Monday, 2017-11-27

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EmilienMpabelanger: can you get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522864/ please00:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: instack-undercloud: remove legacy job  https://review.openstack.org/52286401:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Clean up releasenotes jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52283001:13
EmilienMianw: thx01:15
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Update neutron-vpnaas grafana dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/52299501:37
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Switch baremetal nics/ports tests over  https://review.openstack.org/52298901:41
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Update neutron-vpnaas grafana dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/52299502:04
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Update neutron-vpnaas grafana dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/52299502:10
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Jeffrey4lhi, why neutron-dynamic-routing-master.tar.gz file in  http://tarballs.openstack.org/neutron-dynamic-routing/ is not updated since 06 Oct04:04
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Jeffrey4lchecked the zuul jobs, think post jobs should be run. but found nothing the logs logs.o.o site.04:05
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Jeffrey4linfra-root ^^04:06
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ianwJeffrey4l: did you find no logs, or nothing in the logs?04:13
Jeffrey4lianw, i can not found the jobs is ran.04:14
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Jeffrey4lnothing from here 78ae7cb8f5bcecaf4cb17577e38401b7d8628f2004:14
ianwJeffrey4l: here's the periodic logs : http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing/master/04:14
Jeffrey4lhttp://logs.openstack.org/78/78ae7cb8f5bcecaf4cb17577e38401b7d8628f2004:14
ianwwhich job should publish it?04:14
Jeffrey4lpublish-openstack-python-branch-tarball i think in the post pipeline.04:15
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ianwJeffrey4l: hmm, to start with, that doesn't seem to be in the post: jobs for neutron-dynamic-routing?04:20
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Jeffrey4lianw neutron-dynamic-routing is using "openstack-python-jobs-neutron" tempalte, and this template contains the publish-openstack-python-branch-tarball jobs04:22
Jeffrey4lin the post pipeline.04:23
ianwok, that makes sense04:24
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Jeffrey4lbut it wont' run. no idea why :(04:24
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ianwhmm, let me poke a bit04:27
Jeffrey4lthanks04:27
ianwsigh ... status.openstack.org seems to be unresponsive04:29
Jeffrey4l:/04:31
ianwit's got the xen kernel timeout errors like we've seen before04:33
Jeffrey4ltry reboot..which may solve all the issue ;p04:34
ianw#status log rebooted status.o.o as it was hung, likely migration failure as had xen timeout errors on the console04:34
openstackstatusianw: finished logging04:35
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Jeffrey4lianw, status.o.o works  now. doesn't this cause the jobs not run?04:36
ianwno that's not it, just noticed it when looking at jobs04:37
Jeffrey4lroger.04:37
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ianwJeffrey4l: ok, there's definitely a non-trivial error here -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/627401/04:41
ianwthis was in response to me triggering : zuul enqueue-ref --tenant openstack --trigger gerrit --pipeline post --project openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing --ref refs/heads/master --oldrev 183c3fa4840d22be1974534eb9e1b28b552f4a42 --newrev 78ae7cb8f5bcecaf4cb17577e38401b7d8628f2004:41
ianwbut when i look back through the logs, the same thing happened with the original event04:41
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ianw2017-11-26 06:14:06,148 for reference in the logs04:43
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Jeffrey4lianw, hrm, what that means? how to fix it?04:46
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Jeffrey4lianw, seems  publish-openstack-sphinx-docs is a final jobs04:47
Jeffrey4lbut publish-openstack-sphinx-docs-neutron try to change the require-projects variable for that jobs.04:47
ianwyeah04:47
Jeffrey4lguess it is not very easy to fix :( ,04:48
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Jeffrey4lis the openstack/neutron really required by this template?04:50
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ianwI don't 100% know ... maybe not04:53
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Jeffrey4lbtw, publish-openstack-sphinx-docs-horizon should have the same issue.04:54
ianwyou know, I think I remember that final: wasn't working and maybe we've switched back, which has broken this04:54
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Jeffrey4lno idea for this :(04:56
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Jeffrey4lbut, i think change the required-projects is useless.05:03
Jeffrey4lhow about just remove this in the -neutron project? ianw05:04
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ianwJeffery4l: yeah, just proposing that and we can get reviews, give me a sec :)05:04
Jeffrey4lcool. thanks.05:04
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove neutron and horizion sphinx jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52301805:08
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Use only base publish-openstack-sphinx-docs job  https://review.openstack.org/52301905:08
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ianwAJaeger -- i think you're probably one of the best to review ^ :)  other solution being to un-finalise the job, i guess05:09
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openstackgerritCao Xuan Hoang proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Update neutron-vpnaas grafana dashboard  https://review.openstack.org/52299506:05
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AJaegerianw: we had some discussion earlier last week about that as well. mordred 's work on topic:updated-pti will solve this as well - but there might be other jobs like these06:08
Jeffrey4lAJaeger, when this issue will be resolved. this block the kolla's jobs. if it takes long. i will push some workaround.06:09
AJaegeras soon as we switch over those docs jobs, they will fail completely right now ;(06:09
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AJaegerJeffrey4l: why does the *docs* job block your tarball?06:10
Jeffrey4lAJaeger, not the docs. it is the publish-branch-tarball. and the network-dynmaic-router project master tarball isn't update since 6 Oct. and there is a bug in the old tar file.06:11
Jeffrey4lthe docs jobs prevent the publish-branch-tarball jobs.06:11
AJaegerBut if we merge this change, the docs job will fail - and those are voting jobs in the gate. Then nothing can merge for any of these projects including network-dynamic-router ;(06:12
Jeffrey4lOK. i will push a workaround in kolla, and make the gate green.06:13
Jeffrey4lbtw, if there any bug track such issue? AJaeger06:13
AJaegerianw, Jeffrey4l, I see two options: get mordred's changes in and then merge the two changes by ianw - that's the best way forward.06:14
AJaegerfor short-term, we could remove the final from the job.06:14
Jeffrey4lAJaeger, please if it is possible ;D06:15
AJaegerbut I don't know the implications of that one, so will not review that without discussion with jeblair06:15
AJaegerinfra-root, can we figure out a way forward on this one today, please? ^06:15
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AJaegerJeffrey4l: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-issues - please add a few lines to it06:16
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AJaegerbut short-term fix would be to change the post jobs - let me propose this06:16
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Jeffrey4lAJaeger, which sections should i put? "Issue with jobs" or Issue with zuul?06:17
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AJaegerwith jobs06:18
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove required-jobs from final docs job  https://review.openstack.org/52302306:18
AJaegerianw, config-core, infra-root, what do you think of this short-term hack? ^06:18
AJaegerJeffrey4l: ^06:20
AJaegerconfig-core, please review https://review.openstack.org/522927 to get translations again on our health board06:21
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Reorg non detailed instance listing columns  https://review.openstack.org/52210306:27
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove required-jobs from final docs job  https://review.openstack.org/52302306:28
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Jeffrey4linfra-root seems tarballs.o.o is down06:39
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Improve test case node_assignment_at_quota  https://review.openstack.org/50613406:41
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Add cloud quota handling  https://review.openstack.org/50383806:41
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Don't fail on quota exceeded  https://review.openstack.org/50305106:41
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Make max-servers optional  https://review.openstack.org/50428206:42
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Support cores limit per pool  https://review.openstack.org/50428306:42
openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Support ram limit per pool  https://review.openstack.org/50428406:42
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Reorg non detailed instance listing columns  https://review.openstack.org/52210306:59
ianwJeffrey4l: i'm not seeing issues with tarballs.o.o ... transient issue?07:03
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: WIP: POC: logs collection from native zuulv3 job  https://review.openstack.org/52255407:04
Jeffrey4lit seems OK right now. tarballs.o.o return very slow just now.07:06
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Collect testrepository.subunit.gz for translations  https://review.openstack.org/52292707:18
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: translations: Use installed os-testr  https://review.openstack.org/52292807:18
AJaegerianw: added README ^07:18
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openstackgerritNiraj Singh proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add masakari-dashboard project  https://review.openstack.org/51655007:24
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sshnaidmpabelanger, clarkb fixed previous issue, still post failure and no logs: http://logs.openstack.org/54/522554/5/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-3nodes-multinode/d5cb089/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-27_08_59_18_31345210:14
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andreykurilinhi folks! I have an issue with zuul-cloner. It fails at one patch(only in one job). Does anyone can help me with investigation the issue?10:30
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Ensure checkout overrides are correctly set for networking-cisco  https://review.openstack.org/51258811:28
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openstackgerritTobias Brox proposed openstack-infra/shade master: bugfix for https://storyboard.openstack.org/#\!/story/2001302 - with unit test modified to pass  https://review.openstack.org/52309511:53
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openstackgerritTobias Brox proposed openstack-infra/shade master: bugfix for https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001302 - with unit test modified to pass  https://review.openstack.org/52309512:05
openstackgerritAlex Kavanagh proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Modify charm-ceph-mon to move project jobs to repo  https://review.openstack.org/52309812:05
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AJaegerconfig-core, could you review https://review.openstack.org/522927 to get translations in OpenStack health status board, please?12:24
openstackgerritTobias Brox proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Allow grant_role to select users outside default domain  https://review.openstack.org/52309512:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Collect testrepository.subunit.gz for translations  https://review.openstack.org/52292712:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: translations: Use installed os-testr  https://review.openstack.org/52292812:33
AJaegerthanks, frickler !12:33
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openstackgerritTobias Brox proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Allow grant_role to select users outside default domain  https://review.openstack.org/52309512:41
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andreykurilin`bin/bash: line 21: /usr/zuul-env/bin/zuul-cloner: No such file or directory` did anyone see this before?12:44
AJaegerandreykurilin: which job?12:45
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andreykurilinAJaeger: rally-install-centos-7 . It was moved without modification to our repo and started failing several days ago. http://logs.openstack.org/21/512321/6/check/rally-install-centos-7/69f1208/ara/12:46
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andreykurilinhttps://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/tests/ci/playbooks/rally-install/run.yaml#L3312:47
andreykurilinI suppose it can somehow relate to https://github.com/openstack-infra/zuul-jobs/commit/6bb1f6046b692ee2038eafd0965bd3095d6fa787 ...12:47
AJaegerandreykurilin: hope somebody else can help you later on this - the links above should be sufficient12:49
andreykurilinAJaeger: thanks12:50
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fricklerandreykurilin: iiuc zuul-cloner is no longer to be used for non-legacy jobs, see https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html#converting-other-legacy-changes .12:59
fricklerandreykurilin: the difference between the original converted jobs and the ones you moved into your repo seems to be that you no longer use legacy-base as parent13:00
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openstackgerritboden proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: periodic py jobs for vmware-nsx ocata and pike  https://review.openstack.org/52153813:35
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add tripleo-ipsec project  https://review.openstack.org/52312413:37
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add tripleo-ipsec project  https://review.openstack.org/52312413:40
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LicedAJeaeger : Hi. Have you found something for bgpvpn translation  issue?13:41
LicedAJaeger : Hi. Have you found something for bgpvpn translation  issue?13:42
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add tripleo-ipsec to zuul.d/projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/52312513:44
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add tripleo-ipsec project  https://review.openstack.org/52312413:48
openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add tripleo-ipsec to zuul.d/projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/52312513:48
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AJaegerLiced: yes, I'm closer - we have a problem with our post jobs and it looks like if one is misconfigured, then all fail. I have a patch up to unblock this, see https://review.openstack.org/523023 . Once that is in, I hope publishing works again for bgpvpn.13:50
AJaegerLiced: sorry for all this - and thanks for pinging. This is a fallout from the switch to Zuul v3 and we need to get this fixed.13:50
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AJaegeryeah, the translation jobs show up on the health dashboard again!13:52
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LicedAJaeger: Okay. Thank you.13:53
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mordredmorning AJaeger14:19
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AJaegermordred: good morning!14:20
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sshnaidmpabelanger, clarkb, I fixed previous issue, but still post failure and no logs: http://logs.openstack.org/54/522554/5/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-3nodes-multinode/d5cb089/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-27_08_59_18_31345214:21
AJaegermordred, could you review my discussion from earlier today (around 6 UTC) with ianw and Jeffrey4l, please? And then advise whether we should go forward with https://review.openstack.org/523023 as temporary step. We need your updated-pti stack in quickly but I don't know what's still missing ;(14:21
openstackgerritTrygve Vea proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Implement availability_zone_hints for networks and routers.  https://review.openstack.org/52200414:24
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openstackgerritTrygve Vea proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Implement availability_zone_hints for networks and routers.  https://review.openstack.org/52200414:24
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mordredAJaeger: yes - on it14:31
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mordredAJaeger: yah - I think we should do that patch as a temporary step - then hopefully we can get both the sphinx job patches AND the reworked base jobs done this week14:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove required-jobs from final docs job  https://review.openstack.org/52302314:42
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Jeffrey4lianw, patch is merged ^^  could you trigger the network-dynamic-router post jobs again?14:46
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AJaegerJeffrey4l: ianw is sleeping now - he's in Australia14:50
Jeffrey4lah, ok could you help me. AJaeger14:50
Jeffrey4lcommand like: zuul enqueue-ref --tenant openstack --trigger gerrit --pipeline post --project openstack/neutron-dynamic-routing --ref refs/heads/master --oldrev 183c3fa4840d22be1974534eb9e1b28b552f4a42 --newrev 78ae7cb8f5bcecaf4cb17577e38401b7d8628f2014:50
* AJaeger doesn't have the permissions ;(14:50
Jeffrey4lok.14:51
Jeffrey4lthanks..14:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade master: Switch baremetal nics/ports tests over  https://review.openstack.org/52298914:55
AJaegermordred: could you enque the above - and do something similar for networking-bpgpvn as well, please? Let me create one for you...14:56
AJaegerzuul enqueue-ref --tenant openstack --trigger gerrit --pipeline post --project  openstack/networking-bgpvpn --ref refs/heads/master --oldrev  fea7bba0f11bb31806ef8c112a16903d04681d38 --newrev dd08171669b37caab0ff787dffe74c281551b93e14:57
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mordredAJaeger, Jeffrey4l one sec15:00
mordredAJaeger: both done15:01
Jeffrey4lthanks a lot.15:02
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AJaegerthanks, mordred15:03
AJaegermordred: I only see the dynamic-routing in post. Any error logs?15:03
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AJaegerI know why - patch coming...15:05
Jeffrey4lsome jobs have been the queue more than 5 hours. something is wrong?15:05
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove required-projects from post docs jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52314415:09
AJaegermordred: we need this as well ^15:09
fungii'm having trouble ssh'ing into ze05... wonder if we lost it15:09
fungihttp://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=580 suggests it died a little over 5 hours ago15:10
fungii'll check the oob console15:10
openstackgerritTrygve Vea proposed openstack-infra/shade master: Implement availability_zone_hints for networks and routers.  https://review.openstack.org/52200415:11
fungiJeffrey4l: thanks for the heads up. i expect those changes had jobs running from ze05 when it suddenly became unresponsive15:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/shade master: Allow grant_role to select users outside default domain  https://review.openstack.org/52309515:13
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fungioh boy, lots of15:16
fungimemory consumption15:17
AJaeger;(15:17
fungioom galore15:17
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AJaegerJeffrey4l: http://tarballs.openstack.org/neutron-dynamic-routing/?C=M;O=D15:17
fungizuul-executor got sniped by the oom killer15:17
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fungioh, that was a long time ago15:17
AJaegermordred, ianw, so that worked15:18
Jeffrey4lAJaeger, yep. i see. thanks15:18
fungimore recently, just lots of messages about hung tasks15:18
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fungiand the console getty isn't responding to carriage return15:18
Shrewsfungi: ooh, i wonder if that's been the cause of our finger daemon dying15:18
AJaegerNow, config-core, please help getting https://review.openstack.org/523144 in to allow other post jobs to run again for these three repos15:18
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Shrewsfungi: the finger daemon will appear as a zuul-executor process since it is forked off the main process15:19
fungiunfortunately the kernel messages are all timestamped in seconds since boot, so i don't know whether any of this corresponds to the server suddenly stopping15:19
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Remove tripleo-buildimage-overcloud-full-centos-7 from gate  https://review.openstack.org/52314615:20
fungithere's a 58-day gap between the oom messages and the ones about hung kernel tasks15:20
fungiso i'm guessing the oom situation was unrelated to the present hang15:20
fungii'll go ahead and nova reboot this15:20
openstackgerritAlex Kavanagh proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Modify charm-ceph-mon to make py27 a voting job  https://review.openstack.org/52309815:21
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fungithe regular (soft) reboot isn't working, gonna have to try --hard15:27
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dmsimardfungi: dmesg -T for real dates :)15:28
fungidmsimard: yep, too bad you can't do that on a hung vm15:28
dmsimardfungi: oh, you were looking at oob console -- I wasn't that far yet in reading the backlog15:29
fungithis was just the kmesg entries on the console from before it ceased responding, yep15:29
dmsimardfungi: pabelanger mentioned some executor issues last friday, he did a #status about it15:29
fungidmsimard: right, the one on friday (ze03) turns out to have been a hung xen host which rackspace eventually rebooted, according to trouble tickets i found a few minutes ago15:30
fungithe zuul-executor processes have started at boot on ze05 now, so let's see if the hung jobs get retried correctly now15:31
fungi#status log Hard rebooted ze05.openstack.org after it was found hung (unresponsive even at console, determination of cause inconclusive, no smoking gun in kmesg entries)15:33
openstackstatusfungi: finished logging15:33
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openstackgerritSam Betts proposed openstack-infra/devstack-gate master: Add fallback to -eol tag if stable branch doesn't exists  https://review.openstack.org/51224515:36
AJaegerfungi, could you +2A https://review.openstack.org/523144, please?15:37
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AJaegerthanks, fungi15:40
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pabelangerfungi: oh, interesting. So, there was an issue with ze03 last week15:43
fungipabelanger: yep, see my comment about the ticket rax opened to let us know about a hung xen host for that one15:43
fungithis looked different15:44
clarkbfungi: did it have the kernel timeout messages in the console log?15:44
clarkbI think rax has been live migrating our instances and some of them (maybe all of them) have failed to do so properly and required a hard reboot15:44
fungiclarkb: just kernel warning messages about hung tasks not responding for n cycles15:44
clarkbI had to reboot es03 over the weekend and I think logstash-worker03 is in the same boat15:45
clarkbfungi: ya that15:45
clarkband ianw had to hard reboot status.o.o15:45
fungiclarkb: right, i wouldn't be surprised if that were the cause for the es03 and ze05 hangs, but have no direct evidence nor tickets from the provider to corroborate15:45
pabelangerfungi: cool, I didn't check is server had be recently rebooted, I should have I guess15:46
fungialso because the kmesg entries on the console are timestamped in seconds since boot, it's hard to know whether those warnings were recent15:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove required-projects from post docs jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52314415:47
clarkbfungi: ya the onl time we got evidence from why this was happening was when ianw called when it happened to review.o.o aiui15:48
AJaegerinfra-root, can you reenque the following, please: zuul enqueue-ref --tenant openstack --trigger gerrit --pipeline post --project  openstack/networking-bgpvpn --ref refs/heads/master --oldrev  fea7bba0f11bb31806ef8c112a16903d04681d38 --newrev dd08171669b37caab0ff787dffe74c281551b93e15:48
fungiseems likely to be the cause for the others (excepting ze03 on friday)15:48
fungiAJaeger: sure, doing that now15:48
AJaegerthanks!15:49
clarkbI think from rax's perspective the migrations were either in progress or successful so we never got the notification that something went wrong15:49
fungiAJaeger: done15:49
fungiclarkb: yep, unsurprising. we've seen the same pattern in the past when they've been doing mass forced live migrations15:50
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AJaegeryeah, running now!15:50
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clarkbsshnaidm: reading that log I think it didn't find any hosts to run on15:53
clarkbsshnaidm: possible that primary and all:!localhost:!127.0.0.2 didn't match any nodes?15:53
jeblairinc0, Jeffrey4l: with 518797, do you want different secret values on different branches, or do you just want one value?  could you just omit the secret definition from that change and use the one defined on master?15:53
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Jeffrey4ljeblair, there is bug in zuul: can not re-define the same secret in different branch. and stable branch can not use the secrets from master branch.15:55
Jeffrey4lso this is workaround.15:55
jeblairJeffrey4l: why can't stable use secrets from master?15:55
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clarkbsshnaidm: I want to say that the collect logs role is meant to run on the executor (eg localhost) and copy from the other nodes?15:56
Jeffrey4ljeblair, i do not know the details. But check the patch 2.15:56
clarkbsshnaidm: so by running it elsewhere the desired effect isn't achieved15:56
jeblairJeffrey4l: oh i think you mean PS3?15:56
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Jeffrey4lah, right. jeblair15:56
pabelangerclarkb: sshnaidm: the zuul.executor patch isn't correct. It should be checked out into {{ zuul.executor.work_root }}/src/git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/ ...15:57
pabelangerpath*15:57
jeblairJeffrey4l: yeah, that looks like a bug.  also, since secrets can be defined in-project, we do need to handle the case where they are defined on multiple branches, so that when you branch a project you don't create an invalid config.  so 2 things need fixing here i think.15:58
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AJaegerLiced: check https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/networking-bgpvpn/master/documents?dswid=9066 and  http://tarballs.openstack.org/translation-source/networking-bgpvpn/master/15:58
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AJaegerWoot! first time build pot files for networking-bgpvpn!15:58
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LicedAJaeger: Yes !!! Thank you for your help16:02
dmsimardclarkb: btw re: configuring unbound minimum TTL16:03
AJaegerLiced: note that right now docs publishing is broken for bgpvpn, mordred is working on it. But the rest works now - so, 2 steps ahead but 1 still missing ;)16:03
dmsimardclarkb: I wanted to send a patch for that but I'd like to do it in zuul-jobs/openstack-zuul-jobs so that it's an easier revert than embedding it in the image. What do you think ?16:03
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clarkbdmsimard: ya making it a job option is probably best and that way jobs that don't talk to many/any external resources can juts leave it as is16:04
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dmsimardI don't anticipate any issues, especially if it's integration tested -- merging it in the nodepool image and hoping for the best scares me16:04
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AJaegerconfig-core, a couple of cleanups on project-config for review sometime, please: https://review.openstack.org/522894 https://review.openstack.org/522895 https://review.openstack.org/52288816:05
clarkbdmsimard: you don't have to just hope for the best, it is relatively easy to build images locally and check them16:06
clarkbdmsimard: thta was a big reason for moving away from snapshot images16:06
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dmsimardclarkb: nodepool images still aren't integration tested though, we've been bitten by that before16:07
dmsimardso I'm reluctant to touch them16:07
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pabelangerdmsimard: clarkb: historically, it was in DIB because of ready-scripts, but now we might be able to use a job to configure the DNS.  It really depends on how many DNS requests happen before the role is run to setup unbound16:13
clarkbpabelanger: we can't completely ues the job to do it imo or shouldn't because we know dns doesn't function in all cloud regions and I think we want working dns regardless of job config16:14
dmsimardpabelanger: I'm designing the role to support the installation and configuration so we can eventually switch 100% to it if we want16:14
pabelangerbut, i agree with clarkb, you should be able to rebuild it locally and testing settings.  Maybe over holidays, I'll hack on DIB build jobs with our elements16:14
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dmsimardclarkb: surely the cloud provider dhcp provides working DNS..16:14
clarkbdmsimard: they do not16:14
dmsimardwth ?16:14
pabelangerclarkb: yah, I think that might be better too16:14
clarkbdmsimard: because some clouds blacklist IPs then don't white list them again when the IP is recycled by another tenant16:14
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clarkbdmsimard: so you get completely unworking dhcp assigned dns resolvers16:15
clarkband this is why we have unbound baked into our images16:15
dmsimardeh16:15
dmsimardbtw something I realized just now is that the default bogus-ttl for unbound is 60 seconds16:15
dmsimardso it means we're actually sending a bunch of DNS queries for the junk domain names projects have in their tests16:16
dmsimardwhich likely further doesn't help potential rate limiting16:16
dmsimardI'll leave it as is for the time being but something to keep in the back of our heads16:17
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mordredclarkb: do you think it's worth considering running caching dns resolvers in each region like http mirrors? so that we configure unbound on each node to forward to our region-local resolver?16:25
mordredclarkb: we could potentially even just add that to the mirror servers16:25
clarkbmordred: the problem with that is the same as running open squid16:25
mordredclarkb: ah - right16:25
clarkbhow do you keep the rest of the cloud/internet from using them inappropriately16:25
mordrednod. excellent point16:26
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clarkbit would be a reasonable thing to do if we had better control over source IP addresses and/or could funnel thta information around and updating things quickly enough16:26
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mordredclarkb: it's too bad that the security group references don't work super well with high volume users like us - this seems like an actual good use case for making a security group which is "allow connections from all the hosts in security group X"16:27
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clarkbmordred: ya but also not all cloud ssecuriy group :/16:27
clarkb(which may actually be due to the other thing too)16:28
mordredclarkb: but, iirc, using that at our scale blows things up - and yes, also the not-all-clouds-security-group thing16:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Setting default log url for tempestmail  https://review.openstack.org/51872316:30
fungiwe could consider some means of authenticating recursive lookups, i suppose16:30
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sshnaidmpabelanger, we need to find a way to see errors without calling infra cores every time16:37
sshnaidmpabelanger, it's only beginning of POC and it's already complicated16:38
dmsimardsshnaidm: what issues are you not finding ?16:38
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clarkbsshnaidm: to be fair the last one totally didn't need any infra core input16:39
clarkband the logs even said exactly what the fix was (which imo is a vastly better experience than before)16:40
pabelangersshnaidm: I didn't look at debug logs for that, I just did a code review. But yes, as mentioned, we have an open issue to bubble up errors into code review to make it easier16:40
sshnaidmclarkb, if I saw log this patch doesn't exist, I'd know at least what's wrong16:40
sshnaidms/patch/path16:40
clarkbsshnaidm: sure there are bound to be bugs I just don't think its fair to characterise this as needing an infra core every time16:40
sshnaidmclarkb, let's say somebody with access to zuul-executor logs16:41
clarkbno you didn't need zuul executor logs is what I'm saying16:41
clarkbit was in the job log and said "to fix this use quotes"16:42
clarkbwhich is imo a much better job debugging experience16:42
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sshnaidmclarkb, I'm talking about next patch16:44
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sshnaidmclarkb, it was wrong path of cloned repos on host, as pabelanger mentioned16:44
sshnaidmclarkb, I didn't see this path in docs, maybe I missed something16:44
jeblairsshnaidm: can you point me at the patch?16:45
sshnaidmjeblair, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522554/16:45
jeblairsshnaidm: docs for that start at https://docs.openstack.org/infra/zuul/feature/zuulv3/user/jobs.html#git-repositories16:46
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jeblairsshnaidm: i agree, we should have output for that error there16:49
sshnaidmyeah, it would be very helpful and useful16:49
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jeblairi'm checking to see if this is one of the known conditions where we are missing logs16:50
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jeblairsshnaidm, mordred: i've added that to the zuulv3-issues etherpad right under a similar issue (missing a 'role not found' error message).  so hopefully mordred can look at the two of those together -- they seem similar.16:54
sshnaidmjeblair, thanks16:54
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: WIP: Fix broken use of pre-existing cloud images  https://review.openstack.org/49805016:56
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sshnaidmclarkb, jeblair pabelanger I wonder if there is RFE for zuulv3 to take vars from files in job definitions.16:58
sshnaidmlike vars_files: in ansible playbooks16:59
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: WIP: POC: logs collection from native zuulv3 job  https://review.openstack.org/52255417:00
pabelangersshnaidm: I think it is a fine line TBH, we don't wany too much ansible logic in zuul.yaml files.  I think the path you are on is right, using vars_file inside your playbooks.  Today, vars in zuul.yaml is extra vars on CLI using ansible-playbooks -e@foo.yaml17:04
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: tripleo-buildimage: deploy repo in pre-run  https://review.openstack.org/52316717:04
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Use py3 in docs generation  https://review.openstack.org/52316917:05
sshnaidmpabelanger, sorry, can you explain your last sentence?17:06
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pabelangersshnaidm: the vars section in zuul.yaml, is actually ansible 'extra-vars' that we pass to the ansible-playbook client from the CLI.  That is the -e flag on ansible-playbook17:07
sshnaidmpabelanger, and what is zuul.yaml..?17:07
pabelangersshnaidm: no, sorry, I am wrong. vars in zuul.yaml is the host variables we add to inventory file. We use -e for secrets17:08
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sshnaidmpabelanger, you mentioned "-e@foo.yaml" - it's file including, so I thought  maybe we can use it17:08
pabelangersshnaidm: zuul.yaml, isn't that where you are asking to use a vars file?17:09
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pabelangersshnaidm: yah, I spoke incorrectly. We only use that for secrets and site vars files, which are global (not per job)17:09
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sshnaidmpabelanger, I meant like this https://github.com/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/blob/6bfb25eae0d5b2c3f2dab3e74afdcac548938b9b/zuul.d/ovb-jobs.yaml#L143  jobs definition file, it it "zuul.yaml" you mean?17:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Set ceph_use_fqdn for rdocloud  https://review.openstack.org/51974417:10
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sshnaidmpabelanger, and for which hosts do you add them in inventory?17:11
pabelangersshnaidm: yes, that is zuul.yaml17:12
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Create ovb-ha-ipv6 and deprecate fs024 job  https://review.openstack.org/52261817:12
pabelangersshnaidm: you can see in the inventory file the location: http://logs.openstack.org/54/522554/5/check-tripleo/tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-ha-oooq/7c16193/zuul-info/inventory.yaml17:13
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pabelangerara_generate_html for example, is from zuul.yaml vars section, IIRC17:14
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: tripleo-buildimage: deploy repo in pre-run  https://review.openstack.org/52316717:14
sshnaidmpabelanger, so we can't inject vars like "-e " or "-e @" to ansible, but only to add them to inventory?17:15
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sshnaidmpabelanger, I think it will be a lot of fun trying to migrate tripleo jobs.. we use ansible in a very different way17:16
pabelangersshnaidm: mostly because we don't copy -e files to logs servers, and have decided to only use them for secrets today17:17
pabelangersshnaidm: how so? Are you relying on extra-vars for a lot of things?17:18
sshnaidmpabelanger, for *all* things, and "-e @file.yaml" for all configs17:18
sshnaidmpabelanger, and we don't use 1 playbook in job, usually it's about 10 "atomic" playbooks17:19
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pabelangersshnaidm: right, so we don't support that today. The best you could do, is move those variables into group_vars with some sane defaults and toggle then using zuul.yaml vars today. But, it would be a good use case to bring on with other zuul contributors and see if there is a way to support it.17:20
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EmilienMjeblair: when you have time this week, I'll need your help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521967/ - pabelanger and I couldn't figure out why puppet-openstack-unit-3.* are still running17:21
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sshnaidmpabelanger, yeah, only vars can help us right now, but it's about a few hundreds of lines in variables, it's a nightmare to add them all to vars. This is like ansible run looks in average tripleo job: http://logs.openstack.org/52/522052/3/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario002-multinode-oooq-container/53d972e/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-26_11_15_00_420487http://logs.openstack.org/52/522052/3/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario002-multinode-oooq-co17:26
sshnaidmntainer/53d972e/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-26_11_15_00_42048717:26
sshnaidmsorry, pasted twice: http://logs.openstack.org/52/522052/3/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario002-multinode-oooq-container/53d972e/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-26_11_15_00_42048717:26
pabelangersshnaidm: yah, keep in mind we also don't support tags in zuul.yaml17:27
pabelangersshnaidm: so, in this case, there is going to be some changes to your playbooks17:28
pabelangeror have some discussions in #zuul to try and support your use case17:28
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jeblairif it's a bunch of static vars, can't the playbook just load it with vars_file?17:29
jeblairEmilienM: ack17:30
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openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Update Designate's meeting time  https://review.openstack.org/52317717:32
sshnaidmjeblair, yeah, we also have about 25 playbooks and tags: https://github.com/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/blob/e12f1b9514e9cc51d5f09fde365bd65b10d9ec18/toci-quickstart/playbooks/ovb.yml#L217:32
sshnaidmjeblair, tags - to run or not to run part of playbooks..17:32
sshnaidmso we need to convert tags to variables and to include "when"s everywhere..17:33
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jeblairsshnaidm: or maybe we need tag support in zuul17:33
sshnaidmyeah, if it runs ansible it's just to add to CLI "--tags" "--skip-tags"17:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: ovb: run ovb-containers-oooq only on pike  https://review.openstack.org/52257917:35
jeblairsshnaidm: we're trying to not reimplement ansible in zuul, but try to make it so that if you can do something with ansible-playbook, zuul can do it for you.  at least, in places where that makes sense and is safe from a security point of view.  tags *seems* at first glance to be something that could fit, but we haven't discussed it yet.  if we added it, it'd probably be after the v3.0 release which we're focused on now.  feel free to ...17:36
jeblair... log a story in storyboard about it17:36
jeblairapparently we have discussed it and i don't remember it.  so a story would be very helpful in that regard.  :)17:37
sshnaidmjeblair, yeah, will create one17:37
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sshnaidmjeblair, the whole idea was to create ansible playbooks runnable everywhere - both locally and CI.. and it's fine to use -e -e@ or --tags with ansible locally17:40
sshnaidmjeblair, but we didn't expect it won't be supported17:41
jeblairsshnaidm: yep, we'll have to work through it.17:41
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317817:46
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: WIP: Fix broken use of pre-existing cloud images  https://review.openstack.org/49805018:09
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317818:18
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pabelangerjeblair: fungi: okay, so we have leaked jobs again on status.o.o (407868,74 is 9+ hours), it does look like we can leak them is our launcher is killed for some reason. In this case ze05.o.o seems to have been rebooted, due to live migration this morning18:19
pabelangerright now, I have no good way to abort those jobs18:20
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317818:20
pabelangerbecause they are no longer running on the executor18:20
pabelangerand last week, I had to abandon / restore the patches to clean our zuul pipelines18:20
pabelangerwhich did leave nodes leacked in 'in-use' state18:20
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pabelangerwhich, eventually, cleared because we had to restart the scheduler due to high memory usage18:21
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317818:23
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Fix broken use of pre-existing cloud images  https://review.openstack.org/49805018:29
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317818:31
dmsimardI love ara18:31
dmsimardmakes finding errors so fast18:31
dmsimard<318:31
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jeblairpabelanger: that's a known bug.  it's in storyboard somewhere18:33
dmsimardsshnaidm: in the meantime, while it's not ideal, a workaround to consider could be to wrap a nested ansible or something like that.18:33
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pabelangerjeblair: okay, good to know18:34
dmsimardsshnaidm: however that means that the zuul ara report will have one long task because from the perspective of the executor you're really just running one "command" task18:34
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317818:44
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317818:48
sshnaidmdmsimard, well, it's like we do it now actually18:52
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sshnaidmdmsimard, zuul runs shell and we run ansible in this shell18:52
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dmsimardyeah, it'd be nice to run the right playbooks etc directly.18:52
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dmsimardodyssey4me, cloudnull, evrardjp: do you have any plans to fully ansibilize your things and make them runnable directly by zuul v3 ?18:53
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317819:06
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: WIP: Add command socket support to zuul-merger  https://review.openstack.org/52319719:11
AJaegerconfig-core, one cleanup review, please -  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51392619:13
jeblairpabelanger: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000899 is the story19:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/nodepool feature/zuulv3: Use py3 in docs generation  https://review.openstack.org/52316919:21
sshnaidmpabelanger, is it possible to run ansible at least with "-vv" ?19:22
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pabelangersshnaidm: yes, but it isn't expsed on a per job level. I also am not sure if that info will get logged to zuul stream19:29
pabelangerjeblair: thanks, that is excatly what happen last week to ze03 and ze06 today19:29
pabelangergood to know19:29
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Shrewspabelanger: jeblair: have we seen any finger daemons abnormally terminated on the executors since https://review.openstack.org/517437 merged?19:31
pabelangerShrews: I think ze04 might have19:32
pabelangerShrews: I haven't fully looked19:32
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pabelangerzuul     20080  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    Nov20   0:27 [zuul-executor] <defunct>19:34
pabelangerdoesn't look healthy19:34
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Shrewspabelanger: i see that process was killed by the OOM killer back on the 23rd. perhaps log streaming is eating memory, though i'm not sure why that would be yet19:46
Shrewsbut at least it's something to look at19:46
jeblairtrue, i don't think we thought to look there19:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Create pre-generated fake subunit file  https://review.openstack.org/52295519:46
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Fix keypress handling on board view  https://review.openstack.org/43865419:47
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Add tag editting to story view  https://review.openstack.org/43870719:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Fix inconsistency name  https://review.openstack.org/45264819:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Actually allow for overriding the lock file  https://review.openstack.org/50695319:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Add help text for new story command  https://review.openstack.org/52320319:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Start using alembic  https://review.openstack.org/52320419:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Add unique constraint to story_tags table  https://review.openstack.org/52320519:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Fix tag editing  https://review.openstack.org/52320619:47
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack/boartty master: Fix creating new stories  https://review.openstack.org/52320719:47
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Improve configure-unbound role to support configuring TTLs  https://review.openstack.org/52317819:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Fix keypress handling on board view  https://review.openstack.org/43865419:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Make board view easier to read  https://review.openstack.org/43865519:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Add tag editting to story view  https://review.openstack.org/43870719:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Fix inconsistency name  https://review.openstack.org/45264819:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Actually allow for overriding the lock file  https://review.openstack.org/50695319:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Add help text for new story command  https://review.openstack.org/52320319:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Start using alembic  https://review.openstack.org/52320419:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Add unique constraint to story_tags table  https://review.openstack.org/52320519:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Fix tag editing  https://review.openstack.org/52320619:49
openstackgerritMerged openstack/boartty master: Fix creating new stories  https://review.openstack.org/52320719:49
jeblairSpamapS, clarkb: i *think* we have enough there to create and tag stories for the zuul roadmap now19:50
SpamapSjeblair: woot19:50
* SpamapS will take a look after lunch19:51
clarkbcool, I'm starting my drive home frkm long weekend will be at computer probably 2:30 pacific ish19:51
jeblairAt least, i did https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001324 entirely through boartty19:51
SpamapSjeblair: reminds me that I need to finish my assignment dropdown fix19:51
jeblairSpamapS: that would be awesome, because assigning to anyone but me in boartty is not fun, and i don't want everything assigned to me19:52
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Create ovb-ha-ipv6 and deprecate fs024 job  https://review.openstack.org/52261820:04
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Add command socket support to zuul-merger  https://review.openstack.org/52319720:07
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul feature/zuulv3: Move send_command() into ZuulApp  https://review.openstack.org/52321120:07
dmsimardboartty ? lol20:13
dmsimardnice20:13
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fungiif you ever wondered what happens when you plug a tty into a wild boar...20:15
pabelangermmmtty20:15
dmsimardpabelanger, fungi, clarkb: patch for unbound TTL configuration is ready for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523178/20:16
dmsimardnote that configure-unbound is included in the base playbook20:16
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dmsimardone thing I wanted to add to the integration tests was "unbound-checkconf -o cache-min-ttl" (and cache-max-ttl) but it doesn't seem like it works that way.20:17
dmsimardJust to make sure the configuration is effective.20:17
dmsimardthat review made me realize an issue20:18
dmsimardIf you use with_first_found within a role (to seek out vars specific to an OS) and you have a "vars" directory in your playbook directory, it'll import those instead of the role's20:19
dmsimardso we should be careful with those and prefix {{ role_path }}/vars to the list of files20:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Remove tripleo-buildimage-overcloud-full-centos-7 from gate  https://review.openstack.org/52314620:24
cloudnulldmsimard: I want to say yes. but evrardjp would have a clearer idea of what the plan is20:26
dmsimardcloudnull: I'm interested in the general use case of making something easy to use by both ansible and zuul v320:26
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cloudnullsounds like a worth while thing to do20:33
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cloudnullat the moment I think we're just calling the scripts using a shell task, which is keeping our existing functionality prior to zuulv320:34
cloudnullI can see the benifit in just having a single interface20:34
cloudnullbut there may be complications in that we're also installing ansible and other bits.20:35
cloudnullbut i've not put a lot of thought into it, so i may be over thinking it :)20:35
fungithe real challenge i see comes when your primary deliverable is ansible content, and you're wanting to test that it works under multiple versions of ansible20:35
fungiespecially if, as we've been also working to support, you want to test pull requests proposed to upstream ansible20:36
fungie.g., your jobs are executing ansible content you want to be able to depends-on to proposed changes for ansible itself20:37
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fungibecause we're almost certainly not going to want to trust unreviewed ansible patches to run on our zuul executors20:39
fungiodds are that will at most have to be relegated to running only on test nodes20:39
ianwdmsimard: i certainly don't have an issue with the var renames etc in that, but should we split it up?  i think fiddling the ttl's is probably on the riskier side (these things always have unexpected consequences) and it would be nice to consider in isolation if we revert etc20:40
jeblairour goals -- not all of which have been achieved yet -- are for folks to be able to use ansible in zuul in the way that they would normally use it in most circumstances20:40
jeblairthere are some small things cropping up now (such as support for tags and extra var files) that we may need to add to zuul to achieve those goals20:41
jeblairso experimenting with that and continuing to refine zuul to support that would be great20:41
jeblair(changes like that may not arrive until after the v3.0 release, as we focus on that)20:41
jeblairwe also know of some larger changes we may need to support the case of folks maintaining ansible roles which should work in multiple versions of ansible20:42
jeblairwe may need to alter zuul to support running with different versions.  that's a slightly larger task, but not out of the question for future work.20:42
jeblaircloudnull, dmsimard, evrardjp, fungi: ^20:43
jeblair(at the risk of repeating things people may or may not know)20:43
fungiyup, and that's what i expect will take longer before we can move away from an ansible task running ansible20:43
jeblairfungi: ya.  and even if we achieve all our goals, i'm certain there are still going to be some things that just won't be tested correctly unless we do that20:44
jeblairfungi: as in your example of a proposed change to ansible itself20:44
jeblairso building good support for that case as well is desirable20:44
fungiand then there will be cases like zuul integration testing, where we will probably never be able to stop running a nested ansible (since it'll be running as a subprocess of a daemon started as part of the job content)20:44
jeblairianw: how's the _project rename coming?20:44
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ianwjeblair: ok ... testing is the issue20:46
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pabelangerjeblair: speaking of roadmap, should we consider adding ansible 2.4 support into our 3.0 release?20:51
jeblairianw: it's the copy repos role that's tricky right?20:51
jeblairianw: maybe we could create a new copy of that role for testing?20:51
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Move to dictionary list of projects zuul._projects (take 2)  https://review.openstack.org/51881520:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Skip openstack-tox-py35 on requirements for newton  https://review.openstack.org/52290420:54
ianwjeblair: ^ ok, that was my thinking on it, sorry it's just been sitting as [dnm].  i'm open to testing ideas ...20:54
ianwa complete copy of the role and test that might be the easiest thing, hadn't thought of that20:54
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Fix sub_nodes and sub_nodes_private with multiple nodes  https://review.openstack.org/52322620:55
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dmsimardianw: the plan is to do it in the role instead of the base image exactly so it's easy to revert21:04
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dmsimardianw: perhaps we can add an "unbound_configure_ttl" which would default to false if you'd like21:04
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ianwdmsimard: i just mean split the existing change into two different changes, with the renaming stuff etc first, and we can merge that no problems, then the actual interesting bits in a second change21:05
dmsimardianw: oh, I thought you meant to split it into another role21:05
pabelangerkeep in mind, it isn't too hard to revert images in nodepool either21:05
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dmsimardianw: sure, let me split it up in two changes and also add a toggle to disable the ttl configuration if need be21:06
ianwno no, just one change, one thing ... :)21:06
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pabelangerianw: dmsimard: clarkb: left a -1 on unbound change, with comments21:18
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: tripleo-buildimage: deploy repo in pre-run  https://review.openstack.org/52316721:19
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Add support for configuring TTLs in configure-unbound  https://review.openstack.org/52317821:19
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: General improvements to configure-unbound role  https://review.openstack.org/52322821:19
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dmsimardianw: ^ split21:19
dmsimardpabelanger: oops, looking21:20
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dmsimardpabelanger: sure21:20
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openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: General improvements to configure-unbound role  https://review.openstack.org/52322821:22
openstackgerritDavid Moreau Simard proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Add support for configuring TTLs in configure-unbound  https://review.openstack.org/52317821:22
dmsimardpabelanger: ^ fixed defaults and quotes21:22
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pabelangerthanks, that's likely our safest route for now21:30
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dmsimardtotally fine with that, we can likely track down which jobs are often hit by github or other dns lookup issues and then try it selectively that way21:31
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dmsimardpabelanger: oh, fyi cache-bogus-ttl is not what we thought it was21:38
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dmsimardpabelanger: it sounds like what we'd like to do doesn't exist (yet), it would be the opposite of "cache-max-negative-ttl" see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=136022221:39
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1360222 in unbound "cache-max-negative-ttl don't work as expected" [High,Closed: eol] - Assigned to pwouters21:39
dmsimardBasically "cache-max-negative-ttl" would define the TTL for NXDOMAIN (or such) queries and "cache-max-positive-ttl" would define the TTL for successful ones21:40
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openstackgerritFrank Kloeker proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata master: Preparation for Zanata 4 version upgrade  https://review.openstack.org/50679521:41
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jeblairit's zuul meeting time in #openstack-meeting-alt22:00
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openstackgerritK Jonathan Harker proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: zypper: fix package removal  https://review.openstack.org/51765822:11
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clarkbinfra-root I will be sending the infra is back email shortly (just fyi)22:42
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fungithanks clarkb! happy to be back too!22:47
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mordredclarkb: ++22:50
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Create ovb-ha-ipv6 and deprecate fs024 job  https://review.openstack.org/52261823:01
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openstackgerritClark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zuul master: Ensure ara is updated on executors  https://review.openstack.org/51674023:12
clarkbjeblair: dmsimard fungi ^ fyi23:12
dmsimardclarkb: so.. is it taboo to talk about migrating from puppet 3 to puppet 4 or consider rewriting things to Ansible ?23:14
dmsimardPerhaps a topic for tomorrow's meeting :p23:14
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dmsimardI ask because this pip thing is a non-issue in puppet 423:15
dmsimardI guess puppet 5 is a thing too.23:15
clarkbdmsimard: no puppet 4 is a semi in progress item and is on the "we need help" list23:16
clarkbdmsimard: how does puppet 4 fix this?23:16
clarkbyou can pass in pip args for package installs?23:16
dmsimardpuppet 4 has a native pip provider, and the package type has an install_options to pass args like that23:17
dmsimardUnless that's puppet 5, see my comment in the patch23:17
clarkbwell they all have a native pip provider23:18
clarkbthe issue is whether or not you can instruct it to only update the deps that no longer fit into the requirements23:18
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clarkbbased on quick git history search of the provider latest 4 and 5 provide it at least23:19
jeblair(i would personally also be happy with a migrateto-ansible23:19
jeblairgrr23:19
jeblair(i would personally also be happy with a migrate-to-ansible plan, if it seemed feasible to fully accomplish a migration and not leave us stradling two config management systems)23:20
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clarkbmy hunch is that ^ would require us to do much of nothing else for a significant chunk of time23:21
jeblairyeah, or have a really detailed plan about how to accomplish it over a longer period23:22
dmsimardit depends23:22
dmsimardfor example, if we write a new infrastructure component23:22
dmsimardit should be written in the right language23:22
dmsimardotherwise we keep growing the debt23:22
fungifor the record, the pip option we want is --upgrade-strategy=only-if-needed23:22
dmsimardI think we can also probably migrate progressively from one to the other without it being an all-or-nothing deal23:23
dmsimardI mean, it's not like infracloud has ansible calling puppet calling ansible or anything :)23:23
clarkbdmsimard: I think the all or nothing bit is the long term "we don't want to support both forever"23:23
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clarkbdmsimard: so we either need a detailed plan like jeblair says or we need to migrate and focus on that until its done23:23
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clarkbbecause the most debt we can find ourselves in is running multiple systems for long periods of time I think23:25
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dmsimardIt's probably something I would love to have time for, any little free time I have right now I try to spend it on ara to get 1.0 out the door so I don't enter zuul v3 branch territory :)23:25
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dmsimardotherwise I'm still keen on implementing the ara replacement for puppetboard spec and the proactive monitoring spec23:26
dmsimardwriting the specs would already be a good start :D23:27
clarkbyes23:27
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mordredwow. I just spent the entire day down a maze of rabbit holes on what was supposed to be a quick 5 minute diversion this morning23:31
* mordred apologizes for being completely useless23:31
dmsimardmordred: I'm currently down about 2k lines worth of rabbit-holing in ara for what was supposed to be a straightforward change, I know the feeling.23:32
dmsimardmordred: hopefully your rabbit hole was useful :)23:33
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mordreddmsimard: I don't think 'useful' is quite the right word - but I did manage to make it out the other side completing the task rather than rage quitting23:33
dmsimardRabbit hole or Yak shaving? :p23:34
dmsimardhuh, Wikipedia describes a rabbit hole as "a slang expression for a psychedelic experience, from the same usage". Psychadelic. Heh.23:35
mordreddmsimard: maybe I was rabbit shaving23:35
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* fungi is reminded that yak-shaving day comes again soon. hoping to get some coleslaw in my boots this year23:36
dmsimardfungi: there's a yak shaving day ??23:36
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fungiren and stimpy show reference23:37
dmsimardfungi: oh that's where it's from23:38
fungione of my favorite episodes23:38
dmsimardI didn't really speak english when I watched Ren and Stimpy, and if I watched it it was probably in french :)23:38
clarkbI just drove from sunny relatively warm weather to cold foggy and wet. Not sure what I was thinking23:38
fungidmsimard: it probably made about as much sense translated to swahili23:38
dmsimardclarkb: we got snow up here (finally!)23:39
clarkb(I've just checked for sanity purposes and looks like ansible's pip module also has an extra_args parameter that you can use to set flags like this)23:40
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pabelangerclarkb: jeblair: pushed https://review.openstack.org/469983/ up back in June for ansiblify control plane, need to reply to comments / updates but we could keep iterating on that23:40
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mordredclarkb: yas - I have used the extra_args field with success in some jobs even23:48
mordreddmsimard: ^^ pabelanger's comment23:48
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove legacy jobs from oaktree repos  https://review.openstack.org/52324723:50
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs master: Remove unused legacy oaktree jobs  https://review.openstack.org/52324823:52
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