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| pleia2 | yeah, I don't think it made sense in the 90s either | 00:01 |
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| waynr | anyone here particularly familiar with the stevedore library? | 00:01 |
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| lifeless | waynr: passingly, though -oslo would be perhaps a better channel. Whats up? | 00:02 |
| waynr | I am attempting to use it for a project I am working on and as far as I can tell it simply isn't loading an extension listed in setup.py that it was loading last week when I last worked on it | 00:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Collect DStat CSV logs if they exist. https://review.openstack.org/212189 | 00:02 |
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| waynr | using stevedore 1.8.0 | 00:03 |
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| waynr | hmm i tried adding a bogus entry point and stevedore doesn't seem to care | 00:04 |
| jroll | waynr: need to install the application again after changing entry points | 00:04 |
| jroll | 'pip install .' or 'python setup.py install' | 00:05 |
| lifeless | jroll: never run python setup.py install :) | 00:05 |
| lifeless | jroll: we don't actually support it | 00:05 |
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| waynr | i've been using "python setup.py develop" | 00:05 |
| jroll | lifeless: I mean, surely it depends on the project | 00:05 |
| lifeless | jroll: nope. pip fixes up setup.py behaviour | 00:06 |
| lifeless | jroll: to correctly track installed files, for instance | 00:06 |
| clarkb | especially around use of http vs https | 00:06 |
| lifeless | jroll: not to mention the nightmare of easy-install clarkb is referring to | 00:06 |
| jroll | waynr: I stand corrected, use 'pip install .' | 00:06 |
| jroll | from the project root | 00:06 |
| waynr | do I have to do that whenever I make a change to the source? | 00:07 |
| jeblair | (or 'pip install -e .' ~= 'python setup.py develop') | 00:07 |
| waynr | yay | 00:07 |
| jroll | ++ | 00:07 |
| waynr | hmm, my other subcommand is still missing... | 00:07 |
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| waynr | this would be much easier to seek help for if it were open source | 00:12 |
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| waynr | hmm stevedore may be silently catching exceptions that would otherwise be helpful here | 00:14 |
| anteaya | yeah twin peaks made no sense in the 90s either, there were just a lot of people who were talking about it then | 00:15 |
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| fungi | david lynch's production style is to bombard the audience with bizarre, distracting and unrelated details so as to make it more challenging to pick up on the bizarre, distracting but slightly relevant details | 00:16 |
| anteaya | its a style | 00:17 |
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| anteaya | director's have very odd styles | 00:18 |
| anteaya | the difference between a talented director and a wandering homeless person is the first assistant director | 00:18 |
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| anteaya | if you get one that can translate their random mumblings to the crew so we can set a shot, you're golden | 00:18 |
| waynr | yep, stevedore is definitely hiding import related exceptions when it loads extension modules | 00:20 |
| lifeless | waynr: it may be pkg_resources doing the catching | 00:21 |
| lifeless | waynr: stevedore builds heavily on that | 00:21 |
| waynr | good point | 00:22 |
| jroll | waynr: what are you using to load the extensions? ExtensionManager? | 00:22 |
| waynr | well I found the problem in module imported by my extension module I was attempting to import something not in my requirements.txt so when I blew away my virtualenv earlier today working on another problem i lost the thing that was no longer in my requirements.txt | 00:23 |
| jroll | waynr: look at on_load_failure_callback, may be useful to you http://docs.openstack.org/developer/stevedore/managers.html#extensionmanager | 00:23 |
| waynr | jroll: yeah | 00:23 |
| waynr | oh cool, thanks jroll++ | 00:24 |
| waynr | actually just everyone++, y'all are very helpful | 00:24 |
| jroll | :) | 00:24 |
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| waynr | i should probably invest an hour or two setting up unit tests for this project | 00:25 |
| anteaya | waynr: lifeless just offered a patch to the infra manual about setting up unit tests | 00:26 |
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| anteaya | waynr: if you felt like following the instructions your feedback on the patch would be helpful | 00:27 |
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| anteaya | waynr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228647/ | 00:27 |
| waynr | cool, would this cover the steps necessary to set up unit testing similar to what is in JJB? | 00:27 |
| waynr | I spent a good 30 minutes digging into JJB last week trying to understand exactly what is going on when I run tox | 00:28 |
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| anteaya | I am not sure what is in jjb so would have to look | 00:29 |
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| lifeless | waynr: anteaya: my patch was changing the docs for folk working on existing projects | 00:30 |
| lifeless | waynr: anteaya: cookiecutter is probably a better reference for folk setting up new projects | 00:30 |
| anteaya | lifeless: where does your patch say that? | 00:31 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: the content its altering is about that | 00:33 |
| anteaya | waynr: when you say unit testing similar to what is in jjb, do you mean python27 and 34 unit tests? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n5990 | 00:33 |
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| waynr | i mean tox -> testr -> subunit -> discover -> tests | 00:35 |
| anteaya | lifeless: I don't see anything in that file that says this is for established projects, new projects should use cookiecutter | 00:35 |
| waynr | being a relative python newbie I probably have the order of a couple of those wrong | 00:35 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: there's nothing in that file about setting up the boilerplate of tox.ini etc | 00:35 |
| lifeless | anteaya: I'm not sure what your point is tbh, if I'm wrong I'm wrong, shrug | 00:36 |
| anteaya | my point is I didn't know what you assumed I did | 00:36 |
| anteaya | so if you want it to be useful to me, being explicit is helpful | 00:36 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: I'm 100% lost here. | 00:38 |
| waynr | okay that's right, tox's 'runtests' action calls 'python setup.py testr...' which in turn appears to make several calls to 'python -m subunit.run discover...' | 00:38 |
| anteaya | lifeless: fine | 00:38 |
| lifeless | anteaya: I put a patch up when we noticed in #openstack-keystone that the developer manual didn't cover virtualenv | 00:38 |
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| lifeless | anteaya: you suggested that patch might be useful to waynr in setting up unit tests, and I offered you some information about my patch | 00:39 |
| waynr | i'll probably spend more time figuring out the significance of each piece of that callstack tonight or tomorrow morning | 00:39 |
| lifeless | anteaya: to say that I didn't think it was relevant to waynr | 00:39 |
| anteaya | well the title says get unit tests working | 00:39 |
| lifeless | anteaya: (for that task) | 00:39 |
| lifeless | anteaya: yes; in the context of the file its changing | 00:39 |
| anteaya | waynr: sorry I can't be of more help | 00:39 |
| anteaya | I'm suggesting context might be helpful here | 00:40 |
| jroll | waynr: this may help: https://github.com/openstack-dev/cookiecutter/tree/master/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.repo_name%7D%7D | 00:40 |
| waynr | anteaya: it's cool, i usually learn better when i have to dig into stuff like this myself | 00:40 |
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| anteaya | waynr: everyone has their own style, don't let me keep you from yours | 00:40 |
| jroll | waynr: that's a basic template for an openstack project, so it should have most of what you need to get unit test infrastructure working | 00:40 |
| waynr | cool | 00:40 |
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| nibalizer | can you make a paste with what you are trying to do? | 01:05 |
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| krotscheck | nibalizer: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474545/ | 01:16 |
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| anteaya | Piet_: did you ever get an answer to the question on this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224923/1 | 01:18 |
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| Piet_ | anteaya: I need to respond to the question of whether Hinnant is a member of the foundation. He is... | 01:25 |
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| Piet_ | anteaya: thanks for reminding me | 01:26 |
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| anteaya | Piet_: great thank you | 01:28 |
| anteaya | Piet_: are you planning on being available for the tc meeting tomorrow? | 01:29 |
| anteaya | Piet_: it is helpful if you are there to answer questions if any arise while the patch is discussed | 01:29 |
| anteaya | Piet_: it is on tomorrow's tc meeting agenda | 01:29 |
| Piet_ | anteaya: I can attend | 01:30 |
| anteaya | Piet_: great | 01:30 |
| Piet_ | BTW - I'm starting to revisit asking the infra team to host an open source survey tool for the OpenStack UX team | 01:32 |
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| anteaya | revist asking? | 01:33 |
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| anteaya | have you asked before and you were turned down or folks didnt' understand the request? | 01:34 |
| anteaya | or you want infra to host a tool? | 01:34 |
| anteaya | wasnt' it limesearch? | 01:34 |
| anteaya | that isn't it apparently | 01:35 |
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| mikal | Oh hai. What git repo manages apache for docs.openstack.org? | 01:35 |
| anteaya | Piet_: what was the name of the tool we discussed at ops meetup | 01:35 |
| anteaya | static.openstack.org | 01:35 |
| anteaya | git repo is system config | 01:36 |
| mikal | anteaya: ta | 01:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding a meeting for OpenStack-UX WG with new day and time https://review.openstack.org/220211 | 01:36 |
| Piet_ | LimeSurvey, but investigating another os survey tool that might be a bit better. | 01:36 |
| anteaya | Piet_: ah that was it | 01:36 |
| anteaya | Piet_: cool, willing to share the name yet? | 01:36 |
| anteaya | limes apparently are open source fruit | 01:37 |
| Piet_ | http://www.kobotoolbox.org/ | 01:37 |
| Piet_ | "KoBoToolbox is a suite of tools for field data collection for use in challenging environments. Our software is free and open source. Most of our users are people working in humanitarian crises, as well as aid professionals and researchers working in developing countries. Our team of developers and researchers are based in Cambridge, MA, as well as Colorado, Canada, and Chile. " | 01:38 |
| anteaya | mikal: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/static.pp | 01:40 |
| mikal | anteaya: so, I'm trying to work out how we'd configure apache rewrite rules for docs.o.o | 01:41 |
| mikal | anteaya: I can see examples of CI things, so I know its possible | 01:41 |
| mikal | Actually, I should just flick pass this to the docs people | 01:42 |
| mikal | Instead of remembering how puppet works | 01:43 |
| anteaya | Piet_: this is the place of interest to me: js, shell, python, java: https://github.com/kobotoolbox | 01:43 |
| anteaya | mikal: can you share the long term view | 01:43 |
| anteaya | mikal: the thing that will happen if you can get apache rewrite rules figured out to your satisfaction | 01:44 |
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| Piet_ | anteaya: How does it look to you? Easy to deploy? | 01:44 |
| mikal | anteaya: oh, sure. Docs changed the format for the authoring of some of their stuff. Which I am fine with. That had the side effect of breaking the URLs for some docs so that bookmarks etc don't work. Which I am not fine with. So I want them to put redirects in from the old URLs to the new ones. | 01:45 |
| mikal | anteaya: this is prompted by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216122/1 | 01:45 |
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| anteaya | Piet_: well they focus on people who are in emergency situations with zero computer experience | 01:45 |
| Piet_ | anteaya: Still thinking about how to host data generated in other tools. I'm currently thinking of asking them to save the data as a CSV file and using a "dropbox" like repository to store them | 01:46 |
| anteaya | Piet_: so their suggested deployment is on a laptop in vagrant with virtualbox which we wouldn't do | 01:46 |
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| Piet_ | aneaya: bummer, deal breaker | 01:46 |
| anteaya | Piet_: this however seems to be what needs to be deployed and ti looks to me like a djano app: https://github.com/kobotoolbox/kobocat | 01:46 |
| anteaya | Piet_: no no no | 01:46 |
| anteaya | Piet_: just means taht they might have made decisions which we might actually be able to improve on | 01:47 |
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| anteaya | mikal: ah redirects | 01:47 |
| anteaya | mikal: redirects are a fun topic | 01:47 |
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| anteaya | mikal: yeah don't waste your time digging around in system config, chat with docs and find out what their understanding of redirects are currently | 01:49 |
| mikal | anteaya: yeah, 'zactly | 01:49 |
| anteaya | mikal: if they don't have one come back here and the next person who probably will be helpfful is ajeager | 01:49 |
| anteaya | who should be up and about in towards the late part of your day | 01:49 |
| anteaya | he likely knows the best approach to this | 01:50 |
| mikal | Yep | 01:50 |
| anteaya | Piet_: well with data storage think about how you want to consume it | 01:50 |
| mikal | Well, I've pingd my local docs cores, so let's see how they go first | 01:50 |
| mikal | I was trying to be helpful with some pointers, then I realized I'm not the right person to provide those pointers | 01:51 |
| anteaya | Piet_: do you want to search it, have a data dump, how do you want to digest and use the data | 01:51 |
| anteaya | Piet_: once you know how you want to consume the data, then make your decison about storage format | 01:51 |
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| anteaya | mikal: yup | 01:51 |
| anteaya | mikal: know your personal scope | 01:51 |
| anteaya | mikal: we tend to like databases in here | 01:52 |
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| anteaya | sorry that last was for Piet_ | 01:52 |
| Piet_ | anteaya: Let me think about it, but would imagine that it would simply be an area to archive study results (such as responses from surveys). My suspicion is that anyone wanting to do analysis with the data would #1 need approval and #2 download the CSV and use a spreadsheet or stat package to analyze it | 01:53 |
| anteaya | okay, lets look at how you want to analyse the data if that isn't jumping ahead to far | 01:54 |
| anteaya | I like to start with the end in mind | 01:54 |
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| anteaya | have you worked wtih any analyses tools that you really liked? | 01:55 |
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| Piet_ | For example, let's say that the foundation provides a CSV file with the results of the job analysis survey that was distributed abut a month ago. | 01:56 |
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| Piet_ | The OpenStack UX team is interested in using the data to conduct a cluster analysis to understand how the data groups. Essentially segmentation analysis that could serve as a basis for developing personas. | 01:57 |
| anteaya | great | 01:58 |
| anteaya | have you tools that provide those kinds of analyses? | 01:58 |
| anteaya | and kobotoolbox looks like an amazing project | 01:59 |
| Piet_ | The CSV file from the foundation would be store in hosted "dropbox" like tool | 01:59 |
| anteaya | in terms of their motivation for existance | 01:59 |
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| anteaya | Piet_: well we likely won't be doing that step | 01:59 |
| anteaya | Piet_: lets move onto the analysis part | 01:59 |
| Piet_ | I would likely download the file and provide it to a researcher like Melissa Meingast | 01:59 |
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| anteaya | oh you would hand it off to a person | 02:00 |
| Piet_ | At that point, Melissa would have some discretion in what tool she uses to analyze the data. I would guess that she would use SPSS | 02:00 |
| Piet_ | anteaya: yep | 02:01 |
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| anteaya | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSPP | 02:01 |
| anteaya | open source alternative | 02:02 |
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| anteaya | this tool can import a postgres database | 02:03 |
| Piet_ | Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't built on "R" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_(programming_language) | 02:03 |
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| anteaya | possibly | 02:03 |
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| anteaya | hmmmm: https://github.com/kobotoolbox/kobocat/blob/master/LICENSE | 02:06 |
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| anteaya | they said it was free and open source | 02:06 |
| anteaya | All rights reserved. | 02:06 |
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| Piet_ | Actually planning to download PSPP | 02:06 |
| Piet_ | k | 02:06 |
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| anteaya | Piet_: so we might have a stumbling block on kobotoolbox's choice of free and open source license | 02:06 |
| Piet_ | Funny, because it does seem like LimeSurvey is the most active opensource tool. Its just that the GUI kind of offends me | 02:07 |
| anteaya | well you being a ux person, I can accept that call on a tool | 02:07 |
| anteaya | their website talks about how open source their tool is | 02:08 |
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| anteaya | Piet_: let's come back to this tomorrow when others are around | 02:09 |
| anteaya | then we can also incorporate their thoughts on this | 02:09 |
| anteaya | Piet_: sound okay? | 02:09 |
| Piet_ | Yep | 02:09 |
| anteaya | thanks | 02:10 |
| Piet_ | Need to walk Waterbugs anyhow | 02:10 |
| anteaya | I hope we can find you a workflow you like | 02:10 |
| anteaya | yup | 02:10 |
| anteaya | I bet she is impatient | 02:10 |
| anteaya | tossing your end of the leash at you | 02:10 |
| Piet_ | Naw, she sleeps most of the day. I'm convinced that she can't really tell the difference between sleep and awake state | 02:11 |
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| anteaya | really? | 02:13 |
| anteaya | she convinced me that she could when I met her | 02:13 |
| anteaya | perhaps she puts on a good show | 02:13 |
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| tonyb | I'd like to help the UX team add logging to #openstack-ux. If I read http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html the channel needs to be active (Check) registered with infra having founder rights. I'm about to do that thin but I just wanted to check that it's fine for anywon to do it. | 03:06 |
| tonyb | note there is no need for meetbot on the channel they just want the logs to end up in eavesdrop.o.o/irclogs/#openstack-ux/ | 03:07 |
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| clarkb | tonyb to set those perms I think you need founder or at least op rights so anyone with that can. meetbot is the bot that provides logging | 03:08 |
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| tonyb | clarkb: okay currently the chaannel isn't registered at all (AFICT) so I shoudl be able to register it with chanserv. | 03:09 |
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| tonyb | clarkb: okay, I misunderstood the funcationality of meetbot. I really only meant that they (teh UX team) wont be holding offical meeatings in that channel. | 03:10 |
| * tonyb updates project-config to lookup the irc config ;P | 03:10 | |
| openstackgerrit | Clint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Alphabetize channels in channels.yaml https://review.openstack.org/228702 | 03:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml https://review.openstack.org/228656 | 03:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Timothy R. Chavez proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add timeout/retry to tools/apply-test.sh https://review.openstack.org/228703 | 03:13 |
| tonyb | clarkb: turns out it is registered | 03:13 |
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| Kennan2 | Ajaeger: there? | 03:45 |
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| Kennnan | hi clarkb: Ajaeger: I did not find python-jobs in layout.yaml | 03:46 |
| Kennnan | include gate-*-requirements job | 03:46 |
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| Kennnan | Ajaeger: I just find it. Thx | 03:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/226816 | 06:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Reindent swift3 consistently https://review.openstack.org/228653 | 06:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Use 'python-jobs' in oslo.rootwrap and remove overlap https://review.openstack.org/227578 | 06:13 |
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| * ruagair needs to log a bug or query against openstack-infra/puppet-phabricator - via story board or launchpad? | 06:39 | |
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| StevenK | ruagair: I'd suggest phabricator as a troll | 06:40 |
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| StevenK | ruagair: However, infra uses storyboard | 06:40 |
| nibalizer | story ya | 06:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update https://review.openstack.org/228745 | 06:45 |
| yolanda | morning | 06:45 |
| nibalizer | o/ | 06:45 |
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| ruagair | Thanks for the confirmation, StevenK, nibalizer | 06:49 |
| ruagair | morning yolanda | 06:49 |
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| waynr | odgrim: ping | 06:51 |
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| odgrim | hi | 06:52 |
| odgrim | waynr: I saw pelix earlier but he seemed tired. I agreed to wake up early tomorrow/tonight in an effort to figure out what we're doing | 06:53 |
| AJaeger | ianw: Could you review of https://review.openstack.org/228745, please? | 06:57 |
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| sirushti | Could a project-config core please redo WF+1 here -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220125/ It's affecting Heat's gate! | 07:01 |
| waynr | cool, was just working on some JJB stuff and thought i'd check in | 07:01 |
| AJaeger | sirushti: it's needs a rebase first... | 07:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adjust heat jobs to use ceilometer devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/220125 | 07:02 |
| waynr | not sure i'll be up early enough tomorrow, but i think i pretty much summed up my thoughts in that comment | 07:02 |
| AJaeger | sirushti: I'm on it | 07:02 |
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| sirushti | AJaeger, cool, thanks! | 07:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update https://review.openstack.org/228745 | 07:04 |
| AJaeger | sirushti: are you a heat core? | 07:06 |
| sirushti | AJaeger, nope | 07:06 |
| AJaeger | sirushti: ok, no worries | 07:06 |
| gmann | AJaeger: can you please have a look in free time - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221608/ | 07:06 |
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| AJaeger | gmann: that needs a QA/tempest review, let me add mtreinish to it. | 07:08 |
| AJaeger | ah, he's there already, please ask him whether he's fine, otherwise this won't merge... | 07:08 |
| gmann | AJaeger: sure | 07:08 |
| gmann | mtreinish: ^^ | 07:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jeepyb: Make SMTP connection configurable https://review.openstack.org/214733 | 07:08 |
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| ruagair | When you're about jeblair, mordred, you might be able to point this in the right direction: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000366 <- Thanks! | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Adjust heat jobs to use ceilometer devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/220125 | 07:15 |
| yolanda | jhesketh, i'm reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228703/1/tools/apply-test.sh , about zuul cloner timeouts. Do you think it's possible to add a timeout setting directly on zuul cloner instead? | 07:15 |
| StevenK | ruagair: The latter | 07:16 |
| StevenK | ruagair: IE, patch the migrator | 07:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update https://review.openstack.org/228745 | 07:17 |
| StevenK | Storyboard's SQL schema has moved on, the tool should keep up | 07:17 |
| ruagair | Ah, thanks StevenK. | 07:17 |
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| odgrim | waynr: yep, we'll figure something out. your three use cases are currently the 3 laws of deleting/updating jjb jobs | 07:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here https://review.openstack.org/111011 | 08:09 |
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| gmann | dizquierdo: ping | 08:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Maty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new Openstack project https://review.openstack.org/228781 | 08:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here https://review.openstack.org/111011 | 08:28 |
| dizquierdo | gmann, pong and I still owe you the repo staff u_u | 08:29 |
| dizquierdo | I was yesterday updating the list of repos | 08:29 |
| gmann | dizquierdo: :) yea i pinged regarding the same | 08:29 |
| gmann | dizquierdo: ohk cool. | 08:29 |
| dizquierdo | ei gmann just a reminder, the repo you were interested in | 08:29 |
| dizquierdo | was the governance one? | 08:29 |
| gmann | dizquierdo: yea, congress http://governance.openstack.org/reference/projects/congress.html | 08:31 |
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| dizquierdo | yeah, that was, thanks for the reminder gmann | 08:34 |
| dizquierdo | that's already in the loop, it was not previously analyzed | 08:35 |
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| gmann | dizquierdo: ok. Thanks | 08:42 |
| dizquierdo | thanks for the ping gmann | 08:42 |
| gmann | dizquierdo: np! Thanks for your time. looking for process of updating the same :) | 08:43 |
| dizquierdo | yep | 08:43 |
| dizquierdo | btw gmann attending the summit? | 08:43 |
| dizquierdo | I'll be around just in case you liked to talk a bit more about the activity board | 08:44 |
| gmann | dizquierdo: yea, m in Tokyo itself :) | 08:44 |
| dizquierdo | ah great :) | 08:44 |
| dizquierdo | ^^ | 08:44 |
| gmann | dizquierdo: sure that will be great | 08:44 |
| dizquierdo | ok, keep in touch then :) | 08:44 |
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| gmann | dizquierdo: sure, see you in summit | 08:44 |
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| mgrosz | Hello, I am adding a new OpenStack project, named Vitrage. I am in a point I need to contact one of the OpenStack Infra team (according to the instractions here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html) | 10:59 |
| yolanda | hi mgrosz | 11:00 |
| mgrosz | Hi | 11:00 |
| yolanda | how can i help? | 11:00 |
| mgrosz | I see my patch has successfuly passed Jenkins | 11:00 |
| mgrosz | Now what? | 11:00 |
| mgrosz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228835/ | 11:00 |
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| yolanda | we need to review your patch | 11:01 |
| yolanda | once it gets a pair of +2, and it's approved, project will be created | 11:01 |
| mgrosz | OK. This is something that happens when? | 11:01 |
| yolanda | during these days, are cores are reviewing that | 11:01 |
| mgrosz | OK, thanks. | 11:02 |
| yolanda | have you created a change for the governance project as well? | 11:02 |
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| yolanda | mgrosz, i see your change updates some config about switf here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228835/1/gerritbot/channels.yaml | 11:04 |
| yolanda | can you check it? | 11:04 |
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| mgrosz | checking | 11:06 |
| mgrosz | "have you created a change for the governance project as well? " - what do you mean? | 11:07 |
| yolanda | look at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html - Add new repository to the Governance Repository | 11:07 |
| mgrosz | Regarding swift - I didn't change anything. I only added Vitrage project channel. I don't know from where the changes of swift are coming. | 11:08 |
| yolanda | seems like a bad rebase, can you check? | 11:08 |
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| mgrosz | "f your project is not intended to be an official OpenStack project" - we don't know yet. It is optional. | 11:09 |
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| mgrosz | How do I fix, if I need to fix it? | 11:09 |
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| yolanda | ok, if that's not official is fine | 11:10 |
| yolanda | and for the swift , amend the change, be sure that you are not adding these extra spaces | 11:10 |
| jhesketh | yolanda: re zuul cloner.. yes, totally.. and it probably should be a feature... how does it currently fail (if you know) | 11:10 |
| yolanda | jhesketh, we had a problem downstream, let me check if i can find the logs | 11:11 |
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| yolanda | jhesketh, i don't have exact logs, but problems were on zuul-cloner timing out when cloning some repos. I guess network was slow, zuul-cloner was taking so much time to clone, waiting until jenkins job ended for timeout | 11:17 |
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| jhesketh | hmm okay | 11:19 |
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| jhesketh | so the cloner just uses the python-git library.. I'm not sure when that times out. In general though, adding some wrapping for time outs could be useful | 11:20 |
| jhesketh | I suspect it should be quite high by default though | 11:20 |
| jhesketh | or be an arg you can set | 11:20 |
| yolanda | so timrc created that change on the test, i think it's better if that kind of wrapping is added to zuul cloner, with some args, yes | 11:21 |
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| mgrosz | yolanda: "can you describe a bit more the change, specially the devstack bits?" Can you explain what should I do? | 11:33 |
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| yolanda | mgrosz, i want to know why are you adding these devstack changes, for a project creation | 11:34 |
| yolanda | if that's intentional, i'd like to know the reason | 11:34 |
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| mgrosz | It is a decision made by our managers. We would like to initiate a new project to develop an engine for organizing, analyzing and expanding OpenStack alarms & events, yielding insights regarding the Root Cause of problems and deducing the existence of problems before they are directly detected. | 11:36 |
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| mgrosz | yolanda: It is a decision made by our managers. We would like to initiate a new project to develop an engine for organizing, analyzing and expanding OpenStack alarms & events, yielding insights regarding the Root Cause of problems and deducing the existence of problems before they are directly detected. | 11:37 |
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| yolanda | mm, i see you abandoned the change? | 11:38 |
| yolanda | so for that DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG change, if that's not directly related with the project creation, i'd prefer if you can send that on a different patch | 11:38 |
| mgrosz | Yes. I will push a new one, as was suggested by someone else (see comments) - without the erros | 11:38 |
| yolanda | ok | 11:39 |
| mgrosz | "you can send that on a different patch " - send what? | 11:39 |
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| yolanda | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228835/1/jenkins/jobs/heat.yaml | 11:39 |
| mgrosz | "hat DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG change" - what is this parameter? | 11:39 |
| yolanda | is that related to your project? | 11:39 |
| mgrosz | Will be removed in my new patch | 11:40 |
| yolanda | ok | 11:40 |
| mgrosz | It seems like I had a bad update... | 11:40 |
| yolanda | so seems you did a bad rebase, and some unrelated changes were added with your patch | 11:40 |
| mgrosz | Yes.... Won't be added in my new one | 11:40 |
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| yolanda | cool thx | 11:41 |
| bookwar | hi, all. we have functional tests for the project, which require PostgreSQL database to be available during test run. Is it possible to run those tests at Openstack Infra? Are there any examples how one can configure the DB before running the test? | 11:41 |
| mgrosz | yolanda, again: "can you describe a bit more the change, specially the devstack bits?" Can you explain what should I do? | 11:41 |
| mgrosz | What are devstack bits? | 11:41 |
| yolanda | nothing at this point, as you included that by error | 11:41 |
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| yolanda | i wanted that you explained the changes for DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG in your commit, but as it's a mistake, just ignore this... | 11:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new OpenStack project https://review.openstack.org/228860 | 11:45 |
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| mgrosz | yolanda, can you please check ? (sorry for the mess... it is my first time...O | 11:48 |
| yolanda | mgrosz, no problem | 11:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhu.rong proposed openstack/requirements: Update pep8 to 1.6.2 https://review.openstack.org/228727 | 11:50 |
| yolanda | mgrosz, i suggest that you clean your environment, before sending that. I see that the new patch is depending on an abandoned one, so it can cause problems to merge it | 11:51 |
| yolanda | if you can resend, cleaning up that dependency, it will be ok | 11:51 |
| yolanda | mm, i also see you are missing more things again, i see changes on oslo now | 11:51 |
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| yolanda | i suggest you completely remove your branch where you have this project,and start from scratch | 11:52 |
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| mgrosz | yolanda: I am asked to send a complete new change. I thought I did it, but then I see that me change has dependency on old abandoned (by me) change. How do I send my changes in a whole new change/patch? | 12:01 |
| mgrosz | me changes = my changes | 12:01 |
| yolanda | i'd just remove the folder where you are working on | 12:01 |
| yolanda | clone again | 12:01 |
| yolanda | and reproduce it | 12:01 |
| mgrosz | ??? | 12:01 |
| mgrosz | sorry... Did you mean clone again the project? | 12:02 |
| yolanda | so remove your local folder where you are working on, and clone again from scratch, so you start without conflicts | 12:02 |
| yolanda | yes | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new OpenStack project https://review.openstack.org/228869 | 12:28 |
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| mgrosz | yolanda: I have a question regarding groups I defined in the acls/vitrage.config file: vitrage-core and vitrage-release. | 12:31 |
| mgrosz | Where do I define those groups? | 12:31 |
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| mgrosz | Are these launchpad groups? | 12:31 |
| yolanda | those are gerrit groups, will be created automatically once your change lands | 12:32 |
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| mgrosz | And when do I add their members? | 12:33 |
| yolanda | if you are the owner of this project, we will add you as group member as well | 12:33 |
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| mgrosz | Will it be possible to change it later? | 12:33 |
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| yolanda | the group name? | 12:35 |
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| mgrosz | No, the memebers of the groups and its owner | 12:36 |
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| mgrosz | yolanda: what does it mean in vitrage.config jenkins failure: There are 1 projects not normalized. | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Added npm-publish-tarball https://review.openstack.org/212153 | 12:45 |
| yolanda | it's failing the acl check | 12:45 |
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| yolanda | mgrosz, if you look at openstack-infra/projec-config repo, in tools/normalize_acl.py, you can find the guidelines for the acl normalization | 12:47 |
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| yolanda | mgrosz, i think that it fails because you added an extra newline at the end of the vitrage.config file | 12:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Maty Grosz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Changes: Vitrage - Initialize new OpenStack project https://review.openstack.org/228886 | 13:00 |
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| e0ne | hi all! could anybody please review https://review.openstack.org/221399? it will unblock rally+cinder jobs | 13:23 |
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| openstack | bug 1500615 in devstack "Large Ops scenario is taking too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500615 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 13:26 |
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| sdague | e0ne: what's the timeframe for rally actually supporting that? Because it's not clear those test jobs are valuable if that whole stack is being deleted by cinder | 13:39 |
| sdague | it seems like the better option is to turn off those tests | 13:39 |
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| e0ne | sdague: at the moment, rally supports only api v1 which is disabled by default | 13:40 |
| sdague | right | 13:40 |
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| sdague | and v1 is going to be deleted soon, so I don't understand the value in testing it | 13:40 |
| sdague | it was disabled by default to get people to stop using it in tests | 13:40 |
| clarkb | bookwar see the nova unittests, postgres is available and used there. as ana ltrrnative you can have devstack install postgres instead of mysql | 13:40 |
| e0ne | it will be deleted not earlier than in N release | 13:40 |
| clarkb | bookwar really depends on what "functional" testing entails for you | 13:41 |
| e0ne | sdague: agree. but we need some more time for rally to support both versions | 13:41 |
| sdague | e0ne: sure, but what is the value of these tests running on code that's marked for deletion | 13:41 |
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| sdague | basically, it's not clear to me why this is valuable given that it's not testing the thing that we want people using. And any regressions caught will probably not be cared about by the core team | 13:41 |
| e0ne | sdague: tbh, almost all cinder coder are shared beteen v1 and v2 | 13:42 |
| bookwar | clarkb: thanks, i'll take a look | 13:42 |
| sdague | e0ne: ok | 13:42 |
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| e0ne | sdague: thanks a lot! | 13:43 |
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| fungi | ttx: 201693 needs workflow +1 toggled before it will merge | 13:50 |
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| pabelanger | yolanda: At this time, I don't see a need to delete or disable the cache for grafyaml. Mostly because we don't for JJB | 13:53 |
| yolanda | there are flags in jjb to ignore cache | 13:53 |
| pabelanger | however, if you think it will be needed I can do a follow up patch | 13:53 |
| pabelanger | really? | 13:53 |
| pabelanger | Hmm, let me check | 13:53 |
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| pabelanger | Well, look at that | 13:54 |
| pabelanger | okay | 13:54 |
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| pabelanger | missed that | 13:54 |
| nibalizer | morning everyone | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Danilo Ramalho proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Setup preconditions for acceptance tests. https://review.openstack.org/219400 | 13:54 |
| bltavares | morning nibalizer (: | 13:54 |
| yolanda | pabelanger, jjb is my old friend :) | 13:55 |
| ttx | fungi: done | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Test formatting of gerritbot/channels.yaml https://review.openstack.org/228656 | 13:57 |
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| fungi | ttx: should i update the topic on 227894 to formal-vote or is that just administrivia? | 13:58 |
| pabelanger | nibalizer: timeshifting? | 13:58 |
| ttx | fungi: no formal vote required, will approve after one week if no objection | 13:59 |
| nibalizer | pabelanger: an early work/travel day today | 13:59 |
| fungi | ttx: thanks, just making sure | 13:59 |
| pabelanger | nibalizer: Ah | 14:00 |
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| fungi | ttx: 213806 is another governance change in need of a workflow toggle | 14:13 |
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| ttx | fungi: done | 14:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/requirements: Require ovs >= 2.4.0. https://review.openstack.org/228883 | 14:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-testr: Fix issues with the blacklist file regex generation https://review.openstack.org/218527 | 14:21 |
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| fungi | clarkb: do you have a moment to give 228805 a once-over before we approve? | 14:22 |
| fungi | there is now a stable/liberty branched from the same commit as the master branch tip | 14:23 |
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| mrmartin | nibalizer, hi, https://github.com/puppet-community/puppet-git_resource/pull/16 this pull request solves a commit refresh event issue which is required for askbot.o.o upgrade. if you have a few minutes today, plz check and merge itt. | 14:25 |
| mrmartin | itt / it | 14:25 |
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| clarkb | fungi looking | 14:26 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks, the release managers are preparing to open master for new changes so approve at will | 14:27 |
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| clarkb | ok | 14:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create tempest-plugin-cookiecutter project https://review.openstack.org/208389 | 14:28 |
| clarkb | we should follow up with a change to add some of those jobs to d-g and tempest | 14:28 |
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| clarkb | and possibly remove juno? | 14:28 |
| maishsk | Good afternoon - is this the right place to ask about an OpenStack profile problem/question/issue? | 14:29 |
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| fungi | maishsk: what do you mean by "openstack profile"? | 14:29 |
| maishsk | https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/15265 | 14:29 |
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| maishsk | I am getting a 404 for some reason. | 14:30 |
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| fungi | maishsk: interesting, i get content at other profile pages, mine for example: https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/5479 | 14:31 |
| maishsk | fungi: so hence my question… ;) | 14:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Burroughs proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: fix regression in url handling https://review.openstack.org/228971 | 14:31 |
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| fungi | maishsk: we don't maintain that system, but you can open a bug report for it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+filebug and someone who does should hopefully be able to look into it | 14:32 |
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| maishsk | thanks fungi ! Will do | 14:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Disable requirements liberty/master cross-check https://review.openstack.org/228805 | 14:34 |
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| maishsk | fungi: so according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/1373101 - it seems that this could be the issue. | 14:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1373101 in openstack-org "Users valdez and gutierrez are not Individual members of Foundation" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Stefano Maffulli (smaffulli) | 14:34 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: can you look at the rebase for this file: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208389/6/gerritbot/channels.yaml | 14:34 |
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| maishsk | But I definitely remember being a foundation member. | 14:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Burroughs proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: fix regression in url handling https://review.openstack.org/228971 | 14:34 |
| fungi | maishsk: oh, if user 15265 isn't a foundation individual member then that could be the cause | 14:35 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: Clint has been working on creating generated files for the big stackforge rename, and he has normalized the channels.yaml file regarding whitespace and alphabetization | 14:35 |
| fungi | maishsk: how long ago was that profile created? if it's been more than two years did you vote in the last two board elections? | 14:35 |
| maishsk | fungi: AFAIK I should be. | 14:35 |
| maishsk | I did, in both | 14:36 |
| fungi | maishsk: another possibility is that there were somehow two duplicate foundation member accounts and when they were deduplicated that's the one which was removed | 14:36 |
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| fungi | maishsk: is 15265 your account? | 14:36 |
| maishsk | I should hope so | 14:36 |
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| maishsk | THE OPENSTACK FOUNDATION INDIVIDUAL MEMBER AGREEMENT (Signed: January 15, 2014) | 14:36 |
| fungi | maishsk: i find http://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/26689 in the member directory. is that also you? | 14:37 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: did I screw up the rebase? | 14:37 |
| maishsk | That is me - why do I have two profiles? | 14:37 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227981/ | 14:38 |
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| mtreinish | oh, I see I added 2 spaces to the front of it | 14:38 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: yeah and the alphabetical order | 14:38 |
| boris-42 | sdague: the value of those tests is that people who want to test their cloud can test them with Rally | 14:38 |
| fungi | maishsk: it's possible you accidentally joined twice. i think the admins for the foundation member database go through periodically and merge duplicate accounts | 14:38 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: if you could be so kind | 14:38 |
| boris-42 | sdague: and most people is using cinder v1 | 14:38 |
| boris-42 | sdague: so we need to test v1 until people is using it | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create tempest-plugin-cookiecutter project https://review.openstack.org/208389 | 14:39 |
| Clint | anteaya: thanks | 14:39 |
| boris-42 | sdague: in any case we need to support tests for v2 as well (and that will be implemented as well) | 14:39 |
| anteaya | Clint: thanks for doing the work, yours is an unforgiving task | 14:39 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: ^^^ that should be better | 14:39 |
| anteaya | Clint: thanks for making progress | 14:39 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: thank you | 14:39 |
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| maishsk | fungi: Do I need to contact someone - I don’t want this to cause any potential problems with TC elections. | 14:40 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: 'tis, thank you | 14:41 |
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| fungi | maishsk: the bug reporting interface i directed you to... i recommend opening a bug mentioning your broken profile id number and the working one we found and asking to have it corrected back to the original profile. if you mention the bug number in here once it's filed i can separately ping the admins for that system through other channels and try to bring it to their attention | 14:43 |
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| clarkb | TC elections should be independent of your foundation profile right? | 14:44 |
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| clarkb | requires atc not foundation memberahip but maybe one implies the other | 14:44 |
| anteaya | clarkb: foundation membership only | 14:45 |
| anteaya | for tc elections | 14:45 |
| anteaya | atc status is not required to stand as a tc candidate | 14:45 |
| fungi | part of the definition in the bylaws for atc is that you are a foundation individual member, but the tc elections don't actually require you to be an atc to run (just to vote, strangely) | 14:45 |
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| clarkb | right to vote | 14:45 |
| fungi | however, yes they do say you need to be a foundation individual member to run for the tc, at least last i read | 14:46 |
| anteaya | yes | 14:46 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 14:46 |
| anteaya | I learned that when someone who was not an atc stood as candidate | 14:46 |
| fungi | and i'm assuming maishsk is asking because of planning to run for the tc again this cycle | 14:46 |
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| maishsk | fungi: That might be a correct assumption :) | 14:46 |
| anteaya | and went back to the by-laws to confirm and learned I had been wrong, then I coreected and posted to the mailing list so folks knew | 14:46 |
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| anteaya | notmyname: are you still interested in keeping this patch alive: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205723/1 | 14:47 |
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| fungi | mgagne: i see you haven't reviewed jenkins-job-builder changes in a very long time. are you expecting to start reviewing them again soon or should we retire your core reviewership on it for now? | 14:48 |
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| anteaya | gus dims so the blueprint has been merged for this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204477/ where are you on the reviews/rebase for it? | 14:50 |
| clarkb | so you may not be able to vote for yourself but you can run | 14:50 |
| clarkb | thats an odd setup | 14:50 |
| anteaya | clarkb: so says the by-laws | 14:50 |
| fungi | yeah, i think everyone finds it strange when they first realize that's what it actually says | 14:50 |
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| anteaya | SpamapS: did you want to reply to the comments on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211796/ | 14:51 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: do you know this person? are they willing to abandon this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204159/ | 14:53 |
| maishsk | fungi: Bug has been submitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/1500913. Thanks! | 14:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1500913 in openstack-org "Duplicate profile" [Undecided,New] | 14:53 |
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| anteaya | clarkb fungi if one of you has a moment to weigh in an a {} matter for a jjb builder macro: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212246/1 | 14:55 |
| anteaya | I do think the double {{}} are required but can't recall why | 14:55 |
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| fungi | anteaya: it depends on whether it's being expanded in the context of a job template or not and whether you want it to be treated as a jjb replacement parameter or a shell variable | 14:56 |
| anteaya | I thought that was what it was, thank you | 14:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Glauco Oliveira proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstack-health: Add provisioning scripts https://review.openstack.org/227849 | 14:57 |
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| EmilienM | nibalizer: puppet meeting, you wanna join? | 15:07 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: I think the live block migration test may have become a bit unstable | 15:12 |
| clarkb | mriedem: fails on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227542/ for example | 15:12 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, I will contact them | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | SergeyLukjanov: thank you | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project pymod2pkg to openstack-rpm-packaging channel https://review.openstack.org/228993 | 15:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project renderspec to openstack-rpm-packaging channel https://review.openstack.org/228994 | 15:14 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: the one mriedem just added to do the live migration with a volume backed server? | 15:14 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: oh, that's a fun failure: http://logs.openstack.org/42/227542/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/c03f51d/console.html#_2015-09-29_00_36_39_970 | 15:15 |
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| clarkb | mtreinish: no I think this is the existing test | 15:16 |
| mtreinish | a change in success code, tempest expected a 200 and it got a 202 from cinder | 15:16 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: block is the built into libvirt block by block migration from hypervisor to hypvisor | 15:16 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: which is in no one confusing with cinder block storage based volume migrations also being possible | 15:16 |
| clarkb | s/one/way/ | 15:17 |
| mtreinish | that failure I linked from the patch you mentioned was the new test which is cinder backed | 15:17 |
| clarkb | oh it is | 15:18 |
| clarkb | fun | 15:18 |
| clarkb | ok well the right people have eyes on it now then :) | 15:18 |
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| mtreinish | well, except I don't know why tempest is expecting a 200 and cinder is returning a 202 on create volume | 15:19 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: ^^^ any ideas? | 15:19 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: did we screw the pooch on v2? | 15:19 |
| mtreinish | oh, that would explain it | 15:19 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: given that v2 just landed as default in devstack the other day | 15:19 |
| mtreinish | yeah that's probably it | 15:20 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: Yup | 15:20 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: looking at the code the V2 api returns a 202 now :( | 15:20 |
| mtreinish | tempest thinks it's using v1 but it's actually using v2 | 15:20 |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: indeed | 15:21 |
| jgriffith | Surprised we haven't seen more of this sort of thing (good surprise) | 15:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/requirements: Require ovs >= 2.4.0. https://review.openstack.org/228883 | 15:21 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: you want me to push a patch to tempest? | 15:21 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: or do you have a version disco mechanism already? | 15:22 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: go for it, we don't have a generic mechanism in place yet | 15:22 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: cool, I'll take a shot at it | 15:23 |
| jgriffith | thanks | 15:23 |
| mtreinish | it's been 1 offs the couple of places where the api version doesn't matter | 15:23 |
| mtreinish | we probably should extract that at some point | 15:23 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: I'd like to capture that data | 15:23 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: so when people start flipping the bit in production we can help them | 15:23 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: maybe add it to docs | 15:23 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: the most recent I can think of was: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228881/ | 15:24 |
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| jgriffith | cool | 15:24 |
| clarkb | jeblair: 227542 succeeded on centos on the most recent run so Ithink that change is ready to go in and should make us ready for ovh | 15:25 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: the combined matrix of the 2 most recent runs is all green :) | 15:26 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: mtreinish and jgriffith seem to understand the mutlinode fails so not too worried about them | 15:27 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: just got back, but sounds like jgriffith has the fix | 15:27 |
| mriedem | what clarkb just said :) | 15:27 |
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| mriedem | i'll open a bug if no one has yet | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project pymod2pkg to openstack-rpm-packaging channel https://review.openstack.org/227891 | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project renderspec to openstack-rpm-packaging channel https://review.openstack.org/227892 | 15:28 |
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| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah, it's because the default cinder version endpoint in the sc changed to be v2. So when tempest makes a create volume request in that test it is expecting a v1 api response | 15:28 |
| mtreinish | but actually gets a v2, which is what is causing that failure | 15:28 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: mtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1500924 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1500924 in tempest "test_volume_backed_live_migration fails against cinder v2 API" [Undecided,New] | 15:28 |
| jeblair | clarkb: +2; i think we could +3 with the attention that's got, but not sure if you wanted any further review | 15:28 |
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| anteaya | fungi: thank you, I added a link to your original patch which discussed the double braces | 15:30 |
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| mriedem | mtreinish: shouldn't http://logs.openstack.org/42/227542/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-full/c03f51d/console.html#_2015-09-29_00_36_39_970 be in tempest.txt? | 15:31 |
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| mriedem | i guess it's a good thing that nova isn't checking the api response from cinder when creating a volume | 15:32 |
| mriedem | just polling for status | 15:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: would probably be good to get sdague to look at it and make sure it doesn't impact grenade in any way | 15:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: but that should be mostly 1:1 for the grenade case | 15:32 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: oh nice.. there's already the ability to specify a list of codes in the exepected_success method :) | 15:33 |
| jgriffith | That makes it easy | 15:33 |
| mtreinish | mriedem: it should be in there, there's something with the logging fixture so it doesn't end up in tempest.log | 15:33 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: yeah bug | 15:33 |
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| mtreinish | I never did get to the bottom of it | 15:33 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: i'll take 0 credit for that | 15:33 |
| jgriffith | mriedem: kudos!!! | 15:33 |
| jgriffith | :) | 15:33 |
| jeblair | Subject: ** WARNING: Filesystem on subunit2sql-MySQL ** | 15:33 |
| jeblair | WARNING - Less than 10% free space left. | 15:34 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: are there multiple response codes expected for a single versions? | 15:34 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: uh oh | 15:34 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: ^ | 15:34 |
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| mtreinish | s/jgriffith/jeblair | 15:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add caching support https://review.openstack.org/226002 | 15:34 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: well I guess it's time I revive: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/176564/ | 15:34 |
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| mtreinish | which was my idea for trimming the db size | 15:35 |
| mtreinish | although maybe if we had a way to archive the data that would be better before we pruned it | 15:35 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: there's no purging currently? | 15:35 |
| mtreinish | no | 15:35 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: ^ not able to disable the cache | 15:35 |
| pabelanger | err | 15:35 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: now* | 15:35 |
| mtreinish | which is why we're encroaching on 300GB used :) | 15:36 |
| sdague | clarkb: which thing is this? | 15:36 |
| yolanda | ah cool | 15:36 |
| jeblair | sdague: 227542 | 15:36 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: where are you on this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191247/ | 15:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227542/7 its specifically a work around for the OVH network situation | 15:36 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: test coverage too | 15:36 |
| yolanda | on a meeting in few minutes, i'll take a look later | 15:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: on OVH VMs get a single nic eth0 with ip addr like 10.0.1.25/32 and default route 10.1.25.1 dev eth0 | 15:36 |
| clarkb | sdague: when you run nova net against this it breaks connectivity when eth0's config is moved to br100 | 15:37 |
| sdague | hmmm | 15:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: (except not a 10.) | 15:37 |
| pabelanger | yolanda: ya, have to walk daughter to school so will be AFK too | 15:37 |
| clarkb | sdague: so the workaround is to not connect nova net to eth0 at all and use the overlay networking on single node as well | 15:37 |
| sdague | so, would it make sense to make devstack itself resilient to this? | 15:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: right it is a public IP | 15:37 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: i think we should probably have purging of some sort, and then of course we can size db appropriately | 15:37 |
| sdague | instead of overlay in d-g | 15:37 |
| yolanda | i'll take a look before infra meeting | 15:37 |
| pabelanger | timrc: did you get a chance to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226047/ ? | 15:37 |
| clarkb | sdague: long run yes it probably does make sense | 15:37 |
| pabelanger | that's the slug stuff | 15:38 |
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| timrc | pabelanger, I think I reviewed once, but not again. I'll do so now. | 15:38 |
| jeblair | sdague, clarkb: i agree this would be better in devstack in the long run (so that ./stack.sh works on an ovh instance) | 15:38 |
| sdague | clarkb: so there is only a single interface on the ovh nodes? | 15:39 |
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| jeblair | sdague, clarkb: but this seems like a reasonable short-term fix | 15:39 |
| clarkb | sdague: basically nova network does not know how to copy a default route specification that isn't in an overlapping ip range | 15:39 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: sure, that's what that patch does it purges data over 6 months old from the db | 15:39 |
| timrc | pabelanger, Ah good stuff you added the duplication detection. | 15:39 |
| clarkb | sdague: yes one interface | 15:39 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: yup | 15:39 |
| mtreinish | I was just wondering if we wanted to do something with the old data before we delete it | 15:39 |
| pabelanger | timrc: indeed | 15:39 |
| sdague | clarkb: so each node has a point to point link in it? | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql: Add cron job to run weekly prune the data set of db https://review.openstack.org/176564 | 15:40 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: ^^^ | 15:40 |
| sdague | so, I'm fine with this d-g change, I think it's fine | 15:40 |
| clarkb | sdague: the way I understand it they are forcing all traffic to happen over l3 | 15:40 |
| clarkb | sdague: proably because they have some sort of fun l2 isolation setup | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder v2 live migration bug 1500924 https://review.openstack.org/229012 | 15:40 |
| openstack | bug 1500924 in tempest "test_volume_backed_live_migration fails against cinder v2 API" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500924 - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith) | 15:40 |
| clarkb | so to enable VM to VM communication you hit the router rather than doing l2 traffic | 15:40 |
| jeblair | clarkb: which to be fair, is quite likely what you might end up doing anywhere else too :) | 15:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya its funky but not entirely unreasonable | 15:41 |
| sdague | clarkb: can pastebin the entire ip addr show / ip route show, just so I can have it in my head | 15:41 |
| sdague | I just +Aed the d-g change | 15:42 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ^ have a link to that etherpad handy? | 15:42 |
| clarkb | nevermind I found it | 15:42 |
| clarkb | sdague: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Nx3HWzyjIq | 15:42 |
| timrc | pabelanger, I don't see any fixture data that tests that duplicate exception codepath though.. | 15:42 |
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| clarkb | sdague: you wnat to look at the post devstack paste | 15:43 |
| jeblair | sdague: you'll want the "OVH" "post-boot" section | 15:43 |
| timrc | pabelanger, Oh maybe I should read all the test code first :) | 15:43 |
| mordred | clarkb, jeblair: that's close - still not there, but close | 15:43 |
| clarkb | and or post boot | 15:43 |
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| pabelanger | timrc: :) | 15:43 |
| Shrews | mordred: ooh, that's an exciting change | 15:43 |
| timrc | pabelanger, Reviewed. Very nice work | 15:44 |
| sdague | clarkb: so, this isn't a devstack thing | 15:44 |
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| mordred | clarkb, jeblair: I have 2 questions - a) it seems to still be hanging on a thread issue and I could use an extra eyeball b) I commented out one test that I wasn't sure the _best_ way to do and would love opinions | 15:44 |
| mordred | Shrews: ^^ you too | 15:44 |
| sdague | it's nova network that does that migration | 15:44 |
| mordred | Shrews: yes it it! | 15:44 |
| clarkb | sdague: yes | 15:44 |
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| jeblair | sdague: the tldr for devstack -> tempest is that nova-net is reponsible for creating the bridge, and will not do it because the router is not on the local network | 15:44 |
| Shrews | mordred: why 0.9.0? | 15:44 |
| sdague | ok, right | 15:44 |
| pabelanger | timrc: cool. stepping out. thanks | 15:44 |
| sdague | so it's really a nova-net fix | 15:44 |
| pabelanger | if any other infra-core wants to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226047 | 15:44 |
| mordred | Shrews: no reason. it should be 0.14.0. thanks | 15:44 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: wait, on that warning from rax is it the cinder volume that we're at <10% free on? | 15:45 |
| jeblair | sdague: arguably -- but dansmith was saying things like not wanting nova-net to do this sort of thing at all :) | 15:45 |
| pabelanger | should be ready to merge into grafyaml | 15:45 |
| pabelanger | AFK | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 15:45 |
| Shrews | mordred: though, we should really make a 0.15.0 release to fix that glance issue | 15:45 |
| Shrews | otherwise it probably won't work on HP | 15:45 |
| dansmith | jeblair: yeah, but not from the "likely to change at this point" perspective | 15:45 |
| Shrews | rcarrillocruz: have you had a chance to test the image stuff with the new shade? | 15:45 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: because I think we're only at like 235GB used: http://paste.openstack.org/show/474697/ | 15:46 |
| sdague | right, so we've actually generally been pushing back against neutron making devstack do a bunch of interface shuffle before it comes up, assuming it should know how to configure the interfaces. | 15:46 |
| dansmith | jeblair: sdague: if it's a small change to n-net's startup code, then that's cool, but accounting for every possible silly host network setup possibility doesn't seem worth it to me | 15:46 |
| rcarrillocruz | not yet, i've had an issue with our BM cloud, been doing redeploys the whole day | 15:46 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'll test later in the evening tho | 15:46 |
| rcarrillocruz | Shrews: ^ | 15:47 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: i guess there's another 30G in operating system + mysql overhead? | 15:47 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: well assuming stack overflow can be trusted for the statement to figure out how much data is used | 15:47 |
| mordred | oh! I think I see the issue | 15:47 |
| mordred | Shrews: ++ | 15:47 |
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| Shrews | rcarrillocruz: no worries. i think mordred could verify for us, too | 15:47 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: the alert from rax was for the trove instance | 15:47 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: but I would have expected that to be on the ephemeral disk, and isn't the actual db on a cinder volume | 15:47 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: trove is opaque to us | 15:48 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: right, so I'm wondering if the os and mysql overhead is filling up the image's disk | 15:48 |
| mtreinish | which wouldn't be good because trove is opaque to us | 15:48 |
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| clarkb | mordred: it looks like you have fake openstack cloud using the fake list now, did that correct a bunch of the hanging tests? | 15:49 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: i'll see if there's any additional info in the cloud panel thingy | 15:49 |
| mordred | clarkb: some - not all | 15:49 |
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| mordred | clarkb: still working through them - just found where one of them is going wrong | 15:49 |
| clarkb | mordred: ok, well at least I was semi on the right trackj there | 15:50 |
| mordred | yah | 15:50 |
| mordred | it's way helpful to squash | 15:50 |
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| jeblair | mordred: ++ (and i don't really want to review a complex temporary patch to fakes; swapping them out one api unit at a time seems good to me) | 15:50 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: i don't see any info about a separate system disk; only about the single "disk" that is 300G. it says it's using 265/300GB. | 15:52 |
| timrc | Was getting tired of Correct Horse Battery Staple | 15:52 |
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| jeblair | mordred: there's a button that says "Add Replica" | 15:52 |
| mtreinish | oh, ok I thought there was a cinder volume attached for the actual db | 15:53 |
| mtreinish | I guess it was just a 300gb system disk then | 15:53 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: i don't know how it works. | 15:53 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: it may or may not be a cinder volume. | 15:53 |
| mtreinish | no it was just my misunderstanding | 15:53 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: it's opaque to us. | 15:53 |
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| jeblair | mordred: do you want me to look at your patch, or are you fixing something? | 15:54 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm fixing something | 15:54 |
| mordred | jeblair: lemme fix it before you start looking | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use Cinder API v1 for Rally tests https://review.openstack.org/221399 | 15:55 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: ok well the prune patch is up, that should definitely cleanup a bunch of space | 15:56 |
| * mtreinish notes next time to not use trove | 15:56 | |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher Aedo proposed openstack-infra/puppet-apps_site: Add SSL support for apps.openstack.org. https://review.openstack.org/226984 | 15:56 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: why not use trove? | 15:57 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: it's opaque to us | 15:57 |
| mtreinish | it's caused issues in the past | 15:58 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: i don't think it's causing an issue now. | 15:58 |
| mtreinish | and I'd rather just know what's going on | 15:58 |
| pelix | zaro: you about? | 15:58 |
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| jeblair | mtreinish: we've certainly had issues with it, but once we found out we needed to change some of the insane defaults, it seems to be working well enough. | 15:58 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: no not now, but there were some configuration issues a few months ago with the partition table | 15:58 |
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| mtreinish | and we couldnt change that conf value without knowing the partition table of the system | 16:00 |
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| BobBall | /j #openstack-meeting | 16:00 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: this isn't ringing a bell, but i'd like to know more. can you point me at something? | 16:01 |
| BobBall | soz :) | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder v2 live migration bug 1500924 https://review.openstack.org/229012 | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add documentation for third-party-ci setup https://review.openstack.org/227584 | 16:01 |
| openstack | bug 1500924 in tempest "test_volume_backed_live_migration fails against cinder v2 API" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500924 - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith) | 16:01 |
| JeanFred | Hi folks. I trust this is the right place for JJB-related issues ? | 16:01 |
| clarkb | JeanFred: yup | 16:01 |
| JeanFred | Thanks clarkb :) | 16:02 |
| pleia2 | good morning | 16:02 |
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| mordred | jeblair: ok. that's working better now - it's now worth looking at | 16:03 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: it was the temp dir, when I added a migration to add a couple columns for a larger table it errored out saying insufficient space | 16:03 |
| Shrews | mordred: my -1 from the last revision still needs addressed | 16:03 |
| mtreinish | jeblair: we had to work around it with manually writing the sql to not use alter table | 16:03 |
| mordred | Shrews: awesome. I will address it | 16:03 |
| JeanFred | Since today I’m having trouble updating my jobs to my Jenkins instance. It fails in mutate_plugin_info, while trying to parse plugin version numbers, with TypeError: expected string or buffer. | 16:04 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/subunit2sql/commit/?id=86b867521ec085a81dd95760ccd4800939bcd502 | 16:04 |
| JeanFred | (I’m not exactly sure what might be the cause since (shame on me) JJB was not pinned in my tox file.) | 16:04 |
| clarkb | JeanFred: I know zaro did a python-jenkins release yesterday it is possible that is related. Can you check what version of python-jenkins you ahve installed? use `pip freeze | grep jenkins` | 16:04 |
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| clarkb | JeanFred: if you have the latest version installed you might try downgrading python-jenkins to the previous version and testing that, if it works we can bisect further | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 16:05 |
| JeanFred | clarkb: Right, I did not think of python-jenkins. Looks like I’m running 0.4.9 | 16:05 |
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| clarkb | JeanFred: that is the latest version try pip install -U python-jenkins==0.4.8 | 16:06 |
| clarkb | zaro: ^ btw this may interest you | 16:06 |
| clarkb | JeanFred: and ya if that works its just a matter of bisecting to figure out what changed and broke | 16:07 |
| jeblair | mtreinish: thanks | 16:07 |
| jeblair | mordred: ack | 16:08 |
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| mordred | jeblair: found one more issue ... | 16:08 |
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| mordred | k. now I'm going to work on packing so will stop pushing revw | 16:08 |
| jeblair | mordred: packing suggests that you unpacked at some point... :) | 16:09 |
| mgagne | fungi: you can remove myself from the core team. I'll win my way back in if I start to review again. ty | 16:10 |
| fungi | mgagne: appreciated! i'm in the process of updating the core review group there for improved throughput. you're of course welcome back any time | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/os-testr: Add whitelist file support https://review.openstack.org/216911 | 16:12 |
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| JeanFred | clarkb: Pinning to python-jenkins==0.4.8 works like a charm. Thanks | 16:16 |
| clarkb | zaro: ^ so new release broke something | 16:16 |
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| anteaya | so it looks like rain here and I would like to get a walk in before the meetings begin | 16:18 |
| anteaya | back in a while | 16:18 |
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| zaro | morning | 16:22 |
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| zaro | pelix, clarkb : looks like revert is in order? it's definately from this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154316/ | 16:23 |
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| clarkb | zaro: or fix jjb and add a min version to jjb | 16:24 |
| zaro | or fix i guess | 16:24 |
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| zaro | anteaya: sorry i didn't mean to ignore you. i was thinking about your proposal from yesterday. ping me when you are back. | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/os-testr: Add whitelist file support https://review.openstack.org/216911 | 16:26 |
| anteaya | zaro: actually the rain started as soon as I stood up to go out | 16:27 |
| jeblair | mordred: two things: first -- i left questions on the change wondering why the qcow format stuff was removed. | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | zaro: so no I didn't feel you were ignoring me, but thanks for confirming that, I just felt you had other things on your mind | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | zaro: so great, thank you, let's discuss | 16:27 |
| anteaya | zaro: how would you like to proceed | 16:27 |
| jeblair | mordred, clarkb: second -- it looks like the test you had problems with was related to a thing we do with ProxyErrors. in nodepool, if an api call returns a requests..ProxyError, we make a new client connection and immediately retry the request; if we get a second ProxyError, we bubble it up (which probably means evuntally deleting instances, etc) | 16:28 |
| fungi | hashar: pelix: zaro: waynr: zxiiro: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-September/003238.html for formal announcement of jjb-core updates | 16:28 |
| pelix | zaro: sorry what have I missed that the change broke? | 16:29 |
| clarkb | jeblair: right that was to deal with hpclouds proxies iirc | 16:29 |
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| hashar-meeting | fungi: will read. Thanks for the ping | 16:29 |
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| jeblair | mordred, clarkb: i believe that shade will be handling that in the future; though i see no special handling of ProxyError in shade, so i assume it will be caught by a general handler and masked into an OpenStackCloudException | 16:29 |
| zaro | pelix: maybe JeanFred can fill you in? | 16:30 |
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| jeblair | mordred, clarkb: at any rate, i sort of think that the responsibility for handling that has moved from nodepool to shade... | 16:30 |
| clarkb | jeblair: agreed | 16:30 |
| pelix | what's mutate_plugin_info from? | 16:30 |
| zxiiro | fungi: thanks! | 16:30 |
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| jeblair | mordred, clarkb: it probably isn't _actually_ handled in shade in the same way it's handled in nodepool now; but maybe we just go with it and see where we need to improve shade if it comes up? | 16:31 |
| clarkb | jeblair: wfm | 16:31 |
| fungi | jeblair: any warnings i should be aware of before running the maintain-infra-groups.py script? | 16:32 |
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| fungi | i've reviewed it so i don't think there are any surprises lurking, but it's light on comments | 16:32 |
| pelix | JeanFred zaro: I'll have a quick look to see if it can be fixed, otherwise yes revert and release | 16:32 |
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| jeblair | fungi: i don't see any outstanding changes to it in my queue, so i think all my fixes have merged; so nope! and good luck! | 16:32 |
| zaro | zxiiro: ^ we have a jjb regression | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-testr: Add whitelist file support https://review.openstack.org/216911 | 16:33 |
| fungi | thanks jeblair | 16:33 |
| zxiiro | zaro: thanks for the heads up | 16:34 |
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| pelix | zaro: maybe we should look at adding a job to python-jenkins to test JJB with latest python-jenkins for the check/gate | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for largeops bug 1500615 https://review.openstack.org/228895 | 16:35 |
| openstack | bug 1500615 in devstack "Large Ops scenario is taking too long" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500615 - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 16:35 |
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| anteaya | zaro: have you time now or would you prefer to talk later? | 16:36 |
| zaro | pelix: hmm, good idea... zxiiro, you interested? | 16:36 |
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| zaro | zxiiro: haha, jk :) | 16:36 |
| zxiiro | zaro: I'm actually on holidays until OpenStack Summit ;) | 16:36 |
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| zxiiro | zaro: In Denver at the moment | 16:37 |
| zaro | good times for you... vacation now and after summit? what a life! | 16:37 |
| kiran-r | sdague: SergeyLukjanov: Please review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221399/ | 16:38 |
| zxiiro | haha yeah, I kinda didn't use any PTO for awhile so had quite a few saved up. I have to use them before I lose them so I just did. | 16:38 |
| zaro | anteaya: i'm going to look into the broken jjb right now. can i get back with you in a little bit? | 16:38 |
| anteaya | zaro: sure the rain has stopped, I'll take my walk now, and ping you when I return | 16:38 |
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| anteaya | zaro: thanks | 16:38 |
| kiran-r | sdague, SergeyLukjanov: The above patch was already approved but it failed merge. Please review it ASAP. | 16:39 |
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| SpamapS | anteaya: I do want to get rustygear in there, but it has dropped low on priority. I promise I'll revisit once I stop dealing with employer-change-churn | 16:40 |
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| pelix | zaro: I think the problem is that PluginVersion class doesn't subclass a string class | 16:42 |
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| zaro | pelix: i assume you are able to repro? | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Use Cinder API v1 for Rally tests https://review.openstack.org/221399 | 16:45 |
| zaro | pelix: looking now | 16:46 |
| pelix | yeap, could solve the problem by always requiring classes that use the plugin version to explicitly convert to a string, or alternatively change get_plugins_info() to use the old method so it doesn't even rely on it being transparent, use the old API to get the json just converted to a dict, use the new API that will convert part of the data to use the plugin helpers | 16:47 |
| pelix | I think probably better to switch get_plugins_info and get_plugin_info back to it's their behaviour instead of having them call 'get_plugins()' | 16:47 |
| pelix | that'll fix the regression | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: osops-tools-generic: add bashate job https://review.openstack.org/229043 | 16:47 |
| pelix | unless there is a way to subclass str that is both python 2 & 3 compatible? | 16:48 |
| fungi | pelix: i think six.stringtype might be subclassable for that? i haven't tried though | 16:48 |
| pabelanger | fungi: nice email to ML, I was considering doing the same for grafyaml | 16:51 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: if there are core reviewer team changes you need made to openstack-infra/grafyaml let me know, though that one's likely a bit more malleable due to its relative youth | 16:52 |
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| waynr | fungi: cool, thanks for the ping on that | 16:53 |
| zaro | pelix: i'm fine with your suggestions to switch methods back then try fungi's suggestion afterwards. | 16:53 |
| pabelanger | fungi: I vote timrc be added :) Assuming he wants it | 16:53 |
| fungi | pabelanger: timrc: cool, i'll have a look though it may not be until tonight/tomorrow since it's meetings-day | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint Adams proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: tracking of priority efforts in YAML https://review.openstack.org/219372 | 16:55 |
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| waynr | pelix, zaro are ya'll talking about python-jenkins 0.4.9 breaking JJB? | 16:56 |
| timrc | fungi, Fine by me. | 16:56 |
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| zaro | waynr: yes | 16:56 |
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| timrc | pabelanger, I'd love to help out with reviews and hopefully improvements too. | 16:56 |
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| waynr | I ran into that yesterday and pinned to 0.4.8 in my experimental copy of JJB but was deluged by meetings and asynch requests from product dev so I forgot about it until now | 16:57 |
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| JeanFred | zaro pelix Was AFK. Thanks for looking! | 16:59 |
| AJaeger | pleia2, clarkb, anteaya: Could either of you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228745/ , please? It's another liberty translation enablement - and has already one +2. | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Harney proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add dsvm-full-lio to os-brick jobs https://review.openstack.org/223258 | 17:00 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: looking | 17:00 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb! | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: that is an easy one approved | 17:01 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: could you abandon https://review.openstack.org/228125 , please? After a cleanup patch went in, this one is not needed anymore - it's a proposal bot translation import. | 17:02 |
| odgrim | pelix waynr: if you're not putting out any fires what do you think of the delete-unmanaged changeset and flow? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221145/ | 17:02 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: And proposal bot will not propose a new version since there are no new translations right now... | 17:03 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: are we not going to get an updated patch tonight/today? | 17:03 |
| clarkb | ah ok | 17:03 |
| odgrim | I think the change covers everything except renames of identical jobs | 17:03 |
| pelix | zaro: turns out simply having PluginVersion subclass str is sufficient and appears to work on 2.7 and 3.4 (JJB is working on 2.7 with it, tests pass on both, would need a real test on python 3.4 to confirm though) | 17:03 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: we didn't get one this morning - and I assume we won't get one in the next few weeks... | 17:03 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: done | 17:04 |
| AJaeger | thanks for both, clarkb! | 17:04 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya and that particular change is just metdata | 17:04 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yep | 17:04 |
| waynr | odgrim: as I mentioned in-line, I am generally in favor of it but it doesn't quite meet my needs (it doesn't offer a way to distinguish between the different cases I mentioned) and I'm not sure what can be done to make it meet my needs since some of the distinctions I mentioned require human intervention in PR/patchset testing on our config repository | 17:04 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: in general we are in good shape for translations though right? the jobs are working (with new cleanups) and projects are getting the changes pushed to the right branches? | 17:05 |
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| zaro | pelix: let me give 3.4 a try | 17:05 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, everything green as far as I can see. | 17:05 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: great | 17:05 |
| pelix | zaro: looks to be working as well | 17:05 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:zanata/translations,n,z contains current open reviews... | 17:05 |
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| pelix | or at least it didn't blow up in the mutate_plugins function :D | 17:06 |
| waynr | pelix: I haven't had a chance to serious dig into the python-jenkins 0.4.9 problem but subclassing str sounds like a simple and appropriate solution | 17:06 |
| * AJaeger is currently pinging projects to get these in to keep master and liberty close together... | 17:06 | |
| zaro | pelix: ohh, what else were you looking for then? | 17:06 |
| pabelanger | timrc: yolanda: this one is pretty trivial too. Adds missing grafyaml requirement, and test coverage. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226986 | 17:06 |
| pelix | zaro: wasn't sure we'd fixed all the python 3 issues :p | 17:06 |
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| odgrim | waynr: any ideas? I can start doing a pretty expensive crawl of xml trees and diffing them if 1c is super important | 17:06 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: and looks like -2 on stable until they are ready to merge those items | 17:07 |
| waynr | also I originally wrote the mutate_plugins function, if I remember correctly the goal was primarily to make the returned plugins_info data structure a dictionary indexed by plugin name | 17:07 |
| odgrim | we offload our history from jenkins and treat jenkins itself as relatively disposable in comparison to the log and artifact stores | 17:07 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: -2 from ttx until RC2 opens - and those get daily updates, so imports work fine... | 17:07 |
| pelix | zaro: worked for tests, but just don't usually run JJB with python 3 to check if everything works | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Prevent overwriting of user modified blacklist.conf https://review.openstack.org/220883 | 17:07 |
| pelix | zaro: ok, looks like JJB still needs a few fixes for python 3, but unrelated to this issue | 17:08 |
| waynr | odgrim: I don't think that's necessary, I have a set of tools that wrap around JJB currently to help integrate with the way we organize config files--the delete functionality for us really belongs there | 17:08 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: awesome, I wonder if maybe we should make it run less often than daily if the process is to -2 up front | 17:08 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: the nice thing about daily though is we can ctch errors early | 17:08 |
| zaro | pelix: push up to gerrit and i can help do some further testing if needed. | 17:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed stackforge/python-jenkins: Use str as base class for PluginVersion https://review.openstack.org/229051 | 17:09 |
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| pelix | zaro: ^^ :) | 17:09 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: daily gives release managers the chance to import it whenever they want ;) | 17:09 |
| AJaeger | otherwise, we might need to switch to "ondemand" ;) | 17:10 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya | 17:10 |
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| AJaeger | right now they can do it without pinging us ;) | 17:10 |
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| pelix | zaro: unfortunately our tests for JJB don't exercise python-jenkins in a way that would have caught this issue. Seems like we need a functional test of some kind just to help shake out unexpected issues | 17:11 |
| odgrim | waynr: since I'm already adding another xml tree (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225562/5/jenkins_jobs/modules/general.py) what if we tag'd each job with a unique id and start differentiating jobs by that instead of by name? That should potentially get us a way to rename/update job names instead of flush the whole job and rebuild | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Translations Liberty: Project update https://review.openstack.org/228745 | 17:15 |
| waynr | odgrim: I considered using some kind of UUID, but how would JJB know when a job name it hasn't seen before is supposed to be associated with a particular UUID belonging to a job it has seen? | 17:15 |
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| waynr | in other words, when JJB generates a new job that it hasn't seen I would expect that to be the point at which it assigns a UUID | 17:16 |
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| odgrim | waynr: maybe generate the xml tree, take out the name attribute and them checksum the rest of the tree? | 17:16 |
| odgrim | do you ever have a job that is exactly identical but under 2 different names | 17:17 |
| odgrim | ? | 17:17 |
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| waynr | maybe, but there is no guarantee outside of strong develop/review/merge discipline that there would not be xml tree changes | 17:18 |
| clarkb | odgrim: is there a benefit to renaming jobs in jenkins over delete add? | 17:18 |
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| clarkb | I am not sure that ends up being any quicker due to api | 17:18 |
| odgrim | clarkb: waynr has a use case of trying to preserve history :P | 17:18 |
| clarkb | the history is in your git repo | 17:18 |
| clarkb | not in jenkins | 17:18 |
| waynr | clarkb: preserving history in a pure Jenkins infrastructure where there is no external log | 17:18 |
| waynr | preserving job history, that is | 17:18 |
| odgrim | he means the actual build log, not the job change log | 17:19 |
| zaro | pelix: looks like jjb doesn't seem to work with py34 at all. | 17:19 |
| odgrim | yeah | 17:19 |
| clarkb | oh we turn that off because it doesn't work | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | (I highly recommend turning it off) | 17:19 |
| odgrim | ^ I do too XD | 17:19 |
| alivigni | pelix# zxiiro could you look at this review please? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222690/ | 17:19 |
| odgrim | but some definitely use it | 17:19 |
| waynr | yeah our team is just slammed trying to keep up with product dev--we hope to move to storing logs and build artifacts outside of Jenkins in the future, we just haven't had time to design that in a way that would not lead to some kind of tech debt | 17:20 |
| odgrim | at my old job where we didn't have all this external log/artifact store a job history purge would have been devastating | 17:20 |
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| clarkb | the issue is it makes jenkins stop running | 17:21 |
| zaro | pelix: with test command http://paste.openstack.org/show/474712/ | 17:21 |
| clarkb | doing it that way literally doses the server with itself | 17:21 |
| clarkb | which isn't practical in any situation | 17:21 |
| odgrim | could be worse | 17:21 |
| waynr | clarkb: what makes jenkins stop running? | 17:21 |
| waynr | preseving build logs? | 17:22 |
| zaro | pelix: with update command http://paste.openstack.org/show/474713/ | 17:22 |
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| waynr | we only preserve a limited number of logs but they are still important for the time that we do have them | 17:22 |
| clarkb | waynr: there are two problems, one is just filesystem limits iirc. Jenkins easily goes over limits for things like files in a dir | 17:22 |
| zaro | pelix: that is with PluginVersion(str) and those worked with py27 just fine. | 17:22 |
| clarkb | waynr: the other is jenkins loads every single xml file on start and when you open a job and when you do things like that | 17:23 |
| clarkb | waynr: this effectively kills the server any time it happens once you have enough data stored in it | 17:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add reno for release notes https://review.openstack.org/226560 | 17:23 |
| waynr | clarkb: yeah we use the workspace cleanup plugin, we also don't keep history for job config changes | 17:23 |
| clarkb | its not the config changes or the workspaces | 17:23 |
| clarkb | its the logs | 17:23 |
| clarkb | they are stored in an encoded format and have to be read and rendered in order to give you stats and green/red balls | 17:24 |
| clarkb | and jenkins does that on demand without caching iirc | 17:24 |
| waynr | i found that the JJB run time was steadily increasing as the number of config changes increased (hence the limit) | 17:24 |
| waynr | ah, I see what you're saying | 17:24 |
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| odgrim | ^ I got around that by federating jenkins (before we offloaded the logs/artifacts) | 17:24 |
| waynr | yeah we keep a limited number of builds and only for a limited time | 17:24 |
| odgrim | it was bad to have a single huge jenkins anyway… spof-mania | 17:25 |
| waynr | so we don't run into disk space issues | 17:25 |
| waynr | odgrim: federating how? | 17:25 |
| odgrim | not as fancy as you think, giving major product teams their own jenkins | 17:25 |
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| zxiiro | alivigni: looking | 17:26 |
| waynr | also in response to your comments about using a UUID, the only way I can think of doing that is to manually annotate all the JJB project, job-group, job-template with their own UUID...if left to JJB to annotate these things behind the scene I'm not sure how it would detect job-templates, job-groups, or projects that have simply been renamed | 17:26 |
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| mordred | jeblair: yes. I do not believe we specifically handle it - but I agree, it's a thing we should handle there | 17:27 |
| fungi | i going to step away for a quick lunch and then finish prepping for our meeting. back real soon | 17:27 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'll just remove that commented out test in the next rev | 17:27 |
| alivigni | zxiiro# thanks | 17:27 |
| waynr | giving major product teams their own jenkins is something I have considered but I'm not sure my team would be down for that...."more jenkii" is generally not considered a good answer to our current scaling problems | 17:28 |
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| * Zara sees discussion on ci-watch and thinks they should pick storyboard, but is, of course, biased :) | 17:29 | |
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| odgrim | waynr: eh, it's a team decision. It worked for our use case because different teams wanted different plugins/views etc and having them all smashed into one eventually led to conflicts of when/where to update what. | 17:30 |
| clarkb | we have 8 and use zuul + gearman to avoid sharding on teams | 17:30 |
| clarkb | its a little more complicated but has scaled well beyond what jenkins alone can do | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add cisco-ironic-contrib project https://review.openstack.org/229060 | 17:31 |
| waynr | clarkb: yeah i've set up a proof of concept of zuul + gearman, helped get github triggers partially implemented in zuul, haven't had a chance to demo it to my team yet | 17:32 |
| mordred | waynr: I keep meaning to go circle back and poke at your patches | 17:33 |
| odgrim | waynr: at the end of the day, if we can get a uuid that successfully fulfills your use case of moving jobs, that would do it? | 17:33 |
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| odgrim | waynr: ie, what do you think needs to happen for these 2 patches to get rolled in? | 17:34 |
| zxiiro | alivigni: looks like I already gave that a +1. The highest vote I can do at the moment. | 17:34 |
| zaro | zxiiro: you should be able to do better now | 17:34 |
| waynr | odgrim: yeah, I'm definitely interested in that. again, i'm not opposed to the current delete_unmanaged feature as it stands | 17:34 |
| zxiiro | zaro: Strange. When I checked earlier I did have +2. but looks like I'm back to only +1. | 17:35 |
| odgrim | waynr: what about the matching "is_unmanaged" feature that went along with it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225562/ | 17:35 |
| odgrim | it was technically an existing bug I found so I opened a different patch | 17:36 |
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| zaro | zxiiro: try going back to 0 then re-review | 17:36 |
| odgrim | or rather, khai found it because of my changes :P | 17:36 |
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| alivigni | zxiiro# thanks how many +1s do you need? | 17:36 |
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| zxiiro | zaro: ok let me try... | 17:36 |
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| notmyname | anteaya: oh yeah. patch 205723. I should look at that again. thanks for bringing it up | 17:37 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205723/ - update swift tests | 17:37 |
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| zxiiro | zaro: yep that was it. I guess it doesn't update my permissions for changes I already voted for until I reset it? | 17:37 |
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| zaro | i guess so, just found that out myself. | 17:37 |
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| zxiiro | alivigni: you need 2x +2s before your patch can be merged. +1s don't have any weight on enabling the merge. | 17:38 |
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| zaro | zxiiro: you forgot the workflow+1 | 17:38 |
| zxiiro | zaro: so do I just click +1 workflow when I'm the 2nd +2? or is there a process for the workflow vote? | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Setup multinode interfaces on singlenode n-net https://review.openstack.org/227542 | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project pymod2pkg to Packaging-RPM team https://review.openstack.org/227891 | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Jakub Ruzicka proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new project renderspec to Packaging-RPM team https://review.openstack.org/227892 | 17:39 |
| alivigni | zxiiro# ok looks like Thanh just gave us one +2 | 17:39 |
| zxiiro | alivigni: that's me ;) | 17:39 |
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| waynr | odgrim: looks interesting, i'll try to review more in-depth but am kinda slammed at the moment with email and planned work--I will add it to my list of things to review before bed tonight | 17:39 |
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| zaro | you need 2x +2 and workflow+1 then merge happens automatically, that is unless there's a conflict | 17:40 |
| odgrim | waynr: thanks! I'll see if I can scrounge up more reviews. Anyone else I should ask | 17:40 |
| odgrim | ? | 17:40 |
| waynr | zxiiro, pelix, zaro, are all core reviewers for JJB | 17:40 |
| alivigni | zxiiro# looks like we are all set thanks! | 17:40 |
| waynr | there's also Antoine but I'm not sure what his IRC nick is | 17:41 |
| zaro | odgrim: /me is khai | 17:41 |
| odgrim | hi O_o | 17:41 |
| waynr | odgrim: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/194,members | 17:41 |
| zaro | waynr: that would be hashar | 17:42 |
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| odgrim | thanks, still building a mapping of reviewers to irc handles | 17:42 |
| odgrim | but it looks like half of you outed yourselves in just the last 4 minutes | 17:42 |
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| zxiiro | odgrim: I only got core reviewer powers a few hours ago | 17:43 |
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| zaro | ohh yeah, ask zxiiro first. | 17:43 |
| odgrim | flood the new guy? ok | 17:44 |
| pelix | odgrim: so for the is_unmanaged feature, I think supporting the magic string as well as your new XML attribute and emit a warning if the MAGIC string is found but the XML attribute is missing will alleviate most concerns. As long as most people don't run a 'delete old' before running an update we'd be fine, but it'd be better to support both initially | 17:44 |
| odgrim | zxiiro: what do you think of this change to fix is_managed? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225562/ | 17:44 |
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| zxiiro | odgrim: I need to step out for lunch but I can take a look if you link me to review | 17:45 |
| zxiiro | odgrim: ah ok saved | 17:45 |
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| jeblair | mordred: cool, thanks for answering my questions. i think i'm all set on 226751, though i left a minor housekeeping note for you. | 17:45 |
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| odgrim | pelix: I think I got it in patch 5, I made the current is_managed a is_legacy_managed and used both in the "delete_old_managed" function to figure out what is what | 17:45 |
| patchbot | odgrim: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5/ - Fix problem with jenkins known_hosts url. | 17:45 |
| zaro | odgrim: might want to take it easy on him this week. he claims to be on vacation. | 17:45 |
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| pelix | odgrim: ah, didn't spot that, and I suspect zaro didn't either | 17:46 |
| pelix | :p | 17:46 |
| zaro | pelix: i tried jjb with py24 and python-jenkins 0.4.8 and seems like lots of things not working. i didn't even realize that. really need to figure out how to add those extra func test. | 17:46 |
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| pelix | py24 or py34? | 17:47 |
| zaro | oops py24 | 17:47 |
| zaro | oops py34 | 17:47 |
| pelix | hehe, i'd expect a lot of breakage for py24 :p | 17:47 |
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| pelix | zaro: I think the combination of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183939/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172238/ (after rebasing) will fix py34 | 17:48 |
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| pelix | odgrim: looks like that second change so only needs an excess whitespace fix up and to also update the default job description | 17:49 |
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| zaro | pelix: ok lets merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229051 ? then i'll look into those changes to fix jjb for py34. | 17:49 |
| odgrim | pelix: deal, I'll have it in for you tonight when i get back home | 17:50 |
| pelix | sounds good | 17:50 |
| nibalizer | fungi: can you look at 191247, if you like my response I'll rebase it | 17:50 |
| anteaya | notmyname: thanks I don't think patchbot will go over well in here | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add control over more settings of github pull request builder plugin https://review.openstack.org/222690 | 17:51 |
| anteaya | notmyname: we tend to refer to patchs by the number and don't tend to want the link | 17:51 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: already merged 228745 | 17:52 |
| anteaya | SpamapS: very good thank you | 17:52 |
| anteaya | zaro: back and ready when you are | 17:52 |
| AJaeger | thanks anteaya for looking! Yes, clarkb was faster | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Wrap file objects with codecs to handle unicode https://review.openstack.org/183939 | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix Builder.update_job() on Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/172238 | 17:52 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: he's like that :) | 17:53 |
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| pelix | zaro: so back to the change around delete unmanaged, first question is, do you agree it would help if JJB could distinguish between obsolete jobs (previously managed by JJB) and manually created/managed jobs (via Jenkins UI)? | 17:54 |
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| zaro | yes | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Jerry Zhao proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-fortinet project to neutron https://review.openstack.org/219055 | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable Python 3X jobs for python-tripleoclient https://review.openstack.org/228855 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Distinguish kept jobs and unmanaged jobs when skipping removal https://review.openstack.org/225778 | 17:57 |
| notmyname | anteaya: ok. I can make patchbot leave. personally I find patch numbers alone very hard to work with | 17:57 |
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| mordred | anteaya: I actually value links not numbers | 17:57 |
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| mordred | which is not to say that we should keep it or not - just registering that I have a different personal preference | 17:58 |
| anteaya | mordred: oh I had felt that jeblair fungi and clarkb prefer the numbers | 17:58 |
| mordred | they may | 17:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add nova v20 jobs as experimental in Tempest gate https://review.openstack.org/221608 | 17:58 |
| anteaya | mordred: sure and thought you also did | 17:58 |
| mordred | but I prefer links | 17:58 |
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| notmyname | mordred: can we start a ML thread about links vs numbers? | 17:58 |
| mordred | notmyname: only ifwe can argue about periods in it | 17:58 |
| anteaya | notmyname: perhaps you could ask fungi clarkb and jeblair and see what they like | 17:58 |
| anteaya | it is just we have quite a bit of traffic in here already | 17:59 |
| anteaya | and new additions should be felt as being additions is all | 17:59 |
| mordred | I feel likeI missed an earlier part of this conversation | 17:59 |
| notmyname | anteaya: I have zero stake in in. I only made patchbot join because I was about to refer to a patch ;-) | 17:59 |
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| anteaya | mordred: thank you for sharing your thoughts, now I know | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Danilo Ramalho proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add acceptance tests for puppet-jenkins. https://review.openstack.org/220228 | 17:59 |
| anteaya | notmyname: yeah I know I saw the conversation 2 weeks ago in -qa when mtreinish asked who owned it | 17:59 |
| anteaya | mordred: that was the earlier part of the conversation, I knew why john created it | 18:00 |
| notmyname | anteaya: he just didn't want the response to "logs not available for 1234,2,5678" | 18:00 |
| anteaya | since he said so in -qa | 18:00 |
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| anteaya | notmyname: makes sense | 18:00 |
| notmyname | no to me ;-) | 18:00 |
| jeblair | i would prefer not to have patchbot in here | 18:00 |
| notmyname | jeblair: it's not (anymore) | 18:00 |
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| jeblair | i personally can deal with either links or number | 18:01 |
| jeblair | s | 18:01 |
| jeblair | (gertty takes both as input :) | 18:01 |
| jeblair | (and produces both as output) | 18:01 |
| zaro | pelix: was there a 2nd question? | 18:01 |
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| pelix | yes :), sorry got distracted | 18:02 |
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| pelix | question two, any thoughts on how we name the options so they are clear without breaking existing behaviour as to he intent of the different '--delete-*' options | 18:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/python-jenkins: Use str as base class for PluginVersion https://review.openstack.org/229051 | 18:03 |
| pelix | question three, should we be adding these options to the 'delete' commands as well as the 'update' command? | 18:03 |
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| zaro | i can't think of better names than delete-old and delete-unmanaged atm | 18:05 |
| zaro | i think it would make sense to add them to the 'delete' as a way to deprecate them from 'update' command. | 18:06 |
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| pelix | so have the delete operation always separate from the update operation? | 18:07 |
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| zaro | that makes way more sense to me. allows users to script them independently and would make code easier to manage i think. | 18:07 |
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| clarkb | all jenkins masters look good this morning | 18:09 |
| zaro | clarkb: you mean all green balls? | 18:10 |
| anteaya | the zuul status bingo machine | 18:10 |
| clarkb | zaro: no thread leaks | 18:10 |
| clarkb | zaro: I have been checking every morning to run that utility script through its paces | 18:10 |
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| mordred | Shrews: interesting: http://logs.openstack.org/51/226751/14/check/gate-dsvm-nodepool/d920f0b/logs/screen-nodepool.txt.gz#_2015-09-29_16_45_04_126 | 18:13 |
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| zaro | JeanFred, pelix: python-jenkins 0.4.9.1 release should be available soon. | 18:16 |
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| clarkb | zaro: you can't use that version | 18:16 |
| pelix | yay! | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 18:16 |
| clarkb | zaro: it needs to be 0.4.10 | 18:16 |
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| mordred | Shrews: nevermind. it was another instance of "we didn't return the openstack_vars" | 18:17 |
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| pelix | clarkb: limit on 3 digits for version? | 18:17 |
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| zaro | clarkb: really? is that a pypi thing? | 18:17 |
| clarkb | pelix: yes, because semver | 18:17 |
| clarkb | zaro: no its a pbr thing | 18:17 |
| clarkb | and I think you all use pbr now | 18:17 |
| zaro | ok. let me try again. | 18:17 |
| clarkb | zaro: well double check that 0.4.9.1 didn't work first | 18:17 |
| clarkb | but pretty sure it will not run jobs properly and won't publish because pbr | 18:18 |
| pelix | @zaro maybe we should have released the previous one as 0.5.0 so? | 18:18 |
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| zaro | pelix: why? | 18:18 |
| pelix | so that we have the easy way to distinguish when releasing subsequent bugfixes | 18:19 |
| pelix | in the cases were something broke | 18:19 |
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| zaro | how is that different from 0.4.x? | 18:19 |
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| SotK | asselin: Hey, so mostly I was wondering what features of Launchpad that are missing from StoryBoard affected the choice between the two the most (other than the planned end of StoryBoard, since AIUI the goal of that is to move everything to Maniphest/Phabricator)? | 18:20 |
| pelix | no indication that we added new functionality | 18:20 |
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| zaro | do you mean release with major number? like 1.x.x? | 18:20 |
| * SotK would like to know where would be most useful to be focussing development | 18:20 | |
| zaro | then we can do 1.0.1 ? | 18:20 |
| pelix | 0.4.8 -> 0.4.9 suggests bugfix in semver, however we included new functionality, one of which caused an issue. | 18:21 |
| zaro | and rev middle digit for feature? | 18:21 |
| pelix | yeah, it doesn't matter now, can think about it for future releases | 18:21 |
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| clarkb | first digit is for incompatible release, middle is for new features, last is for fixes | 18:21 |
| pelix | go with 0.4.10 ;) | 18:21 |
| asselin | SotK, krotscheck I believe was the last core of storybaord. I also remember reading a spec about migrating to a new solution I need to find the link | 18:22 |
| fungi | nibalizer: i already +2'd the earlier patchset. jeblair was the one who asked about combining with puppet-syntax | 18:22 |
| krotscheck | asselin: NikitaKonovalov and yolanda were also cores. | 18:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: Shrews that test uses vanilla neutron (its ovs ml2 plugin) with floating IPs | 18:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: yeah - that wasn't the problem - it was a programming error | 18:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for cinder v2 heat bug 1500780 https://review.openstack.org/229093 | 18:23 |
| mordred | asselin, SotK: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/maniphest.html | 18:23 |
| openstack | bug 1500780 in tempest "orchestration.stacks.test_volumes test is failing" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500780 - Assigned to Jordan Pittier (jordan-pittier) | 18:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: Shrews should behave very similarly to hpcloud (I decided to do floating IPs and neutron because we seem to have more problems with that setup than the default public ip networking options) | 18:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh ok | 18:23 |
| clarkb | mordred: that seems like shade is broken api then | 18:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: there is a design flaw we've found | 18:24 |
| clarkb | mordred: I mean if shades author can't remmeber when and where you need to convert types maye it should just do it | 18:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. this is agreed for sure | 18:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: the problem is that create/get server returns just the server dict - get_openstack_vars also adds the inferred/discovered information | 18:24 |
| mordred | clarkb: the clear solution is for create/get server commands to always add the inferred/discovred information | 18:25 |
| pc_m | ianw: ping | 18:25 |
| mordred | we just haven't done that yet - so for right now it's a 2-call sequence (which is stupid) | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Christian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: osops-tools-monitoring: add bashate job https://review.openstack.org/229094 | 18:25 |
| clarkb | mordred: and inferred/discovered data is things like "this is your public ip" ? | 18:25 |
| mordred | yes | 18:25 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 18:25 |
| fungi | clarkb: if memory serves, the issue with 4-component versions and pbr is that they get normalized to something different than the tag, so the pypi upload fails to find the right tarball | 18:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya | 18:25 |
| mordred | clarkb: it would be too much to ask for opensack to actually just, you know, tell you that informatoin | 18:25 |
| SotK | asselin: Indeed, Zara and I are cores for StoryBoard now | 18:26 |
| * Zara waves | 18:26 | |
| nibalizer | fungi: ah my bad | 18:27 |
| * mordred waves to Zara and SotK | 18:27 | |
| asselin | SotK, Zara hi | 18:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: I will have comments for latest patchset in a few | 18:27 |
| SotK | We hope to make it more useful whilst its still being used :) | 18:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: found at least one test bug | 18:27 |
| * mordred hands both of them the remainder of what was a tasty sandwhich | 18:27 | |
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| mordred | clarkb: awesome | 18:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: I have also changed the unittest so that it would have caught the ip bug | 18:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support lazy resolving of include yaml tags https://review.openstack.org/63580 | 18:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: cool | 18:27 |
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| zaro | clarkb, pelix yeah, it failed. will do 0.4.10 | 18:29 |
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| clarkb | mordred: why does the fake cloud preseed the image list if it is None? | 18:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: don't we want our tests to be populating that list? | 18:30 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh I guess that is a stand in for a cloud's base image? | 18:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: snapshot builders have to boot from existing images | 18:31 |
| mordred | yeah | 18:31 |
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| mordred | hrm | 18:32 |
| mordred | Shrews, clarkb: SO - there is a problem in always doing the network inferrence if we do not turn on shade's caching | 18:32 |
| mordred | which is that it takes several neutron calls to figure out what netwowork has the public addresses | 18:32 |
| mordred | with caching turned on - that should not be a problem | 18:33 |
| mordred | since the networks should pretty much never change | 18:33 |
| mordred | and it'll be a cost spent once | 18:33 |
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| clarkb | mordred: but all the necessary data is in the nova host data | 18:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: unless I am mistaken | 18:33 |
| mordred | clarkb: that is completely untrue | 18:33 |
| mordred | clarkb: for the general case, it is not possible to know which network is public without querying neutron for the data | 18:34 |
| clarkb | what do you need to know? ipv6 is always public. For ipv4 you either have one or two IPs | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added gitlab plugin https://review.openstack.org/211491 | 18:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Added gitlab plugin https://review.openstack.org/211491 | 18:34 |
| clarkb | if one then private == public | 18:34 |
| mordred | clarkb: I promise, it is more complex than that - it took us about a month to get it solid | 18:34 |
| clarkb | else if IP in private range then private else public | 18:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: its built into IP? | 18:34 |
| * fungi so wishes the "private" vs "public" distinction cold be replaced with something more accurate, but rfc-1918 said "private" and so it's all been downhill from there | 18:34 | |
| anteaya | why did openstackgerrit repeat itself? | 18:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: List conditions for trigger-parameterized-builds https://review.openstack.org/221197 | 18:35 |
| lifeless | fungi: lets all use TEST_1 | 18:35 |
| mordred | clarkb: no - becuase not everyon's "public" address is public (we have a concrete user in this setup, btw) | 18:35 |
| mordred | what you have to know is which neutron network is externally routable from the perspective of the cloud | 18:35 |
| mordred | that externally routable address could be a 1918 address - like it would be in a dvsm run | 18:35 |
| mordred | which is why querying the neutorn metadata about the network is necessary | 18:35 |
| mordred | which, as I mentioned, is not a problem if you can then cache what you have learned about the qualities of the networks that the server is connected to | 18:36 |
| fungi | in deference to the rfc editors at the ietf, i think the intent was "if you use these address blocks you can have a 'private' internet even though others might use the same blocks for theirs" (and had nothing to do with securing your network from the public at large) | 18:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: hrm | 18:36 |
| clarkb | ya I see what you are saying | 18:36 |
| Zara | asselin: hi :) yeah, it's useful to know what features launchpad currently offers that we don't yet have in storyboard. since at the moment, SotK and I are just focussing on the features that we're interested in, which is fun but might not be relevant to everyone who could potentially want to use it. | 18:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: I mean, easy solution is to just enable shade caching | 18:36 |
| clarkb | (this seems like a horribly broken network api) | 18:36 |
| mordred | I was just hoping we could test turning that on as a discreet step | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: support for the phabricator plugin https://review.openstack.org/215750 | 18:37 |
| clarkb | nova should just straight up tell you | 18:37 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes, I agree | 18:37 |
| clarkb | "This IP is publicly routable from the perspective of the cloud" | 18:37 |
| mordred | yup | 18:37 |
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| mordred | that would be awesome | 18:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/system-config: (WIP) Create playbook to puppet InfraCloud nodes https://review.openstack.org/209632 | 18:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: sure I am just saying we really should fix nova/neutron | 18:37 |
| mordred | but there are apparently "reasons" why that is not possible | 18:37 |
| fungi | s/publicly/globally/ | 18:37 |
| anteaya | no I think it is possible | 18:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: tahts bs | 18:37 |
| clarkb | add a new return field | 18:37 |
| anteaya | I think folks are thinking it is too much work is all | 18:38 |
| clarkb | public_ip: x.y.z.x | 18:38 |
| clarkb | its backward compat | 18:38 |
| mordred | ah - what anteaya said is probably a large part | 18:38 |
| clarkb | if you don't use it you are fine | 18:38 |
| clarkb | if you do use it ou win | 18:38 |
| clarkb | isn't this the whole point of microversions? | 18:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add new parameters to Build Blocker example / test. https://review.openstack.org/223240 | 18:38 |
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| mordred | sure. but I'm not going to wait on that to land in hp's public cloud ... | 18:38 |
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| clarkb | anyways comments soon | 18:38 |
| mordred | so for now we'll have to deal with caching - or come up with a different strategy - like perhaps passing in a public network uuid to the constructor that would cause the discovery work to short-circuit | 18:39 |
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| mordred | I'm about ot board flight - look forwad to comments, and I'll try to cook up some patches around dealing wiht the API cost soon too | 18:39 |
| clarkb | anteaya: too much work? this literally makes clouds uselss | 18:40 |
| anteaya | exactly | 18:40 |
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| fungi | making clouds useful _could_ be construed as "too much work" | 18:40 |
| clarkb | I don't want to sound like I am overly grumpy but seriously if this thing doesn't work then what are we doing | 18:40 |
| anteaya | which is why I don't hold with that opinion | 18:40 |
| anteaya | but I hear it | 18:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: exactly | 18:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I am right beside you on that one | 18:40 |
| clarkb | mordred: and you are sure that dib does the qemu thing now? I remember that was contentious in dib | 18:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: read shade.meta.get_server_external_ipv4 if you want a reminder on the whole story | 18:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. I am sure | 18:41 |
| fungi | i tend to agree that the scope of work for any software carries an inherent goal #0 of "also this thing should actually work" | 18:41 |
| mordred | clarkb: greghaynes can confirm, but I believe it landed many months ago | 18:41 |
| anteaya | clarkb: and I don't consider you stating the obvious to be indicative of you being anywhere on the grumpy scale | 18:41 |
| anteaya | clarkb: but firmly on the reality scale | 18:41 |
| greghaynes | hrm? | 18:41 |
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| mordred | but the thing is - even if we fix it in nova, we still have to deal with the existing clouds that tdo not have the fix | 18:41 |
| mordred | greghaynes: the qemu compat patch | 18:41 |
| greghaynes | the backwards compat qcow2s | 18:41 |
| anteaya | fungi: ha ha ha | 18:42 |
| mordred | yup | 18:42 |
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| greghaynes | we dont by default I think, much arguing | 18:42 |
| mordred | wait - what? | 18:42 |
| anteaya | fungi: perhaps we should be more explict | 18:42 |
| mordred | I thought that landed months aog | 18:42 |
| * mordred cries | 18:42 | |
| greghaynes | that patchhas been up a long time. maybe it did since I stopped looking | 18:42 |
| mordred | ok. I'll revert that part of the patch | 18:42 |
| clarkb | mordred: don't push a new patch yet | 18:42 |
| mordred | clarkb: I won't | 18:42 |
| clarkb | mordred: I am almost done I promise | 18:42 |
| mordred | I'm going to wait for your stuff | 18:42 |
| greghaynes | pretty sure it hasnt though | 18:42 |
| mordred | and now - I shall board | 18:43 |
| anteaya | mordred: safe fllight | 18:43 |
| Clint | all aboard | 18:43 |
| mordred | greghaynes: please tell someone that they are being evil for me | 18:43 |
| fungi | stand to and prepare to be boarded? | 18:43 |
| anteaya | wasn't that the other day? | 18:43 |
| greghaynes | yea :( | 18:43 |
| anteaya | and didn't we get a fairly decent mild response on that? | 18:43 |
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| anteaya | the history on the wikipage shows 50 edits in the last week | 18:45 |
| anteaya | nice emailing jeblair | 18:45 |
| zaro | anteaya: 15 mins before meeting | 18:45 |
| anteaya | zaro: yes | 18:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for Castellan https://review.openstack.org/229097 | 18:46 |
| anteaya | zaro: have we time to discuss or no? | 18:46 |
| zaro | anteaya: so i'm in favor of you idea to make the problem more known. | 18:46 |
| anteaya | zaro: great, thank you | 18:46 |
| anteaya | zaro: any thoughts on the process for doing so? | 18:46 |
| fungi | zaro: anteaya: should we discuss the gerrit upgrade in today's meeting? | 18:46 |
| anteaya | zaro: would you like to? | 18:46 |
| zaro | anteaya: sure, if time permits | 18:46 |
| fungi | as the chair, i can always squeeze it into the agenda | 18:46 |
| anteaya | I would | 18:46 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you | 18:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/requirements: Update pyngus to 2.0, now supports Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/225580 | 18:47 |
| zaro | cool | 18:47 |
| anteaya | zaro: let's get an etherpad going with links and context | 18:47 |
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| fungi | and the topic is important to me and presumably many others on the team | 18:47 |
| * fungi gets back to meeting prep | 18:47 | |
| anteaya | zaro: join me here? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/I0eV4IgkZS | 18:47 |
| mordred | fungi: I will be on a plane. my meeting attendance may be spotty | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for Castellan https://review.openstack.org/229097 | 18:48 |
| fungi | mordred: thanks. we do have logs if you need ;) | 18:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Skyler Berg proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ciwatch - CI monitoring tool https://review.openstack.org/216840 | 18:50 |
| clarkb | mordred: posted | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ari proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for Openshift3 plugin entry points in build steps and scm https://review.openstack.org/229100 | 18:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Skyler Berg proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ciwatch - CI monitoring tool https://review.openstack.org/216840 | 18:51 |
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| mordred | clarkb: thanks! | 18:51 |
| clarkb | mordred: the cover comment may also be interesting | 18:51 |
| mordred | nod | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ari proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in build https://review.openstack.org/229100 | 18:53 |
| morgan | sdague: have a question for you re: devstack gate. is it possible to export a specific environment value for config on stable/<specific stable> branches? | 18:53 |
| clarkb | morgan: you have to check the branch under test and write it out | 18:53 |
| morgan | sdague: it doesn't seem there is a clear way.. or is that like if [ "$BRANCH_OVERRIDE" != "default" ] ; then | 18:53 |
| clarkb | morgan: a bit more info on what you are trying to do might be helpful | 18:53 |
| morgan | clarkb: remove eventlet testing for keystone from mitaka (neutron gate job) | 18:54 |
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| morgan | but leave it for stable.* | 18:54 |
| morgan | well stable/liberty, stable/kilo | 18:54 |
| clarkb | morgan: you should do that in devstack not d-g | 18:54 |
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| clarkb | devstack is branched so you just stop configuring it the other way on master/mitaka | 18:54 |
| morgan | clarkb: uhm. it is a per-gate job config now | 18:54 |
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| morgan | oh | 18:55 |
| anteaya | zaro: do we have a link to Sasa's failed attempt to fix the issue? | 18:55 |
| morgan | just ignore the option? | 18:55 |
| morgan | make the toggle go away in devstack | 18:55 |
| morgan | i see. | 18:55 |
| clarkb | morgan: ya and stp running the eventlet jobs on master | 18:55 |
| morgan | then the neutron job can lose the config value one the line | 18:55 |
| morgan | eh, we can't stop running the job it's a neutron-full job | 18:55 |
| clarkb | oh its overloaded like that on postgres or something? | 18:55 |
| morgan | yeah | 18:55 |
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| clarkb | gotcha ya I would ignore the option then | 18:55 |
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| clarkb | and let it die on the vine | 18:55 |
| morgan | clarkb: ++ perfect | 18:55 |
| morgan | tyvm!! | 18:55 |
| zaro | anteaya: partially linked in the bug and here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/repo-discuss/CYYoHfDxCfA/MVZPKTM8RBoJ | 18:55 |
| clarkb | also I wonder if that is why neutron-full is slower? | 18:56 |
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| clarkb | will be interesting to see if that job speeds up a bit with wsgi | 18:56 |
| morgan | clarkb: ++ | 18:56 |
| jd__ | any pointer or how I can have something like governance.openstack.org processed and hosted on infra? | 18:57 |
| anteaya | zaro: sorry I am missing the link or reference | 18:57 |
| sdague | morgan: yeh, basically just remove the support from devstack for keystone-all I think | 18:57 |
| sdague | once we cut the branch | 18:57 |
| anteaya | jd__: do you mean published documents? | 18:57 |
| jd__ | anteaya: yes | 18:57 |
| anteaya | it is via the docs job | 18:57 |
| morgan | sdague: ++++ | 18:58 |
| anteaya | what do you want published and what url do you want it at? | 18:58 |
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| zaro | anteaya: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/68149/ | 18:58 |
| sdague | morgan: the branch cut is going to be tomorrow morning | 18:58 |
| asselin | Zara, hi, stepped away to get lunch. I'm not that familiar with what's missing in launchpad | 18:58 |
| mordred | Shrews: confirmed. shade patch fixes HP | 18:58 |
| Shrews | mordred: awesome | 18:58 |
| jd__ | anteaya: a job doc on gnocchi.xyz | 18:58 |
| anteaya | zaro: thank you | 18:58 |
| anteaya | jd__: oh I don't think we publish to anything except openstack.org domains | 18:59 |
| asselin | Zara, but I do konw that pagination support would be helpful. Last I checked you can't see stories after the first 100 | 18:59 |
| mtreinish | sdague, morgan: ooh, we're finally dropping the eventlet usage in keystone | 18:59 |
| morgan | mtreinish: that is the plan | 18:59 |
| anteaya | jd__: so you want to figure out how to get teh job to do that, hmmmm, I will have to continue after infra meeting, unless someone else jumps in | 18:59 |
| morgan | mtreinish: went through full deprecation cycles. but someone aparantly is begging we don't do it now | 18:59 |
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| morgan | mtreinish: so my first step is kill it in the gate | 19:00 |
| mtreinish | morgan: someone always will | 19:00 |
| jd__ | anteaya: you think or you're sure? :) | 19:00 |
| Zara | asselin: I believe SotK fixed that very recently! :) | 19:00 |
| fungi | meeting time! | 19:00 |
| anteaya | jd__: I think | 19:00 |
| anteaya | jd__: if someone else is sure, listen to them | 19:01 |
| asselin | Zara, cool I'll check it out! going to meeting now | 19:01 |
| jd__ | anteaya: ok :) | 19:01 |
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| sdague | morgan: who is begging for that, and why? | 19:01 |
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| Zara | asselin: no problem :) | 19:01 |
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| morgan | sdague: i'll find out shortly | 19:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Do not execute selinux commands if policy disabled https://review.openstack.org/214667 | 19:01 |
| sdague | the why is probably good to understand regardless | 19:02 |
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| sdague | because if the why is dev cycle time, the pbr wsgi_scripts bit makes that much better | 19:03 |
| morgan | sdague: yes. | 19:03 |
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| sdague | we should probably provide a devstack flag to run the wsgi processes directly under screen, for fast local dev | 19:03 |
| sdague | it's wsgiref, which means it's not going to stand up to anything beyond single request at a time, but for iterating, that should be fine | 19:04 |
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| morgan | sdague: that is my plan for uwsgi | 19:04 |
| morgan | sdague: actually | 19:04 |
| tristanC | anteaya: I've doubt now, TC candidate does not need to have contribution (commit), foundation membership is enough to be a TC candidate right ? | 19:04 |
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| sdague | ok, that works as well | 19:04 |
| morgan | sdague: but it's a bit of dev work out to finalize | 19:04 |
| morgan | sdague also it should stop the apache-didn't-cleanly-stop issue for keystone | 19:04 |
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| sdague | yeh, anyway, I trust your judgement there | 19:04 |
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| anteaya | tristanC: correct I will find the link to the email about that from last year | 19:05 |
| anteaya | tristanC: stand by | 19:05 |
| sdague | morgan: I thought that was solvable with a lock? | 19:05 |
| morgan | sdague: :) wsgiref is fine too if i can't get uwsgi to work (fall back plan) | 19:05 |
| anteaya | tristanC: best if you read for yourself in the by-laws I'll find you the link | 19:05 |
| morgan | sdague: uh. not really. | 19:05 |
| sdague | morgan: that's why I wrote the pbr wsgi_scripts that way | 19:05 |
| morgan | sdague: that is apache hanging onto connections and not exiting fast enough | 19:05 |
| sdague | so you could just run them on the command line | 19:05 |
| morgan | sdague: oh sure, that part | 19:05 |
| morgan | sdague: yes that is fine and is well thought out | 19:06 |
| tristanC | anteaya: the by-laws does not mention any actual commit to be required, however last elections we did checked for such commit so I guess this was not required afterall | 19:06 |
| sdague | so you could just run_process keystone-wsgi in devstack | 19:06 |
| morgan | the apache issue is apache getting bound up with connections and process management | 19:06 |
| sdague | for the dev case | 19:06 |
| sdague | morgan: yeh, right, that's a whole other can of worms | 19:06 |
| morgan | sdague: sure. my hope was to not recommend that for anyone :P because someone will try and do it in production | 19:06 |
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| anteaya | tristanC: it is in this email | 19:06 |
| anteaya | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048102.html | 19:06 |
| morgan | sdague: uwsgi would be "production"-able in either case | 19:07 |
| sdague | I think it screams a lot | 19:07 |
| morgan | sdague: but yes my fallback is what you just described | 19:07 |
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| tristanC | anteaya: awesome, thanks! | 19:07 |
| anteaya | tristanC: sorry it is the tc charter | 19:07 |
| morgan | sdague: ^_^ - and when has that stopped people from saying "oh it worked here *ignore warning*" :P | 19:07 |
| sdague | print("DANGER! For testing only, do not use in production") | 19:07 |
| anteaya | tristanC: correct the by-laws don't state anything | 19:07 |
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| morgan | sdague: but you're spot on in either case :) | 19:08 |
| sdague | :) | 19:08 |
| mtreinish | sdague: heh, how many places do we say that about devstack in general | 19:08 |
| sdague | sure, but it's yet another one | 19:08 |
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| sdague | seriously, if you buy a hot coffee and dump in your lap, I'm not going to feel all that bad | 19:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: IPv6 experimental job - set SERVICE_HOST to ::1 https://review.openstack.org/229108 | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | sc68cal: ^ that will break on multinode, fine with it since I think other things will reka on multinode with ipv6 only I think, but maybe we can more generally solve that problem? | 19:10 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: curious to know what you think | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Ari proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in builders and scm https://review.openstack.org/229100 | 19:10 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: I only change it in the job definition for the ipv6 only job | 19:11 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: I didn't touch devstack-gate | 19:11 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: I know but if we can solve it properly once then you don't need to have special config | 19:11 |
| clarkb | sc68cal: my point is don't bake too much spceial sauce into the job itself | 19:11 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: ack. I have a patch against d-g that works on fixing, but I didn't know if it was right approach | 19:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean M. Collins proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: [WIP] Stop hard coding SERVICE_HOST https://review.openstack.org/229111 | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | sc68cal: ya thats better (doesn't address multinode but at least its not super jobs specific) | 19:14 |
| clarkb | I think devstack says "what is my IP" to figure out what IP addr to use if its not set which should justwork | 19:14 |
| clarkb | assuming it understsands ipv6 onlyu | 19:14 |
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| morgan | sdague, clarkb, mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229112/ | 19:15 |
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| morgan | holding until branching and then we'll see what happens | 19:15 |
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| morgan | once that lands keystone team will look at ripping out the eventlet support itself. | 19:15 |
| sdague | works for me | 19:16 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: yeah, thee is some logic here - http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/stackrc#n707 | 19:16 |
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| sdague | sc68cal: the reason it's hardcoded in devstack-gate is I think the guessing ended up weird some times | 19:20 |
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| sdague | sc68cal: also look at primary_node | 19:22 |
| sdague | because that's what's going to be set in the multinode case | 19:22 |
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| sdague | and, honestly, it seems like we should set it to primary node for the master as well | 19:22 |
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| clarkb | sdague: ya except the nodepool info is ipv4 only currently (some hosts don't get ipv6) | 19:23 |
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| alivigni | zaro# ping if I updated a patch for my JJB will the tests automatically get rerun? Is there a queue to watch? | 19:23 |
| clarkb | so in the ipv6 only case we would need some work there to say "use ::1" or "use this overlay address" or "use this routable ipv6 addr from provider" | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaitlin Farr proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create experimental job for Castellan https://review.openstack.org/229097 | 19:24 |
| Clint | alivigni: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 19:24 |
| clarkb | anyways happy to do what is easiest for now and ipv6 | 19:24 |
| clarkb | but we should keep this in mind for the futuer | 19:24 |
| alivigni | Clint# thanks | 19:24 |
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| zaro | alivigni: yes, and the queue is here: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 19:25 |
| alivigni | zaro# thanks looks like it passed I am on my way :) | 19:26 |
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| mordred | Shrews: so - looking at public ip finding again | 19:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: I think there are a couple of short-circuit we can try | 19:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: one is - we currently get the list of networks, and then we get a list of ports and work backwards to patch port to server to network | 19:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: which is totaly correct and will always work | 19:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: BUT - I tink we could first look to see if the server has a network dict, and if so, if any of the networks match the name of the public network found by looking for networks with the externally routable flag | 19:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: in fact, we could make a "find external network" method which we could aggressively cache the results of (even outside of dogpile) | 19:46 |
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| mordred | Shrews: and then we should be able to skip the port list loop | 19:46 |
| mordred | Shrews: UNLESS it doesn't work | 19:46 |
| mordred | in which case we go back to the port list loop | 19:46 |
| mordred | since we know that works all th etime | 19:47 |
| Shrews | holy crap. ping flood | 19:47 |
| mordred | Shrews: sorry man | 19:47 |
| mordred | Shrews: just realized we're about to api-flood the clouds if we turn on get_openstack_vars on every create_server call without doing somthing about network introspection | 19:47 |
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| anteaya | Shrews: language | 19:48 |
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| Shrews | mordred: that sounds sane | 19:48 |
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| mordred | Shrews: k. I'm going to write a patch | 19:51 |
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| anteaya | fungi: were we going to get to the gerrit status etherpad? | 19:52 |
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| fungi | anteaya: yep, i'll push it in here at the end | 19:52 |
| anteaya | fungi: thanks | 19:52 |
| fungi | thanks for the reminder | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Raise minimum django_openstack_auth to > 1.2.x https://review.openstack.org/225549 | 19:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet-openstack_spec_helper project https://review.openstack.org/229126 | 20:00 |
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| clarkb | mordred: when you get a break with shade + nodepool https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226591/2 is related to a thing one of your patches hit (adding test coveragewhere we didn't have it in nodepool) | 20:00 |
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| anteaya | so if the bug is in gerrit master it won't go away until it gets fixed | 20:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Nisha Agarwal proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add a new element hpdsa https://review.openstack.org/220888 | 20:00 |
| clarkb | anteaya: correct | 20:00 |
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| anteaya | and it sounds like it won't get fixed unless we fix it | 20:01 |
| zaro | yup | 20:01 |
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| zaro | seems like it | 20:01 |
| clarkb | and I believe that jgit and cyanogenmod and gerrit and android and all of these other large public gerrit instances are affected | 20:01 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 20:01 |
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| zaro | i've asked wikimedia guys and they are not interested either. | 20:01 |
| anteaya | clarkb: but either they don't agree or they don't see it | 20:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Move test assertions closer to apply. https://review.openstack.org/227596 | 20:01 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: https://review.openstack.org/229126 | 20:01 |
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| clarkb | zaro: does wikimedia just up the timeout? | 20:02 |
| zaro | clarkb: could be they are on older version of gerrit, was introduced in 2.10 | 20:02 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 20:02 |
| zaro | clarkb: no wikimedia is on 2.8 | 20:02 |
| zaro | and they are not interested in upgrading, specifically because of that bug | 20:03 |
| clarkb | zaro: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/status:open is 2.11 | 20:03 |
| fungi | hrm, so wikimedia is in the same boat we are? opportunity to pool resources/influence perhaps | 20:03 |
| clarkb | android is even newer and gerrit itself follows master | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add script to facilitate project renaming in {projects,channels,layout}.yaml https://review.openstack.org/228002 | 20:03 |
| Clint | AJaeger: ^ there you go | 20:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/requirements: Bump minimum os-testr version to 0.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/229129 | 20:03 |
| mordred | Shrews: nets = cloud.search_networks( | 20:04 |
| zaro | fungi: unfortunately the are ok with not upgrading because their next upgrade might be to phabricator | 20:04 |
| mordred | filters={'router:external': False, 'shared': False}) | 20:04 |
| mordred | why shared False? | 20:04 |
| fungi | zaro: yeah, i wondered if they were considering that lateral move option :/ | 20:04 |
| AJaeger | thanks, Clint ! That was quick... | 20:04 |
| mordred | Shrews: oh - are those negative filters? | 20:04 |
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| zaro | fungi: also the Gerrit guy there said he didn't even want to try because some of the cores already tried | 20:05 |
| Shrews | mordred: no | 20:05 |
| Shrews | mordred: this is where? | 20:05 |
| mordred | Shrews: oh. bah | 20:05 |
| anteaya | zaro: this is Sasa? | 20:05 |
| mordred | I was looking at the private function, not the public one | 20:05 |
| Shrews | oh | 20:05 |
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| zaro | anteaya: no, Sasa is with SAS, Christian is the guy at wikimedia | 20:05 |
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| anteaya | zaro: ah okay thanks, so Christian doesn't want to try to upgrade gerrit | 20:06 |
| zaro | he might want to upgrade but doesn't want to try to fix that bug. | 20:07 |
| zaro | he might upgrade if that bug is fixed. | 20:07 |
| zaro | *might/would consider upgrading | 20:08 |
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| anteaya | zaro: oh I see what you are saying | 20:09 |
| anteaya | so no support from Christian in formulating the take on the bug strategy | 20:09 |
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| zaro | anteaya: nope | 20:09 |
| zaro | anteaya: so again, i'm in favor of your porposal | 20:10 |
| zaro | proposal to publicise our Gerrit problem. | 20:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/requirements: Add weakmethod backport library (for 2.7 and 2.6 only) https://review.openstack.org/225911 | 20:11 |
| zaro | anteaya: i'm wondering if it would be more advantages to be more broad | 20:11 |
| anteaya | zaro: I'm wondering that myself | 20:11 |
| zaro | anteaya: i'm thinking just trying to get more people involved with hacking on Gerrit | 20:12 |
| anteaya | we might need to canvas quite a group to find the special someone willing to take this on | 20:12 |
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| anteaya | zaro: no argument from me | 20:12 |
| zaro | i guess what i mean is more openstack people | 20:12 |
| zaro | i'm not sure whether that's even a good idea at an openstack summit | 20:13 |
| anteaya | that would be a start | 20:13 |
| anteaya | well you have attended a gerrit conf in the past have you not? | 20:13 |
| anteaya | I'm wondering if we might find easier prospects at such an event | 20:14 |
| zaro | yes, and they are looking for more contributors. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/repo-discuss/8oCDXItB1U8/I4Qi4K0VAwAJ | 20:14 |
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| zaro | but i guess which open source project isn't :) | 20:14 |
| persia | If the schedule allows, having a session in Tokyo about it may be helpful, even if one can't schedule a gerrit conference. There are a fair number of people who pay more attention to cross-project things at summits than during the regular season. | 20:15 |
| anteaya | persia: good point | 20:16 |
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| anteaya | perhaps a penciled out portion during the friday meetup/sprint day? | 20:16 |
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| anteaya | zaro persia thoughts? | 20:16 |
| persia | My only worry is that on that day, there doesn't tend to be a lot of room-changing. A few people walk, but a lot of people cluster. | 20:17 |
| persia | (just because there is always so much that didn't get done at Summit that needs focus) | 20:17 |
| zaro | aren't lots of people gone by fri? | 20:17 |
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| persia | zaro: Not the folk that would be good candidates for this, really. Folk willing to hack on some random thing that won't earn them ATC tend to be the folk who stay the extra day for social reasons even if they didn't have some meetup to attend. | 20:18 |
| * anteaya is open to other suggestions for snagging folks willing to work on gerrit | 20:18 | |
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| zaro | worth a shot i guess. | 20:19 |
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| fungi | would be nice if we had a channel to tell openstack member companies "our community relies on gerrit, please contribute some full-time headcount to contributing to the gerrit project" | 20:19 |
| anteaya | fungi: ohhh I like that idea | 20:20 |
| pleia2 | fungi: indeed | 20:20 |
| zaro | is there a template for that | 20:20 |
| fungi | i can prod foundation people with that detail, but the telephone game quickly loses coherency for stuff like that | 20:20 |
| anteaya | I actually think we need a new dedicated person for this | 20:20 |
| persia | Could try to reach out to the Product Management team: supposedly they do some collective coordination of resource allocation. | 20:20 |
| anteaya | persia: have they been effective in resource allocation? | 20:20 |
| persia | (although they usually ignore infra, for obvious reasons) | 20:20 |
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| anteaya | I hear that is part of their expectation, has any seen any evidence of it actually happening? | 20:21 |
| clarkb | wait why would you ignore us? thats not obvious to me | 20:21 |
| zaro | tokyo would actually be a good opportunity because one of the Gerrit maintainers will be attending. i can try to rope him in. | 20:21 |
| anteaya | yeah I don't really want to hang my hat on something that won't net results | 20:21 |
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| clarkb | the entire product relies on functioning developer infrastructure... | 20:21 |
| persia | anteaya: I understand that there have been some agreements in that forum that led to fufilled obligations during the Liberty cycle. My visiion there is poor currently, as my last update on status was at OSCON. | 20:21 |
| fungi | in some ways, we're too successfully at keeping things running, so it's not externally obvious when we're struggling with fundamental issues | 20:22 |
| fungi | er, successful | 20:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: are you saying we need to introduce artifical failures? | 20:22 |
| fungi | YES, that's totally what i was saying | 20:22 |
| persia | clarkb: They ignore infra mostly because most of the people in Product Marketing work for contributor organisations on those organisations downstream products, and so are focused on common feature development, rather than anything else. | 20:22 |
| fungi | who wants to play with implementing chaos monkey in our infrastructure? ;) | 20:22 |
| anteaya | persia: thanks for your insight, dated as it might be, it is better than mine which is absent | 20:23 |
| anteaya | fungi: yes, I was thinking that the other day | 20:23 |
| anteaya | folks take us for granted now that we don't keep blowing over in the wind | 20:23 |
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| anteaya | when it was obvious in channel that we were dealing with something major we seemed to have that much more support | 20:24 |
| anteaya | I think we may need some chaos monkey | 20:24 |
| persia | I'll note that some of the organisations that sponsor infra team members have been regular attendees at Product Management sessions and midcycles (at least from reports I received), so it may be that there are channels that folk here can push internally that can help feed the other end of the machine. | 20:24 |
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| zaro | so what's the most appropriate way to go about getting more hackers interested in Gerrit at the summit? | 20:26 |
| clarkb | maybe we can start with the ML | 20:26 |
| anteaya | zaro: I'm actually thinking the question you just asked might be a great topic for a post to the ml | 20:26 |
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| clarkb | "hey openstack-dev heres the thing. Remember when we upgraded Gerrit and it exploded? well we would like to fix that but are in a resource crunch. If you have an interset in fixing bugs in large useful java applications this is where you should start" | 20:27 |
| persia | ML is a good start. Having a note in the schedule app that gerrit is under discussion at a specific time can also help cause potentially interested people to attend | 20:27 |
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| anteaya | fungi: oh speaking of which the irc-meetings repo needs an update for the infra meeting | 20:28 |
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| anteaya | fungi: the chair needs an update | 20:28 |
| zaro | ok. i'll start with ML, copy/paste of clarkb message | 20:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Also look for stackforge puppet modules when copying logs https://review.openstack.org/229136 | 20:28 |
| fungi | anteaya: thanks, i was intending to update that and other places but got sidetracked. will take care of asap | 20:28 |
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| anteaya | fungi: sure, along with all the other things on the asap list | 20:28 |
| * fungi nods ;) | 20:29 | |
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| anteaya | zaro: I think you are opening up the discussion nicely, well done | 20:29 |
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| clarkb | zaro: well you should clean it up but ya :) | 20:29 |
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| zaro | actually rawness of that seems appealing :) | 20:30 |
| clarkb | ha | 20:30 |
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| zaro | but i am the only openstacker that sems to hack on gerrit so what do i know | 20:31 |
| anteaya | zaro: we need to get you some company | 20:31 |
| anteaya | in the gerrit hacking | 20:31 |
| zaro | will do one of those etherpads for let you review | 20:31 |
| anteaya | awesome | 20:31 |
| * anteaya stands by to review | 20:32 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Provide a short-circuit for finding public network https://review.openstack.org/229140 | 20:32 |
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| mordred | Shrews: ^^ | 20:33 |
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| Shrews | mordred: will look in a bit | 20:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add nibalizer to infra-root https://review.openstack.org/226526 | 20:34 |
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| fungi | nibalizer: ^ don't spend it all in one place | 20:35 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I +2's the fedora22 image change | 20:37 |
| clarkb | now just need one more core to agree its ok as a first step | 20:37 |
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| ianw | clarkb: thanks! pabelanger and i will beat it into shape. f22 was an unfortunately large change | 20:39 |
| ianw | changing underling package manager (dnf) and puppet4 all in one | 20:39 |
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| clarkb | ya quite a bit of churn | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add yolanda to infra root https://review.openstack.org/226643 | 20:40 |
| fungi | yolanda: ^ there you go | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | hooray | 20:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed openstack/requirements: Add freezegun to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/228603 | 20:41 |
| nibalizer | fungi: \o/ | 20:42 |
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| sc68cal | jeblair: found an interesting crash with Gertty version: 1.2.2.dev17 - viewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228100/ causes the following stacktrace - http://paste.openstack.org/show/474743/ | 20:43 |
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| anteaya | this is the licence of a tool Piet would like infra to take a look at hosting for him: https://github.com/kobotoolbox/kobocat/blob/master/LICENSE | 20:44 |
| anteaya | do any licencing folks feel that would work for us? | 20:44 |
| * anteaya is uncertain | 20:44 | |
| Piet | We are also looking at limesurvey if the license is more agreeable | 20:45 |
| clarkb | that looks like a bsd license? I think its k | 20:45 |
| anteaya | Piet: have you a link to the limesurvey licence? | 20:45 |
| anteaya | clarkb: great thank you, the all rights reserved threw me when I looked at it last night | 20:45 |
| Piet | Let me look. Currently in the TC meeting | 20:46 |
| clarkb | anteaya: thats redundant under US copyright law iirc | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | hm, I thought I looked last night and it was AGPL | 20:46 |
| clarkb | though I am not a lawyer | 20:46 |
| anteaya | clarkb: oh, hmmmm, didn't know that | 20:46 |
| sc68cal | clarkb: yeah that was my thought too, if you squint hard it looks like BSD | 20:46 |
| fungi | "all rights reserved" is redundant ever since the berne convention | 20:46 |
| anteaya | pleia2: okay thanks for looking | 20:46 |
| pleia2 | maybe I was looking at the wrong project in their github repo | 20:46 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you | 20:46 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: ianw: indeed! excited to watch it | 20:47 |
| anteaya | well kobotoolbox has 4 different tools | 20:47 |
| sc68cal | looks like 2 clause - http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause | 20:47 |
| clarkb | so not to throw massive wrench in that | 20:47 |
| anteaya | their source is a tad scattered since their deliverable is a vagrant image | 20:47 |
| pleia2 | ah, it was dkobo that's AGPL | 20:47 |
| clarkb | But we really need to figure out the rax quota situation before we start agreeing to go deploying a bunch more tools | 20:47 |
| anteaya | clarkb: good to know | 20:47 |
| * clarkb wants to be upfront with the current situation basically being we can't deploy new things right now | 20:47 | |
| pleia2 | clarkb: mordred still looking into that? | 20:47 |
| anteaya | clarkb: thanks for being upfront | 20:48 |
| mordred | aroo? | 20:48 |
| clarkb | pleia2: I think mordred said that he got a response and that rax would look at it but I haven't heard that anything has changed | 20:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: our rax quota | 20:48 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh - I got a response that our quota had been increased | 20:48 |
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| pleia2 | neat | 20:48 |
| mordred | sorry, should have said something | 20:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: thanks | 20:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: to what? | 20:48 |
| anteaya | mordred: do we know? | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | one million! | 20:48 |
| clarkb | I would check what the clouds say but its actually really hard to get that data | 20:48 |
| clarkb | another API that should be simpler | 20:48 |
| mordred | anteaya: to whatever we requested - which I do not remember right now :) | 20:48 |
| pleia2 | it is hard, we only found out our current quota when we hit it | 20:48 |
| Piet | anteaya: https://www.limesurvey.org/en/about-limesurvey/license | 20:48 |
| clarkb | what is my quota and how much of it am I using | 20:48 |
| anteaya | one million, a nice round number | 20:49 |
| anteaya | mordred: great thanks | 20:49 |
| clarkb | mordred: have you been able to read my comments on the nodepool change? | 20:49 |
| mordred | clarkb: not yet | 20:49 |
| anteaya | pleia2: ha ha ha, oh _there's_ the line | 20:49 |
| anteaya | Piet: thank you | 20:49 |
| mordred | clarkb: they're coming next - hacking on the network finding efficiency right now | 20:49 |
| yolanda | fungi thx | 20:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: There is no tripleo-incubator package https://review.openstack.org/228492 | 20:53 |
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| pleia2 | ianw: re: 186619, the names don't match, dib_fedora-22 in nodepool.logging.conf.erb vs. just fedora-22 in nodepool.yaml.erb, shouldn't they? | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | zaro: is it safe to rerun jobs that use JJB? | 21:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Provide short-circuit for finding server networks https://review.openstack.org/229140 | 21:08 |
| mordred | Shrews, clarkb, jeblair: updated to handle private networks too - because looking for a private address on a cloud where you know there is no such thing is just a waste of time | 21:09 |
| clarkb | mordred: looking | 21:09 |
| anteaya | clarkb: oh and for clarity the point about tc candidates only needed foundation membership, I said it was in the by-laws and it isn't, it is in the charter | 21:09 |
| mordred | if we like the general shape, I'll go write the tests - I have tested it by hand empirically | 21:09 |
| anteaya | clarkb: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048102.html | 21:09 |
| clarkb | anteaya: thanks | 21:10 |
| anteaya | clarkb: welcome | 21:10 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yeah - I think we can change the way the task manager interactions work for sure - I think we still want a nodepool specific task manager because we need threads, but yes in general | 21:12 |
| fungi | anteaya: tc charter is an appendix of the foundation bylaws, right? | 21:12 |
| clarkb | mordred: right I think the current base class of ProviderManager sticks around, but we don't need a specific ProviderManager subclass | 21:12 |
| clarkb | mordred: because all of that is basically shade now | 21:13 |
| anteaya | fungi: it is a separate document | 21:13 |
| anteaya | fungi: the by-laws are the canonical rules | 21:13 |
| fungi | ahh, clearly i need to revisit them yet again | 21:13 |
| anteaya | the tc charter fills in some gaps and governs the tc | 21:13 |
| anteaya | but any contradiction and the by-laws rule | 21:13 |
| anteaya | but the by-laws don't cover everythign the tc needs | 21:13 |
| zaro | clarkb: yes, it should actually work now. | 21:13 |
| anteaya | so the charter is the document there | 21:13 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yup | 21:14 |
| anteaya | for instance the by-laws say the tc runs elections however it wants | 21:14 |
| anteaya | which is a tad thin to actually administer them | 21:14 |
| fungi | anteaya: right you are. was confusing the tc charter with bylaws appendix 4 | 21:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: but you dont need that in the current change :) would be a good follow up | 21:14 |
| anteaya | but the by-laws do weigh in specificially on defining an atc | 21:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: +100 | 21:14 |
| anteaya | fungi: ah | 21:14 |
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| mordred | clarkb: so - I am now aware of zero clouds without support for keypairs | 21:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: which makes me unsure as to the answer to your question, as I have zero test clouds to test such a scenario on | 21:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: hrm, I wonder if maybe we just say "this is required to nodepool" | 21:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: the intent is that delete_keypair should only throw an exception if something out of the ordinary happens. it will usually return True orFalse | 21:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think we should | 21:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: but maybe git log can provide insights as well | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | mordred: in that case I think we can just clean up the old exception handling | 21:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: it would also clean up the section where we play with passwords | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | ya | 21:17 |
| mordred | clarkb: but I may do that also as a follow on | 21:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: wfm | 21:18 |
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| clarkb | mordred: what is an external network flag? | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I am a little confused on why we need 3 values to describe how to set the network | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Just let shade and os-client-config handle clouds https://review.openstack.org/226758 | 21:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Use shade for all OpenStack interactions https://review.openstack.org/226751 | 21:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: there are three things, two are configurable | 21:26 |
| mordred | clarkb: one is "here is the name of my network" - one is "I do not have a network of this type" | 21:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: also in your init you look only to oscc which isn't terrible but you could populate from the cloud itself if oscc doesn't know | 21:27 |
| mordred | those need to be separate because you might not have a name an dyou want it to be autodetected | 21:27 |
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| clarkb | mordred: what is the third for? | 21:27 |
| mordred | the third is just a "yes, we've looked once and do not need to ever look again" flag | 21:27 |
| clarkb | gotcha | 21:27 |
| mordred | probably should be called _stamp :) | 21:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: not sure what yo umean by "from the cloud itself" ? | 21:28 |
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| clarkb | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229140/2/shade/__init__.py line 252 instead of defaulting to None call the get_external_network() function? | 21:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: assuming the other value is true | 21:29 |
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| mordred | clarkb: but then you might look at the network for an instantiation of a cloud that does not care | 21:29 |
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| mordred | such as if you just were using shade to upload an image, for instance | 21:29 |
| clarkb | hrm ok | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | mordred: so its lazy I can live withthat | 21:30 |
| mordred | \o/ | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | mordred: would it be worthwhile providing a way to change the external network without making a new cloud object? | 21:30 |
| clarkb | I think nodepool will make a new cloud object so doesn't matter there | 21:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes | 21:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: I do think it's worthwhile | 21:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update PTL contact info for new service providers https://review.openstack.org/229154 | 21:32 |
| clarkb | mordred: this looks like code that could be deduped if you want by passing a filter to a generic function | 21:32 |
| clarkb | mordred: then wrapping with the outer get functions | 21:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Rally gates to use Cinder API v1 https://review.openstack.org/229155 | 21:33 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I alo agree with that | 21:33 |
| Shrews | mordred: i will have to look at this change tomorrow | 21:35 |
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| mordred | Shrews: I will have more updates for it by tomorrow | 21:36 |
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| Shrews | mordred: my joy knows no bounds | 21:38 |
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| asselin | hey, so I'm trying to make progress with the common-ci spec and there's a few things blocking | 21:40 |
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| asselin | I have some patch review links on this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/common-ci-sprint | 21:41 |
| asselin | First in the chain of dependencies is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189762/ nodepool Update nodepool to use secure.conf file | 21:42 |
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| asselin | it's a big patch that's been around for a while | 21:42 |
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| asselin | I see mordred has some nodepool shade patches and might cause conflicts. | 21:43 |
| zaro | clarkb, fungi, anteaya: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Gerrit_get_involved | 21:43 |
| asselin | then there's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199674/ puppet-os_client_config Manage OSCC config file with Puppet | 21:44 |
| asselin | I remember clarkb having objections to using @config.to_yaml. Anyone else? | 21:45 |
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| clarkb | mordred: reviewed that ahde thing | 21:45 |
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| clarkb | asselin its completely redundant and unnecessary | 21:46 |
| clarkb | asselin it only adds complexity (bugs) | 21:46 |
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| asselin | clarkb, ok, what's the other approach? | 21:47 |
| asselin | follow what system-config is doing now? | 21:47 |
| clarkb | asselin hiera can do files or just put it in hiera directly | 21:47 |
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| clarkb | basically dont do the unneeded conversion just go hiera -> file | 21:47 |
| * asselin looks up hiera files | 21:48 | |
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| anteaya | zaro: looks good, I did some grammar fixes | 21:48 |
| anteaya | fungi: any opinion on zaro's etherpad? do you feel it is strong enough? | 21:49 |
| anteaya | clarkb jeblair pleia2 ^^ | 21:49 |
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| asselin | clarkb, hmm...I didn't find any file, but I can certainly agree it can do multi-line string | 21:49 |
| clarkb | asselin: I think its a plugin | 21:50 |
| clarkb | asselin: but my point is that doing yaml -> puppet dsl -> yaml is silly | 21:50 |
| asselin | clarkb, would you object to multiline string? | 21:50 |
| clarkb | asselin: in hiera? no | 21:50 |
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| fungi | anteaya: zaro: looks like a good place to start | 21:50 |
| asselin | clarkb, ok will do that. | 21:51 |
| clarkb | asselin: I also don't think that needs a special module | 21:51 |
| fungi | anteaya: zaro: maybe mention "in #openstack-infra or on openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org" to the second paragraph? | 21:51 |
| clarkb | asselin: its literally writing a single file from hiera verbatim | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | fungi: ++ | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | was just going to suggest contact info | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | otherwise lgtm | 21:52 |
| anteaya | fungi: yeah that is a good suggestion | 21:52 |
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| fungi | but other than that, looks like an accurate representation of our current status | 21:52 |
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| zaro | do you think it shoould be sent out to openstack-dev or openstack-infra? | 21:52 |
| anteaya | zaro: -dev | 21:52 |
| asselin | clarkb, ok, for nodepool I will make it multi-line string. If/when in the future there's a module, we can migrate to that or not. | 21:52 |
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| anteaya | zaro: you are looking for new devs, go wide | 21:53 |
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| clarkb | zaro: lgtm | 21:53 |
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| anteaya | and hopefully member companies as well | 21:53 |
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| fungi | yeah, -dev. the subscribers to -infra mostly know the score already (i hope?) | 21:54 |
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| fungi | this is about finding a larger audience | 21:54 |
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| zaro | ok, that's what i thought as well. | 21:55 |
| fungi | i'm on the fence as to whether it needs an [infra] subject tag. adding that may limit visibility, on the other hand the people who explicitly exclude infra discussions maybe aren't going to be much help to us anyway | 21:56 |
| zaro | fungi: so where did you suggest to mention openstack-infra? | 21:56 |
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| fungi | zaro: around "let the openstack-infra folks know" (the natural question that raises is, "how do i let them know?") | 21:56 |
| pleia2 | here, I'll propose an edit | 21:57 |
| anteaya | zaro fungi I have added a new subject line | 21:57 |
| anteaya | what do you think? | 21:57 |
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| pleia2 | zaro, fungi: added as a footnote | 21:57 |
| fungi | pleia2: anteaya: lgtm | 21:57 |
| fungi | (subject and footnote) | 21:57 |
| anteaya | pleia2: looks good | 21:57 |
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| zaro | gerriters looove footies | 21:58 |
| anteaya | fungi: addresses the tag issue | 21:58 |
| anteaya | zaro: ah good we are starting with good bait | 21:58 |
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| pleia2 | maybe also work Java into the subject? | 21:58 |
| zaro | anteaya: 'infra looking for' instead of 'infra needs'? | 21:59 |
| anteaya | I would say needs | 21:59 |
| anteaya | you have said we can't upgrade unless that is fixed | 21:59 |
| zaro | then LGTM | 21:59 |
| anteaya | that moves it solidly to needs in my mind | 21:59 |
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| fungi | pleia2: oh, wait, might want to reorder those footnotes | 21:59 |
| fungi | 1<->2 | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | I can count \o/ | 22:00 |
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| fungi | heh | 22:00 |
| anteaya | counting is overrated | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | fixed | 22:00 |
| fungi | alternative: footnote enumeration in descending order! | 22:00 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:00 |
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| anteaya | i'm happy to see that sent out | 22:00 |
| fungi | i may give that a shot in the future, just to mess with people | 22:01 |
| anteaya | fungi: you would | 22:01 |
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| mordred | clarkb: laptop battery died. I'm no hacky hacky till I land | 22:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: thats fine, commented on the use shade patch, it mostly got there with the addresses stuff | 22:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: its looking good | 22:02 |
| mordred | cool | 22:02 |
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| fungi | i've got some eveningish things i need to tackle, but will be around if anything urgent pops up | 22:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client https://review.openstack.org/229162 | 22:03 |
| clarkb | mordred: also you haven't figured out how to vim in connectbo on your phone yet? | 22:04 |
| clarkb | mordred: :P | 22:04 |
| anteaya | enjoy furniture fungi | 22:04 |
| clarkb | my connectbot connection can't connect to anything that can push code | 22:04 |
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| clarkb | fungi: do those things include hurricane prep? | 22:05 |
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| fungi | clarkb: nope, already dropped down the shutters for the storm-sensitive windows downstairs. the upstairs windows can withstand high winds | 22:06 |
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| fungi | otherwise already fairly prepared here if things take a turn for the worse | 22:06 |
| docaedo | fungi: not urgent, but the app catalog still needs an SSL cert I believe | 22:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add Fedora 22 DIB nodes https://review.openstack.org/186619 | 22:06 |
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| docaedo | fungi: the review has been blessed by some very smart people so far (https://review.openstack.org/226984) so just remindering you | 22:07 |
| fungi | docaedo: thanks! i'll try to buy a cert for it tomorrow and add it to hiera | 22:07 |
| docaedo | fungi: thank you, very much appreciate your excellence :) | 22:08 |
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| fungi | and you yours! | 22:08 |
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| fungi | er, i yours | 22:08 |
| docaedo | haha | 22:08 |
| fungi | something like that | 22:08 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I have no connectbots | 22:10 |
| mordred | clarkb: I do the weechat android client to talk to my weechat | 22:10 |
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| jokke_ | fungi: you're expecting hurrincane to hit the neighbourhood? | 22:12 |
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| clarkb | jokke_: tropical storm joaquin is expected to become a hurricane tomorrow then track up the US east coast | 22:13 |
| anteaya | ah | 22:13 |
| boris-42 | clarkb: mordred hi guys could you please merge this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229155/ (Rally gates are broken) | 22:13 |
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| boris-42 | clarkb: mordred thanks | 22:13 |
| jokke_ | clarkb: ouch | 22:13 |
| jokke_ | well all West-Coasters, please be safe there! | 22:14 |
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| anteaya | zaro: where you going to send out that post to the dev mailing list? | 22:14 |
| fungi | jokke_: yeah, not expecting, just making sure i'm ready | 22:14 |
| jokke_ | east-coasters even | 22:14 |
| docaedo | I advocate safety from coast to coast | 22:14 |
| anteaya | fungi: have you been through one yet in the new house? | 22:15 |
| jokke_ | fungi: makes sense ... be safe and hopefully your precautions are not needed | 22:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client https://review.openstack.org/229162 | 22:17 |
| asselin | clarkb, I hope I can get your support for this patch ^^ basic copy and paste of https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/nodepool_prod.pp | 22:17 |
| fungi | anteaya: i have not, but the house has been here through 30 years of them so i'm not too worried | 22:18 |
| clarkb | asselin: should that var be required? or is an empty file ok? | 22:18 |
| asselin | clarkb, I've found an empty file works just fine | 22:18 |
| asselin | of course you need creditials in nodepool.yaml in that case | 22:19 |
| clarkb | asselin: except that nodepool wont function | 22:19 |
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| asselin | clarkb, really? mine is working | 22:19 |
| anteaya | fungi: hope it is mild for you | 22:19 |
| clarkb | asselin: yes nodepool itself supports it but taht module doesn't | 22:19 |
| clarkb | asselin: you would have to write out the file with secrets in git | 22:19 |
| asselin | clarkb, in git? | 22:20 |
| clarkb | asselin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229162/2/manifests/nodepool.pp line 60 | 22:20 |
| clarkb | asselin: it takes a path (to support projcet-config like configs) which implies that to go that route would require commiting those secrets to git | 22:20 |
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| asselin | clarkb, no, line 60 would be your nodepool.yaml file in project-config w/o any secrets | 22:21 |
| asselin | clarkb, your secrets would be passed in via $oscc_file_contents | 22:21 |
| clarkb | asselin: I know thats my point | 22:21 |
| clarkb | asselin: so you should make oscc_file_contents required | 22:21 |
| asselin | clarkb, well..I see, in this case you're 'allowed' to have secrets in git. You prefer not having that option? | 22:22 |
| asselin | or at least forcing the user to pass in '' | 22:22 |
| asselin | ok I can set the default to undef | 22:22 |
| clarkb | yes | 22:23 |
| clarkb | no | 22:23 |
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| clarkb | dont set it to undef either | 22:23 |
| clarkb | just dont set it | 22:23 |
| asselin | ok, no objections | 22:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client https://review.openstack.org/229162 | 22:24 |
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| docaedo | I think these two are ready for a merge, is there anything more I need to do? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226999/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227413/ | 22:27 |
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| zaro | anteaya: just sent it. | 22:30 |
| zaro | mordred: android weechat client? /me must investigate | 22:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Add support for os-client https://review.openstack.org/229162 | 22:32 |
| mordred | zaro: yup! it's awesome | 22:32 |
| docaedo | zaro: I can attest, it's the best (weechat). shell, android client or web browser (glowing-bear.org) | 22:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Dickinson proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-swift-tox-func voting https://review.openstack.org/205723 | 22:35 |
| anteaya | zaro: wonderful thank youi | 22:36 |
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| anteaya | zaro: nicely done | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update Infra meeting chair for new PTL https://review.openstack.org/229156 | 22:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ari proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Implements: additions for OS3 plugin entry points in builders and scm Updated with comments https://review.openstack.org/229100 | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Create a single-node 3rd party ci system https://review.openstack.org/200330 | 22:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Update meeting info for 3rd party ci working group https://review.openstack.org/229178 | 23:05 |
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| jhesketh | Morning | 23:21 |
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| anteaya | morning jhesketh | 23:22 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: good morning, we don't think the osloganalyze swift index generation thing is working | 23:22 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh: details in the meeting log or I can dig them up if it helps | 23:22 |
| jhesketh | Hmm okay | 23:22 |
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| jhesketh | I need to read the meeting anyway | 23:23 |
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| anteaya | after you read the meeting I am on this etherpad brainstorming as instructed: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-mitaka-summit-planning | 23:23 |
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| anteaya | jhesketh: do join me if you feel like it | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | signed8bit: as mentioned on Twitter, zaro is the one currently doing our Gerrit work | 23:24 |
| jhesketh | anteaya: okay :-) | 23:24 |
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| signed8bit | I'd be up for pitching in on Gerrit where I have time. I've been running Gerrit for our internal infra and have written a few plugins, e.g. Slack integration, so I know a bit of the codebase from that side. | 23:25 |
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| pleia2 | \o/ | 23:26 |
| zaro | signed8bit: ohh cool. somebody that know it | 23:26 |
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| signed8bit | Well sort of :-) | 23:26 |
| clarkb | morgan: reviewed your devstack change | 23:26 |
| clarkb | morgan: I think making those changes will get postgres passing | 23:26 |
| morgan | clarkb: ++ haven't come back to look at it yet. i saw jenkins failed it | 23:27 |
| zaro | signed8bit: i didn't see slack integration upstream, is that something in your private repo? | 23:27 |
| clarkb | morgan: I am curious to see job runtimes but looks like its the postgres not neutron job that uses eventlet | 23:27 |
| signed8bit | internal now... but i want to get that upstream | 23:27 |
| clarkb | morgan: so kestone likely not at afault for slow neutron tests | 23:27 |
| morgan | ah oh it is postgres | 23:27 |
| morgan | ya | 23:27 |
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| morgan | bah | 23:28 |
| anteaya | signed8bit: yay! | 23:28 |
| clarkb | morgan: but I figured I would help out and figure out why that job failed :) | 23:28 |
| zaro | signed8bit: is that in form of a plugin? | 23:28 |
| signed8bit | Yep, and it uses project specific config for setting a channel and some other options | 23:28 |
| clarkb | signed8bit: are you running gerrit > 2.8 and have you run into the git diff packfile bug? | 23:28 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: I think we just need to set the generate_folder_index flag in the wsgi.conf | 23:28 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: oh! I hadnt reviewed the change so didn't realize there was extra config | 23:29 |
| zaro | signed8bit: so have you heard of the diff timeout issue? https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=3424 | 23:29 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: should that be a default? | 23:29 |
| jhesketh | yeah | 23:29 |
| zaro | signed8bit: it was all the rage a few months ago on the gerrit ML. | 23:29 |
| signed8bit | We haven't run into that one yet and are on 2.9.4 currently | 23:29 |
| clarkb | jhesketh: I am happy to approve a change to get the config through now if you want to push it up | 23:29 |
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| jhesketh | hmm, depends how you use os-loganalyze... its legacy use not so much, but it's turned into a full log browser | 23:29 |
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| zaro | signed8bit: ahh, it was introduced in 2.10 i believe. | 23:30 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: yep, one sec | 23:30 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh: ya good point, maybe we can pick a point in time to make a major version release where we set these things | 23:30 |
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| zaro | signed8bit: trying to get around MyersDiff or something like that. | 23:30 |
| signed8bit | I guess I should wait on upgrading :-) | 23:30 |
| morgan | bah.. did not mean to do that yet | 23:30 |
| zaro | signed8bit: that was be wise atm | 23:31 |
| clarkb | morgan: aroo? | 23:31 |
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| zaro | signed8bit: well we would like to upgrade but need that fixed first. was wondering if you would be willing to help work on that? | 23:32 |
| morgan | clarkb: anyway there we go. fixed the comments | 23:32 |
| clarkb | morgan: great | 23:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Turn on os-loganalyze dynamic indexes https://review.openstack.org/229184 | 23:32 |
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| jhesketh | clarkb: ^ | 23:32 |
| pleia2 | signed8bit: this is the etherpad zaro started working in earlier to outline scope of the issue and things https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/I0eV4IgkZS | 23:32 |
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| signed8bit | thanks! yeah I am happy to help there if I can | 23:33 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh: and on the other os loganalyze change I suggested updating the html file used for is html tesing add some blank lines | 23:33 |
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| asselin | zaro, I'd like to help out with gerrit....my plate's full now but hopefully soon, i'll let you know | 23:34 |
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| zaro | asselin: thanks! | 23:34 |
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| jhesketh | clarkb: ah okay, I'll re-roll that today | 23:34 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh: +2 on tat other change | 23:35 |
| clarkb | pleia2: nibalizer jeblair fungi mordred any other cores want to review 229184? I can babysit | 23:35 |
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| pleia2 | I'll have a look | 23:36 |
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| clarkb | great thanks | 23:37 |
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| zaro | signed8bit: my proposed fix to jgit might be completely wrong. i think that's what the Gerrit guys are saying in that review. | 23:38 |
| zaro | signed8bit: it's some java threading issue that's hard to pinpoint. | 23:38 |
| anteaya | pabelanger: have you had a chance to look at the comments on the puppet-stackalytics patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190708/ | 23:39 |
| signed8bit | zaro: Threading fun! | 23:39 |
| signed8bit | zaro: let me have a look at that review | 23:39 |
| zaro | i bet your a pro at debugging those :) | 23:40 |
| signed8bit | zaro: and get the context | 23:40 |
| signed8bit | zaro: is anyone really a pro at that | 23:40 |
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| pleia2 | clarkb: care to land a logging change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221332/ | 23:41 |
| clarkb | pleia2: looking | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | no meetings for 50 minutes (looks like a docs meeting coming up at 0030 utc) | 23:41 |
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| clarkb | thats what my calendar says too | 23:42 |
| clarkb | and zuul isn't busy so should merge fast | 23:42 |
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| * pleia2 nods | 23:42 | |
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| clarkb | pleia2: approved | 23:43 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 23:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Log openstack-heat-translator IRC channel https://review.openstack.org/221332 | 23:48 |
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| anteaya | heat-translator needs its own irc channel? | 23:48 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: that thought occured to me too, but meh | 23:49 |
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| anteaya | okey dokey, meh it is | 23:49 |
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| signed8bit | zaro: Speaking up upstreaming a plugin, I was going to just get it up on github, would getting it into gerrit-review.googlesource.com be the best path? | 23:51 |
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