| clarkb | johnsom: unfortuantely we don't seem to have collected the devstack proper log from that run? so hard to see if there was somethign specific failing | 00:01 |
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| clarkb | I wonder if that is a bug in how we run devstack and it timesout | 00:01 |
| johnsom | Yeah, the devstack-early.txt it picked up is 0 bytes too | 00:02 |
| johnsom | Odd all the way around | 00:02 |
| clarkb | ok I've widened the lgostash query dragnet a bit after noticing that the e-r query only cared about voting jobs | 00:11 |
| clarkb | there are a few more that show up now but also from rax-* | 00:12 |
| clarkb | 22 in limestone to 16 in other clouds | 00:12 |
| clarkb | so may still need some tweaking | 00:12 |
| clarkb | (message: "FAILED with status: 137" OR message: "FAILED with status: 143" OR message:"END RESULT_TIMED_OUT") AND tags: "console" is my query fwiw | 00:13 |
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| ianw | clarkb: that's a modification of your change for the .ORIG file saving stuff | 00:31 |
| ianw | i'll do a bionic build with it for sanity | 00:32 |
| clarkb | ianw: note I think we may have already killed resolved on bionic in a different change | 00:33 |
| clarkb | ianw: so you probably want to roll that back once ^ is working | 00:33 |
| ianw | clarkb: right, that's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558367/ | 00:34 |
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| clarkb | ianw: also > follows symlinks so if ORIG is a smylink to somewhere else what may not work quite right (somethign to double check) | 00:34 |
| ianw | oh good point, we should just remove and replace | 00:35 |
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| clarkb | http://i.imgur.com/c8CPRqq.gif me right now with that devstack change | 00:38 |
| clarkb | so maybe it will deserve to get cleaned up and at least become another virtualenv option :/ | 00:39 |
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| clarkb | looks like some tempest tests are still failing but fewer than before I think | 00:46 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb: I had to use fix_system_ca_bundle_path for the virtualenv to make requests hapy | 00:49 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: ya me too | 00:52 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: thats what the PYTHON= is for | 00:52 |
| clarkb | (there is probably abetter way to do it) | 00:52 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: I still have rootwrap failures with neutron it doesn't use the configure_rootwrap function :/ | 00:52 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, that would make sense, neutron in my patch did use a virtualenv yet | 00:53 |
| pabelanger | must have been missed with USE_VENV | 00:53 |
| clarkb | it has its own configure_neutron_rootwrap function :/ | 00:53 |
| clarkb | on thing after another :) | 00:53 |
| pabelanger | indeed | 00:53 |
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| clarkb | ok new patchset pushed will have to check again later tonight or maybe in the morning | 00:55 |
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| clarkb | Ia44cc1495320ebd1ee6f442f5d94c45f06383dd3 is an interesting change (noticed the funny path when debugging this stuff) | 00:58 |
| clarkb | tl;dr seems to be we can add all the funny paths by default | 00:58 |
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| clarkb | one more fix tacked on | 02:31 |
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| frickler | logan-: infra-root: still seeing extremely slow runs on limestone nodes, e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/95/558995/1/check/legacy-openstackci-beaker-centos-7/92e8ef9/ | 08:04 |
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| ianw | yeah, just noticed http://zuul.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=09cea9b6f6614ae28bccfa5041e9d1d5&logfile=console.log right now | 08:06 |
| ianw | 2607:ff68:100:54:f816:3eff:fe60:2255 if that helps | 08:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Noriega proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Adding Sphinx job to networking-l2gw https://review.openstack.org/559035 | 09:19 |
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| stephenfin | fungi, dmueller[m]: I was trying to bump the version of pbr to 4.0.0+ so we could unblock Sphinx 1.7 (e.g. commit f353c3074 in requirements repo). However, it seems the cap was removed in commit 1b6c309ac. Can someone explain what's happening there? | 10:00 |
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| ssbarnea | is there a way in zuul to test with py34 and py36 in addition to the already existing py35 ? | 11:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add ansible-role-grafyaml zuul jobs https://review.openstack.org/559058 | 11:44 |
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| frickler | ssbarnea: not sure where we would still have py34. for py36 you'd have to run a job on bionic, see https://review.openstack.org/547986 for an example. /me goes to rebase that one now | 11:52 |
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| ssbarnea | frickler: this looks a bit ugly, i was hoping to see a new template being made available. maybe I only need to wait a bit. | 11:55 |
| frickler | ssbarnea: oh, you mean for tox-py3x? | 11:56 |
| ssbarnea | frickler: exactly, nothing fancy just that. | 11:57 |
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| frickler | ssbarnea: o.k., I expect we will do that once bionic is officially released, probably towards the end of this month | 11:57 |
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| frickler | infra-root: is there a way to get notifications when a patch goes into "merge-conflict" status? I think that used to happen in earlier times, but seems to be missing with the zuulv3 setup now. Having a permanent entry in the history of a patch would seem useful to me, too | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-jenkins master: get_job_name: fix grammar in comment https://review.openstack.org/499849 | 12:13 |
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| ianw | frickler: complicated is probably why it isn't already done :) | 12:15 |
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| ssbarnea | mordred: regarding tox siblings, is it possible to trigger the same job from two repositories? I got jjb-tox-cross-python-jenkins working but I wonder what it would take to have this started on CRs made on python-jenkins (in addition to jjb ones). | 12:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Set the dhclient timeout to match DIB_DHCP_TIMEOUT https://review.openstack.org/559084 | 13:29 |
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| fungi | frickler: ianw: the notifications previously were because we had zuul explicitly retesting mergeability for all open changes and explicitly reporting back. gerrit later grew a built-in feature to track mergeability and so we figured there wasn't a lot of point in having two systems performing the same expensive function | 13:47 |
| fungi | however gerrit doesn't leave comments when it detects that and so no notifications occur | 13:48 |
| fungi | it merely gives you means to check the mergable state (via the webui or api) | 13:49 |
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| frickler | fungi: if there were at least a filter for that in the webui, that might help, too, but I don't see something like that in the popup for "status:" completions, is it hidden somewhere? | 13:58 |
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| fungi | it subtly changes the color of the dot next to the patchset's commit hash and the corresponding tooltip when you hover a pointer over that. it may also update other parts of the webui, i don't recall | 14:01 |
| frickler | fungi: oh, looking at the docs I found that searching for "-is:mergeable status:open" seems to be what I was looking for | 14:01 |
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| fungi | oh, got it. you were looking for a query parameter | 14:02 |
| fungi | i missed that part | 14:02 |
| frickler | fungi: well, actually I'd still like to get notification via mail when a patch I'm watching gets non-mergeable. but being able to query for that might serve as a workaround | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | sebastian marcet proposed openstack-infra/openstackid-resources master: added missing RSVP fields to summit event * rsvp_max_user_number * rsvp_max_user_wait_list_number https://review.openstack.org/559092 | 14:08 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: fungi corvus re devstack and venvs I got https://review.openstack.org/558930 within 3 tempest tests of passing last night. The current issue seems to be related to nova and nbd. I'm now trying system site packages in the venvs to see if that magically fixes things and nova is missing some dependency declaration. My raeding of the nova code implies that it shouldn't be as it seems to fork | 15:26 |
| clarkb | nbd client processes and interact with sysfs directly. But trying it anyways | 15:26 |
| clarkb | mriedem: ^ perhaps if you ahve time you can take a look at the nbd failures on 558930 to see if they make sense to you? the tl;dr there is pip10 release coming in about 10 days is expected to break devstacks ability to reliably install openstack to the system python install and I am trying to see if we can reasonably support virtualenv installation instead in a short period of time | 15:27 |
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| clarkb | unfortunately I have to take the first half of the day off as its kids' first day at "school" and apparently this is the one day I have to be there :) | 15:27 |
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| mriedem | clarkb: gd kids | 15:28 |
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| mriedem | clarkb: mikal_ might be better suited to look at this, since he's doing the privsep stuff in nova | 15:29 |
| corvus | i mean, what's the point of school if you have to be there | 15:29 |
| clarkb | corvus: supposedly after today subsequent days will not involve my involvement | 15:29 |
| mriedem | and nbd is i think used down in the virt image code which has mikal_'s fingers all over it | 15:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Create ansible-role-grafyaml repository https://review.openstack.org/558843 | 15:29 |
| clarkb | mriedem: ya I've seen him on commit messages when I was digging | 15:29 |
| mriedem | my job here of throwing mikal_ under this bus is done | 15:30 |
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| fungi | mriedem: you clearly need a bus driver's license too | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Check out more appropriate branches of role and playbook repos https://review.openstack.org/558643 | 15:32 |
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| prometheanfire | ianw: did that dib tag ever get made? | 15:51 |
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| anteaya | since clarkb is at school (I hope the day goes well for the twins) I'll start by laying this at fungi's feet | 15:54 |
| anteaya | the puppet 4 syntax doesn't work with puppet 3: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557979/ | 15:54 |
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| anteaya | at least that is the interpretation of zuuls frowny face that was my take away from last night | 15:55 |
| anteaya | so I'm wondering what direction I should take now | 15:55 |
| anteaya | ianw had some suggestions, but the sound of yak shaving has never appealed | 15:55 |
| anteaya | and given I don't know puppet in any version my initial response is that direction might not yeild any results | 15:56 |
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| anteaya | well appart from my frustration | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | I feel confident it will yeild at least that | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | I have to run into town now, I'll check backscroll upon my return | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Check out more appropriate branches of role and playbook repos https://review.openstack.org/558643 | 17:02 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Allow lookup plugins to read from playbook dir https://review.openstack.org/559132 | 17:02 |
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| fungi | anteaya: sorry for not having much bandwidth today. i'm travelling tomorrow and the day after so trying to cram two days worth of catching up into one right now. probably we can work out the critical bits of installation/upgrading of limesurvey from the puppet 4+ module and implement just what we need to get it up and running (we'd already not use their database and webserver classes anyway, so | 17:37 |
| fungi | there's probably not too much of significance left in that module) | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Allow some plugins to read from playbook dir https://review.openstack.org/559132 | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Check out more appropriate branches of role and playbook repos https://review.openstack.org/558643 | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sorin Sbarnea proposed openstack/python-jenkins master: Enables use of PYTHONHTTPSVERIFY override https://review.openstack.org/559141 | 18:05 |
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| anteaya | fungi I totally understand, this work isn't holding anyone else up so it is very much not critical | 18:08 |
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| anteaya | let's revisit this next week and see what is the best path at that point | 18:08 |
| anteaya | safe travels whereever it is you are going | 18:08 |
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| clarkb | using system site packages in my devstack VMs got devstack to work. I think that means nova may have missing dependency? | 18:11 |
| clarkb | mriedem: ^ | 18:11 |
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| mriedem | nbd is not a python lib right? | 18:12 |
| clarkb | its a kernel module but I'm guessing something that interacts with ut must require a python lib? | 18:12 |
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| mriedem | do you have a trace of when it fails before you used system site packages? | 18:13 |
| clarkb | mriedem: ya when I get home I can dig them up for you | 18:13 |
| mriedem | idk, i thought it was qemu-nbd that provided the native stuff and nova shells everything out via privsep now | 18:15 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: I wonder if its a path issue then. I'm adding the venvs to PATH then defaulting rootwrap to trust PATH | 18:18 |
| clarkb | using system site paclages may pull stuff into PATH that needs adding othereise | 18:18 |
| mriedem | hmm, none of the nbd stuff in nova should rely on rootwrap anymore | 18:18 |
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| clarkb | privsep uses the same config I think? | 18:19 |
| clarkb | for what us allowed | 18:19 |
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| mriedem | there is no config, i don't think | 18:20 |
| mriedem | but again, mikal_ | 18:20 |
| mriedem | far as i can tell, nova just executes qemu-nbd commands via privsep | 18:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add README to ensure-tox role https://review.openstack.org/559142 | 18:36 |
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| hogepodge | clarkb: ohs job? | 18:44 |
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| hogepodge | Oh, OpenStack helm? | 18:44 |
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| clarkb | hogepodge: ya I think we have a plan sorted in theur channel now | 18:47 |
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| mtreinish | hogepodge: everytime is see osh all I can think of is oshpark: https://oshpark.com/ (the default pcb fab I use) instead of openstack helm | 18:47 |
| corvus | mtreinish: and purple jelly beans | 18:48 |
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| corvus | though my first thought is orchard supply hardware, another frequent haunt of mine :) | 18:49 |
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| mtreinish | corvus: the jelly beans are why I keep going back there :p | 18:50 |
| corvus | i'm hoarding for the zombie apocolypse | 18:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amadeusz proposed openstack/python-jenkins master: Added folder support in views keeping backward compatibility and added tests for it. https://review.openstack.org/552559 | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/30/558930/8/check/tempest-full/eaeeb69/controller/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=DEBUG#_Apr_05_03_06_29_428030 is the traceback. Reading the code its just checking sysfs for that dir entry. I'm guessing something side effects that elsewhere to create it | 19:48 |
| clarkb | mriedem: also in that same log slightly up the page http://logs.openstack.org/30/558930/8/check/tempest-full/eaeeb69/controller/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=DEBUG#_Apr_05_03_06_28_371166 I'm thinking the retry logic may not be working properly in all cases | 19:48 |
| clarkb | mikal_: ^ when you wake up I'd appreciate it if you had a few minutes to look at this | 19:48 |
| mriedem | clarkb: hmm, yeah that's not a package thing, it's checking a hard-coded file path http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/disk/mount/nbd.py#n58 | 19:51 |
| clarkb | mriedem: ya so its really weird that virtualenv system site packages would change the behavior | 19:52 |
| clarkb | I'm guessing that that sysfs entry is a side effect of something else that is happening | 19:52 |
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| clarkb | qemu-nbd is in /usr/bin so I doubt its a path issue with that | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | and it is a compiled elf so doubtful that python virtualenvs direclty affect it | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: Internet seems to think that nbd-client will autoload the nbd kernel drive which makes the sysfs entry | 19:58 |
| clarkb | I'm guessing that is what is either failing or missing for us | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: http://logs.openstack.org/30/558930/8/check/tempest-full/eaeeb69/controller/logs/screen-n-cpu.txt.gz?level=DEBUG#_Apr_05_03_04_03_471398 I think that may be it? | 20:03 |
| clarkb | mriedem: I think on passing runs we never even attempt to use nbd so its use is completely unworking in devstack today | 20:03 |
| clarkb | mriedem: and the virtualenvs are masking over guestfs which is installed as a system package which is why system site packages works | 20:04 |
| clarkb | and it doesn't appear to be on pypi | 20:04 |
| mriedem | clarkb: that sounds about right, i was wondering how you were even hitting the nbd code, | 20:04 |
| mriedem | because this disk code should all go through guestfs | 20:05 |
| mriedem | nbd is a fallback for the localfs stuff, which is a security risk and we should have removed long ago :) | 20:05 |
| clarkb | this could be potentially problematic with pip10 since the entire point is to avoid system packages :/ | 20:05 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324720/ | 20:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ think this could be possibly an argument for why upstream needs to support this feature afterall? | 20:05 |
| clarkb | mriedem: gotcha | 20:05 |
| clarkb | mriedem: thank you for confirm what I seem to have figured out. My hunch then is we need to see if site-system-packages will break under pip10 | 20:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ you don't happen to know off the top of your head do you? | 20:06 |
| mriedem | and python-libguestfs isn't on pypi, so nova has never been able to depend on it that way | 20:06 |
| mriedem | it comes via the libguestfs-dev package i believe | 20:07 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: ya | 20:07 |
| clarkb | mriedem: the issue is pip10 braeks when you mix it with system python packaging due to system python packaging's use of distutils. Upstream has resisted merging an opt in for the old process that fungi wrote for them | 20:08 |
| clarkb | mriedem: that is what precipitated my make devstack use virtualenvs change, I guess we hope that virtualenvs with system packages are enough to make pip10 happy | 20:08 |
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| clarkb | mriedem: fungi I'm going to respond to the ml thread about pip10 and what this change has taught me | 20:12 |
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| fungi | clarkb: upstream is going to say make "proper" python packages or use system-site-packages in your venv. i don't expect that to pose a problem under pip 10 simply because the distutils-based packaging problem comes when pip tries to uninstall/upgrade one, and if it's not on pypi then that won't happen anyway | 20:23 |
| clarkb | fungi: problem is all the other system python packages will be in the venv too | 20:24 |
| clarkb | its not guestfs I'm worried about breaking its the ones that do break and are system wide | 20:24 |
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| clarkb | psutils was one iirc | 20:25 |
| fungi | ahh, right... i don't think pip will care since it shouldn't try to uninstall them anyway | 20:26 |
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| mordred | mriedem:, clarkb: maybe we should get python-libguestfs to not be broken and to publish on pypi | 20:28 |
| smcginnis | "maybe we should get X to not be broken" is the best statement I've seen today. | 20:28 |
| mordred | :) | 20:28 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think they happen to be your coworkers if you want to ask them nicely | 20:28 |
| clarkb | (ml update sent) | 20:29 |
| mordred | clarkb: given that I led off with saying "maybe we should get python-libguestfs to not be broken" in irc, it's probably not a great plan for *me* to approach them | 20:29 |
| mriedem | python-libguestfs on pypi is something i remember hearing about years ago | 20:29 |
| mordred | but honestly, with the pip10 shift, any remaining python libs that think they can exist without publishing to pypi are essentially unusable | 20:30 |
| mordred | not necessarily their fault - just the way the python ecosystem has moved | 20:30 |
| mriedem | i think part of the problem with python-libguestfs on pypi is that the python package version is directly tied to the version of libvirt it's built with | 20:31 |
| mordred | mriedem: we got libvirt python bindings shifted | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Amadeusz proposed openstack/python-jenkins master: Added folder support in views keeping backward compatibility and added tests for it. https://review.openstack.org/552559 | 20:31 |
| clarkb | mordred: well the other solution here that will be years in the making is distros using setuptools instead of distutils | 20:31 |
| clarkb | (I wish this particular fact had been communicated much ealier or at all) | 20:31 |
| mriedem | because we've seen lots of issues where people think they are using python-libguestfs at some version because the package version says it is, but that's not the version of libvirt headers it was actually compiled with | 20:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: I've given up on distros as being useful for languages with their own packaging ecosystem | 20:31 |
| clarkb | mordred: thats fine too but I think its also the right thing for them to do in general | 20:32 |
| mordred | clarkb: and I think that we should stop instlaling ANY python using dpkg or rpm EVER | 20:32 |
| clarkb | distutils is kinda bad | 20:32 |
| mordred | oh, yeah. distutils is terrible | 20:32 |
| mordred | mriedem: that's spectacular | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Félix Bouliane proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Allow to pin ubuntu version rather than current https://review.openstack.org/559167 | 20:33 |
| clarkb | libvirt binding contract is you can use libvirt python that is the same version or newer than your libvirt version | 20:33 |
| clarkb | this broke centos7 when they did a major rev on libvirt but our stable branch constraints and requirements said use older libvirt python | 20:33 |
| clarkb | (which we do to be stable then the stable distro with 10 years of life says nah who cares) | 20:34 |
| mordred | clarkb: seems like if we could get libguestfs to publish with a similar contract we'd at least not be any _more_ broken | 20:34 |
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| mordred | given that both are python libraries tied to libvirt | 20:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Amadeusz proposed openstack/python-jenkins master: Added folder support in views keeping backward compatibility and added tests for it. https://review.openstack.org/552559 | 20:46 |
| fungi | clarkb: when i brought the "stop using distutils already" topic up nicely in the context of debian's current effort to split distutils out into its own separate system package, the attitude seemed to be "so people can't `sudo pip install` stuff... why would we want them to anyway?" | 20:50 |
| clarkb | fungi: because libguestfs | 20:51 |
| clarkb | I think we've found the use case where it almost makes sense | 20:51 |
| clarkb | especially if virtualenvs with system packages break | 20:51 |
| clarkb | (I need to contrive an example of that locally and test it) | 20:51 |
| fungi | no, i mean why would distros care to make it easier to `sudo pip install` anything? they'd rather you just use system packages (and contribute to system packaging if something's missing or too old) | 20:52 |
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| clarkb | fungi: I think specifically for the case of us and others building "future" things that will get packaged down the road | 20:53 |
| clarkb | that software all comes from somewhere | 20:53 |
| ianw | prometheanfire: no, the gate was in a bit of a state last few days, i can look at a tag today | 20:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, that's the use case i've been highlighting but people on both sides seem to have some incentive to marginalize those users as unusual corner cases | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Amadeusz proposed openstack/python-jenkins master: Added folder support in views keeping backward compatibility and added tests for it. https://review.openstack.org/552559 | 20:57 |
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| mordred | fungi: yah - this is unfortunately what drives my knee-jerk statements about giving up on distros for languages with their own packaging ecosystem | 21:02 |
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| mordred | fungi: which I don't believe deep down - but on distro vs. language the battle is SO counterproductive | 21:03 |
| mikal | Hello. What do you want to say to me? | 21:03 |
| mordred | that it seems like people are cutting of their nose to spite their face | 21:03 |
| clarkb | mikal: I was debugging why nbd + nova + devstack was sad. Ended up figuring out that nbd was fallback from libguestfs and it was really libguestfs that was sad and devstack + nova + nbd likely never even worked | 21:04 |
| clarkb | mikal: I'm not sure how useful that is at this point but that may be the next logical step is deciding if we want that to be a testable option | 21:04 |
| mikal | clarkb: oh, that's interesting. We were meant to have removed the fallback for being insecure by now. | 21:04 |
| clarkb | mikal: that settles that then. mriedem seemed aware of that too so maybe it will happen this release :) | 21:05 |
| mikal | The libguestfs code is _very_ old now | 21:05 |
| mikal | i.e. shouldn't be surprising to anyone | 21:05 |
| mikal | I don't think anyone is working on it though. I vote you start a mail thread. | 21:05 |
| mriedem | mikal: you could refresh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324720/ since sdague isn't going to | 21:06 |
| clarkb | mikal: ok I can do that | 21:06 |
| clarkb | or that | 21:06 |
| mriedem | sounds like s390x can't use libguestfs until ubuntu 18.04, but... | 21:07 |
| mikal | mriedem: yeah maybe. I have other things to finish first though and very limited bandwidth. If its important it shouldn't block on me. | 21:07 |
| mikal | I totally don't care about s390x. We told the world that code would be deprecated probably four or five years ago. | 21:07 |
| clarkb | mikal: I wouldn't call it important I was just incredibly confused as a human trying to make devstack do some things | 21:07 |
| clarkb | also you can always config drive :P | 21:08 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:08 |
| mikal | Config drive is my old passion project. Deleting things from nova is what I do now. It is my calling. | 21:08 |
| clarkb | dangit tumbleweed broke qemu-bridge-helper again | 21:09 |
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| clarkb | ^^ is why its taking me so long to test psutil installation override in site package venv | 21:09 |
| clarkb | I may just push up a patch and have zuul do it for me | 21:09 |
| mordred | mikal, mriedem maye we could just stop doing file injection? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | mordred: already ahead of you: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/queens/implemented/deprecate-file-injection.html | 21:10 |
| mriedem | two things about that, | 21:10 |
| mikal | mordred: meh, I am sure that would break heaps of telco players. | 21:10 |
| mordred | mriedem: I love you in inappropriate ways | 21:10 |
| mriedem | 1. it's a microversion change, and we honor the old microversion | 21:10 |
| mordred | oh. that's less exciting :) | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | 2. you'd be surprised (probably not i guess) at how many telco people came up to me in sydney about that once we mentioned it during our project update talk | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | we can rip out the nbd localfs stuff for file injection w/o the microversion worries, we've said we'd do that since the first ptg in ATL | 21:12 |
| mriedem | that's sdague's patch | 21:12 |
| mordred | ++ | 21:12 |
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| mordred | yah - not super surprising - but they should all stop doing it, it's a bad idea and they should config-drive instead | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | i think mikal told one of them to fire their VNF vendor | 21:14 |
| mriedem | which was fun | 21:14 |
| mordred | ++ | 21:14 |
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| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/559174 should show us the pip10 systempackage behavior | 21:15 |
| clarkb | er with venvs | 21:15 |
| mordred | well- if it's just in support of file-injection, and if installing the package becomes too hard because of pip10, I think leaving it to bitrot would not make me super sad | 21:15 |
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| mordred | like, make some good mocks in a unittest somewhere to make sure it doesn't regress super bad and call it a day | 21:16 |
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| fungi | that bz tosky linked indicates they _do_ have sdists available at http://download.libguestfs.org/python/ | 21:20 |
| clarkb | ya which I guess we could mirror as an interim solution | 21:21 |
| fungi | and apparently aren't uploading to pypi for (undisclosed?) licensing reasons | 21:21 |
| clarkb | it would be nice if there were more detaisl on what the licesning conflict is | 21:21 |
| mikal | I am known for my tact | 21:21 |
| clarkb | http://zuul.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=4c5548f2b2cf4111982eeffa1e0cf0eb&logfile=console.log watching that job to see how pip 10 does in the venv | 21:21 |
| tosky | clarkb, fungi: past references: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070927.html | 21:23 |
| tosky | (I still think that, apart from the issue with the single library, not being potentially able to use system site packages would not be so great) | 21:23 |
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| clarkb | tosky: fwiw ^^ that console stream above and change https://review.openstack.org/559174 in general is testing the pip10 behavior in a virtualenv with ssystem site packages enabled | 21:24 |
| tosky | I understand that, and keeping my fingers crossed | 21:24 |
| fungi | tosky: i think it's more that we'd like to try to avoid using system-site-packages in virtualenv based installs for testing purity reasons | 21:24 |
| clarkb | its possible it works because virtualenv is sufficiently special or it doesnt' work because it isn't. We should know soon | 21:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: ++ | 21:25 |
| tosky | uhm, still a bit of integration using basic system libraries would not be so bad | 21:26 |
| clarkb | tosky: well I think pip is essentially sayting that is no longer supported in a week and a half | 21:26 |
| clarkb | so that decision is largely being made for us | 21:26 |
| tosky | how nice from them | 21:26 |
| fungi | tosky: that's what gets tricky with pip 10. they'd really rather just not support mixing pip-installed and distro-provided packages in a single context | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack-infra/irc-meetings master: Add Ops Meetup team meeting information https://review.openstack.org/559176 | 21:27 |
| fungi | they're willing to support it if the distro packages use setuptools, but that's because they want pip to have sufficient metadata to be able to "uninstall" those if you request a newer version | 21:27 |
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| clarkb | pip10 in a virtualenv did the right thing | 21:28 |
| corvus | fungi, tosky: what bz link? | 21:28 |
| fungi | so as of pip 10 it will just throw its hands up in the air if it encounters a dependency installed with distutils instead | 21:28 |
| fungi | corvus: oh, from the ml | 21:28 |
| clarkb | it notices that it wants to uninstall the thing that it can't uninstall the thing but that it is from a different env so ignores it and moves on | 21:28 |
| fungi | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1075594 | 21:29 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1075594 in libguestfs "RFE: python-libguestfs should be available on pypi" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to rjones | 21:29 |
| clarkb | so I think this is a viable workaround | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | I'll paste links to the mailing list as soon as the job uploads them | 21:29 |
| fungi | clarkb: thanks! that matches my expectations at least, so that's good ;) | 21:29 |
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| mordred | fungi: I have sent an email to richard fontana and markmc internally about the issue of getting the tarballs uploaded to pypi | 21:31 |
| corvus | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077272.html is relevant | 21:32 |
| smcginnis | dmsimard and I were talking about ops meetup team logs. | 21:33 |
| smcginnis | There are a few typo'd logs out there. | 21:33 |
| smcginnis | Wondering it it would hurt anything to have those moved into the correct log history folder. | 21:33 |
| dmsimard | Yeah, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetup_team/ vs http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ops_meetups_team/ | 21:33 |
| dmsimard | Can we/should we move them ? | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/puppet-askbot master: Basic rspec test https://review.openstack.org/558991 | 21:34 |
| fungi | mordred: corvus: leads me to wonder if the warehouse signup on pypi.org is the same | 21:34 |
| clarkb | is the problem that the singup doesn't function or that there is a license conflict? i'm not sure what the problem is | 21:35 |
| mordred | fungi: I just registered for an account on warehouse | 21:35 |
| fungi | smcginnis: dmsimard: they embed internal links so just dumping them in a directory together would leave the minutes broken | 21:35 |
| mordred | fungi: and there was no soul-sucking anything | 21:35 |
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| mordred | that was on https://pypi.org/ | 21:36 |
| dmsimard | fungi: the links aren't relative ? | 21:36 |
| fungi | mordred: they _may_ have been referring to the project registration form, which even pypi.python.org has done away with now | 21:36 |
| fungi | dmsimard: the filenames also embed the meeting name | 21:36 |
| mordred | fungi: well, and it's been not a thing on pypi for forever (at leats 10 years) if you used 'python setup.py register' | 21:36 |
| dmsimard | fungi: yeah that's sort of the point, actually -- people have over the years typo'd the name of the meeting so the logs aren't all in the same place. | 21:37 |
| fungi | dmsimard: ahh, yeah i guess as long as you don't also want to rename the meeting log files it should probably work | 21:37 |
| dmsimard | (There's a lot of those, actually, if you look at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ ) | 21:37 |
| fungi | dmsimard: oh, i know. we've generally not "fixed" those situations because they may also invalidate old links on mailing lists and in irc channel logs | 21:38 |
| dmsimard | makes sense | 21:38 |
| fungi | dmsimard: even the infra team has called its meeting more than one thing in the past, we just document both the new and old locations for our meeting logs/minutes | 21:38 |
| clarkb | ml updated with pip10 + venv + system-site-packages info | 21:38 |
| smcginnis | Probably OK to just leave them if there is a risk of breaking something. | 21:39 |
| smcginnis | It hasn't been raised by the group as an issue, so probably doesn't cause any heartburn to leave them as is. | 21:39 |
| fungi | dmsimard: ahh, yeah so the links in the minutes are relative, but since the log files start with the meeting name they won't sort chronologically anyway if they get dumped into the same directory | 21:40 |
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| clarkb | ianw: corvus andreaf frickler at this point it may actually be worthwhile skimming https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558930/ to help figure out if it is improvable to a state we'd be happy merging it. (and how to do that) | 21:43 |
| clarkb | which reminds me there are a couple zuul changes I need to go review now | 21:43 |
| fungi | ianw: on 553894, does fqdn_rand() return a string type instead of an integer type? | 21:46 |
| fungi | it seems like we were using strings there for a reason, but maybe it doesn't matter any longer | 21:46 |
| clarkb | fungi: I think it may have been a puppet lint style thing but not improper otherwise? | 21:48 |
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| fungi | ahh, i'd buy that | 21:48 |
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| ianw | mordred: i'm pretty regularly seeing "Failure from finger client: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 1023: unexpected end of data" on the web console, is this a known issue? | 21:52 |
| corvus | that's a suspicious character offset | 21:53 |
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| corvus | i think we chunk some things at 1024 chars | 21:54 |
| corvus | Shrews: ^ | 21:54 |
| corvus | ianw: is it, by any chance, when you first open it up and it catches up with the backlog? | 21:54 |
| corvus | ianw: also, have a link handy? | 21:54 |
| fungi | xe2 is valid utf-8 but not unicode | 21:55 |
| ianw | corvus: the job was http://zuul.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=45f62339c0fb42f6a1985c253d0f7f37&logfile=console.log | 21:55 |
| fungi | er, other way around, sorry | 21:55 |
| fungi | you can b'\xe2'.encode('utf-8') just fine | 21:56 |
| corvus | yeah, several parts of the streaming pipeline read 1024 bytes at a time then try to decode them | 21:57 |
| fungi | ohh | 21:57 |
| corvus | so they could easily be spanning character boundaries | 21:57 |
| fungi | so this could be a truncation issue | 21:57 |
| fungi | right | 21:57 |
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| fungi | there's gotta be an existing stdlib solution for that which doesn't just boil down to retrying .decode() up to 3 times tacking on another byte from the buffer each time until it (hopefully) succeeds | 21:58 |
| ianw | yeah, and i reloaded it, but from memory it was in the middle of printing out puppet libraries or something with fancy tree graphics | 21:59 |
| fungi | but i suppose if it happens infrequently, that's not a huge performance penalty | 21:59 |
| clarkb | I think you can set the encoding on bytestreams and it will spit them out character by character rather than bytebybte | 21:59 |
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| clarkb | like when you set it on a file open | 21:59 |
| fungi | clarkb: oh, right-o | 21:59 |
| corvus | actually this might just be in the websocket streamer | 22:01 |
| corvus | ianw: an interesting check might be to try using finger to get the log the next time you see the error in the web console | 22:01 |
| ianw | corvus: http://zuul.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=950892dd5d3445ba954b765db884d496&logfile=console.log is the same job running now | 22:01 |
| corvus | ianw: finger and the web console are both returning errors, but not the one you indicated | 22:03 |
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| ianw | looks like it just started | 22:03 |
| corvus | ah just hadn't started yet. i guess that's still not fixed. | 22:03 |
| corvus | ianw: how far does it have to get before it errors? | 22:04 |
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| ianw | corvus: i've been watching this job fairly closely yesterday afternoon and this morning, and have seen it a few times. i feel like it needs to get towards the end | 22:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Enable shared volumes in reprepro-mirror-update https://review.openstack.org/557588 | 22:05 |
| corvus | ianw: and it occurs with a long-running stream open, or when you just open it? | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Offset cron jobs slightly https://review.openstack.org/553894 | 22:05 |
| ianw | corvus: here was another time i mentioned it http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2018-04-04.log.html#t2018-04-04T04:26:15 | 22:06 |
| ianw | corvus: ummm ... i think i had jumped in on it close to the end, to see if it was working. so i'd say more the latter | 22:06 |
| corvus | ianw: okay, that both makes sense and reduces the chances it's individually reproducible. | 22:07 |
| corvus | ianw: however, that info, combined with the exacte error message you linked earlier, all but confirms that the error is here: http://git.zuul-ci.org/cgit/zuul/tree/zuul/web/__init__.py#n64 | 22:09 |
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| ianw | so basically it's chopped off half a unicode character? | 22:11 |
| openstackgerrit | matthew sewell proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual master: Corrects reported errors in the sandbox documentation https://review.openstack.org/559180 | 22:12 |
| corvus | yeah | 22:12 |
| corvus | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35036921/asyncio-decode-utf-8-with-streamreader | 22:12 |
| corvus | fungi: i bet i know what https://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html#codecs.IncrementalDecoder does :) | 22:13 |
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| ianw | "If this is the last call to decode() final must be true (the default is false)" is a clue | 22:14 |
| ianw | still, it has a fancy name | 22:15 |
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| corvus | clarkb: generally that change lgtm. i haven't followed everything. i don't grok the rootwrap stuff, but if someone else does, ++ | 22:16 |
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| ianw | corvus: yeah, it just bailed out on http://zuul.openstack.org/stream.html?uuid=9a0ab1a4e762423293ba981b1750dceb&logfile=console.log | 23:30 |
| ianw | but finger is still going | 23:30 |
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| pabelanger | o/ been out most of the day today. Will catch up on back scroll shortly | 23:40 |
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| ianw | ^ i'm not really certain the rspec jobs are properly obeying depends-on ... does that ring any bells? | 23:45 |
| clarkb | ianw: yes, if the project uses our rspec helper lib I think it should work | 23:46 |
| clarkb | ianw: but pabelanger found puppet-gerrit wasn't using it recently as an example of one that had to be updated | 23:46 |
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| pabelanger | yah, puppt-gerrit was updated to fix that | 23:49 |
| pabelanger | puppet* | 23:49 |
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| ianw | hmm, i think it is , may very well be my mistake | 23:58 |
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