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| ianw | hrm, seems the secrets have not populated into the rtd job as i hoped -> http://logs.openstack.org/ee/ee5167a518de07c325f326df212c92e5c1e786a9/post/trigger-readthedocs-webhook/f677f03/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-08-01_00_45_29_442009 | 00:53 |
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| tom-shan | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581407/ Can I get some reviews about this change? | 01:00 |
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| roman_g | ianw: please, highlight me when RTD would start working. | 01:34 |
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| * roman_g has not seen spam in IRC for may be a decade | 01:34 | |
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| ianw | roman_g: yeah, not quite :) i think i forgot to extract the vars out of the secret | 01:35 |
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| kmalloc | so much spam. =/ | 02:14 |
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| damonl | @here, Does anyone know if VMware CI has ability on vote +1/-1 for nova project? | 03:54 |
| damonl | Our zuul pipelines is configured with check-vote. But I didn't find one patch with VMware CI+1/-1. | 03:55 |
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| Ugrastil | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ | 04:09 |
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| scas | infra-root: channel mode +r helps with this... this. | 04:18 |
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| ianw | scas: yes, we've usually not wanted that for accessibility but it's all a trade off (not very accessible being flooded with this either). seems many channels that redirect non registered users to another channel may be an option if this persists | 04:25 |
| scas | understood. certain times call for certain measures, even if temporary | 04:26 |
| scas | i'm not a fan of restricting access, as i sometimes have to go even farther on a network i run. for a time, i had the cyrillic bots every few minutes | 04:29 |
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| cooldude9 | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ | 04:43 |
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| scas | case in point :/ | 04:45 |
| scas | the schoolyard drama is leaking into pretty much anywhere at this point | 04:46 |
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| scas | it's even in my little corner that sits idle unless i'm saying something | 04:48 |
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| letty28 | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ | 04:54 |
| letty28 | I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ | 04:54 |
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| crayon23 | With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ | 04:56 |
| crayon23 | I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ | 04:56 |
| crayon23 | Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate | 04:56 |
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| ianw | #status log +r (registered users only) has been temporarily set on #openstack-infra due to incoming spam. this will be re-evaluated in a few hours | 04:58 |
| openstackstatus | ianw: finished logging | 04:58 |
| ianw | infra-root: ^ please re-evaluate this in USA morning time. right now there's little traffic and we're just logging all this crap into our eavesdrop logs | 04:59 |
| scas | i don't have the ability to change channel modes in #openstack-chef, which is getting hit pretty hard, too | 05:00 |
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| scas | it was never reassigned to me, and that individual is fairly far removed from openstack | 05:02 |
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| ianw | scas: there's no chanserv in openstack-chef? | 05:04 |
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| scas | appears not. it used to be there | 05:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-dev/pbr master: tox: Re-add cover target https://review.openstack.org/583918 | 05:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add note on making channels registered https://review.openstack.org/587693 | 05:58 |
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| prometheanfire | mind setting the flag in -requirements? | 06:00 |
| prometheanfire | don't think I can do it myself | 06:00 |
| ianw | prometheanfire: done | 06:01 |
| prometheanfire | ty | 06:02 |
| prometheanfire | feel free to remove it once the spam is done, all those reporting stuff in the channel tend to be registered | 06:02 |
| ianw | yeah, i guess the question is when is the spam done :) | 06:04 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 06:04 |
| ianw | i'm wondering if we just +r everything a forward unregistered to a catchall channel, and help people get registered | 06:04 |
| prometheanfire | sgtm | 06:05 |
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| prometheanfire | ianw: | 06:40 |
| prometheanfire | 01:39 < wraeth > fyi you can use '+qz $~a' instead - applies +q to anyone not identified to services, but instead of just 'can't send to channel', messages can be seen by anyone with +o | 06:40 |
| prometheanfire | 01:39 < wraeth > might be useful for -comrel | 06:40 |
| prometheanfire | that was in our infra channel | 06:41 |
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| dmellado | Hi folks, same spam on my channel | 06:51 |
| dmellado | #openstack-kuryr | 06:51 |
| dmellado | ianw: could you either make me op or kick off those folks? xD | 06:51 |
| dmellado | "Theking^15>I thought you guys might be interested..." and bs | 06:51 |
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| ianw | dmellado: i can set +r for now, and keep a note of it | 07:15 |
| dmellado | ianw, please | 07:15 |
| ianw | prometheanfire: hrm, interesting. i don't think we have anyone monitoring as operators though cause ChanServ? | 07:16 |
| prometheanfire | yep, don't think so either, but it's an option | 07:17 |
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| Ng | I can't set +r on #tripleo because it's modelocked | 07:38 |
| Ng | or at least I lack the chanserv-fu to know how to override the mlock | 07:38 |
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| ianw | Ng: it needs an admin, i can set it for you | 07:41 |
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| icey | ianw can you work your magic on #openstack-charms as well? | 07:49 |
| ianw | icey: yep | 07:50 |
| icey | thanks ianw | 07:50 |
| Ng | ianw++ | 07:52 |
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| jiapei | Hi, I'm using nodepool 0.5.0 to setup CI, but when nodepool try to spawn VMs in the openstack cloud, it fails on SSH, http://paste.openstack.org/show/727042/, can anyone help me? | 07:58 |
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| evrardjp | ianw: can you work your magic on #openstack-ansible? | 08:04 |
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| evrardjp | I am interested to see the attendence drop | 08:05 |
| tosky | ianw: also, is it worth to invite Sygin to all the channels? It should help globally | 08:09 |
| evrardjp | tosky: I am curious, could you explain? | 08:10 |
| tosky | evrardjp: it's the bot of the freenode admins which is kept up-to-date with specific rules to quickly ban those users | 08:12 |
| tosky | ups, Sigyn | 08:13 |
| tosky | this one: https://github.com/freenode/Sigyn | 08:13 |
| evrardjp | tosky: that is a good idea | 08:15 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, that does perhaps provide us with some measure of management | 08:17 |
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| ttx | Sigyn is not perfect (doesn't prevent spam from appearing before the ban hits) but at least it makes us look like we are doing *something* to fix it | 08:26 |
| ttx | We should still have a longer-term plan | 08:27 |
| evrardjp | ttx: it looks like a low hanging fruit though | 08:27 |
| ttx | totally | 08:28 |
| ttx | The bot was invited on a few channels yesterday, but that expires | 08:28 |
| evrardjp | oh I see | 08:28 |
| tosky | ttx: uh, are you sure? I invited it on other channels (KDE-related) and it seem to be still there | 08:28 |
| ttx | "you could also ask for her presence temporary ( duration varies ), with an /invite Sigyn" in Sigyn docs | 08:29 |
| evrardjp | yeah I was exactly on that line ttx :) | 08:29 |
| tosky | but that's a bit different than usual, did you ask freenode admins? | 08:29 |
| ttx | no | 08:30 |
| evrardjp | I would personally be okay with a 1000 years temporary presence. | 08:30 |
| ttx | Let me try invite on a few channels | 08:31 |
| evrardjp | ttx: cool | 08:31 |
| evrardjp | you can test in #openstack-ansible if you need a playground | 08:31 |
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| ttx | Sent a couple invites... no effect so far, I suspect they need to be reviewed by staff | 08:34 |
| ttx | evrardjp: if that ends up working I'll try to apply the same power to #openstack-ansible :) | 08:35 |
| evrardjp | ttx: yeah it seems they need review of staff | 08:35 |
| evrardjp | I will join #freenode-sigyn to see | 08:35 |
| ttx | I suspect they are pretty slammed with requests | 08:36 |
| ttx | It's always the same messages... I wonder if we could not craft a config that successfully ignores those | 08:40 |
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| cgoncalves | hi. probably makes more sense to ask here than in -qa channel :) | 10:03 |
| cgoncalves | does anyone have an idea why I'm getting "It looks like a path. File '/home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin' does not exist."? the only diff is that the job overrides nodeset from parent job to devstack-single-node-centos-7 | 10:04 |
| cgoncalves | http://logs.openstack.org/14/587414/2/check/octavia-v2-dsvm-scenario-centos.7/ae0cf08/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-07-31_22_09_05_659322 | 10:04 |
| slaweq | frickler: hi | 10:15 |
| slaweq | frickler: can You help me with one thing? | 10:15 |
| slaweq | frickler: I wonder why on neutron-failure-rate dashboard in grafana we have some "gaps" from time to time | 10:15 |
| slaweq | see http://grafana.openstack.org/d/Hj5IHcSmz/neutron-failure-rate?orgId=1 | 10:16 |
| ianw | slaweq: i'd look at the "nullPointMode:" setting in the graph | 10:20 |
| ianw | yoou probably want connected? | 10:20 |
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| slaweq | ianw: what is default for nullPointMode? | 10:26 |
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| slaweq | ianw: ok, it's set to "null" in our graphs | 10:27 |
| slaweq | so if I would change it to "connected" I would have "line" connecting point before and after gap, right? | 10:27 |
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| ianw | slaweq: yes | 10:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add note on making channels registered https://review.openstack.org/587693 | 10:29 |
| slaweq | ianw: but it is "cosmetic" change for me, I would like to know why there are those gaps there :) | 10:31 |
| slaweq | do You have any idea maybe? | 10:32 |
| ianw | slaweq: they were probably always there, but i think something might have happened to change it when we upgraded grafana | 10:32 |
| slaweq | is it something that we can improve somehow, or it's related to some issues in infra with collecting data? | 10:32 |
| ianw | no, i haven't looked but if the data only comes in periodically, well that's what it is .. you get null values | 10:33 |
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| slaweq | ok, so looks like it's just like that and that's all | 10:36 |
| slaweq | other dashboards have also such gaps | 10:36 |
| slaweq | ianw: thx | 10:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: trigger-readthedocs: Move secret bits into a dict https://review.openstack.org/587767 | 10:42 |
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| sambetts|afk | Hey Infra, someone seems to be spamming the openstack-ironic channel, can someone step in a block/ban/ignore them? | 10:43 |
| sambetts|afk | s/a/and/ | 10:43 |
| roman_g | if you are using irssi as IRC client, then something like this would probably help: /ignore -regexp -pattern (williampitcock|bryanostergaard) -time 604800 * ACTIONS | 10:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: add-fileserver: fileserver_leading_path isn't from the secret https://review.openstack.org/587768 | 10:44 |
| sambetts|afk | can we only block them clientside? | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Sorin Sbarnea proposed openstack-infra/os-loganalyze master: Support ANSI coloring in logs https://review.openstack.org/563947 | 10:45 |
| roman_g | command /silence works on server side, but I'm not sure if it works on Freenode. | 10:45 |
| ianw | sambetts|afk: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/132692.html we can set +r on channels ATM | 10:45 |
| roman_g | and /silence requires nick name or nick/host pattern | 10:46 |
| sambetts|afk | ah ok... I thought we normally had bots automated kick users from channels after detecting a specfic message | 10:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: readthedocs secret : remove prefix https://review.openstack.org/587771 | 10:52 |
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| slaweq | ianw: hi again | 11:02 |
| slaweq | ianw: can You help me with one more thing? | 11:03 |
| slaweq | ianw: I recently noticed that in some tests we have insane time of instance booting, like e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/53/586253/1/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/ec36ec6/testr_results.html.gz | 11:03 |
| slaweq | and that cause failures of tests as SSH to instance is not available within some time | 11:03 |
| slaweq | I found that we have in each job configured "virt_type=qemu" | 11:04 |
| slaweq | do You know why it's not set to "kvm"? some cloud providers doesn't support nested virtualization? | 11:04 |
| slaweq | or maybe we can change it at least in jobs where we are using Ubuntu image for tests? | 11:04 |
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| ianw | slaweq: i feel like clarkb might have looked into this most recently. not all providers support nested virt | 11:09 |
| slaweq | ok, thx | 11:09 |
| slaweq | one more question, can we maybe somehow limit some jobs to be run on providers with nested virt? | 11:10 |
| slaweq | and then change this virt_type in such jobs? | 11:10 |
| slaweq | I think that it might help us to improve stability of our jobs :) | 11:10 |
| ianw | in a word, no | 11:11 |
| ianw | but enabling it where possible ... maybe. though that might have concerns around test repeatability | 11:11 |
| slaweq | ianw: so You are saying that enable it if it is supported on node could be possible maybe, right? | 11:15 |
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| slaweq | that could maybe lower number of such timeouts in tests at least | 11:15 |
| ianw | slaweq: i feel like maybe clarkb looked into that. i may also be completely wrong and misremembering :) | 11:16 |
| slaweq | ok, thx ianw for all Your help | 11:16 |
| slaweq | I will then ask clarkb if he was checking that maybe | 11:16 |
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| AJaeger | infra-root, could you help with the spam on #openstack-doc as well, please? I suggest to give pkovar as PTL also channel permissions. | 11:43 |
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| jroll | we would also like +r on #openstack-ironic, please. thanks :) | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add AJaeger to IRC operator list https://review.openstack.org/587790 | 11:58 |
| AJaeger | infra-root, please consider also ^ | 12:00 |
| evrardjp | Also +r on #openstack-ansible, please :) | 12:00 |
| evrardjp | and hello to those ppl I haven't said hello today \o/ | 12:01 |
| mordred | ianw: how do I set +r places? | 12:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Cleanup IRC access https://review.openstack.org/585804 | 12:10 |
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| scas | the #openstack-chef eavesdrop logs are still being polluted. i checked the access list and it has a bunch of folks that are long, long gone from openstack | 12:14 |
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| jroll | mordred: /msg chanserv set #openstack-ironic mlock +r | 12:18 |
| jroll | I believe. cannot confirm as I don't have the proper access :) | 12:18 |
| tosky | ttx: so... any news from freenode? Can we just set every channel to +r ? | 12:18 |
| evrardjp | jroll: for president1 | 12:18 |
| evrardjp | !* | 12:18 |
| openstack | evrardjp: Error: "*" is not a valid command. | 12:18 |
| jroll | mordred: ah yes, confirmed in a channel I own | 12:19 |
| dtantsur | openstack-outreachy suffers quite a lot from spam. may reflect not quite well on us.. | 12:20 |
| ttx | tosky: at this point I would support that, maybe keeping #openstack out | 12:21 |
| AJaeger | scas: 585804 just merged, we updated the access list | 12:21 |
| ttx | but probably better if scripted and approved by infra-root | 12:22 |
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| scas | i like openness, though #openstack-chef is far from active amongst new contributors. it's usually a running log of the things i'm working on | 12:24 |
| scas | appreciate the access list being cleaned up. is it possible to +r this one? the bots have been spamming it all night long | 12:25 |
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| scas | the bots are very much active there. one rolled through a few minutes ago | 12:26 |
| tosky | ttx: given that only infra-root has op access to the channels, well, that's the only way | 12:35 |
| tosky | ttx: maybe you should consider creating a freenode group instead of listing all individual person in the access list of each channel | 12:36 |
| mordred | scas, jroll: done | 12:37 |
| jroll | thanks mordred | 12:37 |
| scas | mordred: much thanks | 12:37 |
| * scas goes back to counterpointing slack :x | 12:38 | |
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| mnaser | mordred: found it | 13:03 |
| mnaser | +F = "Allow operators in other channels to forward clients to this channel, without requiring ops in the target channel." | 13:03 |
| mnaser | +f = Takes a channel name as a parameter. Users who cannot join the channel (because of +i, +j, +r, see below) are instead sent to the given channel. Clients are notified when the forward takes effect. An operator can set mode +f #channel2 only if they are an op in #channel2 or if #channel2 has mode +F set (see below). | 13:03 |
| fungi | note that +F is a denial of service waiting to happen. attackers find largeish channels with open ops or to which they can easily get ops access and then forward them at the +F enabled channel | 13:04 |
| mnaser | ah | 13:05 |
| fungi | i went through a while back and scrubbed stray +F from any of our official channels which had it (thankfully there were only a handful i found) | 13:05 |
| mnaser | so maybe we don't use +F but stay opped in #openstack-unregistered in order to be able to do +f #openstack-unregistered | 13:06 |
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| mordred | mnaser: yeah. and also set an entrymsg on #openstack-unregistered explaining what's up | 13:07 |
| mnaser | i can do that, shouldn't be more than a few minutes (and only for channels we set +r to) .. if infra is in agreement | 13:08 |
| mnaser | and if someone else wants to do it even better :> | 13:08 |
| mordred | mnaser: I can help - and I thinkn it's a good idea as long as we've got these +r flags set - otherwise we're going to have a non-zero number of confused users who won't be able to ask questions | 13:09 |
| mnaser | yeah absolutely | 13:09 |
| mordred | mnaser: I joined #openstack-unregistered - am settig up chanserv for it now | 13:10 |
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| mordred | mnaser, infra-root: how does this look for an entrymsg for #openstack-unregistered: | 13:15 |
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| mordred | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/1GkLQWtmUc | 13:15 |
| mnaser | mordred: lgtm | 13:17 |
| scas | +1 | 13:17 |
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| mnaser | can someone try that out? | 13:18 |
| mnaser | (aka logout of services and try and rejoin #openstack-infra) | 13:19 |
| scas | done | 13:20 |
| mnaser | thank you scas | 13:20 |
| mordred | ok. I set the entrymsg | 13:20 |
| mnaser | mordred, infra-root: shall i go over all channels we +r and add +f #openstack-unregistered ? | 13:20 |
| mordred | mnaser: yeah - I think so | 13:21 |
| evrardjp | that's not a bad idea | 13:21 |
| mordred | mnaser: +r isn't super awesome - but hopefully the +f will lessen the impact a little | 13:22 |
| evrardjp | yeah | 13:22 |
| scas | worst case scenario, looking into running openstack irc servers might be a possibility, so everything can be twiddled and tuned | 13:22 |
| mnaser | yeah and i'm assuming people can ping us in there | 13:22 |
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| evrardjp | mordred: a general message on the lists should maybe be done? | 13:22 |
| scas | i like the idea of matrix, but i haven't kicked the tires | 13:22 |
| evrardjp | scas: matrix is just fine : ) | 13:22 |
| evrardjp | to be honest, IRC works, no need to change, right? | 13:23 |
| scas | irc works, but it is a shifting ecosystem | 13:23 |
| evrardjp | that's a conversation I will not enter : ) | 13:23 |
| scas | :) | 13:23 |
| scas | i'm not saying anything as to the efficacy of the technology, merely the changes at work behind the scenes | 13:23 |
| evrardjp | mordred: if you're still busy doing the +r could you add #loci ? SamYaple is ok with that | 13:24 |
| evrardjp | or any other infra-root ^ | 13:24 |
| SamYaple | ++ | 13:24 |
| mnaser | evrardjp: #loci or #openstack-loci | 13:25 |
| SamYaple | channel is #openstack-loci | 13:25 |
| mnaser | ah ok | 13:25 |
| mnaser | done | 13:25 |
| evrardjp | my bad | 13:25 |
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| SamYaple | thanks! | 13:25 |
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| scas | strip away the drama leaking into our everything, irc works just fine | 13:26 |
| fungi | mordred: didn't we add a feature to enforce arbitrary channel flags with accessbot back during the previous spam wave? | 13:26 |
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| tbarron | spam relief request for #openstack-manila pls | 13:33 |
| mnaser | tbarron: done | 13:34 |
| tbarron | mnaser: ty | 13:34 |
| scas | i have a small kubernetes cluster on my desk (i know...) so i've started kicking the tires on matrix | 13:35 |
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| mordred | fungi: I think so? | 13:46 |
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| mordred | fungi: looks like we have global user mode support - but I dont see anything in the current config file that lists channel mode flags | 13:50 |
| fungi | ahh, okay. we had talked about using mlock to set +r across all channels but maybe that wasn't implemented | 13:51 |
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| mordred | fungi: it's possible it is implemented and just doesn't have any config file entries | 13:51 |
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| tdasilva | hi, can someone enable +r restriction in #openstack-swift ? | 13:55 |
| efried | Howdy folks, ditto #openstack-powervm ^ please | 13:55 |
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| mordred | tdasilva, efried done | 13:58 |
| efried | Thanks mordred | 13:58 |
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| tdasilva | mordred: thanks! | 13:58 |
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| witek | hello, could you please enable +r for #openstack-meeting-3 and #openstack-monasca? | 14:23 |
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| smcginnis | #openstack-stable is still getting junk too | 14:26 |
| sdake | why hello there | 14:30 |
| mordred | witek, smcginnis: done | 14:30 |
| sdake | anyone know how to set the +r mode properly for channels - been getting some requests from projects I kicked off | 14:30 |
| mordred | sdake: yes we have been setting that for people this morning - what channels? | 14:31 |
| sdake | #heat, #openstack-kolla plz | 14:31 |
| sdake | I have ops on both channels | 14:31 |
| sdake | just don't know the magic incantation to enable +r | 14:31 |
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| mordred | sdake: done for both | 14:32 |
| mordred | sdake: fwiw the magical incantation is: | 14:32 |
| corvus | mordred, fungi: we have a fairly substantial plan to make it easier to handle global irc changes. we wrote up a spec and improved it. i started working on it and was completely stymied by the fact that we are unable to launch new machines. | 14:32 |
| witek | mordred: thanks | 14:32 |
| mordred | sdake: /msg chanserv set #heat mlock +f #openstack-unregistered | 14:32 |
| corvus | mordred, fungi: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/irc.html | 14:32 |
| mordred | sdake: /msg chanserv set #heat +r | 14:32 |
| sdake | thanks - I'm sure I would have messed that up if I had not done the mlock :) | 14:32 |
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| mordred | corvus: yah - well, I successfully launched a new machine yesterday - so maybe we can circle back around to that | 14:33 |
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| sdake | mordred, at some point it may make sense to clean up the list of people with superpowers on those two channels | 14:34 |
| sdake | openstack-kolla for example has a bunch of people that are no longer with the project or with openstack | 14:34 |
| sdake | i think the same for heat | 14:34 |
| corvus | mordred: i was stymied by the fact that bionic only had puppet5, and we couldn't run puppet5. the repos where we normally get puppet3 or puppet4 didn't support bionic. | 14:34 |
| mordred | corvus: totally. seems like a job for not-puppet (I'm not quite there with the first not-puppet server - totally forgot the sudoers file yesterday :) ) | 14:35 |
| mordred | that was going to be the first thing I finished this morning - but haven't quite gotten to that yet | 14:36 |
| corvus | mordred: are we ready to start working on running something (limnoria?) in a container? | 14:36 |
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| mordred | corvus: yeah - or, at least, I expect us to be in that position by end of today or tomorrow | 14:37 |
| corvus | mordred: cool. something i can help with? | 14:37 |
| corvus | i believe i volunteered to help with basic server setup after you set up the initial framework. :) if you want to throw "configure exim" or something at me, maybe i can run with that now? | 14:38 |
| mordred | corvus: I was going to say "I think I'm ok for now" - but "configure exim" is a great task to delegate your way | 14:39 |
| mordred | corvus: my main focus atm is getting bootstapped enough that we can iterate further with the ansibles | 14:39 |
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| corvus | mordred: okay, i'll start on that | 14:40 |
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| mordred | corvus: I've just been shoving roles in playbooks/roles in system-config | 14:41 |
| clarkb | to be clear we can launch new machines, I think fungi has puppeg working on bionic too? | 14:41 |
| zxiiro | can we get #openstack-jjb setup with this too? I don't have powers to mlock :( | 14:41 |
| corvus | mordred: cool, thx. i'll see if there's an existing exim role that does what we need, and if not, add a new one there. if we depend on external roles, how do we install them? | 14:42 |
| mordred | zxiiro: done | 14:42 |
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| corvus | clarkb: oh? i tried and failed. | 14:42 |
| clarkb | corvus: I think fungi found a way to run puppet 4 on bionic | 14:42 |
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| zxiiro | thanks | 14:43 |
| mordred | corvus: roles.yaml | 14:43 |
| clarkb | and cmurphy's puppet 4 support is far enough along to support that | 14:43 |
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| slaweq | clarkb: hi | 14:43 |
| corvus | clarkb: i see no bionic tags in site.pp | 14:43 |
| slaweq | clarkb: recently I found that some of Neutron jobs are sometimes failing because of very long time of instance booting | 14:44 |
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| clarkb | corvus: so far its only been used on the test mailman 3 server aiui | 14:44 |
| slaweq | clarkb: I found that there is virt_type=qemu used everywhere | 14:44 |
| slaweq | clarkb: do You know if there is any chance to switch it to kvm at least for some jobs or on nodes which supports nested virt? | 14:44 |
| tosky | talking with people around, can you please enable the +r flag also on #oooq ? | 14:45 |
| tosky | it was co-founded by openstackinfra | 14:45 |
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| tosky | or should I just a add a line to the etherpad? | 14:45 |
| mordred | tosky: done | 14:46 |
| zxiiro | mordred: I think we need MLOCK +r too right? | 14:46 |
| corvus | clarkb: i don't see any changes in system-config about supporting puppet4 on bionic. where can i find more info? | 14:46 |
| clarkb | slaweq: there are a couple issues here. The first is not all clouds support nested virt. The other is the clouds that "support" it that support is spotty and you just trade one debuggable failure for one undebuggable "VMs crashed" and we dont know why problem | 14:46 |
| clarkb | corvus: fungi would need to catch me/us up | 14:46 |
| tosky | mordred: thanks | 14:47 |
| mordred | zxiiro: yes. whoops. mistyped yours | 14:47 |
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| mordred | zxiiro: fixed | 14:47 |
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| zxiiro | great thanks! | 14:47 |
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| corvus | clarkb: okay. until fungi comes along, i'm going to assume we're in the same quandry as before and work on the ansible stuff. | 14:48 |
| clarkb | slaweq: this has gotten better and johnsom likely has real data on fail rates. In my own testing the ubuntu xenial kernel seems to be fairly reliable with nested virt but fedora 28 and bionic kernels are about 50/50 chance of crashing | 14:48 |
| slaweq | for us it hits us sometimes in tests where we are using ubuntu 1604 image on guest VMs | 14:49 |
| mordred | corvus: fwiw, launch-node-ansible.py in my system-config patch works for bionic nodes (and defaults to them on rax) - and leaves you with a functional node except for sudoers ... in case that's useful to you | 14:49 |
| slaweq | we are not using Fedora and Bionic images in tests (at least for now) | 14:49 |
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| clarkb | slaweq: correct plan is to move to bionic as soon as rocky release is done | 14:50 |
| corvus | mordred: that is useful, i was just about to use that. i can log in as root and fix sudoers manually, i'm assuming. | 14:50 |
| mordred | corvus: although fwiw I have only used it from python3 and with an ansible installed with python3 - so it might not be happy in other scenarios | 14:50 |
| mordred | corvus: yah | 14:50 |
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| smcginnis | Hmm, somehow they are back in #openstack-cinder | 14:51 |
| slaweq | clarkb: ok, thx for explanation then. I now at least know why it's like that :) | 14:51 |
| eumel8 | hello, is this the issuing office to get +r mode? | 14:51 |
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| fungi | clarkb: i think puppet only "sorta works" on bionic based on cmurphy's interpretation of the messages in the syslog on that machine | 14:51 |
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| corvus | mordred: should we do the r/mlock thing for all channels listed in accessbot? | 14:51 |
| mordred | smcginnis: fixed | 14:51 |
| fungi | though it can probably be made to work | 14:52 |
| mordred | corvus: yeah - at this point I think that would be nice | 14:52 |
| fungi | it basically amounted to running the puppetlabs puppet 4 packages for xenial on bionic | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | mordred: Thanks! | 14:52 |
| clarkb | slaweq: I think if we had a known group of individuals tracking down these issues and actively working to fix them when new kernel happens and breaks it we could consider turning it on more broadly, but we have a hard enough time keeping up with pip library pushed a broken release | 14:52 |
| fungi | granted, this was also just for our base server class really. nothing fancy | 14:52 |
| mordred | corvus: it's mlock +f #openstack-unregistered and mlock +r ... is there a 'good' way to do that? | 14:52 |
| fungi | my notes at this point are at the top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mm3poc | 14:53 |
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| corvus | mordred: no, i'd probably emacs out a bunch of commands and paste them bit by bit... maybe i can write a script which logs in as accessbot and does it? | 14:54 |
| corvus | mordred: how about i do that? | 14:54 |
| kmalloc | mordred: if possible openstack-keystone would also like +f +r [I don't have access to do that] | 14:54 |
| kmalloc | corvus: ^ cc. i know you're working on it :)( | 14:54 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ cc | 14:55 |
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| slaweq | clarkb: sure, that's not so big issue for us that it has to be done now :) | 14:56 |
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| slaweq | clarkb: I will get back to this in some time maybe :) | 14:56 |
| slaweq | clarkb: thx a lot for help | 14:56 |
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| clarkb | slaweq: we also likely need people on the cloud side involved (thankfully logan- mnaser and dpawlik have recently been very involved and helping with things like this) | 14:57 |
| fungi | corvus: clarkb: mordred: getting puppet 4 "mostly working" on bionic was mostly just so that i could launch a server to test the ubuntu bionic packages for mailman3, it was far from being an in-depth analysis | 14:58 |
| mnaser | fyi in order to do 1 command instead of 2 | 14:58 |
| mnaser | set #chan mlock +rf #openstack-unregistered | 14:59 |
| fungi | and even then, i ended up using launch-server.py to launch a xenial server followed by doing an in-place upgrade to bionic | 14:59 |
| mnaser | lbragstad: done | 14:59 |
| clarkb | fungi: we would have to update install_puppet.sh to do the xenail package install of 4 on bionic if we wanted to use that as the workaround | 14:59 |
| lbragstad | thanks mnaser | 15:00 |
| mordred | mnaser: oh awesome. that's nicer than what I've been doing | 15:00 |
| slaweq | clarkb: I can keep pushing dpawlik with this if it's necessary in OVH cloud :) | 15:00 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, and also i think our /etc/puppet.conf or whatever would need some modifications (at least that was my takeaway from cmurphy's comments on the errors i'm seeing logged) | 15:01 |
| spotz | Hey guys, can I get +r on #openstack-women and #openstack-diversity please | 15:01 |
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| mnaser | spotz: done | 15:01 |
| spotz | gang... thanks mnaser | 15:01 |
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| mnaser | i think at this point we should just do it to all channels | 15:01 |
| corvus | mnaser: working on it | 15:01 |
| mnaser | corvus: thank you :) | 15:02 |
| clarkb | slaweq: I think the initial issue was sorted out and now xenial kernels are reliable on ovh. I think next steps would be checking newer kernels as well (I've only tested them on vexxhost so far) | 15:02 |
| kmalloc | corvus: thanks! | 15:02 |
| slaweq | clarkb: ok, thx | 15:02 |
| mnaser | mordred: on a super unrelated note (and maybe other infras), does anyone know if ansible has a helper method that we can use to compare dicts in ansible modules | 15:03 |
| mnaser | i feel like this is something that is pretty common and there has to be some helper rather than each person implementing it | 15:03 |
| mnaser | ex: pull data from api, get data from module, compare and know if we need to send an update | 15:03 |
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| corvus | mnaser: http://paste.openstack.org/show/727068/ | 15:05 |
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| corvus | mnaser: the commands should look like that, right? | 15:05 |
| * mnaser clicks | 15:05 | |
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| mnaser | corvus: looks good to me. that's what i have been sending to chanserv | 15:05 |
| corvus | (sent via privmsg to chanserv) | 15:05 |
| corvus | mnaser: cool. i will go have a long chat with chanserv now. biab. | 15:05 |
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| mnaser | hopefully you don't end up booted off :P | 15:06 |
| mnaser | oh it might not let you corvus | 15:06 |
| corvus | oh right, i have to be op | 15:06 |
| mnaser | let me op | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | Hi dear infra team. requesting +r for the #openstack-neutron channel, please | 15:06 |
| mnaser | you should be able to go through | 15:06 |
| anteaya | mlavalle, add the request to the etherpad if you like: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freenode-plus-r-08-2018 | 15:07 |
| clarkb | mlavalle: we are going to apply it to all channels shortly (thank you corvus) you should see it soon | 15:07 |
| anteaya | clarkb, ah cool | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | clarkb: thanks! | 15:07 |
| clarkb | * all channels managed by accessbot | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | mlavalle, nice to see you | 15:07 |
| tosky | mordred: apparently #oooq has not the magic flag yet | 15:08 |
| mnaser | all channels should get magic flag shortly | 15:08 |
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| johnsom | clarkb slaweq After the kernel fix for the last KVM crash we have switched back to using KVM on all jobs that have hosts with nested virt enabled. Haven't seen a failure since, much like the year and half before the kernel bug. | 15:11 |
| clarkb | johnsom: nice, and that is all running on xenial right? if you are up to it adding a non voting check job that can canary for bionic would probably be helpful | 15:12 |
| johnsom | clarkb Already have it | 15:12 |
| clarkb | johnsom: have you had trouble with that? we've definitely had trouble over in kata land with fedora and ubuntu's newer kernels | 15:12 |
| johnsom | clarkb Bionic guest that is. Not yet node host | 15:12 |
| clarkb | seems like about half of the jobs crash there in some way (we think due to nested virt and newer kernel) | 15:12 |
| johnsom | No, we haven't had a problem | 15:13 |
| slaweq | johnsom: so we can enable nested virt per job on nodes which supports it, am I understand it correctly? | 15:14 |
| clarkb | johnsom: oh this is for the node host, the VM in the middle | 15:14 |
| clarkb | johnsom: that is the canary I think we want to add | 15:14 |
| corvus | tosky: oooq is not registered with accessbot. can you add it? https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html#accessbot | 15:14 |
| slaweq | johnsom: and it should works fine then, right? | 15:14 |
| johnsom | clarkb Yeah, we haven't switched it over to using bionic hypervisor yet. | 15:14 |
| clarkb | johnsom: would you be willing to add a canary job for that? just non voting that we can start to collect data on | 15:15 |
| clarkb | johnsom: helpful since you have the xenial stuff running too to compare against | 15:15 |
| johnsom | slaweq https://github.com/openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin/blob/master/playbooks/Octavia-DSVM/pre.yaml | 15:15 |
| corvus | infra-root: all channels registered with accessbot have had "mlock +rf #openstack-unregistered" set | 15:15 |
| fungi | thanks corvus! | 15:15 |
| clarkb | corvus: probably worth a #status log? and thank you! | 15:15 |
| corvus | i'm drafting a notice | 15:15 |
| clarkb | corvus: ++ | 15:15 |
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| tosky | corvus: I'm not an owner, but given that it was co-founded by openstackinfra, probably yes, but let me ping one person | 15:15 |
| tosky | panda|rover, weshay, rlandy : see corvus' question above | 15:16 |
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| corvus | tosky: if openstackinfra already has access, then we just need it added to that file: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/accessbot/channels.yaml | 15:16 |
| slaweq | johnsom: thx a lot :) | 15:16 |
| johnsom | clarkb Yes, we can do that. We are having an odd zuul issue with using centos node host maybe you would have a thought: http://logs.openstack.org/14/587414/2/check/octavia-v2-dsvm-scenario-centos.7/ae0cf08/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-07-31_22_09_05_659322 | 15:16 |
| johnsom | slaweq It takes 50+ minutes off the test run time | 15:16 |
| clarkb | johnsom: slaweq I wouldn't expect that large a time savings with cirros fwiw | 15:17 |
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| slaweq | clarkb: yes, but I want to do it in jobs which uses Ubuntu as image to run vms, not cirros | 15:17 |
| clarkb | johnsom: I think you need to add your tempest plugin as a required-project on the job so that zuul will make sure the repo is cloned at that path for you | 15:17 |
| slaweq | so that can speed tests a bit :) | 15:17 |
| clarkb | slaweq: what jobs are doing that? | 15:17 |
| johnsom | clarkb Yeah, cirros does improve, but it's not the big bang you get with a full ubuntu guest | 15:17 |
| slaweq | clarkb: neutron scenario jobs, like: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/7681a5cf5769211dc355e2bf8cd7499795f6de22/.zuul.yaml#L70 | 15:18 |
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| slaweq | clarkb: basically for some jobs we need "advanced" image instead of cirros and then we have this ubuntu | 15:18 |
| slaweq | and sometimes it takes like 700 seconds until SSH is available :/ | 15:19 |
| johnsom | clarkb Yes, we do that here: https://github.com/openstack/octavia-tempest-plugin/blob/master/zuul.d/jobs.yaml#L7 The only change that switches this from a passing gate to not passing is setting "nodeset: devstack-single-node-centos-7" | 15:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Cleanup TripleO ansible role jobs https://review.openstack.org/587847 | 15:20 |
| johnsom | slaweq Yes, at heavy use times we have seen it take 20 minutes to boot an ubuntu VM that boots in 30 seconds with nested virt. | 15:20 |
| weshay | tosky, corvus k.. will get a review out there | 15:20 |
| weshay | thanks | 15:20 |
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| slaweq | johnsom: LOL, that's a lot :) | 15:20 |
| johnsom | slaweq What project are you working on? Curious to track the nested virt impacted projects. | 15:21 |
| weshay | ssbarnea, see tosky's ping to me above | 15:21 |
| slaweq | johnsom: neutron | 15:21 |
| johnsom | slaweq Ha, ok. Which sub project? | 15:21 |
| clarkb | slaweq: I would be curious to know what tasks require an advanced image for neutron (neutron doesn't need in guest agents/processes like octavia aiui) | 15:21 |
| johnsom | lol, yeah, same | 15:22 |
| corvus | status notice Due to ongoing freenode spam, all OpenStack channels now require authentication with nickserv. If an unauthenticated user joins a channel, they will be forwarded to #openstack-unregistered with a message about the problem and folks to help with any questions (volunteers welcome!). | 15:22 |
| johnsom | Right now I know Octavia, Trove, OpenStack-Ansible, and maybe manila are all impacted | 15:22 |
| mordred | corvus: looks good to me | 15:22 |
| corvus | mnaser, mordred, clarkb, fungi ^ ? | 15:22 |
| mnaser | corvus: lgtm | 15:23 |
| clarkb | corvus: maybe "all OpenStack Infra managed channels" | 15:23 |
| anteaya | all accessbot managed channels? | 15:23 |
| corvus | if it's not managed by accessbot, it's not an openstack channel | 15:23 |
| corvus | and i'm not sure that distinction is important in that message? this is an important one, i'm trying to make every word be effective. | 15:25 |
| slaweq | clarkb: I'm not sure now but I will check that | 15:25 |
| clarkb | corvus: mostly just thinking channels like ara and kata-dev might be confused by that message because people are perpetually confusing openstack the project, the foudnation, and the infrastructure we help people use | 15:25 |
| mordred | I agree with both corvus and clarkb | 15:26 |
| clarkb | corvus: minor concern in any case as the real message is in +r is now set | 15:26 |
| corvus | hrm. openstack-related channels? | 15:26 |
| clarkb | corvus: wfm | 15:27 |
| corvus | status notice Due to ongoing freenode spam, all OpenStack-related channels now require authentication with nickserv. If an unauthenticated user joins a channel, they will be forwarded to #openstack-unregistered with a message about the problem and folks to help with any questions (volunteers welcome!). | 15:27 |
| clarkb | ++ | 15:27 |
| corvus | actually, is the word 'freenode' important? maybe strike that? | 15:27 |
| clarkb | ongoing IRC spam? | 15:27 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:27 |
| corvus | status notice Due to ongoing spam, all OpenStack-related channels now require authentication with nickserv. If an unauthenticated user joins a channel, they will be forwarded to #openstack-unregistered with a message about the problem and folks to help with any questions (volunteers welcome!). | 15:28 |
| mordred | or just spam - I agree, it's a message in irc about ... yeah | 15:28 |
| corvus | okay, i'm sending that in 30s unless someone objects | 15:28 |
| mordred | I support you sending it | 15:28 |
| corvus | #status notice Due to ongoing spam, all OpenStack-related channels now require authentication with nickserv. If an unauthenticated user joins a channel, they will be forwarded to #openstack-unregistered with a message about the problem and folks to help with any questions (volunteers welcome!). | 15:29 |
| corvus | jeez | 15:29 |
| johnsom | clarkb The funny thing about that zuul error, is it is occurring when installing from the directory it says is not there.... Unless I'm totally reading that wrong | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add sudoers file and groups https://review.openstack.org/587854 | 15:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add bridge.openstack.org to trusted ssh list https://review.openstack.org/587855 | 15:30 |
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| clarkb | johnsom: it is in /opt/stack/tempest | 15:31 |
| corvus | statusbot seems to have just hung a couple hours ago. restarting it now. | 15:32 |
| johnsom | clarkb http://logs.openstack.org/14/587414/2/check/octavia-v2-dsvm-scenario-centos.7/ae0cf08/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-07-31_22_09_03_800744 | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual master: Add IRC Nick Registration to Developer Docs https://review.openstack.org/587856 | 15:33 |
| clarkb | johnsom: the inventory file shows that project is required fwiw, the mystery deepens | 15:33 |
| clarkb | johnsom: ya it is trying to install the python package at that directory then responding that directly does not exist | 15:33 |
| johnsom | clarkb Stared at that for 10 minutes.... Really not sure what is up with it. The mystery too is if we take the nodeset for centos off, it passes fine | 15:34 |
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| corvus | i will reply to mordred's ml message | 15:37 |
| AJaeger | infra-root, do we need this manual addition by anteaya ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587856/ - is that permanent? | 15:40 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: I think it's a good idea - we can always remove it from the manual if/when we remove the restriction | 15:41 |
| corvus | AJaeger: i tend to think we may need to live with it long enough to warrant landing the change, yes. and if we back out +r later, we can soften 'required' to 'recommended' | 15:41 |
| corvus | heh, my +2 raced zuul's -1 :( | 15:42 |
| corvus | anteaya: ^ | 15:42 |
| mordred | heh | 15:42 |
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| AJaeger | anteaya: you need to add two ":" to fix RST - otherwise fine | 15:42 |
| anteaya | AJaeger, ah thank you | 15:43 |
| clarkb | johnsom: I wonder if it is a permissions thing, that repo is in /home/zuul and evstack runs as stack user possibly there are different umasks on centos vs ubuntu causing this to fail | 15:44 |
| clarkb | johnsom: fwiw all of the repos in /home/zuul/src are copied to /opt/stack as well iirc and should be owned by stack there | 15:45 |
| clarkb | johnsom: that is my best guess at this point, you might add an ls -l or similar to get file perms out of the job in the logs | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Anita Kuno proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual master: Add IRC Nick Registration to Developer Docs https://review.openstack.org/587856 | 15:45 |
| corvus | #status notice Due to ongoing spam, all OpenStack-related channels now require authentication with nickserv. If an unauthenticated user joins a channel, they will be forwarded to #openstack-unregistered with a message about the problem and folks to help with any questions (volunteers welcome!). | 15:46 |
| openstackstatus | corvus: sending notice | 15:46 |
| johnsom | clarkb Interesting. Do you happen to know which role/playbook injects that path in the requirements file? I will add the ls -al and see what we find, but eventually we will need to change the path that is getting injected into the requirements file. | 15:46 |
| clarkb | johnsom: hrm ansible does log that it thinks that git dir is 777 maybe the home dir isn't though | 15:47 |
| clarkb | johnsom: I think it is part of the base devstack job/playbook/role in devstack repo | 15:47 |
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| johnsom | clarkb Ok, we will poke at this and I'll let you know what we find. | 15:48 |
| johnsom | Thanks for the second set of eyes | 15:48 |
| dansmith | corvus: no discussion on that? | 15:48 |
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| openstackstatus | corvus: finished sending notice | 15:49 |
| mordred | dansmith: it was discussed over the US night and all morning, including a mailing list thread, and then reached the point where the 'have each channel request to have the flag set' process resulted in a steady stream from everyone requesting it be set | 15:52 |
| dansmith | where? | 15:52 |
| clarkb | also freenode admins just sent a wall suggeesting it as well | 15:52 |
| clarkb | dansmith: here and on the openstack-dev mailing list | 15:53 |
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| dansmith | I only saw one project on the ML mention it, I guess I missed it | 15:53 |
| dansmith | seems rather draconian for casual question-askers to avoid a couple pre-snipe messages a day | 15:53 |
| clarkb | dansmith: ianw set up an etherpad to track it that was linked on the mailing list | 15:53 |
| clarkb | dansmith: current rate is about 2 blocks of messages an hour | 15:54 |
| clarkb | (just looking at channels that aren't +r) | 15:54 |
| dansmith | which, with the sniper means two single lines per hour yeah? | 15:54 |
| clarkb | dansmith: no each block is about 4 messages | 15:54 |
| dansmith | the sniper gets them after the first message in our channel | 15:54 |
| mordred | that was not the case broadly | 15:55 |
| fungi | the killbot seems to get them somewhere between 1 and 4 lines into their canned message from what i've been seeing. | 15:55 |
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| dansmith | fungi: huh okay I've never seen it not nuke them on the first message | 15:55 |
| clarkb | ya double checking scrollback in here its 1-4 messages depending on how quickly they get kicked | 15:56 |
| pabelanger | the killbot also need to be in channel, IIRC Sigyn is only in a handful of channels atm for openstack | 15:56 |
| mordred | dansmith: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-sdks/latest.log.html#t2018-08-01T02:39:18 | 15:56 |
| mordred | dansmith: is a good example | 15:56 |
| dansmith | well, it just seems unfortunate, akin to those "I receive too much spam so you have to register with this service to reply to me" sort of things | 15:57 |
| dansmith | openness being not free and all | 15:57 |
| mordred | dansmith: yah. I don't think any of us are happy about it | 15:57 |
| clarkb | christel (christel@freenode/staff/exherbo.christel): : [Global Notice] Hi all, we are aware of the current spambot attacks, and we would encourage users to set themselves +R and channel operators to set +r in the channels while the attack is ongoing. | 15:57 |
| clarkb | is the official word from freenode as of 25 minutes ago | 15:57 |
| dansmith | clarkb: yeah I saw that for my own channels | 15:57 |
| corvus | i'm certainly not happy about it | 15:57 |
| mordred | me either | 15:57 |
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| dansmith | ah yeah I just saw the openstack-ansible thread | 16:03 |
| fungi | looks like it was an average of 4 incidents per hour in #openstack-nova today, the spambot army seems to be finding some channels more quickly than others | 16:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: you don't happen to have the etherpad for the last project renaming in gerrit handy do you? | 16:05 |
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| fungi | clarkb: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-2018-03-23 maybe? | 16:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: that looks right thanks! | 16:06 |
| SpamapS | mordred: if I have something that has a setup.cfg and is easily pip installable, but maybe doesn't use pbr, will pbrx still be ablke to easily make containers out of that? | 16:06 |
| fungi | that looks like the most recent one in my browser history anyway | 16:06 |
| clarkb | hrm looks like we didn't get around to merging the docs update linked at the top there :/ | 16:07 |
| clarkb | I'll start by reviewing that now | 16:07 |
| anteaya | zuul is happy now with 587856/2 | 16:08 |
| mordred | SpamapS: it should be able to, yes | 16:08 |
| mordred | SpamapS: there might be a few features in it that don't 100% work - like the ability to list additional per-container requirements as extras ... | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Any idea how someone can get back after being kicked? | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj started the cinder meeting and got kicked for sending out the ping reminder list. | 16:09 |
| mordred | SpamapS: but I believe supporting non-pbr projects where possible is in scope, so if you have problems, let's work through them | 16:09 |
| fungi | i think it only lasts a few minutes | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Or is there a way I can take over as chair form him? | 16:09 |
| SpamapS | mordred: ACK. I may just push for pbr, since it's pretty damn awesome on its own. ;) | 16:09 |
| fungi | smcginnis: if he didn't set any additional chairs, just have to wait for him to be able to regain his connection/nick | 16:09 |
| mordred | SpamapS: also - I started working on a push command - but it's backburnered while I work on ansible-base-server | 16:10 |
| fungi | smcginnis: or 30 minutes after the meeting was started, anyone in the channel can #endmeeting | 16:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: the two rename changes are https://review.openstack.org/575478 and https://review.openstack.org/585471 I'll be reviewing them shortly against the docs update to make sure they are what we need. Would be great if you could review them too as doc change author | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | fungi: OK, thanks. | 16:10 |
| clarkb | I need tea before I do code review though | 16:10 |
| mordred | SpamapS: (since pbrx figures out the names of the containers it's creating for you, it seems natural that one might also want to be able to 'push all the container images you just made') | 16:10 |
| mordred | SpamapS: oh - actually - I think currently pbrx is just reading the setup.cfg to get the listof console_scripts ... if you're declaring console scripts elsewhere I'm not as sure that'll work | 16:11 |
| mordred | SpamapS: although I'm sur ethat's solvable if it needs to be | 16:11 |
| mordred | SpamapS: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/pbrx/tree/pbrx/container_images.py#n27 is the code in question | 16:12 |
| clarkb | mordred: setuptools setup.cfg doesn't support entrypoints like pbr does fwiw | 16:12 |
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| mordred | yeah- just went to verify that | 16:14 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: there's no code yet. Just some django-focused devs asking for how to conform. | 16:14 |
| mordred | ossum | 16:14 |
| clarkb | they made a thing that is deceptively similar then removed the useful bits and added some incompatibiltiy for fun | 16:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: at least the docs are clear that it's not compatible | 16:14 |
| clarkb | ya | 16:14 |
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| mordred | I mean, I would have loved compat - but if it's not, I do appreciate the docs note | 16:15 |
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| mordred | corvus, clarkb: now that we've got +s - should we uninvite Sigyn from places? | 16:16 |
| clarkb | +r you mean? ya may help make meetings less painful for some :) | 16:18 |
| AJaeger | infra-root, anybody else to +2A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587856/ - to publish the manuals update for +r, please? | 16:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: I did mean +r :) | 16:20 |
| mordred | AJaeger: done | 16:20 |
| AJaeger | thanks, mordred | 16:21 |
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| fungi | clarkb: which docs update was i the author of? | 16:23 |
| clarkb | fungi the one linked to at top of that etherpad | 16:23 |
| clarkb | sorry consuming tea now can get real link in a bit | 16:23 |
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| fungi | no problem, i can find it based on that, thanks! | 16:24 |
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| fungi | for the record, https://review.openstack.org/554261 | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/infra-manual master: Add IRC Nick Registration to Developer Docs https://review.openstack.org/587856 | 16:27 |
| fungi | and yeah, looks like it was basically just removing the need to stop/start zuul, and bypassing ci on the configuration rename change | 16:27 |
| fungi | and cleaned up obsolete references to jjb configuration and the majority of devstack-gate | 16:28 |
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| AJaeger | regarding infra-manual, a few more review requests: https://review.openstack.org/587620 https://review.openstack.org/586549 https://review.openstack.org/570498 | 16:29 |
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| anteaya | thank you | 16:41 |
| AJaeger | anteaya: thanks for writing it so quickly! | 16:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Update Gerrit project renaming for Zuul v3 https://review.openstack.org/554261 | 16:45 |
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| corvus | fun factoids which have come to my attention as the result of the irc conversations: we have 193 channels registered with accessbot, and eavesdrop.openstack.org has 49,585,277 lines of text in its channel log files. | 16:48 |
| scas | which prompted a ml wall-o-text from me | 16:49 |
| scas | ephemeral history is probably not desired | 16:49 |
| corvus | scas: yes, it was your comment on that which prompted me to count the lines :) | 16:49 |
| fungi | i was curious too--thanks! | 16:49 |
| corvus | i routinely refer to history from 6+ months ago. i would not be able to function without it. | 16:50 |
| fungi | same here | 16:50 |
| corvus | that's 50 million things i don't have to keep in my brain :) | 16:50 |
| fungi | heck, in discussing the zuul community formation i was delving into a bunch of irc logs from 2012 | 16:50 |
| fungi | without which i doubt we'd have determined what the first officially public mention of it by that name was (happened during a ci meeting) | 16:51 |
| corvus | i should start announcing in irc where i leave my car keys. | 16:51 |
| clarkb | corvus: ha | 16:52 |
| fungi | zuul was announced so far back in irc we weren't actually recording meeting logs separate from channel logs | 16:52 |
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| fungi | and also i think were were only 2 or 3 meetings a week across openstack at that point (community meeting, ppb meeting, ci meeting?) | 16:53 |
| corvus | fungi: only one of those is still running: the ci meeting. :) | 16:55 |
| corvus | same time, same channel | 16:55 |
| corvus | mordred: will i be able to use your launch-node on puppetmaster, or do i need to use bridge? | 16:59 |
| corvus | bridge, apparently, due to python versions | 17:01 |
| odyssey4me | Hi folks - I just noticed a new 'promote' pipeline in zuul. What's that all about? | 17:02 |
| odyssey4me | Other than the description given on the page of course. | 17:02 |
| corvus | odyssey4me: i haven't finished building any jobs which use it yet, but the idea is that a gate job could upload something to logs.openstack.org and then a promote job could publish that, instead of rebuilding the thing in post. | 17:03 |
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| odyssey4me | corvus: ah, awesome - so there is potential to actually build some sort of artifacts in jobs, then move those over to tarballs.o.o/docs.o.o/<insert storage space here> through some sort of promotion process | 17:05 |
| odyssey4me | I was kinda thinking of doing that with a release pipeline job. | 17:06 |
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| corvus | odyssey4me: yep. the idea of promote is that since it runs on change-merged, it can find the artifact generated by that change and promote it. note, however, that the git repo state in 'gate' doesn't exactly correspond to the git repo state after the change is merged. the content should be the same, but the actual commits are different. so an artifact that must be traceably derived from the | 17:08 |
| corvus | repo isn't a good choice for this -- it should be built in post instead. | 17:08 |
| corvus | odyssey4me: for a simple example: doc builds should be fine in promote (that was going to be my first example). | 17:09 |
| corvus | something that's gpg-signed and should be tracable to a commit hash in the git repo, probably not a good choice | 17:10 |
| corvus | there are ways we can improve that in the future, but they involve changing zuul to push its own commits when gating, rather that having gerrit perform the merge. | 17:10 |
| corvus | (when we do that, the git commit used in the gate build *will* be the one that lands in the git repo) | 17:10 |
| odyssey4me | it'll be interesting to see the use-cases that this is useful for - nice to have a new option, but I guess it'll need some time to figure out how best to use it | 17:11 |
| corvus | yeah, i intend to continue to push on it, but it's dropped to about #4 in my list as of this morning. may be a few weeks before i can get back to it. | 17:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: scas on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585471/3 I guess we don't need to do the zuul project list udpate in that change beacuse this is more similar to a new project rather than renaming an active project? | 17:12 |
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| dansmith | my irc bouncer gets de-authed a lot during netsplits and I come back on a monday to being a GuestXXXX user.. what will happen with the +r change? I assume I'll fail to re-join all my channels and I'll stop logging for however long it takes to notice? | 17:14 |
| clarkb | dansmith: if you don't have it set up to auto indentify as well I would expect that to be the case | 17:15 |
| dansmith | clarkb: it does auto-identify, but it doesn't always do the right thing after a netsplit, | 17:16 |
| clarkb | mordred: what is the story on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555783/ ? is that a project rename we want? it isn't listed on the wiki | 17:16 |
| dansmith | I think because nickserv across the netsplit may drop state and so you look un-authed to the one that wins | 17:16 |
| mordred | clarkb: that project rename already happened | 17:20 |
| fungi | odyssey4me: one of the use cases i keep hearing about is that projects which build images in their jobs want to be able to run tests against and validate those exact images before merging the corresponding change but _then_ make sure that the image which was built and tested is exactly the one which gets published rather than publishing something which is rebuilt after merge and hoping it's identical | 17:20 |
| fungi | to what was rigorously tested | 17:20 |
| corvus | dansmith: can you use sasl authentication? https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl | 17:21 |
| dansmith | corvus: ah, maybe, I didn't know that was a thing | 17:21 |
| corvus | dansmith: i just learned about it today myself :) | 17:22 |
| odyssey4me | fungi: yep, that makes a lot of sense | 17:22 |
| * mordred uses sasl auth | 17:22 | |
| fungi | i don't use a bouncer but i do use sasl auth and freenode faithfully works for me after splits/disconnects. been doing that for... 6 years? | 17:22 |
| dansmith | hmm | 17:22 |
| clarkb | mordred: can you abandon the change then? I think it is not necessary in that case? | 17:22 |
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| fungi | instead of a bouncer i leave a client running in a cloud server 24x7 and detach/attach to the console session its in (via tmux) | 17:22 |
| mordred | clarkb: done | 17:22 |
| dansmith | the split-brain for nickserv would still be affected, but maybe the sasl auth is forced in or something | 17:22 |
| dansmith | I'll see | 17:23 |
| fungi | so if sasl reauth were flaky i'd have witnessed it | 17:23 |
| dansmith | haven't updated my config in like forever | 17:23 |
| dansmith | so, that should be fun | 17:23 |
| fungi | dansmith: if it works the way it does with the services and irc server i run, nickserv checks the sasl auth reported by the server and doesn't require you to ident explicitly | 17:23 |
| dansmith | fungi: yeah that's what I mean..so, okay. | 17:24 |
| fungi | so even if you reconnect when nickserv isn't around, it thinks you're identified when it comes back | 17:24 |
| dansmith | okay | 17:24 |
| corvus | mordred: i'm not seeing any likely cross-platform exim roles with the flexibility we need. the popular ones on galaxy either don't let you define your own config, or are debuntu only. i think i may end up porting our puppet module. | 17:24 |
| mordred | corvus: ++ | 17:25 |
| clarkb | fungi: do you recall what the new ordering proposed at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-2018-03-23 should look like? Specifically I'm not sure how we can safely force merge those changes if puppet is still running on zuul and review.o.o. Particularly on review.o.o as it will just create new projects with the desired names rather than renaming | 17:27 |
| clarkb | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-2018-08-03 is the etherpad I am putting together fwiw | 17:27 |
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| clarkb | corvus: on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-2018-03-23 the suggestion to just /etc/init.d/zuul reload won't work because puppet writes the zuul config with the new projects in it right? | 17:28 |
| clarkb | it would work for the rest of zuul's config which is dynamically loaded though? | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | we might be able to get away with disabling puppet on review.o.o only. Have zuul update to a half broken state then reload zuul once the gerrit renames are done, then reenable puppet for gerrit and it will noop on the "new" projects? | 17:30 |
| corvus | clarkb: i agree with your problem statement | 17:31 |
| clarkb | might also need to disable puppet on the git mirrors as well | 17:31 |
| fungi | clarkb: we still disable puppet, right? | 17:32 |
| * fungi double-checks the directions | 17:32 | |
| clarkb | fungi: yes, but the suggestion is that zuul would be updated by puppet if we just force merged the changes first | 17:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: which isn't possible if we fully disable puppet | 17:32 |
| corvus | clarkb: what if we just reloaded zuul after the renames are done and puppet has placed the new config? | 17:32 |
| clarkb | corvus: after we reenable puppet you mean? that might be simplest actually | 17:33 |
| corvus | yeah | 17:33 |
| fungi | won't puppet do that anyway? | 17:33 |
| corvus | fungi: er, yes :) | 17:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya it should | 17:33 |
| corvus | so, um, "why don't we do nothing?" :) | 17:33 |
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| fungi | we disable puppet, force merge the config change, run the playbook which stops gerrint, performs alterations and starts it up again, then we reenable puppet which reloads zuul config and runs manage-projects | 17:34 |
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| corvus | though, if we *stop* zuul, there might be a problem | 17:35 |
| clarkb | and manage projects for cgit/git mirrors should also noop as well as gerrit right? | 17:35 |
| clarkb | corvus: the problem being that zuul won't start again? | 17:35 |
| clarkb | because those new repos don't exist? but they will exist after the playbook runs I think | 17:35 |
| corvus | we may not be able to start it with bad project names. i believe someone had a patch to minimize that, but i'm unsure of the status | 17:35 |
| fungi | the described process is what i recall we did last time, though there have certainly been a few changes to zuul in the intervening months so no guarantees i suppose | 17:35 |
| clarkb | let me update my etherpad to add a bit of detail to what fungi wrote down above which may help us understand if there are issues with the process | 17:36 |
| fungi | yeah, i think the danger window for zuul is between when we merge the change and when we run the ansible playbook | 17:36 |
| fungi | i suppose if something about the change being forced in crashes the scheduler, we have a fair amount of cleanup to do | 17:37 |
| fungi | so might make sense to still grab a snapshot of the pipeline contents right before that just in case? | 17:37 |
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| fungi | gerrit's still up at that point, so we have the opportunity to force in a revert | 17:38 |
| corvus | https://review.openstack.org/579872 is the change in question | 17:38 |
| clarkb | the other concern is if puppet runs without up to date project config but we can check that propagates before running playbook | 17:38 |
| corvus | it hasn't landed yet, so at the moment, we can't start zuul if its project list is wrong | 17:38 |
| corvus | we may just want to do what we did last time, rather than re-engineering this part | 17:39 |
| corvus | since after 872 merges, we will have more options, and can revisit then | 17:39 |
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| corvus | (so do the manual project-config pull, etc) | 17:39 |
| clarkb | oh right we are work around gerrit replicating world before starting | 17:41 |
| clarkb | in which case merging first would allow replication to complete quicker | 17:41 |
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| clarkb | we might want to reorder for this reason anyway | 17:41 |
| fungi | maybe we want to explicitly wait for the replication complete events before running the playbook | 17:42 |
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| fungi | just to be sure | 17:43 |
| corvus | mordred: i have manually installed emacs25-nox on bridge; we may want to add that to the base playbook stuff | 17:45 |
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| clarkb | corvus: fungi https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-2018-08-03 has been updated to write down what it would look like to force merge prior to restarting gerrit | 17:49 |
| clarkb | corvus: fungi maybe add more info on the zuul considerations if I have got them wrong | 17:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Rename the API-WG to API-SIG https://review.openstack.org/575478 | 17:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove various windmill jobs from projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/587927 | 17:58 |
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| clarkb | corvus: does that process still make you uncomfortable with the zuul restart problem? What sort of situations do we anticipate would require a restart? | 18:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Create base-ozj base job https://review.openstack.org/587165 | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Delete current base-minimal job https://review.openstack.org/587169 | 18:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Reset base-test playbooks https://review.openstack.org/587104 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add base-minimal / base-minimal-test playbooks https://review.openstack.org/587105 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Parent base-test to base-minimal-test https://review.openstack.org/587106 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Parent base to base-minimal https://review.openstack.org/587107 | 18:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Remove base-test now defined in openstack-zuul-jobs https://review.openstack.org/587113 | 18:22 |
| mordred | corvus: emacs-nox metapackage accepable? | 18:25 |
| pabelanger | mordred: corvus: clarkb: do you mind adding https://review.openstack.org/587165/ to your review pipeline, I've proposed a new base jobs called base-ozj, replacing base-minimal, so we can move forward to changes at topic:base-minimal-jobs. I believe it is possible base-ozj will go away once base has moved to ozj, but not 100% just yet | 18:27 |
| fungi | clarkb: i added a 7.1 | 18:32 |
| fungi | (to the rename etherpad) | 18:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: yup, this was an issue we ran into with another unretirement right? | 18:33 |
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| clarkb | thanks for the update | 18:33 |
| fungi | oh, i have a 8.1 as well | 18:33 |
| fungi | or maybe that can be more cleanly done as a 5.1 | 18:35 |
| fungi | i'll check the db schema | 18:35 |
| fungi | aha, yep | 18:36 |
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| fungi | added the sql update query for that project-group rename | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Update SSH key for SotK https://review.openstack.org/587971 | 18:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: run that on storyboard.o.o ? | 18:40 |
| fungi | yep | 18:41 |
| clarkb | oh yp its in the title | 18:41 |
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| clarkb | evrardjp: what ended up being the fix for the pip installation problems? | 18:42 |
| EmilienM | hi infra! can someone explain why no jobs ran on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587654/ ? did we miss something in project-config? (cc jillr) | 18:43 |
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| clarkb | EmilienM: curious | 18:47 |
| clarkb | project would'v ebeen created on the 25th so not a race with Zuul reloading its config I don't think | 18:48 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: 2018-07-31 22:54:35,713 DEBUG zuul.Pipeline.openstack.check: <QueueItem 0x7f76f20ec0b8 for <Change 0x7f76f8d5f5f8 587654,1> in check> is a failing item because ['it has an invalid configuration'] | 18:49 |
| clarkb | corvus: ^ odd that zuul didn't report back to gerrit about that invalid config | 18:50 |
| clarkb | I'm grepping with more context now to see if it says why the config is invalid | 18:51 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: one of the gate job was incorrect | 18:51 |
| EmilienM | I fixed the name | 18:51 |
| EmilienM | let's see | 18:51 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: it works now | 18:51 |
| EmilienM | sorry for noise | 18:51 |
| EmilienM | but maybe it's something zuul could have reported! | 18:52 |
| clarkb | INFO zuul.Pipeline.openstack.check: Configuration syntax error in dynamic layout is the only other info I see as far as what the error is/was | 18:52 |
| jillr | thx EmilienM | 18:53 |
| clarkb | EmilienM: as a suggestion don't bake centos 7 into the job name then the job can be updated easily if and when centos 8 happens | 18:53 |
| EmilienM | oh ok | 18:53 |
| EmilienM | clarkb: correct, we'll look at that | 18:53 |
| EmilienM | jillr: hope it helps to move forward ^ | 18:54 |
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| jillr | yep | 18:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Correctly handle non-array team_id and user_id parameters https://review.openstack.org/569883 | 18:56 |
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| clarkb | corvus: when you have a moment I would appreciate your thoughts on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-2018-08-03 since you had the specific concerns with zuul restarts. | 19:14 |
| clarkb | infra-root does https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/annouce-project-renames-2018-08-03 look like a reasonable notice email? | 19:14 |
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| mlavalle | Hi, is this the right channel to ask help in merging this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473718 | 19:15 |
| clarkb | mlavalle: devstack is technically a qa project. Some of us here are also devstack cores, though ideally I think we would have qa team more actively involved | 19:15 |
| mlavalle | clarkb: thanks, I'll ping the qa guys in their channel | 19:16 |
| clarkb | mlavalle: looks like frickler has mentioned that it is ready to be approved if the jobs run fine and neutron changes are approved. I would followup with frickler in that case | 19:17 |
| clarkb | mlavalle: CEST timezone iirc | 19:17 |
| mlavalle | clarkb: sounds good | 19:17 |
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| fungi | lgtm | 19:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add base playbooks and roles to bootstrap a new server https://review.openstack.org/587540 | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add sudoers file and groups https://review.openstack.org/587854 | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add bridge.openstack.org to trusted ssh list https://review.openstack.org/587855 | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add emacs and vim to base-server packages https://review.openstack.org/587983 | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add pip and virtualenv to bridge.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/587984 | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Install ansible on bridge https://review.openstack.org/587985 | 19:23 |
| mordred | clarkb: ^^ that last patch has the new inventory plugin stuff | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | mordred: that seems basically equivalent to the current system of just writing a groups file? | 19:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes - the main difference is that it's ready directly by ansible - whereas he current groups file has to be expanded by our helper script | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ah | 19:27 |
| clarkb | mordred: for the openstack plugin wasn't the name changed because openstack conlfict with openstack sdk imports? | 19:28 |
| mordred | clarkb: no - that was for the old openstack inventory script | 19:28 |
| mordred | the new openstack plugin lives at ansible.plugins.inventory.openstack | 19:29 |
| mordred | so doesn't get screwed up with import paths | 19:29 |
| clarkb | wouldn't it have the same problem? I guess you just can't use relative imports | 19:29 |
| mordred | yeah - it's working fine for me | 19:31 |
| mordred | clarkb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/727084/ | 19:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's with that config, with the emergency file copied from puppetmaster and the openstack.yaml and groups.yaml files in place | 19:38 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya I think it mostly gets weird if another plugin wants to use openstack sdk and sits in the same dir as that file | 19:38 |
| clarkb | assuming no one does that its likely fine | 19:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: yah - I would veto anyone adding such a thing :) | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I could see there being an object store plugin or more generic form of cloud resources that tried to talk to all of them. But I have no idea what ansibles plans are | 19:46 |
| clarkb | likely a non issue | 19:46 |
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| rm_work | mordred: for the record, just reading through the mailing list thread on the spam, and I love Matrix :P | 19:54 |
| rm_work | using it daily, it's awesome | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | rm_work: are you using it to connect to this channel/ | 19:54 |
| rm_work | no | 19:54 |
| rm_work | it's not an IRC gateway | 19:54 |
| clarkb | rm_work: it is actually :) | 19:54 |
| rm_work | lol well, the IRC bridge stuff is pretty ... eck | 19:54 |
| clarkb | rm_work: the main matrix cluster has a gateway to freenode as well as hosting their own stuff. | 19:54 |
| rm_work | I just use it as a native separate chat ecosystem | 19:55 |
| rm_work | i help run a community identity/homeserver | 19:55 |
| clarkb | rm_work: doyou join it to the mega cluster (I don't know what the actual term is). I think corvus and persia had mentioned the initial sync is not cheap | 19:55 |
| rm_work | the apps are awesome for web/desktop/mobile and it is definitely free/OSS which is nice | 19:56 |
| rm_work | no | 19:56 |
| rm_work | but it's all federated | 19:56 |
| rm_work | so i could join channels on it with my user from my own identity server | 19:56 |
| fungi | do we normally rely on the meetbot being a chanop for it to be able to set topics? looks like we set them to +O so they get auto-op'ed by default when /join'ing? | 19:56 |
| clarkb | fungi: we must because meeting channels are +t | 19:57 |
| rm_work | i assume we'd just run our own homeserver | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ed Leafe proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Rename the API-WG to API-SIG https://review.openstack.org/575478 | 19:57 |
| rm_work | the tricky part is, would we also run our own identity server and have a mechanism for signup? or tell people to sign up on the main matrix thing and join from there? | 19:57 |
| * fungi guesses chanserv was out to lunch when the meetbot last restarted, or something, and manually op's it in meeting channels | 19:58 | |
| rm_work | anyway, just popping in to say +1 for Matrix / Riot, it's awesome | 19:58 |
| rm_work | though I do still just love IRC T_T despite its problems | 19:59 |
| clarkb | rm_work: anymore I just use weechat to connect to the things | 19:59 |
| clarkb | rm_work: so it all looks like irc to me as a user | 19:59 |
| rm_work | yeah see, we tried running the IRC bridge stuff in Matrix | 20:00 |
| rm_work | and it had *problems* | 20:00 |
| rm_work | does weechat have a native matrix connection plugin or something now? | 20:00 |
| rm_work | that would be awesome actually | 20:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/storyboard master: Add to & Reorganize StoryBoard GUI Docs https://review.openstack.org/577934 | 20:00 |
| clarkb | rm_work: https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/weechat.html it does (I've not used it though) | 20:01 |
| fungi | rm_work: it has one for slack, so i'd be surprised if it didn't | 20:01 |
| SotK | does anyone have a minute to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587971/ please? | 20:01 |
| clarkb | SotK: looking | 20:01 |
| SotK | clarkb: thanks | 20:01 |
| rm_work | woah, neat | 20:03 |
| rm_work | clarkb: so do you connect via IRC bridge then? | 20:03 |
| clarkb | rm_work: no I don't use matrix currently | 20:03 |
| rm_work | oh, k | 20:03 |
| rm_work | but yes, that would work | 20:03 |
| clarkb | fwiw I think we need to be careful assuming that a migration to some other chat platform would prevent spam. I think there are good reasons to consider matrix ignoring the spam though | 20:04 |
| rm_work | having openstack-id / launchpad or something actually give you an account on our own matrix identity server would be sweet actually | 20:04 |
| rm_work | though would we block other federated users from connecting? | 20:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: would you be willing to be second reviewer on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585205/2/modules/openstack_project/files/puppetmaster/groups.txt ? I ended up fixing a bug on that change so would prefer to not +2 it myself | 20:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: I'm more than happy to babysit it though | 20:06 |
| clarkb | rm_work: at least with launchpad the spammers just create accounts there to hit things like our wiki | 20:06 |
| fungi | looking | 20:06 |
| clarkb | rm_work: so not sure it would make sense to prevent other users if local users could just as easily spam | 20:06 |
| clarkb | rm_work: but I'm also hand waving a bit | 20:07 |
| rm_work | heh yeah | 20:07 |
| rm_work | well, it's interesting to say the least | 20:07 |
| rm_work | i was just super happy to see matrix come up, as i've been a supporter for years now, and it'd be awesome to see it gain more traction | 20:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: approved. not sure how much babysitting is warranted since it's the staging server | 20:08 |
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| fungi | though of course we should make sure it's sane before we approve the production version | 20:08 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya mostly its babysitting and making sure puppet doesn't do anything unexpected so that I can approve the productio none | 20:09 |
| clarkb | yup that | 20:09 |
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| clarkb | rm_work: do you know how history is managed on the server side? I know it will do playback for clients, does it just have a time based configuration for how far it wil lgo back? | 20:17 |
| clarkb | rm_work: er specifically for matrix home servers | 20:17 |
| corvus | rm_work, clarkb: yeah, i run a personal homeserver. a learning experience for me was /joining #matrix:matrix.org. i'm not sure it ever finished syncing, and it took about 2 weeks for all the homeservers in the world to stop talking to mine. but despite that small surprise, i dig it. :) | 20:20 |
| corvus | (i expect the experience to be a bit different on a substantial vm in the cloud -- i mostly learned there are things you don't want to do if you run a server on a home internet connection) | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Update SSH key for SotK https://review.openstack.org/587971 | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/system-config master: Turn on future parser for ask-staging.o.o https://review.openstack.org/585205 | 20:30 |
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| rm_work | yeah, i believe it is just time based | 20:45 |
| rm_work | per channel | 20:46 |
| rm_work | and yeah, i see no reason we would need to join the main cluster thing :P | 20:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-kerberos master: Fix default admin_server parameter https://review.openstack.org/579347 | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-kerberos master: Add beaker tests https://review.openstack.org/582187 | 20:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add role to fetch zuul docs from nodes https://review.openstack.org/583350 | 20:51 |
| clarkb | hrm ask-staging is weird, but it was weird before the parser change | 20:52 |
| fungi | weird? | 20:52 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ya puppetmaster seems to be puppeting both ask-staging.o.o and ask-staging01.o.o. The first fails due to puppet rc of 4, the second does not have its ssh host key accepted | 20:53 |
| clarkb | if I ssh into ask-staging.openstack.org I end up on 01 and no evidence that puppet has been run there | 20:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add role to fetch zuul logs from nodes https://review.openstack.org/583346 | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add role to fetch zuul docs from nodes https://review.openstack.org/583350 | 20:54 |
| fungi | clarkb: maybe waiting for https://review.openstack.org/558992 to land? | 20:54 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ask-staging.o.o must still be in our inventory because we haven't nova deleted it then? | 20:55 |
| clarkb | hrm I need to unapprove that as hiera isn't setup for the groups yet | 20:56 |
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| clarkb | ianw: ^ you may have more of that paged in? happy to help if you point at what needs doing (I left a revie wcomment though) | 20:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-redis master: Add beaker tests https://review.openstack.org/581628 | 21:17 |
| ianw | clarkb fungi : yeah ask staging was waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558992/ and ... well yes i got distracted too :) | 21:18 |
| corvus | mordred, pabelanger: in jinja, do you know how i can detect that the type of a variable is a boolean and the value is true? | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-germqtt master: Add beaker tests https://review.openstack.org/581655 | 21:18 |
| mordred | corvus: I do not know that | 21:21 |
| mordred | corvus: I think you can do the bool filter | 21:22 |
| mordred | corvus: so you could say when: foo|bool ... but I don't know what "string"|bool means | 21:22 |
| corvus | mordred: i think that coerces it to a bool | 21:23 |
| corvus | so that would probably turn 1 into true | 21:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-simpleproxy master: Add beaker tests https://review.openstack.org/582155 | 21:23 |
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| corvus | but i want an expression which evaluates to false if the value is 1. it should only eval to true if the value is the actual boolean value true. in python, we'd write "foo is True" | 21:24 |
| mordred | rm_work, clarkb: I believe that we can set up federated identity for the local users for our home server - so logging in with openstackid to log in to our home server, for instance ... doing that would not prevent users connected to other homeservers from sending messages to channels or users hosted on our home server | 21:24 |
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| mordred | corvus: you might be able to write "foo is True" | 21:24 |
| corvus | mordred: "no test named true" -- jinja "is" isn't the same as python "is". it means "run a jinja concept called a test" | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: trigger-readthedocs: Move secret bits into a dict https://review.openstack.org/587767 | 21:25 |
| corvus | these are the tests: http://jinja.pocoo.org/docs/2.10/templates/#list-of-builtin-tests | 21:25 |
| mordred | corvus: ah - interesting | 21:25 |
| mordred | rm_work, clarkb: that is different from running a matrix identity server which is used for mapping email addresses to matrix user accounts - at the moment running your own one of those does have an impact on some aspects of federation | 21:26 |
| mordred | corvus: is this for a zuul job or an ansible playbook? | 21:26 |
| corvus | mordred: wow. maybe i could do "not (iterable or mapping or number or string or none)" ? | 21:26 |
| corvus | mordred: ansible playbook | 21:26 |
| mordred | corvus: it is possible to add jinja filter things - and I think it would be safe for us to have custom jinja filter things in our system-config ansible | 21:27 |
| corvus | i'm replacing "<% if values[k] == true -%>" in puppet | 21:27 |
| corvus | wow. "if t is number" evals to true in jinja if t is a boolean. | 21:30 |
| corvus | i guess i'll try the filter plugin path | 21:31 |
| ianw | corvus: re https://review.openstack.org/587767 am i being paranoid thinking that exacting the secret values into variables then passing them to roles may leak them? | 21:33 |
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| mordred | ianw: only if the roles print them out | 21:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: ara won't capture that? | 21:35 |
| mordred | ianw: what you're doing there seems potentially fine - although it might be worth checking that the uri module doesn't log the token into ara | 21:35 |
| clarkb | I guess it captures facts but intermediate values it doesn't | 21:35 |
| clarkb | ? | 21:35 |
| mordred | yeah- it shouldn't capture intermediate values | 21:35 |
| corvus | ianw: is there a reason that job is in project-config? | 21:35 |
| ianw | corvus: because it needs the readthedocs secret? | 21:36 |
| corvus | ianw: hrm. well, that was true when we thought there was one secret, but now there's a secret for every project, right? | 21:36 |
| corvus | or is it just a url for each project? | 21:37 |
| corvus | ah, yeah, it's just an id for each project | 21:37 |
| corvus | the secret is central | 21:37 |
| ianw | corvus: it's just a non-secret integer value for each project that rtd sticks at the end of each webhook | 21:37 |
| corvus | i'm caught up now :) | 21:37 |
| corvus | ianw, mordred, clarkb: won't ara and the json output record the module invocation? | 21:39 |
| corvus | ianw, mordred, clarkb: so maybe that does need "no_log: true" for all of those? | 21:39 |
| fungi | right, the alternative solution was to have jobs take per-project secrets but hooking zuul to one rtd account which the projects grant access seemed simpler | 21:39 |
| ianw | hrm, let me find my test run that failed | 21:40 |
| mordred | corvus: yeah - I think maybe no_log: true would be good | 21:40 |
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| ianw | http://logs.openstack.org/ee/ee5167a518de07c325f326df212c92e5c1e786a9/post/trigger-readthedocs-webhook/f677f03/ara-report/ | 21:42 |
| corvus | ianw: left summary comment on change | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Wienand proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: trigger-readthedocs: Move secret bits into a dict https://review.openstack.org/587767 | 21:50 |
| ianw | thanks, that no_logs the uri calls | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add base playbooks and roles to bootstrap a new server https://review.openstack.org/587540 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add sudoers file and groups https://review.openstack.org/587854 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add bridge.openstack.org to trusted ssh list https://review.openstack.org/587855 | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add an Ansible role to configure exim https://review.openstack.org/588089 | 21:50 |
| corvus | mordred: sorry. i will fix that. | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add an Ansible role to configure exim https://review.openstack.org/588089 | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add base playbooks and roles to bootstrap a new server https://review.openstack.org/587540 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add sudoers file and groups https://review.openstack.org/587854 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add bridge.openstack.org to trusted ssh list https://review.openstack.org/587855 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add emacs and vim to base-server packages https://review.openstack.org/587983 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add pip and virtualenv to bridge.openstack.org https://review.openstack.org/587984 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Install ansible on bridge https://review.openstack.org/587985 | 21:59 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Add an Ansible role to configure exim https://review.openstack.org/588089 | 21:59 |
| corvus | mordred: okay, that should be straightened out now. that should be the series as you last pushed it up, with exim added to the end. | 21:59 |
| mordred | woot | 22:00 |
| corvus | mordred: i haven't added the role to any playbooks yet | 22:01 |
| corvus | though i have run it on a test machine | 22:01 |
| mordred | corvus: cool. I'm trying to get inventory caching working - once it is, we should be in good shape to add the exim role to a playbook and run that on bridge from bridge | 22:02 |
| mordred | (we could totally actually do that now - but withut the caching it takes a few minutes each run) | 22:02 |
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| corvus | mordred: kk. i'll stand aside while you do that | 22:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-planet master: Add beaker tests https://review.openstack.org/581777 | 22:18 |
| rm_work | mordred: yeah ok, that is interesting -- and i think allowing users to sign in with their existing openstack logins makes good sense | 22:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard master: Set "AllowEncodedSlashes on" in vhost templates https://review.openstack.org/588095 | 22:20 |
| rm_work | though as much as I love Matrix, I do share the concerns of a "fractured community" the same as many others | 22:20 |
| rm_work | I've seen that too much T_T | 22:20 |
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| rm_work | it took like a year to get everyone out of just one old channel and into a new named on, on the *same network* | 22:20 |
| corvus | yeah, we're going to decide as a community whether or not to move. | 22:21 |
| rm_work | we'd have to do something drastic like essentially lock the channels after a little bit and give people the new connection info :/ kinda like what you guys did for the spam stuff here | 22:21 |
| rm_work | and it's just kinda | 22:21 |
| rm_work | :/ | 22:21 |
| rm_work | un-ideal | 22:21 |
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| fungi | https://review.openstack.org/588095 gets name-based project urls working on storyboard.o.o, if any infra-puppet-core is interested in reviewing an apache vhost one-liner addition | 22:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard master: Set "AllowEncodedSlashes on" in vhost templates https://review.openstack.org/588095 | 22:27 |
| clarkb | heh now with more verbse commit message :) | 22:28 |
| SotK | I decided I would frown at myself in the future if I didn't make it better | 22:31 |
| clarkb | SotK: fair enough :) | 22:32 |
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| fungi | heh | 22:33 |
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| * mordred hands SotK and fungi a giant pile of fluffy bunnies | 22:44 | |
| fungi | yum! | 22:45 |
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| SotK | :) | 22:48 |
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| clarkb | ok I think I've got through the topic:puppet-4 backlog, there are a few changes that could use a second reviewer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581884/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/585195/ in particular | 22:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: there are a few you +2'd (primarily add beaker test changes) that I'm holding off on becaus eI need to figure out how production like some of them are. I think many of the irc bots will actually connect to freenode for example :/ | 22:48 |
| clarkb | not sure if that is desireable | 22:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Coldrick proposed openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient master: Correctly handle non-array team_id and user_id parameters https://review.openstack.org/569883 | 22:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-pip master: Update Gemfile for Zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/582052 | 22:55 |
| clarkb | mordred: did you set up the infra twitter account? | 22:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: I think so? | 22:58 |
| mordred | clarkb: it also might have been lyz | 22:58 |
| clarkb | apparnetly the logo is the old one and I don't see the account creds in passwrods file | 22:58 |
| mordred | hrm. I thought I put them in there :( | 22:59 |
| clarkb | I could also be blind | 22:59 |
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| mordred | I also don't see it :( | 23:02 |
| ianw | if i could get one more eye on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/587767/ and the associated secret change https://review.openstack.org/587771 that would be awesome and let me see today what the next thing i screwed up is :) | 23:02 |
| johnsom | Hi folks, can you please apply the +r flag to the #openstack-barbican channel? It seems to still be getting spam. | 23:03 |
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| clarkb | johnsom: it is in the accessbot list, should've been applied earlier today when corvus did all of those /me double checks | 23:04 |
| johnsom | Yeah, that is what I thought too | 23:04 |
| mordred | looks like it has the flag | 23:04 |
| clarkb | yup it does | 23:05 |
| clarkb | as well as the forward | 23:05 |
| johnsom | That is bad news then.... | 23:05 |
| johnsom | It's still getting hit | 23:05 |
| ianw | :( just noticed this in python-dev too, which is +r | 23:07 |
| clarkb | are they using identified nicks now that freenode suggested +r I wonder | 23:07 |
| mordred | probably so | 23:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql master: Don't install python-yaml package https://review.openstack.org/581111 | 23:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-subunit2sql master: Pin statsd to version 2.1.2 https://review.openstack.org/581334 | 23:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-storyboard master: Set "AllowEncodedSlashes on" in vhost templates https://review.openstack.org/588095 | 23:10 |
| corvus | ianw, clarkb, mordred, johnsom: #openstack-barbican lacks +n, that means messages can be sent to the channel without joining. | 23:14 |
| corvus | i think we should add +n to all our channels. | 23:14 |
| mordred | corvus: ++ | 23:15 |
| clarkb | ah | 23:15 |
| johnsom | I just saw that the nick wasn't end the list when it came through | 23:15 |
| corvus | (apparently that *is* being taken advantage of by the spammers, so that may have been what happened here) | 23:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-reviewday master: Fix exec idempotency https://review.openstack.org/581884 | 23:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-reviewday master: Add beaker tests https://review.openstack.org/581885 | 23:16 |
| clarkb | corvus: is that something we should add to accessbot and make permanent rather than doing as a one off? | 23:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-reviewday master: Don't create reviewday subdirectory https://review.openstack.org/582524 | 23:17 |
| corvus | clarkb: likely, though i don't think accessbot handles channel modes right now, so i'm going to perform a one-off | 23:17 |
| clarkb | ok | 23:17 |
| mordred | it does not - I checked earlier today | 23:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/puppet-askbot master: Fix template variable https://review.openstack.org/585195 | 23:17 |
| corvus | i'm off to have a long chat with chanserv again | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack-infra/system-config master: Configure and fix caching in the new openstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/588100 | 23:19 |
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| mordred | corvus: sorry it took so long - that ^^ should get us sorted on bridge - but I've hit my pumpkin time for the day | 23:21 |
| clarkb | mordred: did 2.6 releaes? | 23:22 |
| corvus | #status log set mlock +n on all channels (prevents sending to the channel without joining) | 23:24 |
| openstackstatus | corvus: finished logging | 23:24 |
| corvus | infra-root: ^ | 23:24 |
| corvus | johnsom: thanks for the report; that hole should be patched now :) | 23:24 |
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| johnsom | corvus Thank you for feeding the chanserv | 23:25 |
| corvus | it was very hungry | 23:25 |
| ianw | corvus: should we (I?) look at putting channel modes into https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-accessbot/blob/master/files/accessbot.py ? | 23:29 |
| clarkb | woo topic:puppet-4 is quite short now (at least compared to what it once was), thank you for the help there | 23:33 |
| corvus | ianw: yeah, i think that would be helpful | 23:37 |
| corvus | the mlock +f thing is tricky though -- you have to be an op in the target channel to set it. we might need special handling for #openstack-unregistered | 23:38 |
| corvus | (like, have accessbot join #openstack-unregistered, op itself, then set mlocks) | 23:38 |
| clarkb | corvus: not good enough to just have the ability to be op I guess? | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | clarkb, mordred: looks like the pw I have works, but I don't have access to my gpg key at the moment to encrypt a file, other thoughts on how to share? | 23:39 |
| clarkb | pleia2: mordred: we can probably risk sending it in the clear if we reset it right away? fungi might not care for that idea thoug h:P | 23:40 |
| clarkb | pleia2: also it isn't a rush if we want to wait for gpg key to be available | 23:40 |
| pleia2 | won't be until next week | 23:40 |
| clarkb | we can probably wait that long | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | ok, just remind me if I forget :) | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | (and I am logged in, I can do a quick logo swap if I have the file) | 23:41 |
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| fungi | it's a twitter account... i don't have super high expectations for the security of its credentials anyway | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:44 |
| fungi | but also, not a rush, as clarkb said | 23:44 |
| fungi | it's only a logo after all | 23:44 |
| clarkb | pleia2: https://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-logo/logo-download/ has the files as png and svg | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | sorry for not adding it to the password store back in the day, that seems unlike me /o\ | 23:44 |
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| fungi | looks like it's using infra-root@openstack.org anyway, so we could have reset it ourselves if we'd cared | 23:45 |
| ianw | Aug 1 12:23:24 eavesdrop01 puppet-user[22448]: (/Stage[main]/Accessbot/Exec[run_accessbot]) Failed to call refresh: Command exceeded timeout | 23:47 |
| ianw | i don't think accessbot ran last time | 23:47 |
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| ianw | unfortunately the logs aren't timestamped | 23:48 |
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| pleia2 | ok, we're on brand again ;) | 23:49 |
| clarkb | pleia2: thanks | 23:50 |
| fungi | the logo wonks at the foundation will be thrilled ;) | 23:50 |
| ianw | NOTICE openstackinfra :+Flags ^B+Aeforstv^B | 23:54 |
| ianw | i wonder what the "^B" is about | 23:55 |
| ianw | test bold off | 23:56 |
| openstackgerrit | James E. Blair proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add HTMLify logs role https://review.openstack.org/588105 | 23:57 |
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