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| dhellmann | o/ | 11:39 |
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| AJaeger | welcome back, dhellmann ! Hope you had a great vacation | 11:42 |
| dhellmann | hi, AJaeger! yes, it was very relaxing, thanks | 11:42 |
| dhellmann | today's goal is to remember how to use a computer | 11:43 |
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| AJaeger | dhellmann: you mastered steps 1 and 2 with showing up here ;) | 11:43 |
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| dhellmann | haha | 11:44 |
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| fungi | i think they're called "business machines" | 12:09 |
| AJaeger | fungi: you mean dhellmann received his blue hat already? ;) | 12:10 |
| fungi | heh | 12:10 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : when you take a red hat and blue wash it you get purple, right? my niece will love that. | 12:10 |
| fungi | quite some news to greet you on your return from vacation | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that'll teach me to take another vacation | 12:11 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: Looking forward to the summit to see the new coloured hats ;) | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | heh | 12:11 |
| fungi | you might want to double-check you didn't accidentally travel to a parallel dimension | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | I was driving in France, so that's entirely possible | 12:11 |
| AJaeger | (I know it will take far longer...) | 12:11 |
| dhellmann | it would explain the wind farm | 12:12 |
| AJaeger | infra-root, could you review https://review.openstack.org/613509 and https://review.openstack.org/602252 , please? | 12:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack-infra/jeepyb master: Use https for links https://review.openstack.org/613509 | 12:19 |
| AJaeger | fungi, thanks for reviews - I rebased my change on the one you approved due to conflicts ^ | 12:19 |
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| dmellado | I just came back from holidays and well and shocked, tbh | 12:23 |
| dmellado | xD | 12:23 |
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| mordred | dmellado: that should teach you the dangers of taking holiday | 13:32 |
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| rcarrillocruz | inorite | 13:37 |
| rcarrillocruz | just back from paternity leave | 13:37 |
| rcarrillocruz | like, WTF | 13:37 |
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| mordred | infra-root: due to circumstances that arose over the weekend, I find my calendar today a bit more full of phone calls than normal, so I might not be around as much as I might usually be | 13:44 |
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| Shrews | shocking | 13:45 |
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| fungi | mordred: thanks for the heads up | 13:52 |
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| rcarrillocruz | lulz | 13:54 |
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| dmellado | mordred: totally | 13:56 |
| dmellado | lol, you too rcarrillocruz? | 13:56 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah dude | 13:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | just back | 13:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | i've been off 2 weeks | 13:57 |
| rcarrillocruz | i got very surprised when i got your whatsapp at 8am, like...something is happening, is too early to get a message from Dani haha | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/jeepyb master: Use https for links https://review.openstack.org/613509 | 14:02 |
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| fungi | great day for a cpu fan failure | 14:15 |
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| mordred | fungi: who needs a cpu fan | 14:47 |
| mordred | fungi: if you put a blanket on your legs between you and the laptop, the heat will burn you less | 14:47 |
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| clarkb | mordred with the protips | 14:52 |
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| * mordred really needs to fix the cpu fan in his laptop | 14:56 | |
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| fungi | i have a drawer full of replacement cpu fans (as well as other spare parts) for my workstation, just a matter of taking everything apart. nearly done now | 15:01 |
| mordred | oh - workstation. you probably don't want to put that on your lap anyway | 15:02 |
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| fungi | it's tiny. 4.5"sq x 1" deep, vesa-mounted to the back of my workstand | 15:04 |
| fungi | would be fine on a lap if not for all the cables | 15:04 |
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| mordred | fungi: some might find all the cables to be fashionable | 15:10 |
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| quiquell | mordred, fungi: don't we have br-ex at fedora nodesets at zuul ? | 15:29 |
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| clarkb | quiquell: that isnt a nodeset functionality it is a job functionality. I beliece devstack jobs set that up for neutron | 15:34 |
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| clarkb | but by default the multinode role doesnt because it is neutron specific | 15:35 |
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| quiquell | clarkb: ok will look in the pre roles | 15:35 |
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| clarkb | I'm going to be juggling a three year old this morning for a bit so other family members can go visit the dentist. I expect I'll poke at improving my zuul usage number script to break down which jobs use the most time (where we could put effrot to speed things up with the biggest impact), and make percentage of usage autoamtically calculated. I'm open to other thoughts on how to make that data useful | 15:52 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: also I'll review those changes now | 15:52 |
| clarkb | and they both merged the best way to start a morning :) | 15:52 |
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| clarkb | oh I should have it automatically break down usage using the governance repo proejcts list | 15:58 |
| clarkb | that makes it more oepnstack specific but meh | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Mathieu Gagné proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Revert "Disable inap-mtl01 provider" https://review.openstack.org/613970 | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add noop to instack https://review.openstack.org/613979 | 16:33 |
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| AJaeger | mgagne: is inap-mtl01 ready ? That's great, thanks! | 17:01 |
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| AJaeger | infra-root, want to +2A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613970/ and move to gate so that we get 190 nodes in addition from inap-mtl01, please? | 17:01 |
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| mgagne | AJaeger: yes | 17:19 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: looking | 17:23 |
| clarkb | also thank you mgagne ! | 17:23 |
| prometheanfire | fungi: did you say that the listserv stuff was updated to allow for dkim? (a couple weeks ago) | 17:23 |
| fungi | mordred: the starlingx crowd are looking at using netlify cms for their main starlingx.io website... i remember you mentioning possibly using it for zuul-ci.org as well. how were you expecting to have it interoperate with gerrit? or had you gotten that far? | 17:23 |
| mgagne | clarkb: lets see how it goes | 17:23 |
| fungi | prometheanfire: the new openstack-discuss list will be, by way of turning off any message body and subject mangling | 17:24 |
| prometheanfire | fungi: righ, that's the one I was wondering about (about to sub to it with my non-gentoo (main) email) | 17:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Benoît Bayszczak proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: upgrade minimum Ansible version to 2.5.2 https://review.openstack.org/613999 | 17:27 |
| clarkb | I've refined the usage data scraping a bit http://paste.openstack.org/show/733572/ | 17:28 |
| clarkb | I'll update my change to zuul too in a moment | 17:28 |
| clarkb | this now scrapes all the available zuul.log files too | 17:29 |
| clarkb | so a month from last week we'll be able to do monthly snapshots | 17:29 |
| fungi | excellent! | 17:33 |
| fungi | thanks for working on that, it's going to come in really handy | 17:33 |
| clarkb | as soon as pep8 passes I'll push the latest script version too :) | 17:34 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Cleanup down ports https://review.openstack.org/609829 | 17:35 |
| mordred | fungi: yes - we spoke about doing work to integrate it with gerrit - we so far haven't gotten that work done | 17:35 |
| mordred | fungi: we spoke with the netlify-cms team and theyre' open/receptive to it | 17:35 |
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| mordred | fungi: I'd love to collaborate on the work needed to gerrit-enable netlify-cms | 17:36 |
| openstackgerrit | David Shrewsbury proposed openstack-infra/nodepool master: Cleanup down ports https://review.openstack.org/609829 | 17:36 |
| AJaeger | fungi, clarkb, do you want to enqueue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613970/ directly into gate pipeline? Otherwise we have to wait at least another hour... | 17:38 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ++ I can do that as soon as I push up this change | 17:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Small script to scrape Zuul job node usage https://review.openstack.org/613674 | 17:39 |
| clarkb | that is what I used to generate the paste above | 17:40 |
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| clarkb | ok enqueuing 613970 now | 17:40 |
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| mordred | fungi: basically, we need to write a gerrit driver for netlify cms - which both corvus and I have indicated interest in actually working on - but of course having time is tricky. we could also just sit down with someone who does have time to spec out what is needed | 17:41 |
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| clarkb | enqueue is slow, I think that means zuul is rebuilding configs right now | 17:42 |
| * clarkb tries to be patient | 17:42 | |
| clarkb | there it goes | 17:42 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: done | 17:42 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: I think there are some more tripleo jobs - they have added jobs to other repos e.g. barbican, see http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/barbican/tree/.zuul.yaml#n183 (same is true for other projects as well) | 17:43 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: thanks | 17:44 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: ya that is why I break it down by project, repo, and job because jobs can apply to many repos and projects | 17:44 |
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| AJaeger | ok | 17:44 |
| clarkb | if say 50% of the job cost was running unittetss we'd know improving that job to be faster would help globally | 17:44 |
| clarkb | but it isn't, they are tripleo specific jobs which may run outside of tripleo, but the cost is high to tripleo directly | 17:45 |
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| fungi | mordred: thanks, yeah it sounds like they're going to set up a github repo to act as their netlify backend for now | 17:45 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: I see | 17:45 |
| mordred | fungi: that's "awesome" | 17:47 |
| fungi | indeed :/ | 17:47 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: want to give out the time range you used for scraping in your script? meaning from 28th to 29th or whatever it is | 17:47 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: its from when we restarted Zuul on thursday. That is when we started logging this data | 17:48 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: we have 30 day log retention so once we get 30 days past that restart it will be a 30 day snapshot | 17:48 |
| clarkb | and then output was generated about half an hour ago | 17:49 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: the output of the script could contain: Oldest data, newest data in it so that we can easily compare that. | 17:49 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: thats a good idea | 17:49 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: I'll work on that after some breakfast/lunch | 17:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Revert "Disable inap-mtl01 provider" https://review.openstack.org/613970 | 17:55 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: ^ fyi | 17:55 |
| mgagne | +1 | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clark Boylan proposed openstack-infra/zuul master: Small script to scrape Zuul job node usage https://review.openstack.org/613674 | 18:33 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ^ done http://paste.openstack.org/show/733577/ is output | 18:33 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: nice, thanks! | 18:34 |
| mordred | clarkb: woot | 18:37 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: how long does it take until 613970 is live? It merged over 40 mins ago and http://grafana.openstack.org/d/ykvSNcImk/nodepool-inap?orgId=1 shows no images booting yet - is that ok? | 18:39 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: let me check the ansible puppet cron | 18:39 |
| clarkb | oh it may still be in the emergency list :/ I'll fix | 18:39 |
| clarkb | ya that was it | 18:40 |
| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb ! | 18:40 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: mgagne I removed nl03 from the emergency file and changed max-servers to 190 to speed things up | 18:41 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: first 0.3 images are building ;) | 18:41 |
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| roman_g | 0.3 :) | 18:42 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: when you made the zuul patch to use r'' - did you use a script, or just by hand? | 18:52 |
| clarkb | if anyone is wondering gzip.open() and open() have different default open modes on python3 | 18:53 |
| clarkb | this seems like it should be a bug | 18:53 |
| clarkb | gzip.open is 'rb' and open is 'rt' | 18:53 |
| AJaeger | mordred: by hand - why? | 18:54 |
| AJaeger | mordred: I updated to flake 3.6.0 and fixed all problems reported... | 18:55 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, i honestly don't know why they did it that way. i've found it quite annoying | 18:55 |
| AJaeger | (and sometimes went through by hand quickly looking for similar pattern) | 18:55 |
| mordred | AJaeger: I was doing the same in the sdk repo - and was wondering if you'd written a magical script to do it I could also use | 18:55 |
| mordred | AJaeger: :) | 18:55 |
| AJaeger | mordred: sorry, no ;( | 18:55 |
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| mordred | AJaeger: no worries - I often just assume you have magic somewhere | 18:56 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 18:57 |
| AJaeger | I wonder why we build and delete nodes in inap - but not run them - see http://grafana.openstack.org/d/ykvSNcImk/nodepool-inap?orgId=1 . | 18:57 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: mgagne it could be the new image timeouts again. I'll look and see if logs say anything | 18:58 |
| clarkb | yup timeouts waiting for node to come up | 18:58 |
| clarkb | openstack.exceptions.ResourceTimeout: Timeout waiting for the server to come up. | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tobias Henkel proposed openstack-infra/zuul-jobs master: Add prepare-workspace-git role https://review.openstack.org/613036 | 19:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack-infra/infra-manual master: Add info on needing publish-to-pypi template https://review.openstack.org/614017 | 19:42 |
| clarkb | mgagne: AJaeger the inap grafana grpah doesn't look happy. Should we do anything with it? | 19:44 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: at least we now started launching nodes - first 4 ones are in use. But the 258 deleted look odd | 19:45 |
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| AJaeger | and nothing new building - yeah, looks unhappy | 19:47 |
| fungi | thundering herd populating the image cache on all the nova hosts? | 19:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that is possible | 19:48 |
| clarkb | question is whether it can recover | 19:48 |
| AJaeger | very slowly deleting nodes - now 256 | 19:49 |
| AJaeger | so, do we need to wait another hour or two? | 19:49 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I'm willing to wait if mgagne is | 19:49 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: now at 239 - let's wait a bit | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | in use keeps going up as deleting falling | 20:11 |
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| fungi | sounds more and more likely it was indeed an image cache thundering herd in that case | 20:23 |
| clarkb | it continues to trend the right direction. I'll keep an eye on it | 20:24 |
| fungi | i wonder if a nodepool slow-start feature would make sense... some parameter that says how rapidly to phase in max-servers increases | 20:25 |
| fungi | so that we don't slam providers all in one go | 20:25 |
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| anteaya | how practical | 20:26 |
| mgagne | clarkb: still stuck in deleting? | 20:27 |
| clarkb | mgagne: no things are deleting just a little slowly, also instances are booting and in use | 20:28 |
| clarkb | mgagne: I think it was a thundering herd image problem that we seem to be getting over now | 20:28 |
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| mgagne | ok, at least it's not affecting other systems, it should now be isolated from a network bw perspective | 20:28 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: ok, feel free to ping me if you need anything from your side I should be around the rest of the day | 20:30 |
| mgagne | alright, I'll let nodepool do its thing unless our netadmin pings me. | 20:31 |
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| clarkb | inap graph looks normal the last 10 minutes | 21:23 |
| mgagne | :D | 21:23 |
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| clarkb | infra-root I'd like to delete nodepool.openstack.org tomorrow. If you have any files/scripts/data on that server or otherwise know of a reason I should not do this please speak up | 21:52 |
| clarkb | the zk cluster looks happy from where I am looking though | 21:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add noop to instack-undercloud https://review.openstack.org/613630 | 22:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Add noop to instack https://review.openstack.org/613979 | 22:17 |
| clarkb | mwhahaha: re ^ as a note the master branch will stick around because gerrit has a sad when the repo HEAD changes | 22:18 |
| clarkb | mwhahaha: but we can totally stop treating it as a development point | 22:18 |
| mwhahaha | clarkb: yea that's what i'm expecting | 22:19 |
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| anticw | following up on a line of conversation from last week ... the only thing than can cause a merge for most openstack projects is zuul? | 23:14 |
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| anticw | 3rd party CICD don't get permission to the gerrit merge action? | 23:15 |
| clarkb | anticw: correct | 23:15 |
| clarkb | zuul is the only account that has the submit permission in gerrit | 23:15 |
| anticw | the zuul queue (from my last read of somehting fungi pointed me at i think) is global ... there is no way to 'fast track' something that you think zuul can process in seconds/minutes? | 23:19 |
| clarkb | anticw: sort of. Small "safe" tasks that can be run on the zuul executors can execute there directly. They do no wait for nodes in the queue, they just run | 23:20 |
| clarkb | anticw: anything that isn't safe to run on the executor needs to run on provisioned nodes as part of the queuing | 23:20 |
| clarkb | anticw: http://lists.zuul-ci.org/pipermail/zuul-discuss/2018-October/000575.html is a proposal to change how prioritization of that queuing is done | 23:21 |
| clarkb | anticw: to attempt to be more fair. If you are interested your input on that thread would probably be useful | 23:21 |
| anticw | clarkb: yeah, that was the thread | 23:22 |
| anticw | clarkb: what defines a 'Small "safe"' task? | 23:22 |
| clarkb | anticw: basically anything that can run in a confined directory on the executor (no access to external files) that doesn't run arbitrary code on the executor. So making http requests off host are safe as they can be done with the ansible module that does that. | 23:23 |
| clarkb | you can do other manipulations as long as they are encoded in ansible iirc and don't have a way to access external data | 23:24 |
| clarkb | er external on host data (external off host is ok) | 23:24 |
| clarkb | anticw: I believe you can also add host then ssh into another machine using the per project ssh keys | 23:25 |
| clarkb | then run remote ansible that way (it is something theoretically doable that the infra team is looking at for CD deployments of ifnra itself via zuul, we just haven't gotten it working yet due to things external to zuul) | 23:25 |
| anticw | clarkb: oh, so ansible somehow knows what's safe and what isn't? | 23:26 |
| clarkb | anticw: ya, zuul has patched out the unsafe bits of ansible and will prevent them from running on the executor | 23:27 |
| anticw | clarkb: i'm asking going back to the idea of running some (not all) jobs elsewhere ... could this 'safe executor' block for 20 mins waiting to see if a remote job was processed successfully? | 23:27 |
| clarkb | liek shell or command are both not allowed iirc | 23:27 |
| clarkb | anticw: my first impression of that is we should avoid doing that because that prevents zuul from doing other work and running other jobs which will contribute to the existing problem | 23:28 |
| anticw | yeah, prob means 20 minute delay (loop) waiting on http isn't gonna work either ... | 23:28 |
| clarkb | (zuul executors self throttle) | 23:28 |
| anticw | clarkb: right, wasn't sure of the concurrency model, i can imagine some cases where you just create 1000s or millions of such jobs but that sounds like it isn't the case | 23:28 |
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