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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack-infra/project-config master: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/625149 | 06:03 |
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| tina2be | Hello everyone, I asked a question but I'm not sure if it was asked in the proper channel. | 11:07 |
| tina2be | So here it is : | 11:07 |
| tina2be | Does an environment that has no developers and is using the default and vanilla openstack as the infra, need to have and run CI/CD solutions including Zuul? | 11:07 |
| tina2be | If yes so, what would be benefit of having such component and tool, and if not, I would appreciate if you clarify the reason. | 11:07 |
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| tina2be | If yes so, what would be benefit of having such component and tool, and if not, I would appreciate if you clarify the reason. | 11:07 |
| tina2be | Personally, what I think is that such solutions would be a benefit for companies coding in Nova and other components or trying to add some by themselves, so AFAIK environments with no developers could only use automation tools such an ansible since all they do is to deploy and test phases and pipelines would never get so much of a big deal to have a CICD solution. If I am wrong, I'd appreciate if you correct me. cheers. | 11:08 |
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| fungi | tina2be: i agree with your assessment. zuul itself isn't really tied to openstack, but if you have a fork of some components of openstack you're trying to maintain then having a cd/cd system could be useful for integrating and deploying updates of your forks | 13:21 |
| fungi | er, having a ci/cd system | 13:21 |
| fungi | zuul is very much an independent suite of software though, it just happens to have originally been written to solve scaling issues we encountered in testing projects at the scale openstack is developed | 13:23 |
| tina2be | fungi: Indeed, that's very much an independent suite of software and aims to solve scaling issues in development. So as I was only using ansible and such tools to deploy and do other stuff as a sysadmin and not a developer, so I'd say I would stick with them for now since we do not have any development phase currently. | 13:25 |
| fungi | sure, though with zuul relying on ansible as its automation language, you're well-placed to take advantage of triggering it that way in the future if you decide that's what you want | 13:27 |
| tina2be | It seems interesting and logical, I will implement zuul shortly and try to use my ansible playbooks through zuul. | 13:29 |
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| fungi | certainly one of the goals with using ansible in zuul is the idea that you can run the same production ansible playbooks/roles/tasks in test environments and see whether changes you're thinking of making (maybe not even to the software for the services but perhaps to your ansible configuration itself) works the way you intend | 13:31 |
| fungi | the people in this channel run lots of production servers for a variety of services our community uses, and we perform deployment tests with some of those same playbooks as integration test jobs via zuul | 13:33 |
| fungi | a mix of ansible and puppet in fact, but we exercise it in similar ways as it would be deployed | 13:33 |
| tina2be | Wow that sounds perfect, in that way I can avoid humanly made mistakes. | 13:35 |
| tina2be | That sounds great, I really got to give it a whirl. | 13:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/project-config master: Normalize projects.yaml https://review.openstack.org/625149 | 15:50 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: thanks for athe reviews! Sorry, was offline and couldn't comment earlier! | 16:02 |
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| Linkid | hi | 18:45 |
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| mnaser | infra-root: 625448,1 is stuck 'queued' for the past 44 minutes in gate, it was an attempt at multinode k8s conformance tests | 21:36 |
| mnaser | any ideas on why it's taken so long? | 21:36 |
| clarkb | mnaser: in check? | 21:38 |
| mnaser | clarkb: yeah | 21:38 |
| mnaser | the change is here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625448/ | 21:38 |
| mnaser | aw crap, i forgot to include files | 21:39 |
| mnaser | i wonder if that's the reason. i'll hold before reuploading if that's the case | 21:39 |
| clarkb | mnaser: I think it may be because no single nodepool "pool" can satisfy the multinode request | 21:39 |
| mnaser | clarkb: aaaaaah | 21:40 |
| clarkb | iirc multinode nodesets must be provided by the same pool | 21:40 |
| mnaser | ok so i should make both of them that provider specific one | 21:40 |
| clarkb | (its a locality thing to try and aggregate things where they can run together reliably) | 21:40 |
| clarkb | ya I would try that and see if it schedules | 21:40 |
| mnaser | i thought about that | 21:40 |
| mnaser | but i figured running tunnels over the internet and doing cross-cloud ci would be cool | 21:40 |
| mnaser | :P | 21:40 |
| clarkb | mnaser: unrelated but OSA periodic jobs blip the pip can't find package to install e-r query every day because they try to install wheel and pyopenssl from wha tI think is a local mirror then after that fails rerun the pip install with the --isolated flag which uses the infra mirror and it works | 21:41 |
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| clarkb | any idea what the intent is there? it would be nice if we could clean that job up and just run with --isolated the first time if we can know the non isolated attempt will fail | 21:42 |
| mnaser | clarkb: yikes, that's no good. i think that was something that odyssey4me had pushed out a fix for | 21:42 |
| mnaser | is this on master? | 21:42 |
| clarkb | http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-ansible/stable/queens/openstack-ansible-upgrade-ceph-ubuntu-xenial/8f531a1/job-output.txt#_2018-12-16_07_59_23_700381 | 21:42 |
| clarkb | looks like its periodic jobs for stable branches | 21:42 |
| clarkb | http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=(message:%5C%22No%20matching%20distribution%20found%20for%5C%22%20OR%20message:%5C%22%5C%5CnNo%20matching%20distribution%20found%20for%5C%22)%20AND%20tags:console%20AND%20voting:1&from=864000s to see more | 21:43 |
| clarkb | I don't think its urgent, just one of the many small cleanups that will help us get a better picture of where the real failures are | 21:43 |
| mnaser | clarkb: ok, i'll take note of it and try to dig in a bit (or maybe ask jesse if he has any quick ideas as to the why/what) | 21:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | François Magimel proposed openstack-infra/infra-specs master: Add the video hosting specification https://review.openstack.org/625450 | 21:46 |
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| Linkid | I didn't find much doc about how to handle docker containers for OpenStack infra | 21:50 |
| Linkid | I hope it will be ok | 21:50 |
| clarkb | Linkid: I think its still somewhat unknown for us. | 21:51 |
| clarkb | Linkid: we are learning :) | 21:51 |
| Linkid | I marked it as WIP, then | 21:58 |
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