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| anteaya | notmorgan: nicely said | 00:00 |
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| purp | Hey, all. Anyone aware of etherpad issues? | 00:02 |
| notmorgan | purp: what kind of issues? | 00:03 |
| purp | notmorgan: Can't load https://etherpad.openstack.org/ at all. | 00:03 |
| purp | From California or Boston. | 00:03 |
| notmorgan | purp: hm. it's loading ok for me here in PDX | 00:03 |
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| anteaya | isn't loading for me yet in Canada | 00:04 |
| notmorgan | purp: which provider (CA / BOS)? comcast here | 00:04 |
| anteaya | was earlier today | 00:04 |
| anteaya | finally rendered | 00:04 |
| anteaya | but took a while | 00:04 |
| purp | I've got ATT. Comcast in BOS. | 00:05 |
| purp | And now working. | 00:05 |
| purp | Got a proxy error in the meantime. | 00:05 |
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| notmorgan | hmm | 00:05 |
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| notmorgan | weird. | 00:05 |
| anteaya | traffic spike | 00:05 |
| clarkb | (db backups) | 00:06 |
| anteaya | ah | 00:06 |
| anteaya | purp: timing for the win | 00:06 |
| anteaya | I always forget the backup timing | 00:06 |
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| ianw | arrrgh f23 puppet, why you fail now! | 00:20 |
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| ianw | nibalizer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198156/2 <- cfacter might be the issue ... why did i not see this on local runs | 00:25 |
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| ianw | you know you're in trouble when the top match for fedora and cfacter is a story "Sarah Jessica Parker rocks a stylish fedora ..." | 00:27 |
| clarkb | wat | 00:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/requirements: Bumps os-win version to 0.0.7 https://review.openstack.org/255013 | 00:29 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 00:29 |
| mgagne | true, first page, last result for me | 00:29 |
| pleia2 | the only meeting scheduled for the near future was canceled, so if someone wants to look at this patch to finish the ceilometer channel move, now's a good time :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243020/ | 00:29 |
| anteaya | and noone I know of rocks a fedora more stylishly than jeblair | 00:30 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: +1 | 00:31 |
| clarkb | pleia2: done | 00:31 |
| anteaya | it's all I have to offer there | 00:31 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: thanks | 00:31 |
| anteaya | oh good | 00:31 |
| anteaya | is there any limit on how many times a project can go back and forth between the same two names? | 00:31 |
| pleia2 | I don't think it's come up | 00:32 |
| pleia2 | but in this case I think it's because it's no longer just ceilometer, there are a few telemetry projects in the mix | 00:32 |
| anteaya | okey | 00:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Add tenants https://review.openstack.org/254457 | 00:38 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Disable most tests https://review.openstack.org/255019 | 00:38 |
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| ianw | nibalizer / pliea2 : so this cfacter change merged last night my time, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198156/ -- which is why all my f23 testing yesterday my time didn't pick it up as an issue | 00:39 |
| jeblair | most of the tests actually still work, but every single one of them needs configuration changes, and that will make our eyes bleed, so i'm deferring it for now | 00:39 |
| ianw | nibalizer / pliea2 : so, what are you thinking for distros like f23 that don't have puppetlabs branches for stuff? skip? | 00:39 |
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| jeblair | (long term answer: stop using puppet to configure test nodes) | 00:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Rename Ceilometer to Telemetry https://review.openstack.org/243020 | 00:40 |
| pleia2 | ianw: ah, boo, what is f23 using? native packages? | 00:41 |
| clarkb | ianw: maybe we should just revert and rely on facter facter | 00:41 |
| pleia2 | this is what I was worried about | 00:41 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: ++ | 00:41 |
| ianw | pliea2: yep, native packages. puppetlabs is usually a long lag on new fedoras | 00:41 |
| pleia2 | I think it's revert then | 00:41 |
| jeblair | revert is probably a good enough solution until the long-term stop using puppet on test nodes (only use dib) | 00:41 |
| jeblair | (i honestly don't think it's that far out once the rest of the bindep/dib stuff is done) | 00:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Revert "Add cfacter to puppet3 nodes" https://review.openstack.org/255021 | 00:44 |
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| ianw | ^ ok, that's the revert option | 00:44 |
| ianw | i don't mind doing a skip for f23, but it just seems it will break again if support for it is enabled | 00:45 |
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| pabelanger | we'll need to a logic to ensure cfacter is absent actually, since puppet processed that code | 00:45 |
| pabelanger | otherwise, manual deletes all around | 00:45 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: I don't think we need to remove cfacter if its there | 00:45 |
| clarkb | or do we? | 00:45 |
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| pabelanger | unsure, its now and unmanaged application | 00:46 |
| pabelanger | well, will become unmanaged | 00:46 |
| pleia2 | there is that | 00:47 |
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| ianw | so add an ensure absent? | 00:47 |
| pabelanger | and now, I step away | 00:47 |
| clarkb | I doubt we need it | 00:48 |
| clarkb | unless we really want the package gone | 00:48 |
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| ianw | i feel like since you've got to manually fiddle config files to use it, probably can leave it, but happy to change too | 00:50 |
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| nibalizer | gah | 00:54 |
| nibalizer | is there a cfacter package in f23? | 00:54 |
| nibalizer | i heard there was a puppet4 package | 00:54 |
| nibalizer | anyways we can revert the cfacter change | 00:55 |
| nibalizer | or just put some "not on fedora" logic in | 00:55 |
| pleia2 | ianw: was suggesting the opposite (opt in, rather than opt out) | 00:57 |
| ianw | i don't care, i just want my build to work :) i was so close! | 00:57 |
| pleia2 | indeed :) | 00:57 |
| nibalizer | hah sorry! | 00:57 |
| nibalizer | where is fedora on puppet4 and cfacter packaging? | 00:58 |
| ianw | well it's 4.2.1 i guess | 00:58 |
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| ianw | f22 shipping python4 was one of the big hold ups getting that working | 00:58 |
| nibalizer | also i am on phone | 00:58 |
| ianw | puppet4 even | 00:58 |
| nibalizer | is there a cfacter package? | 00:59 |
| ianw | not that i can see | 01:00 |
| nibalizer | booo | 01:00 |
| nibalizer | how are you installing puppet 3? | 01:00 |
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| pabelanger | not? | 01:01 |
| lifeless | python 4? | 01:01 |
| ianw | we're not for fedora, just using the native 4 packages (see prior note about having to modify stuff for puppet4 during f22 cycle) | 01:01 |
| lifeless | ianw: wat^ ? | 01:01 |
| lifeless | ianw: oh, puppet ;) | 01:01 |
| ianw | lifeless: typo, i meant puppet | 01:01 |
| jroll | python 4 could be so fun though! | 01:01 |
| crinkle | i think cfacter == facter 3.0 == default for puppet 4, at least from puppetlabs' perspective, not sure what f23 does | 01:02 |
| ianw | well the "facter" package installed in f23 is 2.4.3 | 01:03 |
| nibalizer | i think thats right^^ | 01:04 |
| pabelanger | can confirm 2.4.3 | 01:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Thanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add view management functionality https://review.openstack.org/206178 | 01:04 |
| nibalizer | so then the fedora packagers screwed up? | 01:04 |
| nibalizer | didnt want to build the c++ toolchaij? | 01:05 |
| pabelanger | harsh | 01:05 |
| crinkle | we should maybe start testing system-config changes on f23 if we want to avoid this in the future | 01:06 |
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| crinkle | by only testing on ubuntu and centos 7 we're sort of implying that's all we support | 01:06 |
| crinkle | i mean beaker testing | 01:07 |
| jeblair | it is | 01:07 |
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| clarkb | uh | 01:07 |
| nibalizer | it doesnt sound like we can build f23 nodes because of this | 01:07 |
| clarkb | do we have beaker tests for the slaves? | 01:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix grub-efi-amd64-signed install failure https://review.openstack.org/219612 | 01:07 |
| jeblair | the problem is that we're using puppet to configure slaves | 01:07 |
| clarkb | right chicken and egg | 01:07 |
| jeblair | we need to stop doing that | 01:07 |
| nibalizer | pabelanger: ya that was harsher than it needed to be | 01:07 |
| jeblair | that can happen soon | 01:07 |
| nibalizer | i apologize | 01:07 |
| jeblair | so let's just get to there, rather than wasting effort on testing system-config on platforms it won't be used on | 01:08 |
| ianw | nibalizer: yeah, i can find out from maintainers, like i said before, searching for info lead to articles about sarah jessica-parker's head-wear, so no luck there :) | 01:09 |
| nibalizer | heh | 01:09 |
| nibalizer | ok im out | 01:09 |
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| nibalizer | i reccomend we just revert the cfacter thing | 01:10 |
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| ianw | nibalizer: cool, i'll loop you in on some queries so we can understand the way forward | 01:11 |
| pabelanger | https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/facter/bugs | 01:13 |
| pabelanger | open bugs to bump to 3.x | 01:13 |
| pabelanger | just lacking help moving it along | 01:13 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: I'm travelling at the moment but will reply to your comments on the swift stuff later. The point of the workers though is not to do with race conditions uploading but being able to create metadata higher up the tree than where the temp url has granted | 01:13 |
| clarkb | jhesketh right so thats why one idea I had was to use hashed paths | 01:14 |
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| clarkb | then allow writes to the metadata container with those objects named after hashed paths | 01:14 |
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| clarkb | so logs/foo/bar has 3 subpaths | 01:15 |
| clarkb | each gets hashed and that object gets updated | 01:16 |
| clarkb | then to check timestamps pull those objects back out | 01:16 |
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| jhesketh | Right so we keep a master index elsewhere out of the log tree | 01:16 |
| jhesketh | Of sorts | 01:17 |
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| jhesketh | That makes a lot of sesne | 01:17 |
| jhesketh | I'll redo the spec with that, thanks! | 01:17 |
| fungi | that got put forth as a solution a while back actually | 01:17 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: do you think we should pass a second hmac for the metadata? | 01:17 |
| fungi | feels like we're rewriting the missing parts of a posix filesystem... i guess because we are! | 01:18 |
| jhesketh | Yeah I likely forgot or missed it | 01:18 |
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| clarkb | jhesketh ya I dont think it ahould share the same paths as the logs | 01:18 |
| clarkb | to avoid confusion | 01:18 |
| clarkb | fungi yes we are :( | 01:18 |
| jhesketh | And yes, we totally are | 01:18 |
| jhesketh | Which is why we revisited our path forward briefly at the summit | 01:18 |
| fungi | writing a filesystem table bow | 01:18 |
| fungi | er, now | 01:18 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: agree they shouldn't be on the log path. But is a second hmac the best way forward (I think it's fine, just thinking out loud) | 01:19 |
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| pleia2 | ^^ that #midonet change has been waiting a bit too (got snagged by the pep8 bug over the weekend), no meetings right now | 01:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/shade: Improve test coverage: hypervisor list https://review.openstack.org/254825 | 01:20 |
| clarkb | ya I think second path requires second hmac? | 01:20 |
| jhesketh | pleia2: I'll try to put together an announcement in an etherpad this afternoon for review | 01:20 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: unless another service does the metadata stuff, yez | 01:20 |
| jhesketh | *yes | 01:21 |
| pleia2 | jhesketh: great, thanks, want to update the wiki too? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints#Mitaka_sprints | 01:21 |
| jhesketh | Yep, will do after travel | 01:21 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 01:21 |
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| pabelanger | How do I get support for openstackid.org? I've tried using the lost password field and entered my email address but I never receive an email | 01:23 |
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| fungi | pabelanger: it's trying to e-mail whatever e-mail address(es) you have in your openstack foundation profile | 01:24 |
| jhesketh | clarkb: so the downside of the hashes is that we have to update all the metadata for each path. Whereas in a normal posix filesystem only the folders which have new (or moved) items would be updated | 01:24 |
| jhesketh | This is therefore a difference to on disk, but it's possibly not one that will matter | 01:24 |
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| jhesketh | I'll try to explain it in the spec so we can get those who use the logs heavily to take a look | 01:25 |
| fungi | jhesketh: yep, that's a simplicity/performance tradeoff | 01:26 |
| jhesketh | Agreed. Just want to make sure it's acceptable first | 01:27 |
| fungi | definitely pros and cons to each method | 01:27 |
| pabelanger | fungi: should be my redhat.com address, but never see anything. Will check again in the morning | 01:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Load the 8021q kernel module in simple-init https://review.openstack.org/250012 | 01:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/requirements: Add searchlight to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/255031 | 01:34 |
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| vilobhmm11 | fungi : ping | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Update min tox version to match current practice https://review.openstack.org/255039 | 01:58 |
| vilobhmm11 | lifeless: ping | 01:58 |
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| lifeless | pong | 01:58 |
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| vilobhmm11 | lifeless : I am trying to add non-voting job for tooz consul driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254488/2/zuul/layout.yaml | 02:03 |
| vilobhmm11 | lifeless : looks like the tag voting: flase can only be applied at project level https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/zuul/layout.yaml#L9293 | 02:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | won't it apply voting: false to all the check and gate | 02:04 |
| vilobhmm11 | lifeless : ^6 | 02:05 |
| lifeless | vilobhmm11: there's a huge number of voting: false entries up the top of layout.zzuul | 02:06 |
| lifeless | vilobhmm11: following that pattern should work | 02:07 |
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| vilobhmm11 | lifeless : I get that but that is at the jobs level nothing at the project "check" "gate" …does the parameter apply there as well | 02:10 |
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| pabelanger | vilobhmm11: you are missing the job in JJB. There is not such thing as gate-{name}-{envlist}-nv so you need to add it | 02:13 |
| pabelanger | other wise, just add something into the jobs section for zuul making it non-voting | 02:14 |
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| pabelanger | vilobhmm11: ^ that review will fail, not valid syntax | 02:14 |
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| lifeless | vilobhmm11: it does | 02:26 |
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| ianw | if anyone could approve the cfacter revert we agreed on, well that would be great :) -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255021/ | 02:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Allow puppet to enabling or disabling Gerrit drafts feature https://review.openstack.org/253110 | 02:41 |
| ianw | fungi: thanks! round round nodepool goes ... will it work ... nobody knows! | 02:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/254571 | 02:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Revert "Add cfacter to puppet3 nodes" https://review.openstack.org/255021 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: New projects should come constraint enabled. https://review.openstack.org/255049 | 02:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Disable Gerrit drafts feature https://review.openstack.org/255050 | 02:51 |
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| lifeless | samueldmq: you took over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228647 right ? | 02:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: New projects should come constraint enabled. https://review.openstack.org/255049 | 02:58 |
| ianw | 2015-12-09 02:57:20,327 INFO nodepool.image.build.fedora-23: + output '20-prepare-node completed' | 02:58 |
| ianw | yeay! | 02:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thanh Ha proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add view management functionality https://review.openstack.org/206178 | 04:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anusha Ramineni proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Congress: Add different gate job for stable branch https://review.openstack.org/250598 | 04:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit: Allow puppet to enabling or disabling Gerrit drafts feature https://review.openstack.org/253110 | 04:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Disable Gerrit drafts feature https://review.openstack.org/255050 | 05:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sachi King proposed openstack-dev/pbr: WIP: Handle markers to support sdist on pip < 6 https://review.openstack.org/253289 | 05:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple nodepool db and config from builders https://review.openstack.org/222398 | 05:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple builders from nodepool instance https://review.openstack.org/232135 | 05:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders can be run on their own https://review.openstack.org/232251 | 05:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Update mistral to correct repo https://review.openstack.org/253486 | 05:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Update murano to correct repo https://review.openstack.org/253487 | 05:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Luo Gangyi proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Enable pep8 H405 tests https://review.openstack.org/255074 | 05:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Update sahara projects to correct repo https://review.openstack.org/253488 | 05:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Update solum to correct repo and add missing https://review.openstack.org/253489 | 05:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack-infra/reviewstats: Remove projects not in OpenStack repo https://review.openstack.org/253490 | 05:39 |
| ianw | greghaynes: exiting the shell is what you want, right? | 05:39 |
| greghaynes | ianw: If you exit in a source it exits the calling shell though | 05:41 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: basically, it'll close your terminal | 05:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Luo Gangyi proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Enable pep8 H405 tests https://review.openstack.org/255074 | 05:42 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: but you source it into ./bin/disk-image-create ... that's what will exit? it's rather academic anyway | 05:46 |
| ianw | if you have no python there's issues | 05:46 |
| greghaynes | ianw: ah, yea, you might be right in that it isnt an issue... i'll test | 05:47 |
| greghaynes | ianw: I am going to hold off on that one until implementing the thing I mentioned on the ML | 05:47 |
| greghaynes | since that will remove most of the patch | 05:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-midonet: Enable check-requirements https://review.openstack.org/255081 | 05:58 |
| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack/requirements: Add networking-midonet to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/255082 | 05:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Cap elasticsearch client <2.0 https://review.openstack.org/252075 | 07:03 |
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| ramineni | hi, could someone please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250598/ | 08:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: networking-midonet: Enable check-requirements https://review.openstack.org/255081 | 08:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Add statusbot/eavesdrop to #midonet channel https://review.openstack.org/252172 | 08:57 |
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| bogdando | hi. How can I add myself to the fuel-noop-fixtures-core https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1205,members ? | 09:00 |
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| yolanda | hi bogdando i can add you. Do you have the link for the project creation so i can check your ownership? | 09:03 |
| bogdando | yolanda, this https://launchpad.net/fuel-noop-fixtures ? | 09:03 |
| yolanda | bogdando, no, the change you sent to create the project in openstack | 09:04 |
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| bogdando | yolanda, ah this then https://review.openstack.org/252992 | 09:04 |
| yolanda | the gerrit change | 09:04 |
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| yolanda | ok | 09:04 |
| bogdando | thank you | 09:04 |
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| yolanda | added | 09:05 |
| yolanda | you may need to relogin and/or wipe browser cache | 09:05 |
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| BobBall | anteaya, pleia2, notmorgan: Regarding the XenProject CI - it did have a period of brokenness on 7th December, but it's resolved now. As you saw a recheck got a good result on that change. | 09:27 |
| BobBall | anteaya, pleia2, notmorgan: And for the avoidance of doubt... I am Citrix and my primary focus is the XenServer CI, however I do also have admin on the xenproject CI so feel free to ask me questions :) | 09:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Create bareon project https://review.openstack.org/231677 | 09:30 |
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| sileht | hi, it looks like the dsvm centos7 for kilo branch doesn't setup correclty: http://logs.openstack.org/14/253514/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-centos7/f8047ae/logs/devstack-early.txt.gz | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Allow logserver to run on CI server (part 1) https://review.openstack.org/253642 | 09:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add new puppet-vitrage project https://review.openstack.org/252214 | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add delay-release for Gnocchi https://review.openstack.org/254696 | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Added openstack-zephyr to accessbot https://review.openstack.org/254492 | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Allow logserver to run on CI server (part 2) https://review.openstack.org/254128 | 09:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Valeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add new experimental Tempest job for Manila https://review.openstack.org/247551 | 09:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | YAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-midonet: Move ML2 job out of experimental https://review.openstack.org/255167 | 09:52 |
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| igorbelikov | hi everyone, after this change was merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247032/ launchpad bot closed the bug mentioned in commit message AND created a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1523989 | 09:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523989 in Fuel for OpenStack " Remove fuel_package_updates module" [Undecided,New] | 09:58 |
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| igorbelikov | was the bug creation some kind of glitch or is it expected (for some reason)? | 09:59 |
| AJaeger | igorbelikov: you have "DocImpact" in that change and a new bug gets created when you add "DocImpact" to it | 10:00 |
| AJaeger | See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/DocImpact | 10:00 |
| AJaeger | So, works as designed ;) | 10:01 |
| igorbelikov | AJaeger: thanks! yeah, this totally makes sense:) | 10:01 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-December/003547.html - was that a result of the midonet merge (#252172)? | 10:14 |
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| yolanda | doh, i approved a change but at 08:00 UTC | 10:15 |
| yolanda | :( | 10:15 |
| yolanda | it took long to merge | 10:15 |
| AJaeger | ;( | 10:15 |
| yolanda | i double checked the schedule before doing | 10:15 |
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| yolanda | really doing that is tricky. i wonder if we shall limit to weekends | 10:16 |
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| AJaeger | yolanda: better ask the other infras on how to do this best. | 10:17 |
| AJaeger | This was a very late merge ;( | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr: Enable pep8 H405 tests https://review.openstack.org/255074 | 10:18 |
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| yolanda | yes, the fact that we cannot control the time that a change takes to land, makes that risky | 10:19 |
| AJaeger | yep | 10:19 |
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| AJaeger | And the long list in a single line will mean that changes will create merge conflicts, so you cannot approve 5 at a time ;( | 10:19 |
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| AJaeger | nibalizer was working on a change to put the data separate which reduces merge conflicts at least | 10:20 |
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| yolanda | that will make it easier | 10:20 |
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| AJaeger | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253744/ is the change | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nikola Dipanov proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add the agenda link for the SR-IOV meeting https://review.openstack.org/255184 | 10:22 |
| yolanda | an alternative can be to stop puppet deployments on that node while there is a change pending to be merged, and start once we see it landed, and there is no meeting | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/log_processor: IPC-49 Create auto forwardable parameters https://review.openstack.org/255186 | 10:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/log_processor: Create auto forwardable parameters https://review.openstack.org/255186 | 10:27 |
| kozhukalov_ | guys, please add me as a member of this group https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1208,members I am an author of the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231677/ | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Fix setting preferences when logged out https://review.openstack.org/254702 | 10:29 |
| yolanda | AJaeger, saw it. It seems to be failing on tests, but that's a good idea,these conflicts happen quite often | 10:29 |
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| evgenyl | Hi, I'm struggling to find an instruction on how to enable a logging for a new irc-channel, is there some documentation for that? | 10:44 |
| rcarrillocruz | evgenyl: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#configure-gerritbot-to-announce-changes | 10:48 |
| rcarrillocruz | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html | 10:49 |
| sileht | AJaeger, yolanda any idea for this gate issue on centos7 and kilo branch: http://logs.openstack.org/14/253514/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-centos7/f8047ae/logs/devstack-early.txt.gz | 10:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Szymon Wróblewski proposed openstack/requirements: Bump tooz version to 1.28.0 https://review.openstack.org/254748 | 10:49 |
| jokke_ | evgenyl: really sorry, just had to http://lmgtfy.com/?q=openstack+add+logging+to+irc&l=1 :P | 10:50 |
| AJaeger | sileht: sorry, can't help here | 10:52 |
| yolanda | sileht, i suggest you spin up a centos 7 vm somehow , and try to reproduce the steps of the script. It seems to fail on yum install, but i cannot tell the reason | 10:52 |
| sileht | AJaeger, the rdo-release-kilo package installation works well locally | 10:53 |
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| evgenyl | jokke_: thanks, I've found this doc, but wasn't sure which of these bots (meetbot/statusbot/gerritbot) perform a regular logging, like this channel has logs here (http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/) | 11:00 |
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| jokke_ | evgenyl: that would be the logging part of that document | 11:01 |
| jokke_ | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html#logging | 11:02 |
| jokke_ | :) | 11:02 |
| AJaeger | evgenyl: you need accessbot to be setup in any case | 11:02 |
| AJaeger | evgenyl: no logging setup without it | 11:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Nikitin proposed openstack/requirements: Updated oslo.db to 4.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/254624 | 11:04 |
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| evgenyl | jokke_: I've read it thanks | 11:05 |
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| evgenyl | AJaeger: Looks like we have it configured https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231677/14 but I still cannot find a directory with logs | 11:05 |
| AJaeger | evgenyl: bareon merged today, so now you have accessbot setup | 11:06 |
| AJaeger | evgenyl: logging is done via change for system-config, see the link that jokke_ gave you | 11:06 |
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| mgrosz_ | Hello... I am trying to continue with initializing the new puppet-vitrage module, after change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252214/ was recently merged. I am following the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet/New_module but it seems like the script bootstarp.sh is not pointing me correctly and I am trying to understand to what repository | 11:26 |
| mgrosz_ | I need to send my changes.... | 11:26 |
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| samueldmq | lifeless: yes updating right now | 11:31 |
| mgrosz_ | Is there somwone oline? | 11:31 |
| sileht | AJaeger, yolanda any idea of who can help me to resolve this gate issue ? | 11:31 |
| samueldmq | lifeless: sorry for the delay | 11:32 |
| mgrosz_ | AJaeger, yolanda: I am trying to continue with initializing the new puppet-vitrage module, after change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252214/ was recently merged. I am following the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet/New_module but it seems like the script bootstarp.sh is not pointing me correctly and I am trying to understand to what r | 11:32 |
| mgrosz_ | epository I need to send my changes.... | 11:32 |
| yolanda | sileht i'd say you try to debug on a local centos7 vm, to try to see the problem with that install | 11:32 |
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| yolanda | later some US people like sdague or clarkb, can know better | 11:33 |
| sileht | yolanda, I have already done this and I can't reproduce | 11:33 |
| sileht | yolanda, thx I will ask them later | 11:33 |
| yolanda | mgrosz, what problems do you have with that cookiecutter? | 11:34 |
| yolanda | i haven't used but i can try to help | 11:34 |
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| mgrosz_ | yolanda: The bootstrap.sh leads me to a directory that doesn't exist... Is is updated? | 11:36 |
| yolanda | mm, the modulesyncs? | 11:37 |
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| mgrosz_ | Yes.... If I ran the script as described here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Puppet/New_module. But then I want to execute git review but there is no directory as described... | 11:38 |
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| mgrosz_ | as far as I understand, I should have a directory puppet-vitrage created (I have on under /tmp/puppet-vitrage/cookiecutter/puppet-vitrage) but I am not sure this is what I was suppose to have, as the bootstrap.sh script sends me to /tmp/puppet-vitrage/puppet-modulesync-configs/modules/puppet-vitrage which doesn't exist. Is this bootstrapt.sh update | 11:40 |
| mgrosz_ | d? | 11:40 |
| yolanda | mgrosz i'm checking myself, as i haven't dealt with that cookiecutter scripts | 11:41 |
| yolanda | ok so it fails , it doesn't generate the folder | 11:42 |
| sdague | sileht: it looks like the rdo release rpm is not installing, and devstack is failing early for that reason | 11:42 |
| sileht | sdague, yes I can't figure why | 11:42 |
| mgrosz_ | I have just downloaded the bootstrap.sh and ran it: ./bootstrap.sh vitrage matyg | 11:42 |
| yolanda | mgrosz, trying the same | 11:43 |
| sdague | sileht: possibly because rdo-release-liberty is already installed? | 11:43 |
| sdague | http://logs.openstack.org/14/253514/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-centos7/f8047ae/logs/rpm-qa.txt.gz | 11:43 |
| sdague | and it's trying to install rdo-release-kilo | 11:43 |
| sileht | sdague, woot well catch | 11:43 |
| yolanda | mgrosz, i get /tmp/puppet-vitrage/puppet-modulesync-configs, but then i don't get modules/puppet-vitrage folder, is that the same there? | 11:44 |
| sileht | sdague, should I fix devstack ? or the gate vm should be cleaned ? | 11:44 |
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| yolanda | mgrosz, i see "msync not found" error | 11:45 |
| samueldmq | lifeless: ^ | 11:45 |
| yolanda | do you have the same? | 11:45 |
| samueldmq | bknudson: cc ^ | 11:45 |
| Kennan | hi infra-cores | 11:45 |
| Kennan | do you know what's the limitation for jenknis jobs run for one VM ? | 11:46 |
| Kennan | we found that it hit | 11:46 |
| AJaeger | mgrosz_: talk with the other puppet folks...# | 11:46 |
| Kennan | filter_properties)\n', u' File "/opt/stack/new/nova/nova/compute/manager.py", line 2070, in _build_and_run_instance\n instance_uuid=instance.uuid, reason=six.text_type(e))\n', u"RescheduledException: Build of instance 1109482a-bb32-4f90-a67c-8908517c9889 was re-scheduled: internal error: process exited while connecting to monitor: Cannot set up guest memory 'pc.ram': Cannot allocate memory\n\n"] | 11:46 |
| Kennan | We have one VM, and in that vm, we boot two qemu instances | 11:47 |
| AJaeger | mgrosz_: there's puppet-openstack channel... | 11:47 |
| Kennan | not sure what changed in the infra underlay | 11:47 |
| Kennan | before it can allocate resource and worked | 11:47 |
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| Kennan | now, it seems failed quite oftem | 11:47 |
| Kennan | often | 11:47 |
| mgrosz_ | AJaeger: I will. Thanks | 11:48 |
| Kennan | seems we have some resource restriction now in jeknins run job | 11:48 |
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| Kennan | anyone core knows about it ? Thanks | 11:48 |
| Kennan | http://logs.openstack.org/40/252240/7/check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-k8s/f84764d/logs/screen-n-cond.txt | 11:48 |
| yolanda | mgrosz, yes, better ask there, the script seems to be failing or at least have missing dependencies | 11:48 |
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| AJaeger | Kennan: can you compare a successful and a failing run? Are both on machines in the same cloud? | 11:49 |
| AJaeger | Would be good to dig out whether there's a common thing between failures, e.g. all failing in cloud X... | 11:50 |
| Kennan | AJaeger how can find the cloud ? | 11:50 |
| Kennan | seems all our jenkins failed about this | 11:50 |
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| AJaeger | kenan, see first few lines of http://logs.openstack.org/40/252240/7/check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-k8s/f84764d/console.html | 11:50 |
| Kennan | AJaeger: thanks, which line include that message ? I checked not get it | 11:52 |
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| Kennan | did nova changed libvirt these days ? if not infra issue. let me check more | 11:53 |
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| gsagie | If anyone can review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249643/ will be great (assuming no meetings are happening right now) | 11:59 |
| gsagie | just needs workflow | 11:59 |
| Kennan | Got this | 12:00 |
| Kennan | internal error: early end of file from monitor: possible problem: | 12:00 |
| Kennan | Cannot set up guest memory 'pc.ram': Cannot allocate memory | 12:00 |
| Kennan | http://logs.openstack.org/58/251158/2/check/gate-functional-dsvm-magnum-swarm/73450c1/logs/libvirt/libvirtd.txt.gz | 12:00 |
| Kennan | libvirt failed | 12:00 |
| AJaeger | Kennan: third line "Building remotely on devstack-trusty-ovh-gra1-6437456 (devstack-trusty)" | 12:01 |
| AJaeger | ovh is the cloud, gra1 the region | 12:01 |
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| Kennan | OK AJaeger: I remember nova or libvirt support overcommit | 12:02 |
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| AJaeger | Kennan: you might want to ask on #openstack-qa or on #openstack-nova... | 12:03 |
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| sileht | sdague, should I fix devstack ? or the gate vm should be cleaned ? | 12:06 |
| sdague | sileht: maybe a patch to devstack, honestly I haven't seen the centos7 job work in a long time, so I have no idea | 12:07 |
| sileht | sdague, I will tried a devstack patch | 12:08 |
| sileht | sdague, oslo.messaging liberty have gate jobs that vote, so backports are currently stuck | 12:11 |
| gsagie | If i want to write test for a tempest job that run in the gate that uses the Neutron client, which credentials/auth_url and etc should i create the client with? | 12:11 |
| gsagie | or if anyone can point me to an example, will be great :) | 12:12 |
| sileht | sdague, the latest stable rdo-release package is installed in gate for rhel7 to get openvswitch | 12:14 |
| sileht | https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/master/install_puppet.sh#L131 | 12:14 |
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| sdague | sileht: ok, so something special probably needs to be sorted there. ianw or afazekas typically look at those | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/os-loganalyze: Whitelist ironic- prefix in filter.py https://review.openstack.org/255231 | 12:26 |
| dtantsur | sdague, please take a look ^^ if you have a minute | 12:26 |
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| dims | sdague : one from me as well :) fix for a grenade upgrade problem - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ib78b4252b6b1213e497b2365698edbc955c111d2,n,z | 12:27 |
| sdague | dtantsur: oh, it's not using ir- as it's screen name? | 12:28 |
| sdague | I think that's what was expected | 12:28 |
| sdague | but I'm fine with that as well | 12:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [sahara] job for sahara-dashboard integration tests https://review.openstack.org/255232 | 12:28 |
| dtantsur | sdague, yeah, I didn't realize it's important back then :) and I assumed using full name would be more user friendly.. | 12:29 |
| sdague | dims: right, I still don't like or understand this | 12:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [sahara] job for sahara-dashboard integration tests https://review.openstack.org/255232 | 12:30 |
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| sdague | dims: a change made there is because the project make a non safe upgrade change, and there is a release note about it | 12:30 |
| sdague | dims: why is this required? | 12:30 |
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| dims | sdague : kilo nova api-paste.ini has references to oslo.middleware, in Mitaka oslo.middleware we dropped oslo.middleware finally now and that scenario fails | 12:33 |
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| sdague | what does nova master currently do? | 12:33 |
| dims | that's fine because liberty's nova api-paste.ini was already corrected a while ago | 12:34 |
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| sdague | ok, so if liberty api-paste ini is fine, then I don't understand why the master patch is needed | 12:34 |
| sdague | and I don't think it should be required for kilo | 12:34 |
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| sdague | because we can't post date changes like this | 12:34 |
| sdague | the oslo.middleware that gets used with liberty needs to never drop this, because it was shipped with something this fundamental | 12:35 |
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| sdague | iirc - liberty is the deprecation cycle, so it can't be removed from liberty using stuff | 12:36 |
| dims | kilo->liberty fails only when oslo.middleware shipped for mitaka fails | 12:36 |
| sdague | ok, but then you just kicked all the ops in the knees if they upgrade from kilo -> liberty 3 months late | 12:37 |
| sdague | you broke the deprecation guaruntees | 12:37 |
| sdague | if that kilo -> liberty upgrade patch is needed to keep the gate working, then we've got a way bigger problem | 12:38 |
| dims | guess, this is the larger conversation about when we can even get rid of anything or even do any development work in oslo at all | 12:38 |
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| dims | i'll abandon the patches | 12:38 |
| dims | for the grenade problem | 12:38 |
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| sdague | dims: the master patch isn't needed anyway, right? | 12:39 |
| sdague | because it's right in liberty | 12:39 |
| dims | sdague : there's a from-kilo there...so i thought if it is there then it should be fixed there | 12:39 |
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| sdague | oh, yeh, that's mostly for bleed over | 12:39 |
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| sdague | because there is a window of time not all the branches align | 12:40 |
| sdague | dims: ok, but you do understand that if this is needed for kilo -> liberty we just broke 100s of ops teams, right? | 12:40 |
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| afazekas | sileht: which job is failing, can you give me a link ? | 12:51 |
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| markus_z | We have a peak in the failure rates of the grenade gate and check jobs, is that already known? http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/tempest-failure-rate | 12:55 |
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| markus_z | I haven't found a discussion on the ML or in the previous chats in this channel about this peak. | 12:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [sahara] job for sahara-dashboard integration tests https://review.openstack.org/255232 | 13:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix pollscm backwards compatiblity https://review.openstack.org/252069 | 13:10 |
| sileht | afazekas: http://logs.openstack.org/14/253514/1/check/gate-oslo.messaging-dsvm-functional-amqp1-centos7/f8047ae/logs/, sdague found the issue, I have proposed this to fix it https://review.openstack.org/255230 | 13:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-ovn rally job https://review.openstack.org/255250 | 13:14 |
| afazekas | sileht, thx | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-ovn rally job https://review.openstack.org/255251 | 13:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow arguments to docs env to be passed https://review.openstack.org/255252 | 13:18 |
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| samueldmq | morning | 13:25 |
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| samueldmq | I have an issue with my keystoneclient functional tests gate job | 13:26 |
| samueldmq | I can't import openstack_client_config from within it | 13:26 |
| samueldmq | http://logs.openstack.org/71/253971/6/check/gate-keystoneclient-dsvm-functional/fb266e6/console.html#_2015-12-08_12_06_14_206 | 13:26 |
| mordred | samueldmq: that's because that's not the module name | 13:26 |
| mordred | samueldmq: it's os_client_config | 13:26 |
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| samueldmq | mordred: err; thanks | 13:27 |
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| mordred | :) | 13:28 |
| samueldmq | mordred: I even compared the gate job definition with novaclient's one :/ | 13:28 |
| mordred | samueldmq: it happens | 13:28 |
| samueldmq | these types of error is sometimes the hardest to find | 13:28 |
| mordred | samueldmq: btw - notmorgan and I enjoyed the cachaça you brought him finally | 13:28 |
| notmorgan | mordred: ++ | 13:29 |
| samueldmq | mordred: notmorgan: wow the one from Paris ? :) | 13:29 |
| notmorgan | yah | 13:29 |
| mordred | samueldmq: yup. I guess the key to enjoying cachaça is to hang out with me :) | 13:29 |
| samueldmq | notmorgan: mordred was it good ? | 13:29 |
| mordred | samueldmq: yup! | 13:29 |
| mordred | delicious | 13:29 |
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| mordred | and all gone now | 13:29 |
| samueldmq | haha already ? :) yeah now I am sure you enjoyed :) | 13:30 |
| openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack-dev/cookiecutter: Don't include file openstack-common.conf https://review.openstack.org/255256 | 13:31 |
| asselin | yolanda, can you re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238606/ | 13:31 |
| samueldmq | notmorgan: that is made in my hometown, and mordred knows the 3 varieties they make there | 13:31 |
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| yolanda | sure | 13:32 |
| mordred | samueldmq: yes I do - I have enjoyed all of them | 13:33 |
| mordred | samueldmq: in fact, I just had some Ouro last night | 13:33 |
| samueldmq | mordred: which one did you prefer ? | 13:33 |
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| samueldmq | do* | 13:33 |
| mordred | samueldmq: I like all three- each are different :) | 13:35 |
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| samueldmq | mordred: ++ agree | 13:36 |
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| flip214 | help, please. I keep running into known bugs that already expired some time in the past, because nobody seems to care about them any more. | 13:41 |
| flip214 | like https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade/+bug/1466485 right now. | 13:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466485 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "keystone fails with: ArgsAlreadyParsedError: arguments already parsed: cannot register CLI option" [Critical,Expired] | 13:41 |
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| flip214 | is there somebody that I could poke about things like this? | 13:41 |
| flip214 | obviously, I can't fix them (all) by myself... | 13:41 |
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| yolanda | hi crinkle, for the question about inventory you raised.. why do not manage them on hiera? we can have a list of dictionaries, and you can update depending on your situation | 13:44 |
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| yolanda | i mean, instead of only using hiera to manage the password, use it to manage the full inventory entries | 13:44 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: how would we distinguish between which machines are enabled and disabled? i guess just an extra key in the hiera entry? | 13:46 |
| mordred | yolanda, crinkle: what's the question? | 13:46 |
| mordred | and by "manage them in hiera" - do you mean secret hiera, or in-tree hiera? | 13:47 |
| yolanda | crinkle, just some entry in the hiera dict for the server will be fine. And puppet module can compose baremetal.json using that flag | 13:47 |
| mordred | crinkle: have you eed the enable/disable system we put in place for puppet apply? | 13:47 |
| yolanda | mordred, about a question on https://review.openstack.org/231757 | 13:47 |
| * mordred goes to read | 13:47 | |
| crinkle | mordred: we have a json file with the inventory list, but not every machine in the inventory is working, plus the baremetal host itself shouldn't be enrolled in ironic | 13:48 |
| crinkle | mordred: so, how do we distinguish | 13:48 |
| mordred | ah | 13:48 |
| mordred | this is an interesting question | 13:48 |
| yolanda | i'd like to see some yaml in hiera. We do it similar for nodepool secure.conf, to describe jenkins masters for example | 13:49 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: i think that would work, but it also seems like it's making puppet do extra work to turn yaml data into json data | 13:51 |
| crinkle | we could possibly convince bifrost itself to accept a 'disabled' flag | 13:52 |
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| yolanda | crinkle, an additional reason... i generally don't like to show that operational details on puppet. We are showing ips, users there | 13:52 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: I agree that separating that data is good practice in puppet, but on the other hand my experience with this group is a preference for keeping the config as simple as possible | 13:54 |
| crinkle | we could maybe retrofit the puppet-apply enable/disable system for this | 13:55 |
| yolanda | crinkle, what do you mean? | 13:55 |
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| yolanda | also, is it expensive to conver a yaml to a json in puppet? this shouldn't change very often, only when we add more hosts, or we update some node from enabled to disabled | 13:57 |
| crinkle | i don't think it's expensive, just kind of round-a-bout | 13:58 |
| crinkle | yolanda: i think it's a reasonable solution, i'll move forward on that | 14:00 |
| crinkle | yolanda: thank you | 14:00 |
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| yolanda | crinkle great | 14:02 |
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| mordred | sooooo | 14:05 |
| mordred | yolanda, crinkle: a few thoughts | 14:06 |
| mordred | TheJulia: how hard would it be to convice you to accept yaml in addition to json directly in bifrost? | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add separate linkcheck env and allow generic args to docs https://review.openstack.org/255252 | 14:07 |
| mordred | yolanda, crinkle: second - I don't think we should put complex data into secret yaml. we _CAN_ however put just the secret data into secret yaml and the non-secret data in in-tree yaml and the hiera merge should do things right | 14:08 |
| yolanda | mordred, how will it that work in terms of complexity? are we normally using these two levels of hiera together? | 14:09 |
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| crinkle | mordred: agreed, this would go in the public hiera | 14:11 |
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| anteaya | BobBall: thanks for the clarification, glad the issue was already addressed, thank you :) | 14:13 |
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| mordred | yolanda: dunno - I just know that I want most of that data in public git repos | 14:13 |
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| yolanda | i'm normally concerned about exposing operational details publicliy | 14:13 |
| crinkle | mordred: i don't think we need to get bifrost to accept yaml (hiera could actually accept json if we wanted), it's more about how we split the data up | 14:13 |
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| mordred | yolanda: I hear that - but here it's what we do | 14:14 |
| mordred | :) | 14:14 |
| mordred | yolanda: so we just have to make sure that we're careful with how we do it | 14:14 |
| mordred | crinkle: kk | 14:14 |
| yolanda | yes, we need to strengthen the passwords, and make them unique at least | 14:14 |
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| mordred | biab | 14:15 |
| TheJulia | mordred: already do | 14:16 |
| TheJulia | mordred: if it is json or yaml, regardless it gets passed in | 14:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | i'm happy we are on the same page in regards to hiera/public cloud | 14:16 |
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| rcarrillocruz | that's what i suggested to crinkle yesterday | 14:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 14:16 |
| rcarrillocruz | i found horrible to have all the inventory in puppet, given that's data... | 14:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add separate job to check docs links for JJB https://review.openstack.org/255277 | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Darragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Separate linkcheck job allows removal from docs run https://review.openstack.org/255280 | 14:20 |
| yolanda | ah crinkle, i'm tweaking a bit the bifrost change for static dnsmasq. I found it works with your change, but as we have several other nics hooked to same vlan, dnsmasq was giving ips to them, causing our static allocation to fail | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add kmod to package-installs of ironic-agent https://review.openstack.org/235236 | 14:27 |
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| smcginnis | Time for my weekly infra question. ;) | 14:28 |
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| smcginnis | We have several projects defined in project-config gerritbot channels. | 14:28 |
| smcginnis | https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/gerritbot/channels.yaml#L366 | 14:28 |
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| smcginnis | I know we are getting bot notifications for events for the cinder and os-brick, and i'm pretty sure for cinder-soecs | 14:29 |
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| smcginnis | but I know for a fact nothing is coming through for python-cinderclient. | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | Any way to see why this is? | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | I know it used to. The only recent change was to add change-merged to the events list. | 14:30 |
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| BobBall | anteaya: FYI we've got the tracking page (zuul.openstack.xenproject.org/scoreboard) listed on the third party CIs info page - so it should also be trivial to see if there is an ongoing issue or if the CI currently seems healthy | 14:31 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: the static allocation should only be giving ips to known mac addresses | 14:35 |
| yolanda | crinkle yes, but it missed the static flag so our setup was still offering ips to other nics | 14:36 |
| anteaya | BobBall: what link do you use for the third party CIs info page? | 14:36 |
| yolanda | not sure if that's the same on west, but we have 4 nics attached to each vlan, not only the ones we use | 14:36 |
| crinkle | yolanda: i'm not sure what you mean, 4 nics per host? 4 nics in addition to the ones we're using? | 14:38 |
| yolanda | well, three extra nics in addition to the ones we use | 14:38 |
| yolanda | so dnmasq was giving ips to all those, we need to add an "static" flag to the config: https://review.openstack.org/255182 | 14:39 |
| jd__ | can I have help wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255196/ ? :) | 14:39 |
| anteaya | BobBall: there are a few options out there and while there is a spec up to bring one under infra service, I don't believe that has happened yet | 14:39 |
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| anteaya | BobBall: I want to ensure we are talking about the same tool's info page | 14:40 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: it shouldn't hurt our infrastructure for dnsmasq to give ips to other nodes, it won't give away the ones where we've assigned a mac address | 14:41 |
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| crinkle | yolanda: i think we might be set up differently, in west there's no vlan on the private ips that the bifrost dnsmasq is managing, and then i have a second dnsmasq that does have dhcp-range:static set for the tagged interfaces | 14:42 |
| crinkle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231757/26/files/dnsmasq.conf.vlan25 | 14:42 |
| yolanda | crinkle, so i found conflicts. dnsmasq was giving an ip that was statically assigned to some other nic that requested before. So when it arrived to the moment that it had to assign the static ip to the one i wanted, it just complained because of that ip was already allocated | 14:42 |
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| smcginnis | anteaya: Morning! Any thoughts from my comments several lines up ^^? | 14:43 |
| anteaya | smcginnis: yes been looking into it | 14:43 |
| anteaya | I found: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-cinder/%23openstack-cinder.2015-12-09.log.html#t2015-12-09T00:19:16 | 14:43 |
| yolanda | crinkle yes, that setup is different | 14:43 |
| crinkle | yolanda: you should be able to get dnsmasq to release that lease | 14:43 |
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| smcginnis | anteaya: hmmmm | 14:43 |
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| anteaya | smcginnis: and http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-cinder/%23openstack-cinder.2015-12-09.log.html#t2015-12-09T02:52:53 | 14:44 |
| yolanda | crinkle yes, manually removing the lease works | 14:44 |
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| smcginnis | anteaya: Maybe it fixed itself since I noticed it. | 14:44 |
| anteaya | so you are getting python-cinderclint change merged and change proposed at least | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | anteaya: I'll try pushing up a dummy patch and see if it notifies the channel. | 14:44 |
| anteaya | smcginnis: I see it as working | 14:44 |
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| anteaya | smcginnis: okey dokey | 14:44 |
| * anteaya moves to -cinder | 14:44 | |
| smcginnis | anteaya: Thanks for looking into it. I'll let you know how my test goes. | 14:44 |
| anteaya | sure, welcome | 14:45 |
| asselin | BobBall, anteaya, we're getting closer to having an infra hosted ci-watch. | 14:45 |
| anteaya | asselin: figured as much, you are no slouch when it comes to making progress :) | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make it clear that all fields are required https://review.openstack.org/255291 | 14:46 |
| anteaya | asselin: I'm just not sure which tool BobBall is referencing in his comment to me in backscroll | 14:46 |
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| asselin | anteaya, that's the scoreboard tool...it was one of the options considered, but we went with ci-watch instead. | 14:48 |
| anteaya | asselin: have you a link to the scoreboard tool? | 14:49 |
| * anteaya doesn't have the link | 14:49 | |
| openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Make it clear that all fields are required https://review.openstack.org/255291 | 14:49 |
| asselin | anteaya, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/third-party-ci-tools/tree/monitoring/scoreboard | 14:49 |
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| asselin | I assume you mean the source code. | 14:50 |
| anteaya | no | 14:50 |
| anteaya | I mean the url so I can see the shiny dashboard | 14:50 |
| anteaya | thanks though | 14:50 |
| anteaya | I can't keep track of all the things | 14:50 |
| asselin | http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=cinder&time=24+hours | 14:50 |
| anteaya | which is why your work is so helpful, asselin, thanks | 14:51 |
| asselin | this is the version we're working on ^^ | 14:51 |
| anteaya | thanks | 14:52 |
| asselin | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/ciwatch,n,z | 14:52 |
| asselin | topic:ci-dashboard | 14:52 |
| anteaya | nice work | 14:52 |
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| asselin | I can't take any really. mmedvede and apoorva are the active ones. I just review. | 14:53 |
| anteaya | that is very important | 14:54 |
| anteaya | as you know | 14:54 |
| asselin | yes :) | 14:54 |
| anteaya | :) | 14:54 |
| anteaya | I'm going to see if I can get a walk in | 14:55 |
| anteaya | back in a bit | 14:55 |
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| e0ne | jgriffith: hi. FYI, I've updated spec https://review.openstack.org/224124 to implement cinderclient extension instead of python-brickclient | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Damien RANNOU proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Change max-servers settings for OVH BHS region https://review.openstack.org/255306 | 14:59 |
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| e0ne | opps, wrong channel:( | 15:02 |
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| nibalizer | yolanda: the in-tree hiera is failing a few tests though | 15:04 |
| nibalizer | ill need to investigate and fix | 15:04 |
| yolanda | hi nibalizer, great, need a hand? | 15:05 |
| nibalizer | if you want to investigate be my guest | 15:05 |
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| yolanda | do you have the url handy? | 15:05 |
| nibalizer | ya sec | 15:06 |
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| nibalizer | stack starting here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206779/ | 15:06 |
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| yolanda | ok | 15:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add python jobs for tacker client https://review.openstack.org/255208 | 15:09 |
| yolanda | ugh, nibalizer, that's consequence on how we handle defaults in our tests, where there is no hiera default | 15:10 |
| yolanda | $elasticsearch_nodes = 'elasticsearch_nodesNoDefault' | 15:11 |
| yolanda | and fails with | 15:11 |
| yolanda | Detail: undefined method `join' for "elasticsearch_nodesNoDefault":String | 15:11 |
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| yolanda | so easy way to fix.. we add a [] default to hiera | 15:11 |
| yolanda | difficult way, we make defaults a bit more intelligent | 15:11 |
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| nibalizer | i like easy | 15:17 |
| BobBall | anteaya: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/XenProject_CI / https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/XenServer_CI both link to the tracking page | 15:17 |
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| BobBall | asselin: ci-watch isn't as useful as scoreboard though :/ Very cluttered :) | 15:18 |
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| nibalizer | yolanda: how come it passes on trusty but not the others? | 15:18 |
| nibalizer | oh because of node-type ? | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation https://review.openstack.org/198458 | 15:19 |
| yolanda | yep, i guess it skips that bits for trusty | 15:19 |
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| samueldmq | mordred: just to confirm | 15:21 |
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| samueldmq | mordred: http://logs.openstack.org/71/253971/7/check/gate-keystoneclient-dsvm-functional/2b7eefe/console.html#_2015-12-09_14_07_28_278 | 15:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation https://review.openstack.org/198458 | 15:22 |
| samueldmq | mordred: this is because we need the new release of os-client-config | 15:22 |
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| fredericve | hello all, I'm trying to clone the openstack infrastructure for our own projects. I'm reading the "running your own" documentation and I'm a bit confused with how I can override the configuration on top of the defaults in system-config. There is talk about "cloning the entire tree". Does that mean I should just do "git clone" somewhere else on top of the clone I already have in /opt/system-config? | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Summit Application API https://review.openstack.org/221964 | 15:24 |
| fredericve | my sincere apologies if that sounds stupid | 15:24 |
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| eantyshev | fredericve: AFAIU, you read an outdated recipe, check out this new version: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/contrib/README.md | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack-infra/project-config: make gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full job voting https://review.openstack.org/212058 | 15:32 |
| fredericve | eantyshev: sweet! thanks! | 15:33 |
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| eantyshev | Hello, are there anybody capable for merging to puppet projects or system-config? If you do, could you please do so for 253642, 253619, 254128 series | 15:34 |
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| asselin | nibalizer, yolanda and you review eantyshev patches ^^? | 15:35 |
| asselin | BobBall, can you elaborate? | 15:35 |
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| BobBall | Well when I want to look at the historical view of a CI, or comparison between it and another non-jenkins CI it's really hard to do. With scoreboard you could filter based on which CI you're interested in | 15:40 |
| eantyshev | asselin: it would be nice if anybody reviews 239479, too :) | 15:42 |
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| sdague | logstash ui seems wedged | 15:43 |
| sdague | which makes it hard to find our new 50% failure in multinode | 15:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Haley proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr job voting https://review.openstack.org/255325 | 15:44 |
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| thinrichs | Does anyone know how to convince launchpad to show the most recent release (liberty) as the "Latest version" on the landing page? | 15:45 |
| thinrichs | For congress it's still showing kilo, even though the liberty release date is after kilo. | 15:45 |
| thinrichs | I expect it's b/c kilo's version is 2015.1.0 and liberty's is 2.0.0 | 15:46 |
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| mriedem | sdague: it's dead | 15:49 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html | 15:49 |
| mriedem | Delay in Elastic Search:Â Indexing behind by 14 hours | 15:49 |
| fungi | yolanda: looks like you approved https://review.openstack.org/252172 while there were meetings underway, so you may want to reply to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-December/003547.html | 15:50 |
| yolanda | fungi well, the approval was done an hour ago, but took ages.. yes | 15:50 |
| yolanda | how do you normally deal with that? | 15:50 |
| yolanda | when i approved i double checked agenda, it was no meeting | 15:51 |
| sdague | mriedem: fun | 15:51 |
| fungi | if gating is slow/backed up then we usually hold off or wait until some time when there are several hours before any scheduled meeting | 15:52 |
| fungi | because, as you point out, it can sometimes take more than an hour for a change to merge | 15:52 |
| fungi | if we get someone to rewrite our service bots, ideally we'll have a bot framework that can join new channels without restarting/losing state on existing channels, or worse case delay its restarts until it's idle | 15:53 |
| fungi | but unfortunately that's not the case for now | 15:54 |
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| cbader | I am looking for someone knowledgeable on zuul ssh to upstream. I am having an issue where I get a zuul-merger error failing on publickey during the git clone. can seem to figure it out. | 15:54 |
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| yolanda | ok i'll consider for next time. I'll reply now | 15:56 |
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| asselin | BobBall, ok, so just need a way to filter out some of the ci. thanks for the feedback. | 15:56 |
| BobBall | asselin: Well - tbh the other fab thing about scoreboard is a summary for how many passed/failed over the period you're interested in for each CI (in this case it'd be per-job) | 15:57 |
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| BobBall | Takes the guesswork out of seeing the overall picture | 15:57 |
| BobBall | If that were added I'd be so very happy indeed :) | 15:58 |
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| asselin | BobBall, ok noted as well. If you or someone else is interested to work on it or review patches, let me know. | 15:59 |
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| bardia | Our CI's Zuul service just stopped receiving gerrit changeset updates out of nowhere yesterday. It has been running fine for weeks now and constantly receiving updates and running tests. I had to manually reset the Zuul service for it to start receiving changesets and running tests. | 16:00 |
| bardia | There are no errors or tracebacks in any of zuul's logs | 16:00 |
| BobBall | More than happy to review patches (although my knowledge of ci-watch is precisely 0 ATM) but it'd take me a while to get around to implementing the changes if I'm honest. | 16:00 |
| BobBall | bardia: I've seen that too - I think it was caused by a network interruption that zuul didn't spot. | 16:01 |
| asselin | BobBall, sure, it's new for everyone, so a great time to start. :) | 16:01 |
| asselin | BobBall, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/ciwatch+status:open,n,z | 16:01 |
| bardia | BobBall: so I just have to keep an eye on zuul? | 16:01 |
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| asselin | bardia, BobBall https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238988/ | 16:03 |
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| bardia | asselin: thanks | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/puppet-log_processor: Pin python-daemon version https://review.openstack.org/255344 | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Correct the entry points of cucumber-testresult https://review.openstack.org/253282 | 16:13 |
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| anteaya | BobBall: thank you | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrea Frittoli proposed openstack-infra/puppet-log_processor: Pin python-daemon version https://review.openstack.org/255344 | 16:15 |
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| anteaya | clarkb fungi as a email data point I didn't recieve this post in my thunderbird client inbox, just yolanda's reply: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2015-December/003547.html | 16:16 |
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| anteaya | clarkb fungi I don't know if that is a mailserver thing or a thunderbird client thing | 16:17 |
| yolanda | anteaya, i neither received that, i just quoted in my reply | 16:17 |
| anteaya | yolanda: thanks for the confirmation | 16:18 |
| yolanda | saw the comment in the list due to fungi, and prior, due to AJaeger pointing that to me this morning, but i don't have that in my inbox, and i didn't trash it, or not filtered in any folder | 16:18 |
| yolanda | i just did a massive search on my thunderbird folders without success | 16:18 |
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| anteaya | I don't see it in spam or trash for me either | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Antoine Cabot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add watcher project to gerritbot https://review.openstack.org/254765 | 16:19 |
| anteaya | oh wait there it is, it _was_ in my inbox just way way way down the list | 16:20 |
| anteaya | my fault | 16:20 |
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| mriedem | jeblair: fungi: clarkb: anything in the logstash job logs about that going down? | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Add kmod to package-installs of ironic-agent https://review.openstack.org/235236 | 16:22 |
| EmilienM | nibalizer, crinkle: fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254933/ | 16:22 |
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| yolanda | i don't have on mine, but i may have a problem, i haven't received infra emails today | 16:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Fausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Creation of a dedicated repo for API and media storage client https://review.openstack.org/255349 | 16:24 |
| jeblair | yolanda, fungi: we should be able to approve https://review.openstack.org/255306 now | 16:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/project-config: test requirements with grenade multinode https://review.openstack.org/255353 | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use In-Tree Public Hiera data https://review.openstack.org/206779 | 16:27 |
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| rcarrillocruz | zomg, in-tree public hiera! | 16:29 |
| * rcarrillocruz dances | 16:29 | |
| anteaya | ttx lifeless would like to hear your thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255353/1 which adds a job to the requirements repo | 16:29 |
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| nibalizer | rcarrillocruz: ya, the future is real! | 16:32 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: if I had to guess we likely leaked indexes again | 16:32 |
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| rcarrillocruz | heh | 16:33 |
| electrofelix | zaro wayne zxiiro: are we happy enough with the parallelization for JJB to review/approve https://review.openstack.org/180463? | 16:33 |
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| zxiiro | electrofelix: I've been using it for awhile and i'm satisfied with it. I didn't vote since i rebased it | 16:34 |
| zxiiro | looking forward to it getting merged | 16:34 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: confirmed htat we have far more than 10 indexes, any idea why curator isn't doing its job? | 16:34 |
| jeblair | you had one job curator | 16:34 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you looked into this last, anything you think we should do before running curator by hand? | 16:34 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ah, check logfiles | 16:35 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we ran out of space last time and there were no logs | 16:35 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the last logfile was written on 11-30 | 16:35 |
| jeblair | clarkb: uhoh did we just let the same thing happen? | 16:35 |
| clarkb | we have 1.3GB of disk | 16:35 |
| jeblair | oh cool | 16:35 |
| clarkb | I think its only running when we run it by hand | 16:35 |
| zxiiro | electrofelix: I'm looking forward to getting the views feature as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206178/ | 16:35 |
| clarkb | something is broken about the cron | 16:35 |
| jeblair | so we're just at 'logstash is real slow' | 16:35 |
| clarkb | path/time/something | 16:35 |
| clarkb | jeblair: well no queries are succeeding due to the OOM prevention stuff | 16:36 |
| nibalizer | again?! | 16:36 |
| clarkb | Data too large | 16:36 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes indexes are not being deleted | 16:36 |
| nibalizer | awesome | 16:36 |
| jeblair | clarkb: where's this run? | 16:36 |
| electrofelix | zxiiro: I've got 13 changes outstanding for JJB excluding the two around entry points :( | 16:36 |
| clarkb | jeblair: on the elasticsearch nodes | 16:36 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: it runs on every node? | 16:37 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes | 16:37 |
| jeblair | clarkb: is that workable? | 16:37 |
| clarkb | yes | 16:37 |
| clarkb | they will all submit deletes for the same indexes and es will only delete once | 16:37 |
| zxiiro | electrofelix: I hear ya, I'll do another round of reviews soon. I spent a whole night doing reviews a few weeks ago. | 16:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: makes sense... unless they exit on failure or something | 16:38 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Is kite still a thing? | 16:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: they'd probably eventually suceed though even if they do that | 16:38 |
| * krotscheck sees your commit against it. | 16:38 | |
| clarkb | I think I know what the problem is | 16:38 |
| clarkb | % is special in cron | 16:38 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: ^ | 16:38 |
| * krotscheck also notes its the only change since june 25th | 16:38 | |
| nibalizer | haha so 'glance image-create' with no arguments just goes ahead and creates an image with no data and empty string as a name | 16:38 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, doesn't look like its running; i bet if we had syslog back from long enough ago we'd see an error from when it was added | 16:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the issue is the % | 16:40 |
| clarkb | it is running but % makes it not do anything useful | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Change max-servers settings for OVH BHS region https://review.openstack.org/255306 | 16:40 |
| jeblair | clarkb: where do you see it running? | 16:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't, but I know % wil break it | 16:41 |
| jeblair | clarkb: okay, i don't see it running | 16:41 |
| electrofelix | zxiiro: are you aware of https://review.openstack.org/#/projects/openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder,dashboards/important-changes:review-inbox-dashboard | 16:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Guido Günther proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: delivery-pipeline: support task description template https://review.openstack.org/255365 | 16:41 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think its running and silently succeeding at doing nothing bceause of the % | 16:41 |
| mordred | krotscheck: aroo? | 16:41 |
| krotscheck | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225744/1 | 16:42 |
| krotscheck | That's yours. | 16:42 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: barbican feels kite is still a thing I believe | 16:42 |
| mordred | krotscheck: oh - no clue honestly - I patch-bombed all openstack repos with that patch | 16:42 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: oh? what does % do in cron? | 16:42 |
| krotscheck | anteaya: Ok, I'll ask over there. | 16:43 |
| jeblair | jesusaurus: it terminates the command and passes the rest of the line as stdin | 16:43 |
| jeblair | needs to be escaped with \ | 16:43 |
| jesusaurus | wow TIL | 16:43 |
| anteaya | krotscheck: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n35 | 16:43 |
| zxiiro | electrofelix: I am not, but that's good to know. I'll bookmark it thanks! | 16:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new projects for the OSA role break out https://review.openstack.org/255369 | 16:44 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: you can see the escaped in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222742/3/modules/openstack_project/manifests/elasticsearch_node.pp | 16:45 |
| clarkb | anyways I am going to run by hand | 16:45 |
| clarkb | and hopefully we can get escapes in today | 16:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Fausto Marzi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Creation of a dedicated repo for API and media storage client https://review.openstack.org/255349 | 16:46 |
| jesusaurus | I'll write up a quick change for that if no one else is yet | 16:46 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: i am spawning a vm on omfra cloud! | 16:47 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: zomg | 16:47 |
| fungi | zomfra! | 16:48 |
| mordred | do we have it in dns yet? | 16:48 |
| anteaya | http://www.zombo.com/ | 16:48 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: by hand or with nodepool? | 16:48 |
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| fungi | mordred: not to my knowledge. i volunteered but need to know what it's to be called | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | K Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Escape % in cron command https://review.openstack.org/255371 | 16:48 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: by hand right now | 16:49 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: ^ | 16:49 |
| nibalizer | nodepool after | 16:49 |
| anteaya | zomfra cloud | 16:49 |
| fungi | bwahaha | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | is that a brand of vanilla? | 16:49 |
| fungi | anyway, i assumed there was a bikeshed color scheme discussion coming before i paint dns with it | 16:50 |
| mordred | oh, I thought the bikeshed was about the region name | 16:50 |
| mriedem | clarkb: just read scrollback, thanks for looking into that | 16:50 |
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| fungi | will the region name be part of the dns entry? | 16:50 |
| pleia2 | good morning | 16:50 |
| mordred | the adminrc file calls the controller node "controller00.hpuswest.ic.openstack.org" | 16:51 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: I think I only know about it because it bit me when I wrote the first cron | 16:51 |
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| nibalizer | i think it was suggested that we make a vanilla cloud, a chocolate cloud, and a strawberry cloud | 16:51 |
| clarkb | and its obscure enough I didn't remember until just now | 16:51 |
| mordred | and I think we decided that we'd call that region "hpuswest" | 16:51 |
| mordred | but I could be very misremembering that | 16:51 |
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| nibalizer | another question I'm wondering is if we do real certs for this | 16:51 |
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| nibalizer | as it is, it is set up with a self signed cert | 16:52 |
| nibalizer | and I have the cacert file and am setting it with OS_CACERT | 16:52 |
| anteaya | morning pleia2 | 16:52 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes I think so, also what version of pytho nare you on that actually checks the cert? :P | 16:52 |
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| nibalizer | heh | 16:52 |
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| nibalizer | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481340/ | 16:53 |
| fungi | perhaps he did pip install requests[security] (after preinstalling distro packages of lots of c headers) | 16:53 |
| mordred | well, he should always install requests[security] | 16:54 |
| mordred | if he wants secure connections | 16:54 |
| clarkb | huh there are insecure platform warnings | 16:54 |
| mordred | nope. he did not | 16:54 |
| mordred | he's getting the insecure platform warnings | 16:54 |
| clarkb | maybe python actually does check some things but not others | 16:54 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: the final line | 16:54 |
| clarkb | not that insecure ! | 16:55 |
| mordred | :) | 16:55 |
| mordred | so - install requests[security] | 16:55 |
| nibalizer | error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed | 16:55 |
| nibalizer | this is something I pip install? | 16:55 |
| mordred | yup | 16:55 |
| nibalizer | with the brackets | 16:55 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: in theory python isn't supposed to care about that hence the insecure platform warnings | 16:55 |
| nibalizer | ? | 16:55 |
| mordred | yup | 16:56 |
| clarkb | requests[security] intsalls bindings for requests that actually check things properly | 16:56 |
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| nibalizer | i have insufficient headers | 16:56 |
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| nibalizer | anyways not important right now | 16:56 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: what's in your venv? | 16:56 |
| mordred | because the things are on that node | 16:57 |
| mordred | and keystone catalog works for me without any warnings just raw on the box | 16:57 |
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| mordred | crinkle: what's the difference between the _member_ role and the user role? | 16:57 |
| nibalizer | i created the user role by following the kilo docs | 16:57 |
| nibalizer | is where that came from | 16:58 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: ok. so there's already a _member_ role which is, I believe created by the puppet | 16:58 |
| nibalizer | also bad news, i've booted two nodes, neither ping :( | 16:58 |
| mordred | nibalizer: doesn't seem we need it - the only role listed in nova's policy.json is admin | 16:59 |
| anteaya | good news you booted two nodes | 16:59 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: where ar eyou pinging from? | 16:59 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: they ping for me | 17:00 |
| clarkb | considering hte network setup there you may have to ping from not the cloud nodes | 17:00 |
| mordred | from not controller node | 17:00 |
| mordred | ping 15.184.53.3 | 17:00 |
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| crinkle | mordred: nibalizer ha yeah _member_ is a real thing and user is not | 17:00 |
| nibalizer | you can ping 15.184.53.8 ? | 17:00 |
| mordred | crinkle: awesome. I'm going to delete it | 17:00 |
| nibalizer | haha | 17:00 |
| mordred | nibalizer: no | 17:01 |
| timrc | yolanda: Heeey.. ;-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252094/ | 17:01 |
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| crinkle | btw i'm at a conference so i may be slow to respond | 17:01 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I don't see 15.184.53.8 in the nova list output for the admin user | 17:01 |
| mordred | I see | 17:01 |
| mordred | | 39790724-228d-43b7-a048-75daf37c04ca | test | ACTIVE | - | Running | provider-net=15.184.53.3 | | 17:01 |
| mordred | | 8e138786-bb85-41d2-8894-a4eda9516a4b | test | ACTIVE | - | Running | provider-net=15.184.53.5 | | 17:01 |
| nibalizer | i didn't create them as admin | 17:01 |
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| nibalizer | i made an infra user | 17:01 |
| mordred | awesome - what project? | 17:01 |
| nibalizer | infra | 17:01 |
| nibalizer | ill add _member_ as the mapping between infra and infra | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make the ironic-pxe_ipa-ipxe voting https://review.openstack.org/255382 | 17:02 |
| anteaya | crinkle: what conference? | 17:03 |
| crinkle | anteaya: the internal Tech Tour conference for hp | 17:04 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I think I'd actually like to make an infra domain | 17:04 |
| anteaya | crinkle: ah fun | 17:04 |
| anteaya | crinkle: hope you are having a good time | 17:05 |
| mordred | nibalizer: and make the infra project be in the infra domain | 17:05 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: largely because I think a test domain where we can test project creation/deletion would be nice | 17:05 |
| mordred | hrm | 17:05 |
| * mordred should write an ansible playbook to do this | 17:06 | |
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| mordred | notmorgan: is it possible for users to change their passwords via keystone api in v3? | 17:07 |
| nibalizer | mordred: eh? seems like you could do that against devstack | 17:07 |
| notmorgan | mordred: fairly certian so | 17:07 |
| mordred | notmorgan: cool | 17:07 |
| notmorgan | mordred: sec looking at to find the API | 17:08 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: my nodes do not network, halp! | 17:08 |
| mordred | nibalizer: where can I find the password for the infra user? | 17:08 |
| nibalizer | mordred: ~nibz/userrc | 17:08 |
| nibalizer | on the controller | 17:08 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: cool. | 17:08 |
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| crinkle | nibalizer: is this with the infra user? maybe need to acl some things | 17:08 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: yes | 17:09 |
| nibalizer | if it works for admin but not for user then that totally points to acl something mumble | 17:09 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: i can't really look at it right this second | 17:09 |
| clarkb | nova security-group-list or something | 17:09 |
| nibalizer | | d094313b-9f11-4507-be96-fed257885832 | testmachine2 | ACTIVE | - | Running | provider-net=15.184.53.9 | | 17:09 |
| nibalizer | but then the thing doesn't ping | 17:09 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: then nova security-group-update icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 17:09 |
| nibalizer | nova console-log indicates that the node things it has that ip | 17:09 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: yes likely security groups | 17:10 |
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| timrc | clarkb: I vaguely remember some documentation about current possibilities around multi-node testing with nodepool, but I can't remember where I saw that. It may be insufficient for what I'd like to demo at Blue Box but I was hoping maybe you could point me in the right direction? | 17:10 |
| nibalizer | oh i dind't thing security gorups were a thing with provider networks | 17:10 |
| nibalizer | rgr | 17:10 |
| mordred | nibalizer: they're orthogonal | 17:10 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: I think they are always a thing | 17:10 |
| clarkb | because ya .... | 17:10 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: ok no worries | 17:11 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: works? | 17:11 |
| * mordred wants to learn how to configure the default security group | 17:11 | |
| nibalizer | im super excite that there is a cloud | 17:11 |
| notmorgan | mordred: so we have UserV3 controller which has change_password | 17:11 |
| timrc | We have a project called ursula that's responsible for deploying clouds. Whenever a change is made we provision some nodes and install a cloud using trunk+commit and then run some integration tests. I'd like to see if we can use nodepool for the provisioning part. | 17:11 |
| mordred | notmorgan: woot | 17:11 |
| clarkb | timrc: nodepool can spin up sets of nodes with one being primary and attached ot jenkins. All nodes are told who the others are via files in /etc/nodepool | 17:11 |
| nibalizer | crinkle: im gonna try clarks things | 17:11 |
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| notmorgan | mordred: trying to find the route | 17:11 |
| crinkle | i set icmp/ssh for the default security group, i didn't realize there were per-user differences | 17:11 |
| mordred | nibalizer: anywho - I also want to create an infra domain largely because we have a v3 cloud and I'd like to dtrt wrt domains | 17:11 |
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| clarkb | timrc: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/nodepool/scripts.html#ready-script details on that info there | 17:11 |
| timrc | clarkb: Hm that might actually be enough. | 17:11 |
| mordred | notmorgan: it's cool - if it's a thing, that menas I can find it | 17:12 |
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| notmorgan | mordred: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/api/v3/identity-api-v3.html#change-user-password | 17:12 |
| nibalizer | mordred: ya you can change things if you wish, note that this is a kilo cloud | 17:12 |
| clarkb | timrc: I would be very surprised if this doesn't work for that use case | 17:12 |
| mordred | nibalizer: lemme cook up a quick playbook that describes what I think we should do | 17:12 |
| notmorgan | mordred: not sure if we have it in ksc | 17:12 |
| clarkb | timrc: since its basically identical to how we test upstream | 17:12 |
| mordred | notmorgan: user password set is in osc | 17:12 |
| mordred | notmorgan: I just wasn't user if a user could use it for themselves | 17:12 |
| notmorgan | mordred: i mean as the lib | 17:12 |
| mordred | and hadn't gotten to creating a user so I could test it | 17:12 |
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| clarkb | nibalizer: security groups are applied on hypervisor iptables so its always there | 17:14 |
| notmorgan | mordred: so ksc has it as part of the lib, so it should all work. | 17:14 |
| mordred | notmorgan: awesome | 17:14 |
| notmorgan | provided osc has the command | 17:14 |
| mordred | it does | 17:14 |
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| mordred | nibalizer, crinkle: I have made an adminrcv3 in /root | 17:14 |
| mordred | which has the v3 version of the rc file | 17:14 |
| timrc | clarkb: Sounds exactly like what we need. | 17:14 |
| crinkle | mordred: cool | 17:15 |
| fungi | i put controller00.hpuswest.ic.o.o in dns for now | 17:15 |
| mordred | woot | 17:15 |
| crinkle | fungi: thank you, that is super helpful | 17:15 |
| clarkb | timrc: the way we use it is have devstack-gate write out an ansible inventory file with that data | 17:15 |
| zaro | morning | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new projects for the OSA role break out https://review.openstack.org/255369 | 17:16 |
| clarkb | timrc: then its ansible primary dosomething and ansible subnodes dosomethingelse and ansible all otherthing | 17:16 |
| clarkb | timrc: because its ssh based it maps really well | 17:16 |
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| mordred | neat! | 17:16 |
| * mordred is enjoying playing with our cloud API | 17:16 | |
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| fungi | mordred: it's even better because you know that any bug you find, you can just fix without needing to explain your reasons to teh provider | 17:17 |
| mordred | fungi: yup! | 17:17 |
| mordred | fungi: well, I have to convince YOU PEOPLE | 17:17 |
| crinkle | please include reasons in commit messages :P | 17:18 |
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| * fungi is easily convinced | 17:18 | |
| fungi | indeed | 17:18 |
| yolanda | hi, can i have some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/254289 ? that's to start dealiing with apt-get autoremove in our servers | 17:18 |
| clarkb | yolanda: I wouldn't even parameterize it | 17:19 |
| clarkb | yolanda: we know that if you don't set it to true bad things happen | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | yolanda: also is there a change for the autoclean of the cache? | 17:19 |
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| mordred | crinkle: so ... | 17:19 |
| yolanda | clarkb not yet | 17:19 |
| mordred | crinkle: the patch to disable ec2 and novav3 | 17:19 |
| mordred | crinkle: seems to have had an odd effect on the catalog | 17:20 |
| yolanda | first wanted to show that. About paremeterizing, as it's no system-config, but the puppet module i think we shall consider all uses cases | 17:20 |
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| yolanda | for example in downstream we wouldn't want unattended autoremoves | 17:20 |
| clarkb | yolanda: I mean | 17:20 |
| mordred | crinkle: the services still show in the catalog, but they show with urls like: http://127.0.0.1:8773/services/Cloud | 17:20 |
| clarkb | yolanda: its broken when set to false right? | 17:20 |
| clarkb | yolanda: bceause you run out of inodes | 17:20 |
| mordred | crinkle: which makes me think that there is a default value in puppet somewhere that disabling things is causing to not fully disable | 17:20 |
| timrc | clarkb: I mean... that's pretty much what we do. We provision hosts, write a hosts file, deploy cloud to them, run some tests. So I could see nodepool factoring out the provisioning piece and hopefully eliminating some of the expense of setup by having ready nodes. | 17:21 |
| crinkle | mordred: i expected the first part, the second part is sorta strange | 17:21 |
| yolanda | clarkb, unless you schedule some periodical cleanups for example | 17:21 |
| clarkb | yolanda: if its not broken lets not bother with it | 17:21 |
| timrc | deploy cloud to them with the ansible* | 17:21 |
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| clarkb | yolanda: this is the periodic cleanup | 17:21 |
| crinkle | mordred: we'll need to delete the endpoints/services by hand | 17:21 |
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| clarkb | yolanda: this is what that is for | 17:21 |
| crinkle | mordred: then puppet shouldn't put it back weird | 17:21 |
| yolanda | clarkb, i know. I'm trying to expose some downstream case | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Allow Gerrit to use 4 threads for indexing changes. https://review.openstack.org/241736 | 17:21 |
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| yolanda | in our nodes we don't want that to be executed automatically, for x reasons | 17:21 |
| clarkb | yolanda: what is the use case to set that to false if we know your server will break when set to false? | 17:21 |
| mordred | crinkle: I'm going to disable them by hand now and see what happens next puppet | 17:22 |
| yolanda | but we execute that cleanup manually | 17:22 |
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| yolanda | clarkb, it won't break if you monitor disk space and do a manual cleanup when needed | 17:22 |
| yolanda | i'd like to leave it open to parameterize, if you prefer we can change the defaults to true | 17:22 |
| clarkb | yolanda: and doing it manually when it can be done automatially isn't a bug? | 17:22 |
| yolanda | clarkb well, i can tell you that our use case downstream is to don't do updates or autoremoves automatically, for certain servers | 17:23 |
| yolanda | it can be a bug but is some use case we hit | 17:24 |
| mordred | crinkle: there is another weird - which is not a problem but I mention purely in case is should be an improvement to the puppet modules | 17:24 |
| clarkb | yolanda: for those servers you should not use the unattended updates module then | 17:24 |
| clarkb | yolanda: because this is why the module exists to do updates automatically | 17:24 |
| mordred | crinkle: we now have 4 services, for them, glance shows internal of http://127.0.0.1:9292 and public of https://controller00.hpuswest.ic.openstack.org:9292 | 17:24 |
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| sdague | clarkb: I just had another one of those connection failed blips | 17:24 |
| zaro | yolanda, crinkle : help? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255050/ don't understand why that's not working. | 17:25 |
| mordred | crinkle: oh - wait, I was going to give you that backwards | 17:25 |
| sdague | was there an es restart or something? | 17:25 |
| clarkb | sdague: no, just deleted indexes again | 17:25 |
| mordred | crinkle: non-keystone services show 127.0.0.1 in their internal url | 17:25 |
| clarkb | but let me see if rax restarted a node | 17:25 |
| yolanda | clarkb ok i'll hardcode it and we'll revisit our setup | 17:25 |
| sdague | in the last 3 minutes? | 17:25 |
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| mordred | crinkle: but keystone's internal is https://controller00.hpuswest.ic.openstack.org:5000/v2.0 | 17:25 |
| clarkb | sdague: status is green | 17:25 |
| sdague | I seriously want to kick someone at ES in the knees for this | 17:26 |
| crinkle | mordred: i think we're setting public and admin and not internal, so it defaults to http/localhost | 17:26 |
| clarkb | and there are 6 data nodes so nothing went away | 17:26 |
| crinkle | mordred: for no particular reason, i think that was just how SpamapS set it in his original manifests | 17:26 |
| mordred | crinkle: ok. so something is setting internal for keystone to something else as a default then | 17:26 |
| crinkle | mordred: easy to set it | 17:26 |
| sdague | because of their caching semantics all you need is 1 second of network failure, then you are boned until you dump cache and restart your browser | 17:26 |
| mordred | crinkle: kk. we don't need the internal url for any purpose | 17:26 |
| mordred | crinkle: I was mostly reporting in case there was a bug for people who do | 17:26 |
| clarkb | yolanda: I think that if you do not want automated updates the proper approach is to not use the module that configures automated updates | 17:26 |
| clarkb | yolanda: the module should however properly setup updates such that they do not break the server | 17:27 |
| clarkb | yolanda: that way people that do want automated updates get them in a safe manner | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | sdague: its not a great workaround but maybe use private browsing mode in $browser to work around it for now? | 17:27 |
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| mordred | clarkb: otoh - https://controller00.hpuswest.ic.openstack.org:5000/v2.0 is wrong for keystone as I'm listing that using v3 - so we should have the v3 endpoints in the v3 catalog | 17:28 |
| mordred | gah | 17:28 |
| mordred | sorry clarkb | 17:28 |
| mordred | crinkle: ^^ | 17:28 |
| fungi | oh, wow. we were flush with nodes stuck in delete for a while there according to the graph | 17:28 |
| mordred | notmorgan: when did the version-less endpoint show up in keystone? | 17:28 |
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| yolanda | clarkb, we got some breakages in the past , even using that, specially with kernel upgrades. But we always hit on an specific use case of baremetal servers executing lo-level testing | 17:29 |
| mordred | notmorgan: was it available in kilo? or not until liberty? | 17:29 |
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| crinkle | mordred: ah that's a bug | 17:29 |
| notmorgan | i'd need to ask jamielennox|away | 17:29 |
| clarkb | yolanda: then you shouldn't use the automated updates puppet module | 17:29 |
| crinkle | mordred: the reason keystone is different from the rest is http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/puppet-keystone/tree/manifests/endpoint.pp#n14 | 17:29 |
| crinkle | mordred: just inconsistency in the module | 17:29 |
| mordred | crinkle: cool | 17:29 |
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| mordred | also, looks like the versioned endpoint didn't change until liberty | 17:30 |
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| notmorgan | but yeah liberty is likely where that changed | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Dong Ma proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Fixed create_node() Error https://review.openstack.org/254644 | 17:30 |
| mordred | k. so we can't do that until we're liberty | 17:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for grenade bug 1524418 https://review.openstack.org/255397 | 17:33 |
| openstack | bug 1524418 in oslo.messaging "gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode fails with "AttributeError: 'LocalManager' object has no attribute 'l3driver'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1524418 | 17:33 |
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| crinkle | mordred: there's an ugly bug in the keystone module for specifying the version, we should be able to make it unversioned but someone didn't understand undef http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/puppet-keystone/tree/manifests/endpoint.pp#n41 | 17:41 |
| crinkle | mordred: i'll work on it later today | 17:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for grenade bug 1524418 https://review.openstack.org/255397 | 17:41 |
| openstack | bug 1524418 in oslo.messaging "gate-grenade-dsvm-multinode fails with "AttributeError: 'LocalManager' object has no attribute 'l3driver'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1524418 | 17:41 |
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| mordred | crinkle: neat! | 17:43 |
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| mordred | crinkle: well, we don't have unversioned keystone auth url until we upgrade to liberty anyway | 17:43 |
| mordred | crinkle: however, we do need to set /v2.0 in the v2 catalog entries and /v3.0 in the v3 catalog entries | 17:44 |
| mordred | because that's TRT | 17:44 |
| mordred | notmorgan: yes? ^^ | 17:44 |
| fungi | need to hop over to the next island for a travel vaccine booster. should be back in a couple hours | 17:44 |
| notmorgan | openstack: i ... think so | 17:45 |
| anteaya | fungi: enjoy | 17:45 |
| notmorgan | mordred: ^ | 17:45 |
| crinkle | mordred: it doesn't seem like the keystone module wants to let you set both | 17:45 |
| mordred | crinkle: that might be a bug in the keystone module | 17:45 |
| mordred | crinkle: HOWEVER | 17:45 |
| mordred | crinkle: just setting unversioned for v3 for liberty is a thing anyway | 17:45 |
| mordred | crinkle: so we should not fix that bug | 17:45 |
| mordred | crinkle: it seems like the kilo perspective in the modules is "let's deal with v3 starting with liberty" anyway | 17:46 |
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| crinkle | mordred: yeah i think so | 17:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1524418 with root cause https://review.openstack.org/255402 | 17:49 |
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| mordred | infra-root, crinkle: the openstack command line client and client libs on controller00 are super old - I don't recommend spending much time with them | 17:53 |
| mordred | rather, I recommend doing most things related to openstack APIs from your own machine | 17:54 |
| crinkle | "super old" == kilo? | 17:54 |
| mordred | yes | 17:54 |
| mordred | python-openstackclient from kilo is hella suck | 17:54 |
| crinkle | ya upgrading to liberty can be a priority | 17:55 |
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| stevemar | mordred: ja, i think that's just after 1.0.0 | 17:55 |
| mordred | we also won't be able to use shade or the openstack ansible modules on that host | 17:55 |
| mordred | because the client lib versions will be too old | 17:55 |
| mordred | however, we don't have to | 17:55 |
| mordred | as we can run ansible playbooks on puppetmaster pointed at that cloud for anything we might want to playbook | 17:56 |
| mordred | stevemar: I was cursing about things about it - but then normorgan showed me his output and I realized we were just running old version | 17:57 |
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| mordred | stevemar: however, openstack project list --long should show domain name either instead of or in addtion to domain id | 17:58 |
| mordred | stevemar: because: | 17:58 |
| mordred | | 228a38069ea74e1d9b3f16ef86a74614 | infra | fb7965423257443ab31844c20a92faa7 | | True | | 17:58 |
| mordred | | 66625c58ad43409d867e4d203b60c67d | infra | default | OpenStack Infra | True | | 17:58 |
| mordred | stevemar: is not terribly helpful | 17:58 |
| dtroyer | mordred: ++ | 17:58 |
| dtroyer | do you have a preference? | 17:59 |
| dtroyer | also, -c helps | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1524418, remove job restriction https://review.openstack.org/255402 | 17:59 |
| mordred | dtroyer: honestly, I _personally_ would like to just see name | 17:59 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: but I could totally understanding keeping id and just adding name for compat reasons | 17:59 |
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| stevemar | mordred: dtroyer we would have to call list_domains() and cache the resultant list, and do a lookup to replace domain id/name | 17:59 |
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| dtroyer | cool, me too. this is one area where client caching would be helpful, otherwise the lcient gets to resolve those in many cases | 18:00 |
| mordred | yah | 18:00 |
| stevemar | we do this with images and volumes today anyway | 18:00 |
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| dtroyer | I don't mind doing the work if it's optional (as in —long) but I wasn't sure what the user preference was other than myself. | 18:01 |
| mordred | dtroyer: remind me to make you some trial ballon patches for being able to consume the cache config stuff we've got in occ | 18:01 |
| mordred | dtroyer: well, I'm currently developing new preferences | 18:01 |
| mordred | dtroyer: becaues I just got a brand new cloud delivered that I'm an admin on | 18:01 |
| mordred | dtroyer: so I'm using these commands in anger now :) | 18:01 |
| dtroyer | re occ…osc is soooo far behind on that | 18:01 |
| dtroyer | oh, nice! | 18:02 |
| mordred | yah - I've got like 50 patches I need to write you - | 18:02 |
| dtroyer | That drove a set of decisions I made in OSC too after arriving at $FORMER_DAY_JOB | 18:02 |
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| mordred | yup | 18:02 |
| mordred | anger is a great motivator to reduce anger | 18:02 |
| dtroyer | nothing like real-world use cases ;) | 18:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for OWASP Dependency-Check Plugin https://review.openstack.org/179604 | 18:02 |
| mordred | dtroyer: I was about ot explode about how openstack project list --help just showed me the entire command list | 18:03 |
| mordred | dtroyer: but you've alreayd fixed that :) | 18:03 |
| dtroyer | I have an asbestos suit for help discussions | 18:03 |
| dtroyer | nobody likes it, including me | 18:03 |
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| mordred | dtroyer: :) | 18:04 |
| mordred | dtroyer: what's the osc env var equiv for --insecure? | 18:04 |
| dtroyer | there isn't one, intentionally | 18:04 |
| mordred | awesome | 18:04 |
| crinkle | mordred: i can give you the CA that's set up | 18:04 |
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| mordred | crinkle: sweet! please do | 18:05 |
| mordred | crinkle: or I can fetch it if you give me the patch | 18:05 |
| mordred | path | 18:05 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: mordred hey! help is cleaned up nicely now :P | 18:05 |
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| dtroyer | stevemar: I'll give you 'better than before', sure | 18:05 |
| mordred | dtroyer, stevemar, notmorgan: BTW... I have OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3 | 18:06 |
| mordred | set | 18:06 |
| mordred | and I'm getting | 18:06 |
| mordred | Discovering versions from the identity service failed when creating the password plugin. Attempting to determine version from URL. | 18:06 |
| notmorgan | i've gotten that in a lot of cases | 18:06 |
| mordred | I think I would like to describe that as a bug | 18:06 |
| dtroyer | I've slept since I look at this, but is that from auth or from the CRUD call? | 18:06 |
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| mordred | since we have explicitly requested a version with OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION=3 | 18:07 |
| notmorgan | dtroyer: auth call iirc | 18:07 |
| notmorgan | dtroyer: because it's in the auth plugin | 18:07 |
| mordred | yeah - this is a cloud that does not have version discovery | 18:07 |
| dtroyer | and I don't think auth pays attention to that | 18:07 |
| mordred | oh - because that's only talking about crud api? | 18:07 |
| dtroyer | so yeah, maybe a bug with some ideas on precedence | 18:07 |
| lifeless | anteaya: will comment on the review | 18:08 |
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| dtroyer | mordred: right, I don't think auth is hooked up to look at that | 18:08 |
| mordred | perhaps we need to introduce an OS_AUTH_API_VERSION variable that you can set to be explicit about that? | 18:08 |
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| lifeless | samueldmq: thanks, np | 18:08 |
| dtroyer | not sure I have a strong opinion on it, but that would be a bit of a change for us | 18:08 |
| mordred | or - lemme try something | 18:08 |
| samueldmq | lifeless: :) | 18:08 |
| anteaya | lifeless: thank you | 18:08 |
| mordred | k | 18:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean Dague proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1524418 https://review.openstack.org/255402 | 18:09 |
| mordred | if I set OS_AUTH_TYPE=v3password, that goes away | 18:09 |
| mordred | so there _IS_ a way to silence it | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Remove httpretty from requirements https://review.openstack.org/183745 | 18:09 |
| notmorgan | mordred: so yeah this is Password plugin being bad :( | 18:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new projects for the OSA role break out https://review.openstack.org/255369 | 18:10 |
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| mordred | notmorgan: well, no, I think it's correct - OS_IDENTITY_API_VERSION is different than auth version or auth plugin | 18:11 |
| dtroyer | password plugin implies doing discovery | 18:11 |
| mordred | yah | 18:11 |
| clarkb | there is a nova change that has passed all three dibtest jobs in expreimental | 18:11 |
| notmorgan | mordred: again thi is really a bad error [as we discussed before] | 18:11 |
| clarkb | I think we can maybe go ahead switching to ubuntu trusty diskimage on the devstack-trusty label | 18:12 |
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| clarkb | infra-root ^ | 18:12 |
| notmorgan | so password+discovery needs a little work. | 18:12 |
| greghaynes | doit | 18:12 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: So was the thing you hit yesterday a red herring? | 18:12 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ya | 18:12 |
| greghaynes | awesome | 18:12 |
| clarkb | seems to be | 18:12 |
| greghaynes | That was working on all experimental for me many months ago, so that is a good sign | 18:12 |
| stevemar | mordred: oh i ran into that | 18:12 |
| stevemar | mordred: i think it's a stale clouds.yaml in ~/.config/openstack ... | 18:13 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 18:13 |
| mordred | stevemar: nah - it's the discover thing | 18:13 |
| stevemar | mordred: ah | 18:13 |
| anteaya | clarkb: yay | 18:13 |
| stevemar | mordred: different error then, i was getting this one: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/84825/glance-upload_image-fails-in-latest-devstack/ | 18:14 |
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| stevemar | "Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin" | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make the ironic-pxe_ipa-ipxe voting https://review.openstack.org/255382 | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add cloudbees folder creation support https://review.openstack.org/189697 | 18:16 |
| lifeless | sdague: I presume the multinode job actually tests more codepaths ? | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Update the test config with a function https://review.openstack.org/255413 | 18:16 |
| lifeless | sdague: (that might impact libraries) | 18:16 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Merge configurations with multiple layout files https://review.openstack.org/255414 | 18:16 |
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| sdague | lifeless: I think it does | 18:17 |
| mordred | stevemar: yah - that's a different one | 18:18 |
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| sdague | requirements peeps - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254911 we need that blacklist, the grenade jobs are at 50% failure now until it's landed | 18:18 |
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| mordred | sdague: done | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Dawid Malinowski proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for OWASP Dependency-Check Plugin https://review.openstack.org/179604 | 18:20 |
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| sdague | a promote would be in order as well, we're just fail grinding in the gate right now with grenades failure rate | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Dreyer proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: builders: fix mavenName sorting with py35 https://review.openstack.org/252487 | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ken Dreyer proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: publishers: iterate over copy of checkstyle data https://review.openstack.org/252478 | 18:21 |
| sdague | http://tinyurl.com/hkmow4e | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack-infra/project-config: make gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full job voting https://review.openstack.org/212058 | 18:21 |
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| jeblair | sdague: i keep trying to read that tinyurl as a word | 18:25 |
| sdague | :) | 18:25 |
| sdague | have I snow crashed you yet? | 18:26 |
| anteaya | know-moo | 18:26 |
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| sigmavirus24 | pleia2: I might ping you about https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Running_hound_on_Infra in the future since I know nothing about puppet :) | 18:29 |
| * sigmavirus24 does know ruby though | 18:29 | |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: we're a good match then :) | 18:29 |
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| jeblair | sdague: you want an enqueue+promote of 254911 ? | 18:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | pleia2: awesome. Idk when I'll have time for it, but I think it would be awesome to work on | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: taron is the one who did most of the work, so they could be of assistance too | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: oh, it's already done :\ | 18:30 |
| jeblair | sdague: (it did fail the resolver job, i'm assuming that's still generally broken?) | 18:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | pleia2: oh well | 18:30 |
| sigmavirus24 | I'm so sad I have less work to do ;) | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: codesearch.openstack.org, it was taron's outreachy project over the summer | 18:30 |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: are you an outreachy student? | 18:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: update 1524418 https://review.openstack.org/255402 | 18:31 |
| clarkb | I am about to try logstash2.0ing logstash-worker20 | 18:31 |
| jeblair | pleia2: oh should we update the status on that wiki page? | 18:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | pleia2: nope. :) | 18:31 |
| sigmavirus24 | Oh, that's for outreachy mentorship. Got it. I found that link via lbragstad | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: apparently :) | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: what is lbragstad? | 18:32 |
| pleia2 | I've updated that wiki page anyway | 18:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | pleia2: lbragstad is Lance, Keystone Core | 18:33 |
| sigmavirus24 | I was chatting about something like github.livegrep.com for OpenStack and he found that | 18:33 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: that's so satisfying | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | sigmavirus24: oh, a person :) gotcha, I won't update him | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 18:34 |
| sigmavirus24 | :D | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | lbragstad o/ | 18:34 |
| anteaya | lbragstad: plays guitar | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | i'm actually a bot | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 18:34 |
| jeblair | http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=lbragstad | 18:34 |
| stevemar | pleia2: i dunno, lbragstad could use an update or two | 18:34 |
| jeblair | look it works ^ :) | 18:34 |
| anteaya | lbragstad: that plays guitar | 18:34 |
| pleia2 | I'll remove the "internship idea" category too, so it stops showing up as an idea (since it's a real thing now) | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | stevemar i'm at least 3 releases behind | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | anteaya :) not as well as ayoung plays the sax | 18:35 |
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| anteaya | nevar as well as ayoung plays sax | 18:35 |
| anteaya | but you still do play guitar | 18:35 |
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| clarkb | infra-root FYI, if you are going to be puppet applying system-config changes make sure you rebase them on master otherwise the puppet config gets broken | 18:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 18:37 |
| sdague | jeblair: I'm assuming that is generally broken | 18:38 |
| clarkb | I may have discovered this the hard way :) to fix scroll back to your puppet conf diff and undo the changes then rebase and reapply | 18:39 |
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| mtreinish | jeblair: heh, searching for me I found something fun: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/activity-board/tree/reports/2015-q3/latex/data/irc_top_senders.csv | 18:41 |
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| mordred | clarkb: excellent | 18:41 |
| mtreinish | I never realized I was so talkative | 18:41 |
| mordred | mtreinish: THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TALK MORE THAN ME????? | 18:42 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: searching for me, sounds like a play I know | 18:42 |
| mtreinish | mordred: hah, both clarkb and openstack talk more than you :) | 18:43 |
| mgagne | I'm more impressed by those results: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=TODO&i=nope&files=&repos= | 18:43 |
| mordred | however - I'm impressed by the humans who talk more than openstack | 18:43 |
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| mordred | mgagne: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=TODO\%28mordred\%29&i=nope&files=&repos= | 18:44 |
| mgagne | or http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=FIXME&i=nope&files=&repos= | 18:44 |
| mordred | mgagne: I'm pleased that is as smal as it is! | 18:44 |
| anteaya | the activity board stats are old | 18:44 |
| anteaya | they haven't been updated as stackalytics is the new hotness | 18:44 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: it says q3 2015 | 18:44 |
| anteaya | except I don't think stackalytics tracks irc chattiness | 18:44 |
| mtreinish | it doesn't | 18:45 |
| clarkb | ok logstash-worker20 is running logstash2.0 | 18:45 |
| clarkb | need one small change to the puppet | 18:45 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: let's see come jan 1 then if it gives us a q4 | 18:45 |
| mordred | SergeyLukjanov: I forget, who do we send stackalytics feature requests to? | 18:45 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: it's such a useful metric, you should file a crtitical bug against stackalytics to include irc tracking | 18:45 |
| mordred | ++ | 18:46 |
| anteaya | I should? | 18:46 |
| anteaya | I guess I can | 18:46 |
| mordred | nibalizer: you still poking at things? | 18:46 |
| mordred | nibalizer: on the infra cloud? | 18:46 |
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| mordred | nibalizer: if you have a down period, I'd like to delete and re-create the infra project | 18:47 |
| mordred | nibalizer: HOWEVER | 18:47 |
| mordred | actually | 18:47 |
| mordred | infra-root: FYI - deleting a project in a cloud does not delete resources owned by that project. one must first delete the resources owned by the project | 18:48 |
| jeblair | mordred: fascinating! | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Change logstash multiline stream identity https://review.openstack.org/190345 | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Logstash 2.0 compat ES output rule https://review.openstack.org/247714 | 18:48 |
| mordred | jeblair: you know how clouds are a loose confederation of services? this is one of the offshoots - telling keystone to delete the project only deletes it from keystone - it does not tell any of the other projects to do anything | 18:49 |
| pleia2 | heh | 18:49 |
| mtreinish | mordred: that's been a huge pain point for a long time... | 18:49 |
| mordred | mtreinish: it is clearly a design problem | 18:49 |
| jeblair | mordred: i'm guessing every cloud deployer writes the same "for $service in $services; delete project;" script? | 18:49 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm guessing so - the fun part is that I am not aware of a "nova delete-project-stuff" ... | 18:50 |
| jeblair | is there something in the ops tools repo, i wonder? | 18:50 |
| mordred | sdague: does nova have such a command? | 18:50 |
| mtreinish | mordred, jeblair: there are things for it: https://github.com/openstack/ospurge | 18:50 |
| mtreinish | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/cmd/cleanup.py | 18:50 |
| mordred | aha! | 18:50 |
| mtreinish | those are the 2 I know about | 18:50 |
| sdague | mordred: no | 18:50 |
| jeblair | it's a whole project! | 18:50 |
| mtreinish | the tempest one is for the tempest created things though | 18:50 |
| sdague | it came up at summit | 18:50 |
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| sdague | and our suggestion is that it becomes an osc command | 18:50 |
| mtreinish | I think rally was working on something similar | 18:50 |
| mordred | neat | 18:51 |
| mordred | I agree | 18:51 |
| mordred | it should be an osc command | 18:51 |
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| mordred | it should not be in rally | 18:51 |
| jeblair | mordred: ospurge rather looks like it does what you want | 18:51 |
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| mordred | yup | 18:51 |
| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247756/ and its depends on are ready for review now | 18:51 |
| mordred | I'm going to try it | 18:51 |
| stevemar | thats a snazzy project | 18:51 |
| anteaya | okay so stackalytics has a launchpad page for bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/stackalytics and storyboard has two stories: one to create it: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000274 and one to add ilya to the stackalytics-core group: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/1199266 | 18:51 |
| sdague | yeh, we were nudging the ospurge folks to show up to osc and get it in | 18:51 |
| anteaya | fungi: so stackalytcs bug, launchpad or storyboard? | 18:51 |
| mordred | as soon as nibalizer acks or nacks that that I can delete his infra project | 18:52 |
| mordred | I will try it | 18:52 |
| stevemar | sdague: i'd be happy to review it :) | 18:52 |
| stevemar | had no idea it existed ! | 18:52 |
| sdague | stevemar: yeh, I don't remember who those folks were now | 18:52 |
| sdague | they showed up in the nova sessions and wanted it part of nova | 18:52 |
| sdague | or more importantly, have nova auto delete stuff when a project is deleted | 18:53 |
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| sdague | but people typically want to actually archive stuff for accountability later | 18:53 |
| sdague | so auto doing that seems terrible | 18:53 |
| clarkb | keystone rm-user --i-really-mean-it | 18:54 |
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| mordred | s/user/project/ | 18:54 |
| mordred | s/keystone/openstack/ | 18:54 |
| mordred | but yeah | 18:54 |
| mordred | openstack project delete --purge perhaps | 18:54 |
| sdague | yeh, doing it in osc, and having osc go through services in a sane order is fine | 18:54 |
| mordred | or maybe, given how osc is structured - openstack project purge | 18:55 |
| sdague | but seriously, people fat finger this often enough that we've got an undelete window in nova for computes | 18:55 |
| clarkb | wat | 18:55 |
| mordred | sdague: people ... what? | 18:55 |
| clarkb | I know someone who did that | 18:55 |
| clarkb | but I don't think we kne wabout an undelete feature | 18:56 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: transition to logstash2.0 is slightly painful in that there is no forward and backward compatible config but other than that its just move log processors over ot their own thing, remove logstash stuff so that package can apply it on its own, run puppet | 18:57 |
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| mordred | nibalizer is ignoring me | 18:57 |
| * mordred pokes nibalizer | 18:57 | |
| * mordred pokes nibalizer again | 18:57 | |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: steps documented in comnments on the change | 18:57 |
| * mordred hands nibalizer an annoying bunny rabbit who pokes nibalizer and then eats nibalizer's salad | 18:58 | |
| pleia2 | they also ruin your furniture | 18:58 |
| mordred | pleia2: or quite literally any object you place them on | 18:58 |
| ayoung | I don't care how well you guys play./ anteaya lbragstad I want a Jam session in Austin | 18:59 |
| mordred | pleia2: but they're cute and cuddly | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | fluffy++ | 18:59 |
| clarkb | oh so they are like children | 18:59 |
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| anteaya | ayoung: I'll partcipate if lbragstad will | 18:59 |
| sdague | clarkb: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/b5890b3c36613919338f83c4f59225f424c99cb1/nova/compute/api.py#L1914 | 18:59 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ^ check it out | 18:59 |
| sdague | clarkb: yeh, there is a restore action | 18:59 |
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| ayoung | anteaya, participate regardless. | 19:00 |
| lbragstad | ayoung anteaya :) | 19:00 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. they are like beakless chickens that do not lay eggs | 19:00 |
| mordred | clarkb: in all other respects, they are exactly like chickens | 19:00 |
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| sdague | I can't find the soft_delete timeout atm, but it's in there, and I think it was set to 5m by default or something | 19:00 |
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| wendar | Since release status page status.openstack.org/release/ is no longer updated, is there a decent Launchpad query to run for Mitaka series? | 19:01 |
| wendar | (Don't need it to be authoritative, just informational.) | 19:01 |
| anteaya | I make no promises | 19:01 |
| anteaya | dhellmann ttx ^^ | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | wendar: I think the idea is to use that new tool, reno | 19:02 |
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| mordred | wendar: you may also want to go poking in #openstack-release | 19:03 |
| wendar | mordred: kk, I can join there too | 19:03 |
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| wendar | clarkb: I just need a list of blueprints for now | 19:04 |
| sdague | clarkb: there it is - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/b5890b3c36613919338f83c4f59225f424c99cb1/nova/compute/manager.py#L163 - I guess it's set to 0 by default, so deletes are permanent | 19:04 |
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| dhellmann | wendar: part of the shift we're making this cycle is to stop using launchpad at all for tracking contents of new releases, at least as a whole. It's up to project teams to decide if they want to keep targeting blueprints & bugs. | 19:05 |
| dhellmann | wendar : #openstack-release may be a quieter place to get into more detail | 19:05 |
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| wendar | dhellmann: aye, I know we're moving away from it, just have a short-term need for the info | 19:06 |
| wendar | One note for -infra before I relocate, it's probably worth removing the "Release" link from status.openstack.org header, since it's still pointing at Liberty info. | 19:07 |
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| pleia2 | or updating it to point to mitaka if it still makes sense | 19:08 |
| anteaya | wendar: ttx has a patch up for that | 19:08 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: ah, good | 19:08 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: hi | 19:09 |
| wendar | anteaya: for removal, or updating to mitaka? (I'm guessing removal, just a conversation sequence thing) | 19:09 |
| anteaya | removal | 19:09 |
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| wendar | anteaya: got it, makes sense | 19:09 |
| * anteaya puts phone down and looks | 19:09 | |
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| nibalizer | mordred: yes you can delete all my stuff | 19:10 |
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| anteaya | wendar: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254817/ | 19:10 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: did you determine if security groups were at fault? | 19:10 |
| clarkb | just note if things get deleted you will ahve to do it again | 19:10 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: didn't get very far in investigating | 19:10 |
| nibalizer | but i looked at the rules for the default secgroup and it looked like there weren't any | 19:11 |
| nibalizer | so possible | 19:11 |
| sdague | infra-root: can we get a promote of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254911/ | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: ah, yolanda makes a good point in there | 19:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Moats proposed openstack-infra/project-config: make gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-multinode-full job voting https://review.openstack.org/212058 | 19:11 |
| sdague | it should dramatically decrease failure rate, so stop burning so many nodes | 19:11 |
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| anteaya | pleia2: oh good, a good -1 is valuable | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | sdague, infra-root: i will promote 254911 | 19:12 |
| jeblair | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/PyYAML-3.10.egg-info' | 19:13 |
| jeblair | actually, i will start by figuring out what that's about ^ | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | there are a bunch of dangling symlinks in dist-packages for zuul deps | 19:15 |
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| jeblair | so, erm, i deleted them and ran pip install -U | 19:15 |
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| jeblair | sdague: done | 19:18 |
| mordred | nibalizer: :) | 19:18 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I will recreate and update your creds file when I'm done | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | So, I've managed to get diskimage-builder 1.4.0 into epel7 :) For the people wanting to run centos7! | 19:20 |
| pabelanger | well, it is in epel-testing ATM | 19:20 |
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| sdague | jeblair: thanks! | 19:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders can be run on their own https://review.openstack.org/232251 | 19:23 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: ^ does the builder run separately in devstack, let me know if that is what you had in mind | 19:23 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: I think you may have to enable_service nodepool-builder in devstack/settings too | 19:27 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders can be run on their own https://review.openstack.org/232251 | 19:28 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ^ cool | 19:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay_Clark proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Adding the meeting_id value to the meeting yaml file. https://review.openstack.org/255452 | 19:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-unattended_upgrades: Enable automatic cleanup https://review.openstack.org/254289 | 19:37 |
| yolanda | clarkb, i hardcoded the setting as we agreed ^ | 19:37 |
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| fungi | on my way home, i saw a car with the virginia license plate "ZUUL" | 19:38 |
| fungi | it's a sign | 19:38 |
| fungi | (obligatory ghostbusters quote) | 19:39 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:39 |
| anteaya | fungi: hope you had an enjoyable vacination | 19:40 |
| fungi | clarkb: i didn't know about the restore method, but i was aware that resources aren't automatically cleaned up. it's come up in security-relevant contexts before | 19:40 |
| fungi | anteaya: yes, having needles jabbed in me is always enjoyable | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | immunity \o/ | 19:41 |
| fungi | at least now i've completed the hep-a series, so my mom can stop worrying about me eating "local" food when i travel | 19:41 |
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| pleia2 | welcome to a lifetime of blood results telling you you have hep-a antibodies ("yes, I got the vaccine") | 19:42 |
| fungi | heh | 19:42 |
| ianw | hey infra-root, there was a good f23 build yesterday, but jobs are coming up as NOT_REGISTERED. if someone could look in the nodepool logs to tell me where it's at, that would be great | 19:43 |
| fungi | ianw: image successfully built but no confirmation that it was able to boot, i assume? | 19:44 |
| nibalizer | mordred: thank you | 19:44 |
| anteaya | the things we do to keep Mom happy | 19:45 |
| ianw | fungi: yeah / upload etc | 19:45 |
| ianw | SpamapS: i'm seeing failures : File "/opt/git/subunit2sql-env/lib/python2.7/site-packages/subunit2sql/write_subunit.py", line 86, in sql2subunit from prepare_tempest_testrepository.py ... know about this? | 19:46 |
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| mordred | fyi - for anyone reading along - I'm making a rather large patch to ospurge to get it to work | 19:46 |
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| SpamapS | ianw: That error doesn't give me a lot of context. | 19:46 |
| mtreinish | ianw: do you have the full stack trace? | 19:46 |
| mordred | because it turns out using python client libraries correctly is ... hard | 19:46 |
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| mordred | and the code is doing is wrong - and it doesn't work :) | 19:47 |
| SpamapS | mordred: ospurge + shade? | 19:47 |
| mordred | SpamapS: not even | 19:47 |
| mordred | SpamapS: I'm just replacing the incorrect calls to legacy client constructors rightnow | 19:47 |
| mordred | I don't want ot mess with changing semantics | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Update the test config with a function https://review.openstack.org/255413 | 19:47 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Merge configurations with multiple layout files https://review.openstack.org/255414 | 19:47 |
| ianw | mtreinish: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481367/ | 19:48 |
| fungi | ianw: i can confirm that nodepool image-list shows fedora-23 images less than a day old ready in all hpcloud and rax regions/networks | 19:48 |
| fungi | but nodepool list shows no nodes, even in building state | 19:49 |
| fungi | digging in the logs next | 19:49 |
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| fungi | ianw: no, wait, one just started building now | 19:49 |
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| fungi | presumably it will fail, and then i'll see what the logs say about it | 19:50 |
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| ianw | fungi: thanks | 19:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: you might want to nova show on it too since nova sometimes has more info than nodepool | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | (I wonder if nova would be open to fixing that) | 19:51 |
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| ianw | mtreinish: from my monitoring, seems like only fedora 23 hit this at build time today | 19:51 |
| mtreinish | ianw: looks like you found a legit bug in the write_subunit module. It was assuming there was always going to be run metadata for the runs it's pulling | 19:51 |
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| mtreinish | but whatever one it was trying to create a stream for didn't have any | 19:51 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ianw: nova still lists it in status BUILD | 19:52 |
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| fungi | progress 10 | 19:52 |
| mtreinish | ianw: and the metadata key isn't set unless it's present: https://github.com/openstack-infra/subunit2sql/blob/master/subunit2sql/db/api.py#L786-L791 | 19:52 |
| mtreinish | ianw: although if that's running against the infra subunit2sql db I'm not sure how you hit that condition | 19:53 |
| mtreinish | because everything should be populated with metadata | 19:53 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ianw: now nova says it's status ACTIVE | 19:53 |
| ianw | mtreinish: well, that's extracted from http://nodepool.openstack.org/image.log | 19:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: ianw: though nodepool still lists it as building | 19:53 |
| mtreinish | yeah, I figured that was the case, I'm just at a loss from how that happened | 19:54 |
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| fungi | clarkb: ianw: nova has ip addresses listed for the instance but nodepool does not | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | so that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255371/1 doesn't get forgotten I am going to approve shortly unless anyone else wants to review | 19:55 |
| clarkb | mriedem: ^ I responded to your comments | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | ianw: my only guess is that the prepare_testrepository script was racing against an insert | 19:55 |
| lifeless | mordred: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pbr/+bug/1524176 | 19:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524176 in PBR "H405 multi line docstring summary not separated with an empty line" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Luo Gangyi (luogangyi) | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | so it queried the db after the run was created but before the metadata was added | 19:55 |
| lifeless | mordred: how/why is easy-install happening in that gate job? | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | but that should be a really small window | 19:55 |
| lifeless | mordred: http://logs.openstack.org/40/253540/1/check/gate-gnocchi-pep8/2dee1ad/console.html#_2015-12-08_16_27_34_687 | 19:55 |
| lifeless | mtreinish: races usually are :) | 19:55 |
| mtreinish | ianw: anyway I can push a patch to make the write_subunit module more defensive. Unless you wanted to? :) | 19:56 |
| mtreinish | lifeless: heh, fair | 19:56 |
| clarkb | lifeless: ^F easy no results, where are you seeing easy install? | 19:56 |
| ianw | mtreinish: maybe you should, and i'll review it :) | 19:57 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: .eggs | 19:58 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: thats a gnocchi job, failing flake8 on pbr's code | 19:58 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: in an egg in .eggs, which is where easy-install puts its stuff for setup_requires | 19:58 |
| fungi | clarkb: ianw: attempts to ssh into the instance are timing out (tcpdump shows no syn+ack back from my syn to 22/tcp both for v4 and v6 addresses) | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: for setup_requires does anything but easy install service that? | 19:59 |
| lifeless | clarkb: which means that a compatible pbr version wasn't installed in the host environment | 19:59 |
| fungi | clarkb: ianw: also nodepool concurs... "Exception: Timeout waiting for ssh access" | 19:59 |
| fungi | clarkb: ianw: network configuration issue? iptables issue? | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: we don't install pbr like that | 19:59 |
| clarkb | lifeless: never have aiui | 19:59 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I thought we always did, we certainly do in devstack to avoid easy-install triggering | 19:59 |
| clarkb | but the reason this changed is mordred added an explicit setup.py sdist step to pep8 to make sure we can make sdists | 19:59 |
| clarkb | lifeless: nope we don | 20:00 |
| clarkb | t | 20:00 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: but tox does sdist for us ... | 20:00 |
| clarkb | lifeless: no it doesn't :) | 20:00 |
| clarkb | at least not in many/most/all projects | 20:00 |
| lifeless | clarkb: did we disable it? | 20:00 |
| fungi | tox calls pip which builds (and caches) wheels for us | 20:00 |
| clarkb | lifeless: most projects use setup.py develop equivalent | 20:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: I am going t oguess glean isn't working right on f23 systemd | 20:01 |
| fungi | pretty sure our tox invocations aren't creating an sdist indirectly though | 20:01 |
| ianw | fungi: all very possible ... can we get serial out of it? trying to debug no network on a system you can't see and don't have the image for is, well, kind of interesting :) | 20:01 |
| lifeless | clarkb: usedevelop = True? I didn't think that skipped tox's sdisting | 20:01 |
| clarkb | fungi: lifeless by default tox always makes an sdist then installs it then runs tests. This is apparently too slow for our users so we do the use develop thing | 20:01 |
| ianw | clarkb: my suspicion too... | 20:01 |
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| clarkb | lifeless: it does | 20:01 |
| clarkb | lifeless: well that plus the install command override iirc | 20:01 |
| fungi | ianw: someone will need time to manually attempt booting that image so that it won't get short in the head by nodepool so quickly | 20:01 |
| clarkb | so anyways I think the real fix here is to .gitignore .eggs | 20:02 |
| lifeless | clarkb: ack - https://testrun.org/tox/latest/example/general.html covers it | 20:03 |
| lifeless | anyhow, that explains it. | 20:03 |
| lifeless | we need to have pbr in the deps then for pep8 | 20:03 |
| lifeless | if its going to run sdist | 20:03 |
| clarkb | lifeless: except that doesn't fix it either right? | 20:03 |
| lifeless | the gnocchi pep8 doesn't have an sdist command that I can see | 20:03 |
| clarkb | since setup_requires happens before any other deps | 20:03 |
| clarkb | lifeless: right its in the job not the tox | 20:03 |
| clarkb | lifeless: so every pep8 job runs `python setup.py sdist ; tox` | 20:04 |
| lifeless | clarkb: depends on how its wired in | 20:04 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: ugh ok so yeah | 20:04 |
| clarkb | like I said the fix here is to ignore .eggs | 20:04 |
| lifeless | clarkb: we don't actually want to trigger easy install at all | 20:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Added new projects for the OSA role break out https://review.openstack.org/255369 | 20:04 |
| clarkb | lifeless: there is no way of avoiding that? | 20:05 |
| clarkb | lifeless: we have never done the thing you are descirbing | 20:05 |
| mordred | ugh | 20:05 |
| lifeless | clarkb: this should be virtualenv d; pip install -U pip wheel setuptools pbr; d/bin/python setup.py sdist; rm -r d | 20:05 |
| clarkb | and it hasn't broken on us as far as I can tell | 20:05 |
| mordred | we could make an sdist virtualenv | 20:05 |
| mordred | yeah | 20:05 |
| clarkb | lifeless: right but we have never ever ever ever done that | 20:05 |
| mordred | what lifeless just said | 20:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Handle test_runs without metadata in write_subunit https://review.openstack.org/255462 | 20:05 |
| clarkb | so this isn't a regression | 20:05 |
| mtreinish | ianw: ^^^ | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | the regression is gitignore .eggs and move on | 20:05 |
| mordred | well, we only added the sdist thing like a weeks ago | 20:05 |
| clarkb | if you want to reengineer how tox et al install stuff thats a separate problem | 20:05 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I've been told by mordred that infra have assiduously avoided easy-install since forever | 20:05 |
| mordred | nonono | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | mordred: yes but nothing else does what lifeless wants either | 20:05 |
| mordred | wait | 20:05 |
| lifeless | clarkb: but, I really don't care | 20:05 |
| mordred | we only need to do this | 20:06 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I've reported, I've other fires to fight, if you want to argue against mordred, do so. | 20:06 |
| mordred | for the sdist fail trigger check | 20:06 |
| mordred | we don't need to do it for the pep8 install itself | 20:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: I get that | 20:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: my point is more general in that we don't preinstall pbr anywhere else | 20:06 |
| mordred | right | 20:06 |
| clarkb | so doing it in this one case is silly | 20:06 |
| mordred | and becuase we use tox elsewhere | 20:06 |
| mordred | this thing isn't using tox | 20:06 |
| lifeless | clarkb: but we *do* in devstack | 20:06 |
| clarkb | lifeless: devstack is unrelated | 20:07 |
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| ianw | mtreinish: L62 ... if metadata"s" ? | 20:07 |
| mtreinish | ianw: oops, good catch :) | 20:08 |
| mtreinish | why did I add an 's' on that param? :) | 20:08 |
| clarkb | this only happens to work if people declare a runtime dep on pbr | 20:08 |
| clarkb | because tox preinstalls runtime deps | 20:08 |
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| clarkb | but it is "broken" everywhere that no runtime dep on pbr exists | 20:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Do the sdist check in a virtualenv https://review.openstack.org/255466 | 20:09 |
| mordred | no - it's broken because we added something | 20:09 |
| mordred | that triggeres easy_install | 20:09 |
| clarkb | ok yes we added athing | 20:09 |
| clarkb | but back up | 20:09 |
| clarkb | running setup.py is currently broken everywhere but devstack | 20:09 |
| clarkb | running tox is broken everywhere that doesn't have pbr in *requirements.txt | 20:10 |
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| clarkb | it seems odd we owuld focus on this one incidence and freak out when its been this way for eternity | 20:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/subunit2sql: Handle test_runs without metadata in write_subunit https://review.openstack.org/255462 | 20:10 |
| clarkb | either we fix it properly, or it isn't actually an issue and we gitignore .eggs | 20:10 |
| clarkb | and aiui there is no proper fix because of how setuptools works | 20:10 |
| mordred | clarkb: you just said two different things that do not interrelate that do not make sense to me | 20:11 |
| mordred | tox isn't going to be broken/fixed by gitignore | 20:11 |
| clarkb | mordred: yes it will be | 20:11 |
| mordred | tox cares about gitignore? | 20:11 |
| clarkb | because flake8 won't flake8 gitignored files | 20:11 |
| clarkb | so you can have whatver you want in .eggs and flake8 will not touch it | 20:11 |
| clarkb | this is the actual issue | 20:12 |
| clarkb | not that easy install ran | 20:12 |
| lifeless | so I've just been poking at things, and most of our jobs do this: | 20:12 |
| mordred | ok. so, that's one side of the thing ... but we do not support people running setup.py blah | 20:12 |
| lifeless | tox -e$venv python setup.py sdist | 20:12 |
| clarkb | lifeless: yes so that will only work in the case that pbr is an explicit runtime dep | 20:12 |
| lifeless | run-pep8.sh is the *exception* | 20:12 |
| clarkb | otherwise easy install will be used | 20:12 |
| clarkb | which is my point | 20:12 |
| mordred | lifeless: yes - I did not do in run-pep8.sh because I did not want to install nova's deps TWICE | 20:12 |
| clarkb | fixing this one case doesn't fix the actual problem | 20:12 |
| lifeless | mordred: remember that that only takes a few seconds | 20:13 |
| lifeless | mordred: because caching | 20:13 |
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| mordred | lifeless: no, we do not have a wheel mirror yet in the gate | 20:13 |
| lifeless | mordred: its local | 20:13 |
| clarkb | mordred: what we can do is run tox to just install stuff, then run the command out of that venv then run tox -epep8 | 20:13 |
| mordred | oh - the second one | 20:13 |
| mordred | sure | 20:13 |
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| mordred | ok - we can do that | 20:13 |
| mordred | instead | 20:13 |
| clarkb | BUT this doesn't actually fix easy install... | 20:13 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I agree that we should git ignore .eggs. | 20:14 |
| mordred | yes. we should ignore eggs. but we should ALSO not easy install in run-pep8 | 20:14 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I think we should also be doing the sdist in a venv (e.g. via tox) | 20:14 |
| mordred | it's two different things | 20:14 |
| mordred | and both should fix | 20:14 |
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| clarkb | mordred: you need to make pbr a runtime dep for every project then | 20:14 |
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| mordred | right. which is why we can also do my patch above | 20:14 |
| lifeless | clarkb: and I understand that that needs pbr listed either in tox.ini deps= or as a runtime dep of the project (which it is for most, and should be for all since exporting your version number is a good citizen thing to do) | 20:14 |
| mordred | to fix the gate-triggers-easy-install path | 20:14 |
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| clarkb | (I am not opposed to using a venv to sdist I just want ot point out it doens't ctually fix the issue) | 20:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: it fixes part of the issue | 20:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: there are two issues | 20:15 |
| mordred | in two different places | 20:15 |
| mordred | that overlap | 20:15 |
| mordred | venv sdist in pep8 job prevents easy_install from being executed in the gate | 20:16 |
| mordred | that is one thing that is worth fixing | 20:16 |
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| clarkb | anyways I would tox --notest -epep8, .tox/pep8/bin/python setup.py sdist, then tox -epep8 in that job | 20:16 |
| clarkb | and don't do anything specific with pbr | 20:16 |
| mordred | gitignore eggs fixes the problem of pep8 running on in-tree eggs | 20:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: no the pbr install prevents easy_install from running | 20:16 |
| clarkb | virtualenvs are actually unrelated | 20:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: your thing does not fix the gate | 20:17 |
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| clarkb | mordred: ? | 20:17 |
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| mordred | clarkb: if there are projects that lack pbr in their requirements | 20:17 |
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| clarkb | yes but thats true of every single tox run | 20:17 |
| mordred | then gate job will still trigger easy_install for those as you have pointed out | 20:17 |
| armax | hi folks, how can I make changes to this team? https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/539,members? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | so that isn't a regression which is my point | 20:17 |
| clarkb | and you aren't fixing that regression here anyways | 20:17 |
| clarkb | (if we were to treat it as one) | 20:17 |
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| mordred | clarkb: I'm not sure what you are arguing against | 20:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: I am aguing against explicitly installing pbr in one place | 20:18 |
| mordred | clarkb: why. that will fix the intent of the line that it is replacing | 20:18 |
| clarkb | because that doesn't actually fix anything it masks the problem | 20:18 |
| mordred | clarkb: it may not fix the other things that it does not attempt to fix | 20:18 |
| mordred | but it WILL fix easy_install being triggered by EVERY sdist test | 20:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: because p27 pep8 etc etc won't install pbr first | 20:18 |
| jeblair | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/530,members this group owns it and can make changes | 20:18 |
| clarkb | mordred: so its still broken | 20:18 |
| mordred | I don't care | 20:18 |
| clarkb | wat | 20:18 |
| mordred | as you pointed out, that's not a regression | 20:18 |
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| mordred | so I'm not trying to fix that | 20:19 |
| mordred | I'm trying to fix | 20:19 |
| mordred | the oversight | 20:19 |
| clarkb | right so why treat the other thing as a regression? | 20:19 |
| clarkb | instead just do the other thing with tox as I described | 20:19 |
| mordred | becuase we're talking about two different things | 20:19 |
| clarkb | then you are either still broken or not broken already and sdist just works | 20:19 |
| mordred | there are more than one issue | 20:19 |
| nibalizer | mordred: do my credentials work again? | 20:19 |
| armax | jeblair: ok, so I should talk to any member of that group then | 20:19 |
| armax | jeblair: thanks | 20:19 |
| clarkb | but in both cases the fix is simple, add pbr to deps | 20:19 |
| mordred | nibalizer: no, ospurge sucks | 20:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: add pbr to deps is not simple | 20:19 |
| clarkb | it is in tox | 20:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: there are literally hundreds of problems | 20:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: there are literally hundreds of prjects | 20:20 |
| clarkb | mordred: right so why does bandaiding one inconsequential location matter? | 20:20 |
| clarkb | thats my point | 20:20 |
| clarkb | we don't fix anything with that change | 20:20 |
| mordred | because it makes the sdist command at least as good as the other tox commands | 20:20 |
| clarkb | no it doesn't | 20:20 |
| mordred | right now it is not as good | 20:20 |
| mordred | it does | 20:20 |
| clarkb | no | 20:20 |
| clarkb | it explicitly adds a dep that may not actually be a dep | 20:20 |
| clarkb | if instead you use tox as Idescribe you avoid that | 20:21 |
| mordred | right. to teh sdist command | 20:21 |
| clarkb | but it will be fixed for anyone with an actual pbr dep | 20:21 |
| clarkb | so it works for both pbr and not pbr | 20:21 |
| mordred | wow. omg | 20:21 |
| mordred | ok | 20:21 |
| mordred | I | 20:21 |
| mordred | we're intractable | 20:21 |
| mordred | and saying opposite things | 20:21 |
| mordred | and I'm not going to contine talking about this | 20:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: what is the issue iwht using tox as I describe? | 20:21 |
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| clarkb | tox --notest -epep8 && .tox/pep8/bin/python setup.py sdist && tox -epep8 | 20:22 |
| clarkb | that won't artificially inject any deps to the sdist process | 20:22 |
| mordred | but I don't CARE about deps in the sdist process | 20:22 |
| clarkb | which is a problem because if we say you must do random things that are undocumented to actually make an sdist what are we testing? | 20:22 |
| mordred | that's not the point of the sdist test | 20:23 |
| mordred | deps or not deps in it literally do not matter AT ALL | 20:23 |
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| mordred | there are zero need for deps in to check whether or not the project can build an sdist | 20:23 |
| clarkb | they do if the point is can we make an sdist | 20:23 |
| mordred | no | 20:23 |
| mordred | deps aren't related | 20:23 |
| mordred | the only reason fo rhte venv | 20:23 |
| mordred | is to have a place that pbr is | 20:23 |
| mordred | so that easy install will not install it | 20:23 |
| mordred | _before_ we run something else | 20:24 |
| clarkb | and my suggestion does that for projects that want to | 20:24 |
| clarkb | and does not for projects that dont | 20:24 |
| mordred | it's an artificial sequence | 20:24 |
| clarkb | your change does it for everyone | 20:24 |
| clarkb | regardless of want/intent/need | 20:24 |
| mordred | yes | 20:24 |
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| mordred | I don't care about their intent/need/want | 20:24 |
| mordred | that's not what we're testing | 20:24 |
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| mordred | we're not testing their tox environment's ability to not leave cruft in the source dir after an sdist | 20:24 |
| clarkb | we are testing their ability to make an sdist | 20:24 |
| mordred | we're testing being able to run sdist THEN a clean pep8 | 20:24 |
| mordred | yes | 20:25 |
| mordred | we are testing | 20:25 |
| mordred | that | 20:25 |
| mordred | but we're also ACcIDENTALLY | 20:25 |
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| mordred | ttesting being able to run sdist THEN a clean pep8 | 20:25 |
| mordred | which is not a thing we care about | 20:25 |
| clarkb | your change is testing our ability to install pbr and sdist | 20:25 |
| mordred | what I'm doing is disconnecting the testing of being able to run a tarball from being able to run an sdist | 20:25 |
| clarkb | which is different | 20:25 |
| mordred | since that sequence does not matter | 20:25 |
| mordred | it's not different | 20:26 |
| mordred | it doesn't matter | 20:26 |
| clarkb | it is for any project without an explicit dep on pbr | 20:26 |
| mordred | why? | 20:26 |
| clarkb | because it will mkae them artificially pass when they should fail | 20:26 |
| clarkb | since you need pbr first but they won't do that | 20:26 |
| mordred | why should they fail? | 20:26 |
| clarkb | bceause they don't depend on the thing they depend on | 20:26 |
| mordred | they setup_requires on them | 20:27 |
| mordred | which will make it work | 20:27 |
| mordred | it will just make it work in a way that will leave cruft in the source dir | 20:27 |
| clarkb | but we are asserting for things to work they must also runtime dep on pbr | 20:27 |
| clarkb | thats what this assertion is | 20:27 |
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| mordred | no | 20:27 |
| mordred | that's not what the assertion is | 20:28 |
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| clarkb | then py27 et al should also fail | 20:28 |
| mordred | not at all | 20:28 |
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| clarkb | but they wil leasy install | 20:28 |
| mordred | so? | 20:28 |
| clarkb | and you have said thats bad | 20:28 |
| clarkb | so? thats the whol ething you are avoiding | 20:28 |
| clarkb | if thats not a problem then no change needed | 20:28 |
| mordred | I'm avoiding an easy install that WE ADDED | 20:28 |
| mordred | fixing the other easy_installs is fixed by added pbr to requirements | 20:28 |
| clarkb | yes and I am saying the way to fix that is what I described | 20:29 |
| clarkb | because it will remove additional easy install but preserve existing easy install | 20:29 |
| clarkb | rather than an indisciminant removal | 20:29 |
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| clarkb | if you run tox to install first without running tests, and sdist there the easy_install count will not change | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add ansible-role-(diskimage-builder|jenkins-job-builder) https://review.openstack.org/252001 | 20:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/requirements: Bump inspectorclient to 1.3.0 to support get_data https://review.openstack.org/255482 | 20:31 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi: i updated git restack to work on more branches by default: (it tries the argument if given, or if that fails, what's in .gitreview, or if that fails, master) | 20:31 |
| mordred | jeblair: awesome! | 20:31 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi: restack = "!f() { B=$(grep -oP 'defaultbranch=\\K.*' .gitreview); B=${1:-$B}; B=${B:-master}; git rebase -i $(git merge-base HEAD origin/$B); }; f" | 20:31 |
| lifeless | clarkb: why don't you want indiscriminate removal ? | 20:32 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. I understand your point. but what I'm saying is that the problem you are solving is an increase in scope to what that sdist was there to check. the patch I put up cleans up an unclean thing. it can be imrpoved on, so perhaps a follow up patch that does even more awesome things would be great | 20:32 |
| mordred | but instead what we've done | 20:32 |
| mordred | is argue for 30 miuntes | 20:32 |
| clarkb | lifeless: because I want projects that have had the control to continue to have control | 20:32 |
| clarkb | lifeless: I want to minimally change things | 20:32 |
| clarkb | rather than just change things because I can | 20:32 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi: that's pretty close to the line of being too complicated for a one-liner... possibly over the line :) should maybe consider making a dedicated script or adding it to git-review... | 20:33 |
| fungi | jeblair: that's wicked! and also starting to rattle the alias cage door and risk breaking loose into being a separate tool | 20:33 |
| fungi | yeah. that | 20:33 |
| mordred | jeblair: I'm thinking perhaps adding to git-review might be good :) | 20:33 |
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| mordred | jeblair: or making a new project called git-restack | 20:33 |
| jeblair | mordred, fungi: anyway, i have to run get lunch, think about it / try it out, and let's talk later | 20:33 |
| mordred | ossum | 20:33 |
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| fungi | i'm on the fence about whether adding more git subcommand entrypoints to git-review is sane, but yeah that's an awesome improvement | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: test requirements with grenade multinode https://review.openstack.org/255353 | 20:34 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: You make any progress on glean + f23? | 20:51 |
| greghaynes | ianw: something that occured to me - we could make glean func tests using dib | 20:51 |
| clarkb | if I see another f23 node booting I will try to grab the console log from nova | 20:53 |
| greghaynes | I can make an image and boot it real quick | 20:53 |
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| TheJulia | win 6 | 20:55 |
| TheJulia | doh | 20:55 |
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| lifeless | mordred: oh btw https://pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools_shim | 20:57 |
| lifeless | mordred: if it becomes an actual thing thing, I think we'll want that in oslo | 20:57 |
| fungi | infra-root: yet another offer for nodepool resources... the intel/rackspace "oic" joint effort has reached out to invite us to fill out http://go.rackspace.com/developercloud with details for what we need/could use | 20:57 |
| fungi | i'm considering telling them we'll get back to them since we already have several new providers in the active pipeline | 20:58 |
| anteaya | fungi: woooo | 20:58 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: oic? | 20:58 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: that thing where intel donated some thousands of machines to rackspace to use for "developing openstack" | 20:58 |
| anteaya | well considering the speed at which they move, I'm guessing it might be 6 months before we actually have nodes to test | 20:58 |
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| * fungi is almost certainly misrepresenting the relationship there | 20:59 | |
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| anteaya | fungi: can't hurt to ask for 600 or so and see what happens | 20:59 |
| mordred | fungi: I dunno - we're losing the 600 nodes from hp sooner than later | 20:59 |
| mordred | fungi: would be nice to request an account with 600 as anteaya says | 20:59 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, figured that from the link. but what's the acronym mean? | 20:59 |
| greghaynes | fungi: agree with anteaya, maybe mention that we have other stuff in the pipeline but doesnt hurt to also give them info so they can start | 20:59 |
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| fungi | yep, so what we're really lacking is a volunteer to handle that new addition | 21:00 |
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| clarkb | I can do | 21:00 |
| clarkb | *do it | 21:00 |
| anteaya | I mean I'm all for omfra cloud being the great way forward but since they are knocking on the door and all | 21:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: awesome! i'll cc you on the thread | 21:00 |
| mtreinish | fungi: they say the've got 2x1000 nodes on that link, so I say ask for 1000 | 21:00 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I can help if there are any non-root duties to be done | 21:01 |
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| fungi | mtreinish: i planned to ask for all 2000...? ;) | 21:01 |
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| sdague | so, I know ianw has a -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253561/ - but I'm confused why, because f21 isn't working | 21:02 |
| ianw | greghaynes: well the first thing i'm seeing is the systemd unit file looking for glean in /usr/local/bin | 21:02 |
| fungi | anteaya: i expect there are some things to be done that don't require a root admin. clarkb can cut you in on what he needs | 21:02 |
| clarkb | sdague: tehre is no f23 yet | 21:02 |
| fungi | if so | 21:02 |
| ianw | sdague: well i just think it's more confusing to get NOT_REGISTERED | 21:02 |
| anteaya | fungi: clarkb works for me, thanks | 21:02 |
| greghaynes | ianw: is that not where it gets installed? | 21:02 |
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| sdague | wait, there is no f23 at all? | 21:03 |
| clarkb | sdague: not yet | 21:03 |
| sdague | I thought it was in experimental queues | 21:03 |
| ianw | greghaynes: no, pip puts it in /usr/bin | 21:03 |
| clarkb | we have images but no VMs | 21:03 |
| ianw | sdague: it is, working on getting it up | 21:03 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, I figured leave the other half alone just so there is leftover capacity for when 1 half goes down | 21:03 |
| fungi | sdague: he only just got the images successfully building for f23 last night, now they're not booting for some reason (looks like networking configuration, possibly glean-related?) | 21:03 |
| sdague | ah, ok, I didn't realize it was in a NOT_REGISTERED state | 21:03 |
| fungi | mtreinish: touché! | 21:04 |
| ianw | greghaynes: i bet debian puts it there though ... | 21:04 |
| greghaynes | ianw: it does. that is wierd | 21:04 |
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| fungi | yeah, debian considers /usr/bin the domain of distro packages, and /usr/local/bin for tools installed outside of distro packaging | 21:05 |
| clarkb | yes fedora/redhat do things the "right" way which is actually the "wrong" way | 21:05 |
| ianw | greghaynes: use of "local" and pip has been a pita difference with fedora/ubuntu for ages | 21:05 |
| fungi | in theory so that you can back up /usr/local and just rebuild the rest of /usr from scratch | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | quotes because no one seems to agree on what right and wrong are here but there is a pep | 21:05 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: glad that it's clear | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | and red hat packaging follows the pep, debian doesn't but typically debian works when fedora explodes | 21:06 |
| clarkb | so its a case of pragmatically the pep maybe isn't so good | 21:06 |
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| fungi | well, it's a case of the python community trying to tell distros one way to do things, when different distros are already pretty set in their ways and don't see eye-to-eye as it is | 21:07 |
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| anteaya | at least with cars and highways there are only two choices, right and left | 21:08 |
| fungi | sort of unrealistic to think that a third party would be able to convince the others that their disagreements can be solved by just not disagreeing and doing things the same way | 21:09 |
| fungi | </utopia> | 21:09 |
| mordred | nibalizer: ok. your userrc is up to date | 21:10 |
| mordred | nibalizer: and your user and project are re-created | 21:10 |
| greghaynes | ianw: This is annoying to fix. We kind of dont want to just assume if you are using systemd then you must be on RH | 21:10 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: ianw do unit files not have a path of some sort? | 21:11 |
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| greghaynes | good question | 21:11 |
| clarkb | can just set path to include both then refer by name not path? | 21:11 |
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| ianw | clarkb: refuses to start anything that doesn't have a fully qualified path name | 21:11 |
| clarkb | nice | 21:12 |
| ianw | "executable path is not absolute" | 21:12 |
| clarkb | $(which glean) | 21:12 |
| fungi | portability, thy name is systemd | 21:12 |
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| greghaynes | I have a bad idea - two services with ConditionPathExists= | 21:12 |
| clarkb | except which isn't installed | 21:12 |
| mordred | infra-root: on infra-cloud west I have created an infra domain and put the infra user and infra project that nibalizer created in it. if you create more projects or users, please create them in a domain | 21:12 |
| mordred | clarkb: I was just about to say that :) | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | mordred: :) | 21:12 |
| fungi | i have an even badder idea: ubuntu/debian unit files separate from fedora/rhel unit files | 21:12 |
| greghaynes | fungi: Yea, that is the better form of my bad idea ;) | 21:13 |
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| mordred | infra-root: we do not strictly need the domain - but I want to make sure that our stuff works with domains where we've got control before we get a cloud that requires them and we're under duress or something (it all should Just Work) | 21:13 |
| * ianw is not saying anything about distro packages | 21:13 | |
| fungi | the promise of systemd uniting the distros with "one true init config" was at best fleeting | 21:13 |
| mordred | crinkle: ^^ | 21:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add reno notes to announce script output https://review.openstack.org/255526 | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: format reno section of release notes more nicely https://review.openstack.org/255527 | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add URLs from links to the text output https://review.openstack.org/255528 | 21:14 |
| clarkb | nibalizer: now that mordred has that domained you should setup the security groups. We open them up wide open. So allow all icmp, udp, and tcp from all addresses | 21:14 |
| greghaynes | fungi: hopefully it can at least unite them against a common enemy | 21:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-graphite: Add python-tz package https://review.openstack.org/254371 | 21:14 |
| fungi | greghaynes: down with the system v unbelievers? | 21:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh - I was going to look for a second into configuring the default security group that everybody gets | 21:14 |
| greghaynes | ianw: best option I have heard so far is debian/rh dirs of init files | 21:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: oh that works too but I thin kyou have to recreate the users to have it take effect | 21:15 |
| clarkb | mordred: this was part of the problem with our initial use of hpcloud 1.1, we got in before al lthe defaults were sane | 21:15 |
| mordred | clarkb: awesome. well, if I figure it out before nibz gets back, I can delete and re-create again | 21:15 |
| mordred | I have a working ospurge now | 21:15 |
| mordred | oh - if anybody needs ospurge - you'll want my patches that I have put up for review | 21:16 |
| fungi | i have a feeling systemd wants to be smart and figure out whether it should mount filesystem /foo before it starts a service /foo/bar/baz | 21:16 |
| fungi | and so relative executable names and search paths are sort of at odds with that | 21:16 |
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| greghaynes | ah, ya, makes sense | 21:16 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: but would this actually break networking at start? if it didn't run? should still have address via dhcp | 21:17 |
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| greghaynes | ianw: depends on where the node booted. In rax it would break networking | 21:18 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ do you remember which cloud it was in? | 21:18 |
| fungi | greghaynes: ianw: yeah the one i was watching booted in rax-iad and was unreachable | 21:18 |
| fungi | clarkb: ^ | 21:18 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: it really sucks for glean to be in the "is this a redhat platform" business. it's notoriously tricky to figure that out in a sane way (we'll be fine for our limited platforms, but writing something generically portable) | 21:19 |
| fungi | i too tried to ssh into it as soon as it went active according to nova show. repeatedly. never got a syn+ack back | 21:19 |
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| clarkb | what if | 21:19 |
| clarkb | ianw: greghaynes: the dib build itself could which glean then write the full path to the unit files | 21:19 |
| fungi | so it seemed like it never correctly configured eth0 | 21:19 |
| greghaynes | ianw: Yep, that is kind of it's job though (it has to do that for all the networking bits). For picking the correct init scripts that is dib's job though | 21:19 |
| clarkb | ianw: greghaynes then you don't care what distro it is you just always write out the path correct for the current chroot | 21:20 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: Yep, that would be trivial to do if there were multiple distro specific dirs | 21:20 |
| fungi | that seems like a sane enough solution | 21:20 |
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| greghaynes | right now dib does the init script installing already | 21:20 |
| fungi | basically template the unit file | 21:20 |
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| greghaynes | ya, that would work too | 21:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: oh - wow. the default security group rules are just totally blank | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | mordred: yup | 21:21 |
| fungi | mordred: does that make it pass everything, or drop everything? | 21:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: so by default no traffic flows | 21:21 |
| clarkb | need to open the spice trade | 21:21 |
| clarkb | fungi: drop everything | 21:21 |
| fungi | the spice must flow | 21:21 |
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| greghaynes | I am a fan of just having two dirs (debian / redhat) in glean with init configs - then glean is a lot more useful on it's own without some extra processing logic which lives in dib | 21:22 |
| greghaynes | dib can just dtrt for copying the correct file | 21:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: for an ipv4 only cloud you need 3 rules, imcp/udp/tcp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 21:22 |
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| ianw | greghaynes: i think it should see where "glean.sh" is, and template that in, rather than doing platform detection | 21:23 |
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| clarkb | I think if you set the ports to -1 -1 on udp and tcp it means all ports | 21:23 |
| clarkb | alternative is 1 65535 | 21:23 |
| ianw | greghaynes: just got to run kids to school ... i'll work on that in a bit | 21:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: nm - openstack client doesn't show them right | 21:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481388/ | 21:23 |
| mordred | so yeah - it only has rules for traffic from the same group | 21:24 |
| clarkb | oh ya delete any group rules | 21:24 |
| mordred | yup | 21:24 |
| clarkb | since they apparently cause perofrmance problems | 21:24 |
| greghaynes | ianw: ok. Also check out this old tripleo element for a laugh http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/tree/elements/os-svc-install/README.md | 21:24 |
| greghaynes | since it does the general case of what we want here | 21:24 |
| mordred | neutron security-group-rule-create --direction ingress --ethertype IPv4 default | 21:26 |
| mordred | neutron security-group-rule-create --direction ingress --ethertype IPv6 default | 21:26 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: you know all the things ... where do I look to find what security groups an openstack project gets by default? | 21:26 |
| greghaynes | secgroup-default-something | 21:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | mordred: howdy | 21:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think every project gets a default security group of default by default | 21:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah | 21:27 |
| greghaynes | yes, there is a secgroup named default | 21:27 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: is there any way to configure the rules that get added to a project's default security group by default? | 21:27 |
| greghaynes | there is also secgroup-list-default-rules | 21:27 |
| greghaynes | secgroup-add-default-rule ? | 21:28 |
| mordred | oh! neat | 21:28 |
| greghaynes | that worked in my cloud, at least | 21:28 |
| fungi | sounds like what we want | 21:29 |
| mordred | greghaynes: oh - was that with nova ? | 21:29 |
| greghaynes | mordred: yes | 21:29 |
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| mordred | *headdesk* | 21:29 |
| fungi | and what most openstack users actually want, yet public cloud deployers seem to not realize | 21:29 |
| mordred | I do not see the same thing in neutron | 21:29 |
| greghaynes | in neutron land I think you just use the default security group | 21:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | by default instances will get the default secgroup | 21:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | which i think is the same for all projects by default | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/shade: Improve test coverage: volume attach/detach API https://review.openstack.org/255534 | 21:29 |
| mordred | so ... | 21:30 |
| mordred | the user account I just used | 21:30 |
| mordred | which is not an admin account | 21:30 |
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| mordred | was able to modify the security group rules for the default security group | 21:30 |
| greghaynes | I think that is your default security group | 21:30 |
| fungi | that seems odd. i wonder if that's a per-tenant default group? | 21:30 |
| fungi | and not a cloud global default group | 21:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | fungi: if you modify the default secgroup rules for your project, it only modifies them for the project | 21:31 |
| greghaynes | I notice a whole list of security group's named default in my cloud with different id's | 21:31 |
| fungi | Sam-I-Am: makes sense, so it's context sensitive whether you use an admin account or a non-admin tenant-scoped account? | 21:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | greghaynes: there's one per project | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: OIDC - OpenId Connect Implementation https://review.openstack.org/198458 | 21:31 |
| greghaynes | Sam-I-Am: makes sense | 21:32 |
| mordred | yes. I confirm | 21:32 |
| mordred | there is a different default security group per project | 21:32 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: so, that impllies to me that something is creating that default security group for the project, yeah? | 21:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mordred: yeah, if you're using neutron it lives in neutron | 21:32 |
| fungi | but there's one global template default security group that's used to initially create the per-project default security groups (so that you can decide what they should start out with)? | 21:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | although you can modify it using nova commands | 21:33 |
| fungi | er, what mordred said | 21:33 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: ok. so I have to use nova command to modify it | 21:33 |
| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/requirements: add aodh to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/244881 | 21:33 |
| mordred | and I cannot modify it with neutron commands | 21:33 |
| mordred | ? | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Block oslo.messaging 3.1.0 since it breaks Ironic https://review.openstack.org/254911 | 21:33 |
| greghaynes | You should be able to use neutron, just refer to the group default | 21:34 |
| mordred | greghaynes: no - that gets me the project's security group named default | 21:34 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: thanks for pointing out those logstash upgrade steps in the comment | 21:34 |
| greghaynes | mordred: oh, you want to modify the global default? | 21:34 |
| mordred | yes | 21:34 |
| jeblair | wait | 21:35 |
| mordred | I want to modify the thing that gets created per project | 21:35 |
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| jeblair | i have not read all of the scrollback, but i see something about security groups... | 21:35 |
| mordred | yes | 21:35 |
| jeblair | don't specify protocol | 21:35 |
| jeblair | use -1 which means all protocols | 21:35 |
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| mordred | yes | 21:35 |
| jeblair | halves the number of rules | 21:35 |
| mordred | that is what I did | 21:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | mordred: you can use nova or neutron commands | 21:35 |
| jeblair | this is not exactly what clarkb said | 21:35 |
| mordred | I'm trying to learn how to modify the cloud's idea of what a new project's default security group looks like | 21:35 |
| jeblair | so just wanted to make sure that got corrected | 21:35 |
| mordred | jeblair: it did | 21:35 |
| jeblair | cool carry on, sorry, i'll get back to trying to catch up | 21:36 |
| clarkb | jeblair: you can wildcard icmp/tcp/udp too? | 21:36 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: ok. bear with me here - because I cannot find the command in neutron | 21:36 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes | 21:36 |
| mordred | neutron security-group-rule-create --direction ingress --ethertype IPv4 default | 21:36 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yep, that's what we actually have in place in most of our providers | 21:36 |
| Shrews | i don't think -1 works in newer versions, fwiw | 21:36 |
| mordred | that is how to make a wildcard rule using neutron | 21:36 |
| fungi | ip protocol -1? interesting | 21:36 |
| mordred | you don't need it | 21:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: but that applies the default rules right? | 21:36 |
| mordred | just omit it | 21:36 |
| mordred | no | 21:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: what does that do? | 21:36 |
| jeblair | well, i'm speaking from gui experience, never used the command line | 21:36 |
| Shrews | mordred: that was a pita in shade (the -1 thing) | 21:37 |
| jeblair | it might be -1 in the gui and omit on the command line | 21:37 |
| mordred | that is how to create a rule that applies to any protocol from any source | 21:37 |
| greghaynes | mordred: I have a default security group that belongs to the admin tenant. I wonder if that is the global default? | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | its -1 for the cli | 21:37 |
| mordred | greghaynes: no - that is the default security group for the admin's project | 21:37 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: it's not | 21:37 |
| greghaynes | :( | 21:37 |
| mordred | it's omit in the CLI | 21:37 |
| mordred | you do not need to pass -1 | 21:37 |
| fungi | i wonder why it uses -1 and not 0 (which is basically documented as the "pseudo protocol number" for all ip protocol) | 21:37 |
| clarkb | mordred: so saying default there does not refer to the default group but rather ot default open? | 21:37 |
| Shrews | -1 is nova only. doesn't apply in neutron | 21:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | Shrews: ahh thats probably why | 21:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | Shrews: we use the nova command in a lot of the docs | 21:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: default on the command line is "which security group would you like to add this rule to" | 21:38 |
| fungi | oh, maybe because v6 uses 0 for hop-by-hop option (rfc 1883) | 21:38 |
| mordred | each project gets a security group named "default" | 21:38 |
| clarkb | mordred: right so where in that command are you saying ports -1 to -1 and source 0.0.0.0/0 ? | 21:38 |
| mordred | that security group is the security group that is used by nova by default | 21:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | mordred: correct | 21:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: by omitting those arguments, I am saying that | 21:38 |
| clarkb | wow | 21:38 |
| clarkb | thats | 21:38 |
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| clarkb | something something UX | 21:39 |
| mordred | I like it | 21:39 |
| mordred | because it's what we want :) | 21:39 |
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| mordred | but sure | 21:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: well ya but generally with ACL type things you don't do that | 21:39 |
| clarkb | mordred: bceause the rule to allow everything should be explicit | 21:39 |
| jeblair | clarkb: doesn't iptables work like that? | 21:39 |
| clarkb | and implicit should be bloc keverything | 21:39 |
| mordred | sure | 21:39 |
| mordred | but, let's come back to my question for a sec plz | 21:39 |
| fungi | oh, i bet they did protocol -1 as the layer 3 wildcard to be consistent with port -1 for the layer 4 wildcard (since there is also a port 0) | 21:39 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: if I use the neutron command line program | 21:40 |
| greghaynes | mordred: so I have no idea how to modify the default security group that is initially made... this is wierd | 21:40 |
| greghaynes | but I do want to know how | 21:40 |
| jeblair | greghaynes, mordred: ++ | 21:40 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I am not sure what a iptables -Iwould do | 21:40 |
| greghaynes | I wonder if everyone just has some logic to make a sane default security group when they make a new tenant | 21:40 |
| fungi | heh... wwiptd | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/launch-instance.html | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | look at the 'security group' bits | 21:40 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: and I want to do the equiv of nova secgroup-create-default-rule | 21:41 |
| notmorgan | i should review some ospurge shouldn't i... | 21:41 |
| notmorgan | me is just thinking | 21:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | in this case, nova just talks to neutron and the rules are implemented in neutron | 21:41 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: what do I do | 21:41 |
| greghaynes | mordred: Youre sure that doesn't just modify your project's default security group too? | 21:41 |
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| mordred | greghaynes: yes. it is an admin command that requires an aPI extension | 21:41 |
| greghaynes | ah | 21:41 |
| mordred | ERROR (Forbidden): Policy doesn't allow compute_extension:security_group_default_rules to be performed. (HTTP 403) (Request-ID: req-4f79a454-bc34-4c2f-b253-63e436fc9214) | 21:41 |
| mordred | that is what I get when I try that nova command | 21:42 |
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| greghaynes | sweet, so sounds like a winner | 21:42 |
| mordred | well | 21:42 |
| clarkb | jeblair: without a -j flag the manpage tells me that rule will not have an effect on the packets fate | 21:42 |
| mordred | I don't want to use nova | 21:42 |
| mordred | this is important | 21:42 |
| mordred | nova does not undersatnd IPv6 | 21:42 |
| mordred | so I _cannot_ use nova to modify the default neutron IPv6 rule | 21:42 |
| clarkb | jeblair: so iptables noops in that case | 21:42 |
| mordred | it also does not understand the difference between egress and ingress rules | 21:42 |
| mordred | SO | 21:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mordred: i dont think there's an equivalent of that secgroup-add-default-rule in neutron | 21:43 |
| mordred | without using nova proxy commands I'm trying to figure out how to tell the thing how to modify the cloud's default rules, not the rules in a projects default grou | 21:43 |
| mordred | that's awesome | 21:43 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: thank you | 21:43 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Merge configurations with multiple layout files https://review.openstack.org/255414 | 21:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably a good idea to verify this with the neutron folks | 21:44 |
| jeblair | clarkb: sure, i think i'm saying this is like "iptables -j ACCEPT" because you're leaving off "-p 80" | 21:44 |
| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: I thought you are the neutron folks | 21:44 |
| anteaya | mordred: I asked sc68cal about this earlier today when it first came up | 21:45 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so at least, for me, it makes some sense. i can see you might make a different mental equivalency and it wouldn't make sense to you though. | 21:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | anteaya: yeah... but its hard to know everything | 21:45 |
| mordred | anteaya: neat! did sc68cal have any answers? | 21:45 |
| anteaya | he tried to find an opening in the conversation but was unsuccessful | 21:45 |
| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: true | 21:45 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: he had to go offline this aft and said he would come and find you tomorrow | 21:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need downloadmoreram.com for my brain | 21:45 |
| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: no, no we don't | 21:45 |
| mordred | anteaya: thank you | 21:45 |
| anteaya | Sam-I-Am: we need Matt needs some time offline, and perhaps flying | 21:46 |
| anteaya | mordred: welcome | 21:46 |
| clarkb | jeblair: to me that maps to just saying iptables -I INPUT (add a rule to this table without any content) but I guess neutron doesn't allow deny rules just allows? | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | anteaya: its been over 2 weeks since i've flown, but i am just 20 miles shy of a 200 mile cycling week | 21:46 |
| anteaya | wooooo | 21:46 |
| anteaya | no idea what that means | 21:46 |
| anteaya | but numbers | 21:46 |
| anteaya | oooooo | 21:46 |
| anteaya | :) | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | 200 miles of cycling in a week | 21:46 |
| anteaya | fly | 21:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats a lot for any week, and a record for december | 21:47 |
| anteaya | oh bicycle | 21:47 |
| anteaya | impressive | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah. pedal thing. | 21:47 |
| anteaya | I walked 8k yesterday and 4k so far today | 21:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wooo | 21:47 |
| anteaya | hoping to walk another 4 to 8 tongith | 21:47 |
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| anteaya | tonight | 21:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | mordred: i gotta split for a bit, but i'll get your question answered | 21:47 |
| anteaya | woooo | 21:47 |
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| mordred | Sam-I-Am: thanks! | 21:48 |
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| clarkb | looking at the neutron api doc the valid values for protocol are null, tcp, udp, icmp, so clients must be translating -1/all/whatever to none? | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Don't swallow interrupts https://review.openstack.org/255543 | 21:51 |
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| sdague | well, the f21 jobs are hard fail now, so if we don't get something up soon, maybe we should stop running them anyway | 21:51 |
| fungi | clarkb: when i cc you on this oic thread, should i use your sapwetik.org, gmail.com or openstack.org address? | 21:52 |
| * fungi can;t remember what you prefer | 21:52 | |
| clarkb | fungi: not gmail, either of the other two is fine | 21:52 |
| fungi | k | 21:52 |
| clarkb | I am trying to not use gmail for work because its unreliable | 21:52 |
| clarkb | not to mention all the other problems iwht it | 21:53 |
| fungi | makes sense. just saw you were using it for git authorship | 21:53 |
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| tdurakov_ | hi folks | 21:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya I mostly haven't changed git authorship for historical reasons | 21:53 |
| tdurakov_ | what is the password for stack user in upstream ci? | 21:53 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: whatver is in the openrc | 21:53 |
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| tdurakov_ | clarkb, openrc, right! ADMIN_PASSWORD=secretadmin - this one? Need to provide it for: sudo $ANSIBLE subnodes -u stack --sudo -f 5 -i "$WORKSPACE/inventory" -m copy -a "src=/etc/ceph/ceph.conf dest=/etc/ceph/ceph.conf" | 21:56 |
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| tdurakov_ | got FAILED => Missing become password | 21:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Initial puppet setup should be done as root https://review.openstack.org/254326 | 21:57 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: devstack-gate should not configure ceph | 21:57 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: devstack needs to do that | 21:57 |
| tdurakov_ | it's not d-g | 21:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: if you do the neutron cli equivalent for a protocol without a port (icmp), neutron simply shows no port. if you use nova to read the rules, it plug -1 in when there's no port or port range | 21:57 |
| tdurakov_ | it's my custom hook | 21:57 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: ok I would recommend having a devstack plugin do it | 21:57 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, is it possible to apply plugin after env deployed? | 21:58 |
| clarkb | Sam-I-Am: and no port is match all? | 21:58 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: you would enable the plugin as part of the env deployment | 21:58 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: then it knows what the passwords and all the other config is | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: in the neutron cli, for a proto that uses ports, not specifying any ports is match all (1-65535) | 21:58 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, well, it's not my case( | 21:58 |
| clarkb | Sam-I-Am: gotcha | 21:58 |
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| tdurakov_ | need to setup ceph on live env | 21:59 |
| tdurakov_ | live= already deplloyed | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: the difference is the nova client equivalent command has <from-port> and <to-port> as required options | 21:59 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: I guess my confusion is you asked about the upstream ci | 21:59 |
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| clarkb | tdurakov_: for upstream ci I would deploy ceph using a plugin (which I htink already exists) | 21:59 |
| clarkb | Sam-I-Am: I see | 21:59 |
| zaro | fungi: almost forgot that i should remind you to get me a db dump so i can take a look at cleaning up that project typo. | 21:59 |
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| tdurakov_ | clarkb, it's custom job in upstream ci | 22:00 |
| mordred | clarkb, Sam-I-Am: I'm going to have to disagree again | 22:00 |
| fungi | zaro: yep--i need to step out to dinner in about 15 minutes but that should be plenty of time. just a sec | 22:00 |
| mordred | clarkb, Sam-I-Am: http://paste.openstack.org/show/481393 is the output of mordred@camelot:~$ neutron security-group-rule-list | 22:00 |
| notmorgan | crinkle: let me know when richm is around and you want to revisit that convo | 22:00 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: what are you trying to test? | 22:00 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: that ceph works or that a specific way of deploying ceph works? | 22:00 |
| clarkb | mordred: thats using your command from above? I think that matches up with wat Sam-I-Am says | 22:01 |
| clarkb | mordred: if you don't provide values "any" equivalents are used? | 22:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | clarkb: with the neutron cli, the fewer options you use, the more open the rule becomes | 22:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | missing options are read as "whatever" | 22:02 |
| mordred | clarkb: he said "neutron simply shows no port." | 22:02 |
| clarkb | oh | 22:02 |
| mordred | which is what I was arguing with | 22:02 |
| mordred | it shows the word "any" | 22:02 |
| clarkb | ya it says "any" a bunch | 22:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | mordred: oh, sorry... my bad. the nova cli translates 'any' as 1-65535 | 22:03 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252283/9/nova/tests/live_migration/hooks/run_tests.sh | 22:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | somanyclients | 22:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Allow queue regex specification https://review.openstack.org/251622 | 22:03 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: ya deploy ceph as part of devstack for the live migration job | 22:03 |
| mordred | Sam-I-Am: yah. I have been focused on using osc where it has support for a thing, and the non-proxy versionof the clients where that is not possible | 22:03 |
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| clarkb | tdurakov_: since I htink thats already a thing | 22:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | i hope we can use openstackclient soon | 22:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | for a while neutron was an afterthought in it | 22:04 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, idea was to test several configs in one run | 22:04 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: and do the same for nfs etc | 22:04 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: yup | 22:04 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: then you only have to change the nova config and restart it to select which one you are using | 22:05 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: you don't need to do a new deploy each time | 22:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | aight, i really need to afk now... back in a bit | 22:05 |
| mordred | jeblair, greghaynes, clarkb: ok. answer from neutron channel - it is not possible to change the globel default rules that get created in each project | 22:05 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: you just have to change what nova will use each time | 22:05 |
| clarkb | mordred: time for an RFE? | 22:06 |
| mordred | jeblair, greghaynes, clarkb: the reason for this is that allowing that would cause divergent user experience | 22:06 |
| tdurakov_ | i also want to test env with ceph for glance+nova, and then add cinder for ceph too | 22:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: uh | 22:06 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, ^ | 22:06 |
| ruagair | o/ | 22:06 |
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| mordred | so, honestly, I'm inclined to be in support of that as a thing and just know that first step is running a playbook that makes rules like I want them | 22:06 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: so similar thing then | 22:06 |
| mordred | if I can always count on that being the case, then taht playboot is simple | 22:06 |
| greghaynes | mordred: fun | 22:06 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, yup, do you want me to set up ceph during deployment? | 22:07 |
| clarkb | mordred: at least for hpcloud you can't couldn't count on it | 22:07 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: yes, then when you use ceph just switch the config to use it and restart services | 22:07 |
| greghaynes | mordred: I dont agree with that point (because everyone will and does work around it by doing what youre saying) but w/e | 22:07 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: I don't think you should reinvent devstack's ceph deployment | 22:07 |
| greghaynes | not worth solving that problem right now | 22:07 |
| mordred | nope | 22:07 |
| mordred | I know the answer now | 22:07 |
| mordred | and am happy that I have knowledge that is knowledge | 22:07 |
| clarkb | (hpcloud neutron has rules for ssh) | 22:07 |
| tdurakov_ | clarkb, how to separate glance+nova with ceph and cinder? | 22:07 |
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| clarkb | tdurakov_: that I do not know, I imagine you can just remove the config in cinder for ceph and restart it | 22:08 |
| clarkb | tdurakov_: then remove it from glance and add it to cinder and restart | 22:08 |
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| tdurakov_ | clarkb, need to check that, thanks for advice:) | 22:09 |
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| clarkb | greghaynes: mordred I wonder if consistent user experience is th egoal if we shouldn't have a better default then | 22:11 |
| clarkb | but maybe thats too much bikeshedding | 22:11 |
| clarkb | (being unable to ssh to VMs or ping VMs seems like a bad default) | 22:11 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: I worry that the only one everyone will agree on is no ingress | 22:11 |
| fungi | yeah, i think the _default_ for a router is to route my packets. firewalls are a non-default router experience, so blocking packets you would have routed is, also by extension, not a default router experience | 22:11 |
| greghaynes | which is not what I want | 22:11 |
| mordred | yah | 22:11 |
| clarkb | (as does using group rules which are known to be bad) | 22:12 |
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| mordred | there's lots of people apparently doing lots of no-ingress stuff | 22:12 |
| mordred | clarkb: it's possible the group rules were simply broken at HP and not generally | 22:12 |
| mordred | but adding 2 allow rules is _REALLY_ easy to do | 22:12 |
| fungi | mordred: no, group rules were a terrible, terrible implementation | 22:12 |
| mordred | awesome | 22:12 |
| fungi | there was a security vulnerability around the ability to easily dos a provider that way | 22:13 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: In the devstack plugin, if I name the nodepool logger "nodepool.builder" will the logger config for qualname=nodepool which we use also pick that up? | 22:13 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: er, if I name the nodepool builder logger that | 22:13 |
| fungi | reported to us by a provider, who saw it happening in the wild... one of the providers we use... | 22:13 |
| mordred | considering that "for ether in IPv4 IPv6 ; do neutron security-group-rule-create --direction ingress --ethertype $ether default ; done" fixes it | 22:13 |
| clarkb | greghaynes: yes it should be hierarchical iirc | 22:13 |
| fungi | we very well may have been the ones to bring the behavior to their attention | 22:13 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Add dib deletion test https://review.openstack.org/215275 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image delete using gearman https://review.openstack.org/198114 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image uploads using gearman https://review.openstack.org/197722 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders can be run on their own https://review.openstack.org/232251 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple builders from nodepool instance https://review.openstack.org/232135 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Builders distinguish between failure and exception https://review.openstack.org/242131 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Make secure.conf optional and backwards-compat https://review.openstack.org/232800 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Move nodepool config loading into module https://review.openstack.org/231592 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Trigger image builds using gearman https://review.openstack.org/195175 | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | greghaynes proposed openstack-infra/nodepool: Decouple nodepool db and config from builders https://review.openstack.org/222398 | 22:14 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: ok, wanted to ask before doing ^ | 22:14 |
| * nibalizer hands greghaynes the patchbomb hat | 22:14 | |
| greghaynes | ;) | 22:14 |
| mordred | hrm. actually, I should figure out a playbook that removes the group rules to and make sure we have them | 22:14 |
| fungi | but basically you could cripple a cloud by creating a security host group (or whatever it's called) and then rapidly booting and deleting instances to add and remove them from the group | 22:14 |
| nibalizer | mordred: so am i good with creds now (or can I keep using the ones I had?) | 22:15 |
| fungi | zaro: do you need a tarball of the git tree too? | 22:15 |
| mordred | nibalizer: yup. your userrc file is updated | 22:15 |
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| greghaynes | clarkb: We had a wierd failure on the last patch in the series - one of the dsvm's passed and the other didnt, we didnt have any logging for builders though so :( | 22:16 |
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| zaro | fungi: no, i think just the db dump is all i need. | 22:17 |
| anteaya | fungi: oh I forgot, I had a question earlier, stackalytics bugs, continue on launchpad or file one on storyboard? | 22:17 |
| fungi | zaro: cool, in that case almost done | 22:17 |
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| fungi | anteaya: stackalytics isn't an infra project is it? | 22:18 |
| fungi | anteaya: so stackalytics bugs should get filed wherever the stackalytics team expects them | 22:19 |
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| anteaya | oh I guess we are just puppet-stackalytics | 22:20 |
| anteaya | thought we were getting the whole thing | 22:20 |
| mordred | nibalizer: I re-uploaded your ubuntu image, btw | 22:20 |
| fungi | zaro: there's a sanitized database dump in your homedir on review-dev, called reviewdb_2015-12-09.sql.gz | 22:21 |
| fungi | now i need to run out to dinner. back later | 22:21 |
| mordred | nibalizer: and I have fixed the security groups in that account, and it's mapped to _member_ instead of user | 22:21 |
| mordred | nibalizer: so if you upload a key and then boot a vm it SHOULD work | 22:21 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/stackalytics/+bug/1524519 | 22:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524519 in Stackalytics "irc activity is not tracked" [Undecided,New] | 22:23 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: many thabks | 22:23 |
| anteaya | yup infra is just the puppet module | 22:23 |
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| tmcpeak | hey guys — I've got a unit test that passes on my machine and fails in gate. I suspect that it isn't letting me make a specific named file in /tmp, does that sound right? | 22:24 |
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| nibalizer | mordred: /me tests | 22:25 |
| clarkb | you should use a tmpfile fixture instead | 22:25 |
| tmcpeak | clarkb: the problem is that the program itself uses a tmp file, so it will never run correctly in the gate | 22:25 |
| clarkb | you should have perms but using files like that is racy | 22:26 |
| lifeless | tmcpeak: you can do temp files, but *specific names* is a problem | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: cool | 22:26 |
| tmcpeak | problem for the usual reasons or something special about the gate? | 22:26 |
| lifeless | tmcpeak: you can however export a variable to make your tempdir be a random subdir of /tmp, avoiding the race/security implications of specifically named tempfiles | 22:26 |
| lifeless | tmcpeak: we may have misinterpreted your meaning though - link me to the code? | 22:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch TripleO jobs to F22 jenkins nodes https://review.openstack.org/243684 | 22:27 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: you are so easy to please :) | 22:27 |
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| tmcpeak | lifeless: ok the thing I'm trying to test uses that specific named tmp file, but the reason it does it (rather than using the normal tempfile.mkstemp) is because it itself calls a program | 22:28 |
| tmcpeak | here's what's failing in the gate: https://review.openstack.org/254455 | 22:28 |
| tmcpeak | so this is confusing but basically | 22:28 |
| tmcpeak | the unit test calls the script I'm trying to test, the script calls another program | 22:29 |
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| tmcpeak | the program needs to write (and then read) output from a specific named file, so tempfile.mkstemp isn't what I want because that actually creates a file already for me, and the thing I'm trying to run (Bandit) won't execute if the file I specify exists already | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: tbh, I was kinda joking about that. :) I think stackalytics is toxic for the community so I'd rather just see it disappear then expand in scope | 22:30 |
| mtreinish | although, on the other hand maybe people will concentrate on gaming irc message stats instead of commits and reviews. So there could be a benefit to it :) | 22:30 |
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| clarkb | tmcpeak: the test user can read and write to /tmp | 22:31 |
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| clarkb | so no there shouldn't be anything special about the gate there | 22:31 |
| tmcpeak | ok, so that's not the problem then | 22:31 |
| tmcpeak | clarkb: thank you | 22:31 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: more channel noise, wooooo | 22:31 |
| tmcpeak | it passes on my local machine but doesn't in the gate | 22:31 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: and no argument with any of your above points | 22:31 |
| zaro | fungi: thanks, enjoy dinner | 22:31 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: perhaps we could set up a channel and place a premium on activity in there? | 22:32 |
| clarkb | tmcpeak: keep in mind its running your tests in 8 partitions at the same time | 22:32 |
| tmcpeak | clarkb: partitions? | 22:33 |
| clarkb | tmcpeak: if you have >1 test that depend on this single tmpfile they may race each other. This is one very good reason to not do it this way | 22:33 |
| tmcpeak | ahh ok, no there's only one test | 22:33 |
| clarkb | tmcpeak: yes, it lists all of your tests, divides them into 8 sets, hands a different set to each runner | 22:33 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: looking at the code it is random | 22:34 |
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| tmcpeak | clarkb: how about subprocess.call - does that have any problem in the gate? | 22:35 |
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| clarkb | tmcpeak: it shouldn't | 22:36 |
| lifeless | tmcpeak: I'm just reviewing it | 22:36 |
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| tmcpeak | lifeless: cool, thank you | 22:36 |
| tmcpeak | I'm confused ;) | 22:36 |
| clarkb | tmcpeak: well thats not entirely true, if you fork bomb we shold have ulimits in place to limit that | 22:36 |
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| clarkb | but the limit is well above one fork | 22:36 |
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| tmcpeak | I do my best to only fork bomb my own systems | 22:37 |
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| tmcpeak | lifeless: oh sweet, it's happening on my local system now :) I can debug | 22:39 |
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| asselin_ | nibalizer, when you get a chance, your review of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238606/ would be appreciated | 22:42 |
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| clarkb | infra-root: so I should be asking for ~600 8GB/8vcpu/80GB disk VMs from oic? | 22:45 |
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| anteaya | +1 | 22:45 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: putting a thing toegether at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oic-submission | 22:47 |
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| nibalizer | asselin_: ack | 22:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, don't forget the mirror | 22:51 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: oh right | 22:51 |
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| tmcpeak | lifeless: thanks for the comments, checking them out now | 22:51 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i think http://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/contribute-cloud.html is up to date | 22:51 |
| clarkb | great will go read that | 22:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: aside from the 80g disk | 22:52 |
| lifeless | tmcpeak: you're welcome | 22:52 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: (we really only need 40, but we sort of defacto have 80 everywhere so....) | 22:52 |
| jeblair | clarkb: oh, also should add a link to the infra contributors page on o.o | 22:52 |
| clarkb | jeblair: want to make those hcanges then I can link the doc when I submit | 22:53 |
| jeblair | clarkb: on it | 22:53 |
| tmcpeak | lifeless: fwiw I did consider the security implications, specific temp files suck but at the time it didn't seem to be worth fixing. I agree with you though, may as well just create a directory and stick the file in there | 22:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update cloud contributors doc https://review.openstack.org/255582 | 23:00 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ^ | 23:00 |
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| anteaya | I didn't know donors were being acknowledged on this page: https://www.openstack.org/foundation/companies/ | 23:03 |
| anteaya | persia: ^^ | 23:03 |
| lifeless | whats the name of the new doc for projects | 23:04 |
| clarkb | jeblair: tyop on the 80GB of disk line | 23:04 |
| persia | anteaya: Nice find! | 23:04 |
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| anteaya | jeblair's patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255582/ | 23:04 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I am seeing a capital G where I think you might mean 8 | 23:04 |
| persia | Any idea how that page is administered? I thought we also had bluebox as a donor currently. | 23:05 |
| clarkb | persia: bluebox isn't in "production" yet | 23:05 |
| anteaya | not in production | 23:05 |
| anteaya | we are also testing internap, also not yet in production | 23:05 |
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| clarkb | ok hows https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oic-submission look? | 23:06 |
| anteaya | gobs of storage | 23:06 |
| persia | Ah, so it is up to date. Excellent :) | 23:06 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: looks good to me | 23:07 |
| anteaya | persia: :) | 23:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb, anteaya: i ran out of 8s so i substituted a G; i guess if that doesn't work, i'll pull an 8 from a different font | 23:08 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I can see you running out of 8's in that font | 23:08 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Update cloud contributors doc https://review.openstack.org/255582 | 23:08 |
| Piet | Where should I go to add blueprints for the infra team? | 23:08 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: I have never run out of 8s using vim >_> | 23:08 |
| anteaya | Piet: we use specs | 23:09 |
| anteaya | Piet: infra-specs repo | 23:09 |
| anteaya | Piet: however that uses gerrit and you don't use gerrit | 23:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: nicely done :) | 23:09 |
| anteaya | Piet: so, how about you draw up what you want to say in an etherpad | 23:09 |
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| anteaya | then I can put it into a gerrit patch and we can go from there | 23:09 |
| anteaya | Piet: fair? | 23:09 |
| clarkb | anteaya: Piet is there a problem with using gerrit? | 23:10 |
| clarkb | I would rather we avoid a carousel for addressing comments | 23:10 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: Piet doesn't use gerrit | 23:10 |
| anteaya | he doesn't command line at all | 23:10 |
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| clarkb | you don't need to command line to use gerrit... but its the tool we use | 23:11 |
| anteaya | he has two gerrit patches to his credit, I wrote one on his laptop and travisT wrote the other | 23:11 |
| clarkb | (pretty sure people have $IDE hooked to gerrit) | 23:11 |
| anteaya | yes but since Piet is the ux person I made an exception | 23:11 |
| nibalizer | Piet: we use a spec process | 23:11 |
| nibalizer | so propose a spec to openstack-infra/infra-specs | 23:11 |
| nibalizer | through gerrit | 23:11 |
| anteaya | right | 23:11 |
| anteaya | Piet doesn't gerrit | 23:12 |
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| anteaya | he never has and asking him to will honestly probably close the door on him | 23:12 |
| anteaya | my opinion | 23:12 |
| clarkb | so I don't think we should set up a roundabout one off process for one contributor | 23:12 |
| anteaya | Piet: does ux | 23:12 |
| anteaya | he doesn't command line | 23:12 |
| anteaya | he is the ux ptl | 23:13 |
| clarkb | you don't need to command line | 23:13 |
| clarkb | if there are problems with the current tool we should address them "but I don't use the command line" isn't really something we can fix | 23:13 |
| anteaya | Piet: this is clarkb | 23:13 |
| anteaya | clarkb: Piet | 23:13 |
| anteaya | Piet: clark would like to understand your situation better | 23:14 |
| anteaya | Piet: please explain if you could | 23:14 |
| clarkb | https://wiki.eclipse.org/Gerrit#Using_Gerrit_with_EGit | 23:15 |
| clarkb | for one command line alternative | 23:15 |
| nibalizer | clarkb: thats looks good to me | 23:16 |
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| anteaya | the etherpad looks good to me clarkb | 23:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: format reno section of release notes more nicely https://review.openstack.org/255527 | 23:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: add URLs from links to the text output https://review.openstack.org/255528 | 23:21 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: if we're really at a place where we need a transcriber then we need to figure out the problem causing that | 23:23 |
| anteaya | piet is a visual person | 23:23 |
| anteaya | I've seen him and talked to him | 23:23 |
| anteaya | handing him a list of instructions that would make sense to command line folks doesn't make any sense to him | 23:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Sachi King proposed openstack-dev/pbr: Handle markers to support sdist on pip < 6 https://review.openstack.org/253289 | 23:24 |
| anteaya | brillant person in his element | 23:24 |
| anteaya | which is ux | 23:24 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yes that is why I have offered an alternative | 23:24 |
| anteaya | sure | 23:24 |
| gmmaha | hi, might i bother someone to help me check this log ? the error it seems to fail with indicates some file missing on the server & my patch didnt touch any of that. https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-swift-tox-func/1348/consoleText | 23:24 |
| clarkb | you can interact iwth gerrit without using the command line | 23:24 |
| anteaya | clarkb: I understand | 23:24 |
| anteaya | I hope Piet comes back and shares his thoughts | 23:25 |
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| nibalizer | crinkle: mordred i've been able to boot a node and ping/ssh it ! | 23:25 |
| nibalizer | unfortunately, it isn't taking my ssh key but thats likely my fault or cloud-inits fault or the images fault | 23:25 |
| nibalizer | but booting/networking is working in infra-cloud which is sweet | 23:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Ramy Asselin proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add support for extra elastic-search graph filter https://review.openstack.org/255585 | 23:26 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: yay | 23:26 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: thats not true | 23:26 |
| anteaya | what is not true? | 23:26 |
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| clarkb | gmmaha: I believe its supposed to cop that file but I am readin the script now | 23:28 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: thanks a lot | 23:28 |
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| nibalizer | anteaya: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224923/ ? | 23:28 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: I wrote that | 23:29 |
| anteaya | on his laptop | 23:29 |
| anteaya | read the comments | 23:29 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/scripts/run-tox.sh#n37 it either copies the file for converts it, but according to your job log neither was present | 23:29 |
| anteaya | he is the owner of one other patch in gerrit, travisT wrote it also on piet's workstation | 23:29 |
| anteaya | he can however comment on a patch | 23:30 |
| anteaya | as you can see, he did write the comment, not the patch | 23:30 |
| jeblair | i can not see that he did not write the patch | 23:30 |
| anteaya | Anita built the patch for me | 23:31 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: is swift using testr yet? | 23:31 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: ohh.. :) | 23:31 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: this patch is to set it up to use ostestr | 23:31 |
| anteaya | I was on his computer | 23:31 |
| gmmaha | well its a dependent patch for that to help suppress some logging from the swift servers | 23:31 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: ok then that patch is probably not complete because the subunit file is not getting written properly | 23:31 |
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| clarkb | gmmaha: there should be a .testrepository/0 or a .testrepository/0.2 | 23:31 |
| clarkb | depending on the version of the output | 23:31 |
| gmmaha | let me check on my machine | 23:32 |
| anteaya | it was the evening of an hp internal opensource event, where I told him about extra-atcs | 23:32 |
| anteaya | it was the thursday after the qa mid-cycle | 23:32 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: i have a .testrepository/0 | 23:32 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: remember when I kept you waiting in the cafeteria because I was helping Piet? | 23:32 |
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| gmmaha | clarkb: is there a way we can check the job's repo ? I am guessing it gets blown away right after the build | 23:33 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: who could forget. While I was sitting there I saw some mice run across the cafeteria | 23:33 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: I didn't know about the mice, or did you tell me and I forgot | 23:33 |
| anteaya | and I met Piet's labrador retriever | 23:34 |
| anteaya | then mtreinish and travisT and myself went out for subs | 23:34 |
| mtreinish | I don't remember if I mentioned it or not | 23:34 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: yes they are all single use VMs | 23:34 |
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| anteaya | mtreinish: I don't remember mice | 23:34 |
| nibalizer | so Piet can't or won't gerrit going forward? | 23:34 |
| anteaya | mtreinish: I do remember feeling bad because it took so long, and you were so patient waiting in the cafeteria, thank you | 23:34 |
| nibalizer | I don't understand the issue | 23:35 |
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| gmmaha | clarkb: ohh. | 23:35 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: he doesn't know how | 23:35 |
| gmmaha | not sure how i can test it out | 23:35 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: I wonder if its actually failing to run properly and not writing those files | 23:35 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: if you want to take the time to teach him, he isn't closed to the idea | 23:35 |
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| clarkb | gmmaha: can you rm -rf .testrepository and try run it again locally? | 23:36 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: okie. thats what i was trying and its happening now. | 23:36 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: but he hasn't before and doesn't work with tools in which this workflow would give him any vocabulary to build on | 23:36 |
| gmmaha | will confirm in a bit what the status is | 23:36 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: the issue is this is not how his mind works | 23:36 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: oh I know what the issue is I think | 23:36 |
| clarkb | hrm except the parent patch passed | 23:37 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: is that the descriptor leak. i have seen that in my old jenkkins setups | 23:37 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: so getting him to use gerrit is more than just here are the instructions | 23:37 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: descriptor leak? | 23:37 |
| clarkb | oh the file desriptor leak? no thats benign and just noise | 23:37 |
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| gmmaha | Process leaked file descriptors. See http://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Spawning+processes+from+build for more information | 23:38 |
| gmmaha | Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure | 23:38 |
| gmmaha | aah ok :) | 23:38 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: as an example I have spent time working with family members with dyslexia | 23:38 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: when working wtih someone with dyslexia you can't just hand them things and say do this | 23:38 |
| clarkb | gmmaha: its just saying you made files outside the workspace which is normal if you do anything like write to /tmp | 23:39 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: you have to listen and understand how they process information | 23:39 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: aah ok. thanks | 23:39 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: then work to give them information in a way they can process it | 23:39 |
| anteaya | not saying this is dyslexia, saying different people's brains process information different ways | 23:39 |
| gmmaha | clarkb: okie. i have one failure when i run it locally on my setup | 23:39 |
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| clarkb | anteaya: right, I think we can appreciate that not everyone works the same. The issue is that "I don't use the command line so I don't use gerrit" doesn't lead to actionable positive change | 23:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: what change do you want to see here/ | 23:40 |
| anteaya | ? | 23:40 |
| anteaya | because for me my time helping piet is doing as I offered | 23:40 |
| nibalizer | me too | 23:40 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I would like to see Piet (and everyone else) be able to use the tools we use. | 23:40 |
| anteaya | understanding what he wants to say and putting it in a patch for him | 23:40 |
| anteaya | clarkb: great | 23:40 |
| clarkb | that does not mean we should have gerrit proxy humans | 23:41 |
| anteaya | clarkb: if you want to teach him I support that | 23:41 |
| anteaya | fine | 23:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: Update cloud contributors doc https://review.openstack.org/255582 | 23:41 |
| anteaya | that is my offer and I stand by it | 23:41 |
| clarkb | if there are deficiencies in Gerrit they need to be explained, etc | 23:41 |
| anteaya | sure | 23:41 |
| anteaya | if you want to take the time to do that with Piet I have no argument | 23:41 |
| clarkb | I am always happy to help people work thorugh problems interacting with Gerrit | 23:42 |
| anteaya | great | 23:42 |
| anteaya | well he disappeared at the mention of it | 23:42 |
| anteaya | hopefully he will return and share his thoughts | 23:42 |
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| anteaya | so we can see how he feels | 23:42 |
| clarkb | mordred has pointed out that bluebox is having some trouble with nodepool | 23:43 |
| clarkb | I am currently tailing the debug log to see if I can see wat is going on | 23:44 |
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| gmmaha | clarkb: i am getting a single test failure also on my side but it seems erratic. a test taht passed last time is now showing as failing (under .testrepository/failing) | 23:45 |
| gmmaha | let me dig into it more.. thanks for the help | 23:45 |
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| clarkb | OpenStackCloudException: Could not determine capabilities (Inner Exception: No tenant specified) appears to be the blue box issue | 23:49 |
| clarkb | no tenant specified to swift auth? | 23:49 |
| clarkb | during upload image | 23:50 |
| clarkb | hrm maybe that unrelated, (but also an issue_ | 23:50 |
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| clarkb | ah yup Exception: Timeout waiting for ssh access is the actual problem looks like | 23:50 |
| clarkb | jlk jeblair mordred ^ seems to be ssh timeout issues post boot with the bluebox cloud and nodepool | 23:51 |
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| clarkb | now to see what the image upload fail was | 23:52 |
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| clarkb | I think the image upload was against rax-ord which makes sense since its the swift task thing | 23:54 |
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| clarkb | so lets ignore that for now | 23:54 |
| clarkb | jlk: anything I cna do to help debug that more? I can get uuids and ip addrs from the log | 23:54 |
| clarkb | 169.45.71.79 and f69cf053-606d-40d9-acb7-731a991b9184 | 23:55 |
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| jlk | is this reliably happening? | 23:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Basic logging https://review.openstack.org/255596 | 23:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/glean: Handle different paths to glean.sh https://review.openstack.org/255597 | 23:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed openstack/requirements: Updated gabbi to 1.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/255598 | 23:58 |
| clarkb | jlk: 623 times since the log was rotated (haven't confirmed all are bluebox yet) | 23:59 |
| ianw | greghaynes / clarkb / fungi : ^ glean path detection ... urgh i know but should work | 23:59 |
| jlk | clarkb: ugh, you'll probably best off getting a support ticket opened. I'm not going to be a reliable POC on this | 23:59 |
| jlk | Might be able to convince Jason Kennedy to open one though | 23:59 |
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