Tuesday, 2016-06-28

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cloudnullclarkb pabelanger: while workload is for sure a lot less right now http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/nodepool-osic?panelId=11&fullscreen looks like its moving the right direction00:12
Nakatojeblair: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293194/00:12
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cloudnullwe'll see tomorrow if it holds up00:12
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openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP, DNM: Cinder multinode grenade job  https://review.openstack.org/33453700:38
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anteayafungi: thank you00:43
fungianteaya: you're welcome. i hope the seminar is going well!00:44
anteayathanks just arrived today, we get started tomorrow at 8am00:45
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rajinirNeed help with logs, the scp plugin is not uploading the logs if the build fails. Wonder if its configuration issue01:37
fungirajinir: there's a publisher option which controls that... files: copy-after-failure: true01:39
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rajinirfungi: I do have that set to true01:39
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rajinirfungi: I have HUDSON/SCP+plugin V1.8. I have it set to true in the template, but don't see that option in the jenkins UI01:42
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fungiclarkb: is it possible that's ^ something added in your fork?01:43
clarkbthe only thi g I added was console log uploads, also its not a fork anymore its upstream just no release iirc?01:43
fungiahh, right. i keep forgetting it's just a build from master trunk now01:44
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openstackgerritMatthew Treinish proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Make trove tempest job nv until plugin is added  https://review.openstack.org/33474303:08
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Use ssh for git-upload-pack  https://review.openstack.org/20003405:10
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Projects without jobs still enter pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/30280005:16
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tobiashjhesketh: just rebased your testcase onto the fix  ^^05:18
jheskethtobiash: oh awesome, thanks!05:20
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Temporarily disable the cached images  https://review.openstack.org/33463405:23
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* notmorgan looks out from under the rock.05:32
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openstackgerritChaoyi Huang proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add the Tricircle functional test job  https://review.openstack.org/32974005:59
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Making element overriding explicit  https://review.openstack.org/33478506:00
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add IMAGE_ELEMENT_YAML  https://review.openstack.org/33478606:00
ianwcinerama / greghaynes : ^ that actually turned out to be easier than i thought (famous last words, haven't really tested).  but i think that's the direction we should head, anyway06:01
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AJaegerlifeless: are you still around and have a few minutes for bindep, please?06:04
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Clear up "already provided" message  https://review.openstack.org/29096806:04
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Convert element_dependencies to logging  https://review.openstack.org/32807206:04
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add IMAGE_ELEMENT_YAML  https://review.openstack.org/33478606:04
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Making element overriding explicit  https://review.openstack.org/33478506:04
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478706:05
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478706:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/33478906:12
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openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP, DNM: Cinder multinode grenade job  https://review.openstack.org/33453706:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add infrstucture scripts to prepare rh2  https://review.openstack.org/29524306:43
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add mulitnode CI job support to tripleo-ci  https://review.openstack.org/32477706:46
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Fix openstack-tripleo-common package name  https://review.openstack.org/33446706:46
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478706:46
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yolandagood morning06:50
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478707:00
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add IMAGE_ELEMENT_YAML  https://review.openstack.org/33478607:02
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Making element overriding explicit  https://review.openstack.org/33478507:02
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/bindep: Handle platform and normal profiles  https://review.openstack.org/33442107:10
AJaegerlifeless, fungi: I implemented lifeless' great suggestions and extended the test suite ^07:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add comment to bindep-fallback  https://review.openstack.org/33464207:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/33478907:29
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478707:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Remove trove from the layer4 job  https://review.openstack.org/33448507:35
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: "List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33481707:47
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: "List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33481707:48
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: "List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33481707:58
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openstackgerritJoshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/zuul: Projects without jobs still enter pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/30280008:00
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: networking-midonet: Add periodic jobs for stable branches  https://review.openstack.org/33483008:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Don't remove stack sudo on inspector discovery job  https://review.openstack.org/33433708:08
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Testing - do not merge  https://review.openstack.org/33483108:08
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add repositories for Charm interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/33450208:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: New project of a Model-Driven Extensible Framework  https://review.openstack.org/33384308:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix gerrit its-storyboard build  https://review.openstack.org/33455108:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Update the CI ACL for fuel-plugins-xenserver  https://review.openstack.org/33455808:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add charms.openstack  https://review.openstack.org/33447008:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Introduce experimental Inspector grenade job  https://review.openstack.org/33100108:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add specs entry for Watcher specs  https://review.openstack.org/33394908:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix sphinx-build to not depend on diskimage-builder  https://review.openstack.org/33191108:34
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esikachevhey! Where can I find docs for zuul 3 or samples of use cases?08:43
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AJaegeresikachev: there's no zuul 3 yet - there's a spec for it. Best ask jeblair during US time08:47
esikachevAJaeger: ok, thanks08:47
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Srinuhi09:02
Srinuesikachev: hi09:02
SrinuAJaeger: hi09:03
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SrinuAJaeger: Single Logserver for 2 jenkins can be used09:04
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Fix warning on infracloud vhost template  https://review.openstack.org/33486709:05
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33482709:10
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33481709:11
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Ensure we compare with a valid file in log fix  https://review.openstack.org/33487609:16
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33482709:18
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478709:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/groups: Add line about funding to ambassador role  https://review.openstack.org/32284309:27
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jtyrHello. I have a patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311150/) with one +2 and one +1 Code-Review and I'm looking for somebody from the core team who could review it and give it the second +2. Is here somebody like that?09:29
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AJaeger_jtyr: we have 70+ repos, could you explain what your change does and for which repo it is, please? That makes it easier to answer your question09:30
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Fix glance service and package dependencies  https://review.openstack.org/33487909:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Run RHEL system unregister element earlier  https://review.openstack.org/33286609:32
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478709:33
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add repositories for Charm layers  https://review.openstack.org/33488009:34
AJaeger_fungi, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++branch:master+topic:bindep-xvfb has some changes to add other-requirements  - and I still have some questions ;)09:35
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jtyrIt's Jenkins Job Builder project. If you click on the link (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/311150/), you can see more details.09:36
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openstackgerritJames Page proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add repositories for Charm interfaces  https://review.openstack.org/33450209:39
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AJaeger_jtyr: there's a small core team that takes care of it, hope somebody reviews it.09:40
AJaeger_jtyr: I've tried to help you to get reviews - I can certainly go there but will then notice that I have no +2 on it. If you go the extra step of explaining what your change is the right people might look it up - instead of everybody ignoring it.09:42
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openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Workaround for resource-agents bug  https://review.openstack.org/33488509:48
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Add dependency for bridge-utils package  https://review.openstack.org/33488809:55
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openstackgerritYAMAMOTO Takashi proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add networking-midonet to the "releasenotes from mitaka" list  https://review.openstack.org/33488909:56
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable translations for networking-{midonet,ovn}  https://review.openstack.org/33489209:59
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478710:13
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openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/groups: Link group name to group URL in status report  https://review.openstack.org/30635310:20
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jtyrAJaeger_: Sure. The change is adding ability to define Property File in the Pipeline plugin. That allows to create a file with environment variables which are then read by the consecutive job in the pipeline. A very useful feature which should be definitely added into the JJB.10:35
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478710:35
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Ensure that ca-certificates directory is created  https://review.openstack.org/33490710:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/groups: Link group name to group URL in status report  https://review.openstack.org/30635310:40
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Nothing to see here  https://review.openstack.org/11101111:06
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Require cert file to be present before rabbit  https://review.openstack.org/33493611:13
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Disable translations for networking-ovn  https://review.openstack.org/33489211:16
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Fix certificate path naming and races  https://review.openstack.org/33493611:17
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478711:29
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Fix dependency on keystone keys  https://review.openstack.org/33495111:38
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478712:18
openstackgerritRichard Theis proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 job for networking-ovn  https://review.openstack.org/33458512:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard: List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33481712:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: List system dependencies for running common tests  https://review.openstack.org/33482712:28
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openstackgerritAles Komarek proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Adding salt-formula-midonet and salt-formula-swift repos  https://review.openstack.org/33500612:56
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mnaserthere's a small bug on the summit site, not sure where to report.. https://i.imgur.com/SX48CMN.png13:04
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AJaegermnaser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-org is launchpad area for the website13:11
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sshnaidmyolanda, hi, can you please look at gear patch in your time? thanks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334452/13:22
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sshnaidmpabelanger, hi, can you please look at this patch too in your time? thanks ^^13:23
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478713:23
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openstackgerritRichard Theis proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add python34 nv job for networking-ovn  https://review.openstack.org/33458513:35
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EmilienMpabelanger: what is the etherpad with telnet procedure again?13:42
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AJaegerEmilienM: do you look for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/google-telnet https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/firefox-telnet13:44
EmilienMAJaeger: excellent13:44
EmilienMthx13:44
EmilienMjistr: ^13:44
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jistrneat, thanks!13:45
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openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack-infra/puppet-infracloud: Update trust certificates for Redhat  https://review.openstack.org/33504713:59
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fungiAJaeger: why/where are projects like novaclient using xvfb?14:01
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fungiAJaeger: oh, i guess the change topic is somewhat misleading?14:02
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fungidoesn't look like it's actually using xvfb14:02
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fungisome of those do (e.g., sahara-dashboard)14:03
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AJaegerfungi: novaclient was wrong topic ;(14:16
fungioh, hah that was the first one i looked at14:16
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AJaegerfungi, a question on some of the install ones like gate-sahara-dashboard-dsvm-integration. This is a defstack job.14:16
AJaegerWhy is that one installing xvfb at all - and not doing that via defstack?14:17
AJaegers/defstack/devstack/g14:17
fungiyeah, devstack jobs don't/shouldn't use package installation macros but that job configuration may predate devstack plugins14:17
AJaegeryeah, might be. So, whom to ask for devstack plugins? sdague?14:18
fungiunless you can encourage the sahara devs to rework that job14:19
clarkbwell, xvfb is really only needed on headless test setups, not sure it makes sense to always insgall as part of a plugin?14:20
clarkbto me it makes sense xvfb setup wpuld be part of the job since ifs related to how we run those jobs14:20
AJaegerclarkb: *today* with jenkins/data/bindep-fallback we install xvfb on *every* job that is not devstack and has no other-requirements ;(14:20
fungiright, but here we're talking about a devstack-based job14:21
clarkbAJaeger: ya we dont need to do that. just pointing out that aski g sahara to do it in thwir plugin probably iant the best idea either14:21
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clarkbDo we also install firefox via bindep fallback?14:22
AJaegerclarkb: yes.14:22
AJaegerand chromium ;)14:22
clarkbya so those are all related and we can definitely clean them up14:22
fungii don't actually see chromium/chrome in the fallback list14:23
fungihttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/data/bindep-fallback.txt14:23
fungibut firefox/iceweasel are listed yes14:23
AJaegerfungi: you're right. Only firefox is there - and xvfb.14:23
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AJaegerSo, let's do the following: Let's look now at non-devstack jobs and remove the firefox installation there - which means adding an other-requirements file. Example would be gate-storyboard-js-integration from jenkins/jobs/storyboard.yaml14:24
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fungiyeah, that seems like a good one to start with14:25
AJaegerAh, that one has chrome-install - which is not yet in the storyboard other-requirements.txt that I pushed earlier today.14:25
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clarkbto me the best way to handle that is likely with an explicit build step to install them. The reason is its part of our headless job setup and it doesnt make sense for requirementa becuae these services run fine without them. Only clinets need a browwser and frame buffer14:25
AJaegerprojects using gate-{name}-npm-run-{command} from jenkins/jobs/javascript.yaml are also like this14:26
fungiclarkb: we can mark them as test profile requirements only to make it clear they're not runtime requirements14:26
AJaegerfungi: once we have the bindep change in and released ;)14:27
pabelangermorning14:27
AJaegermorning, pabelanger14:27
fungithat way they're not in the default package list checked by bindep but will still get pulled in by our install-distro-packages macro14:27
fungiAJaeger: oh, good point. not _actually_ 100% working there yet14:27
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pabelangerAJaeger: o/14:30
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pabelangerSo yesterday I was able to stand up our UCA AFS mirror, I did need to make a few changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334654/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334671/14:30
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pabelangerwe need to land them so I can remove mirror-update.o.o from emergency if people don't mind reviewing14:31
clarkbfungi: something like that would work, but also remeber you need a step in the jobs yo start xvfb14:31
clarkbso we probably dont get rid of the per job special runner, just minimize its scope14:32
fungii assume those jobs already do that step14:32
AJaegerSo, looking at storyboard as an example, I suggest: (1) Release new bindep once my change is fine; (2) Add [test] sections to test requirements of storyboard; (3) add chrome to storyboard; (4) remove xvfb and chrome install macros from test.14:32
AJaegerNote that storyboard currently does not use the xvfb-start macro.14:32
AJaegerI would leave the npm-install macro in since it installs packages from other repos as well14:33
fungialso i think that job is currently experimental only14:33
AJaegerfungi, yes, it's experimental.14:33
AJaegerstill, something to convert.14:34
AJaegerfungi, clarkb, pabelanger : So, why do we have firefox in bindep-fallback? So that it gets cached for install?14:35
AJaegerThen those packages we install manually like chrome are not cached, correct?14:35
clarkbbecause we used to install on all bare slaves14:35
pabelangerI always thought it was for selenium testing14:35
clarkband bindep fallback just took over for those packages14:36
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clarkbAJaeger: correct I don think chromium was ever part of thr bare slave setup14:36
AJaegerSo, what's the goal for default setup: Have all packages in cache - but minimal install? So, have chromium and firefox on disk but not installed?14:37
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clarkbI think initial goal was package list compat with the bare slaves14:37
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AJaegerclarkb: and moving forward?14:40
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pabelangerAJaeger: as long as 1 project has firefox in other-requirements.txt, we'll cache in on our slave when building DIBs14:42
clarkbmoving forward I think what we are discussing is the idea. Basically keep identifying trouble some aspects of the list and push them down into the projects. At the same time some projects will do it for themselves like swift14:42
clarkbevwntually we shouldnt need the fallback list though that is a long way away14:42
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AJaegeryeah, a very long way - right now I want to do some baby steps on that road.14:43
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AJaegerSo, coming back to the jobs: Do we want to install packages manually in jenkins/jobs that are in the repos? Or how to move forward to retire these?14:44
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clarkbI am fine with using the test bindep stuff then having the job somehwere start xvfb14:45
pabelangerAJaeger: still catching up, in which case would you need to manually install something in JJB?14:46
fungiright, upsides there are 1. slightly simpler job, 2. we make sure that dependency gets cached on our images14:46
AJaegerpabelanger: check npm-install macro14:46
pabelangerAJaeger: looking14:46
clarkbin semi related news now that zuul launcher handles xenial we should consider moving more jobs to xenial. pypy, and maybe a good chunk of dsvm?14:46
greghaynesoh, are there xenial images?14:47
AJaegeronce we moved npm-install usage to xenial, we have all packages there and could remove it as well...14:47
AJaegergreghaynes: yes, there are xenial ones14:47
pabelangerAJaeger: ah, right. I would leave that until the end and then rework it if possible14:47
greghaynesawesome!14:47
pabelangergreghaynes: for a while now14:48
fungiAJaeger: pabelanger: i don't think we'll be able to solve all of the complex cases like those, particularly jobs adding third-party/unofficial package repositories and then installing from them14:48
greghaynespabelanger: hah, I am just out of date14:48
pabelangerfungi: agreed, not right now at least14:48
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AJaegerfungi, the third-party/unofficial repos are something out of scope for now...14:48
fungiAJaeger: pabelanger: bindep's data model doesn't extend past "names of packages known to my present distro package manager's configuration"14:48
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pabelangerya14:48
fungiof which that npm-install macro is an example14:49
fungithough really only for trusty14:49
AJaegerfungi, agreed on both.14:49
fungifor xenial we could handle it with bindep just fine14:49
AJaegerlet's get other-requirements to those repos first ;)14:50
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* AJaeger ignores devstack jobs for now...14:51
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fungithose may also become simpler to improve once we work on maybe switching devstack's package lists to employ bindep too14:51
pabelangerYa, I should be able to migrate our puppet modules shortly, need to dig out my mass publish bomb script14:51
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add xenial tests for DIB  https://review.openstack.org/33507614:52
AJaegerthat was fast, greghaynes !14:52
* AJaeger will be back online later...14:52
greghaynesAJaeger: haha :)14:52
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pabelangergreghaynes: you also need to update zuul/layout.yaml14:54
greghaynesoops14:55
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add xenial tests for DIB  https://review.openstack.org/33507614:56
greghaynespabelanger: ty14:56
greghaynesargh, forgot gate14:56
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pabelanger:)14:57
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greghaynesno patches before coffee14:57
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krotscheckAJaeger: You submitted a few python patches against javascript things....15:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Convert element_dependencies to logging  https://review.openstack.org/32807215:04
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fungihow are those "python things"?15:05
fungikrotscheck: ^15:05
fungikrotscheck: they're lists of distro packages used by your tests15:05
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fungiahh, i see he has some pythonisms (mentioned tox) in the commit messages15:06
krotscheckfungi: Ok, sec, lemme read through those again.15:06
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krotscheckWhat's the purpose of this?15:07
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krotscheckOk, hrm.15:08
openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [magnum] Update mangum dib elements path  https://review.openstack.org/33508415:08
fungikrotscheck: right now we have a list of many packages we used to install on our bare-.* workers but now we install during job runtime instead. the job macro which does that allows projects to specify their own cross-platform list of package names which will be substituted (in many cases significantly reducing teh number of distro packages installed during your jobs)15:08
krotscheckRight15:09
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478715:09
openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack-infra/project-config: [magnum] Update magnum dib elements path  https://review.openstack.org/33508415:09
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fungikrotscheck: also it serves as documentation to developers as to what packages you expect need to be present to run tests locally since projects up to now have lacked much consistency around that15:09
krotscheckI really don't like the name "other-requirements.txt", in a context where there's "requirements.txt" that makes a little more sense, but in these projects it's... not useful? Not descriptive? The context to describe what that name actually means isn't there.15:09
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fungikrotscheck: and there is an available tool they can install to parse that list and tell them what packages they're missing from their current system15:09
krotscheckI like the functionality though, wouldn't mind adding homebrew support to that15:10
rajinirfungi: Looks like I found the issue,  It looks like the job need SCP plugin later than 1.9, but the latest published I can find is 1.8 which doesn't support. 'Copy after failure'option. Where can I get the version using in community jenkins?15:10
openstackgerritAdam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient: WIP: Allow comments to be edited by their owner  https://review.openstack.org/33341815:11
krotscheckfungi: I'm guessing the name is already set in stone?15:11
fungiyeah, i'm not convinced the default list filename makes sense across different language ecosystems, but it's what lifeless had originally specified in the early stages of the bindep tool years ago so it's mostly for historical reasons that it's called that15:11
openstackgerritVladimir Kozhukalov proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Retire fuel-upgrade project  https://review.openstack.org/33508515:11
fungiit's possible we could make bindep look for additional "default" filenames. i'm not sure how much of a bikeshed painting discussion that turns into15:11
krotscheckfungi, lifeless: .bindeprc might make more sense?15:12
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fungikrotscheck: well, the file is meant to serve as visible documentation of your requirements as well15:12
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krotscheckfungi: bindep.yml?15:13
krotscheckEhn, I'm griping. Lemme dig into bindep and see how bad this would be.15:13
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asselin_clarkb, thanks for your help yesterday. I found that its doing a local sudo connection which was requiring a password. I got passed that (and on to the next).15:16
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fungikrotscheck: making it look for a second filename wouldn't be hard (also you can pass it a command-line option to use a specific filename or pass the list on a pipe to stdin), but i do worry that making the list of "default" filenames >1 will eventually lead it it being many as everyone who has an opinion on what it should be submits a patch to add "just one more"15:17
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krotscheckfungi: Right, so we may need to deprecate something.15:18
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pabelangerEmilienM: did you ever land the patch to use our centos-7 cloud AFS mirror?15:18
EmilienMpabelanger: of course15:18
pabelangerEmilienM: mind sending the review? I couldn't see where you were using it15:19
EmilienMpabelanger: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/stable/mitaka/manifests/repos.pp#L2115:19
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EmilienMpabelanger: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I6fe6f93472040bfeb4231fb2c0dfdbf12d2ef99115:19
EmilienMpabelanger: we don't do it on master15:20
pabelangerEmilienM: perfect thanks15:20
pabelangerya, I was only looking on master15:20
EmilienMpabelanger: because we don't use centos mirror15:20
EmilienMpabelanger: we use delorean trunk15:20
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EmilienMpabelanger: but your ubuntu work will be super useful for our stable branches15:20
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pabelangerokay, let me try adding it to stable15:21
EmilienMpabelanger: you'll probably have to do something like https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack_extras/commit/0fcefb98e669d94538344f6f2e30792503f528ce15:21
pabelangeragreed15:21
EmilienMoh wait15:21
EmilienMpabelanger: yeah, we're hardcoding it: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack_extras/blob/master/manifests/repo/debian/ubuntu.pp#L5915:22
clarkbwhy wouldnt you use it for non openstack/delorean packages on master?15:22
EmilienMin https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack_extras/blob/master/manifests/repo/debian/params.pp15:22
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clarkbor is that entire dep tree built by delorean?15:22
EmilienMclarkb: because centos mirrors do not host trunk packages15:22
EmilienMclarkb: right15:22
EmilienMclarkb: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/manifests/repos.pp#L32-L4315:22
EmilienMthis is what you need to run openstack trunk with RDO15:23
EmilienMno need of centos mirror at all15:23
EmilienMclarkb: versus, stable/mitaka or liberty, etc: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/stable/mitaka/manifests/repos.pp#L20-L2215:23
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EmilienMpabelanger: I can do the ubuntu thing if you want, should not be that long to write15:24
rajinir It looks like the job need SCP plugin later than 1.9, but the latest published I can find is 1.8 which doesn't support. 'Copy after failure'option. Where can I get the version using in community jenkins?15:25
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478715:26
clarkbrajinir: we build off tip of master of the plugin iirc but we also have the file published at http://tarballs.openstack.org/ci/scp.jpi15:26
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fungikrotscheck: yeah, deprecation period would probably be somewhat lengthy too. this is a tool used outside openstack, we just happen to have been its originators15:30
rajinirclarkb: Thank you. Just what I was looking for. But why did we not document this on the wiki15:30
fungikrotscheck: the other complication is that right now we have a dib element which looks for other-requirements.txt files across all repos and caches the packages from them on our worker images15:30
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openstackgerritScott DAngelo proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental Cinder job for multibackend  https://review.openstack.org/33067815:36
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add tests for building *-minimal images  https://review.openstack.org/18116215:39
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Perform a booting test for our images  https://review.openstack.org/20463915:47
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: gnocchi: use the correct env for setting the Gnocchi branch  https://review.openstack.org/33510215:49
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack-infra/project-config: gnocchi: fix var for setting the Gnocchi branch  https://review.openstack.org/33510215:57
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openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP, DNM: Cinder multinode grenade job  https://review.openstack.org/33453715:59
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nibalizerif i am reading the logs right static.o.o is failing puppet trying to install the keyring package from pip16:10
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openstackgerritC.J. Collier proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace exeception.message with str(exception)  https://review.openstack.org/33470316:14
openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/groups: User profile migration tool for user name normalization  https://review.openstack.org/33511616:16
funginibalizer: in syslog?16:17
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nibalizerfungi: indeed16:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Fix npm-run false positives  https://review.openstack.org/33458216:17
fungi(/Stage[main]/Openstackci::Logserver/Package[keyring]/ensure) change from 9.0 to latest failed: Could not get latest version: undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass16:17
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funginibalizer: looks like ianw was working on some part of this, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/33427916:19
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nibalizerhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/523800/16:19
fungiyep, that's what i was looking at too16:20
nibalizeri am strugling to reproduce locally16:21
fungikeyring (9.0) seems to be installed now but apparently the openstack_pip provider isn't finding the new version on pypi?16:21
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fungii can successfully install 9.3 into a virtualenv as root on the server16:22
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openstackgerritC.J. Collier proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Replace exeception.message with exception.args  https://review.openstack.org/33470316:23
fungiit pulls in and builds wheels for secretstorage 2.2.1 and pycrypto 2.6.116:23
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nibalizeryah i think the issue is related to parsing pip list --outdated in the provider16:23
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add support for remote element repos  https://review.openstack.org/33139216:23
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Move hook generation in to python  https://review.openstack.org/27113916:23
nibalizerthere are a couple patches up against openstack_pip to handle corner cases16:24
fungikeyring (Current: 9.0 Latest: 9.3 [wheel])16:25
fungivia pip 7.1.216:25
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fungimaybe newer pip solves it?16:25
nibalizerwell16:25
nibalizermaybe the [wheel] is screwing up the parsing is my thought16:26
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Move hook generation in to python  https://review.openstack.org/27113916:26
nibalizerwe had this in ibm last night and they fixed it by just manually upgrading keyring with pip16:26
nibalizerbut I'd like to know why puppet is wedged if I czn16:26
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cjmoo16:27
fungiyeah, looks like pip's output formatting for list --outated changed between 7.1.2 and 8.1.216:27
fungiwith latest pip instead i get this:16:27
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fungikeyring (9.0) - Latest: 9.3 [wheel]16:27
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fungias opposed to 7.1.2's:16:28
fungikeyring (Current: 9.0 Latest: 9.3 [wheel])16:28
openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Add support for remote element repos  https://review.openstack.org/33139216:28
funginot sure what patterns the pip_openstack provider matches against16:28
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fungilooks like that was changed to make the output match pip list without --outdated in the first two space-delimited fields16:29
fungiso that `pip list --outdated | cut -d' ' -f-2` matches up identically with `pip list`16:30
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fungior at least the lines do (which lines are listed is another story)16:31
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cjare there any jjb folks around here?16:32
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cjthe exception I'm getting doesn't tell me much about where in the .yaml I might go looking for a 'NoneType' that is attempting to be iterated...16:32
fungicj: you're probably looking for electrofelix, zxiiro, zaro and waynr16:32
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cjhttp://paste2.org/IY7MnCA516:33
nibalizercj: is your code valid yaml? thats a great place to start16:33
cjfungi: okey doke.  zxiiro seems to be AFK or I'd pester him :-)16:33
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cjnibalizer: should be.  How do I verify?16:33
nibalizerfungi: ah so run-latest-pip is maybe the answer here16:33
nibalizercj: i use this alias yamlcheck='python -c "import sys, yaml as y; y.safe_load(open(sys.argv[1]))"'16:33
cjthanks!16:34
electrofelixcj: looking16:34
cjyaml.constructor.ConstructorError: could not determine a constructor for the tag '!include-raw-escape:'16:34
fungicj: i believe i've gotten "TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable" in the past when my indentation was off somewhere16:34
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cjfungi: okay.  I believe I could have done that.16:35
cjelectrofelix: thanks!16:35
funginibalizer: yeah, making sure pip is updated on all our servers is probably going to get fiddly16:36
funginibalizer: if we can support both formats and get the right information out of them, that might be more helpful16:37
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cjelectrofelix: FYI, here's the change that's giving me this error.  I'm not certain that the error comes from my .yaml and not someone else's in the repo, though, since I'm doing a jenkins-job test -r jjb/16:38
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electrofelixfungi cj: it's a templating issue rather than reading of yaml, though cj is right, there should probably be a logger to debug of what template it's processing and project entry16:39
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cjyeah, I get that error in master where my changes don't exist... so probably not the .yaml I created...16:40
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nibalizerfungi: note https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/puppet-pip+status:open16:42
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electrofelixcj: so it's most likely a project definition, passing in data that is formatted validly but provides an empty list for some of the args used in the name of the template.16:43
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funginibalizer: yeah, the multi-line return fix and the older pip fix are in conflict. i've approved the former since it had reviews and i'll rebase the latter16:44
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nibalizerive been able to reproduce the bug where it uses the wrong version'16:45
nibalizerbut not the nilclass error16:45
fungieven using older pip (7.1.2)?16:45
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electrofelixcj: if you apply http://paste2.org/VxPZFPD5 locally it might provide a bit more insight when running in debug mode, might need some help getting the exact debug message into a format that makes it easier, and we can look at trying to catch the exception in the future and dump this as a log error16:45
electrofelixbut now hopefully this will help you track down the problem16:46
nibalizerfungi: fromm static.o.o logs we're now hitting the 'not actually latest' bug16:46
nibalizerJun 28 16:33:58 static puppet-user[32385]: (/Stage[main]/Openstackci::Logserver/Package[keyring]/ensure) ensure changed '9.0' to '0.8.3'16:46
fungioh, great16:46
fungialso weird16:47
nibalizerhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/523807/16:47
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AJaegerfungi, thanks for explaining bindep. krotscheck, let me double check the commit message. I wanted to remove the tox mention - if I forgot that, I'll edit.16:50
AJaegerAh, I see what I left in...16:51
AJaegerkrotscheck: can we move forward with these changes nevertheless, please?16:51
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fungiokay, i've got 332725 rebased locally to address the merge conflict with 332793 and will push an update for the former once the latter merges16:51
fungiAJaeger: i think krotscheck is hesitant to add a visible file which looks in any way "pythony" to javascript repos and would like to reingineer some parts of bindep to make it less offensive to js developers16:52
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fungiso may need to wait on those16:52
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AJaegerfor me the name of the file is just a  bikeshed discussion ;(16:53
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AJaegerAt least krotscheck's -2 on "this is a python thing" is wrong. It's not...16:54
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fungiwell, javascript is used mostly in user interfaces, so javascript developers are more sensitive to aesthetic choices like file naming16:54
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cjthanks, electrofelix!16:55
cjI'm going to run and grab some wood from the forest.  I'm getting chilly...16:55
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electrofelixcj: I've tweaked it a little more to output the project name as well, that should narrow down the culprit pretty quickly.16:56
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cjokay.  I'll patch that in when I get back.16:56
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electrofelixIf that helps, we can look at where to put it in place to better help in the future16:57
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cjcool.  that sounds great.17:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-pip: Fix search of latest package version  https://review.openstack.org/33279317:01
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pabelangerAJaeger: fungi: which review is that?17:02
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-pip: Fix openstack_pip provider to support old pip  https://review.openstack.org/33272517:02
nibalizerfungi: interestingly after claiming to isntall 0.7.8 what it actually did was install 9.3 - the real latest version17:03
nibalizerthen it idempotently does nothing on subsequent runs17:03
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fungifrwaky!17:03
fungiwhich is an awesomely-typo'd "freaky"17:04
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EmilienMpabelanger: I pushed over https://review.openstack.org/335101 to fix lint, unit tests and add a reno17:04
AJaegerpabelanger: see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++branch:master+topic:bindep-xvfb for all...17:05
EmilienMpabelanger: once it's merged, we'll need to backport it and start using it in p-o-i stable/mitaka & liberty17:05
fungipabelanger: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:bindep-xvfb17:05
openstackgerritMarton Kiss proposed openstack-infra/groups: Fix oauth2 user profile name construction  https://review.openstack.org/33513417:06
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pabelangerEmilienM: thanks!17:06
EmilienMpabelanger: no, thx for your patch17:07
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pabelangerAJaeger: fungi: thanks, looking now17:07
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EmilienMShrews: hey, did the ansible fix for async landed upstream yet?17:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Add xenial tests for DIB  https://review.openstack.org/33507617:16
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funginibalizer: heh, i didn't spot that until you pointed it out. so with the multi-result fix in place, 332725 is now unnecessary i guess?17:20
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nibalizerwho knows17:22
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nibalizerim trying to make sure my finglonger spec looks right for the meeting, so not really focusing17:22
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fungiyeah, i guess the resultant regex is now mostly the same. ' (.*) ' vs ' ([^\s)]*)'17:23
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AJaegerpabelanger: any comments on the changes?17:29
AJaegerpabelanger: most important change is one for bindep: https://review.openstack.org/334421. Hope lifeless likes this now ;)17:29
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openstackgerritJeremy Stanley proposed openstack-infra/puppet-pip: Fix openstack_pip provider to support old pip  https://review.openstack.org/33272517:30
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funginibalizer: ^ actually i rebased badly the first time17:30
krotscheckAJaeger: Yeah, we can, just a minute, was at lunch with people.17:31
krotscheckI mean breakfast17:31
cjelectrofelix: no "expanding template" in the output... do I need to run with verbose or some such?17:31
AJaegerkrotscheck: breakfast is important - even if it's dinner time here ;)17:31
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krotscheckAJaeger: I strongly dislike that file name though17:31
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krotscheckThe tool is useful, but it presumes python.17:32
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krotscheckAlso, I'm not certain lifeless is still doing OpenStack things.17:33
AJaegerkrotscheck: I heard that. Yeah, it's analogous to test-requirements etc. We could change it...17:33
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AJaegerkrotscheck: lifeless  heavily reviewed 334421 - so he does a bit at least17:33
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electrofelixcj: yes, turn on debug logging, 'jenkins-jobs -l debug ....'17:34
pabelangerAJaeger: no comments now, things look as expected. I'll review 334421 shortly17:34
cjelectrofelix: that was much more helpful17:35
cjhttp://paste2.org/B4GIOCbY17:35
cjnow... what doesn't it like about this?17:35
openstackgerritSpencer Krum proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs: Add hoc automation: finglonger  https://review.openstack.org/31094817:36
AJaegerpabelanger: no comments is fine for me - thanks!17:36
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electrofelixcj: sorry I forgot to include the tweaked one: http://paste2.org/dUVHZheL17:44
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ShrewsEmilienM: nope. https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/1645817:44
EmilienMShrews: ack, thx17:44
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electrofelixcj: that will also include the project listing so you can find it. The problem with the inputs is for different streams for some project it has listed 'rolling', 'hydrogen', 'helium', 'lithium', & 'lithium', where the following item is None instead of ('branch', <name>), which is true for all the other entries such as 'jessie', 'stretch', 'trusty', 'xenial', & 'yakkety'17:47
electrofelixcj: though I need to step through the code to be certain of my diagnosis17:47
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cjoops.  'current' should be current, not lithium17:48
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openstackgerritLucas Dutra Nunes proposed openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder: Properties: fix copyartifact permissions with several projects  https://review.openstack.org/33465617:49
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cjhurm... it might be wise to limit the stream to the OS to which it belongs...17:50
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cjdebian -> [wheezy, jessie, stretch], ubuntu -> [trusty, xenial, yakkety], kali -> [rolling], vyos -> [hydrogen,helium,lithium,current]17:51
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electrofelixcj: so http://paste2.org/yPm9MdhB might be more useful to explicitly output the template/project/values that caused the issue only when an exception is caused expanding, would you mind trying and providing feedback on it?17:55
mrhillsmanhey fungi you around?17:56
inc0fungi nibalizer clarkb howdy, questions I have. Let say we deployed openstack, VMs gets routable ipv6 and it's all good and pretty17:56
inc0what are next steps till we get CI up and running?17:56
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fungimrhillsman: yep, trying to prep for the weekly infra team meeting in an hour, but can make a few minutes. what's up?17:56
electrofelixcj: for that patch, should no longer need the debug option on, it should output by default since it's using error17:56
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mrhillsmanfungi: inc0 question17:57
cjelectrofelix: http://paste2.org/vgJXHYkj17:57
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fungiinc0: assuming performance profile for these will be roughly the same as our current osic instances, probably getting the tenant credentials from you is next so we can configure nodepool17:57
nibalizerwe'll also need to spin up a mirror17:58
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inc0performance will be very similar17:58
nibalizerthough i suppose if it is network close we could use the long-lived osic mirror that we already have17:58
inc0same hardware17:58
funginibalizer: i wonder if we can reuse the current osic mirror effectively17:58
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fungiyeah, that17:58
inc0should be doable, it's same DC17:58
nibalizerinc0: strong links between the clouds?17:58
electrofelixcj: used wrong variable name, forgot to use template_name instead of template17:58
fungiit's all the same cloud, right?17:58
mrhillsmanit is not unfortunately17:59
inc0I dunno how net is configured, but there is change of having 10G spanning between them17:59
fungioh, right, same hardware, but new grouping17:59
mrhillsmanright17:59
inc0mrhillsman, you sure?17:59
inc0can't we get one vlan spanning between these two?17:59
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mrhillsmani'm pretty sure they are all segmented17:59
nibalizerwe dont need the same vlan17:59
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mrhillsmanthat can be checked/confirmed/resolved17:59
fungiwell, we just rely on routed connectivity between our mirror server and our job nodes18:00
mrhillsmanshould be routable18:00
nibalizeras long as wget works with decent performance, thats what matters18:00
inc0well, it's same DC18:00
fungimore of a question of what sort of bandwidth/latency to expect between our existing osic tenants and the new one18:00
clarkbthere is no ipv6 in existing osic18:00
mrhillsmaninc0 i think better would be to use the one deployment/utility server18:00
clarkbso this only works if we have v4 in new cloud or add v6 to old cloud18:01
fungiso anyway, to be on the safe side, we might want to just replicate what we do elsewhere. two tenants one of which we use to put our mirror server in and the other we configure nodepool to use for spinning up and tearing down test nodes18:01
mrhillsmanand that18:01
inc0mrhillsman, you mean one infra mirror between both regions? I'm good with that unless there is some strange network bottleneck in between18:01
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mrhillsmanhere's the thing i am concerned with inc018:01
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mrhillsmanif we have to bring down the environment in a manner that the mirror is lost18:02
mrhillsmanor any data that should be persistent is lost18:02
electrofelixcj: I think http://paste2.org/0ZZCJfwt is the final version of that, should be much clearer now, and you can remove the old patch that added the previous debug log messages. this one should be sufficient by itself.18:02
mrhillsmanhow difficult is that for infra team to resolve18:02
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fungiteh tenant where we put the mirror server needs global ipv4 and ipv6 (dual-stack preferably) for one instance, the other tenant can i think get by with just global v618:02
mrhillsmanand is that something that they are ok with18:02
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fungiwell, the mirror server is just a cache frontend, but it would need to be manually relaunched when the environment is refreshed at the moment18:03
electrofelixcj: have to run, so I'll check with you tomorrow18:03
inc0fungi if you can provide us method to do it, we can do it after deploy18:03
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openstackgerritScott DAngelo proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add experimental Cinder job for multibackend  https://review.openstack.org/33067818:04
inc0a playbook or whatever to set it up would be ideal18:04
cjelectrofelix|afk: http://paste2.org/1sVn7wM118:04
cjsounds good.  thanks!18:04
fungii haven't built one yet, so i'll let one of the others speak to how smooth the mirror server deployments are at this point, but i expect that's doable18:04
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inc0well, at least show us how to do it, we can deal with playbook18:05
mrhillsmanso thinking along those lines, anything else that could be an issue or should be addressed/thought about?18:05
fungithey're just serving up files from a read-only public afs cell, so there shouldn't be any special credentials needed to make one18:05
mrhillsmanand the tenant creation is automated?18:06
fungiwe do have to update dns for that server when it's launched (if it doesn't get to reuse the same global addresses between environment refreshes) since the job nodes reach it by hostname18:06
mrhillsmanas well as resources - images, networks, etc?18:06
inc0we can ensure same IP I'd guess18:06
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mrhillsmanyeah, that would (should) be the case18:07
fungiimages we build and upload automatically. some of tenant creation _may_ be automated because we needed that for bluebox and infra-cloud, but i don't actually know the status there18:07
mrhillsmani cannot think of any hangups in that regard18:07
fungimost of our resources are donated by cloud providers who aren't going to grant us teh ability to create tenants ourselves18:07
inc0well, we don't have issues with that, it's rather about streamline process18:08
mrhillsman^18:08
inc0so we won't take your time whenever we redeploy18:08
fungiso we're mostly used to the provider handing us a could precreated tenants with accounts and an available provider network18:08
fungis/could/couple/18:08
mrhillsmanthat's perfectly fine18:08
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mrhillsmanwhatever we can automate about the process is ideal18:09
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clarkbin fact bluebox cloud isnt useable right now because we haveto provision all the things and only one person has access to credentials?18:09
mrhillsmanand that is something we could do on our end18:09
clarkbthe public cloud here is an account is better18:09
inc0https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-redeploy-notes <- let's use notebook:)18:10
fungioh, is that why bluebox is down for us again?18:10
mrhillsmani just want to play devil's advocate to ensure we are thinking about most/all that could happen and address as much as we can18:10
clarkbfungi: yes they upgraded cliud and blew away everything. now mordred needs to make us accoumtd and stuff aiui because he has access to the semi afmin thing18:11
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inc0ok, can someone please tell us what's involved in this process?18:12
inc0we can make ansible playbook out of it later18:12
inc0seems like something you guys could use;)18:13
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nibalizerclarkb: oh i didn't know bluebox was in a weird state18:14
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nibalizerdo we not have the credentials in the credentials files?18:14
fungiwell, as i said we already have much of it automated for infra-cloud, and crinkle is probably more familiar with that (also rcarrillocruz but he's on holiday at the moment)18:14
nibalizer... I can probably go poke folk...18:14
mrhillsmanwould be good to get it on the etherpad then we can work on it18:15
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inc0fungi let me as this way: will that mirror setup be a problem?18:15
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inc0let's assume worst case scenerio which is we can't use existing osic one18:15
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fungibut i don't know how much of the existing work in our infra-cloud dependencies is specific to that particular stand-up-a-fresh-cloud use case and how much can be extracted out to just to tenant/account management18:15
krotscheckAJaeger: Responded to those patches. Still -1, I'm afraid, but most of those packages are under infra, so you can always have the infra-cores override me.18:16
fungiinc0: no, it's a few minutes of somebody's time to launch the replacement server. depending on available disk it may be slightly more so that we can also add a cinder volume to use for the afs cache dir18:17
fungii hesitate to say how many minutes, as i haven't built one yet but it's all puppeted18:18
inc0fungi fair enough, I'm sure we can automate that even if we don't have it right now18:18
nibalizerfungi: we dont have to wait for it to fill though right? it just sorta caches?18:18
nibalizernot like a 2 hour rsync in the middle there or something18:18
nibalizeroh but we need to upload images right? and that does take some time18:18
funginibalizer: right, it just starts with a cold cache and builds it up as it gets requests18:18
inc0we can figure out a way to pull that stuff from existing cache18:19
inc0if that ever becomes a problem18:19
fungiyeah, if it's possible to cache images we've uploaded to glance and reincorporate them into the new tenant when redeploying the environment, that would probably save ~24 hours18:20
inc0or populate cache prior to restoring the workload18:20
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inc0ok, let's not try to solve it now, there are solutions18:21
mrhillsmanright18:21
fungisince we normally have to wait for nodepool to go through its daily image rebuilds and try to upload them18:21
mrhillsmananything else18:21
fungiwe _can_ tell nodepool to reupload already built images to a particular cloud, though it's semi-manual and still takes some time due to the size of the images18:21
inc0how long would it take for you guys to move us from "here are creds" to first CI job running?18:21
funginormally a week or two but since we already know thw performance profile for these instances we can probably skip the baseline benchmarking18:22
fungiso probably a couple days depending on who has available time to do it18:22
inc0any way we can help out?18:22
fungiand assuming no unexpected hurdles18:23
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inc0or even, can we do it ourselves? do you have any resources for that?18:24
fungiwell, most of it is obtaining, recording and testing out the credentials, double-checking quotas, then writing changes to add entries for the new provider in the os-client-config and nodepool configs18:24
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fungiand having core reviewers review and approve that addition18:24
mrhillsmancan we persist that data?18:24
mrhillsmanon our end18:24
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inc0mrhillsman, I'd say playbook to spin up stuff? like quota and whatever18:25
fungito speed along redeploys sure, but the first time around there's nothing to cache (yet)18:25
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mrhillsmani am again thinking about worst case scenario, having to redo everything18:25
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inc0mrhillsman, don't forget that we own our time of redeploy, we can hold on with redeploying until we have stuff sorted out18:25
mrhillsmaninc0 yes, we can automate all of that18:25
inc0and the very worst case scenerio...we'll just do this again manually18:26
mrhillsmanyes, that would be the sop18:26
fungioh, the other issue we frewuently get uhng up at is identifying the reachable provider network, making sure we disable security groups for it, and do some initial connectivity testing18:26
inc0so provider net won't change, and secgroup setup will be automated18:26
mrhillsman^ more of this :)18:26
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inc0yeah, we'll just need to make sure to note every change we do18:27
mrhillsmanwe'll let you all get to your meeting18:27
fungiand then it's on to launching the mirror server (which we normally do from our root sysadmin bastion since it needs credentials to the tenant where that instance will be deployed), addit it to public dns once we know the ip addresses, making sure we test that we can log into it and that it's communicating with the afs cell properly18:27
inc0actually, I'll join meeting if that's ok;) maybe we'll get some open time to discuss18:27
mrhillsmanbut if we can fill this out for the most part by the end of the week that would be great18:27
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clarkbmeeting doesn't start for another half hour fwiw18:28
fungiinc0: please feel free! it's a light agenda so far18:28
mrhillsmanoh ok18:28
rcarrillocruzfungi: the intent is to have automated deployments of control plane and cloud mirrors with ansible and cloud launcher. As for infracloud being reusable, there are quite a few opportunities to refactor and unhardcode things, yolanda told me she pushed changes on that front today18:28
fungircarrillocruz: oh, neat--thanks for the heads up18:28
fungiyolanda: thanks for working on that!18:28
inc0rcarrillocruz, that'd be exactly what we need18:29
inc0I'd love to help18:29
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rcarrillocruzMainly because of being reusable for future infra cloudS and OPNFV folks willing to reuse our current infracloud18:30
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fungipleia2: any objection to me putting the wiki modernization spec up for approval this week? i read through and it lgtm18:31
fungiand we've already done some of what's listed in it, so would be good to have this officially in place as a plan we're working through18:31
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nibalizerfungi: i think thats a capital idea18:34
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fungii've added it, in anticipation of not needing to apologize for doing so, but can take it back out before the meeting starts if needed18:35
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AJaegerkrotscheck: understood. Let's see whether fungi or others have a good suggestion on how to move forward with other-requirements.txt18:35
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krotscheckAJaeger: It feels like there's at least a willingness to make that file name more generic, it's just a question of how squeaky a wheel one has to be to get it done.18:41
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rockyghey guys, anyone around who can open up the wiki for a new user account?  I need to get Anni Lai on so she can put the board minutes up.  I'm coaching her18:42
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rockygI know you guys do it for a fifteen minute window.  I also know I've got some privileges, but even if I have that one, don't know how to do it, so....asking the experts.18:43
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fungirockyg: i can18:44
fungirockyg: anni should be able to do an initial login now to create a new account18:45
rockygthansk18:45
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fungilet me know as soon as it's taken care of and i'll switch it back again18:45
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Have explicit jobs per test node image  https://review.openstack.org/33516618:47
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478718:48
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-dev/hacking: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33367018:48
clarkbpabelanger: fungi ^ I think we need to start mocking up our options there and make a decision then start switching to xenial soon18:48
AJaegerkrotscheck: If somebody comes up with a good concept on how to do it, I can help with implementation - but I'm not trying to find consensus for a design.18:48
rockygand thanks again, fungi.  She's in and editting18:48
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33516918:49
fungirockyg: thanks! i've closed it back down again now18:49
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pabelangerclarkb: ya, I haven't been pushing on xenial recently. I think zuul-launcher is stable enough for us to loop back to it now18:49
clarkbpabelanger: and we are deep enough in the cycle that if we don't start working on it soon we may not get it done18:49
clarkbpabelanger: anyways I am trying to come up with a zuul and jjb setup that I like for this. I was not a huge fan of what I did for precise/trusty split but mocking up this alternative I don't like it either :)18:50
pabelangerkrotscheck: AJaeger: I think we default to other-requirements.txt for now, get bindep working. Then projects can override the filename today by exporting a variable in a job.  I had to do that with a puppet job recently because of a path issue18:51
krotscheckpabelanger: That pushes the onus back on the project, which I'm not ok with.18:51
pabelangerclarkb: Ya, I think we can start focusing on it now18:51
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* krotscheck is going to reject anything that converts this to a Somebody Else's Problem field (i.e. mine).18:52
clarkbkrotscheck: is it really a problem though? its a single file in a repo that yo ualmost never have to think about unless you are doing a fresh install or packaging18:52
clarkbpabelanger: we should probably kick off our experiemental dsvm jobs too to make sure we havne't regressed there . Iwill do that now18:53
pabelangerclarkb: sure18:53
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clarkbpabelanger: hrm we don't appear to have those jobs on devstack-gate?18:55
rockygclarkb, krotscheck:  so who are the most likely people outside of the community to be doing a fresh install?  Will they need this?18:55
pleia2fungi: fine by me, but I'm conferencing today, next talks I'm attending are during our meeting18:55
krotscheckclarkb: it's less a question of the scale of a problem, and more an issue of "can someone else please do the yak shaving this time".18:55
krotscheckAnd, as I said: Y'all can override my -1.18:55
pleia2fungi: I will catch up in logs and review comments as needed :)18:55
clarkbkrotscheck: I am saying there isn't a need for any shaving18:55
fungipleia2: no problem, and good luck on your talks!18:56
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krotscheckclarkb: So, next time I want to, say, have npm mirrors, I should just create an entirely new set of hosts, rather than shave the unified mirror yak for you?18:57
clarkbkrotscheck: what? I am just saying its a minor file in repos that most people need never worry about18:57
* krotscheck sighs.18:57
clarkbwe don't need to create a ton of work to undo all of the existing work because that is what is require dto do what you want18:57
krotscheckAlright, my comments on the review stand. I'm not changing my vote. You can override me if you so choose.18:57
pleia2fungi: thanks :)18:57
krotscheckclarkb: I recommend that you read my comments on the review. They're a legitimate reason why I don't like the patch.18:58
clarkband regardless of what we do choose $lang is going to object because they call it something else18:58
krotscheckWhich is a perfectly good reason to downvote something. I'm not going to erase my vote because it's a minor enough issue, but I'm also not going to stand in the way of infra overriding it.18:59
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add TripleO 3-node job  https://review.openstack.org/32609518:59
clarkbkrotscheck: I am not asking you to erase anything...18:59
slaglepabelanger: that's rebased now ^18:59
krotscheckclarkb: Coolio.18:59
krotscheckclarkb: You're asking me to not -1 something, right?18:59
slaglepabelanger: we still can't yet deploy an aio overcloud with tripleo, so that's why it's still 3 nodes right now18:59
clarkbkrotscheck: no I am arguing for why changing the name of other-requirements is not worth the effort at this point in time19:00
clarkbwhether or not you -1 something is up to you19:00
krotscheckclarkb: I'm not arguing that point.19:00
fungiit's that (weekly infra team meeting) time again! find us in #openstack-meeting for the next hour19:00
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krotscheckclarkb: I'm saying that I won't +2 something unless it's less python-specific.19:00
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clarkbpabelanger: aha! they are the experimental prefixed named jobs19:03
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clarkbkrotscheck: I think that argument is better in bindep itself not where we are using it19:03
clarkbpabelanger: ok got xenial jobs queued against a merged d-g change. Should tell us if the "base" set of jobs is still happy there19:06
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pabelangerclarkb: Ya, its been a while since i last tested them.  Hopefully still working19:06
pao_Hi, I've seen that Zuul is moving away from Jenkins and going Ansible. All good, no complaints there. Is the master branch of the Zuul repository meant to be the latest and greatest for use with both Ansible / Jenkins though?19:07
pao_The reason for asking is that I recently spent some time automating a complete gerrit/jenkins/zuul stack and I saw so many poorly exceptions that isn't handled well in Zuul that it made we wonder why Zuul was in such a poor shape or if I had the wrong branch.19:10
pabelangerpao_: Yes, both should be supported in master.  However we don't see many people using zuul-launcher in their CI environments currently.  I mean, we cannot stop people from using it, but it really is meant to be a stepping stone to get us to zuulv319:10
pao_Ok. Thx. I have some spare time potentially coming up, and I was just wondering why the exception handling in several of the programs is so bad? Is there any reason why they are not properly caught?19:11
pabelangerpao_: do you have any examples of exceptions? For the most part, everything we have is autoamted19:11
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clarkbif I had to guess its newer gerrit with new event types raising exceptions19:11
pao_As it is, I mean the merger won't even shut down properly. It will hang because of unhandled exceptions coming all the way through to the main handler19:11
clarkbwhich is expected/normal19:12
pao_I am just reflecting on Zuul code, not anything to do with Gerrit.19:12
clarkbpao_: yes zuul processes input from gerrit, and at least one common type of exception is to run with a newish gerrit with has newer events that zuul doesn't understand19:12
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clarkbzuul will raise an exception for that saying "I don't understand" but is happy and will continue processing the rest of the queue19:12
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pao_Yes I saw that too. Replication events are not handled. Instead it blows up19:13
clarkbpao_: it shouldn't blow up, i tshould successfully log the issue and move on19:13
pao_(I think it did, I had to turn off replication)19:13
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clarkbwe use replication...19:13
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clarkbI am also not aware of any current zuul merger issues, ours tend to ru nfor quite a while. In any case pabelanger's suggestion of sharing more data would be useful19:14
pao_Ok, I might be wrong. But anyway, is there any particular reason why there is no handling? Does any mind if I make some contributions to clear up all that I've seen?19:14
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clarkbpao_: in the case of the new events its so that you don't need to couple specific versions of zuul with specific versions of Gerrit19:14
clarkbpao_: so fixing that would be adding support for new event types but not necessarily removing the "I don't understand this event" handling19:15
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pao_I am talking very basic exception handling. Here is one example: https://paste2.org/2wm5cYNy19:17
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pao_Here is another https://paste2.org/xUUJUpwC This was when I was trying python 2.6. Nowhere in the documentation does it say not supported and there is no checks anywhere to stop you.19:20
pao_You just get a silent system that fails.19:20
pao_In fact almost all exceptions I've seen generate a silent end user experience. Without access to logs one is clueless and in some cases even the logs don't help19:21
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pao_I had a look at the story board which mentioned similar symptoms and from what I have seen I am not at all surprised at this, since I had the same experience19:22
clarkbpao_: python2.6 is not supported and the trove specifiers should state that19:22
pao_Nothing complains as far as I can tell.19:23
clarkbhttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/zuul/tree/setup.cfg#n17 I am wrong, so we should remove python2.6 from that list19:23
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Add TripleO 3-node job  https://review.openstack.org/32609519:23
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pao_Ok. Just to be clear I am not coming in to dump a pile of shit on you, I am just somewhat surprised that the quality was the way it was and I don't mind contributing, but of course I don't want to waste my own or your time with a lot of fixes that you don't want19:24
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clarkbpao_: I think generally we would encourage fixes. I thinkwe also need to set expectations properly. Usually you would not explicitly check in every program what version of python is used and error if it isn't appropriate19:25
clarkbinstead you would state I work with python2.7 and if someone uses a different version sorry19:25
clarkbso definitely push a removal for the python2.6 trove specifier19:25
pao_My experience was that the setup/configuration of a complete solution was quite poorly documented, and there is an element of trial and error. The problem then being the way exceptions are handled and so on, doesn't make it easy to figure things out19:27
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clarkbpao_: did you find the zuul docs? they are in tree and hosted at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/ if you find pieces are missing patches to that too would be good19:34
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clarkbpao_: the only thing if yo ustart to make major changes is jeblair may want them on the zuulv3.0 branch to simplify merging later19:35
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clarkbI think he may be at an event this week, but if you send mail to the infarstructure mailing list he will probably see it19:36
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clarkbpao_: for the zuul merger traceback you posted, looks like it received a sigterm which killed the main thread but not the others. Zuul runs with quite a few threads and if they aren't daemonized or have explicit shutdowns then this can happen. I am going to guess a new thread was added that should be daemonized19:40
clarkbI want to say gear has been a source of these issues in the past19:41
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478719:50
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krotscheckWhat's the current status of the openstackid effort? If we build up an openstack auth for the hosted IRC client that we're thinking of in 319506, should that be focused on OAuth2 or UbuntuOne?19:55
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clarkbkrotscheck: openstackid's docs are hosted at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/openstackid/ should list what it supports. Our zanata servers use it as does www.openstack.org19:59
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openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add support for influxdb datasource  https://review.openstack.org/30605020:01
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krotscheckclarkb: Coolio. So any new auth should use that?20:02
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clarkbkrotscheck: I am not sure we are saying all new things should use it yet because we need to figure out how to migrate users off of LP/ubuntu, but for properly detached things (persistent IRC client is detached from other services I think) its likely a good option20:03
clarkbfungi: ^ that make sense?20:03
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krotscheckclarkb: Right- I'm referring to the -1 auth vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319506/20:04
fungiyeah, there's another concern though which is that the spec assume s some explicit user management20:04
krotscheckdocaedo has already reached out to the devs on The Lounge, and they're receptive to having someone build an OpenId auth method20:04
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krotscheckOther than that, my biggest issue is that we're effectively hosting a bouncer for N == ? users.20:05
fungibecause we really can't, i don't think, have this wide open to anyone who wants to hide their malicious irc use behind an proxy (and then have it regularly blocked and have people who need to spend lots of time policing it to make sure it's not being abused)20:05
krotscheckWithout some way of contraining the load on that service (via connection termination, channel restrictions, etc) I'm concerned that it will blow up in our faces.20:06
rcarrillocruzclarkb: re: expectations, thing is i'm not the person to set expectations cos I don't have that kind of info, I'm just passing whatever I'm told along. The folks that manage the DC and the folks from networking are the ones who should tell us a reasonable date to get the gear up and running and configured20:06
rcarrillocruzlet's do this20:06
rcarrillocruznext week i'll send an email to the DC/NET folks20:06
rcarrillocruzi'll cc infra root folks20:06
rcarrillocruzasking for status20:06
clarkbrcarrillocruz: thats fair and yes I think we can ask them directly20:06
rcarrillocruzand reasonable move20:06
rcarrillocruzdate20:06
clarkbrcarrillocruz: it might be worth explaining that we are trying to get together in mid september and that we want to work on this hardware there but need to know if that is viable20:06
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clarkbso that people can plan travel appropriately20:07
fungikrotscheck: if it had a way to limit allowed channels to a specific list, that might be one wat to mitigate general irc abuse. at least then people who want to spam channels with it can only spam ours20:07
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rcarrillocruznibalizer: yes, i plan to go, i depend on approval/budget etc20:07
rcarrillocruzbut given i'm now core (yay!) i hope that will ease things20:07
rcarrillocruzi'd love to talk about how we automate new things coming to infra to one-off actions20:08
krotscheckfungi: Well, the purpose of the lounge would be to provide a way for non-technical people to stay abreast of conversations in openstack. Any restrictions should further that goal, and I think a channel list restriction would definitely fall in line with that.20:08
rcarrillocruzfinglonger + automated deployments20:08
fungihowever, a lot of irc spam these days is via private message (/join #somechan; /names; foreach /msg somenick hi there, want some regulan bloodworm? very fresh! i make you good deal)20:08
rcarrillocruzso i'll check it out the the etherpad you opened and add those topics20:08
krotscheckfungi: Hrm. That's harder to address.20:09
fungicrippling it to not support people using /msg would make for a pretty terrible experience too20:09
fungii'm still pondering options20:09
rcarrillocruzinc0: re: setup of cloud resources once you have an openstack cloud deployed and all20:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder: Release notes for 1.18  https://review.openstack.org/33471120:09
rcarrillocruzwe have talked about using eventually http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ansible-role-cloud-launcher/tree/20:09
clarkbfungi: krotscheck if we are really concerned about abuse I think a user whitelist to start is probably easiset20:09
rcarrillocruzthat role consumes a yaml of openstack resources20:09
rcarrillocruzservers, keypairs, networks, etc20:10
rcarrillocruzeventually, we would have something like a git hook that runs that whenever there are changes to the resources yml20:10
rcarrillocruzor some cron20:10
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krotscheckfungi, clarkb: I agree. We'd need a non-techncial way to request changes to that whitelist.20:10
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rcarrillocruzthat's something we'll have to spec and talk about it, we also need to solve other issues like unique naming on our clouds servers, etc20:10
fungikrotscheck: have them ask in irc? just kidding!20:11
rcarrillocruzbut you can have a look at that to see how things would look like20:11
inc0rcarrillocruz, I like ansible, we'll probably end up hjaving ansible do it anyway20:11
inc0we can upstream it20:11
rcarrillocruzinc0: http://rcarrillocruz.com/deploying-multiple-openstack-clouds-with-ansible-in-a-data-driven-fashion/20:11
rcarrillocruzthat in human language, on how to use the role20:11
rcarrillocruzvery simple to use20:11
inc0good stuff, thanks20:11
rcarrillocruzfungi: so yeah, let me sync with the DC/NET folks next week, i'll send an email or whatever (i'm not a fan of calls tbh) to push things along20:12
krotscheckfungi: Yeaah... hrm. Ya know, maybe an IRC bot that notifies when a non-whitelisted user tries to use IRC?20:12
krotscheckThat might get lost though20:12
pabelangerclarkb: regarding xenial, I have launched our xenial wheel server, but puppet is failing on cgroups. I've been pushing on the puppet work to fix the systemd stuff20:13
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rcarrillocruzinc0: also , in terms on post-provisioning plays on servers you create with that role, it 'exports' a group called 'cl_servers_just_created' for servers that have been created in the play20:13
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rcarrillocruzmeaning, you can target that group to do 'apt-get install ntp; set iptables; $new_server_things'20:13
yolandahi, i missed the meeting today, arrived too late. Looking at backlog now. rcarrillocruz , fungi, i'll tag the patches with puppet-infracloud so they can be reviewed easily20:13
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clarkbpabelanger: I think on systemd systems we may need to talk to systemd about croups20:14
fungipabelanger: clarkb: are we actually relying on that cgroups configuration for anything any more?20:14
rcarrillocruzthat'd be awesome yolanda , i'll review on Monday onwards20:14
rcarrillocruzjust ping me with topic20:14
fungiyolanda: thanks!20:14
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clarkbfungi: sort of, its there to try to keep long lived test nodes alive when their jobs explode20:14
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clarkbfungi: our current long lived nodes don't really run random code anymore so there is less concern but I could see eg wheel builds having a sad based on upstream packaging20:15
pabelangerclarkb: fungi: Right, long lived servers. For jenkins. But not sure if we care about it on ansible any more20:15
fungiclarkb: oh, right... but we can skip that for single_use_slave.pp?20:15
clarkbpabelanger: its not really a jenkins vs ansible thing20:15
clarkbpabelanger: its a what is running on these hosts and is OOM a concern20:15
clarkbfungi: yes single use can explode and we don't really care20:15
pabelangercurrent issue, with cgroup failures is that code expects upstart for start scripts20:15
pabelangerclarkb: right20:16
fungilooking now to see how we might refactor it to not show up there20:17
clarkbwhat the cgroups do is enforce a memory limit below available system memory so that if a job starts eating all the memory it will trigger OOMKiller before system crashes and it will restrict the OOMKiller to processes in that cgroup20:18
clarkbthis way a job can runaway and it will be killed, the long running server remains and can run the next job without ops intervention20:18
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pabelangerYa, I haven't used cgroups much20:19
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pabelangerjust now it is not working on ubuntu-xenail and centos-720:19
pabelangerlooks like a simple init.d fix20:19
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fungiokay, so we're actually only picking it up from here https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/manifests/slave.pp#n3120:20
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pabelangerfungi: ya20:21
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fungiwhich is also our next-level entrypoint for our long-lived job node classes20:21
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fungiwe _could_ just move the "include jenkins::cgroups" line up into those individual classes instead?>20:22
docaedokrotscheck fungi clarkb - was AFK while you were discussing the IRC botnet er .. irc service thing20:22
krotscheck:D20:23
fungipabelanger: clarkb: that way it doesn't factor into the single_use_slave class at all20:23
krotscheckdocaedo: Currently writing up a quick reverse engineering email on OpenID.20:23
docaedomy thinking on that topic was that we could start with a list of users in a yaml, keep that list in a repo, and add users as they request it20:23
docaedokrotscheck: excellent, thanks!20:23
clarkbok xenial jjb/zuul config email sent20:23
docaedoI expect us to offer this as something we want to share with community members that want to be involved on that front, not necessarily put out there for every random person with a passing interest in OpenStack20:24
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fungidocaedo: that seems reasonable as long as there's a gatekeeper to process requests for addition to that whitelist20:24
docaedoI'm sensitive to the administrative cost of maintaining a whitelist of "approved" users, but I definitely do not want this to be open to anyone who tries to log in with an openstack ID20:25
clarkbpabelanger: fungi its entirely reasonable to decide  that we don't want to worry about the OOMing unless it becomes an issue again20:25
docaedofungi: the review process could handle this easily enough, just need to figure out which repo and who the reviewers are20:25
clarkbpabelanger: fungi it was a fairly big issue back when we ran a bunch of static jenkins slaves for non devstack testing20:26
clarkbbut we don't do that anymore and mostly only run code we control. The exception there is wheel builds which will often invoke compilers20:26
pabelangerI mean, it is easier to just drop it :)20:26
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clarkbI am reasonably happy witht hat setup though and think that distros should do something similar by default :)20:27
clarkbnothing worse than OOMKiller deciding to kill somethin actually important rather than the thing eating all the memory20:27
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pabelangerwill defer to fungi but cgroups seems to be the only thing needed for our xenial wheel build20:29
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fungioh, fair point, the wheel builds happen on long-lived job nodes, so we need to solve it there20:30
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lifelesskrotscheck: I'm not paid to work on OpenStack anymore20:30
krotschecklifeless: I thought as much20:30
fungipabelanger: how complex do you think it will be to solve on xenial? how closely have you looked into it at this point?20:30
lifelesskrotscheck: I am still in the community for some things like pbr, bindep and general nosy-business20:30
krotschecklifeless: ...but do you? :D20:30
fungilifeless: nosy business is the vest business20:31
fungier, best20:31
lifelessfungi: I liked the first answer ;)20:31
clarkbfungi: you going to get into the vest business? making vests out of noses?20:31
* fungi isn't sure how clothing factors into it20:31
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478720:31
funginose vests!20:31
lifelessw.r.t. bindep - I don't think a . file is a good idea, this is something that folk should see20:31
fungifor the discerning schnoz20:31
lifelesse.g. like cargo.toml20:31
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lifelessor tox.ini20:32
pabelangerfungi: at this point, we need to solve the systemd server issue. We are defaulting to upstart.  Aside from that, I haven't validated anything about cgroups and assuming our configuration doesn't need to change20:32
clarkbpabelanger: its a kernel config so in theory that interface is super stable20:32
pabelangerclarkb: agreed20:32
fungilifeless: krotscheck: i'm guessing "files visible in your repo" are contextually different in the javascript world such that this is a bigger concern20:33
clarkbpabelanger: also if you haven't ever played with cgroups before they are good fun :)20:33
lifelessI'd be ok with bindep knowing a list of possible default names20:34
krotscheckWell, people will look at the repo saying: "other-requirements.txt" and go "durrr... what's this?"20:34
lifelessif there's a tooling problem that means you need that to work in with js or whatever20:34
clarkbpabelanger: all three xenial jobs ran on xenial and succeeded so no regressions there20:34
krotscheckThe convention that seems to be shaking out in the community has been ".[toolname]rc"20:34
krotschecke.g. .eslintrc, .nsprc, etc...20:34
pabelangerclarkb: Ya, let me see if I can get systemd going first then report back20:35
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/puppet-nodepool: Split nodepool and zuul key  https://review.openstack.org/33426020:35
fungikrotscheck: keeping in mind "what's this" is quickly answered by the comment at the top of the file20:35
openstackgerritTristan Cacqueray proposed openstack-infra/grafyaml: Add support for graph's legend  https://review.openstack.org/30666020:35
krotscheckfungi: Perhaps, but it's a convention that's similar elsewhere. Example: .travis.yml20:36
dstufftObviously you should call it Somethingfile20:37
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dstufftand add it to the Filefile20:37
krotscheckdstufft: I'm a big fan of 'stuff'20:37
dstuffthttps://github.com/cobyism/Filefile20:37
fungimake sure to depend on isfile() though!20:37
* clarkb goes to look at pypy jobs and maybe switching them to xenial nowish20:38
lifelessthis is a vim vs emacs question fundamentally20:38
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clarkbsince I thin kwe can just switch them across the board maybe?20:38
fungii love that the filefile repo has a licensefile20:38
lifelessin that there are different communities of practice with different norms20:38
lifelessI'm ok with the idea that bindep could have a list of files to fit in with different communities20:39
lifelessits a bit ugly, but the problem its solving is a bit ugly20:39
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lifelessand given I'm ok with that, I see no reason to be un-ok with any specific given community-centric name20:39
lifelessso knock yourself out :)20:40
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fungikrotscheck: so i guess if you want a .bindeprc option there, we need to patch bindep to look for a list of filenames (and decide is that a priority ordered list where first match wins, or should it concatenate when it finds multiples?)20:41
lifelessfungi: its a priority sorted list20:41
clarkbit looks like pypy is broken across the board due to incompat with new setuptools and pypy20:42
dstufftfungi: don't forget https://github.com/pyaa/authority/blob/master/Authorityfile20:42
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clarkbtherefore I thin kwe should just switch all pypy jobs to xenial for newer pypy. I will double check on a held node that pypy works on xenial first20:42
fungibeyond that, we need to adjust our install-distro-packages job macro and the install_distro_packages.sh script with similar logic, and also the cache-bindep dib element20:42
lifelessfungi: will they need to change? Do they probe the files existence?20:43
fungiactually that last one may just work20:43
lifelessfungi: perhaps best to teach them to ask bindep about whether it has a file or not..20:43
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fungiahh, the install-distro-packages macro is merely calling install-distro-packages.sh and contains no additional logic of its own20:44
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fungiso, yes we could alter http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/scripts/install-distro-packages.sh#n19 to not look for other-requirements.txt directly, but instead add an option of some sort to bindep to signal if it has a file it knows about20:45
fungialso i'm seeing other logic in that wrapper that might make sense to move into bindep20:46
fungilike the envvar for specifying the file20:46
jpmaxmanfungi - sorry for the delay - just fyi I'm going to reapply the settings changes to the wiki20:46
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fungijpmaxman: okay, thanks for the heads up. i'll double check that something hasn't broken our puppet skip again20:48
fungijpmaxman: should be all clear. the last time puppet touched that server was on the 24th20:50
fungiso it's been hands-off for puppet again for 4 days now20:50
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jpmaxmancool20:54
jpmaxmantrying to login to launchpad I keep getting "Bad Request20:54
jpmaxmanBad bot, go away! Request aborted." :-/20:54
clarkbI have discovered the first pypy issue on xenial :)20:56
clarkbour bindep file restricts pypy to trusty20:57
clarkbthis is actually a fairly widespread issue. fungi is it safe to remove the trusty restriction and just install on all ubuntu generally?20:57
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fungiclarkb: yeah, i believe that would be inline with any precise cleanup20:58
clarkblooks like its trying to accomodate precise, maybe we can just treat precise as not existing anymore20:58
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clarkbkk I will work on those patches20:58
fungiyes, that exactly20:58
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clarkbnow to find the fallback file in git21:03
clarkbfind is awesome, that is all21:03
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fungiclarkb: git ls-files21:06
clarkbits in the jenkins/data dir21:06
fungiyup21:07
jpmaxmanok well weird there's a launchpad / lastpass conflict - had to update to latest lastpass version21:07
jpmaxmananyway21:07
jpmaxmanrecaptcha is going21:07
jpmaxmanand people can create accounts21:07
jpmaxmanam keeping an eye on user creations and change logs21:07
fungijpmaxman: thanks, i'm keeping an eye on those too as time allows21:07
fungisomeone added an account right after you turned it on, looks like (Bh526r)21:08
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add systemd scripts for cgroups  https://review.openstack.org/33522921:08
jpmaxmanyeah21:08
openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Updates to bindep fallback for Xenial  https://review.openstack.org/33523021:08
clarkbfungi: ^ is tested on xenial and seems happy, I think we have a gate job to test it on trusty too?21:09
clarkbpabelanger: ^ also that is a necessary step for starting to use xenial more21:09
jpmaxmandon't think there is anything to be done about creating launchpad accounts - will have to see if they can still edit / create pages21:09
fungiclarkb: we do indeed, and a xenial job21:09
fungijpmaxman: right, i don't expect to stop account creation, just care that we stop spam creation ;)21:09
pabelangerfungi: clarkb: can you help land: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304782/ so we can tested in the gate with puppet-apply21:10
pabelangerclarkb: sure, will look shortly21:10
clarkbalso swiftlcient pypy unitests pass on xenial21:10
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clarkblooks like they pass on trusty as well21:11
clarkbso maybe these do need to be split by branch as well21:11
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fungithat's a good sign21:11
clarkbthough its non voting21:12
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clarkbsince its nonvoting I suggest we just move forward21:12
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fungii think all pypy jobs are presently nonvoting, so yes should be safe to just push the go button there21:13
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci: Split nodepool and zuul-worker keys  https://review.openstack.org/33426121:14
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478721:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/system-config: Add ubuntu xenial wheel mirror  https://review.openstack.org/30478221:22
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pabelangerfungi: clarkb: 335229 fixes our cgroup issue on xenial21:28
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clarkbpabelanger: reviewed, just a small cleanup thing21:33
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clarkbfungi: so my bindep change failed on precise... I guess we have to continue supporting it because wiki and a few other servers are still running it?21:33
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clarkblet me try a new patchset with precise support21:34
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Updates to bindep fallback for Xenial  https://review.openstack.org/33523021:40
clarkbfungi: pabelanger ^ I expect that to be better asusming I got the syntax correct21:40
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clarkbhopeflly we can get that in today so that new images can be built while we figure out splitting jobs21:41
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clarkbyay passes testing this time around21:45
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fungioh, right, we're not completely off precise yet (zuul and static are the biggies)21:47
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Switch PyPy jobs to run on Xenial  https://review.openstack.org/33523821:49
clarkband ^ can be merged once we get our xenial images updated21:50
clarkbafter merging 33523021:50
clarkbtime for food now21:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/irc-meetings: Add vkramskikh to chair of javascript-meeting  https://review.openstack.org/33286321:55
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fungiyep, sorry, got sucked into prepping dinner22:08
clarkbI just ate lunch22:09
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* clarkb is excited. We get to use a real modern linux soon22:19
clarkbI suppose f23/f24 count too but they ar ebroken half the time due to modernes22:20
clarkbfungi: did you see jeblairs email about the job split?22:20
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annegentleanteaya: here's the link to the 2010 Brene Brown talk I mentioned. The title is "The power of vulnerability" https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability I've read her books except for "Rising Strong" which I need to get next!22:24
clarkbpabelanger: did you see comments on 335229?22:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config: Updates to bindep fallback for Xenial  https://review.openstack.org/33523022:27
clarkbis there an easy way to see if a zuul launcher is still using an instance?22:27
clarkbI held one and now need ot check if it is safe to delete22:27
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clarkb2016-06-28 21:11:37,925 DEBUG zuul.LaunchServer: Got termination event ubuntu-xenial-rax-dfw-2075619 fro mthe logs, /me assumes that means it was done with it at that time22:30
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478722:32
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add systemd scripts for cgroups  https://review.openstack.org/33522922:33
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clarkbpabelanger: hrm ^ is failing and I don't quite understand why its complaining about that dep22:53
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clarkboh its coming out of jenkins::params22:54
clarkbwat22:54
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/puppet-jenkins: Add systemd scripts for cgroups  https://review.openstack.org/33522922:55
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clarkbI think we want to set that var based on which part of the if else we execute22:55
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clarkbto either depend on the the unit file or the upstart file22:55
clarkbcommented on change, hopefully that helps22:57
jesusaurclarkb: on the topic of init scripts, did you happen to see https://review.openstack.org/331233 ?22:57
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clarkbjesusaur: I hadn't, will look now (moving has me unable to track work very well)22:58
clarkbI am currently trying to get back into the flow of things now that the bulk of the move is over22:58
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clarkbjesusaur: that was an easy one, thanks22:59
jesusaur:)23:00
bkeroI love those "file { '/something': ensure => present }"23:00
bkeroGreat way to have empty files :)23:00
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack-infra/project-config: Tweak +W rights for the neutron-lib project  https://review.openstack.org/33525023:04
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clarkbpabelanger: ok, I see you modified params.pp but I don't think that is correct becuase we need to make sure those files are in place before the service starts so my -1 should still be valid23:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/puppet-log_processor: Check known pid file when checking service status  https://review.openstack.org/33123323:07
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: [WIP] Add support for OVB based CI  https://review.openstack.org/33478723:15
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notmynamegerrit down for everyone or just me?23:37
clarkbnotmyname: it just loaded for me23:37
notmynameclarkb: thanks. reload worked (eventually). seemed to be a temporary blip23:38
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notmynameopenstack devs: better than pingdom23:42
nibalizerhah23:44
dougwigis there a recommended pattern for running other repo unit tests against a library's changes?23:47
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openstackgerritKarthik Prabhu Vinod proposed openstack-infra/project-config: WIP, DNM: Cinder multinode grenade job  https://review.openstack.org/33453723:49
clarkbdougwig: you'll want to use zuul-cloner to get the correct ref for all the repos. Then you likely need a special job to install that ref into the tox venv23:51
clarkbI think oslo may do some of this already if you look at their jobs23:51
dougwigclarkb: thanks, i saw devstack jobs for oslo, but not units. i'll keep looking, but expected an answer similar to the above.23:52
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dougwigclarkb: oh, that's almost like cheating: scripts/run-tox-with-oslo-master.sh23:54
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