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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/os-testr: Fix issues with the blacklist file regex generation https://review.openstack.org/218527 | 00:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/os-testr: Fix issues with the blacklist file regex generation https://review.openstack.org/218527 | 00:38 |
| odyssey4me | is it at all possible to determine the cloud region that the instance is running in in order to configure things differently? | 00:42 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps from an environment variable or something? | 00:43 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: for the moment, you can tell from the instance's hostname | 00:43 |
| fungi | though i don't know we can guarantee we won't change that behavior | 00:44 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: however there are files in /etc/nodepool which may have the info you're looking for | 00:44 |
| fungi | just a sec | 00:44 |
| odyssey4me | fungi ah, so I've known that http://logs.openstack.org/11/218611/1/check/gate-os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-commit/58de4ae/console.html#_2015-08-30_00_22_37_320 gives me the cloud/region info, but didn't think that it was the actual node name... I should have - it is kinda obvious. :p | 00:45 |
| odyssey4me | the reason I'm looking to determine this is that I'm hoping to optimise the apt repositories based on the cloud its in - in hpcloud we get really slow apt updates and downloads, so I'm hoping that using an official repo will work better | 00:46 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: here you go... http://paste.openstack.org/show/432808/ | 00:46 |
| odyssey4me | thanks, that's a nifty bit of info - so it'll be rax / hpcloud ? | 00:47 |
| fungi | yep | 00:47 |
| fungi | NODEPOOL_PROVIDER=hpcloud-b3 for example | 00:48 |
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| odyssey4me | hpcloud-b4 seems to be our worst culprit, consistently | 00:48 |
| clarkb | what mirrors do you use? | 00:48 |
| odyssey4me | every single time the build runs there, we get a build timeout - and the action the instance is doing is way, way early on | 00:49 |
| clarkb | those hosts should use cloud local mirrors | 00:49 |
| fungi | interesting. they're all just (theoretically identical) neutron networks we created in hpcloud region b (east) to get around performance issues with their router controllers | 00:49 |
| odyssey4me | the current default mirror has been a rax mirror, but we used to use the ubuntu archive and had the same issues | 00:49 |
| clarkb | so you change our hosts? | 00:49 |
| clarkb | you should use what we have configured | 00:50 |
| odyssey4me | I'm testing now with a patch that'll just derive the apt repo to use from the one configured in the image and to use that instead | 00:50 |
| odyssey4me | we do unfortunately have to rewrite the sources file as we've found that the sources aren't consistent every time :/ | 00:51 |
| odyssey4me | for swift we need the backports pool configured (liberasure), but some of the environments don't seem to have that | 00:51 |
| fungi | clarkb: are you sure they're local? http://paste.openstack.org/show/432821/ | 00:52 |
| fungi | those ip addresses are all in a block assigned to canonical from what i can tell | 00:52 |
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| fungi | though i suppose there could be a transparent http proxy redirecting those to a local mirror | 00:54 |
| odyssey4me | so I found this ref and I'm trying it out to see if it works: http://blog.utlemming.org/2013/04/official-ubuntu-mirrors-in-hp-cloud.html | 00:54 |
| clarkb | fungi I think thats what they do/did | 00:55 |
| odyssey4me | that host name doesn't work in rax cloud though | 00:55 |
| fungi | yeah, rackspace configures their base images to use local mirrors, but hpcloud doesn't have their own images | 00:55 |
| fungi | and also we're dib'ing the devstack images in hpcloud these days anyway | 00:55 |
| fungi | when i try connecting to one of those via http from an hpcloud host and perform a bad get, its error identifies the server as "economy.canonical.com" which, while that could be getting spoofed or passed through from a proxy, seems unlikely | 01:00 |
| fungi | (connecting to one of the ip addresses to which us.archive.ubuntu.com resolved there, i mean) | 01:01 |
| clarkb | hrm I thought they wree doing magic since they used canonical/ubuntus images | 01:03 |
| clarkb | but I agree that doens't look like it | 01:03 |
| clarkb | fungi: which would be fine on the dib built images since they use the same base | 01:03 |
| fungi | yep | 01:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/216992 | 01:32 |
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| odyssey4me | ah yes, I wanted to ask whether there was a way for us to publish tarballs to somewhere in openstack's infra? | 01:54 |
| odyssey4me | it would specifically be prepared lxc images which we'd build whenever we tag | 01:54 |
| odyssey4me | I figure that disk-image-builder must be publishing somewhere, and we'd be happy to use disk-image-builder for image building too. :) | 02:02 |
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| mordred | odyssey4me: yes to there being a way/place to publish tarballs | 02:31 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: and I'd love to work with you when I'm less drunk on dib-ing your stuff | 02:31 |
| odyssey4me | hahahaha mordred :) | 02:31 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: speaking of which - since you're ansible, remind me to pitch you on using glean at some point | 02:32 |
| odyssey4me | I see an example and am working through it, scotch in-hand :) https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/akanda.yaml#L82-L104 | 02:32 |
| mordred | woot! | 02:32 |
| odyssey4me | mordred we must catch up at the summit - it'd be great to put together a common vision and share ideas | 02:33 |
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| odyssey4me | haha, that's funny: https://github.com/stackforge/akanda-appliance/blob/master/scripts/create-akanda-raw-image.sh#L78 | 02:35 |
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| mordred | odyssey4me: hahaha! yes | 02:42 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: and yes to a common vision | 02:42 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: I actually need to write an email back to Robyn over at Ansible tomorrow ... | 02:42 |
| odyssey4me | mordred it seems that those of us at Tokyo will likely be there on Monday, so perhaps an informal meet on Monday would be good - unless Ansible decides to host something | 02:43 |
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| clarkb | mordred will hopefully be in the board meeting monday | 02:44 |
| clarkb | doing board things | 02:45 |
| odyssey4me | haha, ok | 02:45 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb it'd perhaps also be useful to do a bit of a chalk-and-talk around how we can use -infra better | 02:47 |
| odyssey4me | and perhaps where we can collaborate on some common work, seeing as we're both doing ansible things :) | 02:47 |
| * greghaynes wonders what this dib publishing is about | 02:48 | |
| odyssey4me | greghaynes oh? what's to wonder? | 02:49 |
| greghaynes | just lacking context, came in late | 02:49 |
| odyssey4me | ah | 02:50 |
| greghaynes | curious what the goal is if theres a tl;dr | 02:50 |
| odyssey4me | well, I didn't really give much context - I just figured that it makes sense that there's a publishing mechanism, then I found one | 02:50 |
| odyssey4me | I'm researching ways to optimise our gating - 'our' being 'openstack-ansible' which is a deployment project | 02:51 |
| greghaynes | oh, so you just want to publish artifacts, possibly from dib | 02:51 |
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| odyssey4me | one way is to prep images with some stuff pre-installed - this can benefit both gating and deployments | 02:51 |
| odyssey4me | yep | 02:51 |
| mordred | ++ | 02:52 |
| odyssey4me | we've talked about using images for a while - it's getting more and more obvious that we need to do it | 02:52 |
| odyssey4me | it may perhaps also be useful to publish python wheels | 02:52 |
| odyssey4me | we currently pull from git and build wheels for the deployment, but in liberty and beyond this process is starting to become less and less practical... while having a localised wheel mirror for a site is useful, it seems that deploying from source into a venv to ensure that there are less conflicts will become more and more necessary | 02:54 |
| odyssey4me | so at the summit I think we'd like to discuss alternative ideas, thoughts and options to see where we can make it moar betterer :p | 02:55 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: I think that's a great idea! | 02:56 |
| odyssey4me | mordred :) ideally if we can do the work in such a way that those that want to package beyond a wheel can do so - but we don't really do much with the packagers at this stage, so I;m not sure how practical that is | 02:58 |
| odyssey4me | one step at a time, of course | 02:59 |
| odyssey4me | greghaynes clear as mud? perhaps a good drink will help? :p | 02:59 |
| clarkb | in theory constraints avoids any conflicts | 03:00 |
| odyssey4me | clarkb sure, so global-requirements currently does a reasonable job | 03:01 |
| odyssey4me | at least for libraries and clients | 03:01 |
| greghaynes | haha, sounds like a very familiar set of problems ;) | 03:01 |
| odyssey4me | but as the big tent grows, I see this becoming harder and harder to manage | 03:02 |
| odyssey4me | so while we already isolate services in containers, we currently use yaprt to determine a common set of requirements and to build the required wheels | 03:02 |
| odyssey4me | we're already seeing that seeking a common set of requirements is hard - not yet impossible, but hard | 03:03 |
| clarkb | that list already exists, its called upper-constraints.txt | 03:04 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, the upper constraints have been magic for the stable branches :) | 03:05 |
| odyssey4me | we could definitely work together on bindep other-requirements.txt population though | 03:06 |
| odyssey4me | that'd make multi-os support a lot simpler | 03:07 |
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| docaedo | we (a few app catalog folk) have thought it would be pretty cool to include dib-on-demand functionality in the catalog, or something along those lines | 03:18 |
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| docaedo | would give folk who are afraid of installing/running DIB on their own (or maybe resource constrained?) the chance to get a DIB image built for them with whatever options they like | 03:20 |
| odyssey4me | docaedo that sounds like a hard thing for operations to support, unless any specs from users could be merged with a cloud administrator's base specs (eg: includes for an ssh public key or whatever) | 03:20 |
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| docaedo | odyssey4me: unique bits like that could be supplied at the time of request? I'm not saying all gate usage of DIB would go through the app catalog, just walked past the computer and saw bits of the conversation, reminded me of the idea and I don't think I ever mentioned it to greghaynes or anyone else | 03:22 |
| docaedo | probably consider my comment more along the lines of "isnt DIB the best? let's plug it in to the app catalog!" | 03:23 |
| * docaedo realizes thats totally a drive-by, as he has reading to kids to do :) | 03:23 | |
| odyssey4me | docaedo :) I think I like the idea, don't get me wrong... although I just think that perhaps it'd be great if there was some sort of optional ops merge of requirements | 03:24 |
| odyssey4me | ie if a cloud provider (or enterprise private cloud provider) needs to ensure that any images have a base spec, then any images auto-generated by a service will include that base spec | 03:25 |
| kfox1111 | I think there are a lot of dib elements that can work without op customization. | 03:25 |
| kfox1111 | like the sahara ones. | 03:25 |
| kfox1111 | we are already including ones in the catalog, but they are probably out of date, since they aren't rebuilt very often. | 03:26 |
| odyssey4me | it may be something simple like ensuring that whatever a user provides as a spec, ops know that having a nova or monitoring agent is important | 03:26 |
| kfox1111 | having some kind of infra job for them to periodically rebuild them would be very nice. | 03:26 |
| odyssey4me | at the very least an agent to help handle interaction with the hypervisor | 03:26 |
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| kfox1111 | docaedo: see my message in the app-catalog channel... | 03:27 |
| odyssey4me | kfox1111 are you talking about the image used for sahara deployments - ie some sort of image with the right instrumentation for heat? | 03:28 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 03:28 |
| kfox1111 | or images with the murano agent loaded, or trove images, etc. | 03:28 |
| odyssey4me | kfox1111 well, that makes sense - it seems that image building is already being done by some projects | 03:29 |
| kfox1111 | having a set of jobs that ran disk image builder and made updated images with all the ubuntu/redhat/whatever security patches already preapplied would be nice. | 03:29 |
| odyssey4me | kfox1111 eg: https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/akanda.yaml#L82-L104 | 03:29 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. so the idea woudl be to provide common infrastructure so those projects wouldn't have to do as much themselves, and hook it into the app catalog somehow so they are always fresh. | 03:30 |
| kfox1111 | ah. yeah. :) | 03:30 |
| docaedo | kfox1111: yep :) | 03:31 |
| odyssey4me | kfox1111 so yeah, we're thinking along the same lines - although our focus is images for the purpose of use with lxc... that said, I expect that any lxc/docker/whatever builds would share a lot of requirements | 03:31 |
| docaedo | dearest infra team, getting this merged is now blocking progress for us on at least three different patches, any chance for a little love? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205882/ | 03:32 |
| kfox1111 | +1 yes please. :) | 03:32 |
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| kfox1111 | the other json converters are workign ok, so I'm not sure why the currently proposed one wouldn't work. | 03:33 |
| docaedo | if I had to guess, I would guess the only issue is that I proposed it right in the middle of a wedged gate, and everyone worked their asses off to fix that, and are taking a well deserved break | 03:34 |
| odyssey4me | random thought: it makes sense in my mind that the deployer projects (ansible, chef, puppet, etc) are solving similar problems... perhaps we should do some sort of get together at the summit to see if there's a way that we can work together on some things | 03:35 |
| odyssey4me | or at least share experiences and information | 03:36 |
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| docaedo | +1 on collaboration for the deployers | 03:38 |
| kfox1111 | +1 | 03:39 |
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| kfox1111 | especially with my op hat on. :) | 03:39 |
| odyssey4me | :) it would seem to me that perhaps we could pool resources on figuring out production-practical deployment configurations for features and architectures coming out of the various openstack projects | 03:41 |
| odyssey4me | it makes better sense than each project's resources doing the same things independently | 03:41 |
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| odyssey4me | I don't think there's an existing forum for this though. Maybe it makes sense to use the operators forum as a base? | 03:42 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 03:42 |
| odyssey4me | the trouble with the operators forum in my mind is that it's a little too disparately focused... maybe it'd be good to interact there, but have a focus group of some sort too | 03:43 |
| kfox1111 | Was kind of hoping, some of the advanced services like sahara could be contributed to the app catalog so ops could deploy it on their cloud that way if they didn't want or couldn't through their own deployment [C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[Ctools. | 03:43 |
| kfox1111 | ops wouldwork just to maybe start hte conversation. then can move it elsewhere. | 03:44 |
| kfox1111 | I gota head out. have a good evening. | 03:44 |
| odyssey4me | kfox1111 is that perhaps not happening because it's not a commonly used/understood use-case? it's still pretty bleeding edge? | 03:45 |
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| kfox1111_away | maybe. We've deployed sahara/designate and a few other things using heat templates inside an rdo cloud. has worked out pretty well. I'm hoping to contribute some templates if I can get some time to clean them up. | 03:45 |
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| kfox1111_away | murano would be another one that could be deployed that way. | 03:46 |
| odyssey4me | kfox1111_away have a good evening, chat another time | 03:46 |
| kfox1111_away | odyssey4me: yup. was good talking to you. l8r. | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | SHIGEMATSU Mitsuhiro proposed openstack/requirements: Add kolla to requirements family https://review.openstack.org/218144 | 06:02 |
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| rm_work | this one has been sitting for a bit, pretty trivial: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217458/ if anyone has a moment | 06:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | SHIGEMATSU Mitsuhiro proposed openstack-infra/project-config: copy_puppet_logs: copy dstat logs if exist https://review.openstack.org/218586 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/217138 | 15:31 |
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| pabelanger | speaking of ansible, if somebody was to create ansible-role-nodepool for example, how would that person go about getting it into our git workflow? Since we don't have too many ansible roles right now, would be interested to see how that would move forward | 15:38 |
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| mordred | pabelanger: we do have one role | 15:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support to monitor folders using FS trigger plugin https://review.openstack.org/204125 | 15:49 |
| mordred | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/ansible-puppet | 15:49 |
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| mordred | pabelanger: and we even have jjb/zuul test scripts and stuff | 15:50 |
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| pabelanger | mordred: Right, I haven't had a chance to look at ansible-puppet or is it puppet-ansible? :) Either way, was mostly curious if we'd (infra) start importing more under our namespace even if -infra is not consuming them. Maybe the OpenStack ansible team is a better place to ask. Much prefer our workflow or github is the reasoning | 15:53 |
| mordred | pabelanger: it's an interesting question, although prolly more of one for mr jeblair | 15:58 |
| mordred | pabelanger: (puppet-ansbile is a different thing :) ) | 15:59 |
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| mordred | clarkb: if you get a sec, could you check 212177? I feel like you've done a lot of stuff with fcntl lock stuff in the past and would love a second eye on it | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/glean: Work around races with /root/.ssh https://review.openstack.org/216878 | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Somay Jain proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for monitoring files using FSTrigger Plugin https://review.openstack.org/203364 | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | bertagaz proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for the CucumberTestResult plugin. https://review.openstack.org/218668 | 16:17 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: 205822 has a response to your comment - are you good with it? | 16:31 |
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| mordred | docaedo: +2 from me on that ^^ but would love nibalizer to respond | 16:33 |
| docaedo | mordred: thanks :) nibalizer and I cleared it up via IRC I think but haven't seen a response to my response on review | 16:35 |
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| rcarrillocruz | mordred: heya, is it possible you tag latest fix on glean (the .root creation race SpamapS fixed) for a new pypi release? | 17:06 |
| rcarrillocruz | unless there's some more fixes around pending, i'm hitting that on my deploys | 17:06 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz: there's one more patch I wanted either clarkb or someone else to look at | 17:48 |
| mordred | rcarrillocruz: as soon as it lands, I'll release | 17:48 |
| pabelanger | so, I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217928/ might have broken centos7 dibs. nodepool has been failing for 2 days now | 17:50 |
| pabelanger | eg: http://nodepool.openstack.org/hpcloud-b1.devstack-centos7.log | 17:50 |
| pabelanger | Error: Could not enable iptables | 17:51 |
| pabelanger | will have to look into it tomorrow | 17:51 |
| pabelanger | mostly a heads up | 17:51 |
| pabelanger | ianw: ^ | 17:51 |
| mordred | pabelanger: awesome | 17:52 |
| clarkb | hrm that only runs if not dibing | 17:56 |
| clarkb | so I would be surpised if it did | 17:56 |
| clarkb | oh thats not a dibed image iirc | 17:57 |
| clarkb | so it may have broken snapshots | 17:57 |
| mordred | \o/ | 17:57 |
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| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 18:19 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 22:48 |
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| marzif_ | jhesketh, if you have time, can you review this please: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193125/ | 23:18 |
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| ruagair | o/ | 23:24 |
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| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 23:29 |
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