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| fungi | roman_g: just replied to your rather detailed ml post, but it's already solved for logs uploaded since late yesterday | 14:30 |
| roman_g | fungi oh, that's nice | 14:30 |
| roman_g | Will then test today or on Monday | 14:31 |
| roman_g | Thank you, fungi ! | 14:31 |
| clarkb | oh I'm replying now too | 14:31 |
| clarkb | roman_g: fwiw what rax is doing is odd but not in contradiction to the rfcs | 14:31 |
| clarkb | particularly if you don't expect ever server to update as soon as the latest rfcs are published | 14:32 |
| fungi | yeah, entirely allowed by rfc 2616, i quoted the passage in my reply | 14:32 |
| clarkb | fungi: 7230 changes the must to a may | 14:32 |
| clarkb | but 7230 is only 5 years old (and we don't even have ipv6 everywhere yet so clearly these things move slowly) | 14:33 |
| roman_g | clarkb it's Safari, you know. Not really open source, pardon. | 14:33 |
| clarkb | roman_g: feel free to join us in running firefox :) | 14:33 |
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| fungi | or any actual free/libre open-source browser of your choice | 14:33 |
| roman_g | I'm on Firefox on work laptop, but occasionally use Safari from personal laptop. | 14:33 |
| roman_g | I guess if I could send a report to Apple. | 14:34 |
| fungi | my wife has ended up running firefox on her macbook because safari seems to crash, grind to a halt or start consuming 100% of cpu on a variety of websites she frequents | 14:34 |
| roman_g | RFC 7231 section 3.1.2.2 [5] says: "sender that applied the encodings MUST generate a Content-Encoding header field" <- field, not fields | 14:35 |
| clarkb | roman_g: yes but 7230 and 2616 describe how fields with the same name are combined | 14:35 |
| fungi | must generate a field doesn't preclude generating more than one | 14:36 |
| fungi | just that it can't be fewer than one | 14:36 |
| fungi | (i.e., 0) | 14:36 |
| clarkb | if you have more than one they are combined and comma delimited | 14:36 |
| clarkb | 2616 requires you do this | 14:36 |
| clarkb | 7230 only says you may | 14:36 |
| clarkb | (its odd that they relaxed that, but I'm sure they had their reasons) | 14:36 |
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| clarkb | considering firefox and chrom* both exhibit this behavior I'll take it that my reading of the rfc isn't completely wrong | 14:37 |
| fungi | well, what 2616 really says is that appending the values of each of the headers to a list when parsing them must be treated the same as if they were provided as multiple list values in a single header | 14:40 |
| fungi | and i guess 7230 allows the behavior there to be more ambiguous, for no clear reason i can see | 14:40 |
| clarkb | ya 7230 relaxes it a bit | 14:41 |
| fungi | at any rate, seems some browsers don't implement all of rfc 2616, and so we've found a convenient workaround to stop them from hitting bugs around this | 14:42 |
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| roman_g | clarkb thank you for the great solution. And thank you, fungi. | 14:44 |
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| roman_g | It's very nice to work with you. | 14:44 |
| clarkb | roman_g: https://8e92ab9dbce64be02399-6e69b28122178bb298c7327890cc2dcb.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/679132/5/check/build-openstack-releasenotes/97952ec/docs/ was built after the fix merged if you want to test it and inspect headers | 14:45 |
| clarkb | roman_g: mordred tested that for us on his safari install and it seemed to work for him | 14:45 |
| roman_g | Yes, found sample links in Gerrit change. Works for me perfectly. | 14:45 |
| roman_g | clarkb This one you have provided above also works. | 14:46 |
| roman_g | Great job! | 14:47 |
| clarkb | my best guess for why it happens on some index.html files but not others is it is size related | 14:49 |
| clarkb | if the size is over some threshold they compress if not already gzip compressed | 14:49 |
| clarkb | this is why the job root index.html passes through as is | 14:49 |
| clarkb | (they are small) | 14:49 |
| clarkb | but the docs index file is larger | 14:49 |
| clarkb | likely a good heuristic for keeping bw costs down, but need to check content type against more than just gzip | 14:50 |
| roman_g | Original html index file is 23469 bytes, zlib-compressed - 5833 bytes, and then that one zlib-compressed with gzip on top of it is 5856 bytes. | 14:53 |
| roman_g | So actually they are wasting CPU and a bit of bandwidth. | 14:53 |
| fungi | yeah, compressing already-compressed data is rarely a good choice | 14:54 |
| roman_g | I would still report it to Rackspace. The problem is not exclusively on OpenStack account, but affects others. | 14:55 |
| roman_g | And to Apple, of course – will try to search for their bug reports form/forum. | 14:56 |
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| roman_g | Who could highlight problem to Rackspace? | 14:57 |
| roman_g | Or has it been agreed that this wouldn't be done? | 14:57 |
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| fungi | if roman_g comes back, or reads scrollback, we have the ability to open trouble tickets but it's not really conducive to more generally reporting bugs we discover in their platform. we've usually had more luck just talking to folks who work on the product, though i don't personally know anyone maintaining the swift deployment there | 15:10 |
| fungi | (noting that this isn't really a bug in their platform, standards-wise, just an interoperability problem with some web browsers) | 15:11 |
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| fungi | also, i'd wager this behavior is being introduced by whatever cdn layer they've added. that's probably where they're applying "web acceleration" techniques like transparently compressing transfers (this is a common feature of web accelerator appliances), so quite likely not actually being done by their swift services directly | 15:22 |
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| roman_g | fungi yes, I've read scrollback, thanks. | 15:38 |
| roman_g | fungi I'd still call a bug an attempt to gzip already zlib'bed data. | 15:39 |
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