Monday, 2013-11-11

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openstackgerritHaomeng,Wang proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Enable created_at/updated_at for port-show/chassis-show  https://review.openstack.org/5399103:00
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openstackgerritHaomeng,Wang proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Supporting both Python 2 and Python 3 with six  https://review.openstack.org/5577503:27
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GheRiveromorning all07:37
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Haomengmorning GheRivero08:31
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SpamapSTonyBurn_: welcome :)09:11
SpamapSTonyBurn_: regarding non PXE boot methods, AFAIK that is not something in the immediate road map for Ironic, but I'm sure it would be welcomed.09:12
SpamapSTonyBurn_: My employer, HP, has a special not-standard way to boot things just like Dell, so I'm sure at some point they'll want to push that (though IMO, they should not, and we should all just use GPXE)09:13
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TonyBurn_SpamapS, yea each vendor has its own method of achieveing it, tis the same for cisco UCS09:15
TonyBurn_Sorry I know nothing about the Ironic codebase, but I was hoping it could be modular enough for use to just create vendor specific interfaces09:16
SpamapSTonyBurn_: It might be.. I've not been closely involved with that part.09:16
TonyBurn_:) I'm not a coder by trade, I'm just a server engineer so have the requirements only at this point09:17
HaomengSpamapS: I think our Ironic support mult-vendor extensions/plugins09:17
TonyBurn_I know enough python to get by, but obviously not to the standard to someone who does it day in day out, so was hoping to chip into this stream a little09:17
Haomengcurrent our Ironic support stand PXE I think09:18
Haomengif we have requirement to support non-stand barematel boot, we can raise blueprint to track09:19
HaomengIronic just a framework for bm, and by default, it support stand PXE09:19
Haomenghope answer you09:19
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Transform print statement to print function  https://review.openstack.org/5537809:20
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TonyBurn_thanks for that Haomeng :)09:26
TonyBurn_I'm travelling over the coming 2 days but after that I will be available to look into what is involved with PXE-less boot to Dell PE hosts.  I have done it in the past with the reference python scripts using wsman that dell have provided09:27
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romchegMorning folks09:45
max_loburg'morning romcheg :)09:47
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add driver-list  https://review.openstack.org/5368310:03
lucasagomesmorning romcheg max_lobur :)10:03
romchegMorning lucasagomes. How's it going?10:05
lucasagomesromcheg, ah good buddy, just a little bit cold10:06
lucasagomesI think it was the weather change10:06
romchegI think so10:07
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Deal with unicode strings  https://review.openstack.org/5494210:28
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romchegIronic team: http://cl.ly/image/3y1y2u3i1t1R :)10:46
GheRivero:)10:47
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Comply with new hacking requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5581910:48
lucasagomesromcheg, lol man!10:49
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Haomengmorning, romcheg, max_lobur, lucasagomes,GheRivero :)11:02
GheRiveromornign *11:03
Haomeng:)11:04
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add driver-list  https://review.openstack.org/5368311:05
lucasagomesHaomeng, hey buddy! morning11:06
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romchegMorning Haomeng11:06
max_loburg'morning lucasagomes, Haomeng =)11:06
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Haomeng:)11:07
openstackgerritHaomeng,Wang proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Supporting both Python 2 and Python 3 with six  https://review.openstack.org/5577511:08
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Move six import to related third party imports  https://review.openstack.org/5582111:12
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GheRiveroI really need to get more sleep. Not thinking properly yet :/ Stupid Je tLag11:31
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Rename variables called 'fixtures'  https://review.openstack.org/5584113:14
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Replace __metaclass__  https://review.openstack.org/5491314:39
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Guest45586Hi, can I please ask an ironic question ? I wanted to ask about the role of the chassis object in ironic data model.14:50
Guest45586It seems to me, from the sources, that its not actually being used buring baremetal operation. At least not by the default drivers supplied.14:51
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Replace __metaclass__  https://review.openstack.org/5491314:53
lucasagomesGuest45586, yes, in the moment it's just a way to group/organize the nodes14:53
jbjohnsoFor reference, I haven't been following along14:53
jbjohnsobut I personally wish the industry had used the word 'enclosure' instead14:54
jbjohnsoweird nitpicky thing...14:54
Guest45586I wanted to ask whether chassis serves as a place holder to be used,  maybe , by other extendable drivers14:54
jbjohnsoon pyghmi side, I at least hope to provide enclosure level operators14:55
jbjohnsoin a bladecenter setup, all operations would be enclosure level14:55
jbjohnsoin a flex setup though, some configuration and hardware address control are enclosure level as well as power and cooling status, but pretty much everything else is 'node' level14:56
jbjohnsoin  nextscale setup, like flex but without the hardware address control14:56
jbjohnso(the ibm view of what enclosures do that nodes will not)14:57
jbjohnsoI imagine it's the common pattern14:57
Guest45586jbjohnso, does ironic supports flex setup ? is that something planed to be done for the future ?14:57
jbjohnsoflex could be just like bladecenter, but I like going as direct as a technology allows14:57
jbjohnsoGuest45586, ironic currently is generic enough to support any x86 server configuration that supports IPMI, which in IBM portfolio only excludes bladecenter14:58
Guest45586OK.14:58
jbjohnsoI have not been asked to do the bladecenter support yet, though the codebase for enclosure level cooling and power would be common between Flex and Bladecenter14:59
Guest45586I see.14:59
jbjohnsospeaking of hardware management, as I go toward sensors, I'm interested in whether a sensor object will be long lived and reused15:00
jbjohnsoto get things like periodic sensor data15:00
jbjohnsoor the object will go out of scope and recreated later in ironic usage of it15:00
jbjohnsoI'm hoping the former, as then a scheme I want to use to avoid some disk real estate would pan out15:01
Guest45586jbjohnso, I have another question to ask.15:01
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Guest45586I can see that passing cpu/ram during bare metal node creation is mandatory. so that scheduler will properly choose the node to perform the provisioning.15:03
Guest45586I am trying to find the same for ironic node-create ..15:04
Guest45586-p <key=value>, --properties <key=value>15:04
Guest45586not sure that key id servers ram/ cpu.15:04
Guest45586Am I missing something ?15:04
jbjohnsoWould have to ask other people, thus far I've been underneath ironic and not so much using ironic as of yet15:05
Guest45586that --> *what15:05
Guest45586ok..15:06
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5585415:12
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5443015:14
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NobodyCamgood morning iRonic15:36
linggaogood morning15:37
linggaoNo15:37
linggaoo15:37
linggaob15:37
NobodyCamlol15:37
NobodyCammorning linggao15:37
linggaoGood Morning NobodyCam.15:37
linggaoI cannot type, it is monday :)15:37
linggaoNobodyCam, welcome back. how was Hong Kong?15:37
NobodyCamoh gawd yes...15:37
NobodyCamExecpt for getting sick one day... it was great15:38
NobodyCam:)15:38
NobodyCamwe go the hoodies15:39
NobodyCam*got15:39
linggaoSorry to hear that you were sick.15:39
NobodyCam:-P15:39
NobodyCamit happens15:39
linggaoAre you going to send us the hoodies if we give you the address?15:40
rloomorning NobodyCam and linggao.15:42
NobodyCamyes .... If you know you didn't get your hoodie at the conf please send me your address. I will need to track down the hoodies here in the states. But I will, and then I will get them sent15:42
linggaomorning rloo.15:42
linggaothanks NobodyCam.15:43
NobodyCammorning rloo :)15:43
NobodyCamromcheg: great picture!!!!15:44
rloolinggao: the hoodies are very nice, and fit you if you can wear a mens L :-)15:45
NobodyCamlol yes we end up with 1 size15:45
romchegMorning NobodyCam, rloo, linggao15:45
NobodyCam:)15:45
rloomorning romcheg!15:45
NobodyCammorning romcheg15:45
linggaomorning romcheg15:45
romchegNobodyCam: I sent you, lucasagomes and devananda and email about PyCon Ukraine. They called for papers15:46
lucasagomesmorning NobodyCam romcheg15:47
linggaorloo, lol. I wear woman's M.15:47
lucasagomesrloo, morning :)15:47
lucasagomesromcheg, yea thanks, I will take a look whether I can go or not15:47
NobodyCammorning lucasagomes15:47
linggaomorning lucasagomes.15:47
lucasagomesNobodyCam, I think jenkins is leaking updates from stable branchs to master again15:47
lucasagomes-.-15:47
rloolinggao: yes, well, my husband loves the hoodie :-)15:47
NobodyCam:-p15:48
linggaorloo, that's a good idear.15:48
NobodyCamI was thinking of trying to srink it15:48
lucasagomes:P15:49
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lucasagomeswash it 10x with hot water15:49
lucasagomesmight work15:49
NobodyCamlucasagomes: :)15:49
NobodyCamand dry on supper hot15:49
NobodyCamso nice to have a laptop back15:50
NobodyCammorning GheRivero15:51
romcheglucasagomes, NobodyCam what do you think about my comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55775/ ?15:51
GheRiveromorning all15:54
linggaomorning GheRiero.15:54
NobodyCamromcheg: Haomeng listed it as partial fix for bug 124988615:55
NobodyCamso I'm ok with it not being complete15:55
GheRiveroromcheg: about your comment, I agree with you. A more general approach should be on the radar. But I will pass this one15:56
NobodyCamSeems I need to go walkies15:56
NobodyCambrb15:56
lucasagomesyea, I also have a patch updating the syntax of the __metaclass__ to use six.add_metaclass, I'm fine with small patches fixing small pieces and bits15:56
* lucasagomes have to link that bug in my patch15:57
romchegNobodyCam, GheRivero: Ok then let's make it in several patches. I'm going to change the sign then :)15:58
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Replace __metaclass__  https://review.openstack.org/5491316:00
NobodyCamok back from walkies16:13
jbjohnsowell, I'm going to do content indexed SDR caching to memory for now16:15
jbjohnsoand if consumers want read sensor to be really fast, they'll just have to reuse the sensor objects16:16
jbjohnsoin xCAT, I cache to disk, but I think it safer to SDR cache to memory with session lifetime the indicator of applicability16:17
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NobodyCamneo_: BAck from hong Kong now.. just wanted to check on how your POC went?16:24
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NobodyCamlol best comment sofar: mordred > it's lke I spent a week with my hands replaced by eggplants16:45
openstackgerritramesh proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix error handling in ssh driver  https://review.openstack.org/5571917:02
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openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Reorder imports  https://review.openstack.org/5582117:15
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Required fields on nodes  https://review.openstack.org/5366417:23
GheRiverolucasagomes: have you started with the tftp ha improvement?17:28
lucasagomesGheRivero, not yet, I need first to write a blueprint for it17:29
lucasagomesGheRivero, also it's something to do after we get ironic out of the incubation17:29
GheRiverook. I'm just thinking about an easier solution, but need to test it first/check validity17:31
lucasagomesand also I've to take a closer look at the manila project, see how ready is it (not that we are going to use it in the first release, but the project will do exactly what we need for the tftp with shared fs)17:31
lucasagomesGheRivero, shared filesystem?17:31
GheRiveromuch more simple, but maybe a bit 'dirty'17:32
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lucasagomesI see17:33
GheRiverohaving a tftp-proxy to hijack all request, get images on the fly if needed (being small, shouldn't be a long delay), and send the request back to the tftp server17:33
GheRiverono need to share anything among servers, images always updated, request can go to any server17:34
NobodyCamGheRivero: there are more then images in the tftp dirs17:40
lucasagomesGheRivero, sounds hmm hacky hehe17:40
lucasagomesyes there's the configuration files17:40
NobodyCamlucasagomes: :) that was my thought17:41
NobodyCamthou it would to kinda slick to handle the tftp dynamicly. (ie. no dir at all)17:42
GheRiverothe conf. files can be created on the fly17:42
GheRiverobut yes. I need to do some test, and see if it could be feasible17:42
openstackgerritramesh proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Fix error handling in ssh driver  https://review.openstack.org/5571917:42
lucasagomes+1 yes, need some tests. Also, it's can get kinda complex because we also will need to have a map to see what needs to be booted for that request (deploy ramdisk/kernel or final ramdisk/kernel)17:46
lucasagomesand it would be really hard to debug a problem using that methodology17:46
lucasagomesand even if there's something that needs to be booted (a request coming from a node that is not even registered in ironic17:47
NobodyCamwe would need lots of detal in the log to debug17:47
jbjohnsofyi17:47
NobodyCamI can see it hafing its own log17:47
jbjohnsoin xCAT's 'xnba' mode, no configuration, kernel, or initrd  is tftp served17:47
jbjohnsowell, except for windows17:48
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jbjohnsoas an additional fact, here's the size of the completely encrypted/assured boot payload that is delivered via virtual usb: 674 Kibibytes17:49
GheRiverofor the map request, tftp is pretty simple, so we can have mac and file request easilly (everything is plain text)17:49
jbjohnsowell, at least in the scripted install test I did...17:49
jbjohnsowith esxi as payload then, but you get the general idea17:50
jbjohnsoNobodyCam, so that would be my answer17:50
jbjohnsoforget tftp, move the bare minimum to tftp, move all interesting bits to http(s)17:51
jbjohnsohttps gets fun and interesting though if you also want to do secureboot, but that bridge only appears after you cross efi boot support bridge anyhow17:51
jbjohnsoalso, forget dhcp (well, other than in PXE case, the expectation that *some* usable ip scheme will fall out of it17:53
jbjohnsofocus on the very very small chunk of stuff that is specific to early bootloader stuff (no more than hundreds of kilobytes)17:53
jbjohnsomake that injectable either via PXE or remote media17:53
jbjohnsoand defer everything else to common http server providing17:54
jbjohnsoin pxe case, divorce addressing from boot control17:54
jbjohnsoin fact, you can divorce IPL addressing from subsequent addressing scenario too17:55
jbjohnsothough to do the latter, you'd need custom config embedded in individualized loader executables17:56
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jbjohnsonow the question is whether anyone cares...18:02
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NobodyCamjust checking we are not having a meeting today is my understanding correct?18:47
rlooNobodyCam: yes, I believe in the previous meeting, this meeting was cancelled.18:52
NobodyCam:)18:52
NobodyCamya agenda has the 18 down as next one so just making sure18:53
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NobodyCamwalkies brb19:07
openstackgerritramesh proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Fix cmd usage msg for ironic port-create  https://review.openstack.org/5589819:09
linggaook, anyone can help on this? http://mynode:6385/v1/ is working. But http://mynode:6385/v1/nodes gives me "Authentication required" error.19:20
linggaothis is from a browser.19:21
NobodyCamlinggao: your hitting the api via browser?19:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Comply with new hacking requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5581919:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Reorder imports  https://review.openstack.org/5582119:27
NobodyCamlinggao: take a look at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard around line 11719:30
linggaoNobodyCam, the curl command gives the same error.19:32
NobodyCamalso be sure all the OS_* vars are set19:32
NobodyCamlinggao: are you using the dib method19:33
NobodyCamcan you source the stackrc file19:33
GheRiverouhm... with the last automatic jenkins global requirements update, the hacking one is overwritting. Should we wait for another auto update, or do it manually? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54430/19:33
NobodyCamGheRivero: I think lucas had questions about that too19:34
linggaoNobodyCam, I use devstack to install the openstack19:35
linggaoironic node-list command works, but curl does not19:37
NobodyCamcli set the OS_vars to defaults19:37
NobodyCamI think your env needs them set too19:38
linggaoI have these set:19:39
linggao  export OS_NO_CACHE=true19:39
linggao  export OS_TENANT_NAME=admin19:39
linggao  export OS_USERNAME=admin19:39
linggao  export OS_PASSWORD='password'19:39
linggao  export OS_AUTH_URL="http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0/"19:39
linggao  export OS_AUTH_STRATEGY=keystone19:39
linggao  export SERVICE_TOKEN=admin19:39
linggao  export SERVICE_ENDPOINT=http://127.0.0.1:35357/v2.0/19:39
linggao  export KEYSTONE_ADMIN_TOKEN=keystone_admin_token19:39
NobodyCamhere is what I set: http://paste.openstack.org/show/pB7OzB4lNjCTqRRLx0IG/19:39
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linggaoNobodyCam, still does not work.19:45
NobodyCamhumm19:46
linggaohere is the error from ironic: http://paste.openstack.org/show/51740/19:47
NobodyCamlinggao: err seems to be looking for auth token19:48
linggaoNobodyCam, do you know which env defines the auth token?19:52
NobodyCamlinggao: try unseting KEYSTONE_ADMIN_TOKEN and SERVICE_TOKEN19:54
linggaolet me try...19:56
linggaosame error19:59
NobodyCam:(20:00
NobodyCambut cli works from same node20:00
linggaoyes, that puzzles me.20:03
NobodyCamanything help in the api logs?20:04
linggaowhere can I find the api log?20:05
NobodyCamhumm I know where the dib element puts them20:07
NobodyCamlinggao: according to https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ironic#L205 you should have a screen for it20:11
linggaoyes, the paste I showe you is from the screen. http://paste.openstack.org/show/51740/20:12
linggaoNobodyCam, I also get the same error for nova api.20:14
NobodyCamya I expected that one20:15
NobodyCaminorder for me to get nova to talk to Ironic I came up with this horiable hack. http://paste.openstack.org/show/ej6eqEJjpE4GNdwrBsD8/20:17
NobodyCamis there any thing I am setting there that you don't have set in your env?20:18
NobodyCamnote your password and endpoints will differ from what I have20:18
linggaoNobodyCam, where do you set those up?20:20
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NobodyCamthat is taken from the nova virt ironic driver.py file20:22
linggaoI see.20:22
NobodyCamwhich only lives in reviews at this point20:22
NobodyCamthat was me exploring the driver20:23
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linggaoThe interesting thing is that I could do the ironic REST APIs from the browser before as well as curl. then something messed up my system I had to reinstall openstack20:23
NobodyCambut I needed to set all of those to get it talking20:23
NobodyCamcheck your env and see if I have set any thing you dont20:24
NobodyCamnot i use os_user, env will have OS_USER..20:25
NobodyCamnot = note20:25
linggaoI do not have OS_SERVICE_TYPE='baremetal'20:28
linggaoOS_ENDPOINT_TYPE='public'20:28
linggaoI added them and still same error. Maybe I should restart keystone or ironic api?20:28
linggaoafter the change?20:28
NobodyCami don't think so20:29
NobodyCamnot if the cli is still working20:29
* NobodyCam thinks he need to spin up a devstack version20:35
NobodyCamlinggao: is this blocking you in anyway? (ie can I put it off a bit, fighting with my NAS atm)20:36
linggaoNobodyCam,thanks for the help. go ahead with what your tasks.20:37
linggaoI'll google a bit.20:38
NobodyCam:)20:40
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NobodyCamlol does formating another 1 tb disk and replacing the old one count as a "FIX" lol21:26
linggaoNobodyCam, FYI. I commented out auth_strategy = 'keystone', this will at least keep me going.21:34
linggaofrom ironic.conf21:35
NobodyCam:)21:38
NobodyCamjust turn off the auth :)21:39
NobodyCamahh pushing 85g over wifi so much fun21:41
linggaoyes. at least I can test the urls now21:49
NobodyCam:)21:50
linggaothanks for the help though.21:50
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