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| karimb | so say i have this new ironic driver ( for ovirt). how should i handle this code? | 00:13 |
| karimb | open a blueprint in launchpad ? | 00:14 |
| karimb | and create the review for the blueprint and the review for the code ? | 00:14 |
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| rloo | karimb: yes open a blueprint and submit a patch for the spec | 00:20 |
| rloo | karimb: this might help: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/Specs_Process | 00:20 |
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| karimb | rloo, ok cool | 00:24 |
| karimb | thank you | 00:25 |
| rloo | yw karimb. thanks for contributing to ironic! | 00:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent: Fix iso-image-create to work on RedHat distros https://review.openstack.org/199237 | 02:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hua Wang proposed openstack/ironic: Add .idea to .gitignore https://review.openstack.org/201396 | 02:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sinval Vieira Mendes Neto proposed openstack/ironic: Replace common.fileutils with oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/201397 | 02:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Sinval Vieira Mendes Neto proposed openstack/ironic: Replace common.fileutils with oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/201397 | 02:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed stackforge/proliantutils: Add RIS support for updating persistent boot device Added methods:- get_persistent_boot_device() update_persistent_boot() https://review.openstack.org/201420 | 05:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Fixes a testcase related to trusted boot in UEFI boot mode https://review.openstack.org/200398 | 07:20 |
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| dtantsur | morning folks | 08:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: grub2 bootloader support for uefi boot mode https://review.openstack.org/166192 | 08:07 |
| yuikotakada | dtantsur, morning :) | 08:08 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 08:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Secure boot support for pxe_ilo driver https://review.openstack.org/154808 | 08:11 |
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| dtantsur | yuikotakada, could you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199682/ please? | 08:15 |
| yuikotakada | dtantsur, sure, I've ever seen similar one in Ironic Inspector, right? | 08:17 |
| dtantsur | yep | 08:18 |
| yuikotakada | dtantsur, I +2ed :) There is no problem | 08:19 |
| dtantsur | yuikotakada, you can +A it as well ;) | 08:19 |
| yuikotakada | dtantsur, I will fix my patches tomorrow morning (maybe while you're sleeping), so please wait a little | 08:20 |
| yuikotakada | dtantsur, done :) | 08:20 |
| dtantsur | thanks | 08:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Don't repeat requirements in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/199682 | 08:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tan Lin proposed openstack/ironic: Migrate ObjectListBase to subclass from the Oslo one https://review.openstack.org/201017 | 08:53 |
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| Pradeep | Ironic physical baremetal booting is hanging after loading ramdisk image, can any one help over this.. | 09:01 |
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| Pradeep | Trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/d4-ae-52-d2-83-83 Loading /var/lib/tftpboot/43b64854-c8e6-48c5-b20f-281be1796c09/deploy_kernel............... Loading /var/lib/tftpboot/43b64854-c8e6-48c5-b20f-281be1796c09/deploy_ramdisk............ .......................................................................................................................................ready | 09:04 |
| Pradeep | Ironic physical baremetal booting is hanging after loading ramdisk image, can any one help over this.. | 09:04 |
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| Pradeep | Trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/d4-ae-52-d2-83-83 Loading /var/lib/tftpboot/43b64854-c8e6-48c5-b20f-281be1796c09/deploy_kernel............... Loading /var/lib/tftpboot/43b64854-c8e6-48c5-b20f-281be1796c09/deploy_ramdisk............ .......................................................................................................................................ready | 09:29 |
| Pradeep | Ironic physical baremetal booting is hanging after loading ramdisk image, can any one help over this.. | 09:29 |
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| Nisha | dtantsur, hi | 09:41 |
| dtantsur | Nisha, o/ | 09:41 |
| sambetts | Morning all | 09:41 |
| Nisha | inspector plugin understands proxy? | 09:41 |
| dtantsur | Nisha, mmm, not sure. maybe not | 09:44 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, morning | 09:44 |
| dtantsur | Nisha, so it just uses 'request' library, so not sure | 09:44 |
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| Nisha | when it is executing ramdisk-image-create , it stucks at http://paste.openstack.org/show/373886/ | 09:47 |
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| dtantsur | Nisha, that's again probably question for #tripleo, I'm not diskimage-builder guru :( | 10:02 |
| Nisha | :( | 10:02 |
| lucasagomes | Pradeep, hanging or you just can't see the console because it's being redirected? | 10:07 |
| lucasagomes | Pradeep, also please append "debug" in the kernel command line | 10:08 |
| lucasagomes | so you may get more information | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shivanand Tendulker proposed openstack/ironic: Secure boot support for pxe_ilo driver https://review.openstack.org/154808 | 10:19 |
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| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: hi there | 10:27 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, hi there | 10:27 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201043/2/ironicclient/tests/unit/test_filecache.py | 10:27 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: since we need to mock the return value of _get_cache(), we could just fix the mock there | 10:28 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: rather than mocking everywhere an instance of dogpile.cache.region.CacheRegion() is created (by the decorator) | 10:28 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, oh | 10:28 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: do you feel that's better ? | 10:28 |
| lucasagomes | and then just return mock_get_cache.return_value = mock.Mock() ? | 10:28 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: yes | 10:29 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, I don't know, since mock is quick and do like a lazy specc'ing | 10:29 |
| lucasagomes | do you see much advantage on doing that? | 10:29 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: I am not talking w.r.t performance | 10:29 |
| lucasagomes | right, well I wouldn't -1 a patch removing those mocks to the dogpile | 10:30 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: but to avoid mocking other instantiations (if any) of dogpile.cache.region.CacheRegion() | 10:30 |
| lucasagomes | fair enuff yeah | 10:30 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: that's fine. I am fine with this too. I too now don't file like it should be changed now. | 10:31 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: just wanted to convey what I meant :) | 10:31 |
| Pradeep | lucasagomes --- the console is in that state for long time | 10:31 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, gotcha | 10:33 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, thanks for that! | 10:33 |
| rameshg87 | :) | 10:33 |
| openstackgerrit | chenglch proposed openstack/ironic-specs: Add console log support https://review.openstack.org/164586 | 10:33 |
| lucasagomes | Pradeep, right, can you post ur kernel cmdline? Also try to add debug there | 10:33 |
| lucasagomes | see if it shows you more things in the console | 10:33 |
| Pradeep | how can i add debug there? | 10:34 |
| TheJulia | good morning Ironic | 10:35 |
| lucasagomes | The good morning | 10:37 |
| lucasagomes | Pradeep, there's two ways, you can edit the pxe_append_params config option in Ironic | 10:37 |
| lucasagomes | but that only works if you start a new dpeloyment | 10:37 |
| lucasagomes | you can also edit the pxe configuration file manually | 10:37 |
| lucasagomes | see the /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/<mac address> | 10:37 |
| lucasagomes | edit that file and append "debug" to the kernel cmdline there | 10:37 |
| lucasagomes | if you already started the deployment you can edit... * | 10:38 |
| Pradeep | ok lucasagomes | 10:38 |
| Pradeep | label deploy kernel /opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/deploy_kernel append initrd=/opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/deploy_ramdisk selinux=0 disk=cciss/c0d0,sda,hda,vda iscsi_target_iqn=iqn.2008-10.org.openstack:85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10 deployment_id=85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10 deployment_key=NB3544EW4TZZ3ES43DLCLK50B4H9TM12 ironic_a | 10:40 |
| Pradeep | label boot_partition kernel /opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/kernel append initrd=/opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/ramdisk root=UUID=7d33fb1f-2102-4158-9586-dc49e542356f ro text nofb nomodeset vga=normal console=ttyS0 rootfstype=ramfs | 10:40 |
| Pradeep | label deploy kernel /opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/deploy_kernel append initrd=/opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/deploy_ramdisk selinux=0 disk=cciss/c0d0,sda,hda,vda iscsi_target_iqn=iqn.2008-10.org.openstack:85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10 deployment_id=85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10 deployment_key=NB3544EW4TZZ3ES43DLCLK50B4H9TM12 ironic_a | 10:41 |
| Pradeep | sorry, here is the file http://paste.openstack.org/show/374012/ | 10:42 |
| Pradeep | lucasagomes, is this correct kernel /opt/stack/data/ironic/tftpboot/85f0bb21-1d5d-4b6a-bf5a-03eb39d45e10/kernel debug | 10:44 |
| Pradeep | adding the debug to kernel? | 10:44 |
| lucasagomes | it should go in the "append" like | 10:44 |
| lucasagomes | together with the rest of the params | 10:44 |
| lucasagomes | also see "console=ttyS0" this may be redirecting ur console | 10:45 |
| lucasagomes | you can remove it | 10:45 |
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| Pradeep | i have removed the console and added appended debug http://paste.openstack.org/show/374045/ | 10:50 |
| Pradeep | should i launch the instance again | 10:50 |
| lucasagomes | Pradeep, if you just edit the file you can restart the node | 10:52 |
| lucasagomes | and it will try to boot again | 10:52 |
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| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: I am facing one strange issue - need suggestions | 11:04 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196007/ | 11:04 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: one of the test case is failing in ci, but not in my environment | 11:04 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: http://logs.openstack.org/07/196007/8/check/gate-ironic-python27/2460b29/console.html | 11:05 |
| * lucasagomes looks | 11:05 | |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: stranger thing is python34 passes, but python27 fails | 11:05 |
| lucasagomes | ouch | 11:05 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: if it was some code issue, I would have expected both 34 and 27 to fail | 11:05 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, lemme try to run it locally here | 11:06 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: okay, may be just pulling the patch and running ironic.tests.api.v1.test_nodes.TestPut.test_put_raid_configuration_iface_not_supported might suffice | 11:06 |
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| lucasagomes | rameshg87, it fails in my envrioment just like in gate | 11:09 |
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| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: oh | 11:09 |
| lucasagomes | http://paste.openstack.org/show/374088/ | 11:09 |
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| * lucasagomes tries 34 | 11:10 | |
| * rameshg87 checks again | 11:12 | |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, http://paste.openstack.org/show/374089/ | 11:12 |
| lucasagomes | same method diff error | 11:12 |
| lucasagomes | something wrong there, I see the side_effect there as well | 11:12 |
| lucasagomes | you may need to use iter() | 11:12 |
| rameshg87 | oh yeah | 11:13 |
| rameshg87 | that was recently changed, right ? | 11:13 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: but I wonder how py34 went through in gate | 11:14 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: I was kind of confused with that .. | 11:14 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: I will check again .. thanks for confirming :) | 11:15 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, cool also, when you're re-raising the exception you should "raise e" not only "raise" I believe | 11:16 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, commented | 11:17 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: but raise raises back same exception, right ? is there something wrong in that ? | 11:17 |
| lucasagomes | rameshg87, lemme check, looking at other examples after it modifies the object you should raise it | 11:18 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: okay, will check that part | 11:19 |
| rameshg87 | lucasagomes: will check that part later when I relogin | 11:22 |
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| lucasagomes | ram<tab> ack | 11:26 |
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| dtantsur | lucas-hungry, o/ anything preventing you from approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191710/ ? | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenguo Niu proposed openstack/ironic: When boot option is not persisted, set boot on next power on https://review.openstack.org/177642 | 12:40 |
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| lucasagomes | dtantsur, not that I know, JayF ^ any reasons why you didn't +a? | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic: Start using new ENROLL state https://review.openstack.org/194722 | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Add CLEANWAIT state https://review.openstack.org/200152 | 13:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Allow abort for {CLEAN,DEPLOY}WAIT states https://review.openstack.org/201552 | 13:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhenguo Niu proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Filtering nodes by provision state https://review.openstack.org/197012 | 14:05 |
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| NobodyCam | good morning Ironicers | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam, morning | 14:11 |
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| dtantsur | ifarkas, could you please +2/A a pretty tine patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200161/ | 14:15 |
| NobodyCam | morning dtantsur :) | 14:15 |
| ifarkas | dtantsur, yeah | 14:16 |
| ifarkas | morning NobodyCam! | 14:16 |
| NobodyCam | morning ifarkas | 14:16 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 14:16 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: will look right after I get back | 14:17 |
| NobodyCam | brb | 14:17 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam, if you mean inspector patch above, then you'd better have a look at the enroll patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194722/ please :) | 14:18 |
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| ricky1 | folks | 14:28 |
| ricky1 | puppet-bifrost is not a thing, is it? | 14:28 |
| ricky1 | i remember from SpamapS spec ironic/bifrost was being handrolled? | 14:28 |
| ricky1 | asking as i'm writing a basic puppet module to install/configure it, if it doesn't exist should I push to stackforge prior to openstack namespace move? | 14:29 |
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| rcarrillocruz | actually , i think i should ask this on infra as well | 14:29 |
| TheJulia | rcarrillocruz: no, we havent done anything with puppet to achieve the same results | 14:29 |
| dtantsur | rcarrillocruz, do you want to install ironic with puppet? or *use* ironic with puppet? | 14:29 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: perfect question | 14:30 |
| dtantsur | IIUC bifrost does both with ansible, right? | 14:30 |
| TheJulia | it does | 14:30 |
| rcarrillocruz | nah, just a puppet module to install bifrost (checking out from git repo) and configuring the group_vars/all + baremetal.json | 14:30 |
| TheJulia | if your creating your inventory from your secret data in hierra, i guess that would work | 14:31 |
| dtantsur | I would say (and may be completely wrong) that we should aim for bifrost installation to be as easy as puppet installation, so that we don't need an installer for it | 14:31 |
| TheJulia | it would be very re-usable for the enrollment of machines as everyones data will be different | 14:32 |
| dtantsur | ah, hiera. maybe | 14:32 |
| rcarrillocruz | ++ | 14:32 |
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| TheJulia | it is fairly easy as is, the conundrum really has been that we have tooling to also put ansible in place | 14:33 |
| * rcarrillocruz wishes we used ansible for config management in infra as well, but that's a different discussion | 14:33 | |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, morning | 14:33 |
| TheJulia | rcarrillocruz: yes, those are fun diacussions... :) | 14:35 |
| rcarrillocruz | heh | 14:35 |
| TheJulia | rcarrillocruz: but really, we should have a pre-made bikeshed to wheel into the room for those discussions | 14:35 |
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| NobodyCam | morning lucasagomes :) | 14:40 |
| NobodyCam | dtantsur: ahh okay :) | 14:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201338 | 14:47 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201600 | 14:48 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200674 | 14:48 |
| dtantsur | moar requirements \o/ | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Drop openstackclient from requirements https://review.openstack.org/201604 | 14:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201608 | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-ironicclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200903 | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Use released ironic-inspector for functional testing https://review.openstack.org/200161 | 15:00 |
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| dtantsur | had an early start today, going now | 15:11 |
| dtantsur | please someone give his/her blessing for switch to futurist: https://review.openstack.org/191710 :) | 15:12 |
| lucasagomes | folks can I have some eyes at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198021/ ? | 15:12 |
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| NobodyCam | have a good night dtantsur|afk | 15:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ironic-inspector: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201635 | 15:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201608 | 15:47 |
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| * devananda lands patches on stable/kilo | 15:53 | |
| devananda | also, good morning | 15:53 |
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| jroll | morning devananda | 15:54 |
| jroll | and everyone else since I'm not sure I popped my head in today | 15:54 |
| NobodyCam | morning devananda and jroll :) | 15:54 |
| devananda | any spec-cores want to give https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187829/6 another pass before I land it? | 15:54 |
| jroll | heya NobodyCam :) | 15:55 |
| jroll | \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ | 15:55 |
| devananda | jroll: also, i have some open questions on the ml2 spec | 15:55 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, jroll morning | 15:56 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, go ahead | 15:56 |
| jroll | morning lucasagomes | 15:56 |
| jroll | devananda: I'll take a look, thanks | 15:56 |
| devananda | good afternoon, lucasagomes :) | 15:56 |
| devananda | jroll: cheers. i dont think it's anything major, but they're not quite nits either | 15:57 |
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| Nisha | dtantsur|afk, dtantsur|afk, could you remove -2 from https://review.openstack.org/193495 | 15:58 |
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| NobodyCam | brb | 16:00 |
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| devananda | jroll: dtantsur|afk: re versions, releases, and changing to ENROLL as the initial state in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194722/6 | 16:07 |
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| devananda | jroll: dtantsur|afk: I think we should block that patch until we have actually switched to the new release model AND done a release that has only "compatible" changes over the Kilo release, then roll this into the subsequent "major" release | 16:08 |
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| devananda | and possibly bundling any other breaking API changes we have in the works along with it | 16:08 |
| devananda | thoughts? | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs: Update network provider spec https://review.openstack.org/187829 | 16:09 |
| jroll | devananda: that seems fine, I'd like to finish lucasagomes' work around aborting things first I think? | 16:10 |
| devananda | that'll be another API break, right? | 16:11 |
| lucasagomes | I will have to bump the micro version | 16:11 |
| devananda | wait, no. it's a new verb, but doesn't break current clients | 16:11 |
| lucasagomes | yeah it doesn't | 16:11 |
| lucasagomes | I got it working here, adding unittests for it now | 16:12 |
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| devananda | nice | 16:12 |
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| NobodyCam | folks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198021 has two +2's but only a few reviewers, so wanted to see if anyone wanted to have a look before it lands? | 16:16 |
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| krotscheck | Do you guys check patches that your names are not explicitly added to? | 16:20 |
| jroll | devananda: right yeah just a new verb | 16:20 |
| jroll | since some of the *ING changes are in flight | 16:20 |
| jroll | krotscheck: I try to but busybusybusy | 16:21 |
| krotscheck | jroll: Just curious. Trying to get a sense of how to interact with different projects. | 16:21 |
| jroll | krotscheck: if you want someone's specific eyes on it, adding them is helpful. if you just add the whole core team to every patch I'm going to make an effort to ignore it :P | 16:22 |
| krotscheck | jroll: Odd. I add the whole core team because I never know who's going to have the time. | 16:23 |
| krotscheck | jroll: Also, because I don't really know _who_ in the core team is the expert on a given topic. | 16:23 |
| jroll | krotscheck: I'm half joking :) | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | jroll: That comes over well in a text medium :) | 16:27 |
| jroll | krotscheck: :P | 16:29 |
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| krotscheck | jroll: On a more serious note, what's the default path for the ironic output log? | 16:34 |
| jroll | krotscheck: great question | 16:35 |
| * jroll looks | 16:35 | |
| jroll | krotscheck: stdout | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | jroll: Huhn. | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | Well then. | 16:36 |
| krotscheck | That. | 16:36 |
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| krotscheck | Makes documentation harder. | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Allow abort for {CLEAN,DEPLOY}WAIT states https://review.openstack.org/201552 | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/ironic: Add CLEANWAIT state https://review.openstack.org/200152 | 16:39 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, devananda ^ | 16:40 |
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| * TheJulia /win 43 | 16:44 | |
| TheJulia | doh | 16:44 |
| krotscheck | TheJulia: Hey, where does bifrost send the default ironic logging out put to? | 16:48 |
| TheJulia | krotscheck: upstart's favorite location on ubuntu | 16:50 |
| TheJulia | krotscheck: on centos, I expect logging output to go to journald | 16:51 |
| krotscheck | /var/log/upstart then, kk | 16:51 |
| TheJulia | yup yup | 16:52 |
| SpamapS | TheJulia: regarding puppety bifrosty things.. one thing mordred and I were discussing was that while bifrost currently uses localhost, it doesn't have to, and you don't even _need_ to install it anywhere. | 16:53 |
| TheJulia | I think i need more context to that | 16:54 |
| TheJulia | discussion | 16:54 |
| krotscheck | SpamapS: Sounds like ironic becomes an ansible module? | 16:55 |
| krotscheck | And the API goes bye bye? | 16:56 |
| SpamapS | No | 16:56 |
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| * TheJulia may also be suffering form molten brain syndrome | 16:57 | |
| SpamapS | krotscheck: ironic does its thing. Bifrost assembles supporting pieces around Ironic and talks to Ironic via its API | 16:57 |
| SpamapS | TheJulia: so we were thinking about how right now we're building "a baremteal cloud box" and we'd need to ssh to it to run Bifrost deploy/enroll.. | 16:57 |
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| lucasagomes | folks I will call it a day | 16:58 |
| lucasagomes | have a great night everyone! | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | TheJulia: but Ansible makes things easier than that. We could just run Bifrost on our laptops and point it at whatever box. | 16:58 |
| TheJulia | SpamapS: oh yeah! | 16:58 |
| TheJulia | as long as the network connectivity eists and you have the reqs to do the basic bootstrap for IPA, oh yeah | 16:59 |
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| TheJulia | hence why I put in the documentation about running with separate dhcp infrasucture..... | 16:59 |
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| sambetts | Night all | 17:10 |
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| mordred | rcarrillocruz, TheJulia: https://github.com/rcarrillocruz/puppet-bifrost/blob/master/manifests/init.pp#L28-L29 | 17:26 |
| mordred | the latest os_ironic packages are in upstream ansiblenow | 17:26 |
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| TheJulia | rcarrillocruz: i thought we nuked those variables a while back :\ | 17:35 |
| rcarrillocruz | yeah, i did copy-paste from the vars file to the puppet manifest and just adapted to puppet syntax | 17:38 |
| rcarrillocruz | TheJulia: what should be the right URLs then? | 17:38 |
| TheJulia | you shouldnt need those vars anymore | 17:38 |
| rcarrillocruz | ah ok | 17:39 |
| rcarrillocruz | then i will just delete them | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | k | 17:39 |
| rcarrillocruz | matter of secs, thx | 17:39 |
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| NobodyCam | night sambetts | 17:40 |
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| NobodyCam | mornign mordred | 17:40 |
| NobodyCam | morning SpamapS | 17:40 |
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| rcarrillocruz | done | 17:40 |
| NobodyCam | morning rcarrillocruz :) | 17:40 |
| rcarrillocruz | hiya NobodyCam | 17:41 |
| rcarrillocruz | good to see you folks in gozer land now :D | 17:41 |
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| rcarrillocruz | saw a couple changes here and there | 17:41 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ricardo Carrillo Cruz proposed openstack/bifrost: Remove unused URLs https://review.openstack.org/201686 | 17:48 |
| rcarrillocruz | TheJulia: corresponding change for bifrost code base ^ | 17:49 |
| rcarrillocruz | zomg, my very first bifrost change | 17:51 |
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| rcarrillocruz | bbl, out for a walk | 17:51 |
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| NobodyCam | rcarrillocruz: w00t | 18:05 |
| TheJulia | now im wondering if i habe a branch on a machine that i forgot to push... | 18:09 |
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| jroll | anyone know where I can get a ubuntu image that works with ironic+devstack? | 20:56 |
| jroll | TheJulia: maybe? | 20:56 |
| NobodyCam | prebuilt? | 20:58 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: yeah | 20:59 |
| jroll | or a dib line is fine I guess | 20:59 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda: Ping | 21:01 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: deploy K&r or ?? | 21:06 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: whole disk image | 21:06 |
| jroll | I'm going to try the cloud images ubuntu ships | 21:06 |
| NobodyCam | disk-image-create -a amd64 -o "{{http_boot_folder}}/{{deploy_image_filename}}" -t qcow2 "{{ | 21:07 |
| NobodyCam | dib_os_element}}" vm serial-console simple-init "{{ extra_dib_elements}}" | 21:08 |
| jroll | yessss | 21:08 |
| jroll | ty sir | 21:08 |
| NobodyCam | its the vm element that makes whole disk | 21:08 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: pong | 21:08 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: what's dib_os_element? ubuntu? | 21:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | speaking of which, is it possible to make custom partitioning with dib? | 21:09 |
| rcarrillocruz | vm element puts verything on / | 21:09 |
| NobodyCam | rcarrillocruz: been awhile for me but last I looked you could not! | 21:09 |
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| devananda | rcarrillocruz: afaik, no. | 21:10 |
| NobodyCam | but maybe better asked in TripleO channel | 21:10 |
| rcarrillocruz | k, then i guess that's left for config management layer | 21:10 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: have you worked out the agenda for Ironic MId-Cycle | 21:10 |
| devananda | nope | 21:10 |
| NobodyCam | Sukhdev: fix (allthethings) | 21:10 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 21:10 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: starting t osketch things here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-liberty-midcycle | 21:10 |
| NobodyCam | *ducks* | 21:10 |
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| Sukhdev | we are trying to figure out if it makes sense for us to go there or not - | 21:11 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: we have preliminary approval to send unto two people - but, trying to figure out | 21:11 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: if it is worthwhile or not? | 21:12 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: if they're writing ironic code, it's certainly useful | 21:12 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: it will be mainly the ML2/Neutron side | 21:12 |
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| jroll | yeah, I'll defer to devananda, I'm not sure | 21:13 |
| Sukhdev | and perhaps some tests for our Ironic/neutron integration effort | 21:13 |
| Sukhdev | devananda, jroll : if we can have agenda where we can utilize the time effectively - we have approval for unto two people | 21:14 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: if they are willing to write an ml2 mech that can be used for integration tests, it might be useful | 21:15 |
| jroll | otherwise I don't think Ironic folks can help to speed up arista ml2 development :P | 21:15 |
| devananda | do we need a generic ML2 drie,r or would one specific to some hardware suffice? | 21:19 |
| devananda | also 0- afk for 20 minutes | 21:19 |
| Sukhdev | jroll devananda: I was thinking when we are there, we can brain storm and implement what ever makes sense to cover this integration testing - | 21:22 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: sure | 21:22 |
| NobodyCam | uggh tests: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166386 | 21:22 |
| Sukhdev | jroll devananda : for example, if we used ovs mech driver (or enhanced it) how do we test the switch-id stuff - on the other hand if we use HW based mech driver | 21:23 |
| Sukhdev | how to dedicate HW equipment to test, etc.. | 21:23 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I'd rather use something virtual... | 21:24 |
| jroll | we could for example have two virtual switches with different IDs | 21:24 |
| jroll | we don't need to necessarily simulate lldp | 21:24 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: I hear you and am with you, but, trying wrap my arms around the problem and figuring out what is the best way to go about it - perhaps we can brainstorm all of this | 21:24 |
| jroll | sure | 21:25 |
| Sukhdev | when we are all present in a room with white board | 21:25 |
| jroll | right | 21:25 |
| jroll | so it sounds like it may be useful :) | 21:25 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: yes- as long as we can see it will be useful for us to be present there then we can make the bookings | 21:27 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: we'll be spending some time working on this, yes | 21:27 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: OK - I am going proceed with the plan then | 21:28 |
| Sukhdev | will discuss with the management to get a final approval and will update the etherpad accordingly | 21:28 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: we obviously can't spend 100% of time on this while we're there, but we can spend some | 21:28 |
| jroll | be sure to rsvp on eventbrite too | 21:29 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: understood | 21:29 |
| Sukhdev | jroll: BTW, I noticed the hotels are very expensive there - any preferred or recommendations? | 21:29 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: right - so if we have 2 folks there working on just this, jroll and myself can make sure we brainstorm and facilitate what they're doing while juggling other things | 21:30 |
| devananda | BadCub: any hotel recommendations for seattle ^ ? | 21:30 |
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| jroll | devananda: +1 | 21:31 |
| jroll | Sukhdev: I used airbnb :) | 21:31 |
| jroll | which btw worked out *awesome* | 21:31 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll: I guess you are more daring and adventrous than me :-) | 21:32 |
| devananda | jroll, Sukhdev: we'll have a couple folks from HP cloud india team who are also deeply familiar with the mechanism driver - i'll send you an intro as I dont see them in IRC right now | 21:32 |
| jroll | cool | 21:33 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: I think you are referring to vivek - he usually attends our meetings | 21:33 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: nope. i'm referring to divakar | 21:34 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: Oh I see - do not know him | 21:34 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: yes, we can use more ML2 expertise - | 21:34 |
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| SplasPood | Folks, I was wondering if you could point me towards some of the ways people have handled (if any) config drives for windows instances on bare metal | 22:07 |
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| devananda | SplasPood: eeeh. i haven't seen that yet | 22:09 |
| TheJulia | so, I have seen a tool, just dont remember where :( | 22:09 |
| NobodyCam | SplasPood: I haven't done any windows testing | 22:09 |
| SplasPood | We use cloudbase-init currently on the virtual side of things | 22:09 |
| SplasPood | it looks like it would read from a local vfat or 'raw' partition (at quick glance) | 22:09 |
| devananda | SplasPood: so if you've got cloudinit working, then I would think it's just a matter of creating the partition | 22:10 |
| SplasPood | but my googling hasn't turned up much o fanything about anyone actually doing this | 22:10 |
| devananda | IPA can do that | 22:10 |
| SplasPood | I'm digging into the IPA code now | 22:10 |
| SplasPood | I see it'll make an ext2 | 22:10 |
| devananda | but it would be ext2 or ext3, i think, not .. | 22:10 |
| devananda | yea | 22:10 |
| SplasPood | I could of course modify it | 22:10 |
| devananda | exactly | 22:10 |
| SplasPood | I was curious if anyone had made plans in this area | 22:10 |
| devananda | jroll: I suspect an option to IPA to change the type of partition used for configdrive would be welcomed | 22:11 |
| jroll | SplasPood: yeah, cloudbase-init is the thing to use | 22:11 |
| devananda | :) | 22:11 |
| jroll | also it's iso | 22:11 |
| jroll | oh no you're right | 22:11 |
| SplasPood | jroll: it'll do that too | 22:11 |
| SplasPood | jroll: thats how we roll on the virtual side of things | 22:11 |
| alexpilotti | SplasPood: we support vfat and iso in cloudbase-init | 22:11 |
| jroll | \o/ | 22:12 |
| jroll | can a disk partition be iso? | 22:12 |
| NobodyCam | alexpilotti: oh cool is that actually documentated somewhere ? | 22:12 |
| alexpilotti | NobodyCam: there’s https://github.com/stackforge/cloudbase-init/blob/master/README.rst and an upcoming Sphix (readthedocs) documentation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188903/ | 22:15 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: we are testing cloudbase-init too. Do you have an easy way to help us test patches locally? So far, we install upstream cloudbase-init using the .msi but have to install our own version on top of it to test our patches. and tbh, it's a real pain. | 22:15 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: we have a CI tool called Argus: https://github.com/cloudbase/cloudbase-init-ci | 22:16 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: if by test you mean some tempest like tests | 22:17 |
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| alexpilotti | mgagne: what type of patches are you adding? some features that you plan to upstream or internal stuff? | 22:18 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: we are rebuilding the windows image from scratch (.iso) using Oz and installs cloudabse-init with login script. | 22:18 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: both. | 22:18 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: instead of Oz we ended up building our own tools: https://github.com/cloudbase/windows-openstack-imaging-tools | 22:19 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: we tried to upstream stuff a couple of months ago but to be honest, the process was a pain and time was lacking to keep up with rebase, tests, etc. | 22:19 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: yea, we use Oz because it supports all OS we offer so there is no need to learn a new tool for each OS. | 22:19 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: makes sense! | 22:19 |
| mgagne | but if it makes image building process take less than 3 hours (due to windows update) I'm open to anything | 22:20 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: mgagne: about upstream, I dont recall seeing patches on gerrit. Did you send them there? | 22:20 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: it wasn't on gerrit back then | 22:20 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: was still on github | 22:20 |
| alexpilotti | ohhh yeah I do remember! Possibly something for static networking? | 22:21 |
| mgagne | yea | 22:21 |
| mgagne | https://github.com/cloudbase/cloudbase-init/pull/42 | 22:21 |
| alexpilotti | that was an unfortunate patch, sorry about that, as we were in a moment in which we were rethinking the entire networking configuration | 22:22 |
| mgagne | by the time we got interest into our PR, code changed too much and our time got allocated to other projects so yea. | 22:22 |
| jroll | SplasPood: so anyway, I'm interested in windows things, if you submit patches I'd love to review them, otherwise I know we'll be looking at it down the road some | 22:22 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: we are looking into supporting the latest network info format | 22:22 |
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| alexpilotti | now the team is way bigger, we moved to gerrit and things move way faster | 22:22 |
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| alexpilotti | jroll SplasPood: we’re in teh process of starting testing Ironic with Windows images, if you guys are interested, I’d be happy to do some work together | 22:23 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: so I'm interested in the medium term, I don't really have time to work on it now, but down the road I would | 22:24 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: “info” format is the new json based one? | 22:24 |
| alexpilotti | jroll: we got them working some time ago, but we need to rebase and resume the work on master | 22:25 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: right on. I think the main thing is the configdrive stuff | 22:25 |
| jroll | ironic can lay down a full disk image no problem | 22:25 |
| SplasPood | yea | 22:25 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: I see your name on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200521 ... I just gave it it's second +2 gota quick sec to take a look. | 22:26 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: yea https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/approved/metadata-service-network-info.rst | 22:26 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: sure, sec | 22:26 |
| NobodyCam | :) Ty jroll :) | 22:26 |
| TheJulia | if you feed ironic a pre-built config drive, i think it will just write out the bytes as they are supplied, at least ipa will if memory serves. | 22:26 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: +A, woo | 22:27 |
| jroll | TheJulia: the problem right now is that it writes to an ext2 partition :P | 22:27 |
| NobodyCam | :) w00t | 22:28 |
| TheJulia | well, if it comes from nova i think it does | 22:28 |
| jroll | no, always | 22:28 |
| TheJulia | and an ext2 partition label | 22:28 |
| jroll | TheJulia: https://github.com/openstack/ironic-python-agent/blob/master/ironic_python_agent/shell/copy_configdrive_to_disk.sh#L62 | 22:28 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: I was looking at this since a while. To get things working for the time being nova now adds at least the MAC address to the template, but this is definitely the way to go | 22:28 |
| jroll | TheJulia: nova just sends an iso | 22:28 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: the code for that spec landed on nova master :) | 22:28 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: yes, the part where you need to find the corresponding nic | 22:29 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: so far, it has been based on luck and aligned stars | 22:29 |
| alexpilotti | jroll: sorry, which one? | 22:29 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: network info json | 22:29 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: the network json stuff | 22:29 |
| TheJulia | jroll: for some reason i thought nova sent ext2, but in any event thats just the mbr partition type label :) | 22:30 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: code is now in master, though not for bonding/vlan yet | 22:30 |
| alexpilotti | cool, I’m looking at the BP and it’s still saying under review | 22:30 |
| mgagne | jroll: how many months before cloudinit supports it? :D | 22:30 |
| alexpilotti | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/metadata-service-network-info | 22:30 |
| TheJulia | regarding network info, any thoughts about identifying interfaces based on their MAC addresses? | 22:30 |
| jroll | mgagne: hah | 22:30 |
| TheJulia | it is what glean does, and seems to be fairly sensib | 22:30 |
| TheJulia | e | 22:30 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: yeah I don't trust launchpad status :P | 22:30 |
| SplasPood | TheJulia: yea, just noticing the same thing | 22:31 |
| SplasPood | TheJulia: it's just a partition with an iso spewed into it | 22:31 |
| BadCub | Sukhdev: and devananda The HOliday Inn Express maybe? | 22:31 |
| jroll | TheJulia: I'm not sure what you mean? | 22:31 |
| TheJulia | jroll: what SplasPood is saying :) | 22:31 |
| SplasPood | jroll: in https://github.com/openstack/ironic-python-agent/blob/master/ironic_python_agent/shell/copy_configdrive_to_disk.sh#L62 | 22:32 |
| alexpilotti | jroll mgagne TheJulia: I got this patch merged in Nova in Kilo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139863/ | 22:32 |
| SplasPood | jroll: that 'ext2' bit is reasonably meaningless | 22:32 |
| mgagne | yep I saw that one =) | 22:32 |
| SplasPood | jroll: down below it then uses dd to spew an iso onto the partition it created in line 62 | 22:32 |
| alexpilotti | the idea is to pass the mac address in the template and cloudbase-init uses it to do “less euristic” matching :-) | 22:32 |
| SplasPood | jroll: so if cloudbase-init will read an iso off a raw partition under windows, we should be golden... | 22:33 |
| jroll | TheJulia: SplasPood: ah, right. no idea how windows plays with that, maybe it just works :) | 22:33 |
| jroll | ok | 22:33 |
| SplasPood | windows itself does not seem to touch it | 22:33 |
| alexpilotti | SplasPood: it already does that | 22:33 |
| SplasPood | it sees the parition of course, but.. | 22:33 |
| alexpilotti | SplasPood: we do some magic for raw partitions, as you said windows ignores them | 22:33 |
| jroll | maybe it needs a different type of label? | 22:33 |
| jroll | disclaimer, I have no idea how filesystems work | 22:34 |
| jroll | :P | 22:34 |
| SplasPood | alexpilotti: yea, I need to look at the cloudbase code again with this new understanding of what ipa does | 22:34 |
| TheJulia | alexpilotti: my focus is more in a standalone context, but good to know :) | 22:34 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: argus installs the latest cloudbase-init or is there a way to test a particular patch? | 22:34 |
| alexpilotti | SplasPood: would you mind if we take this offline as well and follow up via email? I’m interstested in your finding for Ironic support | 22:34 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: there’s a way to specify a patch | 22:35 |
| mgagne | alexpilotti: go on :D | 22:35 |
| TheJulia | jroll: we likely do need a different label, just dont run windows these days. *looks at the windows infosec person to her left who is i terested in Ironic and grins* | 22:36 |
| jroll | hehehe | 22:36 |
| jroll | TheJulia: I'd love to find one that works on windows and linux | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs: Update the new state machine spec with CLEANWAIT https://review.openstack.org/200521 | 22:36 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne: can you send me an email? I’d like to add cpopa, which is leading the Argus work | 22:36 |
| TheJulia | jroll: im thinking partitioning stuff with whole disk images a lot at the moment, just errtoomanyinterrupts to actually spend a consistent block of time on it | 22:37 |
| TheJulia | we should likely diacuss this at the midcycle as well | 22:37 |
| TheJulia | diacuss | 22:37 |
| TheJulia | cannot type on tablet | 22:38 |
| jroll | TheJulia: not sure what you mean by partitioning stuff with whole disk images | 22:38 |
| mgagne | jroll: disk image without partition table? | 22:38 |
| TheJulia | jroll: like possinly adding a facility into diskimage-builder to convert partitions to gpt | 22:39 |
| jroll | mmm | 22:39 |
| mgagne | jroll: there was a long thread/review about how ironic should be able to detect such images/disks | 22:39 |
| mgagne | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97150/ | 22:39 |
| mgagne | Whole Disk Image Support | 22:39 |
| SplasPood | jroll: like if you took a partition, sucked the contents off into an image | 22:40 |
| SplasPood | you'd have an image without a table, just the contents | 22:40 |
| alexpilotti | mgagne TheJulia: added and prioritized a “json thing” card for cloudbase-init | 22:41 |
| jroll | gotcha | 22:41 |
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| alexpilotti | I set a deadline for early August | 22:41 |
| mgagne | that's awesome news | 22:42 |
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| TheJulia | jroll: do you have the link handy to the network_info.json revs for nova that you can pass alexpilotti ? | 22:42 |
| alexpilotti | TheJulia: I looked at the first merged reviewes from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/metadata-service-network-info | 22:43 |
| jroll | they should be in that blueprint | 22:43 |
| TheJulia | awesome | 22:43 |
| TheJulia | cool, everyone in sync \o/ | 22:43 |
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| alexpilotti | that bp was around since a long time, glad to see it merging finally :-) | 22:43 |
| mgagne | I would base my work on the actual code tbh, I found the spec to be outdated | 22:43 |
| alexpilotti | any beta testing volunteers for when we get the code released? :-) | 22:44 |
| mgagne | sure | 22:44 |
| jroll | alexpilotti: I'm happy to volunteer, especially if you support bonding and vlans :) | 22:44 |
| JoshNang | heh me too. network json was by far my oldest patch sitting around | 22:44 |
| TheJulia | alexpilotti: maybe... i might have a... vict^Wvolunteer | 22:44 |
| mgagne | jroll: haha | 22:45 |
| TheJulia | valkyrja: ^^^^ | 22:45 |
| alexpilotti | wow overwhelming reaction! :-) | 22:45 |
| mgagne | and additional routes! (maybe it supports already, haven't look in a long time) | 22:46 |
| alexpilotti | would you guys mind sending me your emails in a private message to start the thread? | 22:46 |
| alexpilotti | myself, cpopa and the rest of the cloudbase-init team are on EEST, so it might be more efficient than IRC | 22:47 |
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| jroll | alexpilotti: jim@jimrollenhagen.com | 22:47 |
| jroll | it's in a bunch of commits, no need for PM :P | 22:48 |
| TheJulia | alexpilotti: juliaashleykreger@gmail.com | 22:48 |
| alexpilotti | perfect thanks, going to spa.. I mean send an update ASAP | 22:49 |
| jroll | heh | 22:52 |
| NobodyCam | alexpilotti: a Spa day sounds like fun :) | 22:53 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: I think he cut himself off there, but I'm sure you can relate to what he meant :P | 22:53 |
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| NobodyCam | heeheh :) | 22:53 |
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| alexpilotti | send the first “spa” email :-) | 22:56 |
| NobodyCam | :p | 22:56 |
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| TheJulia | it is clearly a project name ;) | 22:57 |
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