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| dtantsur | Morning folks! | 09:02 |
| takadayuiko | dtantsur: morning! | 09:03 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 09:04 |
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| sambetts | Morning dtantsur, takadayuiko o/ | 09:13 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, o/ | 09:13 |
| takadayuiko | sambetts: Morning :D | 09:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Repair devstack plugin after rename https://review.openstack.org/186718 | 09:16 |
| dtantsur | takadayuiko, while Ironic inspection functionality in ^^^ depends on Ironic patch, we can still merge it, if it at least fixes standalone usage (via `openstack baremetal introspection start`). wdyt? | 09:16 |
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| takadayuiko | dtantsur: so that, you mean... 1) merge 186718(devstack plugin) -> 2) merge 186772(ironic) ? | 09:21 |
| dtantsur | takadayuiko, right (because Ironic patch can take longer to merge, and we're in a state of broken devstack plugin right now) | 09:22 |
| openstackgerrit | chenglch proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add console log support https://review.openstack.org/164586 | 09:22 |
| takadayuiko | dtantsur: that's right, if we do it, we can also make the impact minimum :) I agree. | 09:23 |
| dtantsur | takadayuiko, good. so let's check it once more and merge, if it works :) | 09:23 |
| takadayuiko | dtantsur: Well, I will test the latest one soon, so could you please wait a minute? | 09:24 |
| dtantsur | sure, I'm testing it as well | 09:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs: Add new boot interface in Ironic https://review.openstack.org/168698 | 09:27 |
| openstackgerrit | baiyuan proposed openstack/ironic: Add documentation for getting a node's console https://review.openstack.org/176642 | 09:32 |
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| dtantsur | damn, my devstack fails due to unrelated problem... | 09:44 |
| takadayuiko | dtantsur: it happens often :( Rely on me! | 09:46 |
| dtantsur | :) | 09:46 |
| takadayuiko | dtantsur: at least, ./functest/devstack-test.sh succeed. Now I'm checking ironic node-set-provision-state inspect just in case. | 09:47 |
| dtantsur | cool | 09:48 |
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| takadayuiko | dtantsur: Done! Go ahead! | 09:53 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 09:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Add SSL/TLS Support https://review.openstack.org/186843 | 09:56 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: ^^^ I hope, I'm going about this the right way | 09:57 |
| dtantsur | I'll have a look soon :) | 09:57 |
| sambetts | :D | 09:59 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, left some comments | 10:05 |
| dtantsur | thanks for working on it! | 10:05 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: hi | 10:09 |
| dtantsur | rameshg87, o/ | 10:09 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: regarding the http return code for the API in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173214/9/specs/liberty/ironic-generic-raid-interface.rst | 10:10 |
| dtantsur | yep | 10:10 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: 409 seems like it conflicts with the current state which might give impression that it might work some other time | 10:10 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: doesn't it ? | 10:10 |
| dtantsur | rameshg87, I was intending to write 405 | 10:10 |
| dtantsur | sorry | 10:10 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: oh okay | 10:11 |
| dtantsur | 404 might work as well | 10:11 |
| dtantsur | but "forbidden" is misleading | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: but your concern with 403 seems documented | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | dtantsur: 403 will make a user think that he/she lacks access rights, which is not true. | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | but in documentation | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated. | 10:11 |
| rameshg87 | yeah but "refusing" seems a bit bad :( | 10:12 |
| dtantsur | yep | 10:12 |
| dtantsur | imagine user calling our CLI and getting "403 Forbidden" | 10:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Repair devstack plugin after rename https://review.openstack.org/186718 | 10:13 |
| rameshg87 | yeah i agree | 10:13 |
| rameshg87 | 404 seems better | 10:15 |
| rameshg87 | since we are not passing any method in 405, that might be misleading too. | 10:15 |
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| rameshg87 | dtantsur: 404 my suggestion, wdyt ? | 10:16 |
| dtantsur | lgtm | 10:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: ironic-discoverd is being renamed to ironic-inspector https://review.openstack.org/186772 | 10:52 |
| TheJulia | good morning everyone! | 10:54 |
| takadayuiko | TheJulia: Morning :) | 10:54 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, morning | 10:56 |
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| dtantsur | am I the only one for whom etherpad.o.o does not save anything? | 10:59 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: Thanks for the comments :) | 11:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Feng Xi Yan proposed openstack/ironic: Add documentation for getting a node's console https://review.openstack.org/176642 | 12:13 |
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| radek_ | Morning All!!! | 12:55 |
| radek_ | I have a quick question, just trying to setup by dev Ironic | 12:55 |
| radek_ | and want to use sqlite for now, but when I run ironic-dbsync, I got this exception: NotImplementedError: No support for ALTER of constraints in SQLite dialect | 12:55 |
| radek_ | I am wondering is sqlite is supported at all ? | 12:56 |
| dtantsur | radek_, hi there, it is with one issue: | 12:57 |
| dtantsur | radek_, migration really is not supported, use $ ironic-dbsync --config-file ... create_schema | 12:57 |
| dtantsur | if you need to update schema, you'll have to drop sqlite file and run it again | 12:57 |
| dtantsur | hope that helps | 12:58 |
| radek_ | hmmm I don't have an existing sqlite file yet | 12:58 |
| radek_ | ok let me try . . . . | 12:58 |
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| radek_ | dtantsur_, I removed my old sqlite file and run the command you recommended but this time I end up with: DbMigrationError: DB schema is already under version control. Use upgrade() instead | 13:00 |
| dtantsur | radek_, after you ran dbsync for the first time, you do have an existing file. it should be deleted before create_schema | 13:00 |
| dtantsur | (in your case seems like you've removed the wrong file) | 13:01 |
| radek_ | hmmm this may be an issue here :) | 13:01 |
| radek_ | I will double check this | 13:02 |
| radek_ | indeed that was the problem, thanks a million! | 13:03 |
| dtantsur | you're welcome | 13:03 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: Are you using the DocImpact flag for inspector commit messages? | 13:10 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, inspector is not covered by the doc team, so no | 13:11 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: cool :) | 13:12 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, the only documentation for inspector now is its README :) | 13:12 |
| radek_ | dtantsur_, "ironic-dbsync --debug . . . . ." wouldn't it be nice to print the connection string or where we create the database file if this is sqlite? | 13:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Add SSL/TLS Support https://review.openstack.org/186843 | 13:24 |
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| dtantsur | radek_, well, it would :) please file a bug | 13:52 |
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| jroll | morning all :) | 13:56 |
| jroll | "tl;dr: To simplify release management, especially for projects releasing more than one time per cycle, we would like projects currently using date-based versioning to move to semver." | 13:56 |
| jroll | woot | 13:56 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 13:58 |
| dtantsur | also wsme released | 13:58 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 13:58 |
| dtantsur | and g'morning, jroll :) | 13:58 |
| jroll | \o/ morning! | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Radoslaw Smigielski proposed openstack/ironic: ironic-dbsync to log connection string when run in debug https://review.openstack.org/187203 | 14:05 |
| radek_ | dtantsur_, how about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187203/ ? | 14:06 |
| dtantsur | looking now | 14:06 |
| dtantsur | radek_, left one comment | 14:07 |
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| radek_ | dtantsur_, I thought about the same, it's only with debug enabled but to be on safe site I will rework it to remove this | 14:15 |
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| NobodyCam | good morning Ironicers | 14:18 |
| sambetts | o/ NobodyCam | 14:19 |
| NobodyCam | mornign sambetts :) | 14:19 |
| BadCub | mornin folks | 14:20 |
| rloo | morning and hello NobodyCam, sambetts, dtantsur, jroll, radek_ | 14:20 |
| NobodyCam | morning rloo :) | 14:21 |
| jroll | morning rloo, BadCub, NobodyCam, sambetts, radek_ :) | 14:21 |
| NobodyCam | morning jroll | 14:21 |
| dtantsur | morning NobodyCam, BadCub, rloo | 14:21 |
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| NobodyCam | morning dtantsur | 14:21 |
| NobodyCam | oh coffee | 14:21 |
| BadCub | mornin rloo dtantsur jroll NobodyCam | 14:21 |
| NobodyCam | thnak you thank you | 14:22 |
| NobodyCam | morning BadCub | 14:22 |
| BadCub | mmmm coffee | 14:22 |
| rloo | hey, lucas doesn't seem to be around. From the summit, we discussed 'moving' vendor passthru's heartbeat/pass_deploy_info into a method in DeployInterface. I figured that meant changing the API endpoint for it too? Or do people think we'd still do /v1/nodes/../vendor_passthru/<method> ? | 14:23 |
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| thiagop | morning | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add "enroll" state to the state machine https://review.openstack.org/179151 | 14:32 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I hope I fixed ^^^ | 14:32 |
| dtantsur | thiagop, morning | 14:32 |
| thiagop | jroll: I understand that you're "in charge" of implementing the blueprint on boot interface. Is that any work already to take a look (if not, would you like some help with that)? | 14:33 |
| rloo | dtantsur: will look soon (well, sometime today anyway, still going through my emails etc) | 14:33 |
| dtantsur | yeah, np | 14:33 |
| jroll | thiagop: nooooo, I am not in charge of that at all, that I know of | 14:33 |
| jroll | thiagop: you want rameshg87 (not here right now) | 14:34 |
| thiagop | aw, ok. Maybe we should update that blueprint then. :) | 14:34 |
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| jroll | thiagop: heh, indeed, got a link? | 14:35 |
| jroll | there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166512/ | 14:35 |
| jroll | but idk about a spec | 14:35 |
| thiagop | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/new-boot-interface | 14:35 |
| jroll | thanks | 14:36 |
| jroll | thiagop: spec is here btw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168698/ | 14:36 |
| jroll | fixed the bp | 14:37 |
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| thiagop | I think an update to this patch commit message is better (reference the BP). I can help with that... | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Thiago Paiva Brito proposed openstack/ironic: Add boot interface in Ironic https://review.openstack.org/166512 | 14:39 |
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| thiagop | done | 14:41 |
| thiagop | thanks jroll | 14:41 |
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| jroll | np | 14:42 |
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| NobodyCam | oh brb.... | 14:50 |
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| krotscheck | Argh. I am stuck between rock and hard place. | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | There's a non-trivial faction inside openstack that believe all parts of openstack should be dependent on keystone. | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | baiyuan proposed openstack/ironic: fix node-get-console returns url always start with http https://review.openstack.org/185523 | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | baiyuan proposed openstack/ironic: fix node-get-console returns url always start with http https://review.openstack.org/185523 | 15:09 |
| rloo | anyone know when this week's ironic meeting is? I'm thinking today 1700 UTC? | 15:09 |
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| NobodyCam | ya I believe that is correct | 15:11 |
| rloo | thx NobodyCam | 15:12 |
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| rloo | hi dtantsur, wrt Inspector https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186772/ | 15:26 |
| rloo | dtantsur: not sure what/if backwards compatibility is needed | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | rloo, I expect this patch to be backward compatible. do you think something is wrong with it? | 15:27 |
| rloo | dtantsur: eg discoverd + ironic-k, discoverd+ironic-l, inspector+ironic-k, inspector+ironic-l? | 15:27 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: dunno if anything wrong yet; need to know what it should support first :-) | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | I expect all of these to work | 15:28 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: ok, will check :-) | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | thnx :) | 15:30 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: shouldn't it be s/inspector/inspectR/ ? | 15:32 |
| rloo | dtantsur: (just kidding) | 15:32 |
| dtantsur | lol | 15:32 |
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| cinerama | greetings programs | 15:40 |
| NobodyCam | morning cinerama | 15:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Update iLO documentation for UEFI secure boot https://review.openstack.org/178582 | 15:43 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ironic-inspector package doesn't exist yet, right? | 15:43 |
| dtantsur | rloo, python package is in ironic-discoverd repo for now | 15:44 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | I hope to get TC approval for renaming (and creating ironic_inspector_client which we'll actually use) tomorrow | 15:45 |
| rloo | dtantsur: cool | 15:47 |
| jroll | reminder: this meeting happens in like 10 minutes for those interested https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron | 15:49 |
| jroll | ironic/neutron integration stuff | 15:49 |
| jroll | #openstack-meeting-4 | 15:49 |
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| lazy_prince | jroll: will be there for the meeting.. :) | 15:49 |
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| jroll | :) | 15:50 |
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| * BadCub heads off to morning meeting[s] | 15:55 | |
| jlvillal | Good morning Ironic | 15:55 |
| jroll | mornin' jlvillal | 15:55 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: I'll (virtually) see you in the Neutron meeting. I'm supposed to attend to possibly tell Nova people interesting things. | 15:56 |
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| NobodyCam | mornign jlvillal | 15:57 |
| jroll | jlvillal: huh, ok, my plan was to just make a thing to point them at "what we need to do" and some patches | 15:57 |
| jlvillal | jroll: I like your plan. I just saw last week devananda on #openstack-nova that I should attend. | 15:59 |
| jlvillal | jroll: I think you will know much better than me on what should be done. | 15:59 |
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| jroll | jlvillal: sure, you totally should :) just letting you know what my plan is | 15:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | baiyuan proposed openstack/ironic: Add documentation for getting a node's console https://review.openstack.org/176642 | 16:00 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: looking to land discover -> inspector name change asap, or wanting to give others time to also review | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam, I don't think it's too interesting for a lot of people :) but as you wish, I'm not in hurry with this one | 16:07 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 16:07 |
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| rloo | now he tells me he isn't in a hurry ... :) | 16:07 |
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| NobodyCam | lol | 16:08 |
| dtantsur | rloo, we were in a big hurry, but we figured out how to unbreak our devstack plugin without this patch :) | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | so thank you for timely review | 16:09 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: just for that, I should make you update the commit msg :-) | 16:09 |
| dtantsur | oh | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic: Revert "Add simplegeneric to py34 requirements" https://review.openstack.org/186208 | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, make sure new version of wsme is in global-req before we do ^^^ | 16:24 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Do you want to specify >=0.7? | 16:25 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, we have to, otherwise it still may fail for people | 16:25 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Okay. I can do that. Thanks | 16:25 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: https://review.openstack.org/187248 | 16:27 |
| * jlvillal goes to make that a dependency for his other patch | 16:28 | |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic: Revert "Add simplegeneric to py34 requirements" https://review.openstack.org/186208 | 16:29 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: trying to work out what the best way to test for the python version is in the SSL patch, I've currently got two ways which should work, either directly quering sys for the version info, or doing getattr on ssl to make sure the right function exists, both of which I can't decide what a nice way to UT is | 16:45 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, I would go for sys.version approach (mostly random decision though) | 16:46 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: Still not sure how to UT it :/ and unless I modify all the UTs I've written it means it assumes the UTs are run on a version equal to or higher than 2.7.9 | 16:48 |
| sambetts | python 2.6 support was deprecated in Juno wasn't it, so do we need the check? | 16:49 |
| * dtantsur finally guessed what UT means (spoiler: not Unreal Tournament) | 16:49 | |
| dtantsur | python 2.7.8 also won't work | 16:49 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: lol | 16:49 |
| dtantsur | so, now to testing: I think you can mock.patch sys module as well | 16:50 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: that assumes knowledge of how the function works though | 16:51 |
| dtantsur | which function you mean? | 16:51 |
| dtantsur | for sys.version_info approach you only mock sys.version_info | 16:51 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: that assumes the code is using sys.version_info to do the check | 16:51 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, right, you probably know what your code is doing :) I'm probably missing something in your question, as it does not look a problem to me | 16:52 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: in my mind unit tests shouldn't assume the code does something one way, it should be a test of if the out come is the expected one, given a certain input, so how the code checks for the version shouldn't matter, whether is via version_info or getattr or platform.version as long as the out come is what was expected it should pass | 16:54 |
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| dtantsur | sambetts, "unit tests shouldn't assume the code does something one way", actually they should - unit tests are white box tests | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | now I see the confusion | 16:55 |
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| dtantsur | unit testing always assumes full knowledge of internals, otherwise mocking does not make much sense - as you correctly spotted | 16:56 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: +1 | 16:56 |
| devananda | gah. vegas. this place smells like stale cigarretes | 16:56 |
| dtantsur | lol | 16:56 |
| dtantsur | morning devananda | 16:57 |
| devananda | g'morning | 16:57 |
| jlvillal | I think unit tests are 'white box' tests. At least how we have done them in Ironic. We know for sure the internal workings of the function we are testing. | 16:57 |
| jlvillal | It doesn't mean we shouldn't also have some 'black box' testing. Which I think is a goal of the functional testing. | 16:57 |
| * jlvillal will hopefully meet with adam_g to discuss the functional testing tomorrow :) | 16:58 | |
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| * jroll throws a pack of cigarettes at devananda, when in rome | 16:59 | |
| NobodyCam | so many meetings | 16:59 |
| NobodyCam | morning devananda | 16:59 |
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| sambetts | dtantsur: today I learned XD that makes more sense | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | :) | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: lets discuss the switch id information here | 17:01 |
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| jroll | lazy_prince: so, I think the creds discussion is an important one - can we leave that up to the mech driver or so we want to standardize it or? | 17:02 |
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| morgabra | Sukhdev: lazy_prince: I'm inclined to suggest leaving it up to the implementing driver | 17:02 |
| morgabra | jroll beat me | 17:02 |
| jroll | guidelines would be cool to have | 17:02 |
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| jroll | like "these should be stored encrypted" | 17:02 |
| morgabra | however, there is lots of value in formalizing something like that... | 17:03 |
| morgabra | as it stands right now, it's pretty much impossible to do any kind of validation about the physical connectivity information you are passing in | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | As an FYI - we implement switch creeds out of neutron for Arista drivers | 17:03 |
| morgabra | like, what happens if you pass in the same port twice? | 17:03 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: file on disk or? | 17:04 |
| Sukhdev | and most of the vendors do it this way - this is left to the vendors | 17:04 |
| Sukhdev | jroll:neither - | 17:04 |
| jroll | so how does it work? | 17:04 |
| Sukhdev | we have a config option, which goes into the switch - the networking groups are paranoid about this information going into the hands of server groups:-) | 17:05 |
| jroll | in the bare metal case, the mech driver needs to log in to switches or hit the switch api | 17:05 |
| jroll | which means you need creds | 17:05 |
| lazy_prince | i am interested and listening.. | 17:05 |
| Sukhdev | hence, the creeds are only available to networking folks - and, they have a config command to specify it | 17:05 |
| jroll | so how does neutron authenticate to the switch? | 17:05 |
| morgabra | jroll: you can add arbitrary config options for mech drivers | 17:06 |
| morgabra | so it's probably just a static config thing | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: we use two step process - | 17:06 |
| lazy_prince | that would mean mech drivers per switch.. i could be worng too.. | 17:06 |
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| Sukhdev | there is one entry point for which the creeds are specified in the .ini file- this is how neutron (drivers know where the information is) | 17:07 |
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| Sukhdev | drivers then use this entry point to get in then the switch creeds are hidden under that entry point | 17:08 |
| jroll | so they run code to get the credentials? | 17:08 |
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| Sukhdev | so, the server group can not see them and can not fiddle with the switches | 17:08 |
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| lazy_prince | that is okay when there is one mech driver per switch.. but here we may have different switches for different nodes being managed by same compute..... | 17:08 |
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| Sukhdev | kinda - when switches are configured to participate in OpenStack management, there is configuration which is used to register these switches with the entry point - | 17:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Update doc "install from packages" section to include Red Hat https://review.openstack.org/186714 | 17:09 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: no, multiple switches can be managed by one driver - | 17:09 |
| jroll | ok, so | 17:10 |
| jroll | we need to allow non-standard things | 17:10 |
| jroll | so "leave it up to the mech driver" | 17:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic: Remove deprecated pxe_deploy_{kernel, ramdisk} https://review.openstack.org/185937 | 17:10 |
| Sukhdev | regardless, I think the creds is a vendor specific issue, and we should leave it for them to deal with | 17:10 |
| jroll | yeah, I can deal with that | 17:11 |
| lazy_prince | agreed.. | 17:11 |
| Sukhdev | cool, so we are in sync on this issue then | 17:11 |
| lazy_prince | for now.. yes.. :) | 17:12 |
| jroll | heh | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: we use very elaborate scheme to deal with this - take a look at our ML2 driver - | 17:13 |
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| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: I have seen other vendors who use very simple scheme | 17:14 |
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| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: depending upon the customers (and deployment scenarios) many customers are very paranoid about creeds going into wrong hands - hence, we do not put them in any file | 17:15 |
| lazy_prince | Sukhdev: I will.. for now, it is time for me to hit the road... will check and get back to you in case of doubts/questions.. | 17:16 |
| lazy_prince | Good night all... | 17:16 |
| Sukhdev | lazy_prince: GN | 17:17 |
| jroll | see ya lazy_prince :) | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | jlvillal, as you work on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-Ironic-Bugs: can we work together to add some nova-ironic bugs stats/listings to http://ironic-bugs.divius.net/ ? | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: Sure. I would need to learn how to do that. | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | jlvillal, source is at https://github.com/divius/ironic-bug-dashboard hosted on my web site (will probably move it to openshift in the future) | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur: I will look at it today. Or tomorrow, a lot of meetings today :( | 17:23 |
| dtantsur | yeah, sure | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | ping me if you need help or pr merged | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Use Cirros for CI testing https://review.openstack.org/187067 | 17:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Add SSL/TLS Support https://review.openstack.org/186843 | 17:44 |
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| * dtantsur made lp:~ironic-bugs bug maintainers for ironic-inspector, hope nobody objects | 17:51 | |
| jroll | I object to any objections! | 17:51 |
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| NobodyCam | great meeting all ... THnak you | 18:01 |
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| Nisha | can we continue on capabilities here... | 18:01 |
| NobodyCam | yes | 18:01 |
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| thiagop | +1 | 18:02 |
| devananda | in -nova, pls | 18:02 |
| devananda | as this hinges on Nova's approval / view of the world | 18:02 |
| Nisha | devananda, i proposed 4 specs for capabilities , 2 in Nova and 2 in ironic... | 18:02 |
| Nisha | but devananda it requires our vote on the approach too | 18:03 |
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| devananda | Nisha: can you summarize the two different approaches and their benefits / drawbacks? | 18:03 |
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| Nisha | nova changes is dependent on ironic and vice versa | 18:03 |
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| thiagop | Nisha: It appears that people are going to continue the discussion in -nova | 18:03 |
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| Nisha | thiagop, agreed but similar changes might be required in ironic too | 18:04 |
| Nisha | for example when we say nova will call ironic API , we need to know what will the ironic API do | 18:05 |
| jroll | well | 18:05 |
| jroll | nova seems opposed to this | 18:05 |
| jroll | if nova won't let it happen, it doesn't matter what we decide for iroinc | 18:05 |
| jroll | so let's focus on nova first | 18:05 |
| Nisha | devananda, the approach i proposed was : 1. convert the capabilities to dictionary. This requires changes in ironic, ironic-client and nova-ironic virt driver | 18:06 |
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| Nisha | This should be able to handle multiple values for a capability key | 18:06 |
| Nisha | the second problem is with the operators | 18:08 |
| wanyen | are we supposed to join nova irc to discuss capabilities now? | 18:08 |
| Nisha | nova just picks up the node based on operators | 18:08 |
| Nisha | these operators actually may not mean nothing for ironic for the act-upon capabilities | 18:09 |
| Nisha | i just proposed one new filter in nova which will filter out the node if it is act-upon capabilities with only few applicable operators | 18:10 |
| devananda | nova objects to having non-structured "pass through to the driver" interface | 18:10 |
| Nisha | for this filter to work we require changes in ironic as the filter will need to call the ironic API to get list of act-upon capabilities | 18:10 |
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| Nisha | devananda, sorry but i dont understand the statement | 18:11 |
| Nisha | the current scheduling ComputeCapability filter will still be called | 18:11 |
| Nisha | with the approach given above | 18:12 |
| Nisha | the new filter is called upon after the ComputeCapability filter | 18:12 |
| Nisha | devananda, i thought it would be clean approach... | 18:13 |
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| dtantsur | pretty late, going now, g'night | 18:15 |
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| wanyen | Nisha, based on my understanding of your spec, ComputeCapabilitiesFilter will call IronicFilter after it selects a node matching all the falvors. The Ironic Filter will then call Ironic API to get a list of node capabilitites supported by the bare-metal node and then only passes the node capabilitites flavors that needs to be act upon. Right? | 18:17 |
| sambetts | Night all | 18:19 |
| devananda | gotta relocate, bbiah | 18:23 |
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| Nisha | wanyen, yes | 18:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Validate capability in properties and instance_info https://review.openstack.org/174785 | 19:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Update iLO documentation for UEFI secure boot https://review.openstack.org/178582 | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: Use Cirros for CI testing https://review.openstack.org/187067 | 19:28 |
| TheJulia | ^^^ For those interested in bifrost, that should cut our CI job time down quite a bit. | 19:29 |
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| Shrews | TheJulia: ooh, nice. does that change the memory requirements for the vm at all? | 19:35 |
| TheJulia | not really. :( I think we could knock the footprint down 500MB, but IPA still needs a good chunk of ram to fire up and run | 19:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed stackforge/ironic-discoverd: Add SSL/TLS Support https://review.openstack.org/186843 | 19:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Weeks proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add pluggable metrics backend for Ironic and IPA https://review.openstack.org/137171 | 20:04 |
| JayF | TheJulia: what were we using for a guest? | 20:05 |
| JayF | OH; bifrost | 20:05 |
| JayF | gotcha | 20:05 |
| TheJulia | Bifrost just uses the coreos image that comes out of the IPA test job | 20:05 |
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| JayF | for an OS image to deploy? | 20:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic: Revert "Add simplegeneric to py34 requirements" https://review.openstack.org/186208 | 20:10 |
| TheJulia | JayF: to deploy an OS image, in the near future cirros since its fast and lightweight :) | 20:13 |
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| jlvillal | Anyone interested in taking a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181985/ Refactor resource_fields.py | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/186931 | 20:45 |
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| mrda | Morning Ironic | 21:26 |
| jlvillal | mrda: Good morning | 21:26 |
| * jlvillal goes off to the post office... | 21:27 | |
| NobodyCam | morning mrda | 21:27 |
| mrda | o/ | 21:27 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: I just addded a second +2 to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168799 .. ipa logging spec. JayF had a +2 a couple revs back. but you had a -1 for sending logs on every heartbeat. would you happen to have any time to take another look? | 21:29 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: lemme see... | 21:31 |
| jroll | ok, so still sending on heartbeats | 21:31 |
| jroll | that seems like a *huge* payload | 21:31 |
| jroll | I'd love to see perf impact of that | 21:31 |
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| NobodyCam | the logs will be sent incrementally | 21:32 |
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| jroll | yeah, still | 21:32 |
| jroll | dmesg over 60 seconds can be large :P | 21:32 |
| NobodyCam | but the first hartbeat could be largeish | 21:32 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 21:32 |
| jroll | yeah | 21:33 |
| jroll | I'm having trouble thinking of better ways, though, idk | 21:33 |
| JayF | how about an explicit API call from the conductor | 21:33 |
| JayF | synchronous | 21:33 |
| NobodyCam | maybe we should get some performance impact data | 21:33 |
| JayF | that just gives all the logs | 21:33 |
| devananda | one thing I thnk we're going to need this cycle | 21:34 |
| devananda | is some db refactoring | 21:34 |
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| devananda | eg, to handle receiving a stream of logs | 21:34 |
| jroll | devananda: these aren't stored in the db | 21:34 |
| devananda | ditto for the consolelogs that have been proposed -- it'd be the same table structure, but a different table | 21:34 |
| devananda | jroll: they should be. no? | 21:34 |
| jroll | devananda: idk. dumping to ironic logs seems fine to me | 21:34 |
| devananda | erm | 21:35 |
| devananda | how is that feasible? | 21:35 |
| jroll | I don't want every agent's dmesg in my db | 21:35 |
| JayF | Why would it be OK to store thousands of nodes' worth of IPA logs into a DB? | 21:35 |
| devananda | imagine I'm doing 100 deploys from 1 conductor. I really don't want all of those agent's logs in my conductor log file | 21:35 |
| jroll | well | 21:35 |
| jroll | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168799/10/specs/liberty/deploy-agent-logging.rst | 21:35 |
| JayF | I certainly don't want them in my DB if it's too much info for a logfile | 21:35 |
| jroll | comment away! | 21:35 |
| JayF | lol | 21:35 |
| jroll | I don't understand why you wouldn't want those in conductor logs | 21:35 |
| devananda | because in the DB, I can shove those into sphinx and elasticsearch them | 21:35 |
| jroll | separate file, maybe | 21:36 |
| jroll | you can do that with conductor logs too | 21:36 |
| jroll | ship to logstash | 21:36 |
| devananda | jroll: separate file ++ | 21:36 |
| jroll | boom, done | 21:36 |
| devananda | because filtering | 21:36 |
| devananda | hmm | 21:36 |
| jroll | grep -v agent-$something conductor.log | 21:36 |
| devananda | they're not INFO logs, and they're not DEBUG logs | 21:36 |
| jroll | :) | 21:36 |
| devananda | what LOG LEVEL would ou use? | 21:36 |
| jroll | you should read the spec | 21:36 |
| jroll | it's there | 21:36 |
| devananda | nope. never gonna read a spec :) | 21:37 |
| devananda | (i'm kidding) | 21:37 |
| jroll | heh | 21:37 |
| jroll | tl;dr agent logs are INFO, dmesg is DEBUG | 21:37 |
| devananda | also, let's move vendor_passthru/lookup into deploy | 21:37 |
| devananda | we all agreed on that at summit - anyone proposed a spec yet? | 21:38 |
| jroll | wait, we have to do work? | 21:38 |
| jroll | I thought we just go to summits and pontificate | 21:38 |
| devananda | exactly | 21:38 |
| devananda | wait, are you saying pontification ISN"T work? | 21:39 |
| NobodyCam | ok gota run out... bbiafh | 21:39 |
| jroll | heh | 21:39 |
| devananda | jroll: so in the REST API Impact section, yo mean the POST will be /v1/driver/agent/vendor_passthru/lookup?logging_enabled=true | 21:41 |
| devananda | and that signals to the driver to look for logs: {...} in the body | 21:42 |
| jroll | devananda: I have no clue, not my spec | 21:42 |
| jroll | devananda: what I would assume is | 21:42 |
| jroll | 1) configure agent_logs_enabled in ironic.conf | 21:42 |
| jroll | 2) return logging_enabled: true to the agent | 21:42 |
| devananda | right, ok | 21:43 |
| devananda | so that makes sense, but this sentence confused me: | 21:43 |
| devananda | The Ironic API's drivers' vendor_passthru/lookup will have a new | 21:43 |
| devananda | logging_enabled attribute. | 21:43 |
| jroll | yeah | 21:43 |
| jroll | agree | 21:43 |
| devananda | so as much as I want to +A this, the wording is poor | 21:44 |
| devananda | the idea is fine | 21:44 |
| jroll | I really don't love full dmesg in a POST body, personally | 21:44 |
| devananda | POST can handle megabytes, if your webserver is configured appropriately | 21:45 |
| devananda | I dont love putting these in the log file | 21:45 |
| devananda | because single threaded | 21:45 |
| jroll | devananda: I understand that but 1) logging will slow down, like you say, and 2) json parsing can be slow in python | 21:47 |
| devananda | yes | 21:47 |
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| jroll | yeah, so I'm wary | 21:47 |
| jroll | idk, posted comments, didn't -1 though | 21:48 |
| jroll | maybe I will | 21:48 |
| jroll | I want to see perf impact section | 21:48 |
| jroll | and clarity around the lookup call | 21:48 |
| devananda | jroll: random: does IPA support HTTPS? | 21:49 |
| devananda | I would assume so, but havne't tried it myself | 21:49 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: ^ I -1'd it | 21:49 |
| jroll | devananda: no, not today :( | 21:49 |
| jroll | well, as a server, no | 21:49 |
| devananda | jroll: blarg | 21:49 |
| devananda | o | 21:49 |
| devananda | oh. should be both directions | 21:49 |
| jroll | right | 21:49 |
| devananda | does it support it as a client at leaset? | 21:49 |
| jroll | "just put apache in front" doesn't work with something like IPA :) | 21:49 |
| jroll | ofc | 21:49 |
| jroll | it's requests | 21:49 |
| devananda | right. but cert validation? | 21:50 |
| jroll | I'd like to put https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/sslutils.py#L69 in front | 21:50 |
| jroll | yep | 21:50 |
| devananda | cool | 21:50 |
| devananda | also cool | 21:50 |
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| jroll | we had an interesting failure case once around unsynced ntp and a cert that was newly issued :P | 21:51 |
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| devananda | heh | 21:51 |
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| JayF | 'interesting' | 21:51 |
| JayF | -.- | 21:51 |
| jroll | hey, it was interesting | 21:51 |
| jroll | you must admit | 21:51 |
| JayF | I mean, I never find incidents interesting. Only horribly. | 21:52 |
| JayF | *horrible | 21:52 |
| jroll | I never said the incident was interesting, only the failure case :P | 21:52 |
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| devananda | jroll: oh. the other concern I have is log file parsing | 21:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost: Use Cirros for CI testing https://review.openstack.org/187067 | 21:54 |
| jroll | what about it. greppability? parsability? | 21:54 |
| devananda | dropping unformatted dmesg output in there is going to screw up any regex filtering we have today based on log line formatting, wont it? | 21:54 |
| jroll | I mean, it will still be formatted the same way | 21:54 |
| devananda | eg, each log line has a header and ends with newline | 21:54 |
| devananda | unless we're escaping newlines in the dmesg output ... | 21:54 |
| devananda | it's going to be awkward | 21:54 |
| JayF | oh that's a good point, actually | 21:54 |
| jroll | I like to think we would split dmesg on new lines and do one dmesg line per log line | 21:54 |
| jroll | but maybe not | 21:54 |
| JayF | because thinks like kernel oopses and panics aren't going to look "right" in the logs | 21:54 |
| devananda | jroll: oh god that would be even worse | 21:55 |
| devananda | jroll: because now I might have two different servers' dmsg getting interleaved | 21:55 |
| jroll | heh | 21:55 |
| devananda | \o/ | 21:55 |
| jroll | grep agent-$node_id | 21:55 |
| jroll | but yeah | 21:55 |
| devananda | I actually read my log files sometimes | 21:55 |
| jroll | your masochism is leaking :) | 21:56 |
| devananda | hehe | 21:56 |
| devananda | gotta step away and go register for this silly thing | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost: WIP: Support for disabling DHCP server configuration https://review.openstack.org/187362 | 22:15 |
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| martini | I don't really know how the specs work, so pardon me if this is a silly question - are there specs for bifrost? Would that just fall under ironic specs, or am I way out in left field? | 23:10 |
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| cinerama | martini: oh hi! so i don't think we have specs or blueprints at present, but TheJulia will know for sure | 23:46 |
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