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| GheRivero | morning all | 06:49 |
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| takadayuiko | Hi, GheRivero! | 06:54 |
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| dtantsur | Morning Ironic | 07:37 |
| takadayuiko | dtantsur, Hi! | 07:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/python-ironicclient: Add keystone v3 CLI support https://review.openstack.org/111175 | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/ironic: WIP: DRAC introspect hardware https://review.openstack.org/126257 | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Roman Prykhodchenko proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Refactoring for Ironic policy https://review.openstack.org/126265 | 11:30 |
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| romcheg | Good morning/evening Ironic! | 11:37 |
| romcheg | ^ is a preview. When I come home from work I'll fix it and write more tests. | 11:38 |
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| dtantsur | romcheg, morning, good job! | 11:44 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: I like removing code :) | 11:54 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: *if after all it's still doing the same job :) | 11:54 |
| dtantsur | :) | 11:54 |
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| romcheg | dtantsur: Do you want to go to PyCon PL? :) | 13:11 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: we could meet and drink some beer there. | 13:12 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: … I mean… discuss openstack | 13:12 |
| romcheg | http://pl.pycon.org/2014/en/ | 13:12 |
| dtantsur | romcheg, 16-19 Oct? oh that's bad, I already have plans for these dates... | 13:15 |
| romcheg | :( | 13:17 |
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| viktors | romcheg: as for pycon - do you suppose to visit this - http://ua.pycon.org/ ? | 13:41 |
| viktors | or maybe someone else from this chat will be there? | 13:42 |
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| dtantsur | PyCon in Lviv, mmm.... :) pity I can't be there | 13:44 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: You can ;) | 13:44 |
| viktors | dtantsur: why not? | 13:45 |
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| dtantsur | 1. the summit; 2. it's not the best time to appear in Ukraine with Russian passport :) | 13:46 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: I previously called border control and they said that if you fly from Czech Republic with a ticket to PyCon and an accommodation booking it won't be a problem | 13:46 |
| romcheg | We have a bunch of folks from Moscow in Kharkiv office right now :) | 13:46 |
| viktors | dtantsur: well, we supposed to go to summit directly from Lviv | 13:46 |
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| dtantsur | my air tickets are already booked :( | 13:47 |
| viktors | dtantsur: oh :( | 13:47 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: November is not a good time for visiting Lviv I suppose but we can go there if the weather is fine. | 13:52 |
| romcheg | dtantsur: No one eats you because of your Russian passport, it's only on Russian TV :) | 13:52 |
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| viktors | dtantsur: confirm :) | 13:53 |
| dtantsur | well, I'm not judging by Russian TV, rather by words of my wife's grandparents that live in Lviv | 13:53 |
| * dtantsur hasn't watched Russian TV for years now | 13:54 | |
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| romcheg | dtantsur: You could have some problems with border control a few months ago when a lot of pro-Russian bandits were coming through border control, now it's almost not the case | 13:55 |
| dtantsur | well, good to hear, will see then :) | 13:55 |
| romcheg | Unless you carry a mobile SAM :) | 13:55 |
| romcheg | Now those guys have part of south-eastern border to cross, they don't need border control anymore :) | 13:56 |
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| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic | 14:27 |
| romcheg | Morning NobodyCam! | 14:27 |
| sambetts | Afternoon NobodyCam! | 14:27 |
| NobodyCam | morning romcheg sambetts :) | 14:28 |
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| NobodyCam | how was your weekend? | 14:28 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, morning | 14:29 |
| NobodyCam | morning lucasagomes :) | 14:29 |
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| GheRivero | morning all | 14:32 |
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| NobodyCam | morning GheRivero :) | 14:32 |
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| lucasagomes | GheRivero, morning | 14:35 |
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| NobodyCam | anyone have any items for the agenda | 14:55 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, I may have one based on the last comment by devananda on #99426 | 14:58 |
| lucasagomes | haven't added to the agenda yet tho | 14:58 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 15:01 |
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| devananda | morning, all | 15:14 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, morning | 15:14 |
| NobodyCam | good morning devananda | 15:15 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, have a min? I was thinking about start https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/new-boot-interface | 15:15 |
| lucasagomes | do I need to write a simple spec for it first? or I can go ahead and write the full one? | 15:15 |
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| lucasagomes | I don't think people would oppose to the idea of splitting the deploy interface into boot and deploy interfaces | 15:16 |
| lucasagomes | and it's needed to pave the work to the ipxe driver, so I wanna tackle it asap | 15:16 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: I think full is fine. I dont think anyone's objected to that refactoring | 15:16 |
| devananda | and yea, sooner is good | 15:16 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ack, cool yeah I will write the spec and try to put some code asap for that | 15:17 |
| lucasagomes | cheers | 15:17 |
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| JayF | devananda: curious if we want to ask ttx to move one of our design summit sections... IDK about jroll's talk, but I know one of our design summit slots is right over the top of mine and JoshNang's talk on Decom, which I'm assuming will be very popular among ironic folk | 15:36 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, http://paste.openstack.org/show/119021/ re ironic send sensor data bug | 15:44 |
| devananda | JayF: yes | 15:52 |
| devananda | JayF: can you send me links to those talk slots? | 15:52 |
| NobodyCam | brb | 15:53 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: oh, I see. thanks | 15:54 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, np | 15:54 |
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| devananda | JayF: I only see one of yours at 11am Tuesday. lemme know if there are others and I'll coordinate with ttx | 16:06 |
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| devananda | nm, found it | 16:06 |
| romcheg | Morning devananda! | 16:06 |
| NobodyCam | morning romcheg :) | 16:07 |
| devananda | romcheg: hi! o/ | 16:07 |
| romcheg | NobodyCam: Morning 2nd time :-P | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Roman Prykhodchenko proposed a change to openstack/ironic: Refactoring for Ironic policy https://review.openstack.org/126265 | 16:07 |
| romcheg | So as I promised ^ finished that to make the tests pass :) | 16:08 |
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| lucasagomes | romcheg, w00t, will take a look soon thanks | 16:12 |
| romcheg | lucasagomes: there's one place I think should be done thread safe there, but I'd like to see your comments on that | 16:14 |
| lucasagomes | cool | 16:14 |
| lucasagomes | I will take a look when I get some time here | 16:14 |
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| devananda | JayF: how do you feel about moving your talk back a few hours? | 16:21 |
| NobodyCam | _LE is LOG.execption or LOG.error? | 16:28 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: I have wondered. I have only see _LE described for ERROR, but I haven't seen anything for exceptions: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html#examples | 16:31 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: and I've seen folks use _LE for exceptions. | 16:31 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: if you scroll down that page, you'll see an example with _LE for exceptions: LOG.exception(_LE('There was an error.')) | 16:33 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: ya | 16:37 |
| NobodyCam | ok was looking at lines 510 & 520 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126265/2/ironic/openstack/common/policy.py | 16:37 |
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| dlaube | g'morning | 16:38 |
| NobodyCam | good morning dlaube | 16:38 |
| dtantsur | folks, maybe you know, is eventlet _required_ for anything using our client? | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | (and morning/afternoon to everyone I didn't notice) | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-ironicclient: Stop using intersphinx https://review.openstack.org/126156 | 16:40 |
| devananda | dtantsur: i dont see why the client should need eventlet | 16:41 |
| devananda | rloo: that sounds like we're misusing _LE | 16:41 |
| dtantsur | hmm... ack thanks | 16:41 |
| rloo | devananda: misusing in what way? | 16:41 |
| devananda | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html | 16:42 |
| devananda | _LE = ERROR | 16:42 |
| devananda | oh | 16:42 |
| rloo | devananda: yes, but they don't show anything for exceptions, and then they have an example that uses _LE for exceptions. | 16:42 |
| devananda | rloo: ok, never mind. the doc uses both ... | 16:42 |
| rloo | devananda: I suppose we should ask whoever to update/clarify that page. | 16:43 |
| devananda | rloo: or we follow what the page indicates and use it for both | 16:44 |
| rloo | devananda: if the intent is to use for both, I think it would help if that page explicitly showed that at the top. | 16:44 |
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| dtantsur | devananda, also: any ideas on whether get_client (not client itself) is thread-safe? | 16:46 |
| devananda | dtantsur: not sure off hand | 16:49 |
| dtantsur | ah ok.. | 16:50 |
| JayF | devananda: I don't personally have a preference, have to check with JoshNang too | 16:51 |
| JayF | devananda: also jroll has a talk but idk when that's scheduled | 16:51 |
| devananda | JayF: jroll's is tuesday, no confilct with our design sessions | 16:52 |
| JayF | I am very OK with moving the decom talk if that helps, as long as JoshNang is on board | 16:53 |
| JoshNang | JayF: devananda no complains here | 16:53 |
| JoshNang | *complaints | 16:53 |
| devananda | cool | 16:53 |
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| * dtantsur afk till the meeting | 17:35 | |
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| dlaube | Hey guys, can anyone point me in the right direction as to why my ironic calls are failing with "Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials"? When I run with debug, it appears that keystore auth is working properly now (I think) since I'm receiving a token. Looks like when the token is provided to the ironic API, it throws an HTTP 401. | 17:41 |
| dlaube | more details at http://pastie.org/private/fa3fsj2fgiatusqlpgz1mw | 17:41 |
| jroll | dlaube: check the roles for that keystone user | 17:43 |
| dlaube | checking now | 17:44 |
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| * JayF WTB log messages that when authorization failed, says "you have roles x,y,z, you need role banana" | 17:44 | |
| dlaube | hehehe | 17:44 |
| dlaube | http://pastie.org/private/vhbyf0qqcqsxtmkcr4j1oq | 17:44 |
| devananda | JayF: thanks, now I want a banana | 17:45 |
| dlaube | will confirm admin and tenant vars in ironic.conf | 17:45 |
| jroll | devananda: aren't you glad bananas are easy to acquire? | 17:45 |
| dlaube | I have admin_user=ironic and admin_tenant_name=service in my ironic.conf | 17:45 |
| jroll | dlaube: also check policy.json, but it should have role:admin | 17:45 |
| JayF | devananda: ever been to France? Did some research and found something that basically said France is the worst Euro nation to travel to if you can't eat gluten | 17:45 |
| * jroll throws a baguette at JayF | 17:46 | |
| dlaube | jroll: policy.json inside my ironic dir, or the keystone dir? | 17:46 |
| Shrews | gluten-free baguette? | 17:46 |
| JayF | They exist, and I had a hoagie on one this weekend \o/ | 17:46 |
| jroll | dlaube: whatever ironic is using, there's a path to it in the ironic conf afaik | 17:46 |
| jroll | huh. | 17:46 |
| jroll | seems wrong. | 17:46 |
| jroll | like, sacrelig | 17:47 |
| JayF | jroll: http://udisglutenfree.com/products/french-baguettes/ | 17:47 |
| jroll | so so so wrong | 17:47 |
| JayF | jroll: in the freezer section of your local overpriced organic grocer | 17:47 |
| jroll | frozen baguettes | 17:47 |
| jroll | again, so much wrong here | 17:47 |
| jroll | if it's older than 2 hours, it doesn't exist to me | 17:48 |
| dlaube | I bet this is a problem… my policy.json -> http://pastie.org/private/vzib3rbjanypfcfvx4kbra | 17:48 |
| jroll | dlaube: that looks sane, role:admin should match just fine | 17:48 |
| jroll | I now have no idea :) | 17:49 |
| jroll | although! | 17:49 |
| jroll | maybe make sure ironic is auth'ing to keystone properly | 17:49 |
| jroll | sorry, I think that's the key | 17:49 |
| jroll | check out ironic-api log | 17:49 |
| jroll | s | 17:49 |
| * jroll should have known that | 17:49 | |
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| devananda | JayF: you're correct | 17:51 |
| devananda | JayF: we're going to die. painfully. | 17:51 |
| devananda | JayF: also, they have AMAZING wine, so at least we have one gluten free source of calories. | 17:51 |
| jroll | hahahaha | 17:51 |
| JayF | devananda: I forsee lots of "steak with no sauce whatsoever because you certainly started it with a roux" orders | 17:51 |
| dlaube | jroll: good call! I didnt think to look there since I saw the request being made to the ironic api in general | 17:52 |
| devananda | well... i may be exaggerating in some way ... | 17:52 |
| dlaube | looks like its trying to use SSL even though I've specified plain http | 17:52 |
| dlaube | http://pastie.org/private/bnmhxugiogucpmjwjuat1w | 17:52 |
| devananda | JayF: even soup will be a challenge. and forget pre-shredded cheese on your salad, bc there is often flour as an anti-caking agent. | 17:52 |
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| dlaube | my ironic.conf has auth_uri=http://198.x.x.202:5000/ but perhaps I need to set #auth_protocol=http ? | 17:54 |
| jroll | dlaube: weird, I think auth_uri is maybe deprecated? | 17:54 |
| JayF | devananda: I'm dairy free nowadays too, so at least that's not a total loss | 17:54 |
| dlaube | hmm.. | 17:54 |
| jroll | no, auth_uri is the new thing | 17:55 |
| jroll | or identity_uri maybe | 17:55 |
| dlaube | jroll: i'll play with #insecure=false and #auth_protocol=https | 17:55 |
| jroll | hard to tell :/ | 17:55 |
| jroll | dlaube: if your keystone server doesn't serve with ssl, that won't work :P | 17:55 |
| dlaube | im going to try auth_protocol=http | 17:56 |
| jroll | dlaube: I vote use identity_uri=http://198.x.x.202:5000/ | 17:56 |
| dlaube | oh ok, I'll try this first —^ | 17:56 |
| jroll | looking at https://github.com/openstack/keystonemiddleware/blob/master/keystonemiddleware/auth_token.py#L606 | 17:56 |
| devananda | JayF: hm. butter is also in everything. | 17:57 |
| JayF | devananda: butter isn't dairy, it's golden deliciousness | 17:57 |
| JayF | devananda: (I eat butter, cream, just not milk and soft cheese) | 17:57 |
| JayF | and it's more of a I-feel-better-if thing, not with gluten where if I eat it I would have prefered eating a hot coal | 17:58 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: just looking at the agenda? do you see any reason we should add DRAC to the drivers report area? | 17:59 |
| dlaube | jroll: looks like I needed to set auth_protocol=http as identity_uri did not work for me …but I'm currently playing around with ironic 0.1.2 | 18:01 |
| jroll | dlaube: weird... you mean ironic client 0.1.2 yes? | 18:01 |
| dlaube | yessir. have the new RCs dropped for the latest juno awesomeness or should I consider forking from master as I really start to get into ironic? | 18:02 |
| jroll | yeah, they're out | 18:02 |
| jroll | I mean, I believe in continuous deployment, but if releases are your thing, :) | 18:02 |
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| dlaube | sweet | 18:05 |
| dlaube | thanks jroll | 18:05 |
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| NobodyCam | brb | 18:08 |
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| NobodyCam | adam_g: still want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118700 on the agenda.. it landed a while ago. | 18:21 |
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| adam_g | NobodyCam, nah | 18:21 |
| adam_g | wonder how that got carried over | 18:21 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: did you want me to add #99426 to the agenda? | 18:24 |
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| NobodyCam | last chance to get your item on the agenda! | 18:44 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, oh sorry... hmm well I may leave it for the next because this week I will focus on the boot interface | 18:48 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: I add 99426 to Open Discussion | 18:51 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, cheers | 18:52 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 18:54 |
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| NobodyCam | thank you all for a great meeting | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, jroll oh yeah, so we need to convert in the nova driver too (missed that bit) | 20:00 |
| devananda | so yea, changing unit sizes is going to break tripleo and any existing deployments | 20:00 |
| dtantsur | now to get some sleep! g'night, see you tomorrow | 20:01 |
| devananda | because it's not changing what Nova writes to Ironic -- it's changing how Nova interprets what Ironic exposes | 20:01 |
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| jroll | right, the backwards compat part is hard | 20:01 |
| devananda | and we don't haev a means in Ironic to indicate the unit size for that property | 20:01 |
| devananda | dtantsur|afk: g'night! | 20:01 |
| jroll | but like... there's probably a way to do it | 20:01 |
| lucasagomes | yeah worthy taking a look | 20:01 |
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| jroll | there's going to be migrations and whatnot involved anyway, deploying this is going to have an impact already | 20:01 |
| devananda | it's a text field in Ironic and an INT in Nova | 20:02 |
| jroll | mmm | 20:02 |
| jroll | oh because json | 20:02 |
| devananda | right | 20:02 |
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| jroll | so... we'll have to write an upgrade script to munge those into things containing units? | 20:02 |
| devananda | nova statically assumes the unit sizes of cpu/ram/disk/swap/ephemeral -- and they're not all the same | 20:02 |
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| jroll | right | 20:02 |
| devananda | if we munge the data in Ironic, it breaks old deployments of Nova | 20:03 |
| devananda | so ironic needs to expose data in a way that old-nova still understands while allowing new-nova to understand something new | 20:03 |
| jroll | right, I don't see an easy path either way | 20:03 |
| devananda | right | 20:03 |
| lucasagomes | hmm yeah | 20:03 |
| devananda | if this were moved out of JSON and into a separate table in Ironic, we could handle it more intelligently | 20:04 |
| jroll | so let's do the right thing (IMO, use all MBs) and figure out the upgrade path | 20:04 |
| JayF | Why is picking MB as the unit the right thing? | 20:04 |
| devananda | store once, expose it both as "local_gb:INT" and "disk: ${size}${unit}" | 20:04 |
| jroll | JayF: because it's better than text fields with units or using floats (again, imho) | 20:04 |
| devananda | old nova would ignore the "disk" property | 20:04 |
| devananda | new nova would ignore the "local_gb" property | 20:04 |
| devananda | API supports writing to either one | 20:05 |
| devananda | it's terrible | 20:05 |
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| JayF | jroll: I vote bytes, in that case | 20:05 |
| devananda | but that would be backwards compat | 20:05 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah looks pretty bad indeed | 20:05 |
| devananda | also - this is what versioned APIs would give us | 20:05 |
| lucasagomes | duplicated info | 20:05 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: duplciated API properties, but not in our DB | 20:05 |
| jroll | devananda: right... we could do the same with converting everything to (mega)bytes then, no? | 20:06 |
| devananda | we could abstract that within the client lib, but without a versioned API, its still a pain | 20:06 |
| devananda | jroll: how would old-nova continue to function though? | 20:06 |
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| devananda | jroll: if we simply convert the data stored in Ironic to a new base unit, it breaks existing clouds immediately, sicne the flavors wouldn't match the properties | 20:07 |
| jroll | store once, expose it both as "local_gb:${size}*1024" and "disk: ${size}" | 20:07 |
| jroll | errr, /1-24 | 20:07 |
| jroll | wow | 20:07 |
| jroll | can't type | 20:07 |
| lucasagomes | hah | 20:07 |
| jroll | /1024, you get the idea | 20:07 |
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| devananda | jroll: I'm saying, how do we avoid requiring operators to perform a coordinated upgrade of both ironic and nova at the same time | 20:07 |
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| jroll | it doesn't require that | 20:08 |
| devananda | ? | 20:08 |
| jroll | if we continue to expose local_gb as gigabytes | 20:08 |
| jroll | old nova will be fine | 20:08 |
| jroll | store once, expose it both as "local_gb:${size}/1024" and "disk: ${size}", where size is in MB | 20:08 |
| devananda | right, that's what I suggested :) | 20:09 |
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| JayF | I think the key diff b/w what jroll and devananda suggested | 20:09 |
| JayF | is that devananda wants to still specify units | 20:09 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, so user would input properties/disk=1024MB and we will expose local_gb=1 in the properties automagically? | 20:09 |
| jroll | devananda: right, you suggested it with a unit string | 20:09 |
| JayF | jroll: wants to sticky units to (mega)bytes | 20:09 |
| devananda | ah | 20:09 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, yeah I think ur correct | 20:09 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: yes, for backwards compat | 20:09 |
| lucasagomes | gotcha | 20:09 |
| * devananda needs to step afk for a few hours and take car into shop | 20:09 | |
| jroll | like, using units will be fine with standard tools | 20:10 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 20:10 |
| jroll | but anyone that talks to ironic with an alternate client will need to handle this | 20:10 |
| devananda | so I think either of those would work, but both are icky from an API perspective | 20:10 |
| jroll | and it's just... annoying | 20:10 |
| devananda | bbiafh | 20:10 |
| lucasagomes | yeah, well as properties is a json blob we would need to start intropescting into it to find out if the user had input "disk"... but that's ok I think | 20:10 |
| jroll | like disk size as string is annoying to me | 20:10 |
| lucasagomes | right yeah... well it's a good discussion | 20:11 |
| jroll | indeed :) | 20:11 |
| lucasagomes | maybe we should continue on the bug there | 20:11 |
| lucasagomes | I also will go afk now :( | 20:11 |
| jroll | and I can fix my tools to work around it, if we do use units :P | 20:11 |
| lucasagomes | or tomorrow we can talk more | 20:11 |
| jroll | sure | 20:11 |
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| NobodyCam | have a good night lucasagomes | 20:11 |
| jroll | have a good night :) | 20:11 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, NobodyCam thanks! | 20:11 |
| lucasagomes | yeah let's talk more tomorrow about it then! | 20:11 |
| lucasagomes | have a good afternoon there | 20:12 |
| lucasagomes | enjoy the day | 20:12 |
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| NobodyCam | :) brb too | 20:12 |
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| NobodyCam | brb again | 21:11 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 21:20 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: are you around? | 21:24 |
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| rloo | NobodyCam: some oslo person agrees about using _LE() for exceptions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1378053 | 21:24 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: yeah, I'm around ;) | 21:24 |
| NobodyCam | nice :) | 21:25 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: got a free minute to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126019 | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | rloo: actually, exceptions should be _() if they have any chance to showing up in front of a user | 21:25 |
| rloo | dhellmann: yes, that's right. but for exception strings that are only logged -- _LE()? | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | rloo: is it worth figuring out whether an exception never makes it to a user? | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | rloo: I mean, you could, but it seems simpler to just say "use _() for exceptions" and use your brain power for other things :-) | 21:27 |
| rloo | dhellmann: so to minimize brain power, I just looked at the doc. And it doesn't explicitly mention what to do for exceptions, except in the case you mentioned. and then there's an example where _LE() is used for log.exception. So... my brain is a bit confused. | 21:28 |
| rloo | dhellmann: the thing is, people are writing code using _LE() for exceptions. | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | rloo: ok, let me look at the docs and see how we can improve them | 21:29 |
| rloo | dhellmann: so I figured I should open a bug about it and hopefully get some answer, moving forward... ;) | 21:29 |
| rloo | dhellmann: it came up today cuz NobodyCam asked ;) | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | rloo: first example on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html#examples shows _LE() for exceptions as wrong, is that where you were looking? | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | ah, no, 2nd example | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | that's not consistent | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | hrm, well, sort of | 21:30 |
| NobodyCam | dhellmann: this spawned from lines 510 & 520 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126265/2/ironic/openstack/common/policy.py | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | the exception itself is using _() in that 2nd case, but the error associated with logging the exception is _LE | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | NobodyCam: looking | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | NobodyCam: right, those are consistent with the 2nd example from the page linked above | 21:31 |
| rloo | dhellmann: so use _LE() for log.exceptions? | 21:32 |
| rloo | dhellmann: except for blah blah | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | rloo: use _() inside exception classes or when passing a string to an exception class and _LE for messages sent directly to the log | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | maybe there's a clearer way to say that | 21:32 |
| rloo | heh. thx dhellmann! | 21:33 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | if that's clear, I'll toss that text into the bug and we'll see if we can get the docs updated | 21:33 |
| NobodyCam | dhellmann: this helps alot: use _() inside exception classes or when passing a string to an exception class and _LE for messages sent directly to the log | 21:34 |
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| NobodyCam | +++ to adding to the docs | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | NobodyCam: ok, good, we'll add that to the docs | 21:34 |
| rloo | dhellmann: I'm not quite sure that captures the use _() for logging exceptions if that string is also going to be used in an exception class. | 21:35 |
| rloo | maybe '_LE for messages sent ONLY to the log'? | 21:36 |
| dhellmann | rloo: LOG.exception() doesn't create an exception, and the message is clearly only going to go to the log handler there. If you raise a FooException that takes a string, you don't know where that string might end up. | 21:36 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 21:36 |
| dhellmann | ugh, launchpad timeouts | 21:36 |
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| rloo | NobodyCam: I'll try to take a look at 126019, but I only have +1 powers there. | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | rloo, NobodyCam : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126419/ | 21:41 |
| * NobodyCam checks the link | 21:42 | |
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| rloo | thx dhellmann | 21:43 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: you don't spec +2? | 21:44 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: nope. Don't want too many powers ;) | 21:44 |
| NobodyCam | lol :) ++++ | 21:44 |
| NobodyCam | *cough* hey jroll :)- how are you doing ???!!! | 21:45 |
| jroll | uh hi? | 21:45 |
| rloo | ha ha | 21:45 |
| JayF | NobodyCam: that lgtm | 21:45 |
| jroll | don't make me do work | 21:45 |
| JayF | NobodyCam: need me to land it? | 21:45 |
| jroll | see, snipe JayF | 21:45 |
| NobodyCam | hehhehe | 21:45 |
| JayF | stop bugging jroll | 21:45 |
| JayF | bug other people too | 21:45 |
| NobodyCam | JayF: sure | 21:45 |
| JayF | I want exclusive access to bug jroll | 21:45 |
| JayF | :P | 21:45 |
| NobodyCam | I can do that | 21:45 |
| NobodyCam | *cough* hey JayF :)- how are you doing ???!!! | 21:45 |
| jroll | wait, what are we looking at? | 21:45 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 21:45 |
| NobodyCam | 126019 | 21:46 |
| jroll | aha, yeah | 21:46 |
| * jroll lets y'all do that | 21:46 | |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ironic-specs: Automate testing of template titles https://review.openstack.org/126019 | 21:48 |
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| NobodyCam | WB DavidHu__ | 21:55 |
| NobodyCam | gah | 21:55 |
| NobodyCam | wb devananda | 21:55 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 21:55 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: just wondering, wrt 126019. It doesn't allow a spec to have a section that isn't in the template. We're ok with that? | 21:58 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: I don't think the original test did that. | 21:59 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: I see that there was a new test added too; not mentioned in the commit. | 21:59 |
| DavidHu__ | Need an python-ironicclient core to help move https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111175/ forward. | 21:59 |
| devananda | rloo: correct. a spec shouldn't just invent new sections | 22:00 |
| NobodyCam | DavidHu__: sorry about the mis ping :) | 22:00 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: I am okay with it at this time. if we run into a issue with it we refactor easily | 22:00 |
| rloo | devananda: ok. I was thinking that maybe some bright person would think if a new/useful section. but we can handle that if it happens. | 22:01 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: Ironic does not support resource association to user/tenant/project at this time | 22:01 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: so this patch doesn't make sense, in that context | 22:01 |
| DavidHu__ | Sorry, it was unrelated to what you guys were discussing. | 22:02 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: my context has switched. I'm now looking at your patch. and I dont understand why its adding those fields to the client at this time | 22:03 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: I'm probably missing something obvious, though | 22:03 |
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| DavidHu__ | The fields for for keystone v3 support through the CLI. | 22:09 |
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| NobodyCam | DavidHu__: just looking quickly should lines 294 and 300 also be looking at os-tenant-id in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111175/7/ironicclient/shell.py | 22:12 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: what does it mean to authenticate with keystone v3 for Ironic for "project X" vs "project Y" when Ironic itself doesn't care about projects? | 22:13 |
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| DavidHu__ | devananda: Keystone v3 supports the concept of domain. From authentication perspective, ironic client simply gathers the domain id or name then pass all that info to keystone for authentication. | 22:24 |
| DavidHu__ | Projects and tenants are now used interchangeably. | 22:25 |
| jroll | DavidHu__: what does a domain do? | 22:31 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: sure. and that'll work. but what does it mean to a user of Ironic? | 22:31 |
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| DavidHu__ | devananda: The patch is backward compatible with Keystone v2.0 API. If a user is added to a domain other then the default domain, that user will need to specify thec domain name that he/she belong to. | 22:39 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: I think we're talking past each other still | 22:40 |
| devananda | DavidHu__: Ironic does not associate resources today. A user is either auth'd with the service (they see everything) or not auth'd (they see nothing) | 22:41 |
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| DavidHu__ | Here is a good wiki on Keystone domains, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Domains | 22:43 |
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| jroll | this wiki page makes it feel like domains are still being discussed in keystone | 22:46 |
| jroll | though also makes it sound like this could be useful in the future | 22:46 |
| jroll | maybe | 22:47 |
| jroll | it's unclear | 22:47 |
| jroll | but like... folks could say "everyone in this domain has access to ironic | 22:47 |
| jroll | " | 22:47 |
| jroll | domain_id:ironic_ops or something | 22:47 |
| jroll | I tend to think our admin or gtfo approach is kind of meh | 22:48 |
| devananda | jroll: I agree. it was an initial good-enough solution | 22:48 |
| jroll | completely agree with that | 22:48 |
| DavidHu__ | Domain support is there since Grizzly :) | 22:48 |
| devananda | jroll: looking forward in Kilo, I think I'dlike to see two axis for permissions in Ironic | 22:49 |
| jroll | and you can somewhat limit it today... it's still all or nothing but you can limit it to certain folks | 22:49 |
| jroll | but saying it's admin-only isn't really true, since you can change policy.json to allow all users or whatever | 22:49 |
| devananda | jroll: by type of information (eg, hide driver_info from some folks) and actually, associating nodes<->projects would be helpful | 22:49 |
| jroll | hmm | 22:50 |
| jroll | I still don't think I want my end users poking directly at the ironic api :) | 22:50 |
| jroll | though if you aren't using nova, might be more useful | 22:50 |
| devananda | jroll: you could have DC ops taht need to trouble shoot the hardware but shouldn't get the IPMI password | 22:51 |
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| devananda | jroll: so we expose maintenance, power, console states to them | 22:51 |
| jroll | yeah, completely | 22:51 |
| jroll | I meant for the node <-> project thing | 22:51 |
| devananda | ah | 22:51 |
| devananda | no, that I want for static assignments | 22:51 |
| jroll | aha | 22:51 |
| devananda | "these 100 machnes belong to tenant A" | 22:52 |
| jroll | yep | 22:52 |
| jroll | there could be very interesting cases for that :) | 22:52 |
| devananda | yup | 22:52 |
| jroll | anyhow, this keystone domain thing isn't useful today | 22:53 |
| jroll | but I think it will be useful at some point | 22:53 |
| devananda | yea | 22:53 |
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| DavidHu__ | The patch has everything you need for keystone v3 CLI support :) | 22:55 |
| DavidHu__ | Ironicclient is one of a remaining clients that does not authenticate domain user. V2 will be deprecated soon. | 23:02 |
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| NobodyCam | ^[j|J] does IPA validate that the image it is getting from glance is a whole disk image, or is it assumed just to be so? | 23:23 |
| jroll | hmm, I don't think so | 23:25 |
| JayF | heh | 23:25 |
| JayF | we don't even validate it's a qcow | 23:25 |
| JayF | it's fed to qemu-img convert and if it can be converted to raw it's happily written to the disk | 23:25 |
| jroll | also, I refuse to put that regex on highlight, you can just ping like normal :P | 23:25 |
| JayF | only validation done is that the hash matches what ironic said it would | 23:26 |
| NobodyCam | ack was just courious. | 23:26 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: please dont ever add that to your highlight. The times I have used that is only for those that are looking at the channel | 23:27 |
| jroll | :P | 23:27 |
| NobodyCam | I wouldn't want that to "PING" you at all | 23:27 |
| * JayF only highlights on ^JayF | 23:27 | |
| NobodyCam | ;-p | 23:27 |
| jroll | hey, you pinged saturday btw | 23:27 |
| jroll | did you get it sorted? | 23:27 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: ^ | 23:28 |
| JayF | and that goes to my irc client, not my phone, my email, my receptionist, none of that crazy stuff some poeple cook up | 23:28 |
| NobodyCam | I had question about the config drive spec | 23:28 |
| jroll | ah | 23:28 |
| NobodyCam | then saw your comment about it becoming a uuid | 23:28 |
| JoshNang | JayF: you have a receptionist? | 23:28 |
| JayF | JoshNang: "ok google" | 23:28 |
| JoshNang | heh | 23:28 |
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