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slaweq | corvus: hi, thx for checking and for confirmation that all is fine :) | 07:50 |
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kashyap | smcginnis: Hi, is the release name "Stein" for sure? | 13:16 |
kashyap | (If so, I'll send another email for clarity; instead of "Solar") | 13:18 |
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fungi | kashyap: yes, see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128899.html | 13:27 |
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kashyap | fungi: Darn, that email went into 'openstack-operators' maildir | 13:28 |
fungi | i think it got sent to several lists | 13:29 |
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kashyap | fungi: Thanks! | 13:30 |
kashyap | fungi: What I meant was my local filtering rules did that | 13:30 |
kashyap | When 'cross-posted', the mail didn't go into _both_ maildirs (-dev, and -operators) | 13:30 |
fungi | ahh | 13:31 |
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kashyap | fungi: What is the best ML practise here -- | 13:32 |
kashyap | Close my existing thread, and start a new one? | 13:32 |
kashyap | This one: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128922.html | 13:33 |
kashyap | I was thinking of sending one last reply on that old thread, with two things: | 13:33 |
fungi | if you're extra worried i would just correct the subject in a reply. honestly i think everyone knew what you meant and smcginnis was just trolling you a little | 13:34 |
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kashyap | (a) Change the subject line of the old thread to be: "CLOSED; refer to the 'Stein' release thread" | 13:34 |
kashyap | (b) Write a new thread with correct release name. | 13:34 |
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kashyap | Ah, okay then: Instead of starting a new thread, I'll just rename the subject in my reply to "Stein"? | 13:35 |
fungi | i don't personally think there was any need to follow up to that thread at all. people likely read it as "whatever name the s release ends up with" | 13:35 |
kashyap | Heh, okido, then. | 13:35 |
kashyap | fungi: Because: I said: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128934.html | 13:36 |
kashyap | "I'll re-send this email with the correct | 13:36 |
kashyap | release name for clarity." | 13:36 |
kashyap | So, I'll just send one last clarification, that I'll just retain that thread | 13:36 |
fungi | our releases are sequentially named (following the order of the english alphabet) so at out current release cadence it'll be another 13 years before anyone who knows how our release names are applied could reasonably be confused by that | 13:37 |
fungi | but sure, reply if you feel strongly you need to correct that ;) | 13:37 |
kashyap | Heh, noted. /me just likes to avoid confusion for readers, who go like: "He said he'll start a new thread; did he start, or did I miss?" :-) | 13:38 |
kashyap | Thx | 13:38 |
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fungi | sure, i understand the desire | 13:45 |
fungi | i regularly experience the internal struggle between my desire to acknowledge/correct my public errors (no matter how small) and my desire to avoid unnecessarily increasing the noise level on already-noisy mailing lists | 13:47 |
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fungi | infra-root: not urgent, but the clock is ticking on next pip. 10.0.0.b1 is on pypi now and 10.0.0 is expected to be released in two weeks (over the april 14/15 weekend) https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2018-March/032104.html | 13:52 |
fungi | due to https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/4805 we know it's at least going to start breaking devstack | 13:55 |
fungi | the pip maintainers seem to actually prefer that we pin pip<10 or just not use `sudo pip install ...` at all, rather than providing any sort of escape hatch | 13:59 |
corvus | fungi: we could just install 'fip'. fungi's pip. | 13:59 |
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fungi | fip is unlikely to be well-maintained ;) | 14:00 |
corvus | it's also unlikely to change :) | 14:00 |
fungi | this is certainly true | 14:00 |
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clarkb | fungi: might be worth a wider email to dev list explaining we expect things to break to avoid everyone freaking out over lost dev time | 14:36 |
clarkb | we won't know how widespread the effects are until after release though | 14:37 |
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fungi | yup, can do | 14:54 |
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fungi | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128938.html | 15:01 |
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logan- | clarkb: gtg now | 15:10 |
clarkb | fungi: thanks! | 15:12 |
clarkb | logan-: cool I'll have a look when I get a chance | 15:12 |
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clarkb | logan-: I'm trying a reboot to start just to see if it will be happier now with working networking | 16:19 |
clarkb | (since it looks like ti has a volume or two that may be coming over the wire) | 16:19 |
clarkb | dmsimard: or other infra-root do we know why the existing limestone mirror has two cinder volumes? | 16:21 |
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clarkb | looks like one is for afs and one for apache? rather than a combined volume | 16:22 |
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clarkb | looks like inap does similar so I'll look at it | 16:27 |
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clarkb | I may have to have a sit and think on this but looking at it the volumes get labeled as afs and apache but then both go into the same lvm vg then we make two lvs out of that. I don't think there are any guarantees that the writes to the apache cache will end up on the apache volume and similar for the afs volume. Things will be mixed instaed | 16:30 |
clarkb | SInce we aren't directly passing things thorugh with that mapping it probably makes more sense to humans to not name them that way. Additionally having more than one volume is extra things that can break, can we just use a single cinder volume instead that is twice as big? We aren't doing raid or similar in lvm so don't lose redundancy that way | 16:31 |
clarkb | infra-root ^ its a holiday weekend so something to think about. I too must go do holiday related activities but something to think about for monday should you see this. | 16:32 |
pabelanger | fungi: I can try and see if our single virtualenv suggestion from corvus works. devstack does multiple venvs by default ATM | 16:39 |
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pabelanger | clarkb: yah, I think we could clean it up to a single volume too. Will make it a little easier to bootstrap a node | 16:42 |
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dmsimard | clarkb: I copy pasta'd from inap (re: two volumes) | 16:51 |
dmsimard | Doing one volume is certainly fine, it didn't occur to me to ask why inap was done that way | 16:52 |
clarkb | dmsimard: cool we need a new limestone mirror so wanted to make sure I understood what choices were made. I dont have time to do a more involved rebuild right now | 16:56 |
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fungi | clarkb: i have a feeling that mirror volume setup was cargo-culted. on earlier mirrors we had directly formatted a cinder volume for afs, and so i added a second cinder volume for apache when we discovered we needed additional space. if people are setting them up now with lvm, i agree that 1. there's no need to name the cinder volumes like that, but more importantly 2. we shouldn' | 17:24 |
fungi | t be creating multiple cinder volumes for that | 17:25 |
fungi | just attach a 200gb cinder volume as a pv and use lvm to carve it up however | 17:25 |
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dmsimard | fungi, clarkb: unrelated but do you happen to know how some OpenStack github repos got "tags" ? like for nova it has "compute-starter-kit" and "api-server" https://github.com/openstack/nova/ | 18:37 |
clarkb | dmsimard: likely someone with permissions pushed those tags to gerrut | 18:43 |
clarkb | dmsimard: you can set up the gerrit acls to allow fopr that | 18:43 |
dmsimard | Those are in the GitHub UI though | 18:43 |
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dmsimard | oh, wait | 18:43 |
dmsimard | not git tags | 18:43 |
clarkb | oh | 18:44 |
clarkb | those are tc managed iirc | 18:44 |
dmsimard | clarkb: https://i.imgur.com/5p3h6ZJ.png | 18:44 |
clarkb | not sure what the process is for that | 18:44 |
dmsimard | labels? I guess | 18:44 |
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clarkb | dmsimard: our gerrit projects.yaml doesn't seem to drive that so guessing its out of the governance repo and either manually applied or scripted there | 18:57 |
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fungi | dmsimard: clarkb: it's in openstack/governance reference/projects.yaml | 19:10 |
fungi | oh! no i see what you're talking about now | 19:11 |
fungi | those are manually applied via the github ui | 19:11 |
fungi | sdague was granted github admin access because he was going to add topics to the various repos to help make the "github mess" in the openstack org more browseable | 19:12 |
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fungi | i think he added the projects which are part of the compute starter kit to a compute-starter-kit "topic" and any official api services to api-server similarly | 19:14 |
fungi | ultimately, we'll probably solve this by replicating into a variety of different orgs in gh instead | 19:14 |
pabelanger | Yah, I wasn't aware of topics but seems to be part of https://developer.github.com/v3/repos/ which is good for automation | 19:15 |
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corvus | dmsimard, clarkb, fungi: generally we name our volumes 'hostname/main01', etc, and our volume groups 'main': https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/sysadmin.html#cinder-volume-management | 19:52 |
fungi | yep | 19:53 |
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fungi | for example, rax-ord started with mirror01.ord.rax.openstack.org/main01 as the only pv in its main vg, and one lvm named afscache occupying the entirety of it | 19:59 |
fungi | so i attached mirror01.ord.rax.openstack.org/main02, added it as a pv in the main vg and then created an lvm named proxycache occupying the rest | 19:59 |
fungi | i'm guessing some of the later mirror servers copied that rather than using a single cinder volume | 20:00 |
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fungi | looks like when mirror02.dfw.rax replaced mirror01, it was done sanely with just a single main01 cinder volume carved up into logical volumes for afscache and proxycache | 20:03 |
fungi | (though the old separate cinder volumes for mirror01 never got deleted when the instance was deleted?) | 20:03 |
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fungi | clarkb: where are you seeing cinder volumes named/labeled something other than main01/main02 in inap-mtl01? | 20:05 |
fungi | (though again, when mirror.mtl01.inap replaced mirror.mtl01.internap the old cinder volumes for that never got deleted either) | 20:06 |
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clarkb | fungi on inap I think it may just be two but limestones are named | 20:19 |
clarkb | abd limestone needs a rebuild | 20:20 |
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fried_bunny | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/558084 Fix unit tests to work with new oslo.config | 21:03 |
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pabelanger | clarkb: logan-: we should consider setting max-server: 0 if we can bring limestone online, so we can still manage images. Right now, we're have to have 4 DIBs of each image on nodepool-buliders since we are gettings errors uploading images | 21:49 |
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logan- | Ah ok. I can enable the project and set instance quota to 0 if that’s easier pabelanger | 22:23 |
pabelanger | logan-: if we do it via max-servers in nodepool.yaml, we shouldn't get any errors from limestone. And shouldn't need to change your quotas. If you wanted to propose a patch, can likely approve | 22:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Logan V proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Drop Limestone max-servers to 0 https://review.openstack.org/558088 | 22:32 |
logan- | pabelanger ^ | 22:32 |
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pabelanger | logan-: ack | 22:35 |
pabelanger | should take 29 mins to land | 22:35 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Drop Limestone max-servers to 0 https://review.openstack.org/558088 | 22:44 |
pabelanger | logan-: clarkb: ^okay, max-servers 0 now | 22:45 |
logan- | thanks, re-enabling the project | 22:46 |
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pabelanger | logan-: okay, change has landed | 23:05 |
pabelanger | feel free to enable things on your side | 23:05 |
logan- | thanks! | 23:05 |
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