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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Add ability to configure nova quota https://review.openstack.org/281770 | 00:06 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add hpuseast public certificate to public hiera https://review.openstack.org/282910 | 00:16 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add definition for controller hpuseast https://review.openstack.org/260018 | 00:23 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add Infra Cloud compute node definition https://review.openstack.org/260022 | 01:02 |
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mordred | fungi: ++ | 01:05 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add definition for controller hpuseast https://review.openstack.org/260018 | 01:16 |
rcarrillocruz | so, on the various clouds, my understanding is that we have two projects: 'openstackci' for long-standing servers, 'openstackjenkins' for nodepool. Working on automating that creation for the infra-cloud i see two options: a) use puppet keystone_tenant resource and put two stanzas for each project on the infra-cloud controllers site.pp: b) create an ansible role to create the projects and a play using that role with the infra-cloud controller | 01:18 |
rcarrillocruz | i'm thinking b) could be reused for spinning new cloud providers we would get down the road | 01:19 |
rcarrillocruz | but a) just does the work for infra-cloud | 01:19 |
rcarrillocruz | mordred, jeblair: thoughts? | 01:19 |
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rcarrillocruz | hmm, tho i doubt you get creds to happily create projects on public cloud providers | 01:23 |
rcarrillocruz | i'll put on puppet for infra-cloud for now | 01:23 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental-bindep-jobs to other-requirements users https://review.openstack.org/282887 | 01:24 |
crinkle | I think using puppet to manage users/projects is the right way to go | 01:24 |
rcarrillocruz | oh crinkle | 01:25 |
rcarrillocruz | hiya :-) | 01:25 |
rcarrillocruz | you already around in Ft Collins | 01:25 |
rcarrillocruz | ? | 01:25 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: you can totally create projects in several public openstack clouds | 01:25 |
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mordred | rcarrillocruz: although that is not a permission that we have in our current public clouds | 01:26 |
crinkle | rcarrillocruz: yep! you? | 01:26 |
yolanda | hi mordred, i have a long list of changes tagged infra-cloud, waiting for your love :) | 01:26 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add infracloud east to puppetmaster clouds https://review.openstack.org/282920 | 01:26 |
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rcarrillocruz | crinkle: yep, arrived ysterday | 01:26 |
yolanda | hi crinkle | 01:26 |
mordred | crinkle, rcarrillocruz: I'd actually like to suggest we consider a little bit of a hybrid approach | 01:27 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 non-voting jobs for tacker projects https://review.openstack.org/282634 | 01:27 |
crinkle | o/ | 01:27 |
rcarrillocruz | mordred: yeah, my point about infra getting creds to do so... | 01:27 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: that's just because those clouds are needlessly limiting what their end users can do | 01:27 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: it's a very normal (or should be) thing for people to be able to create users and projects inside of a domain | 01:28 |
mordred | as non-admins of the cloud | 01:28 |
rcarrillocruz | nod | 01:28 |
rcarrillocruz | what you mean by hybrid approach mordred | 01:28 |
rcarrillocruz | ? | 01:28 |
mordred | in any case - I think we have two classes of cloud resources: things that are admin "we run the cloud" resources - and things that are user "we consume the cloud" resources | 01:28 |
mordred | the end user resources - like servers and images - are things that we currently manage by hand but are getting closer to managing with ansible | 01:29 |
mordred | the admin resources are ones that we manage via puppet because we use puppet to manage the clouds | 01:29 |
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mordred | SO - there is a good conversation to be had about users/projects - especially since we can actually run our cloud without disabling things in the policy - meaning that we as admins can give us as users a domain-admin acccount that we as users could use to create the openstackci and openstackjenkins projects | 01:31 |
mordred | but since none of our other clouds currently give us that ability, it could also be seen as needlessly complex | 01:31 |
mordred | which is to say - I think we should talk about it for real when we're in the room together on wednesday once I get there | 01:31 |
yolanda | mordred, actually for long lived servers we only have rax right now .. | 01:32 |
mordred | yolanda: that's not true | 01:32 |
yolanda | we have more_ | 01:32 |
yolanda | ? | 01:32 |
mordred | yolanda: we have long lived servers now in every cloud region | 01:32 |
mordred | mirrors | 01:32 |
rcarrillocruz | mirrors afs | 01:32 |
rcarrillocruz | k | 01:32 |
rcarrillocruz | so | 01:32 |
rcarrillocruz | for now | 01:32 |
yolanda | mm, and we reuse same cloud ? i was checking clouds.yaml and i only saw the ci naming for rax | 01:32 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: for now I think crinkle is right and we should manage the users/projects with puppet | 01:33 |
rcarrillocruz | i'll put down the project creation of the infra-cloud with puppet keystone_tenant | 01:33 |
rcarrillocruz | will write ansible role for mirror afs creation | 01:33 |
rcarrillocruz | ++ | 01:33 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: but I'd like to have a longer conversation about what our non-manual consuption strategy is for cloud resources | 01:33 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: since I tink you and I are on the same page that we'd like for those to be driven by ansible - and now that we're on puppet apply that makes way more sense to start poking at | 01:34 |
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rcarrillocruz | i'm all ears on working on the cloud launcher portion of infra-ansible | 01:34 |
rcarrillocruz | been adding more stuff lately | 01:34 |
mordred | but if we have servers done that way, i'd also like to have playbooks for other end-user things we need as consumers - and since we don't have puppet doing things with other consume cloud accounts | 01:34 |
rcarrillocruz | network | 01:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove experimental jobs *-with-oslo-master https://review.openstack.org/282888 | 01:34 |
rcarrillocruz | subnets | 01:34 |
rcarrillocruz | keys | 01:34 |
rcarrillocruz | etc | 01:34 |
mordred | I think finding the right balance is necessary | 01:34 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: yes. exactly | 01:35 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: for instance, we created the users and projects in our bluebox cloud by hand - that's actually really something that shoudl be in a playbook | 01:35 |
rcarrillocruz | which makes me wonder the thought i had the other day about splitting that project and putting the cloud launcher as a separate git project | 01:35 |
rcarrillocruz | dunno | 01:35 |
rcarrillocruz | mordred: yeah, that's bad | 01:35 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: yup. but also simple enough that solving it so far has not been a priority :) | 01:36 |
prometheanfire | mordred: mind looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282193/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281960/ :D | 01:36 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental bindep jobs for manuals https://review.openstack.org/282854 | 01:36 |
mordred | rcarrillocruz: so let's definitely find time for this conversation on wednesday, yeah? | 01:36 |
prometheanfire | forget if you are DIB core, seem to remember it | 01:36 |
mordred | prometheanfire: I do not mind - but I have no useful review powers in that project, so I'm not as helpful as you might want | 01:36 |
rcarrillocruz | ++ | 01:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Move Neutron Grenade multi from experimental to check queue https://review.openstack.org/282428 | 01:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix rally skip rules https://review.openstack.org/281665 | 01:41 |
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prometheanfire | mordred: thanks anyway :D | 01:43 |
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clarkb | infra sprinters I will provably hit the original pancake house for breakfast at about 7:30am tomorrow morning | 01:52 |
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clarkb | also do we need the shuttle if at hilton? looks like a 10-15 minute walk? | 01:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Rename networking-ovn job https://review.openstack.org/282412 | 02:11 |
fungi | settled into hotel room | 02:11 |
fungi | clarkb: i hear rumors that while walking distance, not safely walkable (maybe crosses freeway?!?) | 02:12 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: fix building on gentoo hosts https://review.openstack.org/282193 | 02:12 |
clarkb | you do have to cross harmony and ziegler but then it looks like pathways | 02:13 |
clarkb | harmony and ziegler look like marked crosswalks with a light | 02:13 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions https://review.openstack.org/281960 | 02:13 |
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fungi | i am not opposed to giving that a shot | 02:14 |
fungi | but i'm also fond of brisk walks in the morning chill to help wake me up | 02:14 |
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prometheanfire | ianw: thanks :D | 02:15 |
clarkb | ya can decide after pancakes | 02:15 |
crinkle | google streetview makes it look walkable | 02:18 |
ianw | prometheanfire: before ci gets too far, could you please my nit of Capitalisation of subject | 02:18 |
fungi | yeah, i think the "3 miles" on the wiki must be inefficient driving distance not sidewalk distance | 02:18 |
fungi | i'm certainly game | 02:19 |
prometheanfire | on which? | 02:19 |
prometheanfire | ianw: ^ | 02:19 |
prometheanfire | the fix one methinks | 02:19 |
ianw | prometheanfire: you change that doesn't start with a capital letter? | 02:19 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix building on gentoo hosts https://review.openstack.org/282193 | 02:20 |
prometheanfire | done | 02:20 |
prometheanfire | using caps and punctuation is hard, I tend to avoid it :P | 02:20 |
fungi | alsospaces | 02:20 |
prometheanfire | yawhoneedsspaces | 02:21 |
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fungi | clarkb: wow, that original pancake house really is almost just in the hotel parking lot. good call | 02:37 |
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Thelo | Hi all, I am getting some issue with my CI, to do simple it fails to stack because it cannot fulfill one requirements pbr>=1.8 (http://128.199.204.149//$LOG_PATH/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz) When I check the library repository (http://pypi.dfw.openstack.org/simple/pbr/) it shows thant the service is unavailable. | 02:49 |
Thelo | Has anyone faced this? or does anyone know a workaround for this? | 02:50 |
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clarkb | Thelo: that pypi mirror was deleted | 03:00 |
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Thelo | clarkb: So what should I do? Am I the only one to face this problem? | 03:01 |
StevenK | Thelo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-February/003837.html has pointers | 03:02 |
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Thelo | StevenK, clarkb: Got it thanks | 03:03 |
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pabelanger | rookie mistake, left USB cable at home | 03:32 |
nibalizer | pabelanger: i have an extra if you are staying in the hilton | 03:33 |
pabelanger | Yup, at hilton gardon | 03:33 |
pabelanger | garden* | 03:33 |
pabelanger | heading down to lobby for a bit | 03:33 |
nibalizer | now? i'll bring you a cable | 03:33 |
pabelanger | Yup | 03:34 |
nibalizer | kk | 03:34 |
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prometheanfire | ianw: I'll update the commit message to be more clear why I'm using xargs | 04:06 |
prometheanfire | it's a useful way of removing prefixed spaces is all | 04:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: fix building on gentoo hosts https://review.openstack.org/282193 | 04:11 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions https://review.openstack.org/281960 | 04:11 |
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prometheanfire | also, I'm not sure where environment.d is documented, but it seems to run outside of chroot | 04:23 |
prometheanfire | and found the docs, somewhat | 04:25 |
openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Allow overwriting destination_prefix for swift https://review.openstack.org/262112 | 04:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: fix building on gentoo hosts https://review.openstack.org/282193 | 04:44 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions https://review.openstack.org/281960 | 04:45 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix building on gentoo hosts https://review.openstack.org/282193 | 04:45 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix building on gentoo hosts https://review.openstack.org/282193 | 04:49 |
prometheanfire | ianw: think that's it, thanks for the review, wouldn't have fixed the actual problem without it :D | 04:49 |
openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Gentoo to the list of supported distributions https://review.openstack.org/281960 | 04:50 |
AJaeger | Thelo, please do not use our mirrors, they are internal. you can use pypi directly | 04:50 |
prometheanfire | AJaeger: if they are internal, why can they be accessed publicly (assuming that's what's happening) | 04:50 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Remove check-deletions from openstack-manuals https://review.openstack.org/281097 | 04:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: support 2.0 branch telemetry jobs https://review.openstack.org/282511 | 04:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Derive LIBS_FROM_GIT from ZUUL_CHANGES https://review.openstack.org/282949 | 04:59 |
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gus | I believe that^ "fixes" Depends-On, fwiw. | 05:02 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Lees proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Derive LIBS_FROM_GIT from ZUUL_CHANGES https://review.openstack.org/282949 | 05:06 |
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Thelo | AJaeger: Which ones are your mirrors? you mean those with *openstack.org? | 05:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Victor Morales proposed openstack/requirements: Add schemadisplay-sphinx to global requirements https://review.openstack.org/281880 | 05:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translation job scripts support multiple python modules https://review.openstack.org/280711 | 05:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Akihiro Motoki proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Translation job scripts support multiple python modules https://review.openstack.org/280711 | 06:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable translation for senlin https://review.openstack.org/282957 | 06:03 |
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ianw | prometheanfire: thank you. that is a fine level of detail for a change. just a couple of minutes spent getting thoughts together like that can save us all a lot of time in the long run | 06:25 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/282835 | 06:35 |
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prometheanfire | ianw: ya, it's more of a bad habbit for me, I need to be knocked back when it happens :P | 06:38 |
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prometheanfire | it seems that envvars get passed in though, so running outside of the chroot is kinda fine? | 06:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/lodgeit: Fix alert message shown when cookie is removed https://review.openstack.org/258359 | 06:49 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/lodgeit: Remove unused image file https://review.openstack.org/258849 | 06:50 |
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AJaeger | Thelo: Yes, I mean do not use the openstack.org mirrors, use pypi.python.org instead. | 06:57 |
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AJaeger | fungi: your change 281430 for swift is running since 55 hours now - currently building gate-swift-pypy-bindep | 07:24 |
mikal | Are there known issues with jenkins at the moment? | 07:25 |
mikal | I get changes which fail the gate with failed pep8 runs (for example), where there is no log posted | 07:25 |
mikal | An example is http://logs.openstack.org/88/276088/5/check/gate-nova-pep8/245285b/ | 07:25 |
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AJaeger | mikal: those are older runs, we believe the issue you see is fixed | 07:26 |
mikal | AJaeger: that run finished 10 minutes ago | 07:27 |
mikal | Oh wait, no it didn't | 07:27 |
AJaeger | mikal: if you see it on today's runs, please tell me. | 07:27 |
mikal | Wrong day | 07:27 |
mikal | Ok, so a recheck is the way to go? | 07:27 |
AJaeger | mikal: yes, "recheck" | 07:27 |
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AJaeger | fungi, the manuals bindep jobs work all succeeded. I'm ready to switch - but have one question on how to handle gate-{name}-tox-{envlist}-bindep. We can use manuals as guinea-pig if you like, it's on a smaller scale than all the python jobs. But based on my results, I'm fine going ahead with your change first as well. | 07:48 |
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AJaeger | jeblair, fungi: hit a git timeout - but this time after cloning from cache with z-c: http://logs.openstack.org/78/282978/1/check/gate-api-site-tox-checkniceness/920e9f9/console.html | 07:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Stefan Andres proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix lookup for network parameter in neutron_available_floating_ips https://review.openstack.org/280178 | 08:20 |
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BobBall | In pip, is there a way to blacklist a particular file? A weird rackspace-novaclient version has been uploaded to pypi for macosx which is failing for me because I'm not using macosx - yet pip will always select it. | 09:34 |
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mrmartin | morning | 09:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add rpm-packaging team meeting https://review.openstack.org/279950 | 10:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable py/py3 and docs jobs for renderspec https://review.openstack.org/283036 | 11:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Upgrade 'marked' and 'highlightjs' libraries https://review.openstack.org/282871 | 11:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Han Manjong proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add solum-dashboard project in solum job https://review.openstack.org/283040 | 11:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Ironic stable branches broken by incorrect variable https://review.openstack.org/283042 | 11:29 |
dtantsur | hey, folks! please check this patch ^^ it fixes ironic stable branches | 11:29 |
AJaeger | dtantsur: indeed. Sorry for not catching this during review | 11:31 |
dtantsur | np, thanks for reviewing | 11:32 |
openstackgerrit | Aliaksandr Buhayeu proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Adds possibility to retrieve all jobs from the view specified https://review.openstack.org/279750 | 11:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Joakim Löfgren proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Fix issue with non-ascii characters in get_job_md5 https://review.openstack.org/283050 | 12:00 |
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jaypipes | AJaeger, clarkb, fungi, jeblair, asselin: quick question... when adding a new project to project-config, how do I indicate to import the code from some github repository? or is that no longer something we should indicate? | 12:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project https://review.openstack.org/283061 | 12:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Stefan Andres proposed openstack-infra/shade: Fix lookup for network parameter in neutron_available_floating_ips https://review.openstack.org/280178 | 13:02 |
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anteaya | jaypipes: use upstream: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/commit/?id=757445e7b6c486c494d3cf9deb8e793dc0aa348e | 13:10 |
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anteaya | jaypipes: it is removed regularly since it is only used on initial project creation | 13:10 |
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aspiers | I can't find any docs on how to add a <project>-specs repo to a project - am I being dumb? | 13:21 |
aspiers | or is it the same as adding any other repo? I found https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79363/6 and wondering if that's a decent example to follow | 13:21 |
aspiers | I only found http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#working-on-specifications-and-blueprints | 13:21 |
openstackgerrit | Mauro Rodrigues proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Make TEMPEST_OS_TEST_TIMEOUT configurable https://review.openstack.org/283077 | 13:21 |
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aspiers | but that's more from the contributors' perspectives, not the driver's | 13:22 |
mordred | BobBall: you can say != ... like 'happybase>=0.5,!=0.7' | 13:23 |
mordred | BobBall: although I'd also suggest that you just use python-novaclient - it works great connecting to rackspace | 13:23 |
anteaya | morning mordred | 13:24 |
mordred | morning anteaya ! | 13:24 |
anteaya | you are up early I see | 13:24 |
Zara | Hi, could someone help us set up a dev server for storyboard? There are ansible things at https://galaxy.ansible.com/detail#/role/6187 and puppety things at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard | 13:24 |
anteaya | Zara: thank you | 13:24 |
anteaya | mordred: was thinking a play env for storyboard might not be a bad idea | 13:24 |
anteaya | sorry I didn't think of it last week | 13:24 |
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anteaya | this is where some helpful British person tells me in detail the benefits of the bus I just missed | 13:25 |
mordred | anteaya: it probably has a second story | 13:26 |
anteaya | the bus I just missed? | 13:26 |
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mordred | anteaya: well, if it's a description of a bus by a british person | 13:27 |
anteaya | oh yes, it is luxiourious that bus | 13:27 |
anteaya | very much so | 13:27 |
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anteaya | on time, plush seats | 13:27 |
anteaya | express to exactly my destination | 13:27 |
mordred | anteaya: and yes, I am up early - I'm in Vegas but on Dallas itme | 13:27 |
anteaya | why are you in vegas? | 13:27 |
mordred | you seem to be describing a limo | 13:27 |
mordred | anteaya: I am here for IBM Interconnect | 13:27 |
anteaya | were you not aiming for fort collins | 13:27 |
anteaya | oh | 13:27 |
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anteaya | I had mistakenly believed you would be attending infra mid-cycle | 13:28 |
anteaya | not sure where I got that idea then | 13:28 |
mordred | later today I will do a panel with Sam Ramji of Cloud Foundry where we will discuss the lovely topic of "are we headed for foundation fatigue" | 13:28 |
mordred | anteaya: I will be attending the infra mid-cycle | 13:28 |
anteaya | ohhhh | 13:28 |
anteaya | that sounds like fun | 13:28 |
jaypipes | anteaya: thx! | 13:28 |
mordred | I will just not be attending the infra mid-cycle today | 13:28 |
anteaya | jaypipes: welcome | 13:28 |
anteaya | mordred: ah | 13:28 |
mordred | jaypipes: I would like to veto vif-plug-hw-veb purely because I'm pretty sure that's just a random collection of letters you grouped to be funny | 13:29 |
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anteaya | ha ha ha | 13:29 |
jaypipes | mordred: :) | 13:29 |
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anteaya | scrabble tile scramble | 13:29 |
anteaya | mordred: have fun with the panel discussion | 13:31 |
anteaya | I am going to continue to do morning get ready to go outside kind of things | 13:31 |
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anteaya | moon will be full in about an hour or so | 13:34 |
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persia | bother. I'm on the wrong side of the planet to enjoy that properly | 13:36 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project https://review.openstack.org/283061 | 13:37 |
jaypipes | anteaya: done. ^ thx again :) | 13:37 |
anteaya | jaypipes: welcome | 13:37 |
anteaya | persia: the problems of living on a sphere | 13:37 |
anteaya | according to a prior blog post I wrote on virgo moon phases, I stated at the time I posted that full moon in virgo represents worship through mentoring: http://whitefeatherastrology.com/blog/2012/06/20/virgo-moon-cycle/ | 13:38 |
anteaya | no idea why I feel like sharing that today, but there you go | 13:38 |
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AJaeger | aspiers: it's the same as every other repo, thus documented at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html - example: Id70ff11894d1ad1d5ed6e0c5abd383e83f28a6e5 | 13:44 |
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AJaeger | aspiers: what do you want to add? | 13:45 |
aspiers | what you just said | 13:46 |
aspiers | since it's not obvious, unless you already know | 13:46 |
aspiers | also I think it should be mentioned in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#working-on-specifications-and-blueprints | 13:46 |
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AJaeger | I don't think it should be mentioned there - complete different audience. | 13:47 |
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aspiers | it's the same audience surely | 13:48 |
aspiers | any developer might want to add a -specs repo to the project | 13:48 |
aspiers | also that's the only place I could find which explains how -specs repos are used | 13:49 |
AJaeger | not not any developer should - it's a project decision ;) | 13:49 |
aspiers | the decision gets made by the project reviewers | 13:49 |
AJaeger | one not is enough ;) | 13:49 |
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aspiers | that shouldn't mean the project reviewers have to submit the change | 13:50 |
aspiers | unless there's a risk they could bypass the project core team | 13:50 |
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aspiers | well, if you think there's a better place to document, please let me know where | 13:50 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix Ironic stable branches broken by incorrect variable https://review.openstack.org/283042 | 13:50 |
aspiers | http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html I guess | 13:51 |
aspiers | but that would warrant a new subsection regarding specs IMHO | 13:51 |
aspiers | which is fine | 13:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add solum-dashboard project in solum job https://review.openstack.org/283040 | 13:51 |
aspiers | but it's not a *completely* different audience, there's some overlap for sure | 13:51 |
aspiers | maintainers are also developers | 13:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable translation for senlin https://review.openstack.org/282957 | 13:53 |
fungi | aspiers: what would you add differently about specs repositories in that document? | 13:53 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add broadview-collector project https://review.openstack.org/282365 | 13:53 |
fungi | or are you just wanting a sentence that says "this information also applies to specs repositories, since they are also git repositories" | 13:53 |
fungi | and then "this information also applies to documentation repositories, since they are also git repositories" | 13:54 |
fungi | and so on | 13:54 |
AJaeger | morning fungi! Did you read my comments in the backlog? Swift is now tested for 61 hours in the experimental queue | 13:54 |
fungi | AJaeger: yep, saw that. will kill that job in a bit | 13:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add Ironic Role to OpenStack-Ansible https://review.openstack.org/282314 | 13:55 |
AJaeger | fungi, aspiers : Or a sentence in the Creator's Guide: Use this whether you add a complete project or a single new repo to your project - which is there somehow but might be stated differently | 13:56 |
fungi | oh, fun, that job is running over and over, not simply hung | 13:56 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Make Ironic VM memory and count configurable https://review.openstack.org/281484 | 13:56 |
AJaeger | aspiers: for me the two pages are: This is for using the setup as is - this is for enhancing it ;) | 13:56 |
AJaeger | fungi: yeah, testing-pypy-endlessly-as-a-service ;) | 13:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add docs-on-rtfd hook for fuel-noop-fixtures project https://review.openstack.org/281266 | 13:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard: Update User Docs https://review.openstack.org/281898 | 13:59 |
aspiers | fungi: yes, that would suffice I think. the point is that it's not obvious to outsiders that -specs or -docs repo are *just* git repos | 13:59 |
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aspiers | fungi, AJaeger: before I was told, I expected there was probably some extra magic | 14:00 |
fungi | aspiers: seems more appropriate to add to the project-team guide in that case. we want to make fewer "outsiders" | 14:00 |
aspiers | fungi: fine by me | 14:00 |
fungi | the project-team guide is for turning outsiders into insiders, and if it doesn't already have sections talking about hos openstack projects maintain documentation, specifications and such in git repositories using the same workflow as other software they develop, then that seems like a good thing to add | 14:01 |
aspiers | right | 14:01 |
fungi | s/hos/how/ | 14:01 |
aspiers | actually, it seems it's *not* just as simple as adding the repo | 14:01 |
aspiers | AJaeger quoted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273830/1 as an example of how to do it, but that only adds the repo to the specs.yaml index | 14:02 |
aspiers | the full process also requires creation of the repo | 14:02 |
aspiers | so now I wonder if the repo creation and adding to specs.yaml can be done at the same time, or does one have to be done before the other? | 14:02 |
fungi | sure, that change is updating the top-level index on the specs.openstack.org site and is not actually necessary for basic specs workflow | 14:02 |
aspiers | that's the kind of detail which is worth having documented | 14:03 |
aspiers | I'd imagine there's some equivalent magic for docs.openstack.org too? | 14:03 |
fungi | there's equivalent magic for everything in the openstack community. those are relatively small examples honestly. they could probably stand to be documented somewhere, but as tome point we're likely to collapse under the weight of our workflow documentation | 14:04 |
aspiers | if they were added in the same review, maybe that would open a race window during which the repo is not yet created and specs.openstack.org contains a broken link? | 14:04 |
fungi | s/tome/some/ | 14:04 |
aspiers | haha :) | 14:04 |
aspiers | well I'm happy to take a stab at documenting these in project-team-guide. I imagine it would be a very small change | 14:05 |
fungi | and yeah, generally updating the index before you have a usable specs repo is probaly going to cause there to be a broken link, though i don't know that's particularly problematic | 14:05 |
aspiers | right | 14:06 |
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fungi | project-team guide is probably the place to say that documentation and specifications are maintained in git repositories, but the infra manual is probably the place to have the actual implementation details documented | 14:06 |
aspiers | I'll submit an extra sentence or two - I guesss http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/open-development.html#specifications is the right section? | 14:06 |
aspiers | oh OK | 14:06 |
aspiers | thanks! | 14:06 |
fungi | looks like a great location to me | 14:06 |
aspiers | I'll do something for infra-manual too then | 14:07 |
fungi | thanks! | 14:07 |
aspiers | and then people are welcome to shoot my reviews down in flames ;-) thanks for the advice! | 14:07 |
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fungi | clarkb: i should be heading out in ~15 minutes if you're still shooting for 7:30 pancakes | 14:09 |
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clarkb | fungi: I am meet in the lobby in ~10 minuyes? | 14:15 |
fungi | k | 14:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Volodymyr Samotiy proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add broadview-ui project https://review.openstack.org/283101 | 14:18 |
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clarkb | pancakes closed on monday | 14:26 |
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jeblair | doh | 14:28 |
Clint | those are some irresponsible pancakes | 14:28 |
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crinkle | clarkb: aw so no pancakes? | 14:31 |
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AJaeger | aspiers: sorry, gave you wrong link - let me find a better example... | 14:33 |
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AJaeger | aspiers: Ic93bd186ca05b66c53dbd075ba9805d3a34381ac is a real example ;) | 14:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Changes odd-weeks doc team meeting to 2000 Wednesday https://review.openstack.org/271361 | 14:50 |
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openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix on missing getDisplay Method https://review.openstack.org/283111 | 14:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Changes odd-weeks doc team meeting to 1900 Wednesday https://review.openstack.org/271361 | 14:57 |
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anteaya | pleia2 and I are at the office and have found the meeting room | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Aliaksandr Buhayeu proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Adds possibility to retrieve all jobs from the view specified https://review.openstack.org/279750 | 15:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix on missing getDisplay Method https://review.openstack.org/283111 | 15:05 |
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openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Fixed SSL redirect filter https://review.openstack.org/283121 | 15:15 |
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pleia2 | coffee is being set up :) | 15:17 |
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anteaya | pleia2: yay coffee! | 15:18 |
Bobba | mordred: Thanks. I actually meant that I'm using pyrax which has their own dependency on rackspace-novaclient. I'm working on removing pyrax entirely, but in the meantime I couldn't install it because it was picking up the macosx rackspace-novaclient. | 15:18 |
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Bobba | mordred: I wanted a way to blacklist that specific version globally, but realised that if I just install a specific vn of rackspace-novaclient in my venv then the pip install of pyrax won't try and upgrade it to the broken macosx one | 15:18 |
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anteaya | Bobba: I'm seeing the results of your typing but all I can think is "Fett" | 15:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/openstackid-resources: Fixed SSL redirect filter https://review.openstack.org/283121 | 15:20 |
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anteaya | pleia2: Clint is here | 15:25 |
pleia2 | anteaya: if his badge working he can make his way back :) | 15:25 |
anteaya | I don't know that he knows where to go | 15:26 |
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clarkb | pleia2: I think a group of us may attempt walking over, is there a specific place we should be heading? | 15:27 |
clarkb | maybe that is on yhe wiki and I just meed to read better | 15:27 |
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pleia2 | clarkb: the building has the address on it, 3404 E Harmony Road (I dont' think it says "building 6" | 15:28 |
pleia2 | clarkb: so you can get there, and if an HPE person is with you they can get through security (otherwise they'll call me to collect people) | 15:28 |
fungi | yeah, it looks like we may have a contingent of ~9 going to give it a go on foot | 15:28 |
fungi | several are hpe people | 15:28 |
pleia2 | I got all the HPE people's badges added for this office last week | 15:28 |
pleia2 | mine worked, so woo | 15:28 |
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pleia2 | good luck with the walking :) | 15:29 |
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fungi | crinkle didn't bring her badge, rcarrillocruz says he hasn't used his in like 5 years so has no idea if it works... | 15:29 |
anteaya | do folks see a red pin on this map? https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.5262503,-105.01303/40.5259873,-105.0123112/@40.5260739,-105.0125137,19z | 15:30 |
anteaya | if yes aim for the red pin | 15:30 |
anteaya | it says 6 Technology parkway, I don't know why it says that | 15:31 |
pleia2 | well, security has my phone number if folks can't get in | 15:32 |
pleia2 | anteaya: did Clint get lost? :) | 15:32 |
anteaya | yes he did | 15:32 |
anteaya | but he found me eventually | 15:33 |
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pleia2 | anteaya: oh, is he still in the lobby there? | 15:33 |
anteaya | yes | 15:33 |
pleia2 | he should come back here :) | 15:33 |
anteaya | sitting with me | 15:33 |
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anteaya | I'm telling him you would like him | 15:34 |
anteaya | he is on his way | 15:34 |
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aspiers | AJaeger: yeah but that doesn't update specs.yaml :) | 15:35 |
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anteaya | okay so the third party meeting is over now | 15:39 |
anteaya | I have a car that can fit 4 additional people as well as myself | 15:39 |
anteaya | should I strike out and pick folks up? | 15:39 |
anteaya | clarkb fungi? | 15:39 |
AJaeger | aspiers: do the specs.yaml as an update once you have content ;) | 15:39 |
aspiers | AJaeger: I know; that's what I plan to document | 15:40 |
AJaeger | thanks, aspiers | 15:40 |
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matrohon | hi all | 15:42 |
pleia2 | anteaya: thanks, accounted for :) | 15:42 |
matrohon | I wanted to use a post-extra hook in our devstack plugin, I never get a post-extra call from devstack | 15:42 |
matrohon | does anyone use this kind of hook in devstack? | 15:43 |
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anteaya | pleia2: great | 15:44 |
AJaeger | matrohon: check project-config repo, directory jenkins/jobs - I didn't find a usage quickly but I'm not sure whether my regex was correct | 15:45 |
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matrohon | AJaeger, I'll do thanks | 15:46 |
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smarcet | fungi: morning, hope u are doing ok | 15:47 |
smarcet | fungi: any change to get the openstackid production instance logs from path app/storage/log | 15:48 |
smarcet | fungi: i am getting a 500 error on an page at the openstackid admin :) | 15:49 |
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pleia2 | anteaya plans on coming out into the lot to meet people and help find the way | 15:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project https://review.openstack.org/283061 | 15:56 |
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max_lobur | Hi All, I'm from bareon project, we're working on the functional testing for bareon CI https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bareon/+spec/bareon-functional-testing. To validate some of the cases we use a number of disk images (so-called golden images). Currently they are about 6Gb in total (3 image files). Once we start putting this to infra, is there a place to store such kind of data? | 15:57 |
max_lobur | I don't expect these images to grow, most likely we'll even shrink them to 2-3Gb | 15:57 |
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max_lobur | We basically need a space accessible from CI, to pull them in during test run. Or should we just put them to some external resource? | 16:00 |
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openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Send DEVSTACK_GATE_TEMPEST_REGEX to grenade jobs https://review.openstack.org/241044 | 16:10 |
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anteaya | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-infra-midcycle | 16:17 |
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fungi | thanks anteay! | 16:19 |
fungi | anteaya | 16:19 |
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anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints#Infra-Cloud_Sprint_Face_to_Face_Event | 16:26 |
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matjazp | hi all | 16:48 |
matjazp | I have a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+bug/1523570 | 16:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1523570 in OpenStack Training Guides "Bug external references in commit message is not working to reflect launchpad status" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:48 |
med_ | sprint is ON! | 16:48 |
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clarkb | btw no tenant specified errors on rax uploads and image builds seem to have failed | 16:50 |
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clarkb | looks like images failed on new projects not having repos configured in the mirror yet | 16:51 |
clarkb | so racing new project creation | 16:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/diskimage-builder: Revert "Correct rhel-common for rhel6" https://review.openstack.org/281551 | 16:57 |
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AJaeger | matjazp: what's the question? | 16:58 |
matjazp | AJaeger: why does it not work - status of the bugs are not automatically set | 16:59 |
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AJaeger | matjazp: show me a recent review, please | 16:59 |
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AJaeger | wait, I have an idea... | 17:00 |
matjazp | AJaeger: I don't remember if anything was changed in the mean time on the infra side? | 17:00 |
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matjazp | I searched for a place where to register a bug queue | 17:00 |
AJaeger | matjazp: project-config file gerrit/projects.yaml - see http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html#add-the-project-to-the-master-projects-list | 17:01 |
AJaeger | second note to step 3 | 17:01 |
AJaeger | you needs to add "groups" | 17:01 |
matjazp | aha, ok thanks | 17:02 |
AJaeger | matjazp: probably also for training-labs - or what is their bug queue? | 17:02 |
matjazp | hmmm.. something shorterlabs" | 17:02 |
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AJaeger | matjazp: let's ask dguitarbite, whether it's correct | 17:04 |
med_ | pleia2, crinkle, yolanda, et al at Infra sprint, there is also an OpenStack Meetup in Louisville Colorado about Containers for those with nothing better today on a night after sprinting for four days. Details here: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-Colorado/events/228594900/ | 17:05 |
matjazp | AJaeger: its /labs | 17:06 |
matjazp | https://launchpad.net/labs | 17:07 |
openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Use example.com for admin user https://review.openstack.org/283169 | 17:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraints for cliff 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/283173 | 17:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update oslo constraints for releases Feb 22 https://review.openstack.org/283174 | 17:13 |
kozhukalov | guys, please review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279074/ | 17:14 |
zaro | morning | 17:15 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Parameterize entries for neutron subnet https://review.openstack.org/266902 | 17:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Group Tasks By Status https://review.openstack.org/283183 | 17:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/requirements: Adds PyMI as a global-requirement https://review.openstack.org/279122 | 17:42 |
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AJaeger | matjazp: will you send a patch? | 17:50 |
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elmiko | hey all, do i need to make a bug before suggesting a patch to irc-meetings? (i forget) | 17:51 |
AJaeger | elmiko: just send a change | 17:53 |
elmiko | AJaeger: ack, thanks | 17:53 |
openstackgerrit | Michael McCune proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings: add agenda url to api-wg entry https://review.openstack.org/283191 | 17:53 |
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tmcpeak | hey all, Bandit has docs that we'd like to have hosted somewhere, are there any appropriate infra related places to put them? | 17:56 |
AJaeger | fungi, regarding bindep and manuals: Is this something you like to see moving forward this week or better postpone because of the sprint? | 17:56 |
AJaeger | tmcpeak: bandit is an official project, isn't it? | 17:56 |
tmcpeak | also we'd like to have them automatically updated whenever the docs change, so we'd probably need to have some magic in the gate that updates them | 17:56 |
tmcpeak | AJaeger: yep | 17:56 |
AJaeger | then docs.openstack.org/developer/bandit is your new home ;) | 17:56 |
tmcpeak | AJaeger: sweet! | 17:57 |
tmcpeak | how do we access that? | 17:57 |
AJaeger | tmcpeak: it even exists already ;) | 17:57 |
AJaeger | tmcpeak: so, what's your problem? ;) | 17:57 |
tmcpeak | haha | 17:57 |
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tmcpeak | I guess I didn't know anything about this | 17:57 |
tmcpeak | it looks… old | 17:57 |
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AJaeger | tmcpeak: you use in zuul/layout.yaml "openstack-server-publish-jobs" template | 17:57 |
tmcpeak | so how do I get new stuff here? can I scp something somewhere? | 17:57 |
AJaeger | and dthat publishes after each commit | 17:58 |
AJaeger | We run "python setup.py build_sphinx" and publish doc/build/html | 17:58 |
tmcpeak | AJaeger: awesome! somehow I figured you would all have something awesome set up already | 17:58 |
AJaeger | tmcpeak: whoever setup bandit did that ;) | 17:58 |
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tmcpeak | it's lost to history.. ok this is perfect, thank you | 17:58 |
openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Allow git review to set votes https://review.openstack.org/281504 | 17:58 |
AJaeger | tmcpeak: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html does not include bandit | 17:59 |
AJaeger | tmcpeak: you should add - send a patch for openstack-manuals/www/developer/openstack-projects.html | 17:59 |
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tmcpeak | ok cool | 18:00 |
tmcpeak | will do | 18:00 |
tmcpeak | AJaeger: thanks! | 18:00 |
matjazp | AJaeger: yes, thanks for the tip | 18:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui https://review.openstack.org/283202 | 18:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project https://review.openstack.org/283061 | 18:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui https://review.openstack.org/283202 | 18:24 |
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AJaeger | jaypipes: I meant jenkins/jobs/projects.yaml | 18:25 |
openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation https://review.openstack.org/282515 | 18:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Jay Pipes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adds vif-plug-hw-veb project https://review.openstack.org/283061 | 18:27 |
jaypipes | AJaeger: done. | 18:27 |
AJaeger | jaypipes: will this be part of nova team? | 18:27 |
openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation https://review.openstack.org/282515 | 18:28 |
AJaeger | sdague: what about merging your nova constraints job now? I think everything is fine now, isn't it? | 18:28 |
fungi | AJaeger: my reviewing this week for non-urgent work is likely to end up being intentionally limited to infra-cloud due to the sprint | 18:29 |
AJaeger | fungi: Ok, then let's discuss bindep next week - just wanted to know how urgent it's for you... | 18:30 |
sdague | jaypipes: I thought we'd agreed at nova midcycle to keep everything in os-vif for now? | 18:30 |
sdague | AJaeger: probably, do we have new runs on it | 18:30 |
AJaeger | sdague: I just "recheck"ed your change | 18:30 |
openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation https://review.openstack.org/282515 | 18:31 |
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AJaeger | But with the zuul-cloner change in, we should be back to normal | 18:31 |
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sdague | AJaeger: ok, cool. What was the final resolution on the zuul-cloner issue? | 18:31 |
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jaypipes | sdague: only the reference implementations (linux bridge and OVS) | 18:32 |
rm_work | Does anyone know if Octavia got added back to the auto-requirements updater? | 18:32 |
rm_work | I forget where that lives | 18:32 |
AJaeger | sdague: bug in zuul-cloner: It basically ignored the local cache | 18:32 |
AJaeger | rm_work: requirements repo, file projects.txt | 18:32 |
rm_work | kk i'll check there thanks | 18:32 |
rm_work | looks like no T_T | 18:33 |
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AJaeger | sdague: I've still seen one timeout today - but that came from normal git, so completely unrelated | 18:33 |
rm_work | time to dig up the patch that adds it back | 18:33 |
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fungi | AJaeger: sdague: well, that was making the situation worse but wasn't the underlying cause (which still seems to be some network instability, as evidenced by regular git also occasionally hitting this too) | 18:33 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui https://review.openstack.org/283202 | 18:33 |
sdague | jaypipes: oh, right, ok | 18:34 |
rm_work | if I just recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276802/ will Jenkins passing mean that it's ready? | 18:34 |
AJaeger | sdague: but with using the local cache, we avoid most of these network problems | 18:34 |
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AJaeger | sdague, jaypipes: So, is this repo part of nova project? Then let's addd a governance change as well, please | 18:35 |
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jaypipes | AJaeger: I've been shying away from the governance stuff. I don't see it as necessary for all these plugins. | 18:36 |
openstackgerrit | Khai Do proposed openstack-infra/git-review: Fix Gerrit test site generation https://review.openstack.org/282515 | 18:36 |
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zaro | clarkb: hey, it's been about a week since Gerrit restart. thought we could check on it's GC performance? | 18:37 |
AJaeger | jaypipes: It's the same time working on it as the other repo, so why not add it? | 18:38 |
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AJaeger | jaypipes: discuss it with johnthetubaguy ... | 18:39 |
AJaeger | jaypipes: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/vif-plug-hw-veb does not exist | 18:39 |
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jaypipes | AJaeger: does it need to for this change to go through? | 18:41 |
jaypipes | neither does os-vif, AFAIK. | 18:41 |
AJaeger | jaypipes: pypi: Yes | 18:41 |
jaypipes | guh, ok, one sec. | 18:41 |
clarkb | zaro: max mem is 12GB mean is 8GB | 18:41 |
AJaeger | jaypipes: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n2448 | 18:41 |
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clarkb | zaro: no measurable excess of GC time | 18:42 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: Use 'Tasks' Icon for Tasks https://review.openstack.org/275130 | 18:42 |
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jaypipes | AJaeger: The Nova team is not going to vouch for the quality of each and every VIF plugin. This is the same problem that the Neutron folks ran into with their Neutron stadium. I don't want to add a boatload of VIF plugin repos to the Nova project team when the Nova core team isn't going to be responsible for their quality. It's the same argument that armax has been making about Neutron ML2 plugins. | 18:44 |
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AJaeger | jaypipes: the change can go in without governance for sure - you're not using any of the resources that are there only for official projects. | 18:46 |
anteaya | I feel we are running into problems when someone not associated with the code of the project is creating the project | 18:46 |
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AJaeger | jaypipes: what makes me double check is that you share the team with os-vif - so for such a close relationship, it looks strange. But if that's what nova wants | 18:46 |
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armax | jaypipes: then you should express your opinion on some of the patches that are flying out in neutron-land right now | 18:51 |
armax | :) | 18:51 |
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jaypipes | omg I fucking hate pypi. | 18:52 |
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jaypipes | armax: yes yes, will get to that as soon as I figure out how to ask pypi what my friggin username is. | 18:52 |
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AJaeger | armax: are the projects moving out of the stadium aware that they can apply as independent projects? | 18:54 |
mordred | jaypipes: I usually do that by hitting things with a hammer | 18:54 |
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mordred | jaypipes: (check to see if you have a ~/.pypirc lying aroud) | 18:54 |
armax | AJaeger: :) | 18:54 |
armax | AJaeger: I suppose they must be | 18:54 |
jaypipes | Why does PyPI say "Lost login?" when it actually means "Don't remember your login? Don't worry, we'll ask you for your login name anyway that you don't know?" | 18:54 |
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zaro | clarkb: sounds good. | 18:55 |
jaypipes | Also, logged in with Google successfully, and PyPI still says "Not logged in". awesome. | 18:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project https://review.openstack.org/279074 | 19:04 |
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phschwartz | Is there a command from the openstack cli client to see what network ip pool is in associated with a network? | 19:11 |
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dstufft | jaypipes: there is a reason warehouse is a thing | 19:12 |
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dstufft | jaypipes: what's your email address | 19:12 |
mordred | phschwartz: so - a) not best channel for that - however, b) openstackclient is just now growing good neutron support, so I recommend using the neutron cli for now | 19:13 |
jaypipes | dstufft: warehouse? any way my email is jaypipes@gmail.com. thanks in advance for any assistance, much appreciated. | 19:13 |
mordred | phschwartz: the terms you're looking for are "what subnets are associated with a network" | 19:13 |
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dstufft | jaypipes: Warehouse == my goinging effort to rewrite PyPI so that it isn't a complete mess of code written back when the only real web framework was zope | 19:14 |
phschwartz | mordred: that is it, and I have gotten no responses from the neutron channel :( | 19:14 |
dstufft | ongoing* | 19:14 |
mordred | phschwartz: "neutron --os-cloud=vexxhost net-list" for me shows me the network and its subnets | 19:14 |
mordred | phschwartz: neutron are at the neutron mid-cycle this week | 19:14 |
mordred | phschwartz: http://paste.openstack.org/show/487797 is th eoutput of neutron net-list | 19:14 |
phschwartz | mordred: that explains the silence :) | 19:14 |
jaypipes | dstufft: I see. cool :) how can I help? | 19:14 |
mordred | phschwartz: each of the subnets can be looked at with subnet-show | 19:15 |
mordred | phschwartz: so, for instance: | 19:15 |
phschwartz | I was using the openstack client directly. Let me use the neutron client :) | 19:15 |
mordred | neutron --os-cloud=vexxhost subnet-show 636c3e9b-5988-4cca-8474-1b20411e377f | 19:15 |
mordred | http://paste.openstack.org/show/487798 | 19:15 |
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mordred | phschwartz: neutron support in osc is young - it'll be solid in a few months | 19:15 |
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dstufft | jaypipes: Jay.Pipes | 19:16 |
dstufft | jaypipes: github.com/pypa/warehouse (currently deployed to warehouse.python.org, but will move to pypi.python.org once it's a suitable replacement) | 19:16 |
jaypipes | dstufft: gah! I always forget the darn dot. | 19:17 |
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jaypipes | dstufft: thank you thank you sir. | 19:17 |
dstufft | jaypipes: no problem! | 19:17 |
mordred | dstufft: should I point my pip.conf at warehouse to help test it? | 19:17 |
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jaypipes | dstufft: warehouse.python.org looks fantastic. will check out the source when I find some free time. | 19:19 |
dstufft | mordred: it wouldn't hurt! The one major thing about doing that, is an upload to PyPI doesn't purge warehouse (they are two seperate things as far as Fastly is concerned) so you have to wait for stuff to fall out of the cache naturally (up to 10 minutes) | 19:19 |
phschwartz | mordred: that helped ty :) | 19:19 |
mordred | phschwartz: woot! | 19:19 |
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mordred | dstufft: k. that should likely not hurt me personally on my laptop | 19:21 |
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dstufft | I've started to upload things to warehouse instead of to PyPI (they share a DB), just because warehouse is better about not allowing incomplete uploads | 19:22 |
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mordred | dstufft: neat. so - I've got it in my pip.conf now | 19:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: update oslo constraints for releases Feb 22 https://review.openstack.org/283174 | 19:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Vladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project https://review.openstack.org/279074 | 19:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project https://review.openstack.org/279074 | 19:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create openstack-infra projects https://review.openstack.org/283229 | 19:59 |
openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Create openstack-infra projects in infracloud https://review.openstack.org/283229 | 20:01 |
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jhesketh | Morning | 20:06 |
AJaeger | morning, jhesketh ! | 20:07 |
jhesketh | How's the mid-cycle going? | 20:07 |
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clarkb | it is going, getting a run down of how things fit together | 20:08 |
clarkb | also using the sprint channel for some things there is also an asterisk channel you can dial into if interested in listening in | 20:08 |
clarkb | let me find the channel number | 20:08 |
jhesketh | Can't dial in at the moment sorry (at the hospital) | 20:09 |
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clarkb | oh no worries then (do what you need to do) | 20:09 |
jhesketh | Darn a run down would have been helpful. Are there notes per chance? | 20:09 |
pleia2 | jhesketh: yeah, stashing a bunch in the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-infra-midcycle | 20:09 |
clarkb | jhesketh: yup there ^ | 20:09 |
jhesketh | Perfect, thanks! | 20:10 |
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openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix memory leak on scopes groups https://review.openstack.org/283240 | 20:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Add fuel-virtualbox project https://review.openstack.org/279074 | 20:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/openstackid: Fix memory leak on scopes groups https://review.openstack.org/283240 | 20:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add linting to app-catalog-ui https://review.openstack.org/283202 | 20:34 |
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fungi | jhesketh: also some details are leaking into the #openstack-sprint channel | 20:41 |
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jhesketh | fungi: yep keeping an eye on that channel too | 20:47 |
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craige | o/ | 20:47 |
openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/system-config: OpenstackId Release 1.0.10 https://review.openstack.org/283252 | 20:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Add query for heat neutron tests failure bug 1547261 https://review.openstack.org/283254 | 20:57 |
openstack | bug 1547261 in heat "Tempest heat tests- test_neutron_resources fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547261 | 20:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add rpm-packaging team meeting https://review.openstack.org/279950 | 21:03 |
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kozhukalov | guys, could you please add me (Vladimir Kozhukalovvkozhukalov@mirantis.com) to the group fuel-virtualbox-core https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1299,members | 21:04 |
kozhukalov | I am an author of the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279074/ | 21:05 |
kozhukalov | Thanks in advance | 21:06 |
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ianw | clarkb: would i be hearing anything on the bridge about now? it's hard to tell the difference between not working and just silent :) | 21:15 |
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clarkb | ianw: you should be hearing stuff | 21:17 |
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clarkb | jeblair is investigating | 21:17 |
jeblair | ianw: oh, sorry, the network here keeps disconnecting | 21:18 |
jeblair | ianw: one thing we have learned is that we need a daemon to keep reconnecting | 21:18 |
jeblair | ianw: should be back on now | 21:18 |
ianw | jeblair: cool, i can hear! | 21:18 |
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jeblair | ianw: let me know how it works -- i'm alpha testing an audio pipeline | 21:19 |
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jeblair | ianw: also, we have a speaker here, so if you feel like saying something, we might be able to hear you | 21:19 |
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ianw | jeblair: cool ... there's a bit of background fuzz, might just be the gain required to capture voices. understandable though | 21:22 |
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jeblair | ianw: yeah, i'm going for constant level to try to pick up people across the room. also there is a noisy switch. | 21:24 |
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fungi | or perhaps a switch with a fan with noisy bearings | 21:25 |
fungi | also that was a marvellous sound | 21:25 |
ianw | whatever you just did, it's much better now | 21:25 |
jeblair | ianw: i moved the switch to the floor | 21:25 |
bkero | fungi: "custom asus" doesn't come with a custom fan with bad bearings? :) | 21:25 |
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fungi | that burned out long ago | 21:25 |
jeblair | ianw: did you change anything on your side? maybe switch to speakerphone or unmute or something? | 21:26 |
jeblair | ianw: we just got a feedback loop | 21:26 |
ianw | jeblair: ah, yes just a minute ago i reconnected, as i had started the app in a terminal i acidentally killed | 21:27 |
fungi | bkero: that custom asus was nibalizer assuming i had something custom when he wrote the list while i was out of the room on a break, but is really just a beat-up old asus 701 4g model | 21:27 |
ianw | so it probably went unmute | 21:27 |
ianw | maybe it was just the reconnection | 21:27 |
bkero | Oh wow | 21:27 |
ianw | that fixed the bg | 21:27 |
bkero | That's pretty old, haha | 21:27 |
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fungi | "beat-up" is also an understatement | 21:28 |
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fungi | it's just shy of needing duct tape to hold it together | 21:28 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: update constraints for cliff 2.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/283173 | 21:29 |
bkero | You must have a particular affinity for the little thing. | 21:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Matthew Treinish proposed openstack/os-testr: Treat xfail output like success https://review.openstack.org/283266 | 21:32 |
ianw | jeblair: i think it died, i got a sad boop-boop | 21:34 |
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fungi | bkero: i've had a number of false starts trying to get decent kernel support for high-density backlit panels attached to an sbc, and am having trouble sourcing a good mini-keyboard that's still mostly usable for building one from parts | 21:34 |
fungi | so laziness along with a slight guilty feeling over replacing this with an off-the-shelf purchase have left me using it longer than intended | 21:35 |
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bkero | fungi: There are some old-style Thinkpad keyboard/trackpoints that were sold as external USB devices. Most homebuilt laptops use this. | 21:37 |
bkero | The ribbon cables on laptop keyboards are usually actual matrix traces from it, which are dealt with a controller on the mobo. Rewriting the keymap EEPROM is probably not worth it. >_> | 21:38 |
bkero | something like http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sk-8845-Keyboard-integrated-Pointing/dp/B013HNOA6G/ | 21:38 |
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fungi | bkero: still pretty huge | 21:39 |
bkero | yeah, not really usable for < 12" | 21:39 |
fungi | i'm looking for like a 7" wide keyboard | 21:39 |
bkero | Jorno? | 21:39 |
fungi | there are a few the right size on the market (i've bought several to try out), but just about all are bluetooth instead of direct and incorporate batteries, charger, et cetera | 21:40 |
fungi | so it's a question of how much i want to have to (or even can) modify some of those to drop unnecessary weight and power waste | 21:40 |
bkero | I bet some of them work over USB though. So you could just not use the bluetooth bits. | 21:41 |
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bkero | You'd still have the weight, but maybe not the power. | 21:41 |
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jeblair | ianw: oh sorry | 21:42 |
fungi | right, the ones i've tested so far have a usb port for charging but don't present as an input device over usb | 21:42 |
jeblair | ianw: hrm, it thinks it is still connected | 21:42 |
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fungi | bkero: alternative there is that i do have a design for a one-handed chording keyboard i use for wearable purposes, so might just build myself a "tablet" (sbc plus display panel) and use the chorder with it | 21:44 |
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bkero | fungi: Hah, we seem to have some stuff in common. :) I'm using a Twiddler3 for my wearables. | 21:44 |
bkero | I've been bad about the training though >_> | 21:45 |
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fungi | i've published a gplv2 pcb layout and parts manifest for the spiffchorder | 21:46 |
fungi | and wire it up with cherry mx mechanical switches, because i like the tactile feedback | 21:46 |
bkero | nice | 21:47 |
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bkero | I've been toying with the idea of replacing a laptop keyboard scissorswitches with cherry MLs. They don't add much height. | 21:47 |
jeblair | ianw: is it back? | 21:47 |
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fungi | bkero: http://www.yuggoth.org/wiki/ManMachine/KeyerPCB | 21:49 |
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fungi | bkero: though that's a dev board (so with screw terminals, programmer header, socketed controller, et cetera), i'm working on a scaled down/minimal one for my bext rev | 21:50 |
bkero | I like the terminal blocks, haha | 21:50 |
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fungi | s/bext/next/ | 21:50 |
bkero | Yeah, that's what/ A ST32? | 21:51 |
bkero | Ah, 32u4 | 21:51 |
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bkero | Yeah, you can probably get that pretty small by using a non-socketed AVR, a plug instead of terminal blocks, and surface-mount caps | 21:51 |
bkero | fungi: You should bring it to the summit if you get it done in time. | 21:52 |
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fungi | yep, and i'll leave off the programmer header as well, also some of the lines are unnecessary for a 7-key system, as are a bunch of the led lines | 21:55 |
fungi | i also had to use some passthroughs which i can likely reroute to avoid in that design | 21:56 |
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fungi | and in dropping those lines i can also go with a smaller resistor array | 21:57 |
bkero | Have fun laying out new board :) | 21:58 |
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fungi | i like playing with autorouters and then fixing their poor choices. it satisfies my ocd urges | 22:04 |
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fungi | also it makes me feel smarter than the computer. i need that sort of reassurance from time to time ;) | 22:05 |
bkero | I like to torture them by telling them to do 1-layer designs | 22:05 |
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bkero | You have human skills! Haha | 22:05 |
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ianw | jeblair: ahh, no | 22:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config: OpenstackId Release 1.0.10 https://review.openstack.org/283252 | 22:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Jamie Lennox proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Run the identity v3 only job in additional services https://review.openstack.org/271128 | 22:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Use Ironic as Devstack plugin in Rally gates https://review.openstack.org/274824 | 22:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Paul Van Eck proposed openstack-infra/puppet-refstack: Make puppet pull releases from Pypi https://review.openstack.org/281737 | 22:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config: Enable py/py3 and docs jobs for renderspec https://review.openstack.org/283036 | 22:50 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: add ability to configure network quota https://review.openstack.org/283304 | 23:29 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Add the ability to configure neutron quota using hiera https://review.openstack.org/283307 | 23:45 |
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