Friday, 2018-05-18

portdirectthings are working fine for osh, and osh-addons, which consume the same roles00:00
portdirectheres the task thats proving problematic: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/blob/master/roles/gather-host-logs/tasks/main.yaml#L34-L3900:01
ianwhmm, that's a good one00:02
fungiianw: very much x11 (straight up xinit from a virtual console with ratpoison as my wm... fairly old-school i guess)00:04
ianwportdirect: maybe try adding "verify_host: true" and/or "copy_links: true"?00:08
ianwportdirect: just to fill out the task_vars with something.  would be interesting if that works00:09
portdirectianw: lamt tried a variation on that with no joy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569252/4/roles/gather-host-logs/tasks/main.yaml00:11
portdirectbut I'll give it a crack with no other changes00:12
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ianwhttps://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/9eb2a6b41b80d07cca36fe607e0bfe331d8b08ba/lib/ansible/plugins/action/synchronize.py#L11900:15
ianwhow has that got "key" as "None"?00:15
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ianwi guess something must basically add "task_vars[None] = ..."00:18
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ianwportdirect: i'll be this is it -> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/blob/master/playbooks/vars.yaml#L1500:30
ianwbet even00:30
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fungiyeah, that playbook is a bit of a head-scratcher00:37
fungi4 days old00:38
fungihttps://review.openstack.org/567463 seems to be the context for that00:41
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portdirectfungi / ianw: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569294/1/playbooks/vars.yaml00:47
portdirectthanks again :)00:48
ianwlatin works, put a unicode snowman in there if you want to break other stuff i bet :)00:50
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fungimore appropriate would be a unicode stein 🍺00:54
ianwfungi: i put together nodepool build logs via https in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569008/ and related patches, if you have time00:55
ianwi did quickly hack in similar between puppet runs on nb03.o.o, and could actually talk to the webserver on it.  without that, i just get weird connection resets00:56
fungicool, and yeah i saw some of that in scrollback00:56
fungimakes me wonder what's going on in china00:57
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove jobs from ansible-role-ssh  https://review.openstack.org/56930201:45
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ianwportdirect: i opened https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/40370 and we'll see if it's a bug or a feature i guess ...01:47
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portdirectthanks ianw01:49
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portdirectmy code is usually a collection of bugs, with the occasional unintended feature ;)01:50
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ianwi'm not really sure with that one.  possibly the synchronize module is incorrect in assuming it can call .startswith() on everything in task_vars.keys()01:53
ianwor, the framework should be more careful about check that everything *in* task_vars.keys() is a string?01:54
ianweither way, i think there's a bug somewhere01:54
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dmsimard|offianw: I like the idea of virtualizing your things :)02:26
dmsimard|offI might steal it.02:26
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ianwdmsimard|off: it's nice when you switch laptops and just cp.  spice might be at the point it can be usefully used for interactive desktops now ...02:47
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add Ubuntu 18.04 support  https://review.openstack.org/56910304:47
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Replace the ubuntu-minimal trusty test with a bionic one  https://review.openstack.org/56932404:55
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Log connection port in static driver on timeout  https://review.openstack.org/56933405:59
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/56933506:03
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openstackgerritTobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Correctly use connection-port in static driver  https://review.openstack.org/56933906:23
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb master: Remove leading whitespaces from the Gerrit welcome message  https://review.openstack.org/31092608:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Normalize projects.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/56933509:25
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openstackgerritMarkos Chandras (hwoarang) proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: elements: zypper-minimal: Add support for openSUSE Leap 15.X  https://review.openstack.org/56938310:57
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openstackgerritFelipe Monteiro proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Enable py27/py35 unit test jobs for airship projects  https://review.openstack.org/56925411:08
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pabelangerI start my travels this morning, see people in Vancouver11:09
openstackgerritFelipe Monteiro proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Enable py27/py35 unit test jobs for airship projects  https://review.openstack.org/56925411:10
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Publish metalsmith docs to readthedocs  https://review.openstack.org/56939011:21
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mordredfungi, mark-burnett: do you happen to know if Felipe Monteiro has an irc presence?12:38
mordredpabelanger: see you there!12:38
fungimordred: sorry, no clue but i'll ask around12:39
fungimordred: though https://launchpad.net/~fm577c mentions a "felipemonteiro on freenode" so that's going to be my guess12:40
mordredfungi: mostly just wanting to kick off a chat about whether or not it makes sense to manage airship's tox jobs centrally as I don't think they're bound by the PTI or anything like that12:41
fungisure12:41
fungimakes sense12:41
mordredfungi: although I definitely appreciate the current work to do the 'right thing' - I mostly just want to check in to make sure we've defined 'right thing' correctly for them12:41
fungiabsolutely12:42
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fungimordred: https://review.openstack.org/430481 also suggests it was the same irc nick back when he was murano ptl anyway12:48
mordredfungi: cool12:50
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mark-burnettmordred, fungi: he's still using felipemonteiro12:54
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mark-burnettIt seems that we can certainly start by managing tox jobs within each airship project, and as we understand better what the 'right thing' is, we can adjust.12:56
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mordredmark-burnett: cool. I mean, you're obviously welcome to manage them in project-config - I just don't want to make sure we're sorting out what the right balance is for you12:59
mark-burnettmordred: thanks, I really appreciate how helpful you all have been :)13:00
mordredand learning together which bits of openstack-project workflow choices are good suggestions for others to adopt13:00
mordrednew users are exciting :)13:00
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zigoHow hard would it be to get jobs to test project APIs with libapache-mode-wsgi-py3 and uwsgi?13:34
zigoThat's re: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130643.html ...13:34
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zigoOh, and with SSL ...13:34
zigomordred: ^13:35
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mordredzigo: it shouldn't be hard - as long as devstack (or something) knows how to install such an openstack13:36
zigook13:36
zigoVery good pointer, thanks !13:36
mordredzigo: the new devstack base job is set up so that it's basically just providing devstack config variables to things13:36
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zigomordred: I'm a bit pissed, because I spent half of the week on this cruft... (and I'm being polite with the word "curft" ...)13:37
mordredzigo: well - (just read your mail) - two thing13:39
mordredzigo: first off: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstacksdk/tree/.zuul.yaml#n43 and http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstacksdk/tree/.zuul.yaml#n179 might be good examples to look at for how to set up jobs with specific devstack configs - just in case that's a road you ever find yourself needing to go down13:39
mordredzigo: for the second, glance, I believe, has known issues with only supporting a subset of wsgi operation modes that the rest of things support - I can't remember the specifics, but it's a todo-list item for sure13:41
zigoAh, good to know.13:41
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mordredit has something to do, iirc, with custom code written to handle the uploads of image files13:42
zigoI'm in such a situation where there's no working modes at all ... :/13:42
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dtantsurhey folks! the readthedocs trigger job seems broken: http://logs.openstack.org/5f/5fffc7ae2b89c050b81b541161df5bcedd3928c6/post/trigger-readthedocs/eb8b7be/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-18_14_26_53_01561614:29
dtantsur"This API endpoint is deprecated"14:29
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Replace use of aiohttp with cherrypy  https://review.openstack.org/56795914:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Convert streaming unit test to ws4py and remove aiohttp  https://review.openstack.org/56833514:30
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: DNM: disable test log capture  https://review.openstack.org/56942914:30
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dtantsuror maybe it just requires some custom configuration? /me no idea14:31
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dtantsurwell, I think it's broken: the URL does not match https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/webhooks.html and there does not seem to be a way to provide a TOKEN14:34
dtantsurmordred: where can I ready about adding secrets to zuul jobs? the pre-existing readthedocs job seems too outdated to work..14:34
mordreddtantsur: oh! hrm. looking ... one sec14:36
fungiinteresting. they removed the anonymous rebuild trigger?14:37
mordredit seems so14:37
fungii guess it's a great thing we have secrets support implemented in zuul v3 ;)14:37
mordredyah - although it's annoyingly heavyweight for people to need to add a secret and essentially a custom job to do thais14:38
mordredit looks like there is also an option to use an authenticated user account - maybe we should get zuul a rtd user and update that job to use it14:39
fungidtantsur: as for documentation on secrets, https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/user/encryption.html#encryption and https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/user/config.html#secret and https://zuul-ci.org/docs/zuul/user/config.html#attr-job.secrets are the highlights14:40
fungimordred: and then the project owner on rtd authorizes that account?14:40
dtantsurthanks!14:40
fungithat may be more user-friendly, i agree14:41
mordredfungi: yah. I'm not sure that'll fully fix things though - since that would mean we'd need to shadow the readthedocs job in project-config and thus is wouldn't fully be a shared job in zuul-jobs - even though it should be a shareable task14:42
mordredcorvus: ^^ maybe let's chat about this in vancouver - there is a pattern here that might be good to examine14:43
fungiwell, it sounds like the current job from zuul-jobs is useless anyway, right?14:45
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corvusmordred: agreed; i think we're still going to end up needing namespacing + inheritance14:47
corvusmordred, fungi: though, for the moment, maybe we can try having openstack-rtd-hook inherit the zuul-jobs version and just add our secret?14:48
corvusthat's... actually, maybe even the right thing in this case14:49
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fungisounds reasonable14:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Fix race in test_reconfigure_window_fixed  https://review.openstack.org/56912914:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Revert "Revert "Switch to stestr""  https://review.openstack.org/56894915:00
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dtantsurfungi: so, should I move from the trigger-readthedocs job for the time being?15:10
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fungidtantsur: sounds like we have some ideas for fixing the shared job to not require you to carry your own version with an api token15:13
fungithough i thnik also rtd rebuilds automatically on a regular cadence, daily or something? so not having the hook job working just yet probably isn't crippling15:14
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dtantsurfungi: okay, then I'll just trigger it manually for now and will wait for good news :)15:14
dtantsurthere is a "Build" button, with my commit rate it's fine :)15:14
fungiokay15:15
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clarkbzigo: mordred fwiw devstack has largely settled on doing ssl testing with a frontend terminating ssl because it has allowed devstack to largely have a single config for all the projects and get ssl out of it rather than figuring out who does and doesn't directly support ssl and how to terminate on the backend15:18
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clarkbthis mode is tested on python2 and python3 iirc15:19
clarkband should work as we gate on it15:19
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fungiand it's more similar to how most production deployments are going to be done anyway15:19
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fungi(ssl termination on a proxy device rather than on the service host)15:20
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clarkbI'm mostly back today but will be packing for the summit and reviewing summit session prep. Is there anything else I can help with before we jump into a week of summit?15:25
dtantsurthough looking at https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs.org/issues/1112#issuecomment-105708766 I wonder if we better support a saner hosting15:26
dtantsurthis disallows following OpenStack PTI15:26
fungiwe had designed the updated pti entry for documentation builds explicitly to be compatible with rtd15:27
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clarkbright new docs builds install just the project irght?15:27
clarkbwhich is what rtd does15:27
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clarkb(along with sphinx)15:27
dtantsurclarkb: they can handle only one requirements file15:27
clarkbdtantsur: ya thats how the new docs pti works out effectively iirc15:28
dtantsurso using autodoc with the default PTI is plainly impossible15:28
fungiwe track specific documentation build requirements in doc/requirements.txt15:28
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dtantsurright, and if I ask rtd to install doc/requirements.txt, it won't install requirements.txt, soooo autodoc still won't work!15:28
fungiper the recentish updates to the pti15:28
clarkbdtantsur: it will if you pbr because they still have to install the project itself iirc15:29
dtantsurclarkb: well, it does not :( I have a lot of RED builds at my hand15:29
dtantsurprobably because they use $ python setup.py install, no idea15:29
dtantsurI don't see it trying to install anything15:30
clarkbthat may be a separate option then. I know it is possible15:30
dtantsurwell, given that they're not open to customizing this, I don't know what to do..15:30
dtantsurI wish we opened docs.openstack.org for non-official projects....15:30
clarkbdtantsur: I'm saying this is doable with rtd15:31
clarkbyou just have to toggle an option iirc. dib ran into this too I want to say15:31
clarkbI'm looking for itn now15:31
corvusdtantsur: maybe with our increasing focus on supporting non-openstack projects with our infrastructure, we should come up with a hosting solution like that.15:31
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clarkbdtantsur: "If you have the Install Project option enabled, we will run setup.py install on your package, installing it into a virtual environment."15:33
dtantsurtried this15:33
clarkbdtantsur: you need to flip that bit then pbr should do the right thing15:33
dtantsurnope, it won't15:33
clarkbdtantsur: you said earlier it wasn't installing your project...15:33
dtantsurit's not installing requirements, not the project itself15:33
dtantsurand without requirements autodoc fails15:34
clarkbI do know that another project ran into this at one time (I want to say dib) and flipping that option fixed it15:34
clarkbdtantsur: does your project use pbr?15:34
dtantsuractually, I already have this enabled15:34
dtantsuryep15:34
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clarkbdo you have a link to the failed run with that option enabled?15:34
dtantsureven funnier: the build passed twice, with two different options, but never again >_<15:34
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dtantsurlemme retrigger it15:35
clarkbbut also why can't you just add all the content you need into your docs requirements file?15:35
clarkbthat is the prupose of this file15:36
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fungiis it possible that pbr needs to also be listed as a runtime dep on the project for autodoc to work the way they're installing things?15:36
dtantsurclarkb: copy-paste the whole requirements.txt? well, I can, but it's ugly..15:37
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clarkbdtantsur: no just refer back to the other file15:37
dtantsurclarkb: I think this was the last build: https://readthedocs.org/projects/metalsmith/builds/7211971/15:37
dtantsurclarkb: I'm afraid that relative paths may not work15:37
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Replace use of aiohttp with cherrypy  https://review.openstack.org/56795915:39
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Convert streaming unit test to ws4py and remove aiohttp  https://review.openstack.org/56833515:39
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openstackgerritDavid Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Simplify driver API  https://review.openstack.org/56870415:43
dtantsurcorvus: yeah, I don't think hosting non-official docs will put a stress on the infrastructure compared to running their CI jobs :)15:44
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clarkbya using setup.py install appears to not install the deps. I guess that is a carried over easy_install/distutils behavior?15:46
fungidtantsur: fwiw, we already have a solution for this more or less implemented... e.g. https://zuul-ci.org/docs/15:46
fungi(zuul is not an openstack team deliverable any longer)15:46
clarkbit will still process the deps and add them to the setup() metadata aiui15:46
corvusyeah, it's easy for projects with websites.  we don't have a website for projects without websites :)15:46
fungiright, that's something i hope we can at least find time to bikeshed on next week15:46
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul-website master: Add a "Get Started" button  https://review.openstack.org/56945015:46
fungiwe need to pick a domain15:46
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corvusspeaking of websites15:47
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clarkbdtantsur: have you tested if relative paths will work?15:47
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dtantsurnon-official.openstack.org?15:47
clarkbdtantsur: seems to work for me15:48
clarkbdtantsur: even when running it out of the root path and having a relative path in doc/requirements.txt15:48
* dtantsur starts to regret dropping term "stackforge"15:48
dtantsurclarkb: no, it was a guess. I can try it.15:48
corvusi'm really hoping we can avoid repeating nongnu.org15:48
clarkbmy testing says it should work15:49
fungicorvus: agreed15:49
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clarkbit ends up applying the dirname of current requirements file as prefix to all -r entries in that file so the ../requirements.txt gets written as doc/../requirements.txt and works15:49
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dtantsurclarkb, corvus, I wonder how bad it is to just drop everything at docs.openstack.org and avoid bikeshedding :)15:50
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fungidtantsur: there are significant concerns with continuing putting the openstack name on non-openstack projects (work toward getting rid of the openstack git namespace, et cetera). avoiding the appearance of official endorsement was the reason we never published docs for unofficial projects at docs.openstack.org15:51
clarkbya and that came from the docs team not us iirc15:51
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clarkbor at least they had significant say in that matter and that was their stance15:52
dtantsurI see, yeah. though hosting stuff on github/openstack does the same already IMO15:52
* dtantsur votes for reviving stackforge :)15:52
fungidtantsur: right, part of the plan for the git namespace fix is to move unofficial projects (and probably even most openstack projects) out of that openstack namespace on github15:53
fungiideas have been floated like putting service projects in the openstack org there but libraries in an openstack-libs org and so on15:53
dtantsuraha! interesting15:53
dtantsurhmm, I don't see big point in the latter, but I definitely see the value in moving out unofficial projects15:54
fungimainly to address people coming to this new, thinking github.org/openstack is where openstack is, and suddenly getting bewildered by a thousand projects15:54
dtantsurthen whatever namespace we use for them should probably be used for docs?15:54
corvusfungi: i'd still like to meet that person :)15:54
dtantsurbetter scare them in advance than while they try to install the beast :D15:54
fungisame15:54
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dtantsuranyway, the trick with the relative path seems to work (clarkb++) and seems the lesser evil right now15:55
fungidtantsur: the idea being you could have a github.com/metalsmith org and your gerrit repository would be replicated there and to our-rad-new-infra-domain.org/metalsmith or something15:55
fungiand then publish docs at docs.our-rad-new-infra-domain.org/metalsmith and so on15:56
dtantsurinteresting15:56
fungiand (once all this is worked out) there would be no "openstack" in any of the domain names, url paths, et cetera for metalsmith15:56
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fungithe idea is that the openstack project just becomes yet one more consumer of the systems at our-rad-new-infra-domain.org15:57
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dtantsurright15:58
corvus++15:58
dtantsurthis does sound less confusing than it is now15:58
corvusvery non-nongnu15:58
dtantsurlol15:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/diskimage-builder master: Add Ubuntu 18.04 support  https://review.openstack.org/56910315:58
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fungidtantsur: it's basically the culmination of the "people are confused about what is and isn't openstack" and "the openstack foundation wants to start fostering other projects besides openstack"15:59
fungiso we're already hosting new mailing list domains (lists.zuul-ci.org, lists.katacontainers.io, lists.airshipit.org...)16:00
clarkbit does make me wonder why so much weight is placed on what is and isn't openstack that this is a problem in the first place but I can't solve that one16:00
fungiand new git sites (git.zuul-ci.org)16:00
fungiwhich basically make no mention of openstack other than subtle nods to "managed by the openstack foundation" or something16:01
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dtantsurand now a build passed Oo https://readthedocs.org/projects/metalsmith/builds/7212075/16:02
dtantsurI start to suspect they don't clean up the environment between builds16:02
fungidtantsur: we have a solution for that too! ;)16:02
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dtantsurfungi: storyboard will also be split then?16:04
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clarkbI think the idea is less to split everything and more to host under a neutral name/brand16:05
fungidtantsur: possibly multiple instances, or possibly denamespaced and moved to a different domain. haven't really talked that one through yet16:05
clarkbthen for specific things like website hosting give individual projects their specific brand16:05
dtantsurI see16:05
dtantsurwell, yeah, when we used launchpad, we did not have openstack anywhere in the names16:06
clarkbat least that is how I envision it. No one has a problem using github for example as a neutral hosting brand16:06
corvus[to be clear, we're not much past the batting-around-ideas stage]16:06
fungibut yeah, wherever possible we'd like to not have to host multiple copies of a complex service16:06
clarkbbut then they have their github pages with their specific branding16:06
dtantsurcorvus: sure, I get it. but it's Friday evening and I'm curious :)16:06
corvusclarkb: lol "no one" :)16:06
clarkbcorvus: thats a generous no one I concur :)16:06
fungibasically we have to weigh options for each service against resource constraints (both in terms of systems and humans needed)16:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Add additional steps for configuring Zuul services on CentOS 7  https://review.openstack.org/56507516:08
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eumel8hello infra team! Maybe it's too far away, but is there a possibility to get a merge on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531809/ ? Zanata team changed the install medium from zip to war and this is covered in this patch for puppet-zanata.16:11
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dtantsurclarkb: if metalsmith ever switches to follow g-r, will it become a problem to have -r ../requirements.txt in doc/requirements.txt?16:14
clarkbdtantsur: I'm not sure, prometheanfire may know16:14
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fungii don't think doc/requirements.txt is expected to follow global requirements, but yeah better asked in #openstack-requirements i expect16:15
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dtantsurpkg_resources.RequirementParseError: Invalid requirement, parse error at "u'-r ../re'"16:16
dtantsuryep, I think it will break16:16
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prometheanfireI think it has to be one req list, not multiple files16:17
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dtantsursigh16:19
dtantsurif only rtd folks supported several files....16:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Add additional steps for configuring Nodepool service on CentOS 7  https://review.openstack.org/56495016:23
dtantsurfolks, does this look about right? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/569452/16:23
dtantsur(re this problem with requirements)16:23
clarkbdtantsur: another option on the rtd side may be to ask them to use pip to install the project16:26
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clarkbthat won't be fixed overnight though16:26
clarkband yes that looks right to me16:26
dtantsurclarkb: thanks!16:26
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openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Remove non-maintained ubuntu-core element  https://review.openstack.org/56907716:28
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/zuul master: Add CentOS 7 environment setup instructions  https://review.openstack.org/56494816:29
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clarkbeumel8: I think we may want to babysit that change on the dev server first and make sure that all the required libs get installed as needed. I don't have time to help with that right now with the summit approaching but can help after next week16:41
clarkbeumel8: the existing zip files haven't been deleted have they?16:42
eumel8clarkb: yes, they changed it in the other way as expected. war files are the future and the zip files are gone.16:43
eumel8clarkb: for the current release we are save. it affects only future updates16:43
eumel8clarkb: maybe you want to move from puppet to ansible completly, I don't know.16:44
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dmsimard|offclarkb, fungi: sent a new (hopefully last) patchset for the help-wanted deck: https://review.openstack.org/56803116:49
openstackgerritRoman Gorshunov proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Allow to rebuild arbitrary images  https://review.openstack.org/56869716:51
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dmsimard|offalso fwiw I tested it with my presentty docker image (I don't remember why but I couldn't get presentty to work properly on fedora a few weeks back)16:53
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eumel8dmsimard: what you mean with Puppet 5 ? (spoiler: no)? Is Puppet 5 an option for you or not?16:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/project-config master: Add Zuul project for kayobe-config  https://review.openstack.org/56858817:01
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fungieumel8: the plan being proposed still leaves room for a migration to puppet 5 if the effort to replace all our puppetry with ansible isn't close to completion by the time puppet 4 reaches end of life17:06
fungibut under that plan, ideally we'll be far enough along that finishing the ansible work will be less effort than switching from puppet 4 to puppet 5 by the time puppet 4 is eol17:07
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eumel8fungi: ah, got it, thx!17:08
dmsimard|offeumel8: I should perhaps make it a bit more obvious if you're reading the slides (i.e, not participating in the actual talk)17:08
dmsimard|offeumel8: thanks for asking the question :D17:09
eumel8dmsimard: yeah, just overflow it and from the 10k view it was not clear what is the direction. In our company we've just arrived Puppet 4 and you guys are talking about EOL ;)17:11
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dmsimard|offeumel8: The long story short is that we have a LOT of puppet3 things right now and over we've grown increasingly familiar with Ansible, in part thanks to Zuul. We're now at a crossroads between upgrading everything to puppet 5 or take the opportunity to transition to Ansible and containers. If you'd like to help weigh in on the discussions, they're ongoing:17:24
dmsimard|offhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/infra-specs+status:open17:24
dmsimard|offLike fungi mentioned, we'll likely end up somewhere in between -- making sure our things are puppet4 compliant and transition to Ansible and containers. It's not going to happen overnight :)17:25
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eumel8dmsimard: Yes, I saw Monty's proposals this week and I think it's not an easy decission. Like this puppet-zanata stuff what I try to maintain a little bit. And where I look for reviewers a while :)17:31
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dmsimard|offaye, I once wrote a lot of puppet but I'm very rusty at it now and frankly vastly prefer Ansible now. Less magic, top down and straightforward execution, etc. That doesn't make Puppet bad, it's just a personal preference at this point.17:33
dmsimard|offI mean, I used puppetboard as an inspiration for writing ara :)17:33
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eumel8dmsimard: not a bad experience. I would also move from Puppet to Ansible, but after writing lots of stuff with jmespath it comes also to the limits.17:46
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fungiokay, disappearing for at least the next 5-6 hours17:56
fungiwill try to check in from my hotel by the airport later tonight17:56
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tusharHi All18:02
clarkbfungi: have a good trip18:02
clarkbtushar: hello18:02
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tusharCan we use https instead  of ssh to connect in gerrit server in zuul (third party ci ) ?18:03
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clarkbtushar: there is no event stream over https but otherwise you can iirc. There is work to add mqtt support to zuul which should allow us to receive the event stream over http(s) but that is still a work in progress18:03
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Add more explanatory text to zuul-from-scratch  https://review.openstack.org/56948218:04
clarkbtushar: are you having specific problems with ssh?18:04
tusharwe are facing issue to communicate with review.openstack.org via 2941818:05
clarkbtushar: did this happen around May 2nd? We moved the Gerrit server at that time and you may need to update your firewall rules18:05
tusharas we have CI setup inside firewall18:05
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clarkb(we gave everyone a month notice on the mailing list to try and make the transition as easy as possible)18:05
tusharclarkb: yeh after the IP change (2nd May) it started failing18:06
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clarkbyou'll likely need to update your firewall rules in that case18:06
tusharclarkb : yes that needs to be done. I was checking other possible ways like https streaming18:07
tusharor any other  workaround18:08
clarkbI'm not aware of any currently. In the future mqtt may be an option (or the option if we move to it)18:08
dmsimard|offfungi: safe travels ! I'm T-24 hours :)18:09
tusharclarkb : ok. Thanks18:10
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tusharclarkb : any idea , can we use zuul v3 in third party ci?18:19
openstackgerritIan Y. Choi proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata master: Order of the classes parameters is refactored  https://review.openstack.org/29538218:20
tusharI mean is there any zuul v3 documentation available?18:20
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openstackgerritIan Y. Choi proposed openstack-infra/puppet-zanata master: Order of the classes parameters is refactored  https://review.openstack.org/29538218:21
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mtreinishclarkb: like to subscribe to the gerrit stream?18:24
mtreinishif so zuul doesn't support it yet, but the stream over mqtt is there18:24
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mordredmtreinish: yah - it's the consumption plugin for zuul that's needed18:25
mordredtushar: you can totally use it for third-party (some of the new features were designed with third-party in mind) and there is documentation - but we don't have anything like puppet-openstackci aimed specifically at third-party operators yet so we haven't started suggesting that third-party ci folks migrate to it18:25
corvustushar: here are the docs for zuul itself (not related to third-party ci): https://zuul-ci.org/docs/18:25
mtreinishmordred: fwiw, it should be fairly straightforward to add to zuul. The data is identical to what's over the ssh event stream18:25
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mtreinishit should mostly just be about swapping out gerritlib for paho.mqtt in a copy of the existing gerrit plugin18:27
mordredmtreinish: tristanC wrote an mqtt reporter which has the +2s needed - but isn't landed because pre-summit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535543/ - so soonish we should be able to publish zuul events into firehose18:27
mtreinishmordred: yep, I saw that. I'm looking forward to getting more services into the firehose18:27
mordredmtreinish: and yeah, I don't expect it to be *hard* work - it's just got to get done18:28
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tusharmtreinish : can we use this mqtt in zuul , to listen gerrit patches?18:30
mordrednot yet18:30
clarkbtushar: not yet, is what I was saying earlier. It is feasible but the work isn't done for that yet18:30
mtreinishtushar: zuul doesn't support it yet18:31
corvusmtreinish: is websocket support working?18:31
mtreinishcorvus: it is18:31
tusharmtreinish, clarkb : ok..18:31
corvusmtreinish: what isn't working?18:32
corvusssl?18:32
mtreinishcorvus: it works. Here's an example I integrated a console into this blog post: https://blog.kortar.org/?p=56518:33
corvushuh, i thought you had to turn something off.  sorry.18:33
mtreinishwe did for a while, there is still an open bug with mosquitto18:33
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mtreinishbut after upgrading to the latest release to address some DOS CVEs the problems got fixed18:34
corvusoh good18:34
mtreinishthere is an issue when mosquitto gets a sighup on logrotate it crashes the tls websockets listener18:34
mtreinishbut fungi worked around that (I think by changing the logrotate rules, but I don't remember exactly)18:35
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack-infra/elastic-recheck master: Add query for cells v1 rebuild + keypair bug 1772088  https://review.openstack.org/56948918:36
openstackbug 1772088 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ServerShowV254Test.test_rebuild_server fails with OrphanedObjectError in cells v1" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772088 - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms)18:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/elastic-recheck master: Add query for cells v1 rebuild + keypair bug 1772088  https://review.openstack.org/56948918:57
openstackbug 1772088 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "ServerShowV254Test.test_rebuild_server fails with OrphanedObjectError in cells v1" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772088 - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms)18:57
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mtreinishooh, looks like there is a new version of the git wire protocol in the next release: https://opensource.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-git-protocol-version-2.html19:01
clarkbjust in time for us to stop using git://19:04
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corvushuh, i didn't realize the current version supported virtualization19:52
corvusi guess we could virtualize our git:// protocol access... but still, i'd rather just remove it :)19:53
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Replace use of aiohttp with cherrypy  https://review.openstack.org/56795920:25
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Convert streaming unit test to ws4py and remove aiohttp  https://review.openstack.org/56833520:26
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Add never_capture test decorator  https://review.openstack.org/56951520:26
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Add never_capture test decorator  https://review.openstack.org/56951520:46
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Replace use of aiohttp with cherrypy  https://review.openstack.org/56795920:46
openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Convert streaming unit test to ws4py and remove aiohttp  https://review.openstack.org/56833520:46
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openstackgerritJames E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Add never_capture test decorator  https://review.openstack.org/56951522:44
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jbryceclarkb: can we get a cert for git.airshipit.org ? we talked about it earlier in the week while you were out and i was told you're the keeper of the certs. i can submit gerrit updates to duplicate the git.zuul-ci.org setup23:46
clarkbyup can get one for that name23:47
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clarkbI'm assuming sooner is better than later?23:47
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fungiclarkb: if you're buying certs, grab one for survey.openstack.org while you're at it23:51
clarkbfungi: ok23:52
fungigracias23:52
fungii can stick it in hiera later23:52
jbrycethanks23:52
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clarkbhuh apparently I can't 2x the cert order and have to do them one at a time23:53
clarkbwee23:53
dimslol23:54
dimsso zuul-ci and airshipit this time ..23:54
clarkbjbryce: fungi what email address can I use to confirm this cert?23:56
clarkbdoes it go to the same inbox as the openstack.org one?23:56
fungiclarkb: i'll check whois23:56
jbrycehostmaster@o.o23:56
jbryceshould work i believe23:56
fungiagreed, whois lists hostmaster@openstack.org as a contact23:57
clarkbok I'll give that a shot23:57
funginamecheap will let you do that, no problem23:57
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fungiit'll show up in the drop-down they give you23:57
clarkboh ya it does show up as an option23:57
clarkbits just mixed in there with a bunch of airshipit options23:58
fungiright, they mix common role addresses @domain and also the registrar's listed contacts23:58

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