Wednesday, 2015-01-21

NobodyCamnaohirot: ack .. I saw your reply to rloo on a latter review :)00:00
NobodyCamhowever Thank you00:00
NobodyCam:)00:00
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naohirotNobodyCam: I know you and other core member are busy, I think it's better to note that url is not available inline. I'll do that next time.00:02
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NobodyCam:) that would help. it is one of the items we check when doing a review00:03
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naohirotNobodyCam: Yeah :)00:04
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jrollnaohirot: NobodyCam: might be best to get scci client on github asap, not sure how I feel about landing a spec that depends on code that doesn't exist00:05
NobodyCamjroll: ++00:05
naohirotjroll: NobodyCam: I'm in the process of company's procedure to put scci source into github. it will take time.00:06
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NobodyCamjroll: the lib is listed in the Dependencies section so I think it need to be there00:06
jrollright00:07
jrollI think that should be a dependency to land the spec00:07
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jrollwhat if the company says no?00:07
NobodyCamnaohirot: ack. but we can not approve until it is there.00:07
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NobodyCamjroll: yes00:07
jrollthough in that case I might be inclined to allow that code in ironic :P00:08
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naohirotNobodyCam: really? in that case I'd like to put scci back into Ironic code.00:08
NobodyCamstackforge project can be started quickly with out much fuss00:09
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openstackgerritHadi Bannazadeh proposed openstack/ironic: region missing in endpoint selection  https://review.openstack.org/14812800:09
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NobodyCamnaohirot: how long are you thinking it will take to get the code up?00:09
jrollnaohirot: that was kind of a joke00:09
naohirotNobodyCam: I think my company is not mature to do OSS activity.00:09
naohirotNobodyCam: company allowed to put source code into openstack. so there is no problem.00:10
naohirotNobodyCam: In case of plain github, I'm the first to put source code into github.00:11
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NobodyCamcan I pypi release be cut from a personal repo?00:11
jrollNobodyCam: random question, HP runs neutron on their public cloud yes?00:11
jrollNobodyCam: and yes, it can00:11
jroll(though maybe not owned by openstack)00:12
naohirotNobodyCam: so legal deps authorization will take a couple of month at least I think.00:12
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NobodyCamnaohirot: ah00:12
jroll:/00:12
NobodyCamjroll: yes00:12
jrollcool00:12
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naohirotjroll: Yeah, like a kind of joke :) I need a lot of hassle00:15
jrollnaohirot: indeed, it's sad00:17
naohirotjroll: separating driver's code into externalize package is common among openstack project?00:18
jrollnaohirot: separating out a client to talk to a thing is common00:18
naohirotjroll: legal deps is asking me why do I have to separate scci?00:19
NobodyCamnaohirot: looking at https://github.com/openstack/ironic-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/irmc-power-driver.rst00:19
NobodyCamyou call for requests00:19
NobodyCamlib00:19
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jrollnaohirot: because you want your customers to also be able to write their own utilities to talk to scci things without ironic :)00:19
NobodyCamcan the other spec be adjusted to use requests until SCCI lib lands in pypi00:19
jrollnaohirot: same reason pyghmi is an external library, etc00:19
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jrollNobodyCam: that's going to turn into this client being in ironic's tree, you know00:20
naohirotjroll: NobodyCam: If there is such that policy document or something, it's easier for me to convince legal dept.00:20
NobodyCamis it?00:20
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jrollNobodyCam: yes, requests is used to talk to the bmc or whatever, afaict00:20
jrollnaohirot: that's how good software is written00:21
jrollnaohirot: another point you could make is that you could improve scci more quickly without the openstack overhead00:21
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jrollnaohirot: ipminative uses an external library (pyghmi), ilo driver uses an external library (proliantutils), etc, this is normal00:22
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naohirotjroll: yes I know, all engineers know about it. but they are different animal :)00:22
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jrollnaohirot: does your manager understand why it should be separate? does your manager's manager? escalate as necessary. (is what I would do)00:22
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naohirotjroll: I'm doing that, it'll take time.00:23
jrollyeah.00:23
NobodyCamnaohirot: it could be tied to Ironic in the same way pyghmi is, if that would help your managers see the use case00:24
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naohirotjroll: they insist that openstack driver code contains vendor's hardware related code, why doesn't  ironic allow to put those code in?00:26
jrollnaohirot: it doesn't, it contains code that talks to the vendor libraries.00:26
jrollnaohirot: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo/common.py00:27
jrollall of the hardware specific things are in ilo_client = importutils.try_import('proliantutils.ilo.ribcl')00:27
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naohirotjroll: they also asked me that the standard of code size, what size needs to be externalized, and what size can be internalized. They asked me the standard.00:28
jrollugh00:28
jrollthere's no standard.00:28
jrollseparation of concerns00:28
naohirotjroll: I know. I'm doing such that things:)00:29
NobodyCamjroll: and functions00:29
jrollNobodyCam: yep00:29
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NobodyCamnaohirot: if the were to land in ironic the any change the company wanted to make would have to go through the Ironic review board (if I can use that as a term) where if00:31
naohirotNobodyCam: I'm looking at Neutron's code if cisco also externalized their driver's code or not in order to provide a proof that this is a common practice in openstack.00:31
NobodyCamthe code lives in its own repo (like pyghmi) then changes can be made often and quickly with out impacting ironic00:32
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jrollnaohirot: neutron removed all plugins, so yes, cisco code is not in the neutron core00:32
jrollor something like that00:32
NobodyCamAlso the examples jroll pointed out above (proliantutils)00:32
naohirotjroll: NobodyCam: our company contributing linux kernel code, their logic is base on that.00:33
NobodyCamnaohirot: see line 173 of their spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139517/9/specs/kilo/cisco-ucs-pxe-driver.rst00:33
naohirotjroll: Linux driver code has vendor specific code inside.00:34
jrollnaohirot: I think I've provided enough evidence that this code should not live in ironic's tree, I will -1 any patches that brings it in, idk what else to say00:34
naohirotjroll: I know, and thank you for providing a lot of information.00:35
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naohirotjroll: I'll follow the way Ironic and Openstack does. but I need to convince why I need to do within my company.00:36
NobodyCamnaohirot: it really is better for every one00:37
jrollnaohirot: "that's how we build good software". done.00:37
NobodyCamCompany too00:37
jrollor even "that's how things are done"00:37
jrollbasically they can allow this if they want this code in ironic00:38
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jrollif they don't want this code in ironic, they should now allow you to do this00:38
naohirotjroll: I know that people who knows openstack understand that.00:38
jrollnaohirot: will they believe you if you say "ironic will not accept a scci client, it needs to be a separate project"? would they be ok with stackforge?00:39
naohirotjroll: Person who knows linux kernel oss activity doesn't understand the way openstack does so far. That's the situation where I'm00:40
jrollnaohirot: compare it to releasing a userspace package00:41
jrollrather than putting the code in the kernel itself00:41
jrollwithout any performance hit00:41
naohirotjroll: Yes jroll.00:42
naohirotjroll: they are not engineer. anyway I try my best :)00:43
adam_gdevananda, fyi https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:ironic_partial,n,z  should be doable00:44
NobodyCamjroll: you agree that all the new instrospection and state stuff removes the need for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13486600:46
NobodyCamthe chassis object needs something to do00:48
NobodyCamstates for the chassis00:49
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jrollNobodyCam: with the addition of a for loop over ironicclient do-discovery, yes, I agree00:52
jrollNobodyCam: though that spec also registers new nodes, which afaik we decided not to do00:53
NobodyCam:)00:53
NobodyCamyea at the node level00:53
jrollhmm00:53
NobodyCambut did we talk about the real chassis based systems00:53
jrollidk.00:53
jrollright, I don't think we did talk about that (much)00:54
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NobodyCamI need to stop thinking of a chassis as a logical connection and think more along the physical lines00:57
jrollI just ignore chassis00:57
jrolluntil someone tells me not to00:57
NobodyCamlol00:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14863401:52
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Haomeng|2morning Ironic:)02:59
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openstackgerritShivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic-specs: UEFI Secure Boot support for iLO drivers  https://review.openstack.org/13522803:51
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rameshg87good morning ironic04:47
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openstackgerritNaohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic: Add iRMC Driver and its iRMC Power module  https://review.openstack.org/14490105:03
openstackgerritNaohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic: Add iRMC Management module for iRMC Driver  https://review.openstack.org/14680305:03
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openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/ironic: uefi-support-for-agent-ilo-driver  https://review.openstack.org/14879205:13
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naohirotHaomeng: Hi05:53
Haomengnaohirot: :)05:54
naohirotHaomeng: is there ironic client subcommand which can access get_sensors_data()? I couldn't find it.05:54
Haomengnaohirot: so far, no05:55
Haomengnaohirot: so if you want to do testing, have to monitor the MQ message05:55
naohirotHaomeng: I see, so ceilmeter call ironic through api not command.05:55
naohirotHaomeng: Okay, that's what I wanted to know. thanks!05:56
Haomengnaohirot: no, ceilometer just receiving the message05:56
Haomengnaohirot: yw05:56
Haomengnaohirot: one more question about multi-subnets05:57
naohirotHaomeng: do you mean Ironic push data, but not ceilmeter poll ironic?05:57
Haomengnaohirot: how do you think if our tftp ip is in another admin subnet, but the bare metal instance is in private subnet05:57
Haomengnaohirot: yes, let me show you the code05:57
Haomengnaohirot: https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/conductor/manager.py#L118705:58
Haomengnaohirot: we just call notifier.info to send the message out, which including the message header and payload05:59
Haomengnaohirot: ceilometer will consume such notification from message bus05:59
naohirotHaomeng: What kind of action can Ironic start to pushing/Nofitying data to ceilmeter?06:01
Haomengnaohirot: just enable the option in ironic.conf - send_sensor_data=true06:02
Haomengnaohirot: and restart the conductor06:02
Haomengnaohirot: then the period task will start to send sensor data message to MQ06:02
naohirotHaomeng: I see06:03
Haomengnaohirot: :)06:03
naohirotHaomeng: I thought that returning whole xml converting json is valuable for costomer if ironic client command get sensor data.06:04
openstackgerritGopi Krishna S proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add pxe_ucs driver to support Cisco UCS B/C/M-series servers  https://review.openstack.org/13951706:05
naohirotHaomeng: because customer can create own script to process the json converted from xml.06:05
Haomengnaohirot: yes, make sense, but the document is required how to consume the xml06:06
Haomengnaohirot: so far, the customer will retrieve the data from ceilometer06:06
naohirotHaomeng: but at this moment, returning whole xml contents converting to json seems to be useless06:06
Haomengnaohirot: because ceilometer will be a data collecting center06:06
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Haomengnaohirot: yes, if we can not send to ceilometer06:07
Haomengnaohirot: maybe we need the driver/plugin based to extend the sensor data publish06:07
naohirotHaomeng: Okay, I changed the irmc get_sensor_data so that ceilmenter can consume. as a result, the format became very simplified.06:08
naohirotHaomeng: Please take a look at06:09
naohirothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/146803/3/ironic/tests/drivers/irmc/test_management.py06:09
naohirotHaomeng: line 31906:09
Haomengnaohirot: sure, thank you06:10
naohirotHaomeng: should be okay, right?06:10
Haomengnaohirot: yes, I think so, will review, thanks for your update06:10
Haomengnaohirot: looks fine this time06:11
naohirotHaomeng: but I think ipmitool is better than scci, as a result, sadly :-)06:11
Haomengnaohirot: very clear06:11
Haomengnaohirot: :)06:11
naohirotHaomeng: :)06:12
openstackgerritNisha Agarwal proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: inspect added to the possible action commands for node-set-provision-state  https://review.openstack.org/14880406:19
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openstackgerritNaohiro Tamura proposed openstack/ironic-specs: iRMC Management Driver for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/13602007:01
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dtantsurMorning!08:11
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gilliardHello :)08:55
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dtantsurgilliard, morning08:58
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naohirotdtantsur: good morning09:36
naohirotdtantsur: I need your help:)09:37
naohirotdtantsur: regarding stackforge, I looked at the doc, http://docs.openstack.org/infra/publications/stackforge/#%2821%2909:37
naohirotdtantsur: this is quit old, and I asked some question in infra irc channel, but I got no response.09:38
dtantsurnaohirot, morning, yeah09:38
dtantsurnaohirot, it's called project-config now, IIRC09:39
naohirotdtantsur: not here? https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config09:39
dtantsurno09:40
dtantsurlemme find a link09:40
naohirotdtantsur: ok, there is https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config09:40
naohirotdtantsur: the rest of procedures in the infra doc still valid?09:41
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dtantsurnaohirot, here's the example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133473/09:42
dtantsurI don't know, I haven't seen this presentation. I used docs that no longer exist as of now09:42
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naohirotdtantsur: that gerrit review is very helpful, and quite recent, just Nov. last year.09:44
dtantsurnaohirot, well yeah, it wasn't long ago :)09:44
naohirotdtantsur: I'll take a look, thanks!09:44
dtantsurnaohirot, and after it was merged I filed such a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/139261409:47
dtantsurnaohirot, these 2 steps should be enough09:47
naohirotdtantsur: Yeah, fungi, he is the person I asked in infra channel. he was not there.09:49
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naohirotdtantsur: I'll try :)09:50
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* dtantsur brb10:02
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openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack/ironic: DracClient to handle ReturnValue validation  https://review.openstack.org/14720310:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: DRAC: Fix wsman host verification  https://review.openstack.org/14873710:23
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openstackgerritYuriy Zveryanskyy proposed openstack/ironic: Fix instance_info parameters clearing  https://review.openstack.org/14887410:49
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gilliardyuriyz: Hi!11:17
gilliardThanks for your comment here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148219/2/ironic/conductor/manager.py11:19
gilliardThat patch is a cherrypick from master->stable/juno, so do you think we need the same fix here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142782/9/ironic/conductor/manager.py >11:20
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yuriyzhi gilliard patch already on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148874/12:01
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openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack/ironic: Fix filter_query in drac/power interface  https://review.openstack.org/14890312:04
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dtantsurifarkas, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148578/ ? I'd like to make RPM snapshot today...12:48
ifarkasdtantsur, sure thing13:01
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: Add support for driver-specific periodic tasks  https://review.openstack.org/14752313:24
ShrewsGood moooooorning, Ironic13:24
dtantsurShrews, morning!13:24
Shrewso/13:24
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sdakesay does anyone think the userdata behavior would be different on a real bare metal deployment of an OS using Ironic rather then using the pxe_ssh in virtualized mode?13:25
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Fix reporting errors happened in background thread of introspect()  https://review.openstack.org/14857814:03
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victor_lowtherGood morning, Ironic14:11
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lucasagomesvictor_lowther, o/ morning14:14
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dtantsurvictor_lowther, morning14:15
openstackgerritImre Farkas proposed openstack/ironic: DracClient to handle ReturnValue validation  https://review.openstack.org/14720314:16
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BadCub_Morning Ironic14:16
rloomorning BadCub_, victor_lowther. Aft lucasagomes, dtantsur, ifarkas14:17
lucasagomesrloo, hello there, good morning14:17
dtantsurrloo, BadCub_, morning!14:17
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ifarkasvictor_lowther, rloo, good morning!14:18
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jerryzdtantsur: ping14:30
dtantsurjerryz, pong14:30
jerryzdtantsur: i am using discoverd ramdisk image hosted on fedora repo and have a question about its compatibility with trunk code of stackforge/ironic-discoverd14:32
openstackgerritTan Lin proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add Driver Internal Info Table  https://review.openstack.org/14894414:32
dtantsurjerryz, it should be compatible. any problems?14:32
jerryzdtantsur: i found that ironic-discoverd didn't receive any call back from ramdisk14:33
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jerryzdtantsur: the url i set in default pxelinux.cfg is correct14:33
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dtantsurjerryz, so in logs you don't even see post to /v1/continue, right? could you show me your pxelinux.cfg? I assume you used https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack-m/tripleo-images-rdo-juno/ right?14:34
jerryzdtantsur: yes14:35
gilliardyuriyz: sorry was AFK for a few meetings. But, great to see that patch up there. Thanks.14:35
jerryzdtantsur: http://paste.openstack.org/show/159757/14:36
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dtantsurjerryz, lemme investigate. I'm starting to suspect that images were not rebuilt for a while...14:38
jerryzdtantsur: http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2015-01-21_06_07_54-NRszDoRy.1421851073.png this is console capture14:38
jerryzdtantsur: btw, could you point me to the code off which you built the image? which code repo should i follow?14:39
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dtantsurjerryz, the best way for you now is to build your own image. it's 'ironic-discoverd-ramdisk' element in diskimage-builder14:40
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jerryzdtantsur: is that new enough to be compatible with discoverd? i found it much older than https://github.com/agroup/instack-undercloud/commits/master/elements/ironic-discoverd-ramdisk-instack14:41
dtantsurjerryz, please don't use the latter, it's pretty experimental now. one in DIB is what should be used and we have a gate job checking their compatibility.14:42
dtantsurjerryz, to fix your environment s/discoverd_callback/ironic_callback/ in your pxelinux.cfg14:43
dtantsurthat's the old variable name, looks like it's still used in that builds...14:43
jerryzdtantsur: ok. thanks14:43
jerryzdtantsur: is there any other element needed for building the image?14:44
jerryzdtantsur: or could you share with me the script for the gate job for reference?14:44
dtantsurjerryz, no, should be like ramdisk-image-create fedora ironic-discoverd-ramdisk14:45
dtantsurjerryz, gate job is not building the ramdisk, only executing its bash script in a fake environment14:45
jerryzdtantsur: i see14:46
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NobodyCamgood morninng Ironicers14:57
ShrewsNobodyCam: morning15:04
NobodyCammorning Shrews :)15:04
NobodyCamgilliard: morning, have you seen yuriyz comments on 148219?15:05
dtantsurNobodyCam, morning. please see my comment on driver-specific periodic tasks spec15:09
NobodyCamdtantsur: will do in a couple of minutes15:09
NobodyCam:)15:09
NobodyCamoh and yuriyz if you have a minute of so I'd love to chat about 14636115:10
NobodyCamdtantsur: could we have atleast an enable / disable switch until oslo is ready?15:12
NobodyCamfyi I am still waking up15:12
dtantsurNobodyCam, enable/disable what? parallelization?15:12
yuriyzmorning NobodyCam I love idea with IPMI "agent"15:12
NobodyCamawesome :)15:12
NobodyCamwill / can it work for your use case?15:13
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Fix discovery image installation notes  https://review.openstack.org/14895415:13
NobodyCamI would love to rid us of all the ssh drivers15:13
dtantsurjerryz, could you have a look whether this ^^^ is less confusing?15:13
dtantsur( https://review.openstack.org/148954 I mean)15:14
NobodyCam:-p15:14
yuriyzNobodyCam yes but we should use simple out-of-tree driver until IPMI agent is not ready15:15
dtantsurNobodyCam, I didn't insist on having some kind of parallelization, but folks did hate that we're adding driver-specific periodic tasks in the same thread. So what I suggest is a work around, and I don't fell like complicating it even more...15:17
NobodyCamdtantsur: okay15:18
jerryzdtantsur: about dnsmasq.conf, i had to remove localhost.localdomain,{TFTP IP} to get ipxe to work. otherwise, it could find pxelinux.cfg/default15:20
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dtantsurjerryz, oh, you're using iPXE? never tried it...15:21
dtantsurjerryz, what is your dnsmasq.conf then?15:21
jerryzdtantsur: i captured a dhcp offer and found that in option: tftp server it said localhost.localdomain15:22
jerryzhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/159785/15:22
dtantsurjerryz, thanks, lemme try if it work for me too...15:23
lucasagomesShrews, NobodyCam morning15:24
lucasagomesyuanying, jerryz morning :)15:24
Shrewslucasagomes: o/15:24
rloohi Shrews. Thx for reviewing https://review.openstack.org/148734. I'm not sure what you mean by your comment though :-(15:25
Shrewsrloo: what is "eg" ?15:25
NobodyCammorning lucasagomes & rloo15:25
rlooShrews: oh, isn't that short for 'example'?15:25
Shrewsrloo: "In cases where it's eg ugly to handle"15:26
rlooShrews: what do you suggest?15:26
* lucasagomes knows eg as short for "for example" as well15:26
ShrewsOh! e.g.15:27
rlooI'm fine changing it if Shrews doesn't understand. Others might have the same problem.15:27
Shrewsrloo: it reads fine without it, imo15:27
rlooShrews: ah. ok. are you fine with 'ugly'. I couldn't think of another word.15:27
lucasagomesmaybe writing it as "for example ugly"15:27
lucasagomesor even "difficult" ?>15:28
rlooShrews: that's ok, I'll change it. not a problem.15:28
Shrewsrloo: yup15:28
jerryzdtantsur: dhcp-range={DHCP IP RANGE},29 is this supposed to be start and end ip separated by comma?15:28
rloolucasagomes: ok, I'll use difficult ;)15:28
lucasagomesrloo, ack. Just an idea, but maybe we can say something like. "In case you want to add a custom handler for the exceptions raised ..."15:29
lucasagomesbut then you would need to rephrase that bit a little15:29
rloolucasagomes: I can do that too. I was trying to minimize/leave what was there already, but I'm fine changing it to something better.15:30
Shrewsrloo: the lack of periods in the abbreviation threw me off.15:30
dtantsurjerryz, IIRC yes. last part should probably be deleted15:30
lucasagomesrloo, yeah, well "difficult" is good to me15:30
rlooShrews: yeah, I figured that now. I'll use 'for example' for our non-English readers.15:30
jerryzdtantsur: it is the aging time?15:30
dtantsurjerryz, I think so15:31
jerryzdtantsur: better given a unit, minute or hour15:33
dtantsurjerryz, I think I can skip it completely from the example15:33
NobodyCamadam_g: you around?15:35
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Fix discovery image installation notes  https://review.openstack.org/14895415:35
dtantsurjerryz, ^^^ (testing now)15:36
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openstackgerritVladyslav Drok proposed openstack/ironic: Support for non-Glance image references  https://review.openstack.org/13674115:41
openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed openstack/ironic: Improve docstrings about TaskManager's spawning feature  https://review.openstack.org/14873415:42
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gilliardHi Ironic! Who can approve backports? It's not the regular cores IIRC15:46
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lucasagomesgilliard, yeah I think that in the moment adam_g and devananda are the ones approving the patches for the stable branches15:48
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gilliardThanks lucasagomes I'll try to ask when they're around15:49
lucasagomesbut any core can manifest interest and help them out also being a core on the stable branch group (if it's already created)15:49
lucasagomescool15:49
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NobodyCamgilliard: ya I'm keeping an eye out for adam_g :)15:52
NobodyCamdevananda: is traveling today15:52
rlooNobodyCam: I think you should volunteer to be on the stable branch group ;)15:53
gilliardI think devananda is going to the nova mid-cycle so I should be able to collar him there if not before15:53
gilliardI agree with rloo :)15:53
NobodyCamlol15:53
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NobodyCamI cann't keep up with the spec reviews15:53
NobodyCam:-p15:53
NobodyCambut I would be ok as a back up member15:53
jerryzdtantsur: please note that pxelinux.0 should be in tftp dir as well.15:54
rlooNobodyCam: yeah, too many spec reviews. I find those hard to do :-(15:54
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dtantsurjerryz, I think it's the case for Fedora, but yeah, for Ubuntu IIRC it's not15:55
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rameshg87devananda, lucasagomes, NobodyCam, can you please take a look at generic raid configuration spec - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135899/16:01
jerryzdtantsur: isn't it needed for pxe boot despite distro?16:01
rameshg872 parties are waiting for the spec to be approved :)16:01
rameshg87victor_lowther, hi16:01
rloodon't want to delay any wild parties from happenin' ...16:02
dtantsurjerryz, I remember someone telling me that fedora package does it, but will update anyway16:02
dtantsurrloo, wild and ironic parties...16:02
rloo+1 dtantsur16:03
jerryzdtantsur: one question about the workflow of discoverd. after a port is enrolled in ironic, when pxe boot the machine, how to avoid dnsmasq of discoverd conflicting with that of neutron?16:06
dtantsurjerryz, discoverd uses iptables to blacklist known MAC's, that are not under introspection right now16:07
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Fix discovery image installation notes  https://review.openstack.org/14895416:11
dtantsurjerryz, ^^^16:11
lucasagomesrameshg87, ack16:14
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dtantsurifarkas, still online to have a very quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148954 ?16:18
jerryzdtantsur: lgtm16:18
rameshg87lucasagomes, thanks :)16:19
dtantsurjerryz, thanks for reporting this stuff, much appreciated! feel free to ping me if you have more questions16:19
ifarkasdtantsur, sorry need to run now. I will check back later16:19
dtantsurifarkas, nevermind then16:19
dtantsurlucasagomes, maybe you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148954 is just a doc update for discoverd16:20
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NobodyCamrameshg87: Does minimal verification of the RAID configuration information like if at least one boot volume has been specified16:20
NobodyCamis htat saying not net booting?16:21
NobodyCams/not/no/16:21
NobodyCams/htat/that/ :-p16:21
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* NobodyCam takes the coffee16:21
rameshg87:)16:21
rameshg87NobodyCam, it actually hints Ironic to deploy the image onto that disk16:22
rameshg87NobodyCam, it could be a partition image or a whole disk image - it doesn't matter16:22
rameshg87NobodyCam, later on it could net-boot or local-boot16:22
NobodyCamah ok that what I wanted to check on .. Ty16:22
* rameshg87 wonders if boot volume sounds like node would boot from that volume16:23
rameshg87NobodyCam, ^^ did it give the wrong impression at first sight ?16:23
NobodyCamyep thats how I took it16:23
NobodyCam:)16:23
NobodyCamhow about deploy volume16:23
rameshg87NobodyCam, does root_volume16:24
NobodyCamor some such16:24
rameshg87NobodyCam, oh16:24
NobodyCamroot works too16:24
rameshg87NobodyCam, yeah root_volume or deploy_volume sounds much better to me too16:24
rameshg87NobodyCam, i can change it :)16:24
lucasagomesdtantsur, the ironic_callback_url option was properly deprecated?16:24
NobodyCam:) want a comment on the review?16:24
lucasagomeswondering if you should keep the backwards compat there16:24
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dtantsurlucasagomes, it was never actually public, but it's still in Juno images that we publish with RDO.16:25
dtantsurnot 100% sure here, anyway it's not part of discoverd code base16:26
lucasagomeshmm16:26
lucasagomesI see16:26
lucasagomesack16:26
rameshg87NobodyCam, sure :)16:26
NobodyCamack :) let me finish looking it over before you attempt to fix :)16:26
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dtantsurlucasagomes, I mean, its a good question, but ramdisks are a bit harder to handle, the best I can do is to write a warning in docs, as nothing in the code itself touches this parameter16:27
lucasagomesdtantsur, yeah I think ur grand then. I thought it was a valid kernel parameter for discoverd before16:27
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devanandamorning, all16:31
lucasagomesdevananda, good morning16:31
Alonhadevananda: Good morning16:33
NobodyCammornign devananda16:33
devanandagilliard: there will be no collaring of devas -- but yes, I will be at the nova midcycle next week, and am happy to chat16:33
NobodyCamlol16:33
devanandagilliard: also, what did you want to talk about?16:33
devanandaAlonha: morning16:33
dtantsurdevananda, morning16:34
Alonhadevananda: I have a question regarding bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/127385616:34
devanandaAlonha: please just ask the question. no need to "ask if you can ask" :)16:34
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AlonhaI would like to contribute and was thinking to get more accurate pointers to the files you think that requires the logging16:35
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dtantsur|afkNobodyCam, please update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135589 with what you think about my comment :)16:36
dtantsur|afkg'night16:36
devanandadtantsur|afk: g'night!16:36
lxslidevananda: think gilliard wanted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148218/ approved to stable/juno16:37
Alonhadevananda: sorry, I have to leave now I will try to catch you again later16:37
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lxslirloo: fixed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14821916:39
rloolxsli: was that cherry picked from two commits on master?16:40
lucasagomesdtantsur|afk, night16:51
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ramineniJayF: hi16:55
NobodyCambbt ... brb16:57
raminenilooking for reviews for the  zapping and cleaning specs proposed for ilo drivers https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142401/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145404/ . Anyone from core team , please have a look17:02
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JoshNangramineni: i'll take a look at the cleaning one. i'm not sure my zapping spec will make it in this cycle, because without hardware capabilities, it's not very useful17:04
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lxslirloo: the 2 changes were picked from 1 commit each, if that's what you meant?17:05
rloolxsli: yes. To backport, the changes have to come from master.17:06
ramineniJoshNang: oohk, thanks :)17:06
rloolxsli: that backport needs changes from two commits in master. One of the changes hasn't merged yet.17:06
lxslirloo aha sorry, didn't know it wasn't ready yet17:07
rloolxsli: the commit message should indicate the commit #s.17:07
rloolxsli: no worries17:07
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Fix discovery image installation notes  https://review.openstack.org/14895417:07
lxsliThis is 148219 right? Which picks 142782 (merged)17:07
rloolxsli: i don't recall the numbers. but i added a link to the 2nd patch. if someone actually does the cherry pick, they'd know that the 2nd one didn't merge yet. cuz there's no commit number for that :-)17:08
rloolxsli: just curious. why did you update that instead of waiting for gilliard to do it?17:09
lxslibecause Devananda turned up17:09
lxsliand gilliard usually sits about 4' away :)17:10
rloolxsli: ha ha. So when people modify a patch, they sometimes/usually put co-author (or something like that) on the commit msg.17:11
lxsliWell, I only fixed a typo :)17:11
rloolxsli: just mentioning it in case you didn't know about it. there are useful reasons for doing the co-author stuff sometimes ;)17:12
lxsliBesides credit?17:14
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rloolxsli: also for reviewing. I'm not sure if co-authors should review/vote. Core-reviewers are pretty careful about that, if they co-author, they don't tend to +2 unless they did something simple like rebasing.17:17
lxsliAh right - yes I follow that (I'm TripleO core) but often don't bother adding Co-Author17:18
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rloolxsli: no worries!17:20
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devanandayea, for a nit-fix (like a typo or commit msg) I won't usually add co-author17:23
NobodyCamI tend to limit my voting on patches that I've helped on to +1 .. to show that I agree with any other changes to the patch set17:25
devanandaI need to run to the airport, will try to review this later, unless adam_g gets to it first17:25
NobodyCamawesome thank you devananda17:25
NobodyCamI am keeping an eye out for adam_g ...17:26
NobodyCamhave a good flight17:26
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openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Allow associate an instance independent of the node power state  https://review.openstack.org/14900917:37
lucasagomesdevananda, have a safe flight17:37
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NobodyCamoh /me needs to look at that patch17:40
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* NobodyCam sees the mail man.. and prepears to mug hum for his NUC17:45
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lucasagomes:)17:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Clean up ilo's parse_driver_info()  https://review.openstack.org/14838217:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Fix instance_info parameters clearing  https://review.openstack.org/14887417:51
lucasagomesok folks I will call it a day17:55
lucasagomeshave a good night everyone!17:55
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NobodyCamwoo hoo /me now has a i5 Nuc,16gb ram, 120gb ssd, and a wifi card.. Now just have to figure out how to open the case and we be set18:02
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BadCub_:-o18:11
ShrewsNobodyCam: neat-o!18:12
* Shrews wonders in what interesting ways NobodyCam will use it18:12
Shrewsif NUCs only supported IPMI....18:12
NobodyCamlol A new dvr for the rv18:12
NobodyCamShrews: there a a atm power driver18:12
NobodyCamlol and I thought mini-atx cases where small... ogm this is tiny18:17
JoshNangNobodyCam: did yours come in the box that made the "duh, duh duh duh duh" intel sound went you opened it?18:17
NobodyCamoh gawd yes. every time the box moves it makes that noise18:18
JoshNanghah!18:18
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jrollNobodyCam: nice, me wants18:26
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NobodyCamjroll: the Nuc's start around 120 bucks (with a arm type cpu) the i5 I got was only 35018:34
* jroll wonders if he can expense this18:35
jrollironic test env on a desk would be teh awesome18:35
jrollNobodyCam: let me know if AMT driver ends up working with this :)18:35
NobodyCamwe do really need to test the atm power driver some how18:36
NobodyCamjroll: I don't expect I have anytime until later in the week to play with it18:36
jrollpshhh.18:37
jrollbring it to the midcycle :D18:37
NobodyCamby then it will be mounted in the rv as my drv18:37
jrolloh nice18:37
NobodyCamwith a 12 tb raid as DAS18:38
NobodyCamlol18:38
jrollindeed :D18:39
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NobodyCamoh and waiting with no word is like the worst form of enhanced interrogation18:45
NobodyCambrb18:49
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NobodyCamdoh all we have is standard hdmi cables. going to need to go pickup a mini hdmi version if I'z wants to see the console19:00
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openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed openstack/ironic: Allow operations on DEPLOYFAIL'd nodes  https://review.openstack.org/14902719:12
NobodyCamwow custome ink sends a lot of spam19:13
NobodyCamlol19:13
NobodyCamwould anyone want one of these? http://www.customink.com/designs/ironicwork/beu0-0015-m60c/hotlink19:13
NobodyCamor have any thoughts on changes to the design?19:16
trownI would definitely rock that19:17
NobodyCam:)19:18
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BadCub_count me in19:20
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rlooadam_g: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148381/ the fix/related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1408808?19:39
adam_grloo, oh yea, sorry i forgot a bug ref19:40
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed openstack/ironic: Simplify policy.json  https://review.openstack.org/14838119:40
adam_grloo, thanks19:40
rlooadam_g: no worries. I noticed the two and didn't think it was a coincidence ;)19:40
NobodyCamthank you rloo :)19:45
NobodyCamand mornign adam_g :)19:45
adam_gheya19:45
adam_gim actually on my way out for 1hr, i +2'd that stable review. looks fine now that the master patch has landed19:45
rlooNobodyCam: yw. thank me if/when I review adam_g's patch ;)19:46
NobodyCamadam_g: awesome Thank you19:46
rlooadam_g: so it doesn't matter that the commit msg doesn't have the commit # for the 2nd (manual) cherry-pick19:47
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NobodyCambrb20:10
clif_hare there open code reviews that people want eyes on?20:14
rlooclif_h: ALL :-)20:15
clif_hhaha20:15
clif_hfair enough20:15
rloothx clif_h!20:15
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic: Clear locks on conductor startup  https://review.openstack.org/14903820:23
openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic: Clear locks on conductor startup  https://review.openstack.org/14903820:24
jrollNobodyCam: love the shirt, I might leave off "support" on the back20:25
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NobodyCamjroll: Just OpenStack:Bare Metal20:29
NobodyCamor bare metal team?20:29
jrollNobodyCam: yeah, without the :20:31
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openstackgerritVictor Lowther proposed openstack/ironic: Move drac config job management to drac_common.  https://review.openstack.org/14904020:32
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NobodyCamwould anyone want one of these? http://www.customink.com/designs/ironic2/beu0-0015-r3r1/hotlink20:38
NobodyCamjroll: ^^^20:38
NobodyCamsorry for the repost20:38
jrollI like, ++20:43
ShrewsNobodyCam: haha... yes!20:44
mrdaMorning Ironic20:45
mrdare: t-shirt, I'm not sure geeks looks good in white :)20:46
mrdaBut I like the design20:47
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NobodyCammrda: if they will allow me to, I like to set up a form where you could choose your tee shirt and print color20:51
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mrdaNobodyCam: \o/21:04
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NobodyCammrda: nope. They do not allow that type of ordering.21:43
NobodyCamI'll add an agenda item to vote on shirt and text color? front is a graphic file and not editable on their site21:44
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NobodyCamJoshNang: happen to have an update for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140826 on your pile?21:47
JoshNangNobodyCam: so i'm not sure how much i can do with zapping without hardware capabilities21:48
JoshNangwhich got bumped to L IIRC21:48
NobodyCam:(21:49
JoshNanglike, we can make the sweet interface for doing things to nodes...but there'd be no way to track what had and hadn't been done to those nodes21:50
JoshNangand you couldn't schedule against those changes. it might be useful for performing an action on a whole fleet though.21:51
NobodyCamI was thinking of a case where some one could validate a hdd in the zapping process21:52
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JoshNanghmm right21:53
JoshNangright now we throw things like that through a full cleaning cycle (or muck with the DB to skip to that step, ew)21:54
JoshNanghaving an api for it would be sweet21:54
NobodyCamI was lookng at an internal ticket and the author commented that ironic does no media validation before a deploy is actually started21:55
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Add eDeploy plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14659921:55
jrollNobodyCam: I tend to think it should do that before every deploy21:56
jroll(so in CLEAN)21:56
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NobodyCamif it was a secure erase it would do the validate by the default action of writting 0's to every sector21:57
jrollnot all secure erase writes 0's :)21:57
* NobodyCam will pick one that dose21:58
jrolllol21:58
jrollbut then it's so slow!21:58
NobodyCamlol21:58
jrollmost SSDs encrypt all the data with a key21:58
jrolland secure erase just changes the key21:58
jrollsome HDDs can even do this now21:59
NobodyCamyea, WD also has that on may of there spinning disks21:59
jrollyeah21:59
jrollbrb21:59
NobodyCamwe could have a cleaning task that check the hdd smart status22:00
JoshNangNobodyCam: funny you should say that! JayF was literally just working on this to collect smart metrics: https://github.com/rackerlabs/onmetal-ironic-hardware-manager/pull/2522:01
NobodyCamlol awesome... you that goes to heck behind most raid controlers22:02
JoshNang:(22:02
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* NobodyCam needs to troll the rackerlabs github more often 22:05
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NobodyCam:)22:05
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rlooadam_g: wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1408808, I tried to reproduce (ironic master with juno's etc/ironic/policy.json) but the curl request works, I don't get 'Forbidden...'22:07
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rlooadam_g: so I don't think I can review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1408808 since I don't seem to know how any of this works :-(22:08
openstackgerritVictor Lowther proposed openstack/ironic: Move drac config job management to drac_common  https://review.openstack.org/14904022:09
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adam_grloo, hmm, really?  devstack deploys reproduced it 100% for me, ill try to reproduce in a venv and see if i can add more details on how to reproduce22:11
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jrollNobodyCam: lol raid controllers22:12
rlooadam_g: hmm. I was lazy, doing it in a venv, not devstack. Wonder if there is something else besides the policy file. i checked the .config and nothing changed there with the big policy code changes.22:12
jrollNobodyCam: do most raid controllers expose something similar though?22:12
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NobodyCamjroll: most have their own form of status22:15
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NobodyCamnot sure if there is a standard, just never looked22:16
jrollNobodyCam: yeah, so that would be done separately kind of like the LSI stuff is separate there22:16
jrollseparately/differently22:16
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NobodyCambbiam22:23
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Add eDeploy plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14659922:28
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adam_grloo, oh, are you using auth_strategy=noauth in your dev env?22:35
rlooadam_g: argh, yup, that's it.22:36
rlooadam_g: thx22:36
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adam_grloo, np. found something else worth fixing in that area while i was there22:40
rlooadam_g: umm, I guess that's good... or not... (that you found something else...)22:41
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NobodyCamipa folk: spec with 2 +2's that will impact you. can some one toss it on their review pile: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13736322:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Improve docstrings about TaskManager's spawning feature  https://review.openstack.org/14873422:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic: Distinguish between prepare + deploy errors  https://review.openstack.org/14613522:57
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jrollNobodyCam: looking23:03
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NobodyCamty jroll23:04
jrollhmm23:04
jrollthis will impact the agent's rest api, do we want to note that?23:05
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NobodyCamoh we actually dont have an offical agent api section but ya it should be noted23:05
jrollblah, I don't want to hold up the spec on it though23:06
NobodyCam+ or - as you feel23:07
jrollyeah23:07
jrollit's just parameters to a given call that change, should be fine23:07
NobodyCamno pressure http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQ3ywwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4-rkJmRiFug&ei=PTHAVOToCJC6ogTKv4GAAQ&usg=AFQjCNGX8gyi_VrycAKxPf1GpcoxaU-6QA&sig2=uPaYHXQrh9DqkFQ7fAncuA&bvm=bv.83829542,d.cGU23:08
jroll:D23:08
NobodyCamlol23:08
NobodyCamnot the version I wanted to link23:08
jrollclose enough :P23:08
NobodyCambut you get the point23:08
NobodyCam:)23:09
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jrolllanded23:09
NobodyCamnice :)23:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-specs: Partition image support for agent driver  https://review.openstack.org/13736323:11
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