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| fungi | config-core: https://review.opendev.org/729804 would be nice to get in today, since https://review.opendev.org/729805 depends on it and has today's date embedded as the cut over. i'll coordinate with the release team on testing once it lands | 15:42 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I cannot do the attestation myself - just confirm it looks sane. Do you want infra-root to confirm? ^ | 15:56 |
| AJaeger | fungi: just gave +2, leave it to others to +A | 15:57 |
| fungi | i wouldn't block on that. it's signed by the previous cycle key anyway, as well as my personal key | 15:57 |
| fungi | thanks | 15:57 |
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| zbr | are we ok with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729543/ ? | 16:49 |
| clarkb | zbr: yes, it passes with the python3 change now so I'm good with it | 16:49 |
| zbr | is better this way, zero dependence on py2 | 16:50 |
| zbr | it may be easier if we can switch the bot to py35 first, at least so we can drop py37 from it. | 16:50 |
| clarkb | yes that was my unitial suggestion, just switch to the python3 that was available | 16:51 |
| clarkb | which the existing puppet change did aiui | 16:51 |
| zbr | last two days I worked on er container, it will quite nice when done, sadly i face bugs in various places. | 16:53 |
| zbr | and the gerritlib tests are... | 16:54 |
| clarkb | yup the container will be an improvement too, but I think we can separate dropping python27 from e-r from replacing puppet. | 16:54 |
| zbr | yes, with many small steps we will progress faster | 16:54 |
| zbr | which other consumers we have of gerritlib, other than er? | 16:55 |
| clarkb | zuul and jeepyb I think | 16:55 |
| clarkb | some of fungi's stats tooling may use it too | 16:55 |
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| zbr | in absence of its own unittests I am considering that doing more cross checking would be better, but we must test with different python versions | 16:56 |
| fungi | nope, everything i write just uses the gerrit rest api | 16:57 |
| zbr | ..., and my goal was to test the ssh part | 16:57 |
| zbr | rest is easy to mock test | 16:58 |
| fungi | yeah, elastic-recheck needs it for the event stream, there is no rest api equivalent | 16:58 |
| zbr | webhooks are the "equivalent" | 16:59 |
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| zbr | don't we feed the event stream to a database? | 17:00 |
| fungi | right, there is a sort of pollable event queue feature going into gerrit 3.x to accompany the checks api work | 17:00 |
| zbr | we could replace the stream with queries. | 17:00 |
| fungi | feed the event stream to what database where? | 17:01 |
| zbr | in the past i had a stript that dumped all events into a mongodb | 17:01 |
| fungi | or are you thinking of our mqtt broker? | 17:01 |
| fungi | (not a database) | 17:01 |
| zbr | i did this for both jenkins and gerrit, is couple of lines of bash to implement such service. | 17:01 |
| fungi | i'm not entirely sure what you're asking. we don't currently dump the gerrit event stream into a relational database anywhere | 17:02 |
| zbr | once you do this, you can start to query the database | 17:02 |
| fungi | or did you mean elastic-recheck should start doing that? | 17:02 |
| zbr | well, not relational, needs to be a JSON one. | 17:02 |
| fungi | what's a json database? | 17:02 |
| zbr | document based database | 17:03 |
| fungi | you mean a key-value store? | 17:03 |
| zbr | yep | 17:03 |
| fungi | ahh, okay, i'd never heard that called a json database | 17:03 |
| fungi | how would you key it? by event timestamp? | 17:03 |
| zbr | in fact I read that prosgres added support for that, but I never had time to look into. | 17:04 |
| clarkb | I don't think the solution to e-r running on python3 is to completely rearchitect it with another database | 17:04 |
| clarkb | (it already talks to a 6TB datastore of job logs) | 17:04 |
| zbr | clarkb: hmm, maybe we can feed that stream directly to Elasticsearch and avoid talking with gerrit. | 17:06 |
| clarkb | I mean we probably could but what does that gain us? | 17:06 |
| clarkb | I thought the goal here was to drop python2 support in e-r | 17:07 |
| clarkb | now we're talking about essentially erwriting it | 17:07 |
| zbr | to be clear: i am not proposing it, i only raised the question. | 17:07 |
| fungi | honestly i liked the idea of moving stuff to firehose.o.o because mosquitto provides a buffer and the mqtt protocol gives you subscriber filtering capabilities | 17:10 |
| fungi | but that comes at additional complexity | 17:10 |
| fungi | at the cost of additional complexity i mean | 17:10 |
| clarkb | ya I think if we do a gerrit event feed it should be generic and not e-r specific, then adapt e-r to that | 17:10 |
| clarkb | I'm not sure a database is the right system for that | 17:11 |
| fungi | right, places where i've seen databases used as an interface to an event queue have always seemed like an abuse of database concepts, but that could just be a prejudice on my part | 17:12 |
| zbr | depends what you want to do with the data, with a database you can build quite nice stats/queries about what is happening, especially for long term stuff (months, quarters, years) | 17:13 |
| fungi | that assumes you can keep that data indefinitely | 17:13 |
| fungi | in high-volume cases what you need is something like a ring buffer to be able to discard or age out the older events | 17:13 |
| fungi | and sufficient i/o to be able to do that under inbound load | 17:13 |
| zbr | not all events are created equal, some would expire quickly, but some not. | 17:13 |
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