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rcarrillocruzinteresting00:53
rcarrillocruzsince when are these flavors in devstack: ds1G, ds2G, etc00:53
rcarrillocruz?00:53
rcarrillocruzhmm00:53
rcarrillocruzinteresting00:53
rcarrillocruzsince when are these flavors in devstack: ds1G, ds2G, etc..00:53
rcarrillocruz?00:53
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rcarrillocruzthey are quite useful, low memory with *some* ephemeral disk size00:56
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clarkbnova dropped their defaults so devstack added new ones01:06
clarkbI think that us what happened at least01:06
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run tempest tests with periodic jobs  https://review.openstack.org/29703802:22
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/30927306:24
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openstackgerritMateusz Matuszkowiak proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Added nodepool::mysql class  https://review.openstack.org/29966107:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: fix aodh tempest gate job  https://review.openstack.org/30974208:04
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openstackgerritMateusz Matuszkowiak proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Added nodepool::mysql class  https://review.openstack.org/29966108:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove nova job from shade+magnum  https://review.openstack.org/30968108:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Allow the CP spec liaisons to vote on OS-specs  https://review.openstack.org/30806908:10
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Do not overwrite readonly files  https://review.openstack.org/30988008:18
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Do not overwrite readonly files  https://review.openstack.org/30988008:24
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/glean: Do not overwrite readonly files  https://review.openstack.org/30988008:25
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openstackgerritNiall Bunting proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Enable g-api and n-api for glance_store functional  https://review.openstack.org/30767009:16
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run tempest tests with periodic jobs  https://review.openstack.org/29703811:00
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electrofelixis gerrit integrated with storyboard? as in does it transition storyboard issues to in review/fixed when changes are uploaded with story links in the commit footer and then merged?11:46
clarkbno11:48
clarkbit is theoretically possible we just didnt split brain the hooks11:48
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electrofelixclarkb: thanks, manual update and close, good to know, wasn't sure if some mistakes were being made with how the story was being specified in the commit message12:36
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electrofelixzxiiro waynr zaro: jjb 32 reviews merged, 20 abandoned (obsolete, duplicates, or incorrect), 62 remaining. Don't think we can get all remaining reviews landed before cutting the last 1.x release, but there are about 25 old ones left to be checked whether current, and I think after them we make the decision as to whether anything is sufficiently important it should be included before releasing12:46
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waynrelectrofelix: hmm, didn't we at one point have a list of critical reviews for 1.x?13:10
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electrofelixwaynr: we had a fuzzy list, didn't actually look through them. my current plan is just to check that there isn't anything important or simple that is languishing in those last 25 ones and otherwise we just check the remaining items that can be approved and then release13:13
electrofelixnot that we include them ;)13:13
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electrofelixwaynr: is https://review.openstack.org/221879 something you're planning on working on?13:15
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waynrelectrofelix: no, it would be easier to rewrite the YamlParser in an object-oriented fashion than to try to fix defaults directly in the uber procedure approach for expandYaml13:17
waynri'll abandon it13:17
electrofelixso it's superseded by v2 work?13:18
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waynroh no, rewriting YamlParser yaml expansion in an object-oriented manner is not in scope for v213:19
electrofelixhmm, maybe leave it open so13:19
electrofelixat least we know it's incomplete then13:19
waynronce v2 is release it will probably be a little easier to rewrite the expansion algorithm since yaml expansion and xml generation will be handled by separate classes13:20
waynrokay i'll leave it open13:20
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snarwadehello, how to use multiple scm in jjb ?13:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Remove puppetlabs-concat pin  https://review.openstack.org/30530413:40
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zxiiroelectrofelix waynr great work guys. I'm at the summit this week but can try to sneak in a few more reviews13:47
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openstackgerritNate Marsella proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck: Make the index format string configurable in the conf file.  https://review.openstack.org/30636013:59
prometheanfireso, who do I have to bug for a bindep release to pypi? :P13:59
waynrzxiiro: electrofelix has been doing all the hard work for this final JJB 2.x release13:59
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prometheanfireprobably won't happen this week at least13:59
fungiprometheanfire: it was on my to do list for last week, but i've put it on the e'pad for our friday sprint time as an option14:02
fungiwe have a few under-appreciated utilities/libs which need more active reviewers and could stand a change flush and release14:02
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zxiirowaynr: electrofelix : let me know if you have any cleanup activities you'd like done in 2.x. I have an intern starting soon and will be working on JJB for the summer.14:05
zxiiroI plan on having him convert all the plugins to use the mapping and convert xml system to make the code cleaner14:06
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prometheanfirefungi: ya, this should fix our pypi stuff for any new packages or bumps14:06
prometheanfirefungi: oops, wrong chat14:07
prometheanfirefungi: but ya, thanks for adding it to the schedule14:07
prometheanfireI could also bug tonyb :P14:07
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fungiREMINDER: after keynotes, these sessions may be of interest to infra people... 11:15-11:55 CDT openstack infrastructure for beginners (convention center level 1 ballroom 3), and openstack-health qa dashboard intro (convention center level 1 ballroom b)14:18
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mnaserhttps://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7337 and https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/715514:20
mnaser^14:20
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fungifor the 12:04-12:45 block: how to create an openstack project (convention center level 4 meeting room 15), and in the hilton there's ops sessions on taxonomy of failures and ask openstack14:22
clarkbtaxonomy of failures is likely me14:22
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fungiyeah, i think my time will be best spent providing peanut gallery support to the infra for beginners and creating new projects talks14:24
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clarkbthere is also a logging session at 1115 that I would like to attend14:26
fungioh, right i missed that14:26
rcarrillocruzomg, hope it gets better, otherwise i'll leave the keynote14:26
rcarrillocruz:D14:26
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fungircarrillocruz: pay attention so you'll know which quadrant you're in14:26
rcarrillocruzlol14:26
rcarrillocruzmagic quadrant!14:27
mnaser^^^14:27
mnasershe didnt say it once!14:27
anteayarcarrillocruz: :)14:27
mnaserso, openstack-infra is discussing moving to mode 1 by the next summit hopefully?14:27
rcarrillocruzyeah, ITIL FTW!14:27
fungii'm shooting for mode 0, but it will take some effort14:27
anteayaI must have arrived after quadrant14:28
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anteayapleia2: what building is your thing in?14:28
fungianteaya: convention center level 1 ballroom 314:29
fungi(so sayeth the stack of paper i brought anyway)14:30
clarkbphone app confirms14:30
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anteayafungi clarkb thank you14:31
anteayafungi: all hail the stack of paper you brought14:31
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anteayaand yay the phone app confirms14:31
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davidgilukis this the right place for questions about user profile problems on openstack.org; if it is I've got a bunch of minorish issues14:43
clarkbnot quite but we can probably steer you in the right direction. what sorts of issues?14:44
clarkb(we run the dev infrastructure but openstack.org and its profiles are managed by the foundation itself)14:45
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davidgilukclarkb: OK, so a few - https://www.openstack.org/profile/ selecting the 'public profile' gets me a 40414:48
davidgilukclarkb: that is that https://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/61266 is 404'ing14:48
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clarkbdavidgiluk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org is the bug tracker for the service. Usually a good place to start. I can also dig up a more direct contact address14:49
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fungidavidgiluk: i've seen that before when they think people have more than one profile and they're trying to do some cleanup, but yeah that bug tracker is a good place to report the issue14:50
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davidgilukclarkb/fungi: OK, the other pair I have are than 2) groups.os.org has miscopied the name from my main profile (main profile shows David Gilbert, groups shows David Gilbert Gilbert)14:51
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fungidefinitely sounds like a multiple account/profile issue, yeah14:51
davidgilukclarkb/fungi: Oh and the most minor is that it took my profile photo and didn't display it; then if I try and reupload the image it complains the 'file already exists' - so I guess I need to just rename14:51
davidgilukfungi: OK, I'll create a lp entry14:52
davidgilukfungi: Is that one lp entry or 3 separate ones?14:52
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fungii'd just report one bug with all three of your problems since they're likely related14:52
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fungithey can usually clean those up pretty quickly14:52
davidgilukfungi: OK, thanks, will do14:52
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anteayadid jonathan start off my asking contributors to stand? if so, how much of the room stood?14:53
anteayaI don't see _anyone_ I recognize14:53
fungianteaya: yeah, though i was in the front row so couldn't really see14:53
anteayaah14:54
fungiwe have ~7500 in attendance this time, so not surprising it's hard to find people you recognize14:54
anteayafair enough14:54
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clarkband >50% have not attended a summit before14:54
anteayaon the positive side, this room feels better than the room in atlanta14:54
anteayaclarkb: wow14:55
anteayathe room in atlanta seated 4000 people and I felt so claustrophobic I couldn't stay14:55
fungiit is indeed a very open space14:55
openstackgerritAlexey Khivin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add murano-open-paas project to openstack  https://review.openstack.org/30938314:55
anteayathis room is spread out enough and has enough room between the edge of the seats and the wall that it feels much better for me14:56
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openstackgerritAlexey Khivin proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add murano-open-paas project to openstack  https://review.openstack.org/30938314:59
davidgilukfungi: Thanks ; reported as  https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org/+bug/157469615:00
openstackLaunchpad bug 1574696 in openstack-org "user profile: 404, incorrect name on groups, problem with image upload" [Undecided,New]15:00
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anteayaI'm not feeling that the phrase "give up on everything" encompasses my feelings about public cloud15:14
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clarkbanteaya: it refers to giving up on internal IT15:19
clarkbbecause it takes 44 days to deploy in that old world of IT according to earlier kwynotes15:20
anteayaI see15:20
fungidavidgiluk: if you're at the summit, the lead developer for the system storing the foundation profiles will be siting in the info booth at the convention center after keynotes are done, and he mentioned he might be able to help you in person too15:20
davidgilukfungi: I'm not; I'm still sitting comfortably here at home15:20
anteayaclarkb: my conclusion would be changing paradigms internally, not abandoning addressing culture in house15:21
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anteayathough I could see the motivation for not advocating that perspective15:21
anteayaclarkb: thanks for helping me understand the point that was expressed15:21
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anteayadavidgiluk: bet you are sitting in a room that seats fewer people than the room we are sitting in15:22
clarkbanteaya: the house I am trying to buy could fit in this room15:23
clarkbmany timea over15:23
anteayaclarkb: I believe you15:23
davidgilukclarkb: Well they do say everything is bigger in Texas15:23
anteayathe neighbourhood where I live cloud fit in this room15:23
fungieven hyperbole is bigger in texas15:24
anteayaha ha ha15:24
anteayaclarkb: tell me of the house you desire to purchase15:24
rcarrillocruzomg, sales pitch15:24
anteayaclarkb: how is the siding?15:24
anteayarcarrillocruz: you buying it?15:24
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clarkbanteaya: its fine15:25
anteayaclarkb: yay!15:25
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clarkbgave up on city am burbsing it15:25
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anteayaclarkb: do the sellers seem reasonable thus far?15:25
anteayaclarkb: cool15:25
clarkbyup much better experience15:25
anteayayay!15:25
anteayabiking distance to the city?15:26
clarkbnot really but there us transit15:26
rcarrillocruzanteaya: you folks at the keynote or fleed already?15:27
rcarrillocruzi'm out right after superuser awards15:27
anteayaportland transit is great15:27
anteayarcarrillocruz: I'm in the keynote15:28
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anteayareading the canadian national news15:28
rcarrillocruzi assume you all going to pleia2 and pabelanger after this15:28
clarkblogging for me15:29
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anteayaclarkb: which is the logging one?15:29
pabelangerrcarrillocruz: I might15:29
rcarrillocruz:P15:29
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dabukalamdavidgiluk: I'll show that to Marton as well when I see him this week, I think he maintains groups.openstack.org, which I believe is separate15:31
clarkbops logging if you could fix one thing what would it be15:31
davidgilukdabukalam: Ah thanks15:31
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fungidabukalam: davidgiluk: he's mrmartin in here usually, though not in channel at the moment15:32
anteayaclarkb: ah the ops summit, cool15:32
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anteayaI'm thinking someone should sit in on https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/897315:34
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docaedoclarkb: hoping your burbs adventure takes you out towards greghaynes and I :)15:34
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [Manila-UI] Add coverage job  https://review.openstack.org/31000415:34
clarkbdocaedo: sort of, its bethany/oak hills15:35
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docaedoclarkb: cool!15:35
clarkbso further north but westside15:35
greghaynesdocaedo: yea, hes up north :(15:35
clarkbI will man the wall15:35
greghaynesdocaedo: but theres a highway that goes straight shot between us15:35
docaedoyeah that's not too bad15:36
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clarkbI believe the technical neighborhood is oak hills but I am outsode of the 50s community so seems weord to call it that15:37
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andreykurilinhi folks!15:41
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clarkbhello15:42
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andreykurilinCould someone look at failures in rally jobs? http://logs.openstack.org/67/309967/1/check/gate-rally-install-centos-7/5d47e01/console.html#_2016-04-25_13_11_05_43315:42
andreykurilinIt appeared today. We did not change anything in our scripts:)15:43
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clarkbandreykurilin: it cant find setuptools on pypi15:44
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fungiandreykurilin: this may be due to changes on pypi?15:44
clarkbI would talk to pypi15:44
clarkbalso we run mirrors that you should likely use instead (we configure that in our test slaves via pypi global config iirc)15:44
fungihttps://pypi.python.org/simple/setuptools/ does still have a setuptools index15:44
fungithis could be related to how the indices got switched to hashed tree links for the files15:45
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clarkboh did that happen?15:45
clarkbI remember the conversation about how it would work, didnt realize it was being deployed15:46
fungiyep, the problem is at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/rally/tree/install_rally.sh#n27815:46
fungiandreykurilin: ^15:46
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fungiyour regex no longer matches now that pypi's simple index has changed15:47
andreykurilin:(15:47
andreykurilinfungi: could you help to edit it? I do know nothing about this indexes15:47
clarkbI would stop editing urls15:48
clarkbpip can download only iirc15:48
fungii question the necessity of manually installing setuptools there too15:48
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fungipip has a bootstrap installer script and an in turn be used to pip install setuptools afterward15:49
fungialso, those steps should hopefully be entirely unnecessary on our ci system since we preinstall latest pip/setuptools/virtualenv on the worker images15:50
dstufftget-pip.py installs setuptools too if it doesn't already exist15:50
andreykurilinfungi: this script is used not only at ci15:50
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dstufftget-pip.py would more accurately be called get-pip-and-sometimes-setuptools-and-sometimes-wheel.py, or maybe get-the-stuff-ypu-probably-want-in-an-empty-enviornment.py15:51
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dstufftbut those are harder to type than get-pip.py :]15:51
clarkbdstufft: "make-magic-happen.py"15:51
andreykurilin:D15:51
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andreykurilinok, so I need to remove a bunch of magic from our install script..15:54
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fungiunfortunate, looks like https://review.openstack.org/162418 switched install_rally.sh away from get-pip.py15:55
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fungiand encoded its own handlers around parsing urls which are a pypi implementation detail and not a guaranteed stable api15:56
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dstufftit's kind of fun but also scares me about the day that pypi.io launches to see how much of any change on PyPI is https://xkcd.com/1172/15:57
fungiwithout even following that link, i'm quite positive it's the overheating spacebar15:57
andreykurilinfungi: yeah, I remember this patch, I was one of approvers :)15:57
dstufftfungi: yes :]15:58
andreykurilinfungi: I think that rally should retrun to get-pip15:58
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docaedopleia2: hope you are joining us soon in ballroom c :)16:02
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fungipacked house! at max velocity i was barely able to make it from the front of the keynotes to the intro to infra room with a couple minutes to spare and every seat was already taken16:19
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fungiso cool16:19
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nibalizery that room is really full16:20
nibalizeri ended up in mtreinish 's talk16:21
funginow it's your job to support health.o.o ;)16:21
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nibalizerseems like a good time for an apt-get upgrade :)16:24
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anteayaokay so sitting in the cross project dashboard session16:30
anteaya this is a product presentation, not a design session16:30
anteayathey choose angular.js, something called express, and node.js "because they are new so that will increase adoption by the community"16:30
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: WIP Fix defaults application.  https://review.openstack.org/22187916:31
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nibalizeranteaya: fun16:32
anteayayeah16:32
electrofelixwaynr: I just tidied the patch up so that it could pass correctly, turns out there was a behaviour that was missed, where we expand templates with defaults first and it appears that is already relied on.16:32
fungianteaya: dashboard huh?16:33
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anteayaand no etherpad for this session16:33
anteayafungi: exactly16:33
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fungioh, that was the product working group16:35
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anteayafungi: oh sorry, I mis-understood your prior comment, it was in fact a question16:36
anteayayes this is the product working group user story dashboard thing that they demo'd at the board/tc meeting yesterday16:36
fungiso while it would be nice to see them work with the storyboard devs on implementing those features (things we originally wanted in it but were further down the roadmap), storyboard (like horizon) is using angular16:37
fungior maybe horizon is still working on transitioning to angular?16:37
fungii don't really know16:37
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anteayaI wonder how long it will take before the folks working on this dashboard figure that out16:37
anteayaI don't know either16:37
fungiyeah, web interfaces are a lot of voodoo for me16:38
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anteayamostly they went ahead and made some decisions in a vacuum, with the justificaiton of "community adoption" without getting input on their decsions16:38
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anteayamuch voodoo16:38
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for Manual Build Trigger  https://review.openstack.org/20254316:39
anteayapost presentation is when discussions are happening16:39
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anteayadiscussions that would actually have made sense to have a session about16:40
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rcarrillocruzi kinda of remember folks mentioning angular for horizon yeah16:43
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clarkbpabelanger: devstack-centos7 still looking good, what was plan for removing it entirely?16:43
* clarkb remembers pabelanger is giving a talk16:44
fungihe's talking now in fact--he projects well!16:44
fungianteaya: well, anyway, it's not entirely wasted effort. it can serve as a proof of concept demo for the features they're looking for in issue tracking, and might result in turning up additional devs to contribute to an issue tracker already in progress16:44
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: allow modules to manipulate data structure per job  https://review.openstack.org/22868216:46
anteayafungi: yes that might be the benefit of this16:47
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jlvillalSo I was in a presentation where it seemed they said that Jenkins will be replaced with something else. If so, what is Jenkins being replaced with?16:50
AJaegerjlvillal: Zuul v316:50
fungijlvillal: less "replaced" and more "made unnecessary"16:51
waynrelectrofelix: on the "fix defaults" patch?16:51
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jlvillalAJaeger, fungi Thanks :)16:51
anteayaI thought that was zuul v2.516:51
electrofelixyeap16:51
anteayadid I mis-understand the purpose of zuul v2.5?16:51
rcarrillocruzthe jobs will be run by ansible , all driven by zuul v316:51
fungithe last features we're relying on jenkins for now are relatively trivial tasks which zuul will take over in time16:51
jlvillalAnsible 2.5?16:51
electrofelixwaynr: it'll at least pass tests for now and we can think about it again subsequently after v2 work.16:52
fungijlvillal: version of ansible is probably irrelevant in this case. just relying on it to run predefined scripts (jobs) on remote workers16:52
jlvillalfungi, thanks.16:52
rcarrillocruzansible 2.5 is no yet a thing yet16:52
funginot really relying on fancy features in ansible afaik16:53
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waynrelectrofelix: huh, i guess i gave up on it too early16:56
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waynrif i remember correctly i was also working on that on battery power in a tent in the woods16:56
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waynroh, looking at the content of that review...i had at least another +50 lines of code that i didn't submit16:59
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waynrwhich actually attempted to implement the "list of defaults" feature described in the commit message16:59
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electrofelixwaynr: at least you have a working starting point now ;)17:00
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waynryeah. also, ignore what i just said i was looking at diff between first and second patch set17:01
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AJaegerfungi, I'll be in the "new project" session17:06
clarkbAJaeger: ++17:07
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anteayaI was incorrect, the product working group dashboard bit was meant to be a presentation in the community track, it wasn't meant to be a design session17:13
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anteayahence no etherpad was expected17:13
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Adding support for Manual Build Trigger  https://review.openstack.org/20254317:31
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add murano-open-paas project to openstack  https://review.openstack.org/30938317:41
clarkbI thin kI am lunching in the hilton if it isn't completely mobbed17:42
anteayaclarkb: I hope you can find both food and a place to consume it17:43
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: implemented and passing tests  https://review.openstack.org/24027217:50
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Add support for URL scm plugin  https://review.openstack.org/24027217:51
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Serialize combine-queued-commits for git-revision  https://review.openstack.org/12496518:05
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jeblairmnaser: any chance you're in the hilton (ops summit) this afternoon?18:14
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow testing non-default configs with complex definitions  https://review.openstack.org/30973418:18
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Output additional info when exceptions occur  https://review.openstack.org/30973518:18
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Remove obsolete tools script  https://review.openstack.org/30973318:18
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support deep merge of defaults  https://review.openstack.org/15073018:18
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: add render_macro and split registry  https://review.openstack.org/25709618:18
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openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Allow testing non-default configs with complex definitions  https://review.openstack.org/30973418:23
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Output additional info when exceptions occur  https://review.openstack.org/30973518:23
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Remove obsolete tools script  https://review.openstack.org/30973318:23
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Support deep merge of defaults  https://review.openstack.org/15073018:23
openstackgerritDarragh Bailey proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Split registry  https://review.openstack.org/25709618:23
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add matchers for external references on launchpad  https://review.openstack.org/29559218:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Make 'title' attribute available on dialog widgets  https://review.openstack.org/28974818:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add navigation breadcrumb footer  https://review.openstack.org/28825018:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Fix rendering error in change screen  https://review.openstack.org/29542318:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Use short titles in breadcrumbs  https://review.openstack.org/31003618:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/gertty: Add extra columns to change list if there is room  https://review.openstack.org/31003718:30
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pabelangerclarkb: lets land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30968418:48
pabelangerclarkb: then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30961918:48
pabelangerclarkb: to recap, I think we can remove devstack-centos7 :)18:50
clarkbyay will look when laptop is open again18:52
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Zaraah, that session earlier *was* 'how to create an openstack project'18:55
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fungiAJaeger: thanks for taking the new project session. i went straight there from the infra intro session and by the time i got to the room it was too full to even get in the door. hope it went well19:06
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AJaegerfungi: yes, went well. The concentrated on the non-technical parts.19:07
fungigood!19:07
AJaegerOne person was asking at the end about repos for golang content and I pointed him to mailing list and this channel.19:08
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AJaegerfungi, technical part will be part of the lightning talks - presented by me: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/861419:08
fungii mostly wanted to make sure someone was there to help them avoid propagating misinformation about process and expectations19:08
clarkbAJaeger: we do have them, swift and the go sdk project19:08
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fungiAJaeger: i saw you had that up for the lightning talks too yes, so awesome that's something you could point people at for the technical part19:09
AJaegerclarkb: Ah, missed that. Hope we can help that guy once he shows up19:09
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AJaegerNo, couldn't point them to that - they wanted to do and then missed and run over...19:09
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AJaegerso, no chance for me to stand up ;(19:09
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mnaserjeblair: i can make my way now19:20
mnasermaybe if clarkb is around there too?19:20
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fungimnaser: clarkb is on floor 4 of the hilton (the osops repo session). i last saw jeblair over here in the convention on level 4 trying to preview the lightning talks space/equipment19:21
mnaserfungi: alright, i'll make my way down there and ill surely run into them, thanks19:22
openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack-infra/glean: Enable multiple VLANs per physical interface  https://review.openstack.org/28372619:23
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clarkbmnaser: I am in 409? 410?19:24
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clarkbit is a mostly empty room working on logstas hthings19:25
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clarkbdoor number says 41219:25
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anteayaI'm in 410 at the scientific wg ops session19:27
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/logstash-filters: Sync filter updates with system-config templates  https://review.openstack.org/31004419:32
openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/logstash-filters: Add .gitreview file  https://review.openstack.org/31004519:32
openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/logstash-filters: Move the input and output sections to example files  https://review.openstack.org/31004619:32
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funginext session we've got a stable branch presentation and security presentation in level 1 ballrooms in the convention center, and a big tent retrospective in a ballroom on level 4 of the convention center (i'll likely be in the latter)19:41
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clarkbmnaser: http://paste.openstack.org/show/495367/19:43
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clarkbfungi: jeblair mordred mnaser is there a time before wednesday that isn't entirely crazy for having quick chat about cloud resources?19:52
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clarkbjesusaur: trying to get these two changes together so I can push them in a state that makes sense19:59
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Properly support logstash conf.d  https://review.openstack.org/31005120:04
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use logstash filters from filters repo  https://review.openstack.org/31005220:06
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clarkbjesusaur: ^ there we go, those are not complete, the puppet-logstash repo needs templates for the default paths on the inputs and outputs or we need to make those required params20:06
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clarkbI have just added infra-core to logstash-filters code, anyone opposed to me also adding jesusaur ?20:08
clarkbs/code/core/20:08
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clarkbjesusaur: anyways I likely won't have much time to focus on this for the rest of the summit EBUSY20:12
nibalizerclarkb: sounds good to me20:12
clarkbjesusaur: feel free to push updates if you like, or I can get back to it when back home20:12
jesusaurclarkb: ok, should I push an update to keep the old conf_template parameter until after we change system-config to use input_template and output_template?20:13
clarkbjesusaur: go for it if you have the time20:13
anteayaclarkb: I have no objection to jesusaur being added20:13
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Properly support logstash conf.d  https://review.openstack.org/31005120:23
jesusaurclarkb: ^^20:23
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clarkbdanke20:28
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jesusaurclarkb: and there is also a 3-patch stack starting at 31004420:29
clarkbya I am waiting for gerrit cache on my +2 powers to kick in20:30
clarkbI could only +1 when I closed laptop20:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/logstash-filters: Sync filter updates with system-config templates  https://review.openstack.org/31004420:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/logstash-filters: Add .gitreview file  https://review.openstack.org/31004520:38
clarkbjesusaur: ^ thats the first two, on the third not sure if we need to be owrried about anyone else using that repo. it didn't even have a .gitreview yet so probably not20:38
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clarkbI see a pleia220:42
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fungii'm checking out the dreamhost talk on how they integrated upstream documentation into their customer portal knowledgebase. there's still a few open seats! (conference center level 4 meeting room 15)20:44
clarkbfungi: oh me too where are you20:44
fungifront row20:44
funginext to crinkle20:44
clarkbah way at the end20:44
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fungiif anybody isn't sitting in on the upstream dev lightning talks (5:30-6:10, convention center level 4 mr 16), it might be nice to have an infra rep in the how to become an advanced upstream contributor session (next door in mr 15)21:03
jeblairi'm giving one of the lightning talks (gertty) so probably am not the best placed for that21:04
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clarkbI can sit in 1621:04
clarkbit was already the only thing on my list at that time21:05
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jeblairclarkb: lightning talks are 16; i think fungi was looking for a volunteer to skip that and do 15 instead?21:06
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timrcmtreinish: So I mispoke at your talk earlier (been a long time since I've worked on this), but basically with gearman-plugin 0.2, we'll start sending node label info back to zuul which allows us to collect stats relative to node types.  Still would be interesting for OpenStack Health.21:06
clarkboh I mixed up the rooms. The advanced contributor talk was on my list21:06
clarkbso I will be in that one21:06
fungithe thing in 15 will _probably_ go fine, but thanks clarkb for throwing yourself on the grenade21:06
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jeblairtimrc: the health dashboard gets info from zeromq, not zuul21:07
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jeblairtimrc: er, sorry, the logstash processer gets info from zeromq, not zuul21:07
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jeblairtimrc: the dashboard gets info from subunit2sql21:08
* fungi should find an electrical outlet during the upcoming break. dropping off for now, back once i can swap batteries safely21:08
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pabelangerCurrently in 16, waiting to test my HDMI output for lightning talk21:09
timrcjeblair: So far... but I've heard he wants more sources too.. so why not graphite?21:09
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jeblairindeed21:09
timrcjeblair: I kind of want the question answered: Did my test fail because infra failed (in some way) or did it fail because I introduced a bug?21:09
clarkbtimrc: see elsatic-recheck21:10
timrc(or hit a known bug, eastic recehck,e tc)21:10
timrcclarkb: :hivemind:21:10
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timrcmtreinish: This is the first thing that we'll start collecting as soon as node label stuff starts going back to zuul: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/commit/?id=b2332081d8e0fda780bbc1f4dfd917f2546d172421:10
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Properly support logstash conf.d  https://review.openstack.org/31005121:11
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jeblairtimrc: i think i upgraded the plugin recently21:13
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fungiafter the upcoming break i think i'm going to sit in on the "life on openstack outside the kernel" (contributing from under-represented parts of the world)21:15
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clarkbfungi: that was on my list too21:15
jeblairfungi: i had no idea that's what that title meant21:15
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jeblairtimrc: i don't see those metrics though21:15
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fungiyeah, i only read the description because the title was strange21:16
clarkbI also have devtest cloud, and the massively distributed clouds in that time slot21:16
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clarkboh and hunting for purple squirrels21:17
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clarkbmnaser: I sent email but in case you see this first people are saying lunch time tomorrow in the dev summit lunch area of the hilton for talking about the donated resources21:20
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rcarrillocruzDoh, couldnt make it21:23
rcarrillocruzAny other infra sessions now?21:24
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Use logstash filters from filters repo  https://review.openstack.org/31005221:24
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mnaserclarkb: saw the email, sounds good i'll be there21:29
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anteayaI'm in the nfv session for ops22:00
anteayaroom is packed22:00
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anteayawe have spend 10 minutes listening to one person talking about their deployment22:01
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anteayaI'm not feeling a lot of sympathetic feelings from the other folks in the room22:02
openstackgerritAdam Spiers proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Create openstack-resource-agents-specs git repo  https://review.openstack.org/29614422:02
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anteayanot feeling that what this person is talking about is shared by others in the room22:02
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Zaraooi, how come 'jeepyb' is called 'jeepyb'?22:08
clarkbZara: it is Gerrit Project Builder -> GPB -> jeepyb22:08
Zaraace! I got as far as 'maybe it's something GPB... gerrit project... business?'22:09
rcarrillocruzheh22:09
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timrc-I never ever put that together... TIL22:12
asselinwondered that myself. glad to know :)22:12
jeblairwe had just named 'jenkins job builder' which we call 'jjb' and mordred figured he couldn't top that, so... :)22:12
jeblairwe now require special dispensation before we allow mordred to name projects.22:13
anteaya++22:14
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clarkbone thing coming out f this talk is maybe we need to run the infra manual through the translation process22:17
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jeblairthat'd be swell22:18
anteayagood idea22:19
anteayaclarkb: is that the purple squirrel session?22:20
clarkbsamueldmq did point out that ultimately contributors do need to work in english and so the value there may not hvae the same impact as say translating horizon22:20
clarkbanteaya: the outside the kernel session22:20
clarkbNow waiting for how to become an advanced contributor22:21
anteayaclarkb: ah22:21
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anteayaclarkb: oh, sounds interesting22:21
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clarkband then booth crawl I guess22:35
clarkbsdague's code contribution flow diagram just got used22:37
anteayaclarkb: yay22:37
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit of the Phabricator puppetry.  https://review.openstack.org/28964822:44
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clarkb"Why should I do dirty work?" has triggered a mini migration out of the room22:46
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-logstash: Properly support logstash conf.d  https://review.openstack.org/31005122:49
anteayaclarkb: wow22:49
jeblairclarkb: i can't wait to hear this story22:49
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit of the Phabricator puppetry.  https://review.openstack.org/28964822:49
anteayaclarkb: yes folks only want to be an advanced contributor if it is easy22:49
anteayas/yes/I guess22:50
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit of the Phabricator puppetry.  https://review.openstack.org/28964822:57
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clarkbjeblair: it was basically "I learned a ton by writing the admin guide for telemetry. Dont be afraid of dirty work it is useful to you and others" and people started leaving23:02
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack-infra/system-config: Initial commit of the Phabricator puppetry.  https://review.openstack.org/28964823:03
jeblairwow23:04
* krotscheck wonders if someone's done a productivity study on Frustration-Driven Development.23:04
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anteayayeah, wow23:06
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openstackgerritChris St. Pierre proposed openstack/python-jenkins: Fetch all builds from a job  https://review.openstack.org/30955423:08
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fungikrotscheck: ragecode until you ragequit?23:56
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