllrightey | 18:09 |
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| krotscheck | Well, it looks like it will only upgrade to 2.13.4, because that's the last version supported by node 0.10.3 | 18:10 |
| krotscheck | But that's recent enough | 18:10 |
| yushiro | sdague, ping | 18:11 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: though one puppet challenge... if the deb and npm package names for npm are the same, you can't ask both the default package provider and npm package provider to install it | 18:11 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Oh. | 18:11 |
| krotscheck | Hrm. | 18:11 |
| krotscheck | Yeah that's a problem. | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Run gearman server for devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/208780 | 18:12 |
| fungi | because puppet thinks that a package name is globally unique across all package providers | 18:12 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ^ I decided you didn't care :P | 18:12 |
| krotscheck | fungi: I guess i'll have to bash it. | 18:12 |
| fungi | krotscheck: also the npm package provider will hopefully know to look in /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin for its executable. may have to examine some ruby to determine whether it does that | 18:13 |
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| fungi | krotscheck: https://github.com/puppet-community/puppet-nodejs/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/package/npm.rb doesn't seem to have any path munging, so might rely on the system default path in the calling environment. not sure | 18:14 |
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| mtreinish | SpamapS, clarkb: \o/ the updated migration worked! Thanks for the help yesterday | 18:15 |
| krotscheck | fungi: I'll throw together a sample module and test it this afternoon. | 18:15 |
| SpamapS | mtreinish: ossum | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: what was the reason for not using default geard port (4730)? | 18:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infra-cloud information about vlans https://review.openstack.org/210565 | 18:19 |
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| krotscheck | fungi: After all, we like publishign things without executing arbitrary code :) | 18:19 |
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| davideag_ | hello, this patch needs one more core reviewer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201285/2 | 18:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infra-cloud information about vlans https://review.openstack.org/210565 | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: ^ totally different.. we actually _can_ use the configdrive format | 18:28 |
| SpamapS | greghaynes: it's approved and everything ;) | 18:28 |
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| SpamapS | just not the "how does nova get this in" | 18:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add new graph type to show run_time variace by metadata https://review.openstack.org/210569 | 18:28 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ^^^ that might be useful for the discussion we were having earlier about variance | 18:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infra-cloud information about vlans https://review.openstack.org/210565 | 18:29 |
| mtreinish | I'm not quite sure though, because it's still trying to generate the graph after 25 min with 1 CPU pegged and eating 7 GB of ram | 18:29 |
| mtreinish | I'll probably have to change the graph type or trim the data set a bit, because it's kinda funny how long it's taking | 18:30 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: maybe limit to the last day? | 18:32 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: oh, yeah that's a good idea. I actually already have the cli flags for that, but I just need to pass them to the db call | 18:33 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: oh, awesome | 18:34 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: oh! | 18:34 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: ok, so just gotta make glean support it | 18:34 |
| greghaynes | well, glean and bifrost | 18:34 |
| * greghaynes will do the glean bit | 18:34 | |
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| yushiro | Hi openstack-infra team :) My patch needs one core reviewer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206019/ Would you please review it? | 18:39 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: no reason for me not using default port, I was on a plane without internet so couldnt look it up | 18:39 |
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| EmilienM | I have a stupid question: how often are updated dvsm images ? I updated a jenkins slave script and it's still the old one executed in my jobs | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Bug fix for obj_to_dict() https://review.openstack.org/210585 | 18:54 |
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| Shrews | SpamapS: mordred: clarkb: ^^^^ easy review for a bad bug | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brandon Leonard proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adds view functionality https://review.openstack.org/206178 | 18:59 |
| fungi | EmilienM: usually daily. how recently did the change merge>? | 18:59 |
| EmilienM | fungi: last night iirc | 18:59 |
| EmilienM | fungi: so it makes sense | 18:59 |
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| fungi | EmilienM: we start image updates at 14:14 utc daily, though they take some hours to complete | 19:00 |
| EmilienM | ok cool, I need to wait then | 19:00 |
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| fungi | chances are if you run now (and if the image updates didn't break) then you should be getting the new version | 19:00 |
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| EmilienM | fungi: that means if I submit an urgent fix on jenkins slave scripts, I need to wait such of time? | 19:00 |
| EmilienM | fungi: why not checkouting the repo? (just wonder) | 19:01 |
| fungi | EmilienM: or else one of our root admins has to manually update all the images | 19:01 |
| fungi | EmilienM: it's an optimization so that every job doesn't also have to clone the project-config repo to be able to run | 19:01 |
| EmilienM | fungi: yeah, I understand well it's optim | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add new graph type to show run_time variace by metadata https://review.openstack.org/210569 | 19:11 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: ^^^ so it turns out that plot type is not useful at all for this. I'll need to find something else | 19:11 |
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| krotscheck | Can we use puppet schedules? | 19:14 |
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| krotscheck | Clinteroni? | 19:15 |
| krotscheck | Whooops, wrong channel | 19:15 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: http://blog.kortar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/scater-test.png super useless | 19:15 |
| mtreinish | thats with 1 day, I guess it wasn't what I really thought it was | 19:16 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: you probably want to sort by time then graph best fit over that | 19:16 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: show how severe the variance is? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | basically visualize the derivative of absolute srather than over time | 19:16 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: i feel like the axes could be more legible | 19:17 |
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| jeblair | i hate to nitpick though | 19:17 |
| jeblair | so i mean, i'm down with your artistic vision | 19:17 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add flavor functional tests https://review.openstack.org/210589 | 19:17 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: haha, yeah that would have been the next step if the data it what it was showing was actually useful | 19:17 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah, that's basically what I do for per test run time it works well for that | 19:18 |
| mtreinish | but I was trying something different | 19:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Setup a private gerrit instance for security reviews https://review.openstack.org/47937 | 19:22 |
| zaro | jeblair: ^ just created a new PS on same change. The previous PS didn't actually require much updates. | 19:22 |
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| jeblair | zaro: awesome! | 19:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/bugdaystats: Prettified all HTML files https://review.openstack.org/98653 | 19:27 |
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| fungi | zaro: great--thanks! | 19:28 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: box and whiskers for attempt 2: http://blog.kortar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/scater-test2.png | 19:29 |
| mtreinish | I just need to figure out how to get it not cut off the job name at the bottom | 19:29 |
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| mtreinish | wow, we have a lot of dsvm tempest job types: http://blog.kortar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/scater-test3.png (that's without filtering to the past 24 hours) | 19:36 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: I really do suck at making the axes legible | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Move local replication directory and repack to module https://review.openstack.org/209954 | 19:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add new graph type to show run_time variace by metadata https://review.openstack.org/210569 | 19:39 |
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| mriedem | this is blocked some CI systems https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209797/ | 19:45 |
| mriedem | *blocking | 19:45 |
| mriedem | for some reason anyway, not totally sure why | 19:46 |
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| fungi | mriedem: some of them try to reuse devstack environments | 19:49 |
| mriedem | oh that's fun | 19:49 |
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| fungi | and won't upgrade dependencies unless the packages depending on them declare the previously installed version incompatible | 19:50 |
| mriedem | ok, well at least in this case they all found a valid bug | 19:50 |
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| fungi | yep! | 19:51 |
| Swanson | grenade having issues on kilo? Getting a the main setup script failed error... | 19:52 |
| mriedem | Swanson: yeah | 19:52 |
| mriedem | ERROR: InvocationError: '/opt/stack/new/tempest/.tox/venv/bin/verify-tempest-config -uro | 19:52 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: did you release a thing? | 19:52 |
| mriedem | Swanson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1482758 | 19:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1482758 in tempest "verify-tempest-config fails on kilo" [Undecided,New] | 19:55 |
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| mriedem | Swanson: oh i bet there was an oslo release which changed tempest configs on stable or something | 19:57 |
| dimsum__ | mriedem: not since monday afternoon | 19:58 |
| mriedem | hrm | 19:58 |
| mriedem | yeah, and tempest doesn't have a kilo branch and no longer checks tempest.conf.sample | 19:58 |
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| mriedem | here we go http://logs.openstack.org/57/210557/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/51b2e81/logs/tempest.txt.gz#_2015-08-07_19_16_15_847 | 19:59 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: I released subunit2sql yesterday and today, and os-testr today | 19:59 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: on new: http://logs.openstack.org/57/210557/1/check/gate-grenade-dsvm/51b2e81/logs/new/screen-s-proxy.txt.gz | 20:00 |
| mtreinish | there's your issue | 20:00 |
| fungi | jenkins04 is getting pretty bad. i'm putting it into prepare for shutdown and cleaning it up | 20:00 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: that's separatei think | 20:00 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: no, tempest gets a connection refused trying to talk to swift | 20:01 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: that was on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker yesterday | 20:01 |
| mtreinish | swift never comes up on new | 20:01 |
| mriedem | oh | 20:01 |
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| Swanson | That looks unhappy | 20:02 |
| mriedem | ok, and neutronclient did a release on stable this week | 20:02 |
| mtreinish | although I'm a bit confused because that verify script should only be running on old | 20:02 |
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| mriedem | this is what broke things https://github.com/openstack/python-neutronclient/commit/3f03a3bdb87782930eaf236f726f9bed7229e441 | 20:04 |
| mriedem | that's in neutronclient 2.3.12 | 20:05 |
| mriedem | released on 8/4, logstash shows this start failing after that | 20:05 |
| mtreinish | mestery: ^^^ | 20:05 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: ^ | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: on the box and whiskers graph what is the y axis? seconds? | 20:06 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah it's sec | 20:06 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: any chance we can get the job names to show up? | 20:07 |
| mtreinish | but it's a bit misleading because its the sum of all the test run times from the subunit stream for a run | 20:07 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: thats probably decent as devstack time is pretty constant | 20:07 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: on the filtered one, yeah there should be I just need to learn the matplotlib foo the extend it | 20:07 |
| clarkb | (not that we can't make devstack go faster too, just a differnet problem) | 20:08 |
| clarkb | looks like the dvr job is the worst | 20:08 |
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| clarkb | with regular neutron not far behind | 20:08 |
| clarkb | and ceph does well compared to non ceph | 20:09 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: i've completed a dry-run of the import on the new ask server and made some corrections to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/askbot-trusty-migration | 20:12 |
| mrmartin | fungi: great, we have some content now | 20:13 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: ceph might run less tests, I'd have to check the config | 20:13 |
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| mtreinish | but I remember there were driver bugs | 20:13 |
| fungi | mrmartin: it's basically cut-n-paste ready now. i'm confident we can keep the outage to roughly an hour unless something goes terribly wrong | 20:13 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: http://blog.kortar.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/scater-test4.png | 20:14 |
| mtreinish | that has the legend fixed | 20:14 |
| mrmartin | fungi: the logo seems to be missing, do we have the recovered upfiles directory on his place? | 20:14 |
| mtreinish | but it kinda makes the plot look tiny | 20:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for juno side of grenade failing bug 1482758 https://review.openstack.org/210596 | 20:15 |
| openstack | bug 1482758 in tempest "verify-tempest-config fails on kilo (python-neutronclient 2.3.12 caps for juno)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482758 | 20:15 |
| fungi | mrmartin: yes, i extracted the old server's upfiles into /srv/askbot-site/upfiles | 20:15 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: what's the specific file it's not displaying? | 20:15 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: does jetty need a restart too after that, or just askbot-celeryd and apache2? | 20:15 |
| mrmartin | I don't think it is related, jetty is handling the solr server only | 20:16 |
| fungi | k | 20:16 |
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| mrmartin | we have this line in html: <img src="None" alt="Ask OpenStack logo"> | 20:16 |
| mrmartin | so it is not too informative | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Add new graph type to show run_time variace by metadata https://review.openstack.org/210569 | 20:17 |
| fungi | mrmartin: i see /srv/askbot-site/upfiles/open-stack-cloud-computing-logo-2.png present on the server | 20:19 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: but yeah that clearly shows that neutron is slower in general (or at least since midnight) | 20:19 |
| mrmartin | fungi: do we have proper www access permissions on upfiles directory? It seems to be that settings.py have a typo in media root | 20:19 |
| mrmartin | I'm doing the patch. | 20:20 |
| fungi | mrmartin: yeah, users in the www-data group can read and write the files in that directory | 20:21 |
| fungi | as can the www-data user | 20:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Fix askbot upfiles directory typo https://review.openstack.org/210597 | 20:22 |
| mrmartin | fungi ^^^ the fix is there | 20:22 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: yep, that typo was also in part of the plan in the etherpad (since fixed) | 20:23 |
| fungi | i wonder why it didn't show up on the staging server | 20:23 |
| mrmartin | because I not restored the upfiles. | 20:25 |
| mrmartin | it was missing from initial backup, then the task is lost in the matrix somewhere ;) | 20:25 |
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| fungi | heh | 20:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Require ssh_key, username, password and url https://review.openstack.org/209607 | 20:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Add flavor functional tests https://review.openstack.org/210589 | 20:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add Gemfile and puppet 4 checks https://review.openstack.org/203164 | 20:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Gate on puppet-lint-version_comparison-check https://review.openstack.org/202884 | 20:43 |
| fungi | okay, jenkins04 is cleaned up and back online now | 20:43 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Does this seem sane? http://paste.openstack.org/show/412230/ | 20:44 |
| fungi | krotscheck: oh, neat. i didn't know about schedule resources | 20:45 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Yeah, I figured that running an NPM cache update every 15 minutes might not be a good idea. | 20:45 |
| fungi | krotscheck: does it seem to be working in your testbed? | 20:46 |
| krotscheck | I also don't know if that's a thing that's in our puppet version, but it ran fine on trusty | 20:46 |
| krotscheck | fungi: Yes... insofar as it doesn't run every time, but the schedule's a little ahrd to test. | 20:46 |
| * krotscheck could wake up at midnight and doublecheck :D | 20:47 | |
| fungi | krotscheck: well, more to the point you got latest npm that way and it didn't throw any errors? | 20:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for juno side of grenade failing bug 1482758 https://review.openstack.org/210596 | 20:47 |
| krotscheck | fungi: I got "Most recent NPM that run s on the installed version of node", which is recent enough. | 20:47 |
| openstack | bug 1482758 in python-neutronclient "grenade: swift-proxy-server fails to start in juno due to python-neutronclient 2.3.12 caps" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1482758 | 20:47 |
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| krotscheck | So yes. | 20:47 |
| krotscheck | It ran | 20:47 |
| fungi | krotscheck: wfm then | 20:48 |
| krotscheck | Alllrightey | 20:48 |
| * krotscheck goes and updates the release slave. | 20:48 | |
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| akraminsky_ | clarkb, I verified that the gate64 model is being added to the cpu_map.xml file with the features being identical on both the host node and subnode, but don't seem to understand why it's still giving me this error "Host CPU does not provide required features: ssse3, vme" | 20:55 |
| akraminsky_ | both features seem to be included in the gate64 model | 20:56 |
| clarkb | akraminsky_: you have to tell nova to use that model | 20:57 |
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| akraminsky_ | clarkb, oh can you give me some hints on how to do that? :) | 20:59 |
| clarkb | akraminsky_: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate.sh#n570 | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: btw the nodepool patch to run geard passes now | 21:07 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: \O/ | 21:07 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: do you need to rebase your change on it? | 21:07 |
| greghaynes | yes | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Fix askbot upfiles directory typo https://review.openstack.org/210597 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | Swanson: well i've figured out the problem for stable/kilo | 21:09 |
| mriedem | and it's awesome | 21:09 |
| mriedem | neutronclient 2.3.12 has caps for juno | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | g-r for kilo allows neutronclient 2.3.12 | 21:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Keep npm up-to-date. https://review.openstack.org/210601 | 21:10 |
| mriedem | but kilo has it's own caps | 21:10 |
| mriedem | kaboom! | 21:10 |
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| krotscheck | Leeeeets try that one. | 21:11 |
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| fungi | mrmartin: that typo fix is applied on the replacement ask server now | 21:14 |
| mrmartin | I see no difference, can you do an apache restart? | 21:15 |
| fungi | mrmartin: done. any better? | 21:15 |
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| mrmartin | ok, it is perfect now | 21:15 |
| fungi | great! | 21:16 |
| fungi | seems like we're probably all set to schedule the migration unless you spot anything else odd | 21:16 |
| mrmartin | I guess I need to add a settings.py notification to restart apache on change. | 21:16 |
| fungi | good idea | 21:16 |
| mrmartin | but it is a minor thing, seems good to me. anyway, let's ask reed to do a final review | 21:17 |
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| mrmartin | and if it seems ok, we can go on with final migration on Monday or Tuesday | 21:17 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann: ping | 21:19 |
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| palendae | Hi, can anyone point me to some documentation or an example of a 'simple job' definition in the project-config directory? | 21:27 |
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| odyssey4me | palendae you took the words out of my mouth :p | 21:31 |
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| EmilienM | fungi: can you open https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209296/ ? I see some Gerrit weird things happening | 21:32 |
| odyssey4me | fungi clarkb we're working on https://review.openstack.org/210498 and Andreas has put the option there of using a 'simple job' instead of a macro... we simply want to run a script in the repo but I can't find a non-macro example to work from here - thoughts? | 21:32 |
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| Swanson | mriedem: So, not a quick one? | 21:36 |
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| clarkb | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/misc.yaml#n1 is about as simple as it gets | 21:46 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: can you open https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209296/ ? | 21:46 |
| clarkb | yes? | 21:48 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: damn | 21:49 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: "The page you requested was not found, or you do not have permission to view this page." | 21:50 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: I restarted by browser, etc | 21:50 |
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| clarkb | it defaults to ps3 open not ps4 so it maybe unhappy somehow | 21:50 |
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| EmilienM | clarkb: what is ps3/ps4 ? | 21:52 |
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| sdake_ | clarkb do you know whenthe next scheduled move process is? | 22:06 |
| krotscheck | EmilienM: They're gaming consoles published by sony #notbeinghelpful | 22:06 |
| sdake_ | or anyone else for that matter | 22:06 |
| clarkb | sdake_ we dont have one scheduled | 22:06 |
| clarkb | patchset 3 and 4 | 22:06 |
| sdake_ | will it be before liberty 3? | 22:06 |
| sdake_ | we have a bunch of people for kolla that will become atcs as a esult and would like a gratis summit pass | 22:07 |
| clarkb | sdake we havent scheduled one so who knoes | 22:07 |
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| sdake_ | i just want to make sure they dont get left out on the atc passes | 22:07 |
| sdake_ | perhaps there is a different way to solve that ;) | 22:07 |
| clarkb | its based on governance repo too not gerrit org iurc | 22:07 |
| clarkb | so moce has nothibg to do with it | 22:07 |
| sdake_ | oh didn't know that | 22:07 |
| clarkb | but fungi can confir. | 22:07 |
| sdake_ | all good then | 22:07 |
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| clarkb | have fungi confirm but I am pretty sure its set up that way | 22:08 |
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| sdake_ | clarkb thanks | 22:12 |
| sdake_ | fungi can you confirm if your around? | 22:12 |
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| krotscheck | Is there a naming convention for jobs explicitly meant for different queues? i.e. a job that happens on release tag, a job that happens to push a release tag to a package site.... | 22:22 |
| krotscheck | I know there's "gate-{name} | 22:22 |
| krotscheck | And check-{name} | 22:22 |
| krotscheck | is there release-{name}? grep failed to find it. | 22:23 |
| jesusaurus | krotscheck: I've seen post- jobs but can't think of any release- jobs | 22:23 |
| krotscheck | jesusaurus: So, post would be post merge, but not necessarily rlease? | 22:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | Folks - how to enable a project to list in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ ? | 22:25 |
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| jesusaurus | krotscheck: yeah, a cursory glance through zuul's layout.yaml makes it look like most of the release jobs don't have a prefix | 22:37 |
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| fungi | sdake_: clarkb: yes, it has everything to do with repos being listed (correctly, not predictively) in the governance repo | 22:46 |
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| fungi | so if it's called stackforge/foo and your tc-recognized project team has stackforge/foo listed in the governance repo in a deliverable it will count. if it's stackforge/foo in gerrit and the governance repo has it listed as openstack/foo because you're expecting it to eventually be correct after the repo is renamed, that won't help | 22:48 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: generally no prefix there. we have 'foo-tarball' and 'foo-pypi-upload' for instance. | 22:51 |
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| sdake_ | fungi thanks so in kolla's case we have openstack/kolla for atcs, should I submit a governance repo change to change it to stackforge until the rename happens? | 22:54 |
| sdake_ | fungi our repo is still in stackforge because no rename has been done | 22:54 |
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| sdake_ | fungi do you have any idea when the l3 atc passes will be sent out? | 22:55 |
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| sdake_ | perhaps clarkb would be up for a rename prior to this deadline change :) | 22:55 |
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| sdake_ | rather this deadline | 22:56 |
| sdake_ | rather this deadline | 22:56 |
| sdake_ | sorry for double post | 22:56 |
| sdake_ | client error | 22:56 |
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| sdake_ | fungi followup question, does the governance repo require any special tag to obtain the atc passes, or are all projects in the governance repo eligible? | 23:00 |
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| krotscheck | alright, I'll go with that then. | 23:04 |
| sdake_ | fungi i'm going to hit the mailing list with your quote - hope your ameiable to that, i think this affects alot of projects besides kolla | 23:04 |
| sdake_ | fungi if you prefer a different approach let me know before i shoot off the email | 23:04 |
| sdake_ | and submit a governance repo change for the repo name | 23:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add section on retiring a project https://review.openstack.org/210638 | 23:35 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Add section on retiring a project https://review.openstack.org/210638 | 23:38 |
| fungi | sdake: sorry, in and out. it's evening here and i'm moving my stuff between homes in my spare time... i'm sending at least a couple more batches of codes out before the rates go up on september 1. there should be a set going out early next week | 23:39 |
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| sdake | fungi cool i fired off an email | 23:39 |
| sdake | fungi so others are aware of this problem | 23:39 |
| fungi | sdake: and yes, i can manually error-correct the discrepancy between the governance repo and our infrastructure. i'll try to remember | 23:40 |
| sdake | well i just asked the tc to change our repo temporarily | 23:40 |
| sdake | but ya manual correction would rock ;) | 23:40 |
| sdake | there are only a few projects thatneed rename atm | 23:40 |
| sdake | but there may be many without correct repos ;-) | 23:40 |
| fungi | sdake: since our repo names are (in theory at least) globally unique across all namespaces, i'll see about tweaking the script to just ignore namespaces | 23:41 |
| sdake | cool - i tagged my mail [tc][ptl] iirc | 23:41 |
| sdake | if thats the solution, that would be easiest for everyone | 23:41 |
| sdake | then i dont have to revert this change and the tc doesn't have to approve a change and a revert | 23:41 |
| sdake | you can leave a comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210636/ if you like | 23:42 |
| fungi | i'll see if i can hack on it a bit from bed this evening | 23:42 |
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| sdake | fungi one problem i'd like to point out with the hacking the script thing is OSAD actually didn't just change their top level project, but also their repository names | 23:44 |
| sdake | so that will require manual intervention if their to get a fair shake | 23:44 |
| * fungi has no idea what/who an osad is | 23:44 | |
| sdake | AnsibleDeploy | 23:44 |
| sdake | in stackforge is something like os-ansible-deploy | 23:44 |
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| sdake | so they renamed from stackforge/os-ansible-deploy to openstack/AnsibleDeploy | 23:45 |
| fungi | oh, yeah i'm not sure i can automatically detect things like that | 23:45 |
| sdake | (dont quot eme on the exact things, its in the governance repo exactly) | 23:45 |
| sdake | ya no way to detect that automatically | 23:45 |
| sdake | one thing that may help if you do a manual process is to look at the rename list | 23:45 |
| sdake | just trying to help not make your life harder ;) | 23:46 |
| sdake | just want fairness for every atc :) | 23:46 |
| fungi | i mean, i'm using the same script we also use to determine who gets to vote in technical elections, so it's in everyone's best interests to have what's in governance match what's in our infrastructure | 23:46 |
| clarkb | and the same script for at least several summits | 23:46 |
| clarkb | and its in openstack-infra/system-config/tools ya? so anyon ecan fix | 23:47 |
| sdake | fungi https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Upcoming_Project_Renames | 23:47 |
| fungi | yep | 23:47 |
| sdake | fungi roger that, its not justabout atc passes then | 23:47 |
| clarkb | (and tecnically we don't give atc passes) | 23:48 |
| sdake | the big tent is sort of new though so this may not be widely understood by the community | 23:48 |
| fungi | sdake: cool, i know it's hard to sync up when infra's available to do project renames and when the tc approves bookkeeping administrivia so they won't always be precisely in lock-step. hopefully getting rid of the stackforge namespace will help a lot of this | 23:48 |
| clarkb | (we give some subset of atc passes that have contributed in the last cycle not the last two) | 23:48 |
| sdake | clarkb could you expand? | 23:48 |
| clarkb | sdake: atc is not suffiicent | 23:48 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual: Move some content to HOWTOs https://review.openstack.org/210640 | 23:49 |
| fungi | sdake: the criteria for discount passes is not exactly the criteria for voting in technical elections | 23:49 |
| sdake | fungi oh right you mean the 6 month vs 12 month window | 23:49 |
| jeblair | fungi: ^ small infra-manual reorg we've both mumbled about in the past :) | 23:49 |
| fungi | sdake: which contributors get complimentary discount registration codes is decided by the event organizers, whreas who gets to vote in technical elections ("atc") is defined in our bylaws | 23:50 |
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| sdake | fungi oh I wasn't aware of that, I thought it was all committers | 23:50 |
| fungi | sdake: at the moment yeah it's anyone who is an atc with a commit merged since kilo release day (april 30) but the criteria could change over time depending on a variety of factors | 23:51 |
| sdake | right it not set in stone got it :) | 23:51 |
| sdake | i recall it used to be 1 year as well and has changed to just the last cycle | 23:51 |
| fungi | i mean, the bylaws aren't set in stone either, but it takes rather a lot more effort to change them, whereas who gets discount codes is fairly malleable | 23:52 |
| sdake | cool | 23:52 |
| sdake | but if anyone that contributes to nova gets a pass because their namespace is stable, whereas in kolla they dont because our namespace is in flux, not toally fair :) | 23:53 |
| fungi | and yeah, it's still looking like ~2000 complimentary discount codes going out to contributors for tokyo. we keep growing openstack rather rapidly | 23:53 |
| * SamYaple already got his | 23:53 | |
| clarkb | sdake: I think we hvae established namespace shouldn't be an issue for this as fungi can drop that part of the comparison | 23:53 |
| sdake | fungi cool its nobodies fault - its just how hte system works | 23:54 |
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| clarkb | sdake: that leaves us just with things that are actually renaming which I am a bit more meh on (so many renames why cant we just pick names that work) | 23:54 |
| sdake | i'm just trying to look out for the kolla committers who under the current system should get a complimentary pass | 23:54 |
| fungi | right. projects like os-ansible-deployment will be a little more touchy to work around but i'll try to keep an eye on things with renames proposed | 23:54 |
| clarkb | put another way tracking renames like that is much harder and while it may no tbe fair its also impossible to assert it will be done perfectly | 23:55 |
| sdake | clarkb agree its imposibble to make perfect | 23:56 |
| clarkb | (because we do so many renames keeping track is too hard) | 23:56 |
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| * fungi would like to do a lot fewer renames | 23:56 | |
| sdake | i think the stackforge depreation will make that easier | 23:56 |
| fungi | me too | 23:56 |
| sdake | I don't speculate there are many project renames in general except for big tent | 23:56 |
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| sdake | I could be wron tho, I have no data :) | 23:57 |
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| fungi | at least as of when my local copy of the project list updated this morning, it was 337 stackforge.* repos vs 414 openstack.* repos | 23:59 |
| fungi | 751 repos total in our gerrit | 23:59 |
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