Thursday, 2015-10-15

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mtreinishjhesketh: no not yet, that's what's blocking the patch00:01
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mtreinishit'll fail jenkins00:01
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clarkbanteaya: we should probably email jesusaurus cody-somerville yolanda and rcarrillocruz directly about the nlscd module00:01
clarkbanteaya: I am sure jeblair already did but I have a hunch they would wnat to rename it00:02
cody-somervilleI did see an e-mail about that.00:02
cody-somervilleyolanda: and rcarrillocruz should know what to do with it.00:02
jheskethmtreinish: I'm confused though, you're using the old path so surely that's okay for now?00:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: bump upper constraints of keystonemiddleware and keystoneclient
anteayacody-somerville: the point is that the repo is on both lists00:03
anteayacody-somerville: to be renamed and to be retired00:04
anteayacody-somerville: so which do you want?00:04
anteayajhesketh mtreinish that rename won't happen until after summit00:04
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mtreinishjhesketh: it clones fine I think, but puppet doesn't like it00:09
mtreinishor that's my guess at least as to why the job is failing00:09
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add script to get dstat counters
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mtreinishjhesketh: err, nm I made a typo00:12
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
mtreinishjhesketh: ^^^00:13
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jheskethah, good catch00:20
jheskethinteresting that it applied to other servers though00:20
jheskethoh, nevermind, trusty is the only host for os-health00:21
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mtreinishjhesketh: yeah I was thrown by that too, which is why I thought it was a puppet thing00:24
mtreinishbecause trusty is newer puppet (or at least I think it is)00:24
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nibalizerclarkb: mtreinish voted00:26
jesusaurusclarkb: cody-somerville i saw the email about the nslcd module and didn't see us using it anywhere, but wasn't sure if it was used in some other downstream, so i was going to let yolanda (the author) respond00:26
jesusaurusclarkb: my guess is that it can be retired00:28
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anteayajesusaurus: the problem is it is on both lists00:29
jesusaurusoh, strange00:29
anteayajesusaurus: can you convine a meeting amoung those who might care are remove it from one of the lists00:29
anteayajesusaurus: yes, hence the questioning00:29
jesusaurusyeah, i can ping yolanda in about 16 hours00:30
jesusaurusand figure out which list it should be in00:30
anteayajesusaurus: thank you so much00:31
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anteayajust ping me after a decison has been made and the wikipage updated00:31
jesusaurussure thing00:31
anteayaso I can keep track00:31
anteayathank you00:31
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image delete using gearman
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mtreinishnibalizer: so does that mean this is stuck until the rename is done?00:46
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oomichihi, could someone review ?00:47
oomichiwe are implementing unit tests of tempest-lib and wasting time due to dsvm tests now00:48
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
openstackgerritYuiko Takada proposed openstack/requirements: Require diskimage-builder 1.1.2
nibalizermtreinish: I mean.. we could just put it on github or something until the renames land00:52
nibalizerbut we can't do it right until the rename is done00:53
nibalizermaybe put a thing on the meeting agenda to talk about it?00:53
clarkbnibalizer: or make the git cloner replace the - for us00:53
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nibalizerim not sure where the best place to work around the issue is00:56
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mtreinishnibalizer: :/ ok, I'll look into something tomorrow01:00
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Avoid division by zero in case there are no failures
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Enable configurable db_uri and es_url
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/requirements: WIP: Block oslo.messaging 2.6.1 release
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Enable configurable db_uri and es_url
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Avoid division by zero in case there are no failures
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Use httpd::vhost instead of apache::vhost
jesusaurusclarkb: looks like is using the old apache::vhost, we'll need in order for to pass tests02:15
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clarkbjesusaurus: all of those links are the same :)02:15
jesusauruserr, we'll need for the tests to pass02:15
jesusaurussilly copy buffers02:16
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jesusaurusthe tests on are not passing02:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Use httpd::vhost instead of apache::vhost
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openstackgerritWayne Okuma proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Glance metadata definition i18n support needed
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/requirements: Block oslo.messaging 2.6.1 release
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/requirements: Block oslo.messaging 2.6.1 release
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Update default fedora-minimal to f22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Remove extra install of release pkgs in fedora-minimal
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Fix selinux tests
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openstackgerritColleen Murphy proposed openstack-infra/puppet-cgit: Fix logic in selinux execs
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix toggle ci button for CS2 on Gerrit 2.11
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openstackgerritdaisy-ycguo proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Modify i18n team meeting time
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add support for skipping/excluding meetings
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add one off events for skipped meetings
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack-infra/yaml2ical: Add one off events for skipped meetings
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints
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liushengHi folks, could you please help to block oslo.messaging-2.6.1 in requirements now, it has broken Ceilometer's Jenkins job 2 days :(06:21
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liushengmany ceilometer patches are stuck now to be merged06:23
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add script to get dstat counters
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RamanjaneyaFungi: i have two accounts 1) gerrit and  2) lanuchpad06:50
Ramanjaneyastackalytics shows contribution for these two different accounts.06:50
RamanjaneyaHow i can merge these two accounts for single stackalytics.06:50
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RamanjaneyaCan somebody help, how to merge the two accounts for stackalytics07:00
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Add script to get dstat counters
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ClintRamanjaneya: propose a change to add yourself to etc/default_data.json07:09
RamanjaneyaClint: Can provide some reference how to add07:10
ClintRamanjaneya: you can see some examples at,n,z07:11
RamanjaneyaClint: what is the git hub repo07:11
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mohankumar Clint: Thanks for the prompt reply ! Exactly i too looking this ...07:15
ClintRamanjaneya: apparently the github repo is
Clintthough i'm not sure why you'd want it07:15
RamanjaneyaClint: Stacaccountskalytics shows with two different07:16
RamanjaneyaClint: my stackalytics  shows with two different07:16
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AJaegeryolanda: if you have some spare cycles for reviewing, could you look at and, please?07:59
yolandahi AJaeger, sure07:59
AJaegerthanks, yolanda !08:00
yolandaeasy ones08:02
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ttxfungi: the Task tracking session is unfortunately scheduled at the same time as the talk Doug and I are giving on the conference side. Any chance we could move that to another fishbowl slot ?08:36
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AJaegerttx, Documentation team is ready for Launch. Since it takes over an hour to update, we're triggering the release soon - any objections or comments from your side?08:39
ttxAJaeger: nope sounds good08:40
ttxi'm in the middle of the retagging process08:40
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AJaegerThen I won't distract you from that important job!08:40
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project
openstackgerritLoicNicolle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new Openstack repository for Fuel Inkscope integration
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therveianw, Hi, you around? I have a question about
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ianwtherve: ok...09:30
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odyssey4melifeless Do you have any idea when you'll be resolving the merge conflict in so that we can get this through the door? cc sdague09:35
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therveianw, We have a failure in grenade heat due to the trueorfalse change09:42
therveI think I understand though, there is probably a mismatch of versions (due to grenade)09:42
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ianwtherve: is it realted to HEAT_STACK_DOMAIN not being set correctly?09:45
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therveianw, Yeah probably old lib/heat against new functions-common09:46
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lifelessodyssey4me: I think you have me and sean confused09:48
lifelessodyssey4me: its the first time I've even seen that review09:48
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openstackgerritErno Kuvaja proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Exception to import functions directly from i18n
odyssey4melol, lifeless oops :/09:49
lifelessodyssey4me: no worries09:50
odyssey4meah, I see the confusion - you're Robert, he's Sean... but you're both Collins - the wires in my head got crossed09:50
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odyssey4mesc68cal Do you have any idea when you'll be resolving the merge conflict in so that we can get this through the door?09:52
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odyssey4mehopefully I'm addressing the right person this time :)09:52
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create bareon project
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create fuel-menu project
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add kmod to package-installs of ironic-agent
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cdentit appears netaddr has a bad hash on
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openstackgerritIsaac Beckman proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multinode interfaces on singlenode n-net create once.
openstackgerritDimitri Mazmanov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Kingbird to the project list
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openstackgerritDimitri Mazmanov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add Kingbird to the project list
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sambettsFor openstack/liberty we want to release networking-cisco as SemVer instead of 2015.x.x is there a guide anywhere explaining how to work around any issues with PyPi etc that we might face by changing the versioning scheme?11:32
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cdentlifeless, sdague, dhellmann: can we get this accelerated please and thank you?
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openstackgerritDoron Chen proposed openstack-infra/project-config: adding timeout to storlets functional test
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fungittx: updated the schedule to switch task tracking with scaling project creation12:01
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openstackgerritdaisy-ycguo proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a repository for I18N team (WIP)
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fungiRamanjaneya: i'll check the gerrit database for duplication, but you can likely propose a change to the user mapping files in stackalytics to combine them at that side12:02
fungilooks like Clint already mentioned that too12:02
ttxfungi: awesome, thx. Might be a bit late while I run through the campus, so will need someone else to start the session12:03
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fungittx: yep, our only other fishbowl overlaps with a qa session and some qa participants also expressed interest in the task tracking topic12:04
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ttxno, that should be fine12:04
fungiwe'll work out a co-chair for it12:05
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Ramanjaneyafungi: Thank you very much.  Can you please check the review link
RamanjaneyaIs it sufficient combine the two accounts?12:06
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fungiRamanjaneya: that looks like it may work, but i don't really know enough about stackalytics to know for sure (it's not an infra project, at least not yet). but a stackalytics core reviewer approved it, so probably fine12:15
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Ramanjaneyafungi: fine, thank you.12:17
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openstackgerritdaisy-ycguo proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a repository for I18N team (WIP)
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openstackgerritPino Toscano proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ambari images for sahara-image-elements
openstackgerritdaisy-ycguo proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add a repository for I18N team
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openstackgerritIsaac Beckman proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multinode interfaces on singlenode n-net create once.
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ekarlso < anyone wanna help me figure why this is breaking ?12:35
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kozhukalov_guys,could someone clarify the following: stackforge projects are to migrate to openstack. I'd like to add yet another subproject into fuel-* namespace. fuel-* projects are now on stackforge. but if I create a new project on openstack then I need to follow the doc, right? it is written in the doc that I need to create corresponding project in governence repo, but there is no fuel project t12:43
kozhukalov_heir and it looks like creating a new project team in governence means I need approval from TC.12:43
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openstackgerritJohn Garbutt proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add libvirt-lxc non-voting gate for nova
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sdaguecdent: +2, ttx how do you feel about ?12:47
cdentsdague: there's a chance it's going to get complicated if oslo.messaging is not capped in early branches .... :(12:48
sdaguecdent: right, I don't know what the liberty story is12:48
sdaguecdent: is there a gameplan on how to build better tests for oslo.messaging?12:49
sdagueso that we can catch this early12:49
cdentthe game plan is to change o.m so that the tests that are breaking (and the actually functionality too) is allowed12:49
ttxsdague: ask me again in two hours12:49
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cdentthe change was that wait() could only be called after stop() but it turns out that stuff actually relies on that12:49
cdentso 2.6.2 (which is being actively worked on right now) will allow that again12:50
sdaguecdent: gotcha12:50
cdent(this according to discussions with sileht)12:50
sdagueso it was a contract change in o.m that they didn't realize was one?12:50
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cdentThat would be one way of putting it. I'm not entirely sure the contract was ever explicitly one way or another.12:51
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johnthetubaguysdague: there are some folks looking at getting the LXC tests running, is this the right way to go about that?
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added murano plugin in murano.yaml
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openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed openstack/requirements: Bump upper constraints of oslo.config to 2.5.0
johnthetubaguysdague: I think they have a bunch of stuff passing locally, I guess the should maybe start in experimental rather than the check queue?12:53
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sdaguejohnthetubaguy: probably should also exclude liberty, but sure12:55
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silehtsdague, the contract was not explicited, we decide a while ago, we inform about the contract with warning and docs. 2.6.2 introduces a bug if the contract is not respected (instead of just warn user).12:55
sdaguejohnthetubaguy: it should go in experimental first12:55
sdaguefor nova and tempest12:55
sdaguebecause we really don't want an extra job on every change until it looks like it's reasonably stable12:55
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fungiyeah, if it's not expected to run successfully most of the time, non-voting check is sort of a waste12:56
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fungimight as well be experimental (so run on demand) until there's hope of letting it be voting12:56
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add Fedora 22 images to the tripleo cloud
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Promote the tripleo ha and ceph jobs to voting
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/gear: Add a wait method to jobs
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added barbican plugin in barbican.yaml
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mrmartinfungi: hi, I like to close the askbot git refresh issue, and this patch is related: how you see the timing for that? can we merge it during this week, or reschedule to next one?13:10
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mrmartinmy openid patch sits in the askbot-devel queue since september 9 without any useful comment, what you think about moving an askbot fork under openstack-infra repo?13:13
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mrmartinthe commit lead team is huge here, and I don't like to work for the queue.13:14
mrmartinteam / time13:14
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fungimrmartin: i've approved 231048 since the corresponding github prs merged13:15
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mrmartinfungi: ok, thanks, I hope the ask.o.o will survive that13:15
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mrmartinlet's check what happens when it really got merged on the instance.13:16
fungiif it doesn't, i can revert and manually roll the theme back13:16
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fungii'm hesitant to consider maintaining a fork of something as large as askbot without a lot more discussion with the team. we had some pretty bad experiences keeping our own fork of gerrit, for example13:20
mrmartinyeah, and puppet-vcsrepo13:20
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fungialso, i wouldn't want to further alienate the upstream developer(s?)13:21
mrmartinI'm nagging Evgeny to approve the pull request.13:21
fungiwell, puppet-apache and puppet-vcsrepo are small projects by comparison, but yeah even small forks are a pain13:21
mrmartinbut from other side we can provide better QA for the entire project using or CI.13:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Reset yum/dnf cache to correct location
fungiwe also have forks of lodgeit and meetbot for example, but those are mostly or entirely dead upstream so it's more undertstandable13:22
mrmartinand we can maintain a proper changelog and avoid introducing site breaking changes as it happened before.13:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Fix git repository refresh trigger issue of askbot
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mrmartinand of course we can get some allies, because other openstack companies using it in production.13:23
mrmartinthe askbot-devel upstream have 33 open pull request, some of them is sitting there since 2012.13:23
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added barbican plugin in castellan.yaml
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tripleo F22 periodic jobs
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bltavaresmorning folks. this changeset needs another +2 could someone help use with it please?13:46
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openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create shotgun project
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
mtreinishclarkb, nibalizer: ^^^ I think that should do the right thing13:49
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mrmartinfungi: ask.o.o still up and running, the patch was merged to system-config, I think this changeset won't trigger a refresh until next update of prod askbot.13:53
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openstackgerritIsaac Beckman proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multinode interfaces on singlenode n-net create once.
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openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Rebuild Plugin
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kirHi all, I've got the following after git pull ./ -d ~/VE/rally: PluginWithSuchNameExists: Plugin with such name: `base_context` already exists in `default` namespace. Any clue on that?14:09
kir^ sorry wrong IRC, plz ignore14:10
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fungimrmartin: want me to manually refresh it on the server?14:12
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mrmartinfungi: do you think we need that?
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fungimrmartin: probably. and it would be good to know whether it's working now rather than find out later it broke14:16
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mrmartinok, let's do it14:16
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openstackgerritChristian Schwede proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Cleanup floating ips and keypairs even if server unavailable
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fungii should be able to trigger it by rewinding the checkout to HEAD^1 and then letting puppet roll it forward again14:20
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fungiYour branch is behind 'origin/master' by 1 commit, and can be fast-forwarded.14:21
mrmartinon ask.o.o ?14:21
fungiyep, for /srv/askbot-site/themes14:22
mrmartinyeah, but it is not for themes only.14:22
mrmartinthe major thing is the askbot-devel repo14:22
fungiahh, will do that one too14:22
mrmartinbut on ask.o.o it is fixed to specific commit14:22
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fungioh, right, so it wasn't exposing the bug we were fixing for tracking a branch tip with askbot-themes14:23
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mrmartinbut wait, I see vcsrepo here:
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mrmartinoh, the puppet-askbot patchset is missing14:25
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i have reviewed the full stack of nodepool builder changes; by and large they look great, though i left a few almost-nitpicky comments as well as some suggestions for substantial changes (all of which should make things simpler, more robust, and less racy).14:26
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openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Rebuild Plugin
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i do have the entire stack in my head right now, so if you want to discuss any of that today, it might be productive.  :)14:27
jeblairjhesketh: ^14:28
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mrmartinfungi: yeah, it is just updating the theme, I need to commit the patch for the puppet-askbot vcsrepo -> git refactoring.14:28
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fungiyep, but at least we'll be able to see whether it rolls the theme commit forward and triggers notified/subscribed execs14:31
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mrmartinfungi: yeah, try it14:32
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openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Refactor vcsrepo to git resource to resolve refresh trigger issues
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Update nodepool launcher spec to avoid DB access
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mrmartinfungi: ^^ this will be the puppet-askbot change, but let's see how jenkins tests working first14:34
mordredjeblair, clarkb: do you know off the top of your head a way to get a python stack trace without an exception?14:34
jeblairgreghaynes, mordred: see
jeblairmordred: yeah, the traceback module lets you do that, one sec14:35
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mordredjeblair: sweet - ah - I see, got it14:36
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jeblairmordred: traceback.print_stack()  or  '\n'.join(traceback.format_stack())14:38
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tripleo F22 periodic jobs
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove redundant sections of tripleo job names
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: also, I think the first 5 nodepool builder changes are ready to land; do you want me to aprv them, or keep them around?  maybe look at my comments and let me know if you see anything that makes you want to rethink those.14:41
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mordredjeblair: I've got the call sequence working appropriately for the floating ip attach - but there is a second call to list_networks happening that I don't understand14:43
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mordredjeblair: AH! I do understand it - it's a thing I have a TODO for :)14:46
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greghaynesjeblair: sweet14:51
greghaynesjeblair: looks like its all easy stuff to fix in those patches to ill do that this morning14:51
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greghaynesjeblair: oh, lemme read the job_id bit...14:52
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Create neutron floating ips with server info
mordredjeblair, Shrews: ^^ I have tested that that works but have not fixed the unit tests yet14:54
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Update tox.ini to current standards
mordredjeblair, Shrews: I wanted to get eyeballs on the approach before bothering to do that14:54
jeblairmordred: double check my toxicity?
mordredjeblair: looks great14:55
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jeblairmordred: wow that's a lot of code. or we could do wait=wait.  ;)14:56
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anteayajesusaurus yolanda so have you made a decision about puppet-nslcd and which list it should be on? renamed or retired? currently it is on both lists:
mordredjeblair: I believe it winds up doing less calls :)14:57
nibalizerjeblair:  you may want to weigh in on!topic/puppet-community/cVlcfRMpf4U14:57
yolandaactually we don't use actively now, but we used on the past14:57
jeblairmordred: yeah, i'm reading it.  :)14:57
nibalizeror others who feel strongly about puppet hashrockets14:57
mordredjeblair: the wait=wait still has to be there - so the server gets after attach are still the same, but we can skip the attach calls14:58
mordredjeblair: :)14:58
yolandaanteaya, let me talk with jesusaurus today and we'll tell you14:58
anteayayolanda: okay, well actually I just need you to remove it from one list14:58
anteayayolanda: so please talk to jesusaurus and then edit the wikipage14:58
greghaynesjeblair: So the idea is to store the job_id -> snap_image to update info in process memory rather than in the db?14:59
yolandayes, he will be online soon14:59
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greghaynesjeblair: One small thing that loses is we cant restart during image uploads14:59
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix oslo.messaging+zmq+dsvm to run from master
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jeblairgreghaynes: hrm, but we would never get the completion signal for an image upload after a restart anyway15:00
greghaynesjeblair: oh, that is tied to the client who asked for the job?15:00
jeblairgreghaynes: yep15:00
greghaynesjeblair: ok, I agree with your idea15:01
jeblairgreghaynes: this sort of suggests a potential problem with the build-worker not having direct db access though.15:01
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jeblairgreghaynes: what if nodepool loses its job connection to the worker during an upload; we may leak an image into the provider.15:01
jeblairgreghaynes: we may just need to do leaked image pruning like we do for leaked instances.15:02
greghaynesjeblair: I wonder if we can make builders store some kind of extra metadata per image and allow nodepool to update state based on it15:02
Shrewsmordred: looking15:02
jeblairgreghaynes: oh, that's novel -- same approach, but actually conserve rather than destroy the image.  :)15:02
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mordredjeblair, Shrews: i have a solutoin for one of the TODO comments, btw15:03
mordredbut I can wait to push it until you're done looking at the current code15:04
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mordredShrews, jeblair: also, I'm testing that against bluebox with
openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add support for NodeJS Plugin
mordredand watching the debug output of the tasks running to track which things get run15:04
Shrewsmordred: any other providers?15:05
mordredShrews: nope. that's next15:05
mordredShrews: I wanted to get basic funtionality and your eyes on it before I test with everyone else15:05
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jeblairgreghaynes: i think either will be okay.  :) so, start storing nodepool metadata in the images like we do for instances, then on nodepool startup, look for images in each provider that are out of sync with the local db.  either delete them or update the local db to match (whichever floats your boat).15:05
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greghaynesjeblair: actually, we can tell if an upload succeeded in nodepool based on whether a image-delete job exists, is there anything else we might need to know?15:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/activity-board: OpenStack community activity report Q3, 2015
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Shrewsmordred: it is really odd to have an attach_ip_to_server() with an option to skip attaching, btw. just saying15:06
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mordredShrews: yeah - I'd like to also refactor that out before we land it15:06
greghaynesjeblair: ah, thats the issue - preserving upload metadata across reboots15:07
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greghaynesjeblair: Yea, I will make a test case after touching up the first handful of patches and see how it turns out15:07
jeblairgreghaynes: oh, actually, let's thing a little further -- what if nodepool is just _restarted_ during an upload, so it's still ongoing when nodepool starts... hrm15:07
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greghaynesThis is starting to sounds like sharing the db is the sane thing to do for now15:08
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greghaynesIt is also a nice make sure we dont break the world too badly checkpoint15:09
jeblairgreghaynes: let me check something with gear...15:09
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Removing cellspacing from the tripleo ci report
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Use the new shortened tripleo ci job names
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add the new periodic jobs
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openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Rebuild Plugin
greghaynesheh, with the job_id we can actually be pretty smart on restarts - we can see that we have a building snapshot and verify that the job_id is still running15:14
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jeblairgreghaynes: how can we tell it's still running though?15:15
greghaynesoh, status doesnt show that?15:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Update query for bug 1501558
openstackbug 1501558 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-net: libvirtError: Error while building firewall: Some rules could not be created for interface: Unable to update the kernel" [High,Confirmed]
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greghaynesI would still think database over that too - that is going to be an annoying/hard thing to code even if we could15:17
jeblairgreghaynes: we should try to avoid using status, it's really expensive (it takes several seconds to run usually), but i don't think individual job ids are listed.15:17
mtreinishyolanda, fungi, jeblair, mordred: if you get a sec: could use some love, we've been waiting for that cookiecutter repo for a while15:17
mtreinishsdague: ^^^15:17
greghaynesjeblair: ah, ok15:18
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sdaguemtreinish: +A15:18
sdaguein future you can do those in the other order15:18
sdaguegovernance depends on project-config, for established project15:18
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mtreinishsdague: I didn't do those, I picked it up from mkoderer15:19
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openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds the 1st initial package for upstream infra packaging
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jeblairmordred: GAH i installed gearman-job-server and i CAN NOT STOP THE DAEMON15:23
greghaynesjeblair: daemon threads?15:23
jeblair(because of systemd)15:23
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mordredjeblair: but why would you want to stop the daemon15:24
jeblairit keeps respawning it...15:24
openstackgerritIvan Udovichenko proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds the 1st initial package for upstream infra packaging
hroufungi, one theory re: #openstack-storlets, I noticed the GAURD is off (but its on on all other channels) but when I try to run "set #openstack-storlets guard o" I get a "You are not authorized to perform this command." - and I see why, I'm missing "+s" (i.e. SET cmd permission), could you try granting that to me (your account has that).15:24
jeblairand NONE of the THREE init system interfaces i have on my system work to stop it15:24
mordredjeblair: that's "better"15:24
mordredjeblair: you just don't understand what better feels like15:24
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bnemecWe're seeing a lot of "InterpreterNotFound: python3.4" in our py34 jobs.15:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Create tempest-plugin-cookiecutter project
bnemecIs this a known issue, or are we just lucky? :-)15:25
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bnemecI checked storyboard but I didn't see anything.15:26
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openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add support for NodeJS Plugin
fungihrou: i don't know if accessbot may unset that again later. i was looking to see if it turned off guard explicitly in the channel options but didn't spot why that should have happened15:26
nibalizermtreinish: I don't expect your change to work15:26
fungihrou: i agree it's odd that we have it set on our other channels15:26
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hroufungi, yea the two things I notice is guard is off and I don't have "s" privileges (though maybe that's normal)15:26
hroufungi,  we could try to set guard on ?15:27
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fungihrou: done15:27
mtreinishnibalizer: hmm, do I need to do more than just renaming the dir/repo?15:27
openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Refactor vcsrepo to git resource to resolve refresh trigger issues
hroufungi, ChanServ has returned !!15:27
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hroufungi, that's awesome, thanks a bunch !!15:28
nibalizermtreinish: given that change I think it will try to clone from the repo with the underscore, which does not exist15:28
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nibalizerso poo15:28
mtreinishnibalizer: hmm, I had it more explicity before but it was kinda ugly. So I thought it cloned $MOD into $MODULE_PATH/$MODULE_NAME and tried to be clever15:31
jeblairgreghaynes: yeah, so far i don't see a way for the worker to see that something has gone wrong with either the gearman server or nodepool while an upload is in progress and therefore, abort/delete an image.  i'll think about this more over breakfast.  :)15:31
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openstackgerritErno Kuvaja proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Update docs for i18n exception
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anteayabnemec: I think there was a thing with python3.4 and trusty packages?15:33
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anteayabnemec: I'm not sure if that is what is coming into play for you or not15:34
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anteayabnemec: but this job uses bare-precise so there goes that theory15:34
nibalizermtreinish: it was unable to find the class15:34
Shrewsmordred: i have concerns about the portability of this new code. left a comment15:35
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-lodgeit: Add mysql class to manage db, and configure db name
mtreinishnibalizer: sigh, ok I'll respin and just do an mv then15:36
clarkbjeblair: I believe greghaynes plan was to merge incrementally so I think he will wnat to land those15:36
clarkbjeblair: I need to wake up and catch up on comments15:36
greghaynesoooo sleeping in15:36
nibalizermtreinish: yea sorry :(15:36
bnemecanteaya: Yeah, I assume all of our py34 jobs are running on the same node types, so I don't know why some work and some don't.15:36
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anteayabnemec: only 8 hits in the last 24 hours15:37
clarkbgreghaynes: it has been months so I may be a bit slow on the uptake this morning15:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Block oslo.messaging 2.6.1 release
bnemecanteaya: They must have all been on patches I reviewed. :-)15:38
anteayaclarkb: yay sleep15:38
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
anteayabnemec: just for you15:38
anteayabnemec: we cooked this error up for just you, you're welcome15:38
* bnemec has the magic touch15:38
mtreinishnibalizer: ^^^15:38
openstackgerritRicardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/infra-ansible: Add initial support for creating volumes
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anteaya76 hits in the last week, all tripleo related15:39
clarkbjeblair: greghaynes for errors wouldn't the worker returns work fail or work exception then the client would update the db to delete?15:40
bnemecWeird.  We must have something configured wonky in our projects.15:40
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clarkbjeblair: greghaynes then we try again15:40
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clarkbbnemec: the job that you linked ran on precise which does not have py3415:40
greghaynesclarkb: Were thinking about the case where nodepool (or gearman server) restarts during an upload15:40
armaxfungi: did qa/infra design summit ge reshuffled to avoid conflict and as a result we don’t collide with anymore?15:40
greghayneswhich is plausible given how long uploads take15:40
anteayaclarkb: ah there we go15:40
clarkbbnemec: anteaya so you need to look at the jjb and zuul configs to see why it got scheduled that way15:41
greghaynesclarkb: There isnt a good way for the builder and nodepool to sync back up AFAICT15:41
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clarkbgreghaynes: wouldn't both sides treat that as a fail? I guess nodepool wouldn't but the worker might15:41
anteayaarmax: we can't change the times of our sessions, just what runs in them15:42
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armaxanteaya: right, I meant the content15:42
anteayaarmax: so I guess I am missing nodepool plugins15:42
anteayaarmax: the content of that session for infra has stayed the same15:42
greghaynesclarkb: The builder could do either, right now I think it would actually treat it as a success (the send work success would traceback but thats after it registers delete job). Nodepool would have no idea that the image uploaded15:42
anteayaarmax: thanks for letting us know, I haven't looked at any other projects schedule yet15:43
armaxanteaya: conflict is inevitable, I wonder how we can minimize the loss of a person attending a session vs another15:43
fungiarmax: it looks like the timeslot for that is still the same time as
anteayaarmax: well I think my time during that session is best spent with you15:43
clarkbbnemec: anteaya looks like tripleo just pushes everything into a job template that runs toci15:43
greghaynesjeblair: ^ Is that not true? If gearman or nodepool restarts, what happens when we send a work_complete from the builder?15:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Fix cap on python-glanceclient
anteayaclarkb: toci?15:43
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix oslo.messaging+zmq+dsvm to run from master
clarkbbnemec: anteaya so it likely doesn't do anything different for py34 which is the problem15:44
clarkbanteaya: Triple O C I15:44
anteayaclarkb: ah15:44
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anteayaclarkb: yeah, that would be it15:44
fungiarmax: was mainly worried since the neutron talk at that time mentioned tempest and there's a tempest-specific work session for qa at the same time15:44
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anteayamtreinish sdague care to join us?15:45
armaxfungi: agreed, unfortunately both Tempest and Neutron happen on Wed/Thu15:45
armaxfungi: but I could move the session to Wed morning15:45
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armaxfungi: then we should be good15:46
anteayaarmax: what time wednesday morning are you thinking?15:46
clarkbanteaya: bnemec hrm maybe I am wrong the jobs share a common prefix but get populated differently15:47
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clarkbI know what the problem is15:47
armaxanteaya: 12 is the earliest I can do15:47
openstackgerritIsaac Beckman proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Multinode interfaces on singlenode n-net create once.
armaxanteaya: qa sessions start at 2.5015:47
clarkb# Pass because job specified label is always correct. for tripleo jobs15:47
openstackgerritDaniel Watkins proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support finding files in child builds in trigger_parameterized_builds publisher
anteayaarmax: yes, was just looking at the qa schedule15:48
anteayaarmax: that looks like a good move, I support that15:48
clarkbanteaya: bnemec so we need to fix zuul/openstack_functions.py15:48
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armaxanteaya: ok, let me get that sorted15:48
anteayaarmax: thanks15:48
clarkbexcept we don't seem to do anything special for py34 there15:49
clarkbso weird15:49
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anteayaclarkb: in the zuul repo?15:49
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clarkbanteaya: no this is project-config15:50
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anteayayup, got it now, thanks15:50
bnemecclarkb: It may be because tripleo-common matches the tripleo re.15:50
clarkbI see python34 relies on our default of trusty in but tripleo override happens before15:50
bnemecI don't think any of our other projects that run py3 jobs would.15:50
clarkbbnemec: ya thats it15:50
timrcSadness.  Exhausted all my upstream review time and only made it through 2 reviews.15:50
* timrc should maybe not look at zuul code it volume is important.15:50
bnemecMaybe we should rename the toci jobs to tripleo-ci.15:51
anteayatimrc: :(15:51
anteayatimrc: quality is important15:51
anteayatimrc: thank you for looking at the zuul code15:51
anteayatimrc: quality is a lot harder to measure than quantity15:52
anteayatimrc: follow your heart15:52
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: yeah, that's what i was just checking -- a work complete gets no response regardless of the disposition of the client.  so even if the client has disconnected, the worker has no way of knowing the client didn't recieve that.15:52
anteayatimrc: not what someone else can measure15:52
kozhukalov_ttx, fungi, anteaya, clarkb, others, could you please help to clarify the following. stackforge/* are going to migrate to openstack, right? then if I want to create a new project in openstack (not under big tent), is it necessary to create a corresponding governence patch?15:52
anteayakozhukalov_: hi15:52
clarkbkozhukalov_: it is not15:52
timrcanteaya: Oh I'm mostly joking.  I <3 zuul.15:52
anteayakozhukalov_: correct15:52
greghaynesjeblair: awesome15:52
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: (we can tell if the server has disconnected though)15:52
timrcBut reviews are generally time consuming.15:53
anteayatimrc: it is a slow infiltration that steers your decision making15:53
anteayatimrc: and yes reveiws are time consuming15:53
kozhukalov_anteaya, thanks very much15:53
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anteayakozhukalov_: so what clarkb said, do not create a governance patch to create a project in openstack/15:53
anteayakozhukalov_: only if you want to be listed in the govenance repo do you create a governance patch15:54
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i'm starting to have a silghtly more radical idea...15:54
fungikozhukalov_: or looking at it the other way, what makes your project an official part of the big tent is whether it's listed in the governance repo, not the git namespace on it15:54
bnemecclarkb: So is the right thing to do here to rename the toci-based jobs so they don't collide with tripleo-common?15:54
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clarkbjeblair: greghaynes however the client not receiving work complete isn't the end of the world if we have the client look at what image upload jobs are present?15:54
clarkbbnemec: ya I think we want to base it on some key that better separates them15:54
greghaynesclarkb: image-delete is what it would need to look at I think15:55
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greghayneshrm, no, thats an external-id15:55
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added murano plugin in rally.yaml
kozhukalov_fungi, great you made this even more clear, thank you guys a lot.15:55
greghaynesjeblair: oh?15:55
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bnemecclarkb: Cool, thanks.  I'll coordinate with derek to get that done (I think it's going to mess up his tripleo ci status tool).15:56
greghaynesjeblair: I am diagramming this out because I do think this might neeed some real change...15:56
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clarkbbnemec: we could temporarily but a rule for tripleo-common-python34 ahead of the generic tripleo rule too15:56
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clarkbbnemec: to call int othe default trusty stuff15:56
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i'm thiking of pushing more in the direction you both are heading with the 'look at functions' idea, which is to stop using the db for provider images entirely.  possibly also stop using it for disk images too.15:57
derekhbnemec: clarkb read back a little, so you need to rename the jobs ? would this help
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derekhbnemec: don't worry about the status tool, its a quick fix15:57
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clarkbderekh: we either need more specific rules in the host selection code or we need names that don't match the less specific rule15:58
bnemecderekh: No, because they still start with -tripleo, which is what is looking for.15:58
bnemecWhich also matches tripleo-common and causes it to occasionally get precise nodes for its py34 job.15:59
bnemecMy thought is we rename the toci jobs to *tripleo-ci* to differentiate them from all the tripleo-* projects.15:59
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: something like: have nodepool ask all image workers for known images at startup.  image workers call a method on nodepool whenever their set changes.  image workers schedule their own builds and uploads.  image workers get their information from glance metadata or the filesystem.15:59
mtreinishnibalizer: :/ that didn't work either:
derekhbnemec: I'm confused, we want the tripleo-common to stop matching the regex, is that the one we should be renaming?16:02
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anteayaderekh: the py34 jobs need trusty nodes, and fail on precise16:03
bnemecderekh: Well, this would also be a problem if we added a py34 job to any other project that starts with tripleo.16:03
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anteayaderekh: currently the py34 jobs match the regex for common which schdules them on precise nodes sometimes16:04
bnemecIt's because the regex looking for toci jobs is very generic and matches pretty much anything with tripleo in the name.16:04
bnemecI'm betting this is hitting tripleoclient too.16:04
derekhbnemec: so you want to change the regex to  *tripleo-ci*  and the toci based job names16:05
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bnemecderekh: Yeah16:05
greghaynesjeblair: clarkb so builders would be the source of truth for what is in the clouds and would be pushing new external id's into nodepool whenever an upload succeeds?16:05
bnemecIt is hitting tripleoclient too.16:05
anteayabnemec: yes if you look at build_name in the logstash query i sent you you see the client show up too16:06
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: that's what i'm thinking.  it's like a distributed system.  :)16:06
derekhbnemec: got ya, makes sense, sorry I though you just wanted to change the jobs names and nothing else, didn't understand what that would fix16:06
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derekhbnemec: makes sense16:06
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greghaynesjeblair: clarkb Seems like a good idea, I am going to think on it a bit16:07
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anteayafungi: so for the infra sessions I didn't see a session leader specified, does the original proposer lead, are you picking a leader, or first one to the front of the room when the session starts?16:08
jeblairgreghaynes: cool.  for implementation, i think it probably makes the most sense to stick with 'share the db' as far as possible down the stack, then switch to this in its own step.16:08
derekhbnemec: are you doing patches or am I?16:08
bnemecderekh: I'm writing the commit message now. :-)16:08
derekhbnemec: cooleo16:09
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Avoid name collisions with tripleo-ci jobs
greghaynesjeblair: Agreed. The whole "ask for all images" is pretty straightforward mapped on to "the state of all images is kept up to date in the db by builders"16:10
bnemecderekh: anteaya clarkb: ^ will hopefully take care of it.16:10
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derekhbnemec: gotta catch a train, will check back in a bit16:11
* anteaya looks16:11
mordredShrews: agree with both - thanks16:11
bnemecderekh: Sounds good, thanks.16:11
anteayaclarkb: multinode made it into cross project:
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mordredShrews: although, I'll admit, I have NO idea what the 'right' thing to do with multiple fixed ipv4 addresses is16:12
mordredShrews: perhaps we should throw in that case and leave it as a todo until someone comes back with a description of he usecase?16:12
derekhbnemec: took a quick look, it may need to change in other files, see here (I think)
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jogoclarkb: is multinode stable enough to gate on yet?16:12
greghaynesjeblair: clarkb What is the thought on getting there from the current patch stack? Should we try to rework it where builders are responsible for scheduling from the start?16:13
anteayabnemec: you also have to change anything that was using gate-tripleo-{jobname} in zuul/layout.yaml16:13
anteayabnemec: else your layout.yaml test will fail16:14
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bnemecanteaya: ack, thanks16:14
anteayajogo: hey!16:14
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anteayajogo: there are three sets of multinode jobs, nova, neutron with dvr and neutron without dvr16:15
greghaynesjeblair: clarkb hrm, how do builders decide who is responsible for building what in that setup?16:15
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Implement complex permissions for worklists and boards
greghaynes(or uploading what)16:15
anteayajogo: I'm looking for new docs clarkb put up16:16
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i'd recommend sticking close to what we have up until "decouple nodepool db and config from builders".  the stack up to there can probably go in with few changes; i'd still change to waiting for jobs though rather than passing ids through the database (the problems with that don't arise until the processes are decoupled)16:17
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Update $resource wrappers to use new permissions API
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Add UI for complex permissions on boards and worklists
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i don't think builder responsibility changes -- builders read from a config file (or command line args or whatever) which disk images they are responsible for building16:17
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fungianteaya: i can flesh them out, but i'll put the proposers as session leaders as i start building out the etherpads for each16:18
greghaynesjeblair: clarkb Yep, so if I am running 2 builders how does one of them pick that they are the one who builds a specific image and the other does not16:18
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fungiand then we can adjust as needed16:19
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jeblairgreghaynes: yeah, if we haven't added that to a config file we either need to do that, or add it to the command line for the builder16:19
anteayafungi: ah okay, makes sense16:19
kashyapAny hints on what's the Gate issue dhellmann is referring to here:
* kashyap is about to step out, will checkback scroll later tonight or morning16:20
anteayawhere does devstack-gate documentation get published?16:20
* anteaya realizes she has never looked before16:20
anteayakashyap: have you asked dhellmann?16:20
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: i think in the spec we said config file.16:20
jogoanteaya: but are any of those jobs stable as single node16:20
anteayakashyap: he is really good at explaining what he means16:20
openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add support for NodeJS Plugin
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anteayajogo: my understanding is that clarkb expects them to be stable as single node before they move to multinode16:21
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Avoid name collisions with tripleo-ci jobs
greghaynesjeblair: The way it is specd and written this isnt a problem we have becuase gearman picks one for us16:21
anteayajogo: do you feel they are not stable as single node?16:21
* anteaya is keeping jogo engaged in conversation until clarkb finished feeding a baby16:21
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jeblairgreghaynes: no, in the spec it says that the config file tells the builder what things it should know to build -- that way we don't have, say, windows machines building rhel images.16:22
anteayamorning zaro16:22
openstackgerritTomas Bezdek proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for Rebuild Plugin
greghaynesjeblair: Yep, so theres two aspects - the images I can build and then only picking one if you have overlapping sets16:22
jeblairgreghaynes: ah, i see, you're talking about intentionally having multiple builders for a given image for scaling.16:23
greghaynesjeblair: Yes16:23
greghaynesjeblair: We can get rid of that, it just means that as a user you have to be smart about configuration16:23
jesusaurusanteaya: I just finished chatting with yolanda and have removed puppet-nslcd from the "to move" list, we are going to let it retire16:23
anteayabnemec: that's more like it, let's see what tests come back with16:24
anteayajesusaurus: thank you16:24
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: maybe we can still have nodepool schedule the image builds then.  it just spews a build-image:<foo> for each <foo> in the config file once a day.  :)16:25
anteayajesusaurus: and thanks for following up16:25
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb: but then doesn't do any followup after that -- the builder takes it from there and handles uploads when the build is finished, and then pings nodepool to update its external_id cache when the uploads are finished.16:25
anteayaClint: can I request you update the stackforge-rename list when you have a moment? actually may as well freshen both lists and see where we are today16:25
Clintanteaya: sure16:26
anteayabnemec: what happens if a repo has tripleo-check on it and the tripleo-check job fails?16:26
greghaynesjeblair: clarkb SGTM16:26
Shrewsmordred: yeah, i have no idea what the right thing is16:26
anteayabnemec: can the patch still be merged?16:26
anteayaClint: thanks16:26
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bnemecanteaya: It can.  Cores are supposed to not merge anything failing, but it's not enforced.16:27
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openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot: Refactor vcsrepo to git resource to resolve refresh trigger issues
anteayabnemec: grand thank you, so then we don't need to get reviews from every ptl that has a tripleo-check job changed16:28
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anteayabnemec: but if the jobs fail you need to monitor them so we can fix them16:29
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tripleo F22 periodic jobs
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove redundant sections of tripleo job names
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Promote the tripleo ha and ceph jobs to voting
anteayabnemec: yes?16:29
bnemecanteaya: Absolutely16:29
anteayabnemec: thank you16:29
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anteayaclarkb: where does this get published? or does it?16:31
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fungimrmartin: was when puppet updated the theme repo, for reference16:37
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: test config for gate-tempest-dsvm-cells-neutron
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Create neutron floating ips with server info
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Push port filtering to neutron
mordredShrews: ^^ fixed your comments16:38
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anteayawith tuesday being cross project and friday being meetup we essentially have 2 days for what we used to fit in 416:41
anteayamy hopes that folks will be briefer that in the past I don't think will be sustained16:41
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clarkbanteaya: it doesn't get published it is just part of the repo16:43
anteayaclarkb: okay thanks, would explain why I couldn't find it16:44
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clarkbjogo: in my opinion yes, the test platform itself is fine16:44
clarkbjogo: but I think openstack still has the occasional trouble with it16:44
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anteayaarmax: please use the word boring more frequently in your session descriptions, I can spot a few more places where it could be used16:47
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clarkbjeblair: greghaynes seems reasonable (keep stack mostly the same until proper split out, give workers a bit more responsibility based on their configs)16:47
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clarkbjogo: if I was making the decisions we would've swapped out the normal nova net and neutron single node tempest full runs with multinode runs during liberty16:49
* armax wonders if he should take anteaya seriously seriously 16:49
anteayafungi: I don't see pleia2's translation tools has a slot:
clarkbthey don't take any extra time and catch a whole host of additional bugs in things like migrations and networking16:50
anteayaarmax: :)16:50
anteayaarmax: boring boring boring boring16:50
openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Fix toggle ci button for CS2 on Gerrit 2.11
armaxanteaya: boring^416:50
clarkbanteaya: maybe check with thingee to see if i18n is done scheduling?16:50
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anteayaarmax: exactly16:50
anteayaclarkb: good point16:50
fungiyeah, right now i only see their contributors meetup session for friday in the schedule16:51
anteayayeah me too16:51
anteayaI asked in -dev16:52
anteayaspread the love16:52
fungidaisy mentioned something on the i18n ml about deciding/scheduling session topics in their meeting today16:52
fungiseeing if i can find it again real quick16:52
clarkbbnemec: change to fix python34 tripleo job lgtm16:52
bnemecclarkb: Nice, thanks16:53
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bnemecI'm fixing the followup changes that I apparently screwed up rebasing.16:53
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fungianteaya: er, looks like the agenda she posted in didn't mention session topics16:53
anteayabnemec: away they go, lets watch what happens after they merge16:53
anteayafungi: I concur16:54
anteayafungi: have we a back up plan to give pleia2 air time for translation tools?16:54
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anteayaI guess it could fold over into meetup16:54
anteayathe friday catchall16:54
fungipleia2: do you happen to know what's going on with i18n team session scheduling?16:55
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anteayais she grace hoppering today?16:55
* anteaya checks the grace hopper schedule16:55
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jogoclarkb: makes sense, the problem has been no one fixing the OpenStack bugs the job triggered  for some time now16:55
jogoclarkb: is anyone even driving the nova/neutron side changes to make the job stable16:56
clarkbjogo: regXboi has been working the neutron side. Nova net just works for the mostpart16:57
* regXboi goes and reads scrollback16:57
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jogoclarkb: looking at my old graph -- things don't look good, but then again I don't know how accurate that graph is anymore16:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Avoid name collisions with tripleo-ci jobs
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anteayashe is probably getting ready for her talk, she speaks today:
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anteayaregXboi: meet jogo16:59
anteayajogo: this is regXboi16:59
clarkbjogo: that graph looks very wrong at least for changes against d-g I expect multinode to pass16:59
anteayaregXboi likes graphs16:59
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regXboijogo: for the neutron side of things, there are links in the neutron docs themselves to the latest from graphite16:59
clarkbjogo: but its not like I babysit it either so something could have fallen over16:59
* regXboi goes and gets link16:59
jeblairSpamapS: i'm trying to understand gearman reducers.  i was going to ask some specific questions in case you knew, but every time i try to formulate a question, i confuse myself more.  so... do you have any knowledge or hints further than what you wrote in ?16:59
clarkbjogo: ultimately it is the projects responsibility not mine (and why we have a summit sessionto figure out what we want to be responsible for)16:59
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regXboijogo: see
anteayattx dhellmann: yay! \o/17:00
anteayattx dhellmann nice work17:00
anteayajogo: and thank you for bringing up the topic17:00
regXboijogo: it is the opinion of the neutron infra contacts that multinode-full and multinode-dvr aren't ready yet - but yes, there are outstanding patches to address the most common -dvr failure modes17:01
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anteayapleia2: ah there you are!17:01
anteayapleia2: how is it going?17:01
pleia2anteaya: should be linked there17:01
jeblairSpamapS: like, i'm trying to figure out which workers get a job when GRAB_JOB_ALL is called... who calls the reducer (server or client or..?)... etc...17:01
* regXboi notes he isn't one of the neutron infra contacts17:01
pleia2anteaya: good, back to conferencing now :)17:01
* regXboi agrees that he does like graphs17:02
anteayapleia2: that is all you need for translation tools?17:02
SpamapSjeblair: So I don't have _much_ more than what I wrote in that submission.17:02
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Undecorate cache decorated methods on null cache
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SpamapSjeblair: I did play with them a bit.17:02
mordredSpamapS: ^^ you grok the cache decorators well - mind looking at that?17:03
fungipleia2: anteaya: oh! it's a cross-project track session. no wonder i couldn't find it17:03
dhellmannanteaya: :-)17:03
SpamapSjeblair: the gearmand that receives a response to a job with a reducer will immediately submit that response to the reducer queue inside itself.17:03
SpamapSmordred: looking17:03
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anteayafungi: ah okay yes, I didn't see it in cross project either17:03
anteayafungi: looks like she is good then17:03
fungi"working groups"17:04
SpamapSjeblair: it does not go through the whole client side hashing of unique to find a new gearmand or anything like that. The idea is to reduce the latency of map/reduce.17:04
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jeblairSpamapS: so WORK_COMPLETE on a job with a reducer triggers an internal SUBMIT_JOB for the reducer?17:05
anteayafungi: I didn't even know those existed, thank you17:05
SpamapSmordred: ugh, yeah that looks legit. I really wish there were a better way to use those decorators. :-P17:05
SpamapSjeblair: correct17:05
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mordredSpamapS: ok. so it doesn't look completely wrong.17:07
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tripleo F22 periodic jobs
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove redundant sections of tripleo job names
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jeblairSpamapS: is a SUBMIT_JOB_REDUCE still just a single job?  like if you wanted to M-R with 3 partitions, would you SUBMIT_JOB_REDUCE 3 times, then 3 workers GRAB_JOB_ALL, and when their work is done, gearmand ships it to the reducer in 3 more SUBMIT_JOB-like calls?17:08
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jeblair(the conflation of the gearman server and client in the source makes this a bit hard to follow)17:09
SpamapSthe source is diabolical at times17:10
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mordredShrews, GheRivero: ?17:11
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SpamapSjeblair: I'm refamiliarizing myself with it. Its so great that krow refuses to let me take control and merge my documentation fixes because he's afraid gearman quality will go down.. but there's zero documentation on this feature.17:11
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clarkbSpamapS: ya I remember when you mentioned the feature and I went "what no that doesn't exist see this protocol spec doesn't say anything about it"17:12
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jeblairSpamapS: the source says "If any of the units of work error, the job will be aborted."  i guess that's all just happening gearman client side?  i don't see a way for the server to tie those things together.17:13
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AJaegerdhellmann: is the i18n team page for the project-team-guide now ok? Daisy and myself are happy ;) and would appreciate a review
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SpamapSjeblair: I agree, I'm digging in libgearman right now actually ;)17:14
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fungiAJaeger: do you happen to know why the i18n discussions ended up in the conference working groups track rather than in a design summit i18n track? sort of weird17:14
AJaegerfungi: no idea at all17:15
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mrmartinfungi: thnx, it looks ok, and not reexecuted on next puppet runs. I can improve with a http service restore on theme resource, that picks up the changes.17:15
SpamapSjeblair: ok yeah, I'm nuts, sorry17:15
SpamapSjeblair: you're right. It just adds the reducer argument server side.17:15
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fungiAJaeger: especially weird since there _is_ an i18n track for the summit which has only a friday contributor sprint scheduled in it17:15
SpamapSjeblair: and libgearman does in fact submit the reducer jobs.17:16
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AJaegerfungi: that's weird17:17
AJaegerfungi: better ask Daisy but she's asleep now...17:17
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SpamapSjeblair: and to be clear, the worker itself is expected to submit the reducer jobs17:18
fungiAJaeger: yeah, i just a few minutes ago realized i missed the opportunity to crash the i18n meeting and ask during open discussion17:18
fungioh well17:18
SpamapSjeblair: so it is entirely just a way to not have to embed that in a serialized payload structure.17:18
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SpamapSjeblair: and also to get libgearman to enforce the group error part.17:18
SpamapSjeblair: at least, thats my guess17:19
jeblairSpamapS: jeez.  that's a lot of code for essentially no change in server behavior.  :/17:19
SpamapSjeblair: did you have a specific use case for it?17:19
SpamapSjeblair: well we could abuse it for metadata. :)17:19
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jeblairSpamapS: heh, but we just pass around json all the time anyway.  serialized payload data isn't a problem for anything we use. :)17:19
SpamapSjeblair: I imagine it was done in a situation where extreme speed was wanted, and so serialize/deserialize was too much trouble.17:19
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/requirements: Add pep257 as a requirement
SpamapSjeblair: it seems like a microoptimization to me.17:20
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jeblairSpamapS: i can see that.  though at least our imagined version where the server invoked the reduce potentially had a larger benefit (1/2 to 1/3 network traffic depending on what you're doing)17:21
SpamapSjeblair: right, though that would require that partitioners have some way to enumerate responses.17:22
jeblairSpamapS: i was wondering if we had a broadcast mechanism yet.17:22
clarkbianw: re we need to have duplicates in order to safely clean up the PROJECTS list and return it to a minimal state17:22
dhellmannAJaeger: sorry, bad timing, but it's on my review list17:22
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clarkbianw: process will be add duplicate toe $jobdefinitions (eg, run for X time with duplicate grenade listing, then merge removing it from d-g's default list17:23
clarkbianw: if we want to warn about duplicates once we have a minimal default list (plan for that is to base it on devstack's default list + neutron) thats fine17:23
clarkbianw: but in the interim its just noise because we will know that we hvae dups17:24
SpamapSjeblair: in the protocol though, no.17:24
AJaegerdhellmann: thanks - that's enough for me ;)17:24
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AJaegerdhellmann: that was fast - thanks!17:25
SpamapSjeblair: and persistence .)17:26
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anteayafungi: I got a reply to my question in -dev17:28
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clarkbmtreinish: tempest-lib is usually installed from pypi during tempest runs right? or is always from source?17:29
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mtreinishclarkb: it should always be installed from pypi17:30
mtreinishthe only exception is on tempest-lib patches which obviously will need to install it from source17:30
clarkbmtreinish: great so its like all the other libs (I am trying to reduce the default PROJECTS list in d-g then add extr aprojects where needed to the job defs)17:31
clarkbmtreinish: doing this should speed up d-g runs by ~5 minutes17:31
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mtreinishoh, cool17:31
AJaeger5 mins? clarkb, great!17:31
clarkbAJaeger: ya my initial test patch showed a good return on it17:32
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clarkbbut it does mean we have to be a bit more explicit when doing non default things17:32
clarkbseems like a reasonable trade off17:32
dims_AJaeger: when you get a chance, please peek at - we had a dsvm full job that was not picking up oslo.messaging from git source17:32
* AJaeger has been removing documentation files in the last days, now we upload for Install Guides instead of 42 MB only 26 MB. Not sure how much faster builds are....17:32
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AJaegerclarkb: Saw your patch and liked what you did but didn't review it fully...17:33
jeblairSpamapS: so gearhorn is a layer on top of gear, where a worker asks the gearhorn worker to add the worker to a subscription list for a topic.  then clients ask the gearhorn worker to send fanout messages to that topic, and the gearhorn worker invokes a job for each subscriber with a unique name for that subscriber-topic.  the gearhorn worker is a singleton.  that all right?17:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Fix floating ip removal on delete server
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade: Pass wait to add_ips_to_server
clarkbAJaeger: I am starting to split it up by PROJECT entry type. So grenade was first (it was easy), then clients, now looking at some of the infra tools like pypi-mirror and jeepyb which I htink I can straight up remove17:34
clarkbAJaeger: I didn't want to really get into it until after liberty release and that just happened so hoping to get some effort behind this in the near future17:35
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SpamapSjeblair: no you can have n gearhorn workers17:35
SpamapSjeblair: but otherwise yes it works like that.17:35
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jeblairSpamapS: they need to share a db state?17:35
jeblairSpamapS: (so the topic subscription lists are consistent?)17:36
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mtreinishnibalizer: I think I figured it out, my if is never getting hit, because MODULE_NAME is ending up as health. So I need to change it before17:36
SpamapSjeblair: they don't have to share the db state, no. There's a queue of register/unregister messages that is also gearhorned to all the other gearhorns. ;)17:36
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SpamapSjeblair: but it is pretty badly prone to worker death... you'll get queues that have no worker emptying them.17:36
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AJaegerdims_: please double check...17:38
jeblairSpamapS: huh, i missed that in the code -- so a gearhorn worker receives a subscribe job, it then fans-out that subscribe job to all other gearhorn workers (because gearhorn workers themselves subscribe to a gearhorn-worker-subscription topic?)17:38
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SpamapSjeblair: I'm refamiliarizing myself.. I may be quoting my fantasies, and not what got implemented.17:39
AJaegerclarkb:  looking forward to the changes..17:39
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jeblairSpamapS: i hear you, i usually live 6-12 months in the future.  multiple realities are hard to keep straight.17:40
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove jeepyb and pypi-mirror from PROJECTS
openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
mtreinishclarkb, nibalizer: ^^^ I think that should work17:41
SpamapSjeblair: Ok yeah, I remember now, I had to let go of gearhorn worker sync via gearman. The shared state is the way they do it, so, via a mysql db.17:41
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Cleanup jeepyb and pypi-mirror special casing
jeblairSpamapS: ok.  i mean, it sounds like a plausible future improvement (assuming you don't recurse to death).  :)17:42
SpamapSjeblair: so every time we get a fanout message we query the list of subscribers.. making it very live, and very expensive. ;)17:42
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SpamapSjeblair: could obviously implement caching to alleviate that, or maybe use something like consul/zk to keep track of subscribers allowing update of the list via watches/blocking reads.17:43
SpamapSjeblair: one thing I'd like to note.. as I got deeper into this, it became apparent to me that I was, in many ways, chasing Kafka.17:43
jeblairSpamapS: i really like the idea.  i love the idea of layering something on top of gearman like that which is then just a service that's generally available to anyone on the system.17:43
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix oslo.messaging+zmq+dsvm to run from master
dims_AJaeger: Right you are as always :)17:44
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack/requirements: Stop special casing jeepyb and pypi-mirror in test
SpamapSjeblair: I like the idea too, gearman's foundation is that you can build up just what you need, rather than a whole solution.17:44
SpamapSjeblair: note that the originators of gearman used it like this.. with persistence happening in workers, not gearmand17:45
SpamapSthe gearmand persistence thing is really, really stupid.17:45
SpamapSIt seems like a good idea.17:45
SpamapSbut it is just misguided.17:45
jeblairSpamapS: (note i haven't implemented it in geard ;)17:45
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SpamapSjeblair: yeah, don't. :)17:45
SpamapSjeblair: but we do need coalesce17:45
nibalizermtreinish: unrelated to your change.... why are we passing in hostname? Puppet(facter) knows the hostname17:46
jeblairSpamapS: can you turn 'coalesce' into more words?17:46
SpamapSjeblair: I'm about to start suggesting using gearman as a cache-coalescer for thundering-herd protection in Keystone. :)17:46
reedShrews, mordred: the shade tutorial is almost complete, it's missing only the piece about Object Storage and a second pass with other clouds
clarkbsdague: did devstack ever end up using os-loganalyze via d-g? I think I can just remove that project from the list as well17:47
mordredreed: ZOMG you are AWESOME17:47
mtreinishnibalizer: well I didn't want to name the vhost localhost:
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SpamapSjeblair: every job submitted by clients to a single gearman server with the same unique ID should result in a _single_ job submitted to a worker, and the result is then sent to all of the clients waiting for a response.17:47
mtreinishbut you're right I don't need to pass it in17:47
mtreinishnibalizer: and ugh, that didn't work either:
jeblairSpamapS: yes, agreed.  i glossed right over that since we weren't directly using it.17:48
SpamapSjeblair: this is useful for cache refresh, as it reduces the number of concurrent cache refreshes for any given key to n(servers) .17:48
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SpamapSit's actually the original reason gearman was created.17:48
SpamapSto be a complement to memcached17:48
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SpamapSwhat people have found is that you can get similar effects by using soft timeouts in memcached and polling it periodically...17:49
SpamapSbut that is wasteful. the gearmand solution requires no polling.17:49
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nibalizermtreinish: foiled!17:50
* SpamapS would love to get to a place where we're actually efficient enough to care about how hard we're hitting the memcache servers. ;)17:50
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nibalizermtreinish: mind if i push a patch to your change? I have a plan17:50
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mtreinishnibalizer: go for it17:51
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create openstack/puppet-openstack-release-tools
EmilienMcrinkle, nibalizer: please look ^17:51
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jeblairSpamapS: so the thing that got me asking whether we had broadcast yet was this conversation clarkb and greghaynes and i were having earlier about nodepool.  we're talking about moving more intelligence into image build workers, and doing so in a way that the workers do not need to share database state.  the workers would report what images they know are available to nodepool, and it would update its in-memory state acco17:52
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Be explicit about projects list for reqs and pbr
jeblairSpamapS: that will work just fine for the forseeable future, however, if you built a system with more than one nodepool server, there would be a problem, because only one of them would get the job registering new image information.17:54
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anteayazaro: some good gerrit 2.11 feedback on the infra ml post17:54
jeblairSpamapS: this isn't really a problem because we're nowhere near comprehending what a multi-nodepool system would even look like.17:54
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SpamapSjeblair: you could also have them push that information into a small intermediary store like consul and just have nodepools watch consul for updates.. ;)17:55
SpamapSIf it's truly ephemeral, just have consul store everything on tmpfs. :)17:55
jeblairSpamapS: yes, i think that's actually probably the right system -- since that's more like 'shared system state' than job distribution...17:55
jeblairSpamapS: however, it would be easier just to have them keep sharing the mysql db.  :)17:55
anteayazaro: sorry, -dev ml post17:56
SpamapSRight, and it feels like the reason consul/zk/chubby/etc. exist.. as a source of truth for caches.17:56
nibalizermtreinish: so I think the problem is not its in the apply test17:56
jeblairSpamapS: so my complexity alarm is going off with "mysqld+geard+consul" :)17:56
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nibalizerwhich uses zuul-cloner to do the work we need17:56
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SpamapSjeblair: the workers don't have any mysql do they?17:57
SpamapSjeblair: or they will?17:57
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mtreinishnibalizer: oh, that could be. Then does it side step the clones in install_modules completely?17:57
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Make elastic_recheck git source and revision configurable
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Populate the data_source in elastic-recheck.conf
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Allow elastic-recheck daemon args to be specified
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Allow elastic-recheck-uncategorized custom options
sdagueclarkb: we've got the plugin, now, and I thought it was working. Though I haven't poked at it recently17:57
SpamapSjeblair: also what about just geard+consul, no mysql?17:57
asselinmtreinish, as promised ^^17:58
nibalizermtreinish: for openstack-infra modules yes17:58
greghaynesjeblair: I think making them use mysql is the correct first thing to do17:58
clarkbsdague: ok but that doens't require it go in the default PROJECTS list right?17:58
nibalizerman gerrit needs renames17:58
mtreinishheh, well that would explain why my patch doesn't work17:58
sdagueclarkb: not for the local case17:58
clarkbsdague: any jobs that use d-g and that plugin can add it to the PROJECTS list. I will grep to see if they exist and add it in17:58
greghaynesSpamapS: They already depend on mysql, there is some code to remove that dependency which started this discussion17:58
clarkbsdague: doesn't look like those jobs exist17:59
sdagueclarkb: sorry, that context is so far paged out at this point17:59
jeblairSpamapS: that's what's up in the air -- due to the similarity with the current system, we'll probably start with having them share mysql state.  but then we can choose to drop that if we communicate the information over gearman, or some other way.17:59
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openstackgerritBruno Tavares proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Update documentation on statsd metrics generated.
clarkbsdague: the context is I am trying to reduce the default PROJECTS list to be closer to a default devstack run in order to stop cloning and setting up every project on every d-g run17:59
clarkbsdague: this produces a non trivial job run speedup17:59
greghaynesjeblair: SpamapS I think that some kind of db is probably a better mechanism for sharing that state rather than having nodepool poll and coalesce data18:00
sdagueclarkb: ok, sure18:00
sdagueso in the base case, it should not be there18:00
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clarkbsdague: since os-loganalyze isn't used by any d-g jobs currently it can come out of the list and any jobs that do need it can explicitly add it rathe rthan adding it by default18:00
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sdagueclarkb: yes, I agree18:00
jeblairSpamapS: tbh, though i'm not sure why if we stuck with a shared-state model, we would change from mysql to consul.  other than we wanted to play with consul.  :)18:00
clarkbsdague: cool18:00
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openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add script to facilitate project renaming in project-config repo
SpamapSjeblair: the only reason to switch to consul would be to rapidly update state on all consumers.18:01
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Remove os-loganalyze from PROJECTS
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sdagueclarkb: so, if project-config grows a param for "also this project" it would be pretty easy to remove a lot of those18:01
SpamapSjeblair: if you are querying the db for every operation, and doing many operations, then a consul like system is going to do the dirty work of keeping everybody informed.18:02
jeblairSpamapS: this system does a bunch of work, then calls "sleep(10)".  :)18:02
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greghaynesSpamapS: jeblair One potential reason to use something like consul is if we wanted to make nodepool not responsible for scheduling the initial image builds (re: what I was saying earlier about allowing N builders to be able to build an image but pick only one to do it)18:02
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sdagueclarkb: I would actually remove all the libraries18:02
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SpamapSjeblair: yeah, if you're slow polling, there is zero reason to add a new piece. :)18:02
openstackgerritClint Adams proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP - testing the rename scripts
greghaynesSpamapS: jeblair It is really good at the whole pick one node to do X thing18:02
clarkbsdague: yup, doing it piecemeal18:02
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sdaguebecause they don't get used unless the job specifies LIBS_FROM_GIT18:02
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clarkbsdague: is first part of that18:03
SpamapSgreghaynes: yes it is, but meh. ;) At the rate nodepool wants to do things... implementation beats most efficient method.18:03
fungioh, some toggle to add ZUUL_PROJECT to the PROJECTS list? i could see that being a common pattern18:03
greghaynesSpamapS: Agreed18:03
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clarkbfungi: currently its just based on the jobs themselves but that isn't a bad idea18:03
jeblairclarkb, fungi: that only works for _really_ simple things18:04
clarkbanyways I have something like 10 changes to start all of this18:04
clarkbmaybe I should use a common topic18:04
jeblairclarkb, fungi: ie, something with, say, no client library.18:04
clarkbPROJECTS-cleanup will be the new topic18:04
clarkbalso infra-root 234467 wouldbe a good one to merge18:05
fungitrue, i guess a lot of these job definitions are adding more than one project because ofhaving clients18:05
clarkbthough I guess release is over so may be too late :/18:05
jeblairclarkb, fungi: any job where you need to add 2 or more projects to the project list wouldn't work with that18:05
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
nibalizermtreinish: lets try that18:05
clarkbjeblair: yes current mechanism is be explicit in the jobs18:06
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jeblairgreghaynes: how would you use consul to schedule an image build?18:07
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greghaynesjeblair: all the workers would be doing a loop of (if image foo hasnt been built since X, update last_built_time to now and start build)18:07
jeblairgreghaynes: oh, check-and-set?18:07
clarkbsdague:,n,z all topic'd now18:08
mordredgreghaynes, jeblair: I was actually JUST thinking about optional consul support in shade18:08
mordredgreghaynes, jeblair: but hadn't gotten to a point where I fully wanted to suggest it as a sane thing18:08
nibalizermordred: what would that do?18:08
jogoregXboi: nice to see someone working on this.18:09
mordrednibalizer: optionally do the same thing that the thread mutexes do in a single-node case18:09
jogoclarkb: have fun convincing people to work on it18:09
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/project-config: set up sahara repo acls correctly
jeblairmordred: what thread mutexes?18:09
clarkbjogo: well "we don't care" would be a valid output of that session18:09
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clarkbjogo: and then I can remove the jobs and stop caring too :)18:09
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anteayaI think folks want it18:09
mordredjeblair: looking at ways to port in the nodepool caching of list_servers/get_server in a way that makes sense for general consumption18:09
anteayathey just think it is already in play and they just use it18:09
jogoclarkb: hehe, fair enough18:10
anteayathey missed the part where it needs to be maintained18:10
anteayamultinode comes up every mid-cycle for every project18:10
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anteayaalong the lines of "let's just use multinode"18:10
clarkbanteaya: yes a lot of people immediately jump to it18:11
clarkbwithout realizing it needs to be given more care18:11
sdagueclarkb: is there any way to build,cm from the projects list?18:11
sdaguebecause that seems like a synchronization nightmare18:11
anteayaclarkb: yes, that is exactly the part they miss18:11
anteayathe care18:11
jeblairmordred: hrm.  we cache so that we don't have to perform 1000 http requests; using consul might cause us to perform 1000 http requests.  :)18:11
clarkbsdague: ya we could just use projects.txt, I am not sure why we don't currently18:11
anteayaedit: every mid-cycle that I have attended for various projects18:11
anteayait might not have come up at the puppet mid-cycle though18:12
clarkbsdague: I can try to followup with lifeless on that later today and update the chang eor write a new one if we want to do that instead18:12
jeblairgreghaynes: if we stick with shared mysql, we may need to trove-ify nodepool.18:13
mordredjeblair: 1000 http requests to a thing that scales and doesn't fall over when you make 1000 http requests is different than 1000 openstack api calls :)18:13
jogoanteaya clarkb: but somehow no one wants to  fix the nasty bugs that multinode  catches?18:13
mordredjeblair: but yes - it would _definitely_ be an optional feature if it ever goes in18:13
sdagueclarkb: ok, I reviewed the ones that looked ready to merge and approved18:13
clarkbjogo: pretty much18:13
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clarkbsdague: thank you18:13
anteayajogo: that seems to be the current result, yes18:13
mordredjeblair: I was mostly thinking about how to deal with shared cache (which shade supports via dogpile) in a multi-node situation without thundering herd18:13
sdaguethat should mean the d-g no dups lands, which will let the project config ones land if you reapprove them, then get new test results on the grenade and clients one18:14
mordredso - it seems we're all at least thinkig about similar things18:14
anteayajogo: regXboi is working on getting up to speed on that18:14
jeblairmordred: yeah, i just think caching this info is more about _not_ doing something.  :)18:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Handle new release versions in doc publishing
SpamapSjeblair: it's worth noting that consul has the notion of a blocking read18:14
SpamapSjeblair: as does zk18:14
mordredjeblair: it is for sure - I do not thnk I'd recommend consul locks for nodepool server operations in its current config18:14
* regXboi reads scrollback again18:14
SpamapSjeblair: you say "send me this when it changes"18:14
anteayajogo: ah the bugs the tests reveal, yeah well yeah, doesn't seem to be a crowd on those so far18:14
anteayaregXboi: you are popular today18:14
greghaynesjeblair: hrm?18:14
fungiclarkb: manual testing of 234467 exhibits some issues18:15
greghaynesjeblair: I dont understand what trove-ify means18:15
clarkbfungi: on which projects? I tested nova, neutron and ironic18:15
anteayaClint: thank you18:15
fungithough it merged too quickly18:15
anteayaI did that18:15
mtreinishnibalizer: failed on a permissions error18:15
anteayafungi: should we revert?18:15
fungiclarkb: i tested on neutron and nova18:15
jeblairgreghaynes: i believe nodepool's db is local now; so we'd probably want to move it into trove for multi-host access.18:15
clarkbfungi: oh gah its failing now because they have proper tags18:15
greghaynesjeblair: ah. yep18:15
clarkbfungi: when I tested it was just a,b,rc18:15
anteayaclarkb fungi sorry, should we revert?18:16
fungii figured18:16
clarkbfungi: and those sorted correctly18:16
lifelessclarkb: ?18:16
nibalizermtreinish: probably wants sudo on the mv? just guessing18:16
clarkblifeless: in the pbr and requirements integration tests they rely on the d-g PROJECTS list to dtermine which projects to test with18:16
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clarkblifeless: should we change that to use the projects.txt file in requirements intsead?18:16
lifelessclarkb: yeah. I want to nuke those tests18:16
clarkbor that :)18:16
greghaynesjeblair: I think sticking with mysql to share state is going to be the way to go at least at the start so we should do that - doing something different is neat but not worth the effort yet IMO18:16
mtreinishnibalizer: yeah18:16
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Revert "Handle new release versions in doc publishing"
sdaguelifeless: in both pbr and requirements?18:16
lifelessclarkb: is d-g's list going ?18:17
jeblairgreghaynes: ++18:17
anteayaclarkb: fungi ^^18:17
sdaguelifeless: I thought you only wanted to get rid of one of them18:17
clarkblifeless: I am trying to reduce the list to match up with devstack defaults so we don't setup every project ever on every test run18:17
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clarkblifeless: then the jobs themselves can add in any additional projects that they want18:17
lifelessclarkb: ok, well no need to block on my plans - switch them to use the list from requirements is fine with me18:17
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clarkblifeless: sdague I beleive the reason we do it this way is so that we get hte latest versions, but I think we can grab requirements first, cat projects.txt into the PROJECTS list and gofrom there18:18
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clarkbanteaya: fungi I am trying to decide if its more or less broken with that revert :)18:18
lifelesssdague: I want to remove the dvsm runs from pbr itself18:19
clarkbanteaya: fungi: with the revert we publish kilo era docs18:19
sdagueclarkb: also, interesting fact, we spend 10 minutes doing pip installs in every run18:19
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clarkbanteaya: fungi without the revert we publish rc docs18:19
nibalizermtreinish: you want to re-up?18:19
lifelesssdague: and I'd like to make the integration runs much much more targeted18:19
sdague - scroll to bottom18:19
regXboiwell, I would say that as far as multinode in neutron - we had it voting and pulled it down because we were getting false positives18:19
nibalizerI've got my head in a different thing mostly right now18:19
sdaguelifeless: yeh, makes sense18:19
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lifelesssdague: on requirements, I want to move the requirements code to a separate repo18:19
fungiclarkb: thoughts on the modification i suggested in my review on 235529?18:19
sdaguelifeless: right, wfm18:19
anteayaclarkb fungi is up feel free to merge once you have made a decision or tell me and I will abandon18:19
lifelesssdague: and apply it to liberty and master branches from an installed copy18:19
clarkbfungi: I don't see your comments18:19
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lifelesssdague: and I think at that point we want branch-specific tests in each branch, with the actual logic tested in the new repo18:20
regXboisure, we'd like to put it back up again, once we convince ourselves that the failures are real18:20
clarkbregXboi: well any failure is real :)18:20
lifelesssdague: I don't see a place for 'try to install everything' in that world (but I still see a place for very end to end tests)18:20
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mtreinishnibalizer: sure, that would help. I've got a couple other wheels in motion right now18:20
clarkbregXboi: if openstack fails thats a failed run18:21
regXboiclarkb: yes, the question is if the failure is in the code you are changing or something else18:21
clarkbregXboi: IMO not really18:21
clarkbregXboi: thats how everyone wants to act but thats not the reality of integration testing18:21
sdaguelifeless: sure, the install everything was part of bootstrapping and finding issues18:21
regXboifolks are working on getting the "something elses" nailed down18:21
sdagueand ensuring coinstallability18:21
fungiclarkb: sorry, i meant on 23446718:21
sdaguebut now that pip handles that a bit better, it's fine to not do it in these jobs18:22
nibalizermtreinish: kk18:22
regXboibut that is ongoing18:22
fungiclarkb: omitting the .* so it only matches release tags18:22
clarkbregXboi: reality with integration testing is that failures in any piece have to be owned by the whole18:22
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
regXboiclarkb: i'm not arguing with you, i'm just stating the situation18:22
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clarkbfungi: I think we can do that now that all projects have release tags18:22
lifelesssdague: yeah, I don't think it was wrong to do it - just answering your question about 'did I only want to get rid of one of the jobs'18:22
lifelesssdague: more fully than 'yes' :)18:22
clarkbfungi: but couldn't do it when I was hacking it together because nova 0.9.0 won18:22
fungisure, makes sense18:23
clarkbfungi: anteaya let me push that update18:23
anteayaregXboi: clarkb's point is that while that perception is popular it actually is flawed18:23
anteayaregXboi: and is part of the reason the 'something else' grows in size and complexity18:23
anteayaclarkb: sure18:23
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anteayaregXboi: everyone wants to shove in 'just their change'18:24
regXboianteaya, clarkb: I *understand* that - and there are patches I can point to that hopefully will address *some* of that18:24
regXboibut I can't wave a magic wand and make it all go away :)18:24
anteayaregXboi: but in fact everyone needs to own the consequences of that change and the resultant tests18:24
anteayaregXboi: sure, neither can we18:24
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clarkbregXboi: ya I understand what you are saying18:24
anteayabut not perpetuating that belief is helpful18:24
openstackgerritBruno Tavares proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Adds missing statsd counter increment.
reedmordred, calebb is more awesome than me, he's done the hard parts :)18:25
regXboifrankly, I'd like to see recheck go away18:25
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regXboibut that's not going to happen18:25
anteayaregXboi: it does cause many behaviour isses, to be sure18:25
openstackgerritDavid Lyle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove selenium job from stable branches
fungithere are certainly enough people convinced their change is not contributing to failures, even convincing others sometimes, and then making the situation worse18:25
anteayathis is the social change aspect of our work, the actual hard part18:25
anteayaand I would argue far more important than the code in question18:26
mtreinishregXboi: if recheck went away people would just change commit messages or something to get another pass at it18:26
regXboimtreinish: I know - too many ways to game the system18:27
anteayait is approach and taking responsibility for actions18:27
anteayasomething taht I will admit many companies make very hard for contributors18:27
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements: Update oslo.serialization to 1.10.0
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Ignore non release versions when publishing latest docs
regXboiwell, you all are also at the boundary of my comfort zone - I can talk about dvr-multinode-full in more detail than I can talk about multinode-full because I've spent more time looking at its failure modes18:29
clarkbfungi: anteaya ^ how is that?18:29
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openstackgerritBruno Tavares proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Adds missing statsd counter increment.
anteayaregXboi: understood, thanks for being willing to engage in the conversation about the bigger picture :)18:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack-dev/hacking: Update docs for i18n exception
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anteayaclarkb: I didn't test the last one and I should have, how do I test your change?18:30
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clarkbanteaya: copy the git tag ..... command and run it in some update project repos18:30
clarkbanteaya: then check the version that is printed is the most recent one tagged18:30
anteayaI will try that18:31
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Define $YUM for centos-minimal
anteayathank you18:31
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mtreinishnibalizer: success:
mtreinishwell sort of it failed18:33
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mtreinishbut it failed for an issue in puppet-openstack-health18:33
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openstackgerritLin Hua Cheng proposed openstack/requirements: Raise upper bound on django_openstack_auth <1.2.0
nibalizermtreinish: nice!18:34
nibalizerwe'll also 'have' to patch the stuff in the beaker testing chain18:34
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AJaegerclarkb: with your new regex I get 0.9.0 in an old nova tree, after pulling everything is fine18:36
anteayaAJaeger: 12.0.0 after pulling?18:36
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clarkbAJaeger: ya I think this basically only works now that the release has happened18:36
AJaegeranteaya: yes18:36
fungiclarkb: lgtm as long as we're forcing 3-component versions in tags (pbr makes it more or less necessary but our zuul release pipeline regex is not that strict)18:36
AJaegerclarkb: ok18:36
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fungiclarkb: is it possible this would get used for releases of non-pbr things?18:37
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clarkbfungi: ya I updated the counter to only accept 318:38
anteayachecked nova, neutron and cinder, 12.0.0 7.0.0 7.0.018:38
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clarkbfungi: I guess it could be, though the jos are in the release pipeline which enforce that too18:38
fungiyeah, i saw which is why i'm asking. might want to just consider ^\([0-9]\+\.\?\)\+$ there instead?18:38
fungiclarkb: our zuul release pipeline regex is not that strict18:38
clarkbfungi: I thought it was?18:39
clarkboh when did that change?18:39
fungioh, did my change for that merge? i thought it was contentious18:39
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AJaegerclarkb: ironic is fine as well - 4.2.018:39
clarkbfungi: it iddn't I thoguth ti did18:39
clarkbfungi: I will update to go back to allow >018:40
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funginow i can't find my change to alter that in zuul/layout.yaml either. i may have abandoned it18:40
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dims_anteaya: when you get a moment... please bless
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anteayakeystone 8.0.018:41
anteayawhich matches18:41
* anteaya puts on her robe and stole, searches for her mitre18:41
fungiclarkb: ahh, right i did abandon back in june18:41
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Define $YUM for centos-minimal
pabelangerfungi: been down and out for the last few days.  Have some time to talk about timrc for grafyaml-core?18:42
fungipabelanger: sure, let me just browse recent reviews on that repo18:42
pabelangeralso, if somebody minds approving:
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pabelangerfungi: thanks18:43
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anteayadims_: done18:44
anteayapabelanger: you okay?18:44
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pabelangeranteaya: Yup, just recovering18:44
pabelangersure be full steam by Monday18:45
anteayapabelanger: glad you are better, sorry to hear you were sick18:45
anteayapabelanger: just in time to vote!18:45
fungipabelanger: interestingly, 231470 was approved more than a week ago and never merged18:45
fungii wonder what's wrong there18:45
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pabelangerfungi: 231470 is reported as merged for me in gerrit and git18:46
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pabelanger232741 is pending approval18:47
fungihuh, after i forced gertty refreshing it showed up merged. now slightly less confused ;)18:47
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openstackgerritMoises Trovó proposed openstack-infra/zmq-event-publisher: Override parameters with environment variables
openstackgerritMoises Trovó proposed openstack-infra/zmq-event-publisher: Override parameters with environment variables
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clarkbI am trying to update the regex and failing18:50
clarkbso hopefully will have something that works in the near future18:50
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fungiclarkb: what's the issue? just working out which sed matchers need escaping?18:51
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Ignore non release versions when publishing latest docs
clarkbfungi: yes exactly that :)18:52
clarkbfungi: turns out * doesn't need the \ because raisins18:52
fungiclarkb: it's a pita18:52
fungithat's often where i spend most of my time refining calls to sed. trying \ in various places18:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix oslo.messaging+zmq+dsvm to run from master
fungitimrc: looking through,n,z just to see what sorts of comments you've had on proposed changes there18:53
anteayaclarkb: regXboi told me he knows a bit about regexs18:54
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regXboioh sed18:55
regXboiyeah that's a mess18:55
fungiregXboi: not so much a problem statement as just griping about inconsistent escaping of some special characters18:55
regXboifungi: exactly18:55
fungithings like {}()|+ needing a prepended \ but []* not even though they're also special in most shells18:56
openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet gating jobs to fuel-library
openstackgerritDavid Lyle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove selenium job from stable branches
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Switch to kibana3 link generation
clarkbmtreinish: ^ found another case where we write query links18:58
clarkbsdague: mtreinish jogo mriedem you all ok with switching to kibana 3 today? its the first step in upgrading elasticserach because we need a client ui that is forward and backward compat18:59
mriedemi still have to test it18:59
asselinclarkb, fyi I'm working on kibana3 also. Do you plan to upstream to pyelasticsearch>=1.0 ?19:00
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clarkbasselin: kibana and pyelasticsearch are compltely independent19:00
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clarkbasselin: so not sure what the relationship is19:01
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asselins/upstream/upgrade/ I though they were related....19:01
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clarkbasselin: kibana3 is a js client web ui thing and pyelasticsearch is a python lib19:04
clarkbasselin: I do not think they are related in any way19:04
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asselinsorry I confused kiban3 with elasticsearch19:05
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clarkbasselin: I would like to upgrade elsaticserach, but first step is getting the webui to a point where old and new are supported19:06
clarkbso starting there.19:06
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fungitimrc: pabelanger has replied to your -1 comments on
clarkbfor the elasticserach upgrade itself will probably pick a slow time, have gearman queue upall the work requests then take the whole cluster down, make new trusty hosts, attach cinder volumes, install elasticsearch and bring it back up again19:07
clarkbits a bit involved because elasticserach doesn't allow for rolling upgrades usually19:07
ekarlso < anyone see why this is failing ? Are the swift errors there the reason ?19:07
anteayabnemec: do you think we fixed it?19:08
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clarkbekarlso: no tests were listed in the test listing19:08
clarkbekarlso: so it returned 1 and failed19:08
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ekarlsowhere is the error listed clarkb ?19:09
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bnemecanteaya: I don't see any recent hits in logstash, and I do see toci jobs passing so it looks good so far.19:11
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fungitimrc: i agree with pabelanger your attention to grafyaml changes seems to be steady and your comments and attention to detail are improving. given the relative youth of the repo i'm adding you as a core reviewer but you ought to see if you can find time to tackle some bugs/features in it to gain a deeper understanding of the code there19:12
anteayabnemec: yay19:12
anteayatimrc: yay!19:12
timrcpabelanger: Does is not seem weird to expose session/session.headers in the dashboard object instead of the grafana object?  I dunno19:13
timrcpabelanger: I'm happy to remove my -1 for the sake of expedience, it just doesn't seem like an obvious place to check that information.19:13
anteayaclarkb: are you happy with your patchset 2 regex?19:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/grafyaml: Replace oslo_config dependency with argparse
anteayaclarkb: it works for me for nova, neutron, keystone and cinder19:15
clarkbanteaya: ya that should address fungis comemnts and better reflect reality of the release pipeline regex19:15
anteayaclarkb: grand I will +219:15
timrcfungi: Haha shit.19:16
timrcI didn't realize I had core already :) I tried to rever that to just a +2 to let pabelanger do the +A19:16
anteayatimrc: language19:16
timrcanteaya: Shoot! I meant shoot!19:16
anteayatimrc: I heard shoot19:16
wznoinskdims: I'm fairly new to os-testr, could you triage the bug by any chance?
openstackLaunchpad bug 1506215 in os-testr "--regex and --blacklist_file does not work together" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Waldemar Znoinski (wznoinsk)19:17
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dimswznoinsk: let's hop onto #openstack-qa and ping mtreinish there19:17
dimswznoinsk: os-testr is under QA and mtreinish has been the main person driving it. i just joined that as well19:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: set up sahara repo acls correctly
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fungitimrc: well, you caught it anyway19:21
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fungitimrc: removing your w+1 is sufficient to stop a change merging, so that's fine19:22
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mtreinishclarkb: I've played around with it a bit, I think it'll be fine19:24
mtreinishwe probably should set up our own default dashboard to be similar to what we have now though19:24
mtreinishbecause the default setup is just different enough that it took me a little while to find everything19:25
clarkbmtreinish: ya we can start with the default logstash dashboard (thats what puppet does)19:25
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clarkbmtreinish: were you using ^19:25
clarkbit should be very similar, it gives you a query, the frequency bar graph thing, and the listing of the results19:25
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mtreinishyeah, the logstash dashboard is good. I was using the other sample dashboard just now (forgot about the logstash one, which I used briefly yesterday)19:27
mtreinishonly suggestion on that would be changing the default filters to be timestamp and message19:28
mtreinishright now it prints all the fields19:28
clarkbmtreinish: in the results listing?19:28
clarkblet me see how hard that is to do19:28
mtreinishit's checking 2 boxes on the ui, I'm sure there's a json config somewhere for it19:28
clarkbya I think you can set it up the way you want then export to file then we can host that file, I will look at it19:29
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openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add puppet gating jobs to fuel-library
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clarkbmtreinish: yup that was easy19:32
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/requirements: python-heatclient>=0.6.0
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: test config for gate-tempest-dsvm-cells-neutron
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mtreinishclarkb: ok cool19:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove selenium job from stable branches
pabelangertimrc: looking now19:34
mtreinishclarkb: that and the date range thing I mentioned yesterday were all that pops out to me19:34
clarkbjesusaurus: ^ I am going to write a followup change to puppet-kibana to write out a different logstash dashboard19:35
mtreinishotherwise it's seems to be the same just with different colors19:35
jesusaurusclarkb: cool19:37
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jesusaurusclarkb: we can also disable super-frequent refresh rates19:38
clarkbjesusaurus: I am not too worried aout that as its off by dfeault right?19:39
jesusaurusi dont remember what the default is19:39
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jesusaurusbut i think the 5s and 10s refresh intervals are a bit excessive19:40
clarkbjesusaurus: ya I can remove them19:40
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Use custom logstash dashboard
clarkbmtreinish: jesusaurus ^ that should do all the things19:45
krotscheckI'm working on a puppet module to set up an NPM registry. It's likely to require its own volume for data storage, and I remember there being a place where our infra boxes normally mount those volumes. Is that /opt? Is there a better place for me to put the couchdb data directory than, say, /opt/couchdb?19:46
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clarkbkrotscheck: /opt is usually the ephemeral drive. We don't want to mount the volume anywhere that gets written during boot as that introduces a race. /opt/couchdb would be fine19:47
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krotscheckclarkb: Sweet19:47
krotscheckclarkb: Also, I had to write ruby to make this thing stateful.19:47
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anteayaClint: have you had a chance today to look into the patches for the requirements changes at all?19:49
mtreinishclarkb: cool, thanks19:49
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: DO NOT MERGE: test config for gate-tempest-dsvm-cells-neutron
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clarkbkrotscheck: fun19:53
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mtreinishnibalizer: so I'm looking at the apply failure, and I'm clearly missing something:
mtreinishnibalizer: but that is definied in the puppet-openstack-health's init.pp:
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mtreinishand I include openstack_health in the patch19:54
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mtreinishthat pattern worked for me the last time I did this19:54
kashyapanteaya: Thanks (for the response in the scrollback).  I'll let Doug take a look when he can, instead of spamming him :-)19:54
anteayakashyap: okay19:55
anteayaand welcome19:55
nibalizermtreinish: uh yea thats ... odd19:56
anteayafungi: I'm looking at to see if any paths need to be changed, I see no mention of stackforge in the file19:57
anteayafungi: so I'm going with no changes required in this file for Saturday's rename19:58
fungianteaya: agreed, i confirmed that yesterday19:58
anteayafungi: ah sorry I missed that19:58
jeblairanteaya: yeah, we have a no-stackforge policy for that, but good to see we didn't slip.  :)19:58
anteayaI will make note of that in the etherpad to save me doing this step again19:58
fungianteaya: and for requirements there's like 7 lines that need changing in master (i didn't check the stable branches but they're likely similar)19:58
anteayajeblair: oh good19:58
anteayafungi: I'll look at that now, thank you19:58
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anteayaput on your stupid questions incoming hat19:59
fungifor those i think we can just propose hand-crafted patches as they're simple19:59
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anteayasounds good, I will try my hand20:00
fungiit's really just the project-config patch that needs some programmatic solution so we can repeat it quickly tomorrow and have confidence it's similarly correct to the earlier test runs20:00
anteayayup, confirming a file and then looking at diffs henceforth is saving me time20:00
clarkbdid yolanda say anything about puppet-nlscd?20:00
anteayayes, it shall be retired20:00
anteayathey removed it from the to be moved list20:01
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anteayaclarkb: thanks20:01
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Clintanteaya: not yet, i'm a bit sick20:02
anteayaI don't know if we have a patch topic for the renames20:02
anteayaClint: I'm sorry to hear that, get better we need you tomorrow20:03
anteayaClint: I'll do the patches, thanks for letting me know20:03
anteayaClint: drink fluids get rest20:03
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Clintanteaya: ok20:03
anteayaClint: do you think you will be better by tomorrow?20:03
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Clinti hope so20:03
anteayaClint: if not is there anything special we should know about how you execute the scripts?20:04
anteayaI hope so too20:04
krotscheckclarkb: Question. There's two different options for this npm mirror. One option is just include the registration documents, the other includes all binaries. npm has moved from having all binaries in the couchdb to having them available via CDN, so that's nice, but I'm not certain what the benefit might be to mirror all those things.20:04
anteayaI'll go with topic:stackforge-retirement20:04
* anteaya waits to hear objections20:04
Clintanteaya: pretty much just run in the project-config git repo with data/stackforge-renames as input and it should do the right thing20:04
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anteayaClint: very good, if we don't see you after 14:00 utc we will just move ahead20:05
anteayaand thanks for the awesome scripts20:05
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anteayaand good health to you20:05
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fungikrotscheck: assuming this is for putting them on our per-region mirror servers, then i don't think the cdn abstraction buys us anything20:07
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create openstack/puppet-openstack-release-tools
krotscheckfungi: Ok. I'm a bit worried about whether this will improve performance at all though, I... have had bad experiences with couch.20:07
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fungikrotscheck: well, i _can_ see a potential to store metadata in couchdb and then serve the files from the filesystem with apache on the same server if you think it's a big performance difference20:08
krotscheckfungi: That's just it, I have no idea.20:09
krotscheckI don't know what couch's performance is re: downloading binaries.20:09
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clarkbwe definitely wanta the binaries to be local to the mirror20:11
krotscheckAlright, I'll... go do that.20:11
clarkbkrotscheck: do they provide for some method of syncing the binaries outside of couch?20:12
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krotscheckBasically they reimplemented couchdb's replication in a node process.20:13
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clarkblooks like is what we want?20:13
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clarkbaccording to their blog post about turning off fullfat20:13
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/requirements: Change paths for renamed projects
krotscheckclarkb: Huhn. I like this.20:14
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet-murano: enable beaker jobs
clarkbinfra-root mtreinish has given rough go ahead for anyone else want to weigh in before I approve? I want to get that in today if possible20:16
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anteayaclarkb: you are the person for all things kibana20:17
anteayaclarkb: so as far as I am concerned I support you fixing any fallout20:17
anteayago clarkb20:18
clarkbanteaya: it is my intention to fix any fallout :)20:18
clarkbbut it is a different tool and figure people might want to scream fi they don't like the new tool or whatever20:18
anteayaclarkb: I know, which is why I have such confidence in my position20:18
anteayameh we have to have new tools sometime20:18
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anteayaI can't see it interfereing in anyway with the rename, which is my priority20:19
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fungiyeah, the implementation looks technically correct. i have no fear of new kibana, and if the qa team are comfortable (or desirous) then i say plow ahead20:19
clarkbanteaya: ya thats why I figured it was good thing to do this week, shouldn't cause problems for any of the rename stuff20:19
anteayapycon ca is looking for volunteers:
anteayaclarkb: awesome, great timing then20:20
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: WIP Allow to unset assignee/milestone for bug with no activity
mtreinishfungi: I wouldn't say I desire it20:20
fungimtreinish: oh but you DO!20:20
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Allow to unset assignee/milestone for bug with no activity
mtreinishbut its close enough to what I'm used to that I don't care20:20
mtreinishand I kinda prefer the newer colorscheme20:20
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add delete command to CLI
anteayamtreinish: apathy ftw20:20
anteayamtreinish: ha ha ha20:20
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: retire beaker-upgrade jobs
fungisee, there you go. better colors20:20
fungithat's how i usually gauge programs20:21
clarkbmtreinish: I bet you do want new es though, the newer api has some neat stuff in it, I feel bad that I haven't taken time to work towards upgrading (its just a pain because you can't do online rolling upgrades)20:21
anteayafungi: ha ha ha20:21
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anteayafungi: while I'm thinking of it, can you share with me your updated set up for how your workstation won't shut down on saturday?20:22
mtreinishclarkb: yeah, newer es would be cool20:22
anteayaI'm curious20:22
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fungianteaya: i copied my ssh key to my netbook20:22
anteayafungi: perfect20:22
anteayaso when it shuts down you can keep going20:22
fungiso backup computer i can switch to basically instantly20:22
clarkbjesusaurus: ready to do this kibana thing?20:23
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anteayayup, sounds good20:23
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mtreinishclarkb: fwiw, the biggest kibana user I know of is mriedem, so you might want to double check with him too20:24
asselinpuppet question: I'm trying to make this configurable: but the value is used here: and can't resolve it.
jesusaurusclarkb: i was about to finally eat lunch, gimme 30 minutes?20:24
clarkbjesusaurus: sure20:24
clarkbmtreinish: ok he said he would check it out, I can wait and see what he says20:25
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clarkbmriedem: not to rush you but we value your feedback on kibana3 :)20:27
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openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Allow to unset assignee/milestone for bug with no activity
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mriedemi'm on it20:32
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krotscheckclarkb: Annoyingly enough, this may work better than all the ruby I just wrote.20:33
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lifelessok, offline while house is sprayed...20:34
krotscheckBut. Well. Meh.20:34
clarkbkrotscheck: hahaha20:34
lifelessif anyone needs me, use twitter/g+/etc/etc.20:34
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openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/requirements: Change paths for renamed projects
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anteayafungi: do you think I should bother with a patch to juno/stable for requriements/projects.txt?20:37
clarkbanteaya: juno is going to be around until end of november according to the yvr summit etherpad20:37
clarkbanteaya: so probaby would be good to have20:38
anteayavery good20:38
fungiyeah, what he said20:38
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asselinnibalizer, crinkle do you have a few minutes to help out with question above?20:38
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mriedemanteaya: like what?20:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Avoid division by zero in case there are no failures
openstackgerritAnita Kuno proposed openstack/requirements: Change paths for renamed projects
mriedemclarkb: i have a dashboard....20:42
mriedemtime to get lost20:42
mriedemoh right, i've used this in a class and i was having a hell of a time just plugging in query strings20:43
clarkbmriedem: the logstash dashboard it ships with is what we will use20:43
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clarkbmriedem: so on the default index.html is a link to that dashboard it should say if yo uare using logstash click here or whatever20:43
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mriedemso like file:///home/mriedem/git/kibana/src/index.html#/dashboard/file/logstash.json20:44
crinkleasselin: the parameter is $::elastic_recheck::uncat_cmd_options not $::elastic_recheck::uncat_cmd20:44
clarkband that should match kibana2 pretty closely20:44
clarkbmriedem: ya that20:44
crinkleasselin: puppet 3 won't reach into the middle of the manifest and pull out the local variable $uncat_cmd20:44
clarkbmriedem: we hvae a few local changes to make a few adjustments that mtreinish suggested20:44
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asselincrinkle, yeah...what's the best way to make it configurable?20:44
mriedemclarkb: ok yeah, so i got my test query in there, tinkered with filters as usual20:45
crinkleasselin: make which part configurable?20:45
clarkbmriedem: cool thanks for checking20:45
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mriedemfor some reason i can't add filters to the query but just clicking the magnifying glass next to said filter on the left side20:46
anteayamriedem: context for those patches:
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Ignore non release versions when publishing latest docs
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anteayamriedem: this is part of the renameing everything in stackforge in order to retire it which is happening this saturday20:46
asselincrinkle, I'm trying to add this part to the command: $uncat_cmd_options = ''", where it can be overriden and applied to $uncat_cmd. The issue is that wants it resolved upfront20:47
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clarkbmriedem: you click the triangle which doe sa drop down action, then click the +20:47
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asselincrinkle, so should I just make those parameters to class elastic_recheck::cron ?20:47
openstackgerritMoises Trovó proposed openstack-infra/zmq-event-publisher: Override parameters with environment variables
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clarkbmriedem: you can also put them in the query directly just like with kibana2, the nice thing about adding filters the kibana3 way is you can update the query while keeping the filters fixed20:47
asselincrinkle, another thing is that before these classes are 'included' but now to override them I can't 'include' them anymore....20:49
jesusaurusclarkb: alright, im ready20:50
clarkbjesusaurus: ok approving now20:50
asselincrinkle, actually, looking some more, Idon't know why elastic_recheck needs them at all. Any reason not to move these to the cron class?
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add openstack-health api server
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greghaynesjeblair: Trying to figure out what the last plan we had was for builders so I can update the spec. Was the game plan for nodepool to trigger a build over gearman and then that node becomes responsible for uploading the image immediately after the build completes?20:53
openstackgerritCedric Brandily proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: Allow to unset assignee/milestone for bug with no activity
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crinkleasselin: not as far as I know, doesn't look like it's being used in that class20:53
jeblairgreghaynes: i've had some further thoughts; i was about to write them up as a spec ammendment figuring that was the easiest way to circulate/discuss...20:54
asselincrinkle, ok will try that...seems like an overall simplification which is a good thing20:54
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greghaynesjeblair: ah, that works tood20:54
jeblairgreghaynes: cool, should have something soon20:54
crinkleasselin: ++20:54
anteayafungi clarkb I'm going to add a step 18 to which is to change the acls for all remaining projects in stackforge and submit patches removing their contents and replacing it with a new readme file20:55
fungianteaya: that's fine, thanks! (though it's really not critical to the maintenance window since we don't need gerrit/zuul offline for that)20:56
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sdagueclarkb: go for any upgrade you need. I don't know the test url.20:57
anteayaactually I made it two separate steps20:57
anteayafungi: agreed not critical for maintenance, just tracking20:57
asselincrinkle, that worked. thanks for your help!20:58
jogoclarkb: ohh kibana3 nice!20:58
anteayamostly I am reassuring myself that any project that ends up in stackforge without an acl file (which could happen) won't create a cascade of activty for us20:59
fungianteaya: though the order there is backwards. step 19 needs to happen before step 18 or it gets annoying to do20:59
anteayafungi: I will change the steps20:59
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clarkbsdague: you just clone it locally and run it off disk, since its all client side js it works fine20:59
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clarkbsdague: I can give you steps if you want them20:59
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fungianteaya: it's hard for us to merge changes to repos once the acl is read-only for them (we effectively have to manually readd a minimal acl and switch the project back to active temporarily to do it)21:00
sdagueclarkb: nah, just go for it. I'll sort it out later21:00
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet-murano: enable beaker jobs
anteayafungi: yup, much easier for me to control-x and control-v now21:00
fungianteaya: also we need to abandon open changes for those repos21:00
sdagueI don't want that to slow down upgrade of the rest of the system21:00
fungianteaya: before they're read-only21:00
anteayafungi: oh good point, where should that take place, step 20?21:00
anteayaah k21:01
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clarkbsdague: ok21:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Upgrade from kibana2 to kibana3
mriedemclarkb: do you need to success hashtag the move to kibana3?21:01
openstackgerritGlauco Oliveira proposed openstack-infra/puppet-bandersnatch: Add acceptance tests for puppet-bandersnatch
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clarkbmriedem: maybe when its done :)21:02
anteayafungi: better?21:02
clarkbsomething about counting chickens and hatching21:02
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mriedemthey are 100% gauranteed to hatch21:02
mriedemor your money back21:02
fungianteaya: yeah, that other step you almost added and deleted is unnecessary. we move the open changes (all the changes) to the new names with the database updates we perform in step 521:02
fungianteaya: lgtm21:02
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Tweak create_server to use list_servers cache
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Handle list_servers caching more directly
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Create neutron floating ips with server info
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/shade: Split the nova server active check out
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anteayafungi: ah great, thanks yes was thinking that through as I typed, thanks for filling in the blanks21:03
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fungianteaya: specifically the queries like: update changes set dest_project_name = "openstack/senlin", created_on = created_on where dest_project_name = "stackforge/senlin";21:04
fungithat corrects the project name for all releases, open or otherwise21:04
fungier, for all reviews21:04
anteayahandy that21:05
fungichanges i mean21:05
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fungiwould be handier if gerrit had a project rename feature21:05
anteayait is after 5pm, I'm just guessing at words and meanings myself now21:05
anteayaoh wouldn't it21:05
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fungii fumble with language all the time, doesn't have to be after 5pm local21:06
anteayaha ha ha21:06
anteayatimezone agnostic21:06
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clarkbjesusaurus: I think we are about 15 minutes away from the puppet run hitting logstash.o.o with updated kibana module usage21:06
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clarkb(this based on puppetboard report frequency)21:07
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anteayathe weather is too miserable for me to take a long walk today but I do have to get outside21:08
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Populate the data_source in elastic-recheck.conf
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Allow elastic-recheck daemon args to be specified
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Make elastic_recheck git source and revision configurable
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Allow elastic-recheck-uncategorized custom options
mordredI just saw a thing on the mailing list about daemons supporting "sd_notify" - which is apparently systemd using dbus to notify daemons of something21:10
mordredevery time I think I can't hate systemd any further21:10
mordredwe should DEFINITELY throw dbus into the mix and use it instead of unix signals21:11
clarkbmordred: I think it isn't dbus21:11
greghaynesmordred: dbus or kdbus?21:11
mordredoh - nevermind - it's signal the other way21:11
clarkbmordred: its just a socket that it talks to instead of overlodaing the signals like upstart21:12
mordredsd_notify, sd_notifyf, sd_pid_notify, sd_pid_notifyf, sd_pid_notify_with_fds — Notify service manager about start-up completion and other service status changes21:12
clarkbmordred: yup, its actually one of the sane pieces of systemd21:12
mordredyup. I retract my hatred21:12
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clarkbits a very clear "I'm done" without overloading signals or killing processes etc21:12
greghaynesdont retract so fast, kdbus is a real thing21:12
mordredI mean21:12
mordreda clear "I'm done" signal is great21:13
mordredsystemd is still crazy-bananas21:13
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clarkbmordred: I still like that special symbols in unit file names affect how systemd runs the service21:13
mordredclarkb: it's more efficient21:13
greghaynesthink of all the potentially wasted bits!21:14
greghaynesliterally, 8's of them21:14
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fungiif they ignored 8-bit cleanness they could even just use pieces of 821:15
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: puppet: retire beaker-upgrade jobs
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clarkbthe socket activation is smart too21:15
clarkbsince it means you can really lazilly boot21:15
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable tacker dsvm functional test on kilo branch
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mordredclarkb: becuase that was such a great idea when windows did it?21:17
clarkbmordred: it makes sense21:17
mordredclarkb: LOOK! You've booted! (oh, except anything you try to do for the next 5 minutes is going to block or e super slow - but look, we showed you a login prompt, that means you've booted)21:17
clarkbmordred: sort of21:18
clarkbmordred: except that most linux processes don't need 5 minutes to be useful21:18
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clarkbthey like like 500ms21:18
mordredclarkb: I can't think of any times I've ever wanted a server to 'sort of" boot because it would make my life better21:18
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clarkbmordred: oh not for servers21:18
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clarkbmordred: for your laptop21:18
mordredalso don't care21:18
mordredboot on my laptop is not a probem. I wish people would stop breaking my laptop to try to solve it21:19
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greghaynesAudio on my laptop OTOH...21:19
greghaynesoh, wait21:19
clarkbmordred: I have taken the view that I don't want a million servers running on my laptop to give me a desktop21:19
clarkbmordred: which is the other way of solvingthis problem21:19
mordredclarkb: I don't understand what the problem is21:20
mordredclarkb: what, exactly, is broken that requires rewriting half of linux to fix it?21:20
clarkbmordred: for things like gnome and kde you have to run services like mysql just to login21:20
mordredthat's a bug in gnome then21:20
mordrednot in linux21:20
clarkbmordred: so the problem is that desktops spin up hundreds of servers like that21:20
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mordredbut why solve that at the Pid 1 layer?21:21
clarkbmordred: if you required every single one to be running prior to login you would have a very bad experience21:21
clarkbmordred: I do not know21:21
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greghayneswell, to be fair, those were designed to not require that, then no one wrote adapter code that works for anything but mysql, then gnome mostly noped out21:21
fungiwell, the process monitoring/forking. you know, the actual init and inetd replacement parts in systemd. they're not terrible. it's the rest of the stuff that rubs me the wrong way about it21:21
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krotscheckfungi, clarkb: Preference on whether this mirror lives on the pypi slaves or on their own boxen?21:22
mordredit's that it broke suspend/resume (for the love of god)21:22
greghaynesI actually battled with that the othe day21:22
jeblairi like having to restart my X session every time i lock my screen21:22
jeblairmordred: i'm inclined to just stop using X.21:23
fungikrotscheck: i think we've been back and forth on that a little and settled on using the same machines, but i'll let others who remember mor clearly tell me i'm wrong21:23
greghaynesIt is also great how they made unit files able to depend from or on, so trying to actually debug why something is going on / breaking (like your lock unit file) is... fun21:23
clarkbjesusaurus: we are now hosting kiban3, but the dashboard selection doesn't seem to be working21:23
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jesusaurusclarkb: does the apache log give any insight?21:24
clarkbjesusaurus: /opt/kibana/v3.1.2/src/elasticsearch21:25
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clarkbjesusaurus: I think the docroot and proxy may be confused21:25
jeblairPSA: in case anyone has forgotten, the program you want to use is "pdftops", not "pdf2ps".21:25
openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed openstack/requirements: Require oslo.log >= 1.12.0
mordredjeblair: of course it is21:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: test_queries now uses elasticRecheck.conf
fungithat is another inconsistency that gets on my nerves21:26
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jeblairmordred: at least until systemd2pdf21:27
jeblairfungi: it's not just an inconsistency, they're two completely different programs.  one is the Right Choice.  one is the Wrong Choice.21:27
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clarkbjesusaurus: do we need a rewrite rule to allow /elasticsearch/? to be proxied?21:28
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krotscheckfungi: Gotcha. Will the registry be exposed under a different vhost than pypi*
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jesusaurusclarkb: I'm not sure, I'm looking over the vhost template now21:29
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jesusaurusclarkb: in my environment I'm just running with a prefix of /21:30
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clarkbjesusaurus: I got it working21:30
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clarkbjesusaurus: in config.js we have + /elasticsearch/ but it wants /elasticsearch21:31
clarkbI stopped puppet, removed the trailing / and hard refreshed and it works for me21:31
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fungikrotscheck: probably, yes, just because npm is not pypi, though we might want to consider switching them all to mirror.whatever instead21:31
clarkbjesusaurus: do you want to tackle fixing that in puppet or should I?21:31
anteayamriedem: let me know if you have a chance to look over my requirements patches21:31
clarkbjesusaurus: I think what we want to do is write javascript to be smart for us21:32
zaroclarkb, fungi : i'm seeing an error when Gerrit attempts to access launchpad to update blueprint, bugs and what not.21:32
clarkbjesusaurus: but I do not claim to be a js expert so this could be fun :)21:32
zarohappens here:
mriedemanteaya: oh i hadn't seen21:32
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krotscheckfungi: Well as long as the vhosts resolve that shouldn't be a problem.21:32
mriedemanteaya: and i'm about to head out21:32
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anteayamriedem: okay can we make a date for tomorrow?21:32
anteayamriedem: and have a good evening21:33
mriedemanteaya: mayhap21:33
zaroclarkb, fungi : did those creds change?21:33
anteayamriedem: I'll take it, thanks21:33
krotscheckfungi: Speaking of which, how would I get that vhost to resolve? Do we have bind running anywhere?21:33
mriedemanteaya: remind me in the morning, b/c after lunch i'm pretty much out for a week21:33
mriedemw/o no laptop21:33
mriedem*w/o no21:33
mriedemyou know what i'm saying :)21:33
anteayamriedem: ah good on ya, I will ping first thing21:33
anteayamriedem: I do indeed21:33
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anteayamriedem: see ya tomorrow21:33
clarkbzaro: not that I know of but wouldn't surprise me if a token expired or something21:34
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jesusaurusclarkb: im not a js dev either, but it looks like has some solutions21:34
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anteayamtreinish adam_g you are my requirements and stable branch back up team, if y'all could take a gander at,n,z in the next 24ish hours I'm ever so grateful21:35
zaroclarkb: how to fix this?  we cannot allow puppet to reset review-dev now, the db is already moved to 2.11 and we don't have a 2.11 build setup yet.21:36
clarkbzaro: well you should confirm that the issue is the credentials21:36
clarkbzaro: and if it is then we go from there21:36
anteayaoh you don't have +2 on master requirements, hmmmm21:36
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anteayamarkmcclain: you about? /me is a wishful thinker21:36
openstackgerritPeter Stachowski proposed openstack/requirements: Exclude version 2.6.0 of oslo.util
fungizaro: i think we confirmed that we need to puppet the credentials. seems like they didn't get copied correctly from the old review-dev when we rebuilt it or something21:38
fungianyway, i need to step out and grab some dinner, back in a while21:38
anteayafungi: enjoy dinner21:38
clarkbjesusaurus: so I think we want "/elasticsearch/".replace(/\/+$/, "")21:38
clarkbjesusaurus: I am going to test this live21:38
openstackgerritPeter Stachowski proposed openstack/requirements: Exclude version 2.6.0 of oslo.utils
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clarkbjesusaurus: that seems to work, I iwll push a patch and krotscheck can laugh at us21:39
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* krotscheck likes laughing21:39
anteayaanyone know when we started using homepage: in gerrit/projects.yaml?21:39
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krotscheckWhat are we talking about?21:40
anteayakrotscheck: was that to me?21:40
clarkbkrotscheck: I will have a patch will be easier to show you21:40
anteayamorning jhesketh21:41
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Remove trailing / from config.js url
clarkbkrotscheck: ^21:41
zaroclarkb, fungi : actually i'll go ahead and setup a branch for 2.1121:41
clarkbI suppose I should credit the stackexchange thread too21:41
anteayaclarkb: they can get co-authored status?21:42
anteayawonder if they would vote21:42
jesusaurusclarkb: yeah, i just tested that at
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-kibana: Remove trailing / from config.js url
krotscheckclarkb: Urm... you sure you don't want .replace(/\/+$/, "/") ?21:43
krotscheck(Replace multiple // with /)21:43
clarkbkrotscheck: ya we want to remove the /21:43
clarkbkrotscheck: if we have /elasticsearch// it should become /elasticsearch21:43
jesusaurusclarkb: do we need /\/+$/ or can we just do /\/$/ ?21:43
krotscheckOh, gotcha.21:43
krotscheckForgout aboutt he $21:44
clarkbjesusaurus: for our case we don't need the + but it doesn't hurt21:44
krotscheckNaaah, seems fine21:44
clarkbso if we can get those two changes approved I will reenable puppet on logstash.o.o21:44
clarkbmtreinish: mriedem we should be clear to merge the e-r change now21:44
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mtreinishclarkb: mriedem gave it a -121:45
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mriedemi could be swayed shortly21:45
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* clarkb refreshes21:45
mriedemi kind of like the idea of making it configurable, but,21:45
mriedemi'm not married to that21:45
zarowould an infra-core kindly create a branch an 'openstack-infra/gerrit/openstack/2.11.4' branch from the 'v2.11.4' tag?21:45
clarkbmriedem: so the reason I don't want to make it configurable is that it was never actually configurable at all21:45
mriedemi was thinking we should have something in the readme that says kibana 3 is required, but that could also be a follow up change21:45
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clarkbmriedem: its hardcoded to our server which is now kibana321:46
mriedemyeah, but asselin has also been making things more configurable21:46
mriedemso i'm not married to the configuration stuff21:46
mriedemi would like a readme up at some point, but that can be a follow up21:46
mriedem*readme update21:46
clarkbI guess I don't want to confuse configurability with kibana server is changing21:46
clarkbbecause we have never been configurable21:47
mriedemsure so scratch that21:47
mriedemcan we get a docs update in a later change?21:47
clarkbyup I can write up a docs change21:47
mriedemb/c i'll forget about this21:47
clarkbwill do it now21:47
mriedemi'll hunt you down if i come back from disney world and it's not there :)21:47
anteayawith mickey ears on21:47
clarkbmriedem: are you really going to disney world?21:48
mriedemunfortunately yes21:48
anteayainstead of summit21:48
anteayacan you believe it21:48
mriedemtaking one for the team21:48
anteayaha ha ha21:48
asselinsupport now for kibana 3 makes my life easier fwiw21:48
mriedemclarkb: you say that now, but your day will come21:48
anteayaha ha ha21:48
clarkbmriedem: I know, my wife already tlaks about it21:48
mriedemoh god21:48
anteayaha ha ha haha21:48
mriedemyeah, i have been putting this off for a few years already now21:48
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jeblairmriedem: a little longer and they'll grow out of it21:49
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mriedemit's not my kid that cares about it21:49
mriedemit's the mrs21:49
krotscheckSo, if I'm trying to add another vhost to a server, that's not $::fqdn, how would I go about makeing sure that it resovles properly?21:49
clarkbkrotscheck: just note in the chagne that the approver will need to update DNS21:49
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krotscheckclarkb: HOookay21:50
clarkbmriedem: I am currently trying to find the best place to add this. Do you have a preference?21:50
jeblairkrotscheck, clarkb: can we just root it at some other path?21:50
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mriedemclarkb: in the readme? not sure, could just add a new section on notes or pre-reqs21:50
mriedemor in the top level general part of the readme21:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Switch to kibana3 link generation
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krotscheckjeblair: Maybe? I don't know how well bandersnatch would play with an npm-mirror in the same folder tree.21:52
jeblairkrotscheck: i think at one point we discussed moving bandersnatch down to /pypi, and renaming the hosts mirror.*21:52
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add note about Kibana3 dep for link generation
clarkbmriedem: ^ like that?21:53
clarkbjeblair: krotscheck oh if this is for mirroring ya we should just change the root21:53
krotscheckjeblair: fungi mentioned that too. That's not a thing I can control though.21:53
jeblairkrotscheck: though with apache, we can go ahead and root npm at /npm and it doesn't need to block on the bandersnatch move...21:53
jeblairkrotscheck: er?21:53
krotscheckjeblair: moving dns things and other things are things that I'm not privileged to do.21:54
nibalizerjeblair: yes we were, to accomodate rubygems mirrors21:55
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nibalizeri can dig up the patches that change the vhosts once i get to a real computer21:56
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clarkbinfra-root can get reviews on and its childto clean up a couple items with kibana3 switch?21:56
jeblairkrotscheck: if dns is your only concern, then rooting npm at /npm does not require dns changes... or did you mean something else (like the application itself must be at /)?21:56
krotscheckjeblair: I'm testing whether I can use a mirror at */npm21:56
jeblairnibalizer, krotscheck: yeah, these things can happen in somewhat-parallel.21:56
nibalizeralso i suppose someone already asked 'can we do this without running a couchdb?'21:57
nibalizerand i assume the answer is 'no'21:57
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krotschecknibalizer: Actually, the answer is yes21:57
anteayanibalizer: good question21:58
krotschecknibalizer: Which also came with me losing hair because I didn't have to spend two days learning enough ruby21:58
clarkbmtreinish: hey there is laready a 2d option in the dashboard :P21:58
clarkbmeh we can have 48h for you21:58
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mtreinishclarkb: heh, ok I must have missed it then21:59
clarkbmtreinish: its fine21:59
mtreinishI could have sworn I didn't see it there21:59
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clarkbmtreinish: when people ask we can say "mtreinish really really wanted it"21:59
jeblairclarkb: also 2880m please.22:00
anteayamtreinish: really really wanted it22:00
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jeblairalso, how do you abbreviate fortnight22:01
clarkbjeblair: 10d22:01
anteayafortnight is two weeks22:02
jeblairi mean, what is 1<...>?22:02
anteayalet's see if that works22:02
mtreinishI totally don't see 2d in that22:02
mtreinishmaybe I'm looking in the wrong place22:02
clarkbmtreinish: oh! look up further22:03
jesusaurusjeblair: looks like its ftn
clarkbmtreinish: where it says a day ago to a minute ago22:03
clarkbmtreinish: you pick 2d out of there22:03
clarkbmtreinish: the interval on the grpah is just how the graph is going to render the outer timewindow22:03
mtreinishwell that would explain why it wasn't doing what I was expecting22:03
mtreinishah yep there is the 2d option22:04
mtreinishbut 48h is better than 2d so I appreciate having it there22:04
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anteayajeblair: it is equal to 15 tithi:
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anteayawhich I didn't know22:08
jeblairall of these are longer to type than 2w. :(22:08
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clarkbjeblair: is ovh working with the slower rate limit?22:09
anteayaI wonder if the timekeeping utils know what a tithi is22:09
jeblairclarkb: well, yes.  i mean, enough for me to launch nodes from my workstation.  we can not use it in production.22:09
clarkbjeblair: it is too slow for production?22:10
jeblairclarkb: yes, we have 2 production blockers:  the nodes are too slow and the rate is too slow.  they know about and are working on both of them.22:10
jeblairclarkb: they created a new 8vcpu flavor for us to test, but i have not started tests on it yet.22:11
mtreinishjeblair: did you see my graph yesterday with things split by region?22:11
clarkbjeblair: cool, nice to see progress there22:11
anteayaI have a pbr error in a stable/liberty requirements patch:
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anteayaany pbr folks able to help me decipher what my remedy is?22:12
jeblairmtreinish: missed it22:12
anteayamordred: ^^22:12
mtreinishthat's for the past month22:12
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jeblairmtreinish: cool, thanks22:12
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jeblairmtreinish: (it's a little label-heavy)22:13
anteayaha ha ha22:13
mtreinishyeah, I'm fighting pandas and matplotlib to actually make it graph22:13
clarkbone interesting thingabout that is the neutron jobs have much more variance22:13
anteayaha ha ha ha ha22:13
clarkbI expect different times because different tests22:13
mtreinishgetting something which was what I was looking for was enough a struggle22:13
mtreinishthat I just went with it22:13
clarkbbut within a region you would expect consistency I think22:13
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anteayamtreinish: show jeblair the one for a week or so ago22:14
anteayathe piece of art22:14
clarkbanteaya: the one that crashes firefox?22:14
anteayadid it crash firefox?22:14
anteayathe mad jumble of lables22:14
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jeblairanteaya: i think i remember that one22:15
anteayajeblair: ah okay22:15
anteayaI love that one22:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Modify i18n team meeting time
StevenKanteaya: stable/liberty has a version = line in setup.cfg, which forces pbr to use that version, which doesn't gel with git history since 5.0.0 is already a thing22:15
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anteayaStevenK: thank you22:16
anteayaStevenK: what do I do about it?22:16
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StevenKI thought the plan was to remove the version = lines, but lifeless is the person I'd ask, and he's not connected.22:16
anteayabecause of all the requirements stable patches that need to merge, liberty is it22:16
anteayaStevenK: hmmmm, okay, well the paths to those repos are changing on saturday22:17
mtreinishanteaya: you should bookmark it:
anteayaso if it doesn't get changed during or shortly there after stable/libetry might not be happy22:17
anteayamtreinish: there it is22:17
anteayamtreinish: I have bookmarked it22:18
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openstackgerritSridhar Ramaswamy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add tacker pypi publish jobs
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clarkbnibalizer: logstash-worker10 does Exiting; no certificate found and waitforcert is disabled when running puppet22:31
clarkbnibalizer: any idea what would cause the cert to go away?22:32
clarkblooks like we have a good chunk of unreporting servers on puppetboard22:32
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jeblairclarkb: pypi.sjc1 came up after first boot trying to use a cert for the wrong fqdn, but i figured it was either something specific about bluebox or i messed up in launching22:34
jeblairclarkb: you have me wondering if we have a more widespread problem with servers knowing the fqdn and cert name22:34
clarkbjeblair: its possible, I will look closer at logstash-worker1022:34
clarkbjeblair: certname is logstash-worker10 not logstash-worker10.openstack.org22:35
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clarkbjeblair: that got puppet to run and did not change the certname back22:36
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jeblairclarkb: what got it to run?22:39
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nibalizerclarkb: id bet it forgot its certname22:41
ianwcan anyone think of an example where we override tox deps for CI.  for example, i want to pin devstack to x.y.z of bashate in tox, but i also want to write a bashate test that tests the latest changes against devstack, so i need to override it22:41
clarkbjeblair: I manually edited /etc/puppet/puppet.conf to fix the certname22:41
clarkbjeblair: then manually ran puppet agent --test22:41
nibalizeroh you got it nvm22:41
clarkbnibalizer: ya sorry, jeblairs suggestion for that got me on the right track22:41
jeblairclarkb: do we manage certname in puppet.conf with puppet?22:42
jeblairclarkb: so maybe that broke briefly?22:42
clarkbjeblair: I think we do22:42
nibalizeri think we do22:42
nibalizerbut we set it to something from facter22:42
nibalizeror maybe to $::certname22:42
nibalizeranyways im afk22:43
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add some further steps to nodepool-builder spec
jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb, mordred: there's some unfinished thoughts about how we could remove the shared-state between the builders and the daemon22:45
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jeblairgreghaynes: i think for the moment, i'd just proceed with more or less what you have, and probably with the suggestions i made about waiting for jobs;  keep the shared state in mysql for now, and when we split it into multiple processes, don't worry too much about the edge case of nodepool restarting while an upload is happening.22:47
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jeblairgreghaynes, clarkb, mordred: if we decide to head in the direction i suggested in 235606, we can move easily toward that.  if we don't, we can clean up that edge case (by deleting or recapturing the image or something).22:48
krotscheckjeblair, fungi: The bad news- the registry-static package clarkb will not work for subdirs. The good news: I have a patch up that _should_fix it.22:48
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clarkbhrm kibana 3 may have affected the logstash queue :/22:48
jeblairkrotscheck: all is balanced22:49
jeblairkrotscheck: link to fixing patch?22:50
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mtreinishclarkb: hmm, yeah that's a nice spike22:51
clarkbmtreinish: I am willing to let it run a bit to see if it is consistent and not going t oget better22:52
mtreinishclarkb: fwiw, subunit2sql hasn't seen a new run added in ~20min22:53
jeblairkrotscheck: i grok, thanks.22:53
mtreinishIIRC the graphite graph shows the 2 combined22:54
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clarkbmtreinish: they are separate queues in gearman with separate workers22:55
clarkbmtreinish: so one being slow shouldn't affect the other22:55
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mtreinishclarkb: but is the graphite graph looking at it per queue or just talking to the gearman server?22:56
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clarkbmtreinish: oh the graph is likely combined22:57
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mtreinishthat's all I was getting at the spike in the graph could be subunit2sql too22:57
mtreinishalthough it doesn't get nearly the same number of events22:57
clarkboh, let me check gearman directly22:58
clarkbmtreinish: push-subunit is empty :)22:58
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clarkbpush-log 26361 86 89 push-subunit 0 0 122:59
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clarkbthe load on es02 is really high now too22:59
clarkbwe may need to put an es client process on logstash.o.o and proxy to it so it can load balance for us22:59
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greghaynesjeblair: SGTM about just keeping with what we have mostly. About the spec - seems like that is a lot more requests?23:03
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jeblairgreghaynes: asking glance?  yeah, we need to figure out the caching; then we can tune the frequency.  maybe we do it every 5 minutes or something?23:05
clarkbjeblair: why bother at all since we know what images we uploaded23:05
clarkbseems odd to make a request for data we already know23:06
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clarkb(we would know it because triggered builds + uplaod would return success)23:07
jeblairclarkb: the proposal is for us not to know what images we upload23:07
clarkbjeblair: the way I am reading the update we would though23:07
jeblairclarkb: they just appear there and nodepool starts using them23:07
clarkbbecause nodepool is still rsponsible for triggering the builds + uploads23:07
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jeblairclarkb: yeah, but it will ignore the result for that.  that helps with the edge case we have with nodepool being restarted while a build or upload is in progress23:08
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clarkbI want to say it is setups lik this that make using heat so hard23:09
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clarkbif you try to rely on the cloud for all of the data (mostly) on demand you run into field data limits, api rate limits, general slowness of the service, and so on23:10
greghaynesI think the other alternative is to make the builders depend on a database23:10
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clarkbbut we can always implement and run it against a lcoud and se ehow bad it is23:10
greghaynes++ to that23:10
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clarkbanother laternative would be to query the builders for the list23:11
clarkbif we find that nova/glance are not cutting it23:11
jeblairclarkb, greghaynes: the simplest thing we can do is to not have the builders have any shared state, have them report the image external id back as the gearman result, and then have nodepool prune leaked images like it prunes leaked nodes23:12
* krotscheck ponders doing the pypi mirror rename himself23:12
krotscheckjust to make the vhost defenition easier23:12
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jeblairclarkb, greghaynes: that is, at least in terms of getting from where we are today and with greghaynes's patches to a fully working system, i think the shortest, simplest thing23:13
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Populate the data_source in elastic-recheck.conf
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Allow elastic-recheck daemon args to be specified
openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-elastic_recheck: Allow elastic-recheck-uncategorized custom options
clarkbjeblair: I think that is what I had in mind when assuming the build + upload would keep the main daemon informed23:14
jeblairclarkb, greghaynes: the half-formed idea i pushed up is exploring whether we can make things even simpler by doing less.   i share your hesitation on relying on the cloud for data, however, i think at least in the case of images, it should be safe.  we are not updating any properties or anything -- this only relies on metadata in image creation.  that has proven fairly reliable with compute instances at least.23:15
clarkb"this image now exists" then later the daemon would delete it and know it got deleted23:15
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jeblairclarkb: at least, if it fails, it's not going to fail worse than not using metadata.  :)23:15
* greghaynes agrees with this23:15
clarkbjeblair: one fail case would be not actually deleting things that you thought were deleted and nodepool continuing to use those images23:16
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clarkbwe know openstack doesn't like deleting stuff23:16
greghaynesI think the design is correct, if we hit issues I think the fallback plan is to have builders write out the state in a local DB23:16
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greghaynesbut that is really an equivalent design just using a different location for state23:16
jeblairclarkb: this is true, we would lose the ability to override cloud inventory in that case.  you should -1 with that comment.  :)23:16
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clarkbjeblair: ok23:17
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greghaynesclarkb: youre describing an operator does an image-delete, it doesnt get deleted from the cloud because cloudstuffs?23:18
jeblairgreghaynes: i'd like to stick with as much of your current stack as possible before we go in this direction though.  in fact, i think we ought to go into production with your stack and the workers not touching mysql and returning the image id via gearman to the daemon which then puts it in the database.23:18
clarkbgreghaynes: yes23:18
clarkbgreghaynes: its a very common occurence for other resources23:18
jeblairgreghaynes: and only then branch out to either this design, or something else.23:18
clarkbgreghaynes: not sure how often it happens with images because we have mostly been hidden from it by nodepool23:18
greghaynesjeblair: Yea, that is the next question - how far up the stack do we want to try deploying first23:19
clarkbfloating ips, ports, and VMs are very common "I deleted it but its still here" resources23:19
greghaynesjeblair: I agree with getting far up the stack because when its half-baked (some operations overgearman and others not) things could get odd23:19
jeblairgreghaynes: let's try to change as little as possible.  i think all my comments from this morning stand, and there's only one small known defect which is the nodepool restart race.  we can go into production with that and i'm not worried.23:20
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greghaynesjeblair: works for me. I also think I introduced a race in the delete test I was working at ironing out, so I'll do that and address your comments.23:21
jeblairgreghaynes: cool23:21
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Deletegate gerrit project ownership
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greghaynesclarkb: oh, funny thing I noticed BTW - our sprinkling wait_for_threads, etc in the command tests is a red flag that our blocking didnt work23:23
greghaynesclarkb: so I am trying to remove all of that23:23
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clarkbgreghaynes: what blocking?23:23
clarkbgreghaynes: for the command tests?23:23
greghaynesclarkb: the image-upload command blocking for uploads23:23
clarkbya ok23:23
zaroi just noticed gerrit-core group,,members doesn't look like it's used yet.  was that for people who work on openstack's Gerrit?23:23
clarkbzaro: you might be able to look in git logs to find out what created it23:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Adds pika RabbitMQ client library
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openstackgerritKhai Do proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Deletegate gerrit project ownership
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zaroclarkb: couldn't find anything when grepping for 'gerrit-core'23:31
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openstackgerritRamy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Enable configurable db_uri and es_url
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asselinwhat's the puppet error here?  anifests/bot.pp - WARNING: variable assigned to the empty string on line 29?23:40
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clarkblooks like it23:40
jesusaurusclarkb: cacti is showing that logstash.o.o started swapping recently23:40
clarkbjesusaurus: huh23:41
asselinseems to be more like a warning to me.....23:41
clarkbjesusaurus: I think thats just linux being weird23:41
clarkbjesusaurus: we have 1.5GB of ram available23:42
asselinjesusaurus, do you know if empty strings are allowed? ^^23:42
clarkbjesusaurus: and largest process is only 100somethin gMB23:42
clarkbasselin: I think wranings are treated as errors23:42
jesusaurusclarkb: cacti also shows high io ops and io throughput for the same period23:42
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* asselin thinks empty strings = error is silly23:43
clarkbjesusaurus: oh swap use actually fell23:43
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clarkbjesusaurus: and thats what shows up as activity? I think ti went in the right direction and that got logged23:43
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